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ZoomInfo Technologies Inc. — Call Transcript 2026
May 11, 2026
Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the ZoomInfo First Quarter 2026 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jeremiah Sisitsky, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thanks, Josh. Welcome to ZoomInfo's financial results conference call for the first quarter of 2026. With me on the call today are Henry Schuck, Founder and CEO of ZoomInfo, and Graham O'Brien, our Chief Financial Officer. During this call, any forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of U.S. securities laws. 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A reconciliation can be found in the financial results press release or in the slides posted to our IR website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Henry. Thank you, Jerry. Welcome everyone. We started 2026 by delivering revenue and adjusted operating income above the high end of our Q1 guidance. Revenue for the first quarter was $310 million, up 1.5% year-over-year, and adjusted operating income margin was 35%, up more than two points year-over-year. Our non-seat-based operations and Data as a Service offerings, one of the most profitable parts of the business and almost exclusively upmarket, again grew more than 20% year-over-year in the quarter and now makes up just under 20% of our business. While we exceeded our guidance in Q1, as macro conditions worsened at the end of the quarter, we experienced a regression in our downmarket and upmarket growth trajectories. In the closing days of March and into April, we saw a trend of AI and agentic confusion in our customer conversations. What can be built versus bought, what vendor or internal team delivers what, and where the differentiation really lives. This led to a pause in purchasing decisions, and our software customers were particularly affected, as many are facing a confusing purchasing landscape compounded by the threat of their own growth disruption, creating a circular headwind in our space. As a result, we're revising our full year guidance down in conjunction with significant cost reductions that we believe will position us with structurally higher operating margins and create a faster path back to durable growth. This was hard because of the impact on a large number of our teammates, many with long tenures here, who did good work to get us to this point. Change is necessary and a positive decision for the future of ZoomInfo. We made these changes with an eye on the opportunity for us to expand consumption of our data with the proliferation of AI, an opportunity we believe to be potentially larger than anything we've seen in the first 20 years of operating the business. AI has structurally changed how software is built, bought, and used. LLMs have given go-to-market teams a simpler interface to work with data and build custom revenue workflows without heavy technical support. These interfaces will increase across all of software, and as they do, our traditional seats tied to application model will come under pressure, while at the same time our opportunity to tie into the growth slipstream of go-to-market work that LLMs and coding agents enable expands through our data offerings. Our strategy is to make ZoomInfo's go-to-market data ubiquitous, available wherever go-to-market work gets done, including ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity, Microsoft Copilot, Google Gemini, and internally built applications. With an increasingly headless approach to software, these workflows become materially more valuable when powered by our data and insights. Confusion around what AI can do and cannot do, and where our data critically plugs in, is temporary, and combined with pockets of overhang in our seats-based pricing, may create a near-term net headwind in our business. The long-term tailwind, as AI agents and interfaces continue to grow exponentially, is to ensure our high-quality go-to-market data plugs in across those growing surface areas. The promise of that future upside is evident in our operations business and in the value our largest customers continue to assign to their investments with ZoomInfo. ZoomInfo understands complex Global 2000 account hierarchies, curates proprietary contact data, operates a privacy-first identity graph, enriches 5.5 billion data attributes, and processes 1.05 trillion intent signals each month. Each raw data point needs to be cleansed, normalized, and transformed into go-to-market ready output every day. AI-driven or not, go-to-market organizations need this data infrastructure from ZoomInfo. Capturing this shift requires us to sell and operate differently. Our actions this morning across our employee base restructure ZoomInfo to operate more efficiently, generate stronger cash flow, and reposition our data assets, APIs, and MCPs as a larger, more durable part of the business. Our operations business shows the model we believe the market is moving towards, non-seat-based, data-led, upmarket, high retention, and highly defensible. Our goal is to make more of ZoomInfo transact and grow that way. As part of that evolution, we're leading with data. Beginning in Q3, customers will have the flexibility to convert historical per-seat spend into consumption across ZoomInfo data, insights, applications, and agents. This will be a more formal effort in matching the pricing and value delivery to the best customer behaviors and outcomes. We're expanding where customers can access and pay for ZoomInfo data, including ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Copilot, and internally built applications. We are shifting investment from front-end application development toward data, AI-enabled engineering, product-led growth, LLM interfaces, and higher-margin customer segments. I want to briefly explain the durability of our data asset. ZoomInfo's moat is not a single data set. It is a layered system, proprietary B2B data, contributory network inputs, public and partner-sourced intelligence, real-time business signals, entity resolution, a privacy-first identity graph, governance infrastructure, and activation workflows. At the foundation is ZoomInfo's intelligence layer, billions of data points with more than 140 million company entity records, 580 million+ IP to organization pairing, more than 500 million professional profiles, and data including intent, hierarchy, location, financial information, personnel moves, technology usage, funding details, organizational charts, news, and other commercial signals. The value is not just collecting this data, it is resolving it. Company names change, M&A happens, people change roles, titles vary, subsidiaries roll into parents, and the same person can appear differently across dozens of sources. ZoomInfo resolves that noise into a living, governed, commercially useful graph that customers can activate in their workflows. The next layer is our signal and context data, identifying who's in market and why. Foundation models are incredible at reasoning, writing, summarizing, and automating, but they do not inherently know which companies are real targets, which contacts are current, which buying signals are fresh, which account hierarchies matter, which technologies are installed, which prospects are in market, or which internal CRM patterns predict conversion. GTM AI becomes useful only when the model is grounded in accurate, permissioned, current, entity-resolved business context. Our signal and context layer is built around our contributory network and proprietary identity graph, both unique, non-publicly available data assets that create real value for go-to-market. The final layer is trust, governance, accuracy, privacy, and compliance. We collect, verify, and publish high-quality, ethically sourced business information with a privacy program built around global privacy laws like the CCPA, PIPEDA, and GDPR. Our notice and choice program provides notification when professionals' profiles first appear in the platform, offers multiple opt-out methods, honors removal requests, and takes steps to prevent removed profiles from being re-added. Our governance framework aligns with major regulatory regimes. We maintain the industry's most robust set of privacy, security, and compliance certifications. As GTM work becomes increasingly agentic, every AI seller, marketer, rev ops workflow, and customer growth motion will need a trusted intelligence layer that tells it who to target, why now, what changed, and what to do next. Our customers, industry analysts, and partners are validating this. Customers ranked us number one in 142 G2 Spring 2026 reports across sales intelligence, buyer intent data, and lead capture. Forrester's recent Wave for marketing and sales data providers called ZoomInfo, quote, "Entrenched as the default data provider for B2B sales, setting a technology standard for data collection and identity resolution." In Q1, Salesforce released its prospecting agent with ZoomInfo as the 1st and primary external data provider. Our contact, company, intent, and scoops data powers recommendations across Salesforce's 150,000-plus customer base. HubSpot also shipped its prospecting agent with a native ZoomInfo integration. When the two largest CRM platforms choose ZoomInfo to power AI prospecting agents, it reinforces the durability and relevance of our data asset. We also launched connectors for ChatGPT, Claude, Microsoft Copilot, and Perplexity, and are advancing our Google Gemini integration. Data integrations have doubled year-over-year, and MCP connections are growing organically without dedicated sales or marketing. We expanded Go-to-Market Studio trials to more than a quarter of existing customers, helping customers build automated workflows triggered by ZoomInfo signals. Going forward, our application layers will serve as engines for data engagement and consumption rather than standalone application seat products. As customers renew in the back half of the year, we're introducing more flexible pricing and packaging built around data access and usage. This reduces reliance on platform fees and per-seat charges, lowers the overhang from seat compression, and better aligns monetization with customer value. We expect most customers to transition at similar price points, with some moving lower and some higher. While this may create a near-term revenue headwind, it gives us a cleaner model and a better opportunity to grow as customers expand their use of ZoomInfo data. Turning to customer wins, in Q1, we signed deals with Sierra, Lyft, and Wyndham Hotels and Resorts. We also closed a strategic win with a unicorn cloud software company serving MSPs, displacing the incumbent and beating more than half a dozen alternatives, including an internally developed AI tool to become its core data and enrichment platform across Go-to-Market Studio and Workspace. An AI-native security and compliance platform also expanded across Studio, Copilot, and DaaS in a multiyear seven-figure TCV transaction to power its go-to-market motion. We continue to be opportunistic with the $1 billion incremental share repurchase authorization announced last quarter. We're confident in our ability to generate strong cash flow and operate the business efficiently while we execute this strategic shift. We remain committed to returning capital to shareholders in the most value-accretive way possible while ensuring we maintain long-term flexibility. With that, I'll turn the call over to Graham. Thanks, Henry. Q1 GAAP revenue was $310 million, up 1.5% year-over-year, adjusted operating income was $110 million, a margin of 35%, with both revenue and AOI coming in above the high end of the guidance ranges we provided. Unlevered free cash flow was $120 million, with $21 million in interest paid in cash during the quarter. In a seasonally slower quarter, upmarket ACV grew 5% year-over-year, a step down from 6% year-over-year growth in the fourth quarter, an improvement from 3% upmarket ACV growth in the year-ago period. Downmarket ACV declined 11% year-over-year in Q1 as compared to a decline of 10% in the fourth quarter and in the year-ago period. Upmarket is now 75% of our business. Customers with greater than $100,000 in ACV increased by 32 year-over-year, while decreasing 21 sequentially, and ACV from that cohort increased 10% year-over-year. As Henry highlighted, Operations had another strong quarter, with ACV growth greater than 20% year-over-year. Net revenue retention was 90% in Q1, the third quarter in a row of 90% net revenue retention. Overall, it was a solid quarter. We saw a shift in buyer behavior exiting the quarter and into Q2. Gross retention held in well overall. Customers in our software vertical experienced elevated rates of down-sell and churn relative to the improving trends we had seen in 2025. As we moved through March, we saw more customer confusion in the marketplace around what AI can and cannot do and increased macroeconomic uncertainty. With the improving trends we had seen in 2025 starting to moderate, it became clear that our growth progression was no longer on schedule and that now is the right moment to be proactive and accelerate the timeline of our strategic initiatives. We believe we can further rightsize the downmarket business, shift to a better-suited pricing model for our customers while reducing the potential overhang from further seat compression. As we consolidate global operations while largely protecting profitability in the process. Despite the near-term revenue impact, we can return to healthier growth levels sooner than a status quo approach would deliver. As a result, we are now guiding to FY 2026 revenue in the range of $1.185 billion-$1.205 billion. This is a proactive and prudent measure in a period of significant transition. While our initial guidance for the year did not embed upside for new product initiatives, it also did not anticipate the environment getting worse. Our updated guidance adds some incremental top-line conservatism to account for a fluctuating macroeconomic environment, as well as the potential for near-term headwinds as we execute against our strategic initiatives. We make this adjustment to our full year guidance, which we believe will help set up a new foundation over the next 12-18 months that we can ultimately begin to grow from, while at the same time committing to improved profitability outcomes. We are now guiding to full-year AOI of $437 million-$447 million, and an AOI margin of 37% at the midpoint of guidance, up 130 basis points year-over-year and an improvement of 30 basis points as compared to our prior full-year guidance. As we look to operate more efficiently with a long-term focus on data and consumption, the changes announced today impact 20% of our employees or 600 team members, including closing our facilities in Israel. Israel has been an important part of our organization. While these were all difficult decisions, they reflect our commitment to operating the business in the most efficient and strategically focused way possible. Some of the roles impacted will be hired in other regions, and some of these roles will not be replaced as we operate with a leaner, more focused organization. Across every team at ZoomInfo, we're doing more with less. With over 85% of employees actively using our internal AI operating system, AI-bolstered work is now the rule, not the exception. Whether it's shipping more code per engineer, multiples more, with fewer bugs in R&D, building custom apps in finance that replace manual processes and external spend, or building intelligent campaigns on demand in sales and marketing, AI is unlocking productivity at an unprecedented pace. As I noted last quarter, seat-based pricing contribution mix peaked in 2022, and we have progressively decreased that contribution every year since then. We expect to accelerate this transition further. Approximately one-third of our ACV is not tied to seats, and our goal is to shift that closer to 50/50 in the next 18-24 months. We plan to roll out a hybrid pricing model later in Q3 that pairs a low annual platform fee with pre-purchase credits rather than our traditional seat-based packages. The consumption portion will be similar to how we account for ZoomInfo Operations and DaaS, selling packages of data credits to customers that will be consumed over time across any platform and counted as ACV. This is the next step in the evolution away from seat-based pricing as we build on the positive momentum from the expansion of enterprise license agreements across our largest customers. There are two long-term benefits here related to net revenue retention. Less down-sell pressure coming from seat compression, while at the same time data consumption trends increase over time, generating upsell opportunity leading to improved NRR outcomes. This shift to consumption introduces some variability in revenue recognition, driven by the timing of credit consumption relative to credit allowances. This dynamic is reflected in our revised revenue guidance. As part of this evolution, we are eliminating more down-market sales resources, shifting down-market almost exclusively to product-led growth, enabling us to further accelerate the shift up market while we expand our focus on data. A result of these actions, we expect restructuring costs of $45 million-$60 million, the majority of which are cash costs and expected to be incurred in Q2 and Q3 2026. We expect to reduce annual run rate operating expenses by approximately $60 million with the actions, including restructuring the entirety of our Israeli operations, largely complete by Q1 of 2027. The majority of transitionary compensation costs from notification date through the completion of the discontinuation of operations in Israel will be added back for purposes of calculating our non-GAAP metrics. As we absorb these restructuring costs, our cash position and our underlying cash generation remain strong. Turning to cash in the period, GAAP operating cash flow was $115 million in Q1. Unlevered free cash flow for the quarter was $120 million, 109% conversion from adjusted operating income, and representing a margin of 39%. GAAP stock-based compensation expense was $25.5 million, down 14% year-over-year, and representing 8% of revenue. As a percentage of revenue, adjusted expenses combined with stock-based compensation improved 5 points year-over-year, reflecting a significant improvement to the quality of our earnings. We continue to prioritize performance-based compensation for cash and equity compensation with achieving rigorous free cash flow objectives. In Q1, we repurchased 13.1 million shares of common stock at an average price of $6.91 for an aggregate $90 million. Inclusive of the repurchase authorization announced in February, we had more than $1 billion in remaining repurchase capacity at the end of the quarter. Weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the quarter used in calculating non-GAAP diluted earnings per share was 318 million, and the non-GAAP share count exiting the quarter was 310 million. We ended the quarter with $175 million in cash equivalents, and investments, and we carried $1.3 billion in gross debt. As a result, our net leverage ratio is both 2.4x trailing twelve-months adjusted EBITDA and 2.4x trailing twelve-months cash EBITDA, which is defined as consolidated EBITDA in our credit agreements, as compared to 2.5x and 2.3x in the year-ago period. The $650 million in senior notes mature in 2029, and $581 million first lien term loan matures in 2030. We are comfortable with our current maturity profile, and we have sufficient liquidity and cash generation to manage our obligations as they come due. During the quarter, we entered into interest rate swap to fix a portion of our variable rate debt. We executed $425 million of notional interest rate swaps at a blended fixed rate of 3.28%, reducing our exposure to SOFR volatility while providing greater visibility into interest expense and free cash flow. Following the close of the quarter, we amended our revolving credit facility to increase total commitments from $250 million-$276 million, with U.S. Bank joining the lender group through an incremental commitment of $26 million. No additional borrowings were made in connection with the amendment. The upsizing expands and diversifies the lending group while providing additional liquidity capacity. With respect to liabilities and future performance obligations, unearned revenue at the end of the quarter was $479 million, and remaining performance obligations or RPO were $1.18 billion, of which $861 million are expected to be recognized in the next 12 months. Shifting to guidance for Q2, we expect GAAP revenue in the range of $300 million-$303 million. Adjusted operating income in the range of $103 million-$106 million. Non-GAAP net income in the range of $0.26-$0.28 per share. For the full year 2026, we now expect GAAP revenue in the range of $1.185 billion-$1.205 billion, representing a 4% year-over-year decline at the midpoint of guidance. An adjusted operating income in the range of $437 million-$447 million, representing a 37% margin at the midpoint of guidance, up 130 basis points year-over-year. We expect non-GAAP net income in the range of $1.10-$1.12 per share, consistent with our prior guidance based on 315 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding. We expect unlevered free cash flow in the range of $400 million-$420 million. I would expect a non-GAAP tax rate of closer to 10% in 2026 and cash interest expense in the range of $60 million-$62 million. We believe the actions and initiatives announced today will set us up to run rates at least $1.25 of adjusted levered free cash flow per share as we enter 2027 across a range of revenue growth and share repurchase scenarios. Now I will turn it over to the operator to open the call for questions. Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Mark Murphy with JPMorgan. You may proceed. Thank you very much. Henry, I'm wondering how big of a spread do you see in the demand patterns out there if you compare the software vertical up against traditional industries that might not have as much of a terminal value discussion occurring at the moment? I have a quick follow-up. Yeah, I can take that one, Mark. You know, we saw about, you know, almost two years of sequential improvement to retention in software, and that was flat in Q1, and that's a big data point as we, you know, consider that in the outlook in the guidance revision. When I look at other verticals that are, you know, potentially not having the terminal question, I look at finance, insurance, real estate, manufacturing, telecom. We had really solid quarters there where we continue to see really promising growth possibility. Okay. It's a very software-centric kind of situation, it sounds like. I'm curious as well, just how much of the AI confusion you're seeing would you relate to the takeoff of Claude Code during the month of March? I think that's when you saw, you know, a bit of a shift, and that seemed to be the period of liftoff for Claude Code. Just as a corollary, any thought on how long the that period of AI confusion might last? Yeah. I think the big shift here is, even in our most sophisticated software clients, what we're seeing them shift away from is a seat license in ZoomInfo and shift to significantly more consumption of our data inside of Claude with our MCPs through our APIs. We have a number of examples of AI native companies who have shifted from seats but are spending meaningfully more with us through consumption of our data in their internal applications that they've built, through our MCPs, through our APIs, through bulk credit consumption. We have a lot of confidence that there's this moment where companies are confused about what they actually need to be able to build their own internal applications, to build their own revenue workflows, where the most sophisticated AI native companies are leveraging our data throughout that entire workflow. Companies that are doing sort of quick AI projects have not made that realization yet. We are positioning the company from a pricing and packaging perspective to take advantage of that situation so that when we talk to a customer who tells us, "I don't need seats anymore because I've built my own application," that we can be really flexible and say, "Look, your own application is gonna need contact information, it's gonna need company information, it's gonna need hierarchy information, it's gonna need signal information, and we can be really flexible on your transition over to that as you build your own internal application. Understood. Thank you very much. Thank you. Our next question comes from Taylor McGinnis with UBS. You may proceed. Hi. Thanks so much for taking my questions. First one would just be on, when we look at the customers with greater than a 100K deal sizes that fell quarter-over-quarter, I know you mentioned earlier that you're seeing, you know, customers pause in light of this, but could you comment on, you know, some of these larger customer dynamics with that KPI and then also too with CRPO declining quarter-over-quarter? Maybe you could just comment on, you know, what exactly you're seeing amongst like this larger cohort of customers. Sure. You know, on the 100K, the activity in the 100K logo was a good microcosm of the quarter for the full business. There are four ways logos can enter or exit that cohort. You can buy in new from zero, you can enter via upsell, you can downsell out, you can churn altogether. When we look at Q1 this year versus Q1 last year, our performance improved or held flat across three of these entry and exit points. We sold in more new logos. We had significantly fewer downsell out, and we had about the same that churned altogether, which is a pretty low number. The upsell in is where we saw the significant decrease year over year, and that's representative of the challenges we saw around incremental purchases near the end of the quarter. On CRPO, you know, it's up 3% year-over-year in a slower Q1. I don't think that that outcome was really outside of our range of expectations. Great. Thanks. Then maybe, you know, going back to the pricing model change that you guys commented earlier, I think the comment was that you expect customers to renew under the new model at a similar deal size as compared to the old model. Can you just give us, you know, some proof points if you've had, you know, customers that have made, you know, that transition already under Operations, you know, as in what you've seen there, that's giving you guys, you know, that comfort, in this kinda net neutral positioning as we move to the new model? Yeah. We tested this with a number of our customers, and what we're seeing is two things. Some customers, it's pretty similar price points as they shipped away from seats. You're gonna see some customers shift up, you'll see some customers shift down, and it's largely based on how much they're consuming our data. For down-market users, we're gonna eliminate the access friction by moving away from term platform fees and seat floors, tying price much closer to value. Larger customers should expect simpler pricing and a less siloed product experience where their credits are purchased and then consumed really anywhere, inside of ZoomInfo applications or outside of ZoomInfo applications. We're seeing some up, some down, and we think it ends sort of net positively. Great. Thank you so much. Thank you. Our next question comes from Lucas Sarasola with Morgan Stanley. You may proceed. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I'm on for Sanjit Singh. With software demand exiting March and April, especially in software, should we think about Q2 as the growth trough? What needs to improve for you guys to get comfortable with the back half of the year? Yeah, you know, I look at it through some of the, maybe some of the leading indicators. Certainly, we've guided Q2 revenue to be down year-over-year. I think what we're really focused on is setting an expectation level that's going to allow us to accelerate these strategic initiatives in the back half of the year. As we do shift more towards consumption, as we do right-size our down-market business to be more PLG or essentially almost exclusively PLG-focused, that we, you know, we do go through a few quarters there where we do flip negative before getting back to, you know, more opportunity for positive year-over-year growth in the back half of 2027. I think the other thing that is worth pinning here is the bulk of the cut is deliberate, and it's down-market oriented. We're doing that and accelerating the transition here because we're clearly seeing the opportunity for consumption across a number of surface areas in our business more clearly. Our customers who are on Go-to-Market Studio are consuming significantly more than their counterparts not on Studio. Our customers in our MCP application that were really released over the last eight weeks are meaningful consumers of our data through the LLM platforms that our MCPs are plugged into. I think the big milestones are we need to put more of our customers into these high consumption interfaces, and that's our strategic focus right now. Got it. Just one more, if I may. Thinking about profitability as inference costs keep going up, how should we think about, you know, as you guys scale the business and customers continue to consume, how the profitability picture will look in the coming years? Look, when I look at the pro forma view of the business exiting this year, I think that when we return to growth, we'll, on a more consistent basis, we're going to have an opportunity to do so as a 40% margin company instead of a 35% margin company. When I break that down, I expect cost of service is still probably 13%-14% of revenue, but sales and marketing is closer to 27% with a path down to 25%. R&D is steady around 10% with a path lower, and G&A at 10% with a path lower. The business will be primed to deliver 40% margins with that return to growth, and the initiatives we announced today were a big part of that. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Our next question comes from Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank. You may proceed. Great. Thanks so much for taking the question. I guess my question, how much does the updated guidance, Graham, reflect the hesitation in downsell that you saw in Q1 continuing throughout the remainder of the year versus the impact of moving to consumption style deals? Can you remind us the rev rec on those consumption deals? Yeah, you know, as we proactively change how the business is structured and how we price and deliver, we're accounting for all of that. We're accounting for the down-market restructuring, the shift towards or away from seats in the pricing model. My guidance philosophy is shifting as part of that too, and that we need to rely more on future assumptions around the evolving pricing model and less on past performance to inform our models. We've embedded conservative assumptions around the macro, the software vertical, and the shift in pricing model away from seats. It's safe to say that our guidance for Q2 and the rest of the year takes a more cautious approach than it did in Q1. Our updated guidance fully accounts for the existing conditions and the planned timing of our strategic initiatives. You should think about this as a full measure revision. This is very much a proactive plan that we have a lot of confidence will deliver us to a place of more durable, efficient growth sooner than the status quo. On the, on the revenue accounting implications of this shift, look, first, customers are pulling us in this direction. We're already a big part of the way there, but there will be new revenue accounting dynamics that come along with it. I don't expect ACV scope to change, but customers on more variable consumption-focused plans will still roll up into that ACV number. From a technical perspective, with pre-committed consumption, we'll need to make an assumption around breakage and then predict and monitor customer usage patterns to match the satisfaction of performers' obligation. What that means is that could introduce some quarter-to-quarter noise in revenue recognition, which again, we've accounted for in the updated guidance. That's very comprehensive answer. Thank you for that, Graham. Maybe just one follow-up for you, Henry. I feel like, you know, from the very beginnings of covering ZoomInfo since the IPO, the one thing that hasn't changed is the quality of your data asset, and that really stands out above all else that's out there on the market. Can you just once again, for us, I know you said a lot about it, but it wouldn't hurt to hear you know, to what do they say? Repetition doesn't ruin the prayer. Would love to hear more about why, given how unique and comprehensive your data asset is, that you're not able to perhaps better weather this moment and whatever you can tell us to just really bring that point home would really be helpful. Thank you. Yeah. I think the biggest thing for us today is that our data asset has historically been trapped underneath a SaaS application, which obviously for the first 18, 19 years of our operating history, was exactly where our customers wanted to consume it. Really over the last 12 months, customers have been more inclined to want our data asset to be flexible and available throughout a number of other interfaces. We've always had an API, it was mainly deployed at really high sophisticated, highest end of our strategic customers. That could have been done with a lot of hand-holding. In today's world, the agent Claude needs to just understand our API documentation and plug it in seamlessly without ever having to talk to a human. We've spent really the last 18 months rebuilding the data infrastructure that delivers that data anywhere that a customer wants it. If you wanted intent data, you know, a year ago, you would have had to get that intent data through the SaaS interface inside of Copilot or SalesOS. Today, you can get it in an API, you could get it through the MCPs. It's really just the flexibility of making that data much more available to our customers wherever they wanna work, which has changed where they wanna work, has changed, you know, obviously much more significantly than the necessity for our data and the accuracy of our data. Really helpful. Thank you so much, guys. Thank you. Our next question comes from Alex Zukin with Wolfe Research. You may proceed. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I guess maybe in the spirit of channeling my inner Brad, I'm gonna ask a couple of similar questions, but it feels like on the call you're walking through maybe a couple of different issues simultaneously, longer sales cycles, particularly in software, an acceleration in your push to transform and get out of the lower end of the market, as well as accelerate the shift to consumption from seat. If you're guiding to exit the year at kind of a -8% growth and saying you're gonna return to growth in fiscal 2027, like how much of the headwind from which of those parts is embedded in that guide? Where do you feel like there's maybe a little less risk because it's you guys pushing versus pulling? Yeah. I think you've got it right in that we're, you know, we're looking at the software vertical and some of the softness there coming out of the quarter. The downmarket right-sizing, like that's probably the largest part of the guidance re-revision this year, is that we can pretty scientifically say we take out X resources downmarket, and that creates Y of a ACV headwind this year. I think the biggest question that we're modeling is the pricing transformation. You know, as we kind of accelerate that this year, that will become the larger part of the story next year. As we model that, you know, there might be instances where there are lower entry points, and the question that we're modeling is: when do we get the upside, whether it's intra-contract from upsell opportunity or at renewal from mitigated downsell pressure. I'd also add, Alex, you know, you've heard us talk over the last two years about our push to go up-market, and the retention characteristics and the growth characteristics in our up-market customer base are significantly better than our down-market customer base, which is diluting the up-market performance. We think this is a moment to rip the Band-Aid and really lean into that motion. You look at our operations business, which is now just under 20% of our overall ACV, that business is growing 20% year-over-year. It's the highest profitability part of our business, it directly correlates to customers needing more and more of our data as they continue to build internal AI applications and need to get their data foundation right. This feels like the moment to lean into that in a more aggressive way than we have historically. On the guidance, we're being super conservative with it because we recognize there are a number of moving pieces to the rest of the year. Got it. Maybe to the, Henry, to the point that you made earlier about, you know, some of your motions, particularly on kinda unleashing the data asset. It was particularly striking that at the same time as you're calling out, you know, kinda some headwinds in broader software and AI anxiety, two of your most iconic wins, I think that you cited in the quarter, were with Sierra and another AI unicorn. Maybe can you just help us understand how are I assume those two companies aren't, you know, massively expanding seat count. How are those two iconic wins specifically leveraging some of that, you know, kinda leading-edge functionality that you're talking about, and what do those either expands or lands look like relative to previous cohorts? You know, I think the big difference that we're seeing is customers, those AI native customers, are building their own internal revenue workflows. You know, in software, you have a very opinionated interface that you provide your customers, and it's opinionated because you have product managers who deeply understand the domain, and they try to build a flexible enough interface or a generic interface that customers across a broad spectrum of types and revenue workflows can get value out of. The AI natives are building their own revenue workflows. They're building their own interfaces. They're bringing in their own first-party data. They're building in their own unique workflows. Every company's go-to-market workflow is a little bit different than the next company's, but every company's go-to-market workflow requires data on companies, requires data on contacts, requires hierarchy and subsidiary mapping so that you could do territory segmentation and planning. These companies are coming in, and they're saying, "We have a revenue workflow. We built it. We've built a prospecting workflow, but we need data to plug into that." These deals are much heavier on the data consumption side, and much lighter on the seats. Thank you. as a big opportunity, an opportunity to embrace AI and really swing for a massive opportunity here. We think we're uniquely positioned to capture that. You know, if we were a traditional SaaS business, seats are not transferable into an LLM. It's very difficult to expand the surface area of where your product gets monetized. We are underlying a light SaaS interface is our data asset, which is the most important part of our business. We're gonna make that really available to anybody, anywhere a go-to-market workflow runs. We're uniquely positioned to be able to do that. Thank you. Our next question comes from Raimo Lenschow with Barclays. You may proceed. Hey, thank you. Quick question. What you see at the moment in software, is that the software companies are reducing their sales capacity, or is it that they are actively building the front end like the AI guys are doing? The question then becomes like, will it eventually then spill to other industries when they realize how the world is evolving? I have one follow-up for Graham. I think it's a little bit of both, but I think at this point, we are happy to see it spill over into other industries because we think the bigger upside opportunity here is consumption of our data where every go-to-market workflow runs. So, yeah, we see it in software today, and we're, you know, leaning in to capture that opportunity with much more flexible pricing and the ability to transfer seat prices into consumption of our data. If this goes on into insurance and, you know, financial services or other segments, our APIs and MCPs and ability for our customers to use our data as the reference data architecture for all their go-to-market workflows Gets better and better and better every quarter, and it's about adapting our pricing and packaging models to meet the customers where they are. Where, you know, in software and sophisticated customers, they're leaning into building their own things, and we're gonna show up with consumption that they need for that. I don't view this expanding beyond software as a negative. It is what we're preparing the company for. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Makes total sense. I mean, that's, you always have the very strong data set from the very beginning since we first met you. Graham, if you think about guidance, like how much is that, is guidance implying that, you know, software is moving versus other guys are moving? Is that do you think about this in stages? Like this year is more software and it's part of the guidance, and then next year something else? Are you going to like this year, the whole model gets flipped to consumption anyway, and so whatever other industries are doing, it doesn't matter then. Thank you. Yeah. I think there's certainly a vertical specific assumption around software. Look, we still see good performance in our up-market business and our operations business. The revision to revenue and the cost out is focused on our down-market business where our margin profile is the worst. The development of uncertainty on multiple fronts is the primary reason behind the guidance revision, and we wanna minimize the risk of another negative revision. Okay. Perfect. Makes sense. Good luck. Thank you. Our next question comes from Allan M. Verkhovski with BTIG. You may proceed. Hey there. Thanks for taking the question. You have a number of large up-market customers that spend millions on an annual basis with you. I think the reason for the shift to consumption makes sense. What kind of feedback and signals have you gotten that these larger customers are willing to spend the same amount, if not more, through a consumption model? I've got a quick follow-up. Yeah. When you look at the customers that spend the most with us annually, a lot of those are Operations customers. Our Operations business is our fastest-growing business at scale, growing over 20% year-over-year. We've seen, you know, not only a, you know, lack of reluctance, but increasing demand from those customers that are not on a seat-based model, that are largely data access customers. What we've seen is not only do they have better gross retention outcomes, they have significantly better net retention outcomes. Where they, you know, come in at an entry point and then essentially buy more and more and expand their investment with ZoomInfo over time. Got it. Graham, of your up-market ACV growth of 5% this quarter, what is the up-market software and non-software ACV growing? Within the 100K plus ACV customer cohort, can you share the number of customers that decline there? What % of them are software companies? Up-market within, you know, the software portion of up-market, software overall was, you know, down a little bit sequentially in Q1. That is what is kind of creating the drag, both down-market and to some extent at the lower end of up-market. Within, within the 100K logo cohort, there are not as many logos period, but even software logos that are down-selling out of that. It really was a phenomenon of having less that were upselling into the quarter. We had better net from zero new sales into the cohort. We had significantly better down-sell on, or I guess lack of down-sell out of the cohort. Similar churn out as well. It's really a kind of pause around incremental purchases that we saw at the end of Q3, and that was largely focused in software. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Brent Bracelin with Piper Sandler. You may proceed. Hey guys. Thanks for taking the question here. Given the shift to more flexible pricing and packaging in the back half to better align with, to better align monetization with customer value, as we think about the guidance and as that kind of flows through the model, given the commentary around how some customers may end up paying more, some may end up paying less, can you just give us the building blocks for how we should think about this guidance in the back half? If I could sneak in a second one. With the closing of the Israel R&D center, can you just help us think about ZoomInfo's ability to balance investing for an AI era with kind of a lower R&D base? Does this change any of your R&D priorities for the remainder of 2026? Thank you. Yeah. You know, on kind of the composition of the guidance, when I look at the reduction and kind of breaking that down into the building blocks, about a quarter of that, a little bit more is coming from the down-market restructuring, where we're taking the least efficient down-market sales resources out and therefore in some cases foregoing or bringing in that inefficient down-market ACV at lower price points through a PLG motion. A little bit less than a quarter is coming from more cautious assumptions around software. A little less than a quarter is coming from the pricing ins and outs and the revenue recognition variability with the shift towards consumption. The rest is just a layer of incremental conservatism. Yeah, look, I think the upside versus downside conversation as we, as we shift the model here is really gonna come down to timing and opportunity in the customer base. In Q3 and Q4, we're gonna learn more about what those net new customer sales look like and what the customer base migration looks like. In some cases, there'll be a balance of lower entry points that unlock upside of renewal or even intercontract, and it's just gonna be a timing equation with respect to that. On the engineering side, there are two things. One, our engineers, with the help of coding agents, are delivering significantly multiple times more software into our platform than they ever have historically. We are seeing velocity boost. I mentioned all of the MCPs and integrations that we did over the last eight weeks. Just one of those would have taken us eight weeks, best case, a year ago. We're seeing real engineering efficiency coming from our leveraging of AI internally at ZoomInfo. I think the second thing is there are a number of roles that we won't have as much necessity for. We don't need as many front-end developers as we did before. We're able to build a front end in a really simple way. Where a lot of focus historically was on the front end, more of the focus is now on the data infrastructure, the back end, and the flexibility of that data to get plugged into a number of places. It's not as necessary for us to have as many front-end application developers as we've had historically. Thank you. Appreciate the granular detail on the guide. Thank you. Our next question comes from Siti Panigrahi with Mizuho. You may proceed. Just to follow up to that earlier question is, I mean, 600 jobs roles that you reduced, what's the mix of that in different functions, go-to-market versus R&D or any other back office functions? Sure. It's mostly going to be R&D. You can think about it as like about half R&D, the rest of it is mostly going to be down-market sales and marketing resources. You could think about it as probably 90% R&D and down-market sales and marketing. There's some G&A that makes up another 10% or so of the roles. Okay. NRR has been flat at 90% now for the last three quarters. As you are looking into further this deliberate shift away from this seat-based pricing and also some kinda churn you're expecting in software, what's the floor on NRR in 2026? Does it have to bounce back as you're thinking about growth to re-accelerate? Yeah. I think the bounce back after, you know, potentially some near-term headwind here would certainly be the most important thing to, you know, as part of that return to growth. With some of the, you know, with the proactive shift in the pricing model, there may be some regression in overall net revenue retention, and that's certainly reflected in the guidance. I think we feel really confident about offsetting that quickly thereafter with upside from the shift towards the consumption model. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from David Hynes with Canaccord Genuity. You may proceed. Hey. Thank you, guys. Henry, we've talked a lot about more flexible pricing. I think that makes a ton of sense. Do you also have to get more aggressive in lower prices to re-accelerate demand? I think that what we're thinking, DJ, is not creating artificial barriers to get in and leverage our data, particularly in the down market, where we have an opportunity to bring a customer on for lower prices, but align that customer to value through consumption of our data, either in our platform or in an LLM. We wanna make it really easy to transact with us. One of the core assumptions of this shift is that our PLG motion drive drives more opportunity down market by removing platform fees, seat minimum, and aligning towards consumption, which we think is better aligned to what the customer is looking for. Yeah. Okay. Then Graham, a follow-up for you. Just based on how you're forecasting the business today, when do you expect to see a return to positive quarterly sequential revenue growth? I'd say we expect growth to be sustainably positive by the second half of 2027 at the latest, with healthier underpinnings and nearly called unconstrained upside to our consumption TAM. Yep. Okay. Very clear. Thanks. Thank you. Our next question comes from Parker Lane with Stifel. You may proceed. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I believe you said it was the third quarter that you'll introduce the platform fee with prepackaged credits. Just to be clear, for customers that have upgraded in 1Q and 2Q or will have a renewal that extends beyond the second half of the year, are you gonna be negotiating under this new pricing structure and maybe trying to shift them to a new model ahead of time, or is it only gonna happen at renewal? Second, do you anticipate less willingness to engage in similar durations? Do you think people will compress their duration at all in response to how fast things are moving out there? Yeah, look, I think we're gonna have an opportunity to work with our customers to shift them into this pricing model regardless of renewal dates. It's not gonna be a forced shift, but in Q3 from a new business perspective, we'll be leading with this for the first time. Then with the customer base, we're gonna meet the customer kind of where the value is, and there's gonna be opportunities to shift them to this more variable pricing and away from kind of the more fixed model, and we see a lot of upside for the customer and for us in doing so. Got it. Thank you. I'm sorry, what was the second question, Parker? It was on duration, if you see any less willingness to engage in similar durations, particularly those that have been multi-year. You know, we haven't seen that with the operations business where you know, that has significantly longer duration than some of our other products. I would expect that we won't see a headwind on that front. Got it. Appreciate it. Thank you. Our next question comes from Jackson Ader with KeyBank. You may proceed. Great. Hello, this is Nathan Ross on for Jackson Ader. Thank you for taking our questions. Regarding the Studio and Workspace, what's been the initial customer feedback on these tools thus far, specifically for Workspace since it's newer, and how do you expect these tools to attach to contracts going forward? Thank you. Yeah. Initial, you know, we did a much more heavy push this quarter on GTM Studio. We introduced it to about a quarter of our customers who are now in trials of Studio. They're hands-on trials with their account managers and solution consultants. They're consuming data within Studio. Then we're moving a lot of those customers to paid customers of Studio. We feel really good about the feedback we're hearing there. There are use cases that weren't accomplishable inside of legacy ZoomInfo platform that they now are able to do inside of Studio that they wouldn't have been able to do before. We've layered AI inside of Studio, and all of that is really designed to drive consumption. We expect Studio to be a meaningful driver of consumption of our data, through that platform. That's really where we're focused. You know, that's a similar model where instead of a platform fee, you're paying for consumption to come into Studio, and your upfront fees translate into consumption data and AI credits. It's been really positive feedback. It's really early still, but we feel really good about the feedback that we're hearing there. We continue to invest meaningful R&D dollars behind that platform as well. Great. Super helpful. Then one more from me. As you guys transition to more of a consumption model going forward, how do you help customers get comfortable with the variable pricing who are originally used to seat-based fixed pricing? Thank you. Generally, we'll work with the customers to kind of establish guardrails around the sizing of the initial purchase. We still expect this to be, for the most part, recommitted consumption spend, so they're paying for a level of credits upfront, and when they've gone through those credits, we can sell them more. We're, you know, really sensitive to making sure that the customers feel comfortable with that initial purchase and, you know, certainly comfortable with the value that we're ascribing to it. Awesome. Thanks so much, guys. Thank you. Our next question comes from Tyler Radke with Citi. You may proceed. Thanks for taking the question. Just to double-click on the timing of all these changes. I think you talked about a 12-18 month sort of period of transition. Can you just remind us, are you essentially expecting all customers to be kind of migrated over to this new consumption plan by, you know, the second quarter of 2028? Is that the quarter where we see ACV growth trough, and then revenue kind of follows after that? Just walk us through the mechanics of that and anything we should keep in mind in terms of revenue recognition. Yeah. I think if we're thinking about kind of the order of operations here, we plan to be leading the new business motion with this hybrid non-seat-based model by the end of Q3 this year, as well as kicking off kind of a more formal transition for customers who want to move to this and who we believe will benefit from this. As we get, I think what we said is in 12-18 months, we'd like to be closer to 50/50 from a seat-based ACV versus non-seat-based ACV perspective. Right now, we're two-thirds seats and about a third non-seats. I think, you know, shifting 15-17 points there over the next 12-18 months is our plan. We don't think that that is the kind of clock on when we get back to growth. I think we're, you know, really confident in getting back to revenue growth on an annual basis by the back half of 2027, and that would probably be a quarter or so after we're back to a ACV growth trajectory. Got it. How do you think about long-term GAAP operating margins, free cash flow margins under this new model? You know, obviously in the past, you guys have stepped up share purchases, you know, in periods where the stock is dislocated. How do you just think about all those pieces given the announcements today? I think the biggest thing is that we are committed to protecting and growing cash flow per share in any set of conditions. Thank you. Our next question comes from Brian Peterson with Raymond James. You may proceed. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Graham, you mentioned that the operations business has longer duration. I'd love to maybe understand, you know, anything that you can share about that business in terms of end market exposure, sales cycles, you know, how much comes in kind of net new versus cross-sell as that becomes a more important part of the business. Thanks, guys. Sure. you know, it's still a lot of the growth in the operations business does come from existing customers, whether they're ZoomInfo customers that are cross-selling into operations or existing operations customers that are expanding their operations spend. That's where the lion's share of it comes from. The net retention and the gross retention in the operations business is better than any other business within ZoomInfo. You know what that means is we still have a good amount of logo white space, whether they're existing ZoomInfo logos or not, so acquire as operations customers. Graham, is there any sense for how much of that is tech or software related? You know, any help on end market mix? It's pretty diverse. It's less, you know, software heavy than our kind of core offerings. It's very heavily weighted to large enterprises across a diverse set of verticals. Great. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Our next question comes from Austin Cole with Citizens. You may proceed. Great. Thanks for taking the question here. I don't think there's been a lot of discussion about Copilot. I think last quarter was over 20% of total ACV. I'm just wondering if there's any update you can provide with respect to that metric or just how those renewals trended in the quarter or kind of if the shift is just transforming your overall vision for Copilot. I think the pricing model will certainly play into how we package and sell Copilot here, but Q1 was another really solid quarter for Copilot. It continues to increase as a mix of the total business, and I think it was actually one of the brighter spots for us in the quarter. What will change in the future is how we price Copilot, and you should expect that it's priced, you know, more from a prepackaged credit perspective than historically where we sold it on a seat basis. Great. Maybe just as a quick follow-up here. The AI confusion and some of the macro that you discussed earlier in the call, is there anything you can share with respect to maybe how that's just trended so far kind of in April and early May and whether those trends have continued or how those have changed more recently? Yeah. It's pretty similar to what we saw at the end of the quarter. It's not necessarily getting worse. I think we're still in that pause phase. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
Speaker 14: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the ZoomInfo First Quarter 2026 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jeremiah Sisitsky, Vice President of Investor Relations. Good day, and thank you for standing by. good day and thank you for standing by Welcome to the ZoomInfo First Quarter 2026 financial results conference call. welcome to the zoominfo first quarter 2026 financial results conference call At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. at this time all participants are in a listen-only mode Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. please be advised that today's conference is being recorded After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. after the speaker's presentation there will be a question-and-answer session To ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. to ask a question please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. to withdraw your question please press star 11 again I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jeremiah Sisitsky, Vice President of Investor Relations. i would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today jeremiah sisitsky vice president of investor relations
Speaker 10: Thanks, Josh. Welcome to ZoomInfo's financial results conference call for the first quarter of 2026. With me on the call today are Henry Schuck, Founder and CEO of ZoomInfo, and Graham O'Brien, our Chief Financial Officer. During this call, any forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of U.S. securities laws. Expressions of future goals, including business outlook, expectations for future financial performance, and similar items, including without limitation, expressions using the terminology may, will, expect, anticipate, and believe, and expressions which reflect something other than historical facts, are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties, including those discussed in the Risk Factors sections of our SEC filings. Actual results may differ materially from any forward-looking statements. Thanks, Josh. thanks josh Welcome to ZoomInfo's financial results conference call for the first quarter of 2026. welcome to zoominfo's financial results conference call for the first quarter of 2026 With me on the call today are Henry Schuck, Founder and CEO of ZoomInfo, and Graham O'Brien, our Chief Financial Officer. with me on the call today are henry schuck founder and ceo of zoominfo and graham o'brien our chief financial officer During this call, any forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of U.S. securities laws. during this call any forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of u.s securities laws Expressions of future goals, including business outlook, expectations for future financial performance, and similar items, including without limitation, expressions using the terminology may, will, expect, anticipate, and believe, and expressions which reflect something other than historical facts, are intended to identify forward-looking statements. expressions of future goals including business outlook expectations for future financial performance and similar items including without limitation expressions using the terminology may will expect anticipate and believe and expressions which reflect something other than historical facts are intended to identify forward-looking statements Forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties, including those discussed in the Risk Factors sections of our SEC filings. forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties including those discussed in the risk factors sections of our sec filings Actual results may differ materially from any forward-looking statements. actual results may differ materially from any forward-looking statements The company undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events that may arise after this conference call, except as required by law. For more information, please refer to the forward-looking statements in the slides posted to the investor relations website at ir.zoominfo.com. All metrics on this call are non-GAAP, unless otherwise noted. A reconciliation can be found in the financial results press release or in the slides posted to our IR website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Henry. The company undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events that may arise after this conference call, except as required by law. the company undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events that may arise after this conference call except as required by law For more information, please refer to the forward-looking statements in the slides posted to the investor relations website at ir.zoominfo.com. for more information please refer to the forward-looking statements in the slides posted to the investor relations website at ir.zoominfo.com All metrics on this call are non-GAAP, unless otherwise noted. all metrics on this call are non-gaap unless otherwise noted A reconciliation can be found in the financial results press release or in the slides posted to our IR website. a reconciliation can be found in the financial results press release or in the slides posted to our ir website With that, I'll turn the call over to Henry. with that i'll turn the call over to henry
Speaker 9: Thank you, Jerry. Welcome everyone. We started 2026 by delivering revenue and adjusted operating income above the high end of our Q1 guidance. Revenue for the first quarter was $310 million, up 1.5% year-over-year, and adjusted operating income margin was 35%, up more than two points year-over-year. Our non-seat-based operations and Data as a Service offerings, one of the most profitable parts of the business and almost exclusively upmarket, again grew more than 20% year-over-year in the quarter and now makes up just under 20% of our business. While we exceeded our guidance in Q1, as macro conditions worsened at the end of the quarter, we experienced a regression in our downmarket and upmarket growth trajectories. Thank you, Jerry. thank you jerry Welcome everyone. welcome everyone We started 2026 by delivering revenue and adjusted operating income above the high end of our Q1 guidance. we started 2026 by delivering revenue and adjusted operating income above the high end of our q1 guidance Revenue for the first quarter was $310 million, up 1.5% year-over-year, and adjusted operating income margin was 35%, up more than two points year-over-year. revenue for the first quarter was $310 million up 1.5% year-over-year and adjusted operating income margin was 35% up more than two points year-over-year Our non-seat-based operations and Data as a Service offerings, one of the most profitable parts of the business and almost exclusively upmarket, again grew more than 20% year-over-year in the quarter and now makes up just under 20% of our business. our non-seat-based operations and data as a service offerings one of the most profitable parts of the business and almost exclusively upmarket again grew more than 20% year-over-year in the quarter and now makes up just under 20% of our business While we exceeded our guidance in Q1, as macro conditions worsened at the end of the quarter, we experienced a regression in our downmarket and upmarket growth trajectories. while we exceeded our guidance in q1 as macro conditions worsened at the end of the quarter we experienced a regression in our downmarket and upmarket growth trajectories In the closing days of March and into April, we saw a trend of AI and agentic confusion in our customer conversations. What can be built versus bought, what vendor or internal team delivers what, and where the differentiation really lives. This led to a pause in purchasing decisions, and our software customers were particularly affected, as many are facing a confusing purchasing landscape compounded by the threat of their own growth disruption, creating a circular headwind in our space. As a result, we're revising our full year guidance down in conjunction with significant cost reductions that we believe will position us with structurally higher operating margins and create a faster path back to durable growth. This was hard because of the impact on a large number of our teammates, many with long tenures here, who did good work to get us to this point. In the closing days of March and into April, we saw a trend of AI and agentic confusion in our customer conversations. in the closing days of march and into april we saw a trend of ai and agentic confusion in our customer conversations What can be built versus bought, what vendor or internal team delivers what, and where the differentiation really lives. what can be built versus bought what vendor or internal team delivers what and where the differentiation really lives This led to a pause in purchasing decisions, and our software customers were particularly affected, as many are facing a confusing purchasing landscape compounded by the threat of their own growth disruption, creating a circular headwind in our space. this led to a pause in purchasing decisions and our software customers were particularly affected as many are facing a confusing purchasing landscape compounded by the threat of their own growth disruption creating a circular headwind in our space As a result, we're revising our full year guidance down in conjunction with significant cost reductions that we believe will position us with structurally higher operating margins and create a faster path back to durable growth. as a result we're revising our full year guidance down in conjunction with significant cost reductions that we believe will position us with structurally higher operating margins and create a faster path back to durable growth This was hard because of the impact on a large number of our teammates, many with long tenures here, who did good work to get us to this point. this was hard because of the impact on a large number of our teammates many with long tenures here who did good work to get us to this point Change is necessary and a positive decision for the future of ZoomInfo. We made these changes with an eye on the opportunity for us to expand consumption of our data with the proliferation of AI, an opportunity we believe to be potentially larger than anything we've seen in the first 20 years of operating the business. AI has structurally changed how software is built, bought, and used. LLMs have given go-to-market teams a simpler interface to work with data and build custom revenue workflows without heavy technical support. These interfaces will increase across all of software, and as they do, our traditional seats tied to application model will come under pressure, while at the same time our opportunity to tie into the growth slipstream of go-to-market work that LLMs and coding agents enable expands through our data offerings. Change is necessary and a positive decision for the future of ZoomInfo. change is necessary and a positive decision for the future of zoominfo We made these changes with an eye on the opportunity for us to expand consumption of our data with the proliferation of AI, an opportunity we believe to be potentially larger than anything we've seen in the first 20 years of operating the business. we made these changes with an eye on the opportunity for us to expand consumption of our data with the proliferation of ai an opportunity we believe to be potentially larger than anything we've seen in the first 20 years of operating the business AI has structurally changed how software is built, bought, and used. ai has structurally changed how software is built bought and used LLMs have given go-to-market teams a simpler interface to work with data and build custom revenue workflows without heavy technical support. llms have given go-to-market teams a simpler interface to work with data and build custom revenue workflows without heavy technical support These interfaces will increase across all of software, and as they do, our traditional seats tied to application model will come under pressure, while at the same time our opportunity to tie into the growth slipstream of go-to-market work that LLMs and coding agents enable expands through our data offerings. these interfaces will increase across all of software and as they do our traditional seats tied to application model will come under pressure while at the same time our opportunity to tie into the growth slipstream of go-to-market work that llms and coding agents enable expands through our data offerings Our strategy is to make ZoomInfo's go-to-market data ubiquitous, available wherever go-to-market work gets done, including ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity, Microsoft Copilot, Google Gemini, and internally built applications. With an increasingly headless approach to software, these workflows become materially more valuable when powered by our data and insights. Confusion around what AI can do and cannot do, and where our data critically plugs in, is temporary, and combined with pockets of overhang in our seats-based pricing, may create a near-term net headwind in our business. The long-term tailwind, as AI agents and interfaces continue to grow exponentially, is to ensure our high-quality go-to-market data plugs in across those growing surface areas. The promise of that future upside is evident in our operations business and in the value our largest customers continue to assign to their investments with ZoomInfo. Our strategy is to make ZoomInfo's go-to-market data ubiquitous, available wherever go-to-market work gets done, including ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity, Microsoft Copilot, Google Gemini, and internally built applications. our strategy is to make zoominfo's go-to-market data ubiquitous available wherever go-to-market work gets done including chatgpt claude perplexity microsoft copilot google gemini and internally built applications With an increasingly headless approach to software, these workflows become materially more valuable when powered by our data and insights. with an increasingly headless approach to software these workflows become materially more valuable when powered by our data and insights Confusion around what AI can do and cannot do, and where our data critically plugs in, is temporary, and combined with pockets of overhang in our seats-based pricing, may create a near-term net headwind in our business. confusion around what ai can do and cannot do and where our data critically plugs in is temporary and combined with pockets of overhang in our seats-based pricing may create a near-term net headwind in our business The long-term tailwind, as AI agents and interfaces continue to grow exponentially, is to ensure our high-quality go-to-market data plugs in across those growing surface areas. the long-term tailwind as ai agents and interfaces continue to grow exponentially is to ensure our high-quality go-to-market data plugs in across those growing surface areas The promise of that future upside is evident in our operations business and in the value our largest customers continue to assign to their investments with ZoomInfo. the promise of that future upside is evident in our operations business and in the value our largest customers continue to assign to their investments with zoominfo ZoomInfo understands complex Global 2000 account hierarchies, curates proprietary contact data, operates a privacy-first identity graph, enriches 5.5 billion data attributes, and processes 1.05 trillion intent signals each month. Each raw data point needs to be cleansed, normalized, and transformed into go-to-market ready output every day. AI-driven or not, go-to-market organizations need this data infrastructure from ZoomInfo. Capturing this shift requires us to sell and operate differently. Our actions this morning across our employee base restructure ZoomInfo to operate more efficiently, generate stronger cash flow, and reposition our data assets, APIs, and MCPs as a larger, more durable part of the business. Our operations business shows the model we believe the market is moving towards, non-seat-based, data-led, upmarket, high retention, and highly defensible. Our goal is to make more of ZoomInfo transact and grow that way. ZoomInfo understands complex Global 2000 account hierarchies, curates proprietary contact data, operates a privacy-first identity graph, enriches 5.5 billion data attributes, and processes 1.05 trillion intent signals each month. zoominfo understands complex global 2000 account hierarchies curates proprietary contact data operates a privacy-first identity graph enriches 5.5 billion data attributes and processes 1.05 trillion intent signals each month Each raw data point needs to be cleansed, normalized, and transformed into go-to-market ready output every day. each raw data point needs to be cleansed normalized and transformed into go-to-market ready output every day AI-driven or not, go-to-market organizations need this data infrastructure from ZoomInfo. ai-driven or not go-to-market organizations need this data infrastructure from zoominfo Capturing this shift requires us to sell and operate differently. capturing this shift requires us to sell and operate differently Our actions this morning across our employee base restructure ZoomInfo to operate more efficiently, generate stronger cash flow, and reposition our data assets, APIs, and MCPs as a larger, more durable part of the business. our actions this morning across our employee base restructure zoominfo to operate more efficiently generate stronger cash flow and reposition our data assets apis and mcps as a larger more durable part of the business Our operations business shows the model we believe the market is moving towards, non-seat-based, data-led, upmarket, high retention, and highly defensible. our operations business shows the model we believe the market is moving towards non-seat-based data-led upmarket high retention and highly defensible Our goal is to make more of ZoomInfo transact and grow that way. our goal is to make more of zoominfo transact and grow that way As part of that evolution, we're leading with data. Beginning in Q3, customers will have the flexibility to convert historical per-seat spend into consumption across ZoomInfo data, insights, applications, and agents. This will be a more formal effort in matching the pricing and value delivery to the best customer behaviors and outcomes. We're expanding where customers can access and pay for ZoomInfo data, including ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Copilot, and internally built applications. We are shifting investment from front-end application development toward data, AI-enabled engineering, product-led growth, LLM interfaces, and higher-margin customer segments. I want to briefly explain the durability of our data asset. ZoomInfo's moat is not a single data set. As part of that evolution, we're leading with data. as part of that evolution we're leading with data Beginning in Q3, customers will have the flexibility to convert historical per-seat spend into consumption across ZoomInfo data, insights, applications, and agents. beginning in q3 customers will have the flexibility to convert historical per-seat spend into consumption across zoominfo data insights applications and agents This will be a more formal effort in matching the pricing and value delivery to the best customer behaviors and outcomes. this will be a more formal effort in matching the pricing and value delivery to the best customer behaviors and outcomes We're expanding where customers can access and pay for ZoomInfo data, including ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Copilot, and internally built applications. we're expanding where customers can access and pay for zoominfo data including chatgpt claude gemini copilot and internally built applications We are shifting investment from front-end application development toward data, AI-enabled engineering, product-led growth, LLM interfaces, and higher-margin customer segments. we are shifting investment from front-end application development toward data ai-enabled engineering product-led growth llm interfaces and higher-margin customer segments I want to briefly explain the durability of our data asset. i want to briefly explain the durability of our data asset ZoomInfo's moat is not a single data set. zoominfo's moat is not a single data set It is a layered system, proprietary B2B data, contributory network inputs, public and partner-sourced intelligence, real-time business signals, entity resolution, a privacy-first identity graph, governance infrastructure, and activation workflows. At the foundation is ZoomInfo's intelligence layer, billions of data points with more than 140 million company entity records, 580 million+ IP to organization pairing, more than 500 million professional profiles, and data including intent, hierarchy, location, financial information, personnel moves, technology usage, funding details, organizational charts, news, and other commercial signals. The value is not just collecting this data, it is resolving it. Company names change, M&A happens, people change roles, titles vary, subsidiaries roll into parents, and the same person can appear differently across dozens of sources. ZoomInfo resolves that noise into a living, governed, commercially useful graph that customers can activate in their workflows. It is a layered system, proprietary B2B data, contributory network inputs, public and partner-sourced intelligence, real-time business signals, entity resolution, a privacy-first identity graph, governance infrastructure, and activation workflows. it is a layered system proprietary b2b data contributory network inputs public and partner-sourced intelligence real-time business signals entity resolution a privacy-first identity graph governance infrastructure and activation workflows At the foundation is ZoomInfo's intelligence layer, billions of data points with more than 140 million company entity records, 580 million+ IP to organization pairing, more than 500 million professional profiles, and data including intent, hierarchy, location, financial information, personnel moves, technology usage, funding details, organizational charts, news, and other commercial signals. at the foundation is zoominfo's intelligence layer billions of data points with more than 140 million company entity records 580 million+ ip to organization pairing more than 500 million professional profiles and data including intent hierarchy location financial information personnel moves technology usage funding details organizational charts news and other commercial signals The value is not just collecting this data, it is resolving it. the value is not just collecting this data it is resolving it Company names change, M&A happens, people change roles, titles vary, subsidiaries roll into parents, and the same person can appear differently across dozens of sources. company names change m&a happens people change roles titles vary subsidiaries roll into parents and the same person can appear differently across dozens of sources ZoomInfo resolves that noise into a living, governed, commercially useful graph that customers can activate in their workflows. zoominfo resolves that noise into a living governed commercially useful graph that customers can activate in their workflows The next layer is our signal and context data, identifying who's in market and why. Foundation models are incredible at reasoning, writing, summarizing, and automating, but they do not inherently know which companies are real targets, which contacts are current, which buying signals are fresh, which account hierarchies matter, which technologies are installed, which prospects are in market, or which internal CRM patterns predict conversion. GTM AI becomes useful only when the model is grounded in accurate, permissioned, current, entity-resolved business context. Our signal and context layer is built around our contributory network and proprietary identity graph, both unique, non-publicly available data assets that create real value for go-to-market. The final layer is trust, governance, accuracy, privacy, and compliance. We collect, verify, and publish high-quality, ethically sourced business information with a privacy program built around global privacy laws like the CCPA, PIPEDA, and GDPR. The next layer is our signal and context data, identifying who's in market and why. the next layer is our signal and context data identifying who's in market and why Foundation models are incredible at reasoning, writing, summarizing, and automating, but they do not inherently know which companies are real targets, which contacts are current, which buying signals are fresh, which account hierarchies matter, which technologies are installed, which prospects are in market, or which internal CRM patterns predict conversion. foundation models are incredible at reasoning writing summarizing and automating but they do not inherently know which companies are real targets which contacts are current which buying signals are fresh which account hierarchies matter which technologies are installed which prospects are in market or which internal crm patterns predict conversion GTM AI becomes useful only when the model is grounded in accurate, permissioned, current, entity-resolved business context. gtm ai becomes useful only when the model is grounded in accurate permissioned current entity-resolved business context Our signal and context layer is built around our contributory network and proprietary identity graph, both unique, non-publicly available data assets that create real value for go-to-market. our signal and context layer is built around our contributory network and proprietary identity graph both unique non-publicly available data assets that create real value for go-to-market The final layer is trust, governance, accuracy, privacy, and compliance. the final layer is trust governance accuracy privacy and compliance We collect, verify, and publish high-quality, ethically sourced business information with a privacy program built around global privacy laws like the CCPA, PIPEDA, and GDPR. we collect verify and publish high-quality ethically sourced business information with a privacy program built around global privacy laws like the ccpa pipeda and gdpr Our notice and choice program provides notification when professionals' profiles first appear in the platform, offers multiple opt-out methods, honors removal requests, and takes steps to prevent removed profiles from being re-added. Our governance framework aligns with major regulatory regimes. We maintain the industry's most robust set of privacy, security, and compliance certifications. As GTM work becomes increasingly agentic, every AI seller, marketer, rev ops workflow, and customer growth motion will need a trusted intelligence layer that tells it who to target, why now, what changed, and what to do next. Our customers, industry analysts, and partners are validating this. Customers ranked us number one in 142 G2 Spring 2026 reports across sales intelligence, buyer intent data, and lead capture. Our notice and choice program provides notification when professionals' profiles first appear in the platform, offers multiple opt-out methods, honors removal requests, and takes steps to prevent removed profiles from being re-added. our notice and choice program provides notification when professionals' profiles first appear in the platform offers multiple opt-out methods honors removal requests and takes steps to prevent removed profiles from being re-added Our governance framework aligns with major regulatory regimes. our governance framework aligns with major regulatory regimes We maintain the industry's most robust set of privacy, security, and compliance certifications. we maintain the industry's most robust set of privacy security and compliance certifications As GTM work becomes increasingly agentic, every AI seller, marketer, rev ops workflow, and customer growth motion will need a trusted intelligence layer that tells it who to target, why now, what changed, and what to do next. as gtm work becomes increasingly agentic every ai seller marketer rev ops workflow and customer growth motion will need a trusted intelligence layer that tells it who to target why now what changed and what to do next Our customers, industry analysts, and partners are validating this. our customers industry analysts and partners are validating this Customers ranked us number one in 142 G2 Spring 2026 reports across sales intelligence, buyer intent data, and lead capture. customers ranked us number one in 142 g2 spring 2026 reports across sales intelligence buyer intent data and lead capture Forrester's recent Wave for marketing and sales data providers called ZoomInfo, quote, "Entrenched as the default data provider for B2B sales, setting a technology standard for data collection and identity resolution." In Q1, Salesforce released its prospecting agent with ZoomInfo as the 1st and primary external data provider. Our contact, company, intent, and scoops data powers recommendations across Salesforce's 150,000-plus customer base. HubSpot also shipped its prospecting agent with a native ZoomInfo integration. When the two largest CRM platforms choose ZoomInfo to power AI prospecting agents, it reinforces the durability and relevance of our data asset. We also launched connectors for ChatGPT, Claude, Microsoft Copilot, and Perplexity, and are advancing our Google Gemini integration. Data integrations have doubled year-over-year, and MCP connections are growing organically without dedicated sales or marketing. Forrester's recent Wave for marketing and sales data providers called ZoomInfo, quote, "Entrenched as the default data provider for B2B sales, setting a technology standard for data collection and identity resolution." In Q1, Salesforce released its prospecting agent with ZoomInfo as the 1st and primary external data provider. forrester's recent wave for marketing and sales data providers called zoominfo quote "entrenched as the default data provider for b2b sales setting a technology standard for data collection and identity resolution." in q1 salesforce released its prospecting agent with zoominfo as the 1st and primary external data provider Our contact, company, intent, and scoops data powers recommendations across Salesforce's 150,000-plus customer base. our contact company intent and scoops data powers recommendations across salesforce's 150,000-plus customer base HubSpot also shipped its prospecting agent with a native ZoomInfo integration. hubspot also shipped its prospecting agent with a native zoominfo integration When the two largest CRM platforms choose ZoomInfo to power AI prospecting agents, it reinforces the durability and relevance of our data asset. when the two largest crm platforms choose zoominfo to power ai prospecting agents it reinforces the durability and relevance of our data asset We also launched connectors for ChatGPT, Claude, Microsoft Copilot, and Perplexity, and are advancing our Google Gemini integration. we also launched connectors for chatgpt claude microsoft copilot and perplexity and are advancing our google gemini integration Data integrations have doubled year-over-year, and MCP connections are growing organically without dedicated sales or marketing. data integrations have doubled year-over-year and mcp connections are growing organically without dedicated sales or marketing We expanded Go-to-Market Studio trials to more than a quarter of existing customers, helping customers build automated workflows triggered by ZoomInfo signals. Going forward, our application layers will serve as engines for data engagement and consumption rather than standalone application seat products. As customers renew in the back half of the year, we're introducing more flexible pricing and packaging built around data access and usage. This reduces reliance on platform fees and per-seat charges, lowers the overhang from seat compression, and better aligns monetization with customer value. We expect most customers to transition at similar price points, with some moving lower and some higher. While this may create a near-term revenue headwind, it gives us a cleaner model and a better opportunity to grow as customers expand their use of ZoomInfo data. Turning to customer wins, in Q1, we signed deals with Sierra, Lyft, and Wyndham Hotels and Resorts. We expanded Go-to-Market Studio trials to more than a quarter of existing customers, helping customers build automated workflows triggered by ZoomInfo signals. we expanded go-to-market studio trials to more than a quarter of existing customers helping customers build automated workflows triggered by zoominfo signals Going forward, our application layers will serve as engines for data engagement and consumption rather than standalone application seat products. As customers renew in the back half of the year, we're introducing more flexible pricing and packaging built around data access and usage. going forward our application layers will serve as engines for data engagement and consumption rather than standalone application seat products. as customers renew in the back half of the year we're introducing more flexible pricing and packaging built around data access and usage This reduces reliance on platform fees and per-seat charges, lowers the overhang from seat compression, and better aligns monetization with customer value. this reduces reliance on platform fees and per-seat charges lowers the overhang from seat compression and better aligns monetization with customer value We expect most customers to transition at similar price points, with some moving lower and some higher. we expect most customers to transition at similar price points with some moving lower and some higher While this may create a near-term revenue headwind, it gives us a cleaner model and a better opportunity to grow as customers expand their use of ZoomInfo data. while this may create a near-term revenue headwind it gives us a cleaner model and a better opportunity to grow as customers expand their use of zoominfo data Turning to customer wins, in Q1, we signed deals with Sierra, Lyft, and Wyndham Hotels and Resorts. turning to customer wins in q1 we signed deals with sierra lyft and wyndham hotels and resorts We also closed a strategic win with a unicorn cloud software company serving MSPs, displacing the incumbent and beating more than half a dozen alternatives, including an internally developed AI tool to become its core data and enrichment platform across Go-to-Market Studio and Workspace. An AI-native security and compliance platform also expanded across Studio, Copilot, and DaaS in a multiyear seven-figure TCV transaction to power its go-to-market motion. We continue to be opportunistic with the $1 billion incremental share repurchase authorization announced last quarter. We're confident in our ability to generate strong cash flow and operate the business efficiently while we execute this strategic shift. We remain committed to returning capital to shareholders in the most value-accretive way possible while ensuring we maintain long-term flexibility. With that, I'll turn the call over to Graham. We also closed a strategic win with a unicorn cloud software company serving MSPs, displacing the incumbent and beating more than half a dozen alternatives, including an internally developed AI tool to become its core data and enrichment platform across Go-to-Market Studio and Workspace. we also closed a strategic win with a unicorn cloud software company serving msps displacing the incumbent and beating more than half a dozen alternatives including an internally developed ai tool to become its core data and enrichment platform across go-to-market studio and workspace An AI-native security and compliance platform also expanded across Studio, Copilot, and DaaS in a multiyear seven-figure TCV transaction to power its go-to-market motion. an ai-native security and compliance platform also expanded across studio copilot and daas in a multiyear seven-figure tcv transaction to power its go-to-market motion We continue to be opportunistic with the $1 billion incremental share repurchase authorization announced last quarter. we continue to be opportunistic with the $1 billion incremental share repurchase authorization announced last quarter We're confident in our ability to generate strong cash flow and operate the business efficiently while we execute this strategic shift. we're confident in our ability to generate strong cash flow and operate the business efficiently while we execute this strategic shift We remain committed to returning capital to shareholders in the most value-accretive way possible while ensuring we maintain long-term flexibility. we remain committed to returning capital to shareholders in the most value-accretive way possible while ensuring we maintain long-term flexibility With that, I'll turn the call over to Graham. with that i'll turn the call over to graham
Speaker 8: Thanks, Henry. Q1 GAAP revenue was $310 million, up 1.5% year-over-year, adjusted operating income was $110 million, a margin of 35%, with both revenue and AOI coming in above the high end of the guidance ranges we provided. Unlevered free cash flow was $120 million, with $21 million in interest paid in cash during the quarter. In a seasonally slower quarter, upmarket ACV grew 5% year-over-year, a step down from 6% year-over-year growth in the fourth quarter, an improvement from 3% upmarket ACV growth in the year-ago period. Downmarket ACV declined 11% year-over-year in Q1 as compared to a decline of 10% in the fourth quarter and in the year-ago period. Thanks, Henry. thanks henry Q1 GAAP revenue was $310 million, up 1.5% year-over-year, adjusted operating income was $110 million, a margin of 35%, with both revenue and AOI coming in above the high end of the guidance ranges we provided. q1 gaap revenue was $310 million up 1.5% year-over-year adjusted operating income was $110 million a margin of 35% with both revenue and aoi coming in above the high end of the guidance ranges we provided Unlevered free cash flow was $120 million, with $21 million in interest paid in cash during the quarter. unlevered free cash flow was $120 million with $21 million in interest paid in cash during the quarter In a seasonally slower quarter, upmarket ACV grew 5% year-over-year, a step down from 6% year-over-year growth in the fourth quarter, an improvement from 3% upmarket ACV growth in the year-ago period. in a seasonally slower quarter upmarket acv grew 5% year-over-year a step down from 6% year-over-year growth in the fourth quarter an improvement from 3% upmarket acv growth in the year-ago period Downmarket ACV declined 11% year-over-year in Q1 as compared to a decline of 10% in the fourth quarter and in the year-ago period. downmarket acv declined 11% year-over-year in q1 as compared to a decline of 10% in the fourth quarter and in the year-ago period Upmarket is now 75% of our business. Customers with greater than $100,000 in ACV increased by 32 year-over-year, while decreasing 21 sequentially, and ACV from that cohort increased 10% year-over-year. As Henry highlighted, Operations had another strong quarter, with ACV growth greater than 20% year-over-year. Net revenue retention was 90% in Q1, the third quarter in a row of 90% net revenue retention. Overall, it was a solid quarter. We saw a shift in buyer behavior exiting the quarter and into Q2. Gross retention held in well overall. Customers in our software vertical experienced elevated rates of down-sell and churn relative to the improving trends we had seen in 2025. Upmarket is now 75% of our business. upmarket is now 75% of our business Customers with greater than $100,000 in ACV increased by 32 year-over-year, while decreasing 21 sequentially, and ACV from that cohort increased 10% year-over-year. customers with greater than $100,000 in acv increased by 32 year-over-year while decreasing 21 sequentially and acv from that cohort increased 10% year-over-year As Henry highlighted, Operations had another strong quarter, with ACV growth greater than 20% year-over-year. as henry highlighted operations had another strong quarter with acv growth greater than 20% year-over-year Net revenue retention was 90% in Q1, the third quarter in a row of 90% net revenue retention. net revenue retention was 90% in q1 the third quarter in a row of 90% net revenue retention Overall, it was a solid quarter. overall it was a solid quarter We saw a shift in buyer behavior exiting the quarter and into Q2. we saw a shift in buyer behavior exiting the quarter and into q2 Gross retention held in well overall. gross retention held in well overall Customers in our software vertical experienced elevated rates of down-sell and churn relative to the improving trends we had seen in 2025. customers in our software vertical experienced elevated rates of down-sell and churn relative to the improving trends we had seen in 2025 As we moved through March, we saw more customer confusion in the marketplace around what AI can and cannot do and increased macroeconomic uncertainty. With the improving trends we had seen in 2025 starting to moderate, it became clear that our growth progression was no longer on schedule and that now is the right moment to be proactive and accelerate the timeline of our strategic initiatives. We believe we can further rightsize the downmarket business, shift to a better-suited pricing model for our customers while reducing the potential overhang from further seat compression. As we consolidate global operations while largely protecting profitability in the process. Despite the near-term revenue impact, we can return to healthier growth levels sooner than a status quo approach would deliver. As we moved through March, we saw more customer confusion in the marketplace around what AI can and cannot do and increased macroeconomic uncertainty. as we moved through march we saw more customer confusion in the marketplace around what ai can and cannot do and increased macroeconomic uncertainty With the improving trends we had seen in 2025 starting to moderate, it became clear that our growth progression was no longer on schedule and that now is the right moment to be proactive and accelerate the timeline of our strategic initiatives. with the improving trends we had seen in 2025 starting to moderate it became clear that our growth progression was no longer on schedule and that now is the right moment to be proactive and accelerate the timeline of our strategic initiatives We believe we can further rightsize the downmarket business, shift to a better-suited pricing model for our customers while reducing the potential overhang from further seat compression. we believe we can further rightsize the downmarket business shift to a better-suited pricing model for our customers while reducing the potential overhang from further seat compression As we consolidate global operations while largely protecting profitability in the process. as we consolidate global operations while largely protecting profitability in the process Despite the near-term revenue impact, we can return to healthier growth levels sooner than a status quo approach would deliver. despite the near-term revenue impact we can return to healthier growth levels sooner than a status quo approach would deliver As a result, we are now guiding to FY 2026 revenue in the range of $1.185 billion-$1.205 billion. This is a proactive and prudent measure in a period of significant transition. While our initial guidance for the year did not embed upside for new product initiatives, it also did not anticipate the environment getting worse. Our updated guidance adds some incremental top-line conservatism to account for a fluctuating macroeconomic environment, as well as the potential for near-term headwinds as we execute against our strategic initiatives. We make this adjustment to our full year guidance, which we believe will help set up a new foundation over the next 12-18 months that we can ultimately begin to grow from, while at the same time committing to improved profitability outcomes. As a result, we are now guiding to FY 2026 revenue in the range of $1.185 billion-$1.205 billion. as a result we are now guiding to fy 2026 revenue in the range of $1.185 billion-$1.205 billion This is a proactive and prudent measure in a period of significant transition. this is a proactive and prudent measure in a period of significant transition While our initial guidance for the year did not embed upside for new product initiatives, it also did not anticipate the environment getting worse. while our initial guidance for the year did not embed upside for new product initiatives it also did not anticipate the environment getting worse Our updated guidance adds some incremental top-line conservatism to account for a fluctuating macroeconomic environment, as well as the potential for near-term headwinds as we execute against our strategic initiatives. our updated guidance adds some incremental top-line conservatism to account for a fluctuating macroeconomic environment as well as the potential for near-term headwinds as we execute against our strategic initiatives We make this adjustment to our full year guidance, which we believe will help set up a new foundation over the next 12- 18 months that we can ultimately begin to grow from, while at the same time committing to improved profitability outcomes. we make this adjustment to our full year guidance which we believe will help set up a new foundation over the next 12- 18 months that we can ultimately begin to grow from while at the same time committing to improved profitability outcomes We are now guiding to full-year AOI of $437 million-$447 million, and an AOI margin of 37% at the midpoint of guidance, up 130 basis points year-over-year and an improvement of 30 basis points as compared to our prior full-year guidance. As we look to operate more efficiently with a long-term focus on data and consumption, the changes announced today impact 20% of our employees or 600 team members, including closing our facilities in Israel. Israel has been an important part of our organization. While these were all difficult decisions, they reflect our commitment to operating the business in the most efficient and strategically focused way possible. We are now guiding to full-year AOI of $437 million- $447 million, and an AOI margin of 37% at the midpoint of guidance, up 130 basis points year-over-year and an improvement of 30 basis points as compared to our prior full-year guidance. we are now guiding to full-year aoi of $437 million- $447 million and an aoi margin of 37% at the midpoint of guidance up 130 basis points year-over-year and an improvement of 30 basis points as compared to our prior full-year guidance As we look to operate more efficiently with a long-term focus on data and consumption, the changes announced today impact 20% of our employees or 600 team members, including closing our facilities in Israel. as we look to operate more efficiently with a long-term focus on data and consumption the changes announced today impact 20% of our employees or 600 team members including closing our facilities in israel Israel has been an important part of our organization. israel has been an important part of our organization While these were all difficult decisions, they reflect our commitment to operating the business in the most efficient and strategically focused way possible. while these were all difficult decisions they reflect our commitment to operating the business in the most efficient and strategically focused way possible Some of the roles impacted will be hired in other regions, and some of these roles will not be replaced as we operate with a leaner, more focused organization. Across every team at ZoomInfo, we're doing more with less. With over 85% of employees actively using our internal AI operating system, AI-bolstered work is now the rule, not the exception. Whether it's shipping more code per engineer, multiples more, with fewer bugs in R&D, building custom apps in finance that replace manual processes and external spend, or building intelligent campaigns on demand in sales and marketing, AI is unlocking productivity at an unprecedented pace. As I noted last quarter, seat-based pricing contribution mix peaked in 2022, and we have progressively decreased that contribution every year since then. We expect to accelerate this transition further. Some of the roles impacted will be hired in other regions, and some of these roles will not be replaced as we operate with a leaner, more focused organization. some of the roles impacted will be hired in other regions and some of these roles will not be replaced as we operate with a leaner more focused organization Across every team at ZoomInfo, we're doing more with less. across every team at zoominfo we're doing more with less With over 85% of employees actively using our internal AI operating system, AI-bolstered work is now the rule, not the exception. with over 85% of employees actively using our internal ai operating system ai-bolstered work is now the rule not the exception Whether it's shipping more code per engineer, multiples more, with fewer bugs in R&D, building custom apps in finance that replace manual processes and external spend, or building intelligent campaigns on demand in sales and marketing, AI is unlocking productivity at an unprecedented pace. whether it's shipping more code per engineer multiples more with fewer bugs in r&d, building custom apps in finance that replace manual processes and external spend or building intelligent campaigns on demand in sales and marketing ai is unlocking productivity at an unprecedented pace As I noted last quarter, seat-based pricing contribution mix peaked in 2022, and we have progressively decreased that contribution every year since then. as i noted last quarter seat-based pricing contribution mix peaked in 2022 and we have progressively decreased that contribution every year since then We expect to accelerate this transition further. we expect to accelerate this transition further Approximately one-third of our ACV is not tied to seats, and our goal is to shift that closer to 50/50 in the next 18-24 months. We plan to roll out a hybrid pricing model later in Q3 that pairs a low annual platform fee with pre-purchase credits rather than our traditional seat-based packages. The consumption portion will be similar to how we account for ZoomInfo Operations and DaaS, selling packages of data credits to customers that will be consumed over time across any platform and counted as ACV. This is the next step in the evolution away from seat-based pricing as we build on the positive momentum from the expansion of enterprise license agreements across our largest customers. There are two long-term benefits here related to net revenue retention. Approximately one-third of our ACV is not tied to seats, and our goal is to shift that closer to 50/50 in the next 18- 24 months. approximately one-third of our acv is not tied to seats and our goal is to shift that closer to 50/50 in the next 18- 24 months We plan to roll out a hybrid pricing model later in Q3 that pairs a low annual platform fee with pre-purchase credits rather than our traditional seat-based packages. we plan to roll out a hybrid pricing model later in q3 that pairs a low annual platform fee with pre-purchase credits rather than our traditional seat-based packages The consumption portion will be similar to how we account for ZoomInfo Operations and DaaS, selling packages of data credits to customers that will be consumed over time across any platform and counted as ACV. the consumption portion will be similar to how we account for zoominfo operations and daas selling packages of data credits to customers that will be consumed over time across any platform and counted as acv This is the next step in the evolution away from seat-based pricing as we build on the positive momentum from the expansion of enterprise license agreements across our largest customers. this is the next step in the evolution away from seat-based pricing as we build on the positive momentum from the expansion of enterprise license agreements across our largest customers There are two long-term benefits here related to net revenue retention. there are two long-term benefits here related to net revenue retention Less down-sell pressure coming from seat compression, while at the same time data consumption trends increase over time, generating upsell opportunity leading to improved NRR outcomes. This shift to consumption introduces some variability in revenue recognition, driven by the timing of credit consumption relative to credit allowances. This dynamic is reflected in our revised revenue guidance. As part of this evolution, we are eliminating more down-market sales resources, shifting down-market almost exclusively to product-led growth, enabling us to further accelerate the shift up market while we expand our focus on data. A result of these actions, we expect restructuring costs of $45 million-$60 million, the majority of which are cash costs and expected to be incurred in Q2 and Q3 2026. Less down-sell pressure coming from seat compression, while at the same time data consumption trends increase over time, generating upsell opportunity leading to improved NRR outcomes. less down-sell pressure coming from seat compression while at the same time data consumption trends increase over time generating upsell opportunity leading to improved nrr outcomes This shift to consumption introduces some variability in revenue recognition, driven by the timing of credit consumption relative to credit allowances. this shift to consumption introduces some variability in revenue recognition driven by the timing of credit consumption relative to credit allowances This dynamic is reflected in our revised revenue guidance. this dynamic is reflected in our revised revenue guidance As part of this evolution, we are eliminating more down-market sales resources, shifting down-market almost exclusively to product-led growth, enabling us to further accelerate the shift up market while we expand our focus on data. as part of this evolution we are eliminating more down-market sales resources shifting down-market almost exclusively to product-led growth enabling us to further accelerate the shift up market while we expand our focus on data A result of these actions, we expect restructuring costs of $45 million-$60 million, the majority of which are cash costs and expected to be incurred in Q2 and Q3 2026. a result of these actions we expect restructuring costs of $45 million-$60 million the majority of which are cash costs and expected to be incurred in q2 and q3 2026 We expect to reduce annual run rate operating expenses by approximately $60 million with the actions, including restructuring the entirety of our Israeli operations, largely complete by Q1 of 2027. The majority of transitionary compensation costs from notification date through the completion of the discontinuation of operations in Israel will be added back for purposes of calculating our non-GAAP metrics. As we absorb these restructuring costs, our cash position and our underlying cash generation remain strong. Turning to cash in the period, GAAP operating cash flow was $115 million in Q1. Unlevered free cash flow for the quarter was $120 million, 109% conversion from adjusted operating income, and representing a margin of 39%. We expect to reduce annual run rate operating expenses by approximately $60 million with the actions, including restructuring the entirety of our Israeli operations, largely complete by Q1 of 2027. we expect to reduce annual run rate operating expenses by approximately $60 million with the actions including restructuring the entirety of our israeli operations largely complete by q1 of 2027 The majority of transitionary compensation costs from notification date through the completion of the discontinuation of operations in Israel will be added back for purposes of calculating our non-GAAP metrics. the majority of transitionary compensation costs from notification date through the completion of the discontinuation of operations in israel will be added back for purposes of calculating our non-gaap metrics As we absorb these restructuring costs, our cash position and our underlying cash generation remain strong. as we absorb these restructuring costs our cash position and our underlying cash generation remain strong Turning to cash in the period, GAAP operating cash flow was $115 million in Q1. turning to cash in the period gaap operating cash flow was $115 million in q1 Unlevered free cash flow for the quarter was $120 million, 109% conversion from adjusted operating income, and representing a margin of 39%. unlevered free cash flow for the quarter was $120 million 109% conversion from adjusted operating income and representing a margin of 39% GAAP stock-based compensation expense was $25.5 million, down 14% year-over-year, and representing 8% of revenue. As a percentage of revenue, adjusted expenses combined with stock-based compensation improved 5 points year-over-year, reflecting a significant improvement to the quality of our earnings. We continue to prioritize performance-based compensation for cash and equity compensation with achieving rigorous free cash flow objectives. In Q1, we repurchased 13.1 million shares of common stock at an average price of $6.91 for an aggregate $90 million. Inclusive of the repurchase authorization announced in February, we had more than $1 billion in remaining repurchase capacity at the end of the quarter. GAAP stock-based compensation expense was $25.5 million, down 14% year-over-year, and representing 8% of revenue. gaap stock-based compensation expense was $25.5 million down 14% year-over-year and representing 8% of revenue As a percentage of revenue, adjusted expenses combined with stock-based compensation improved 5 points year-over-year, reflecting a significant improvement to the quality of our earnings. as a percentage of revenue adjusted expenses combined with stock-based compensation improved 5 points year-over-year reflecting a significant improvement to the quality of our earnings We continue to prioritize performance-based compensation for cash and equity compensation with achieving rigorous free cash flow objectives. we continue to prioritize performance-based compensation for cash and equity compensation with achieving rigorous free cash flow objectives In Q1, we repurchased 13.1 million shares of common stock at an average price of $6.91 for an aggregate $90 million. in q1 we repurchased 13.1 million shares of common stock at an average price of $6.91 for an aggregate $90 million Inclusive of the repurchase authorization announced in February, we had more than $1 billion in remaining repurchase capacity at the end of the quarter. inclusive of the repurchase authorization announced in february we had more than $1 billion in remaining repurchase capacity at the end of the quarter Weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the quarter used in calculating non-GAAP diluted earnings per share was 318 million, and the non-GAAP share count exiting the quarter was 310 million. We ended the quarter with $175 million in cash equivalents, and investments, and we carried $1.3 billion in gross debt. As a result, our net leverage ratio is both 2.4x trailing twelve-months adjusted EBITDA and 2.4x trailing twelve-months cash EBITDA, which is defined as consolidated EBITDA in our credit agreements, as compared to 2.5x and 2.3x in the year-ago period. The $650 million in senior notes mature in 2029, and $581 million first lien term loan matures in 2030. Weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the quarter used in calculating non-GAAP diluted earnings per share was 318 million, and the non-GAAP share count exiting the quarter was 310 million. weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the quarter used in calculating non-gaap diluted earnings per share was 318 million and the non-gaap share count exiting the quarter was 310 million We ended the quarter with $175 million in cash equivalents, and investments, and we carried $1.3 billion in gross debt. we ended the quarter with $175 million in cash equivalents and investments and we carried $1.3 billion in gross debt As a result, our net leverage ratio is both 2.4 x trailing twelve-months adjusted EBITDA and 2.4 x trailing twelve-months cash EBITDA, which is defined as consolidated EBITDA in our credit agreements, as compared to 2.5x and 2.3 x in the year-ago period. as a result our net leverage ratio is both 2.4 x trailing twelve-months adjusted ebitda and 2.4 x trailing twelve-months cash ebitda which is defined as consolidated ebitda in our credit agreements as compared to 2.5x and 2.3 x in the year-ago period The $650 million in senior notes mature in 2029, and $581 million first lien term loan matures in 2030. the $650 million in senior notes mature in 2029 and $581 million first lien term loan matures in 2030 We are comfortable with our current maturity profile, and we have sufficient liquidity and cash generation to manage our obligations as they come due. During the quarter, we entered into interest rate swap to fix a portion of our variable rate debt. We executed $425 million of notional interest rate swaps at a blended fixed rate of 3.28%, reducing our exposure to SOFR volatility while providing greater visibility into interest expense and free cash flow. Following the close of the quarter, we amended our revolving credit facility to increase total commitments from $250 million-$276 million, with U.S. Bank joining the lender group through an incremental commitment of $26 million. No additional borrowings were made in connection with the amendment. We are comfortable with our current maturity profile, and we have sufficient liquidity and cash generation to manage our obligations as they come due. we are comfortable with our current maturity profile and we have sufficient liquidity and cash generation to manage our obligations as they come due During the quarter, we entered into interest rate swap to fix a portion of our variable rate debt. during the quarter we entered into interest rate swap to fix a portion of our variable rate debt We executed $425 million of notional interest rate swaps at a blended fixed rate of 3.28%, reducing our exposure to SOFR volatility while providing greater visibility into interest expense and free cash flow. we executed $425 million of notional interest rate swaps at a blended fixed rate of 3.28% reducing our exposure to sofr volatility while providing greater visibility into interest expense and free cash flow Following the close of the quarter, we amended our revolving credit facility to increase total commitments from $250 million- $276 million, with U.S. following the close of the quarter we amended our revolving credit facility to increase total commitments from $250 million- $276 million with u.s Bank joining the lender group through an incremental commitment of $26 million. bank joining the lender group through an incremental commitment of $26 million No additional borrowings were made in connection with the amendment. no additional borrowings were made in connection with the amendment The upsizing expands and diversifies the lending group while providing additional liquidity capacity. With respect to liabilities and future performance obligations, unearned revenue at the end of the quarter was $479 million, and remaining performance obligations or RPO were $1.18 billion, of which $861 million are expected to be recognized in the next 12 months. Shifting to guidance for Q2, we expect GAAP revenue in the range of $300 million-$303 million. Adjusted operating income in the range of $103 million-$106 million. Non-GAAP net income in the range of $0.26-$0.28 per share. The upsizing expands and diversifies the lending group while providing additional liquidity capacity. the upsizing expands and diversifies the lending group while providing additional liquidity capacity With respect to liabilities and future performance obligations, unearned revenue at the end of the quarter was $479 million, and remaining performance obligations or RPO were $1.18 billion, of which $861 million are expected to be recognized in the next 12 months. Shifting to guidance for Q2, we expect GAAP revenue in the range of $300 million-$303 million. with respect to liabilities and future performance obligations unearned revenue at the end of the quarter was $479 million and remaining performance obligations or rpo were $1.18 billion of which $861 million are expected to be recognized in the next 12 months. shifting to guidance for q2 we expect gaap revenue in the range of $300 million-$303 million Adjusted operating income in the range of $103 million-$106 million. adjusted operating income in the range of $103 million-$106 million Non-GAAP net income in the range of $0.26-$0.28 per share. non-gaap net income in the range of $0.26-$0.28 per share For the full year 2026, we now expect GAAP revenue in the range of $1.185 billion-$1.205 billion, representing a 4% year-over-year decline at the midpoint of guidance. An adjusted operating income in the range of $437 million-$447 million, representing a 37% margin at the midpoint of guidance, up 130 basis points year-over-year. We expect non-GAAP net income in the range of $1.10-$1.12 per share, consistent with our prior guidance based on 315 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding. We expect unlevered free cash flow in the range of $400 million-$420 million. For the full year 2026, we now expect GAAP revenue in the range of $1.185 billion-$1.205 billion, representing a 4% year-over-year decline at the midpoint of guidance. for the full year 2026 we now expect gaap revenue in the range of $1.185 billion-$1.205 billion representing a 4% year-over-year decline at the midpoint of guidance An adjusted operating income in the range of $437 million-$447 million, representing a 37% margin at the midpoint of guidance, up 130 basis points year-over-year. an adjusted operating income in the range of $437 million-$447 million representing a 37% margin at the midpoint of guidance up 130 basis points year-over-year We expect non-GAAP net income in the range of $1.10-$1.12 per share, consistent with our prior guidance based on 315 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding. we expect non-gaap net income in the range of $1.10-$1.12 per share consistent with our prior guidance based on 315 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding We expect unlevered free cash flow in the range of $400 million-$420 million. we expect unlevered free cash flow in the range of $400 million-$420 million I would expect a non-GAAP tax rate of closer to 10% in 2026 and cash interest expense in the range of $60 million-$62 million. We believe the actions and initiatives announced today will set us up to run rates at least $1.25 of adjusted levered free cash flow per share as we enter 2027 across a range of revenue growth and share repurchase scenarios. Now I will turn it over to the operator to open the call for questions. I would expect a non-GAAP tax rate of closer to 10% in 2026 and cash interest expense in the range of $60 million-$62 million. i would expect a non-gaap tax rate of closer to 10% in 2026 and cash interest expense in the range of $60 million-$62 million We believe the actions and initiatives announced today will set us up to run rates at least $1.25 of adjusted levered free cash flow per share as we enter 2027 across a range of revenue growth and share repurchase scenarios. we believe the actions and initiatives announced today will set us up to run rates at least $1.25 of adjusted levered free cash flow per share as we enter 2027 across a range of revenue growth and share repurchase scenarios Now I will turn it over to the operator to open the call for questions. now i will turn it over to the operator to open the call for questions
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Speaker 12: Thank you very much. Henry, I'm wondering how big of a spread do you see in the demand patterns out there if you compare the software vertical up against traditional industries that might not have as much of a terminal value discussion occurring at the moment? I have a quick follow-up. Thank you very much. thank you very much Henry, I'm wondering how big of a spread do you see in the demand patterns out there if you compare the software vertical up against traditional industries that might not have as much of a terminal value discussion occurring at the moment? henry i'm wondering how big of a spread do you see in the demand patterns out there if you compare the software vertical up against traditional industries that might not have as much of a terminal value discussion occurring at the moment I have a quick follow-up. i have a quick follow-up
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can take that one, Mark. You know, we saw about, you know, almost two years of sequential improvement to retention in software, and that was flat in Q1, and that's a big data point as we, you know, consider that in the outlook in the guidance revision. When I look at other verticals that are, you know, potentially not having the terminal question, I look at finance, insurance, real estate, manufacturing, telecom. We had really solid quarters there where we continue to see really promising growth possibility. Yeah, I can take that one, Mark. yeah i can take that one mark You know, we saw about, you know, almost two years of sequential improvement to retention in software, and that was flat in Q1, and that's a big data point as we, you know, consider that in the outlook in the guidance revision. you know we saw about you know almost two years of sequential improvement to retention in software and that was flat in q1 and that's a big data point as we you know consider that in the outlook in the guidance revision When I look at other verticals that are, you know, potentially not having the terminal question, I look at finance, insurance, real estate, manufacturing, telecom. when i look at other verticals that are you know potentially not having the terminal question i look at finance insurance real estate manufacturing telecom We had really solid quarters there where we continue to see really promising growth possibility. we had really solid quarters there where we continue to see really promising growth possibility
Speaker 12: Okay. It's a very software-centric kind of situation, it sounds like. I'm curious as well, just how much of the AI confusion you're seeing would you relate to the takeoff of Claude Code during the month of March? I think that's when you saw, you know, a bit of a shift, and that seemed to be the period of liftoff for Claude Code. Just as a corollary, any thought on how long the that period of AI confusion might last? Okay. okay It's a very software-centric kind of situation, it sounds like. it's a very software-centric kind of situation it sounds like I'm curious as well, just how much of the AI confusion you're seeing would you relate to the takeoff of Claude Code during the month of March? i'm curious as well just how much of the ai confusion you're seeing would you relate to the takeoff of claude code during the month of march I think that's when you saw, you know, a bit of a shift, and that seemed to be the period of liftoff for Claude Code. i think that's when you saw you know a bit of a shift and that seemed to be the period of liftoff for claude code Just as a corollary, any thought on how long the that period of AI confusion might last? just as a corollary any thought on how long the that period of ai confusion might last
Speaker 9: Yeah. I think the big shift here is, even in our most sophisticated software clients, what we're seeing them shift away from is a seat license in ZoomInfo and shift to significantly more consumption of our data inside of Claude with our MCPs through our APIs. We have a number of examples of AI native companies who have shifted from seats but are spending meaningfully more with us through consumption of our data in their internal applications that they've built, through our MCPs, through our APIs, through bulk credit consumption. We have a lot of confidence that there's this moment where companies are confused about what they actually need to be able to build their own internal applications, to build their own revenue workflows, where the most sophisticated AI native companies are leveraging our data throughout that entire workflow. Yeah. yeah I think the big shift here is, even in our most sophisticated software clients, what we're seeing them shift away from is a seat license in ZoomInfo and shift to significantly more consumption of our data inside of Claude with our MCPs through our APIs. i think the big shift here is even in our most sophisticated software clients what we're seeing them shift away from is a seat license in zoominfo and shift to significantly more consumption of our data inside of claude with our mcps through our apis We have a number of examples of AI native companies who have shifted from seats but are spending meaningfully more with us through consumption of our data in their internal applications that they've built, through our MCPs, through our APIs, through bulk credit consumption. we have a number of examples of ai native companies who have shifted from seats but are spending meaningfully more with us through consumption of our data in their internal applications that they've built through our mcps through our apis through bulk credit consumption We have a lot of confidence that there's this moment where companies are confused about what they actually need to be able to build their own internal applications, to build their own revenue workflows, where the most sophisticated AI native companies are leveraging our data throughout that entire workflow. we have a lot of confidence that there's this moment where companies are confused about what they actually need to be able to build their own internal applications to build their own revenue workflows where the most sophisticated ai native companies are leveraging our data throughout that entire workflow Companies that are doing sort of quick AI projects have not made that realization yet. We are positioning the company from a pricing and packaging perspective to take advantage of that situation so that when we talk to a customer who tells us, "I don't need seats anymore because I've built my own application," that we can be really flexible and say, "Look, your own application is gonna need contact information, it's gonna need company information, it's gonna need hierarchy information, it's gonna need signal information, and we can be really flexible on your transition over to that as you build your own internal application. Companies that are doing sort of quick AI projects have not made that realization yet. companies that are doing sort of quick ai projects have not made that realization yet We are positioning the company from a pricing and packaging perspective to take advantage of that situation so that when we talk to a customer who tells us, "I don't need seats anymore because I've built my own application," that we can be really flexible and say, "Look, your own application is gonna need contact information, it's gonna need company information, it's gonna need hierarchy information, it's gonna need signal information, and we can be really flexible on your transition over to that as you build your own internal application. we are positioning the company from a pricing and packaging perspective to take advantage of that situation so that when we talk to a customer who tells us "i don't need seats anymore because i've built my own application," that we can be really flexible and say "look your own application is gonna need contact information it's gonna need company information it's gonna need hierarchy information it's gonna need signal information and we can be really flexible on your transition over to that as you build your own internal application
Speaker 12: Understood. Thank you very much. Understood. understood Thank you very much. thank you very much
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Speaker 18: Hi. Thanks so much for taking my questions. First one would just be on, when we look at the customers with greater than a 100K deal sizes that fell quarter-over-quarter, I know you mentioned earlier that you're seeing, you know, customers pause in light of this, but could you comment on, you know, some of these larger customer dynamics with that KPI and then also too with CRPO declining quarter-over-quarter? Maybe you could just comment on, you know, what exactly you're seeing amongst like this larger cohort of customers. Hi. hi Thanks so much for taking my questions. thanks so much for taking my questions First one would just be on, when we look at the customers with greater than a 100K deal sizes that fell quarter-over-quarter, I know you mentioned earlier that you're seeing, you know, customers pause in light of this, but could you comment on, you know, some of these larger customer dynamics with that KPI and then also too with CRPO declining quarter-over-quarter? first one would just be on when we look at the customers with greater than a 100k deal sizes that fell quarter-over-quarter i know you mentioned earlier that you're seeing you know customers pause in light of this but could you comment on you know some of these larger customer dynamics with that kpi and then also too with crpo declining quarter-over-quarter Maybe you could just comment on, you know, what exactly you're seeing amongst like this larger cohort of customers. maybe you could just comment on you know what exactly you're seeing amongst like this larger cohort of customers
Speaker 8: Sure. You know, on the 100K, the activity in the 100K logo was a good microcosm of the quarter for the full business. There are four ways logos can enter or exit that cohort. You can buy in new from zero, you can enter via upsell, you can downsell out, you can churn altogether. When we look at Q1 this year versus Q1 last year, our performance improved or held flat across three of these entry and exit points. We sold in more new logos. We had significantly fewer downsell out, and we had about the same that churned altogether, which is a pretty low number. The upsell in is where we saw the significant decrease year over year, and that's representative of the challenges we saw around incremental purchases near the end of the quarter. Sure. sure You know, on the 100K, the activity in the 100K logo was a good microcosm of the quarter for the full business. you know on the 100k the activity in the 100k logo was a good microcosm of the quarter for the full business There are four ways logos can enter or exit that cohort. You can buy in new from zero, you can enter via upsell, you can downsell out, you can churn altogether. there are four ways logos can enter or exit that cohort. you can buy in new from zero you can enter via upsell you can downsell out you can churn altogether When we look at Q1 this year versus Q1 last year, our performance improved or held flat across three of these entry and exit points. when we look at q1 this year versus q1 last year our performance improved or held flat across three of these entry and exit points We sold in more new logos. we sold in more new logos We had significantly fewer downsell out, and we had about the same that churned altogether, which is a pretty low number. we had significantly fewer downsell out and we had about the same that churned altogether which is a pretty low number The upsell in is where we saw the significant decrease year over year, and that's representative of the challenges we saw around incremental purchases near the end of the quarter. the upsell in is where we saw the significant decrease year over year and that's representative of the challenges we saw around incremental purchases near the end of the quarter On CRPO, you know, it's up 3% year-over-year in a slower Q1. I don't think that that outcome was really outside of our range of expectations. On CRPO, you know, it's up 3% year-over-year in a slower Q1. on crpo you know it's up 3% year-over-year in a slower q1 I don't think that that outcome was really outside of our range of expectations. i don't think that that outcome was really outside of our range of expectations
Speaker 18: Great. Thanks. Then maybe, you know, going back to the pricing model change that you guys commented earlier, I think the comment was that you expect customers to renew under the new model at a similar deal size as compared to the old model. Can you just give us, you know, some proof points if you've had, you know, customers that have made, you know, that transition already under Operations, you know, as in what you've seen there, that's giving you guys, you know, that comfort, in this kinda net neutral positioning as we move to the new model? Great. great Thanks. thanks Then maybe, you know, going back to the pricing model change that you guys commented earlier, I think the comment was that you expect customers to renew under the new model at a similar deal size as compared to the old model. then maybe you know going back to the pricing model change that you guys commented earlier i think the comment was that you expect customers to renew under the new model at a similar deal size as compared to the old model Can you just give us, you know, some proof points if you've had, you know, customers that have made, you know, that transition already under Operations, you know, as in what you've seen there, that's giving you guys, you know, that comfort, in this kinda net neutral positioning as we move to the new model? can you just give us you know some proof points if you've had you know customers that have made you know that transition already under operations you know as in what you've seen there that's giving you guys you know that comfort in this kinda net neutral positioning as we move to the new model
Speaker 8: Yeah. We tested this with a number of our customers, and what we're seeing is two things. Some customers, it's pretty similar price points as they shipped away from seats. You're gonna see some customers shift up, you'll see some customers shift down, and it's largely based on how much they're consuming our data. For down-market users, we're gonna eliminate the access friction by moving away from term platform fees and seat floors, tying price much closer to value. Larger customers should expect simpler pricing and a less siloed product experience where their credits are purchased and then consumed really anywhere, inside of ZoomInfo applications or outside of ZoomInfo applications. We're seeing some up, some down, and we think it ends sort of net positively. Yeah. yeah We tested this with a number of our customers, and what we're seeing is two things. we tested this with a number of our customers and what we're seeing is two things Some customers, it's pretty similar price points as they shipped away from seats. some customers it's pretty similar price points as they shipped away from seats You're gonna see some customers shift up, you'll see some customers shift down, and it's largely based on how much they're consuming our data. you're gonna see some customers shift up you'll see some customers shift down and it's largely based on how much they're consuming our data For down-market users, we're gonna eliminate the access friction by moving away from term platform fees and seat floors, tying price much closer to value. for down-market users we're gonna eliminate the access friction by moving away from term platform fees and seat floors tying price much closer to value Larger customers should expect simpler pricing and a less siloed product experience where their credits are purchased and then consumed really anywhere, inside of ZoomInfo applications or outside of ZoomInfo applications. larger customers should expect simpler pricing and a less siloed product experience where their credits are purchased and then consumed really anywhere inside of zoominfo applications or outside of zoominfo applications We're seeing some up, some down, and we think it ends sort of net positively. we're seeing some up some down and we think it ends sort of net positively
Speaker 18: Great. Thank you so much. Great. great Thank you so much. thank you so much
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Speaker 11: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I'm on for Sanjit Singh. With software demand exiting March and April, especially in software, should we think about Q2 as the growth trough? What needs to improve for you guys to get comfortable with the back half of the year? Hey, guys. hey guys Thanks for taking my question. thanks for taking my question I'm on for Sanjit Singh. i'm on for sanjit singh With software demand exiting March and April, especially in software, should we think about Q2 as the growth trough? with software demand exiting march and april especially in software should we think about q2 as the growth trough What needs to improve for you guys to get comfortable with the back half of the year? what needs to improve for you guys to get comfortable with the back half of the year
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I look at it through some of the, maybe some of the leading indicators. Certainly, we've guided Q2 revenue to be down year-over-year. I think what we're really focused on is setting an expectation level that's going to allow us to accelerate these strategic initiatives in the back half of the year. As we do shift more towards consumption, as we do right-size our down-market business to be more PLG or essentially almost exclusively PLG-focused, that we, you know, we do go through a few quarters there where we do flip negative before getting back to, you know, more opportunity for positive year-over-year growth in the back half of 2027. Yeah, you know, I look at it through some of the, maybe some of the leading indicators. yeah you know i look at it through some of the maybe some of the leading indicators Certainly, we've guided Q2 revenue to be down year-over-year. certainly we've guided q2 revenue to be down year-over-year I think what we're really focused on is setting an expectation level that's going to allow us to accelerate these strategic initiatives in the back half of the year. i think what we're really focused on is setting an expectation level that's going to allow us to accelerate these strategic initiatives in the back half of the year As we do shift more towards consumption, as we do right-size our down-market business to be more PLG or essentially almost exclusively PLG-focused, that we, you know, we do go through a few quarters there where we do flip negative before getting back to, you know, more opportunity for positive year-over-year growth in the back half of 2027. as we do shift more towards consumption as we do right-size our down-market business to be more plg or essentially almost exclusively plg-focused that we you know we do go through a few quarters there where we do flip negative before getting back to you know more opportunity for positive year-over-year growth in the back half of 2027
Speaker 9: I think the other thing that is worth pinning here is the bulk of the cut is deliberate, and it's down-market oriented. We're doing that and accelerating the transition here because we're clearly seeing the opportunity for consumption across a number of surface areas in our business more clearly. Our customers who are on Go-to-Market Studio are consuming significantly more than their counterparts not on Studio. Our customers in our MCP application that were really released over the last eight weeks are meaningful consumers of our data through the LLM platforms that our MCPs are plugged into. I think the big milestones are we need to put more of our customers into these high consumption interfaces, and that's our strategic focus right now. I think the other thing that is worth pinning here is the bulk of the cut is deliberate, and it's down-market oriented. i think the other thing that is worth pinning here is the bulk of the cut is deliberate and it's down-market oriented We're doing that and accelerating the transition here because we're clearly seeing the opportunity for consumption across a number of surface areas in our business more clearly. we're doing that and accelerating the transition here because we're clearly seeing the opportunity for consumption across a number of surface areas in our business more clearly Our customers who are on Go-to-Market Studio are consuming significantly more than their counterparts not on Studio. our customers who are on go-to-market studio are consuming significantly more than their counterparts not on studio Our customers in our MCP application that were really released over the last eight weeks are meaningful consumers of our data through the LLM platforms that our MCPs are plugged into. our customers in our mcp application that were really released over the last eight weeks are meaningful consumers of our data through the llm platforms that our mcps are plugged into I think the big milestones are we need to put more of our customers into these high consumption interfaces, and that's our strategic focus right now. i think the big milestones are we need to put more of our customers into these high consumption interfaces and that's our strategic focus right now
Speaker 11: Got it. Just one more, if I may. Thinking about profitability as inference costs keep going up, how should we think about, you know, as you guys scale the business and customers continue to consume, how the profitability picture will look in the coming years? Got it. got it Just one more, if I may. just one more if i may Thinking about profitability as inference costs keep going up, how should we think about, you know, as you guys scale the business and customers continue to consume, how the profitability picture will look in the coming years? thinking about profitability as inference costs keep going up how should we think about you know as you guys scale the business and customers continue to consume how the profitability picture will look in the coming years
Speaker 8: Look, when I look at the pro forma view of the business exiting this year, I think that when we return to growth, we'll, on a more consistent basis, we're going to have an opportunity to do so as a 40% margin company instead of a 35% margin company. When I break that down, I expect cost of service is still probably 13%-14% of revenue, but sales and marketing is closer to 27% with a path down to 25%. R&D is steady around 10% with a path lower, and G&A at 10% with a path lower. The business will be primed to deliver 40% margins with that return to growth, and the initiatives we announced today were a big part of that. Look, when I look at the pro forma view of the business exiting this year, I think that when we return to growth, we'll, on a more consistent basis, we're going to have an opportunity to do so as a 40% margin company instead of a 35% margin company. look when i look at the pro forma view of the business exiting this year i think that when we return to growth we'll on a more consistent basis we're going to have an opportunity to do so as a 40% margin company instead of a 35% margin company When I break that down, I expect cost of service is still probably 13%-14% of revenue, but sales and marketing is closer to 27% with a path down to 25%. when i break that down i expect cost of service is still probably 13%-14% of revenue but sales and marketing is closer to 27% with a path down to 25% R&D is steady around 10% with a path lower, and G&A at 10% with a path lower. r&d is steady around 10% with a path lower and g&a at 10% with a path lower The business will be primed to deliver 40% margins with that return to growth, and the initiatives we announced today were a big part of that. the business will be primed to deliver 40% margins with that return to growth and the initiatives we announced today were a big part of that
Speaker 11: Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. thanks guys
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Speaker 4: Great. Thanks so much for taking the question. I guess my question, how much does the updated guidance, Graham, reflect the hesitation in downsell that you saw in Q1 continuing throughout the remainder of the year versus the impact of moving to consumption style deals? Can you remind us the rev rec on those consumption deals? Great. great Thanks so much for taking the question. thanks so much for taking the question I guess my question, how much does the updated guidance, Graham, reflect the hesitation in downsell that you saw in Q1 continuing throughout the remainder of the year versus the impact of moving to consumption style deals? i guess my question how much does the updated guidance graham reflect the hesitation in downsell that you saw in q1 continuing throughout the remainder of the year versus the impact of moving to consumption style deals Can you remind us the rev rec on those consumption deals? can you remind us the rev rec on those consumption deals
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, as we proactively change how the business is structured and how we price and deliver, we're accounting for all of that. We're accounting for the down-market restructuring, the shift towards or away from seats in the pricing model. My guidance philosophy is shifting as part of that too, and that we need to rely more on future assumptions around the evolving pricing model and less on past performance to inform our models. We've embedded conservative assumptions around the macro, the software vertical, and the shift in pricing model away from seats. It's safe to say that our guidance for Q2 and the rest of the year takes a more cautious approach than it did in Q1. Our updated guidance fully accounts for the existing conditions and the planned timing of our strategic initiatives. Yeah, you know, as we proactively change how the business is structured and how we price and deliver, we're accounting for all of that. yeah you know as we proactively change how the business is structured and how we price and deliver we're accounting for all of that We're accounting for the down-market restructuring, the shift towards or away from seats in the pricing model. we're accounting for the down-market restructuring the shift towards or away from seats in the pricing model My guidance philosophy is shifting as part of that too, and that we need to rely more on future assumptions around the evolving pricing model and less on past performance to inform our models. my guidance philosophy is shifting as part of that too and that we need to rely more on future assumptions around the evolving pricing model and less on past performance to inform our models We've embedded conservative assumptions around the macro, the software vertical, and the shift in pricing model away from seats. we've embedded conservative assumptions around the macro the software vertical and the shift in pricing model away from seats It's safe to say that our guidance for Q2 and the rest of the year takes a more cautious approach than it did in Q1. it's safe to say that our guidance for q2 and the rest of the year takes a more cautious approach than it did in q1 Our updated guidance fully accounts for the existing conditions and the planned timing of our strategic initiatives. our updated guidance fully accounts for the existing conditions and the planned timing of our strategic initiatives You should think about this as a full measure revision. This is very much a proactive plan that we have a lot of confidence will deliver us to a place of more durable, efficient growth sooner than the status quo. On the, on the revenue accounting implications of this shift, look, first, customers are pulling us in this direction. We're already a big part of the way there, but there will be new revenue accounting dynamics that come along with it. I don't expect ACV scope to change, but customers on more variable consumption-focused plans will still roll up into that ACV number. From a technical perspective, with pre-committed consumption, we'll need to make an assumption around breakage and then predict and monitor customer usage patterns to match the satisfaction of performers' obligation. You should think about this as a full measure revision. you should think about this as a full measure revision This is very much a proactive plan that we have a lot of confidence will deliver us to a place of more durable, efficient growth sooner than the status quo. this is very much a proactive plan that we have a lot of confidence will deliver us to a place of more durable efficient growth sooner than the status quo On the, on the revenue accounting implications of this shift, look, first, customers are pulling us in this direction. on the on the revenue accounting implications of this shift look first customers are pulling us in this direction We're already a big part of the way there, but there will be new revenue accounting dynamics that come along with it. we're already a big part of the way there but there will be new revenue accounting dynamics that come along with it I don't expect ACV scope to change, but customers on more variable consumption-focused plans will still roll up into that ACV number. i don't expect acv scope to change but customers on more variable consumption-focused plans will still roll up into that acv number From a technical perspective, with pre-committed consumption, we'll need to make an assumption around breakage and then predict and monitor customer usage patterns to match the satisfaction of performers' obligation. from a technical perspective with pre-committed consumption we'll need to make an assumption around breakage and then predict and monitor customer usage patterns to match the satisfaction of performers' obligation What that means is that could introduce some quarter-to-quarter noise in revenue recognition, which again, we've accounted for in the updated guidance. What that means is that could introduce some quarter-to-quarter noise in revenue recognition, which again, we've accounted for in the updated guidance. what that means is that could introduce some quarter-to-quarter noise in revenue recognition which again we've accounted for in the updated guidance
Speaker 4: That's very comprehensive answer. Thank you for that, Graham. Maybe just one follow-up for you, Henry. I feel like, you know, from the very beginnings of covering ZoomInfo since the IPO, the one thing that hasn't changed is the quality of your data asset, and that really stands out above all else that's out there on the market. Can you just once again, for us, I know you said a lot about it, but it wouldn't hurt to hear you know, to what do they say? Repetition doesn't ruin the prayer. Would love to hear more about why, given how unique and comprehensive your data asset is, that you're not able to perhaps better weather this moment and whatever you can tell us to just really bring that point home would really be helpful. Thank you. That's very comprehensive answer. that's very comprehensive answer Thank you for that, Graham. thank you for that graham Maybe just one follow-up for you, Henry. maybe just one follow-up for you henry I feel like, you know, from the very beginnings of covering ZoomInfo since the IPO, the one thing that hasn't changed is the quality of your data asset, and that really stands out above all else that's out there on the market. i feel like you know from the very beginnings of covering zoominfo since the ipo the one thing that hasn't changed is the quality of your data asset and that really stands out above all else that's out there on the market Can you just once again, for us, I know you said a lot about it, but it wouldn't hurt to hear you know, to what do they say? can you just once again for us i know you said a lot about it but it wouldn't hurt to hear you know to what do they say Repetition doesn't ruin the prayer. repetition doesn't ruin the prayer Would love to hear more about why, given how unique and comprehensive your data asset is, that you're not able to perhaps better weather this moment and whatever you can tell us to just really bring that point home would really be helpful. would love to hear more about why given how unique and comprehensive your data asset is that you're not able to perhaps better weather this moment and whatever you can tell us to just really bring that point home would really be helpful Thank you. thank you
Speaker 9: Yeah. I think the biggest thing for us today is that our data asset has historically been trapped underneath a SaaS application, which obviously for the first 18, 19 years of our operating history, was exactly where our customers wanted to consume it. Really over the last 12 months, customers have been more inclined to want our data asset to be flexible and available throughout a number of other interfaces. We've always had an API, it was mainly deployed at really high sophisticated, highest end of our strategic customers. That could have been done with a lot of hand-holding. In today's world, the agent Claude needs to just understand our API documentation and plug it in seamlessly without ever having to talk to a human. Yeah. yeah I think the biggest thing for us today is that our data asset has historically been trapped underneath a SaaS application, which obviously for the first 18, 19 years of our operating history, was exactly where our customers wanted to consume it. i think the biggest thing for us today is that our data asset has historically been trapped underneath a saas application which obviously for the first 18 19 years of our operating history was exactly where our customers wanted to consume it Really over the last 12 months, customers have been more inclined to want our data asset to be flexible and available throughout a number of other interfaces. really over the last 12 months customers have been more inclined to want our data asset to be flexible and available throughout a number of other interfaces We've always had an API, it was mainly deployed at really high sophisticated, highest end of our strategic customers. we've always had an api it was mainly deployed at really high sophisticated highest end of our strategic customers That could have been done with a lot of hand-holding. that could have been done with a lot of hand-holding In today's world, the agent Claude needs to just understand our API documentation and plug it in seamlessly without ever having to talk to a human. in today's world the agent claude needs to just understand our api documentation and plug it in seamlessly without ever having to talk to a human We've spent really the last 18 months rebuilding the data infrastructure that delivers that data anywhere that a customer wants it. If you wanted intent data, you know, a year ago, you would have had to get that intent data through the SaaS interface inside of Copilot or SalesOS. Today, you can get it in an API, you could get it through the MCPs. It's really just the flexibility of making that data much more available to our customers wherever they wanna work, which has changed where they wanna work, has changed, you know, obviously much more significantly than the necessity for our data and the accuracy of our data. We've spent really the last 18 months rebuilding the data infrastructure that delivers that data anywhere that a customer wants it. we've spent really the last 18 months rebuilding the data infrastructure that delivers that data anywhere that a customer wants it If you wanted intent data, you know, a year ago, you would have had to get that intent data through the SaaS interface inside of Copilot or SalesOS. if you wanted intent data you know a year ago you would have had to get that intent data through the saas interface inside of copilot or salesos Today, you can get it in an API, you could get it through the MCPs. today you can get it in an api you could get it through the mcps It's really just the flexibility of making that data much more available to our customers wherever they wanna work, which has changed where they wanna work, has changed, you know, obviously much more significantly than the necessity for our data and the accuracy of our data. it's really just the flexibility of making that data much more available to our customers wherever they wanna work which has changed where they wanna work has changed you know obviously much more significantly than the necessity for our data and the accuracy of our data
Speaker 4: Really helpful. Thank you so much, guys. Really helpful. really helpful Thank you so much, guys. thank you so much guys
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Speaker 1: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I guess maybe in the spirit of channeling my inner Brad, I'm gonna ask a couple of similar questions, but it feels like on the call you're walking through maybe a couple of different issues simultaneously, longer sales cycles, particularly in software, an acceleration in your push to transform and get out of the lower end of the market, as well as accelerate the shift to consumption from seat. If you're guiding to exit the year at kind of a -8% growth and saying you're gonna return to growth in fiscal 2027, like how much of the headwind from which of those parts is embedded in that guide? Hey, guys. hey guys Thanks for taking the question. thanks for taking the question I guess maybe in the spirit of channeling my inner Brad, I'm gonna ask a couple of similar questions, but it feels like on the call you're walking through maybe a couple of different issues simultaneously, longer sales cycles, particularly in software, an acceleration in your push to transform and get out of the lower end of the market, as well as accelerate the shift to consumption from seat. i guess maybe in the spirit of channeling my inner brad i'm gonna ask a couple of similar questions but it feels like on the call you're walking through maybe a couple of different issues simultaneously longer sales cycles particularly in software an acceleration in your push to transform and get out of the lower end of the market as well as accelerate the shift to consumption from seat If you're guiding to exit the year at kind of a - 8% growth and saying you're gonna return to growth in fiscal 2027, like how much of the headwind from which of those parts is embedded in that guide? if you're guiding to exit the year at kind of a - 8% growth and saying you're gonna return to growth in fiscal 2027 like how much of the headwind from which of those parts is embedded in that guide Where do you feel like there's maybe a little less risk because it's you guys pushing versus pulling? Where do you feel like there's maybe a little less risk because it's you guys pushing versus pulling? where do you feel like there's maybe a little less risk because it's you guys pushing versus pulling
Speaker 8: Yeah. I think you've got it right in that we're, you know, we're looking at the software vertical and some of the softness there coming out of the quarter. The downmarket right-sizing, like that's probably the largest part of the guidance re-revision this year, is that we can pretty scientifically say we take out X resources downmarket, and that creates Y of a ACV headwind this year. I think the biggest question that we're modeling is the pricing transformation. You know, as we kind of accelerate that this year, that will become the larger part of the story next year. As we model that, you know, there might be instances where there are lower entry points, and the question that we're modeling is: when do we get the upside, whether it's intra-contract from upsell opportunity or at renewal from mitigated downsell pressure. Yeah. yeah I think you've got it right in that we're, you know, we're looking at the software vertical and some of the softness there coming out of the quarter. i think you've got it right in that we're you know we're looking at the software vertical and some of the softness there coming out of the quarter The downmarket right-sizing, like that's probably the largest part of the guidance re-revision this year, is that we can pretty scientifically say we take out X resources downmarket, and that creates Y of a ACV headwind this year. the downmarket right-sizing like that's probably the largest part of the guidance re-revision this year is that we can pretty scientifically say we take out x resources downmarket and that creates y of a acv headwind this year I think the biggest question that we're modeling is the pricing transformation. i think the biggest question that we're modeling is the pricing transformation You know, as we kind of accelerate that this year, that will become the larger part of the story next year. you know as we kind of accelerate that this year that will become the larger part of the story next year As we model that, you know, there might be instances where there are lower entry points, and the question that we're modeling is: when do we get the upside, whether it's intra-contract from upsell opportunity or at renewal from mitigated downsell pressure. as we model that you know there might be instances where there are lower entry points and the question that we're modeling is when do we get the upside whether it's intra-contract from upsell opportunity or at renewal from mitigated downsell pressure
Speaker 9: I'd also add, Alex, you know, you've heard us talk over the last two years about our push to go up-market, and the retention characteristics and the growth characteristics in our up-market customer base are significantly better than our down-market customer base, which is diluting the up-market performance. We think this is a moment to rip the Band-Aid and really lean into that motion. You look at our operations business, which is now just under 20% of our overall ACV, that business is growing 20% year-over-year. It's the highest profitability part of our business, it directly correlates to customers needing more and more of our data as they continue to build internal AI applications and need to get their data foundation right. I'd also add, Alex, you know, you've heard us talk over the last two years about our push to go up-market, and the retention characteristics and the growth characteristics in our up-market customer base are significantly better than our down-market customer base, which is diluting the up-market performance. i'd also add alex you know you've heard us talk over the last two years about our push to go up-market and the retention characteristics and the growth characteristics in our up-market customer base are significantly better than our down-market customer base which is diluting the up-market performance We think this is a moment to rip the Band-Aid and really lean into that motion. we think this is a moment to rip the band-aid and really lean into that motion You look at our operations business, which is now just under 20% of our overall ACV, that business is growing 20% year-over-year. you look at our operations business which is now just under 20% of our overall acv that business is growing 20% year-over-year It's the highest profitability part of our business, it directly correlates to customers needing more and more of our data as they continue to build internal AI applications and need to get their data foundation right. it's the highest profitability part of our business it directly correlates to customers needing more and more of our data as they continue to build internal ai applications and need to get their data foundation right This feels like the moment to lean into that in a more aggressive way than we have historically. On the guidance, we're being super conservative with it because we recognize there are a number of moving pieces to the rest of the year. This feels like the moment to lean into that in a more aggressive way than we have historically. this feels like the moment to lean into that in a more aggressive way than we have historically On the guidance, we're being super conservative with it because we recognize there are a number of moving pieces to the rest of the year. on the guidance we're being super conservative with it because we recognize there are a number of moving pieces to the rest of the year
Speaker 1: Got it. Maybe to the, Henry, to the point that you made earlier about, you know, some of your motions, particularly on kinda unleashing the data asset. It was particularly striking that at the same time as you're calling out, you know, kinda some headwinds in broader software and AI anxiety, two of your most iconic wins, I think that you cited in the quarter, were with Sierra and another AI unicorn. Maybe can you just help us understand how are I assume those two companies aren't, you know, massively expanding seat count. How are those two iconic wins specifically leveraging some of that, you know, kinda leading-edge functionality that you're talking about, and what do those either expands or lands look like relative to previous cohorts? Got it. got it Maybe to the, Henry, to the point that you made earlier about, you know, some of your motions, particularly on kinda unleashing the data asset. maybe to the henry to the point that you made earlier about you know some of your motions particularly on kinda unleashing the data asset It was particularly striking that at the same time as you're calling out, you know, kinda some headwinds in broader software and AI anxiety, two of your most iconic wins, I think that you cited in the quarter, were with Sierra and another AI unicorn. it was particularly striking that at the same time as you're calling out you know kinda some headwinds in broader software and ai anxiety two of your most iconic wins i think that you cited in the quarter were with sierra and another ai unicorn Maybe can you just help us understand how are I assume those two companies aren't, you know, massively expanding seat count. maybe can you just help us understand how are i assume those two companies aren't you know massively expanding seat count How are those two iconic wins specifically leveraging some of that, you know, kinda leading-edge functionality that you're talking about, and what do those either expands or lands look like relative to previous cohorts? how are those two iconic wins specifically leveraging some of that you know kinda leading-edge functionality that you're talking about and what do those either expands or lands look like relative to previous cohorts
Speaker 9: You know, I think the big difference that we're seeing is customers, those AI native customers, are building their own internal revenue workflows. You know, in software, you have a very opinionated interface that you provide your customers, and it's opinionated because you have product managers who deeply understand the domain, and they try to build a flexible enough interface or a generic interface that customers across a broad spectrum of types and revenue workflows can get value out of. The AI natives are building their own revenue workflows. They're building their own interfaces. They're bringing in their own first-party data. They're building in their own unique workflows. You know, I think the big difference that we're seeing is customers, those AI native customers, are building their own internal revenue workflows. you know i think the big difference that we're seeing is customers those ai native customers are building their own internal revenue workflows You know, in software, you have a very opinionated interface that you provide your customers, and it's opinionated because you have product managers who deeply understand the domain, and they try to build a flexible enough interface or a generic interface that customers across a broad spectrum of types and revenue workflows can get value out of. you know in software you have a very opinionated interface that you provide your customers and it's opinionated because you have product managers who deeply understand the domain and they try to build a flexible enough interface or a generic interface that customers across a broad spectrum of types and revenue workflows can get value out of The AI natives are building their own revenue workflows. the ai natives are building their own revenue workflows They're building their own interfaces. they're building their own interfaces They're bringing in their own first-party data. they're bringing in their own first-party data They're building in their own unique workflows. they're building in their own unique workflows Every company's go-to-market workflow is a little bit different than the next company's, but every company's go-to-market workflow requires data on companies, requires data on contacts, requires hierarchy and subsidiary mapping so that you could do territory segmentation and planning. These companies are coming in, and they're saying, "We have a revenue workflow. We built it. We've built a prospecting workflow, but we need data to plug into that." These deals are much heavier on the data consumption side, and much lighter on the seats. Every company's go-to-market workflow is a little bit different than the next company's, but every company's go-to-market workflow requires data on companies, requires data on contacts, requires hierarchy and subsidiary mapping so that you could do territory segmentation and planning. every company's go-to-market workflow is a little bit different than the next company's but every company's go-to-market workflow requires data on companies requires data on contacts requires hierarchy and subsidiary mapping so that you could do territory segmentation and planning These companies are coming in, and they're saying, "We have a revenue workflow. these companies are coming in and they're saying "we have a revenue workflow We built it. we built it We've built a prospecting workflow, but we need data to plug into that." These deals are much heavier on the data consumption side, and much lighter on the seats. we've built a prospecting workflow but we need data to plug into that." these deals are much heavier on the data consumption side and much lighter on the seats
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. thank you
Speaker 9: as a big opportunity, an opportunity to embrace AI and really swing for a massive opportunity here. We think we're uniquely positioned to capture that. You know, if we were a traditional SaaS business, seats are not transferable into an LLM. It's very difficult to expand the surface area of where your product gets monetized. We are underlying a light SaaS interface is our data asset, which is the most important part of our business. We're gonna make that really available to anybody, anywhere a go-to-market workflow runs. We're uniquely positioned to be able to do that. as a big opportunity, an opportunity to embrace AI and really swing for a massive opportunity here. as a big opportunity an opportunity to embrace ai and really swing for a massive opportunity here We think we're uniquely positioned to capture that. we think we're uniquely positioned to capture that You know, if we were a traditional SaaS business, seats are not transferable into an LLM. you know if we were a traditional saas business seats are not transferable into an llm It's very difficult to expand the surface area of where your product gets monetized. it's very difficult to expand the surface area of where your product gets monetized We are underlying a light SaaS interface is our data asset, which is the most important part of our business. we are underlying a light saas interface is our data asset which is the most important part of our business We're gonna make that really available to anybody, anywhere a go-to-market workflow runs. we're gonna make that really available to anybody anywhere a go-to-market workflow runs We're uniquely positioned to be able to do that. we're uniquely positioned to be able to do that
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Speaker 16: Hey, thank you. Quick question. What you see at the moment in software, is that the software companies are reducing their sales capacity, or is it that they are actively building the front end like the AI guys are doing? The question then becomes like, will it eventually then spill to other industries when they realize how the world is evolving? I have one follow-up for Graham. Hey, thank you. hey thank you Quick question. quick question What you see at the moment in software, is that the software companies are reducing their sales capacity, or is it that they are actively building the front end like the AI guys are doing? what you see at the moment in software is that the software companies are reducing their sales capacity or is it that they are actively building the front end like the ai guys are doing The question then becomes like, will it eventually then spill to other industries when they realize how the world is evolving? the question then becomes like will it eventually then spill to other industries when they realize how the world is evolving I have one follow-up for Graham. i have one follow-up for graham
Speaker 9: I think it's a little bit of both, but I think at this point, we are happy to see it spill over into other industries because we think the bigger upside opportunity here is consumption of our data where every go-to-market workflow runs. So, yeah, we see it in software today, and we're, you know, leaning in to capture that opportunity with much more flexible pricing and the ability to transfer seat prices into consumption of our data. If this goes on into insurance and, you know, financial services or other segments, our APIs and MCPs and ability for our customers to use our data as the reference data architecture for all their go-to-market workflows I think it's a little bit of both, but I think at this point, we are happy to see it spill over into other industries because we think the bigger upside opportunity here is consumption of our data where every go-to-market workflow runs. i think it's a little bit of both but i think at this point we are happy to see it spill over into other industries because we think the bigger upside opportunity here is consumption of our data where every go-to-market workflow runs So, yeah, we see it in software today, and we're, you know, leaning in to capture that opportunity with much more flexible pricing and the ability to transfer seat prices into consumption of our data. so yeah we see it in software today and we're you know leaning in to capture that opportunity with much more flexible pricing and the ability to transfer seat prices into consumption of our data If this goes on into insurance and, you know, financial services or other segments, our APIs and MCPs and ability for our customers to use our data as the reference data architecture for all their go-to-market workflows if this goes on into insurance and you know financial services or other segments our apis and mcps and ability for our customers to use our data as the reference data architecture for all their go-to-market workflows Gets better and better and better every quarter, and it's about adapting our pricing and packaging models to meet the customers where they are. Where, you know, in software and sophisticated customers, they're leaning into building their own things, and we're gonna show up with consumption that they need for that. I don't view this expanding beyond software as a negative. It is what we're preparing the company for. Gets better and better and better every quarter, and it's about adapting our pricing and packaging models to meet the customers where they are. gets better and better and better every quarter and it's about adapting our pricing and packaging models to meet the customers where they are Where, you know, in software and sophisticated customers, they're leaning into building their own things, and we're gonna show up with consumption that they need for that. where you know in software and sophisticated customers they're leaning into building their own things and we're gonna show up with consumption that they need for that I don't view this expanding beyond software as a negative. i don't view this expanding beyond software as a negative It is what we're preparing the company for. it is what we're preparing the company for
Speaker 16: Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Makes total sense. I mean, that's, you always have the very strong data set from the very beginning since we first met you. Graham, if you think about guidance, like how much is that, is guidance implying that, you know, software is moving versus other guys are moving? Is that do you think about this in stages? Like this year is more software and it's part of the guidance, and then next year something else? Are you going to like this year, the whole model gets flipped to consumption anyway, and so whatever other industries are doing, it doesn't matter then. Thank you. Yeah. yeah Perfect. perfect Yeah. yeah Makes total sense. makes total sense I mean, that's, you always have the very strong data set from the very beginning since we first met you. i mean that's you always have the very strong data set from the very beginning since we first met you Graham, if you think about guidance, like how much is that, is guidance implying that, you know, software is moving versus other guys are moving? graham if you think about guidance like how much is that is guidance implying that you know software is moving versus other guys are moving Is that do you think about this in stages? is that do you think about this in stages Like this year is more software and it's part of the guidance, and then next year something else? like this year is more software and it's part of the guidance and then next year something else Are you going to like this year, the whole model gets flipped to consumption anyway, and so whatever other industries are doing, it doesn't matter then. are you going to like this year the whole model gets flipped to consumption anyway and so whatever other industries are doing it doesn't matter then Thank you. thank you
Speaker 8: Yeah. I think there's certainly a vertical specific assumption around software. Look, we still see good performance in our up-market business and our operations business. The revision to revenue and the cost out is focused on our down-market business where our margin profile is the worst. The development of uncertainty on multiple fronts is the primary reason behind the guidance revision, and we wanna minimize the risk of another negative revision. Yeah. yeah I think there's certainly a vertical specific assumption around software. i think there's certainly a vertical specific assumption around software Look, we still see good performance in our up-market business and our operations business. look we still see good performance in our up-market business and our operations business The revision to revenue and the cost out is focused on our down-market business where our margin profile is the worst. the revision to revenue and the cost out is focused on our down-market business where our margin profile is the worst The development of uncertainty on multiple fronts is the primary reason behind the guidance revision, and we wanna minimize the risk of another negative revision. the development of uncertainty on multiple fronts is the primary reason behind the guidance revision and we wanna minimize the risk of another negative revision
Speaker 16: Okay. Perfect. Makes sense. Good luck. Okay. okay Perfect. perfect Makes sense. makes sense Good luck. good luck
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Speaker 2: Hey there. Thanks for taking the question. You have a number of large up-market customers that spend millions on an annual basis with you. I think the reason for the shift to consumption makes sense. What kind of feedback and signals have you gotten that these larger customers are willing to spend the same amount, if not more, through a consumption model? I've got a quick follow-up. Hey there. hey there Thanks for taking the question. thanks for taking the question You have a number of large up-market customers that spend millions on an annual basis with you. you have a number of large up-market customers that spend millions on an annual basis with you I think the reason for the shift to consumption makes sense. i think the reason for the shift to consumption makes sense What kind of feedback and signals have you gotten that these larger customers are willing to spend the same amount, if not more, through a consumption model? what kind of feedback and signals have you gotten that these larger customers are willing to spend the same amount if not more through a consumption model I've got a quick follow-up. i've got a quick follow-up
Speaker 8: Yeah. When you look at the customers that spend the most with us annually, a lot of those are Operations customers. Our Operations business is our fastest-growing business at scale, growing over 20% year-over-year. We've seen, you know, not only a, you know, lack of reluctance, but increasing demand from those customers that are not on a seat-based model, that are largely data access customers. What we've seen is not only do they have better gross retention outcomes, they have significantly better net retention outcomes. Where they, you know, come in at an entry point and then essentially buy more and more and expand their investment with ZoomInfo over time. Yeah. yeah When you look at the customers that spend the most with us annually, a lot of those are Operations customers. when you look at the customers that spend the most with us annually a lot of those are operations customers Our Operations business is our fastest-growing business at scale, growing over 20% year-over-year. our operations business is our fastest-growing business at scale growing over 20% year-over-year We've seen, you know, not only a, you know, lack of reluctance, but increasing demand from those customers that are not on a seat-based model, that are largely data access customers. we've seen you know not only a you know lack of reluctance but increasing demand from those customers that are not on a seat-based model that are largely data access customers What we've seen is not only do they have better gross retention outcomes, they have significantly better net retention outcomes. what we've seen is not only do they have better gross retention outcomes they have significantly better net retention outcomes Where they, you know, come in at an entry point and then essentially buy more and more and expand their investment with ZoomInfo over time. where they you know come in at an entry point and then essentially buy more and more and expand their investment with zoominfo over time
Speaker 2: Got it. Graham, of your up-market ACV growth of 5% this quarter, what is the up-market software and non-software ACV growing? Within the 100K plus ACV customer cohort, can you share the number of customers that decline there? What % of them are software companies? Got it. got it Graham, of your up-market ACV growth of 5% this quarter, what is the up-market software and non-software ACV growing? graham of your up-market acv growth of 5% this quarter what is the up-market software and non-software acv growing Within the 100K plus ACV customer cohort, can you share the number of customers that decline there? within the 100k plus acv customer cohort can you share the number of customers that decline there What % of them are software companies? what % of them are software companies
Speaker 8: Up-market within, you know, the software portion of up-market, software overall was, you know, down a little bit sequentially in Q1. That is what is kind of creating the drag, both down-market and to some extent at the lower end of up-market. Within, within the 100K logo cohort, there are not as many logos period, but even software logos that are down-selling out of that. It really was a phenomenon of having less that were upselling into the quarter. We had better net from zero new sales into the cohort. We had significantly better down-sell on, or I guess lack of down-sell out of the cohort. Similar churn out as well. Up-market within, you know, the software portion of up-market, software overall was, you know, down a little bit sequentially in Q1. up-market within you know the software portion of up-market software overall was you know down a little bit sequentially in q1 That is what is kind of creating the drag, both down-market and to some extent at the lower end of up-market. that is what is kind of creating the drag both down-market and to some extent at the lower end of up-market Within, within the 100K logo cohort, there are not as many logos period, but even software logos that are down-selling out of that. within within the 100k logo cohort there are not as many logos period but even software logos that are down-selling out of that It really was a phenomenon of having less that were upselling into the quarter. it really was a phenomenon of having less that were upselling into the quarter We had better net from zero new sales into the cohort. we had better net from zero new sales into the cohort We had significantly better down-sell on, or I guess lack of down-sell out of the cohort. we had significantly better down-sell on or i guess lack of down-sell out of the cohort Similar churn out as well. similar churn out as well It's really a kind of pause around incremental purchases that we saw at the end of Q3, and that was largely focused in software. It's really a kind of pause around incremental purchases that we saw at the end of Q3, and that was largely focused in software. it's really a kind of pause around incremental purchases that we saw at the end of q3 and that was largely focused in software
Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. thank you
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Speaker 5: Hey guys. Thanks for taking the question here. Given the shift to more flexible pricing and packaging in the back half to better align with, to better align monetization with customer value, as we think about the guidance and as that kind of flows through the model, given the commentary around how some customers may end up paying more, some may end up paying less, can you just give us the building blocks for how we should think about this guidance in the back half? If I could sneak in a second one. With the closing of the Israel R&D center, can you just help us think about ZoomInfo's ability to balance investing for an AI era with kind of a lower R&D base? Hey guys. hey guys Thanks for taking the question here. thanks for taking the question here Given the shift to more flexible pricing and packaging in the back half to better align with, to better align monetization with customer value, as we think about the guidance and as that kind of flows through the model, given the commentary around how some customers may end up paying more, some may end up paying less, can you just give us the building blocks for how we should think about this guidance in the back half? given the shift to more flexible pricing and packaging in the back half to better align with to better align monetization with customer value as we think about the guidance and as that kind of flows through the model given the commentary around how some customers may end up paying more some may end up paying less can you just give us the building blocks for how we should think about this guidance in the back half If I could sneak in a second one. if i could sneak in a second one With the closing of the Israel R&D center, can you just help us think about ZoomInfo's ability to balance investing for an AI era with kind of a lower R&D base? with the closing of the israel r&d center can you just help us think about zoominfo's ability to balance investing for an ai era with kind of a lower r&d base Does this change any of your R&D priorities for the remainder of 2026? Thank you. Does this change any of your R&D priorities for the remainder of 2026? does this change any of your r&d priorities for the remainder of 2026 Thank you. thank you
Speaker 8: Yeah. You know, on kind of the composition of the guidance, when I look at the reduction and kind of breaking that down into the building blocks, about a quarter of that, a little bit more is coming from the down-market restructuring, where we're taking the least efficient down-market sales resources out and therefore in some cases foregoing or bringing in that inefficient down-market ACV at lower price points through a PLG motion. A little bit less than a quarter is coming from more cautious assumptions around software. A little less than a quarter is coming from the pricing ins and outs and the revenue recognition variability with the shift towards consumption. The rest is just a layer of incremental conservatism. Yeah. yeah You know, on kind of the composition of the guidance, when I look at the reduction and kind of breaking that down into the building blocks, about a quarter of that, a little bit more is coming from the down-market restructuring, where we're taking the least efficient down-market sales resources out and therefore in some cases foregoing or bringing in that inefficient down-market ACV at lower price points through a PLG motion. you know on kind of the composition of the guidance when i look at the reduction and kind of breaking that down into the building blocks about a quarter of that a little bit more is coming from the down-market restructuring where we're taking the least efficient down-market sales resources out and therefore in some cases foregoing or bringing in that inefficient down-market acv at lower price points through a plg motion A little bit less than a quarter is coming from more cautious assumptions around software. a little bit less than a quarter is coming from more cautious assumptions around software A little less than a quarter is coming from the pricing ins and outs and the revenue recognition variability with the shift towards consumption. a little less than a quarter is coming from the pricing ins and outs and the revenue recognition variability with the shift towards consumption The rest is just a layer of incremental conservatism. the rest is just a layer of incremental conservatism Yeah, look, I think the upside versus downside conversation as we, as we shift the model here is really gonna come down to timing and opportunity in the customer base. In Q3 and Q4, we're gonna learn more about what those net new customer sales look like and what the customer base migration looks like. In some cases, there'll be a balance of lower entry points that unlock upside of renewal or even intercontract, and it's just gonna be a timing equation with respect to that. Yeah, look, I think the upside versus downside conversation as we, as we shift the model here is really gonna come down to timing and opportunity in the customer base. yeah look i think the upside versus downside conversation as we as we shift the model here is really gonna come down to timing and opportunity in the customer base In Q3 and Q4, we're gonna learn more about what those net new customer sales look like and what the customer base migration looks like. in q3 and q4 we're gonna learn more about what those net new customer sales look like and what the customer base migration looks like In some cases, there'll be a balance of lower entry points that unlock upside of renewal or even intercontract, and it's just gonna be a timing equation with respect to that. in some cases there'll be a balance of lower entry points that unlock upside of renewal or even intercontract and it's just gonna be a timing equation with respect to that
Speaker 9: On the engineering side, there are two things. One, our engineers, with the help of coding agents, are delivering significantly multiple times more software into our platform than they ever have historically. We are seeing velocity boost. I mentioned all of the MCPs and integrations that we did over the last eight weeks. Just one of those would have taken us eight weeks, best case, a year ago. We're seeing real engineering efficiency coming from our leveraging of AI internally at ZoomInfo. I think the second thing is there are a number of roles that we won't have as much necessity for. We don't need as many front-end developers as we did before. We're able to build a front end in a really simple way. On the engineering side, there are two things. on the engineering side there are two things One, our engineers, with the help of coding agents, are delivering significantly multiple times more software into our platform than they ever have historically. one our engineers with the help of coding agents are delivering significantly multiple times more software into our platform than they ever have historically We are seeing velocity boost. we are seeing velocity boost I mentioned all of the MCPs and integrations that we did over the last eight weeks. i mentioned all of the mcps and integrations that we did over the last eight weeks Just one of those would have taken us eight weeks, best case, a year ago. just one of those would have taken us eight weeks best case a year ago We're seeing real engineering efficiency coming from our leveraging of AI internally at ZoomInfo. we're seeing real engineering efficiency coming from our leveraging of ai internally at zoominfo I think the second thing is there are a number of roles that we won't have as much necessity for. i think the second thing is there are a number of roles that we won't have as much necessity for We don't need as many front-end developers as we did before. we don't need as many front-end developers as we did before We're able to build a front end in a really simple way. we're able to build a front end in a really simple way Where a lot of focus historically was on the front end, more of the focus is now on the data infrastructure, the back end, and the flexibility of that data to get plugged into a number of places. It's not as necessary for us to have as many front-end application developers as we've had historically. Where a lot of focus historically was on the front end, more of the focus is now on the data infrastructure, the back end, and the flexibility of that data to get plugged into a number of places. where a lot of focus historically was on the front end more of the focus is now on the data infrastructure the back end and the flexibility of that data to get plugged into a number of places It's not as necessary for us to have as many front-end application developers as we've had historically. it's not as necessary for us to have as many front-end application developers as we've had historically
Speaker 5: Thank you. Appreciate the granular detail on the guide. Thank you. thank you Appreciate the granular detail on the guide. appreciate the granular detail on the guide
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Speaker 17: Just to follow up to that earlier question is, I mean, 600 jobs roles that you reduced, what's the mix of that in different functions, go-to-market versus R&D or any other back office functions? Just to follow up to that earlier question is, I mean, 600 jobs roles that you reduced, what's the mix of that in different functions, go-to-market versus R&D or any other back office functions? just to follow up to that earlier question is i mean 600 jobs roles that you reduced what's the mix of that in different functions go-to-market versus r&d or any other back office functions
Speaker 8: Sure. It's mostly going to be R&D. You can think about it as like about half R&D, the rest of it is mostly going to be down-market sales and marketing resources. You could think about it as probably 90% R&D and down-market sales and marketing. There's some G&A that makes up another 10% or so of the roles. Sure. sure It's mostly going to be R&D. it's mostly going to be r&d You can think about it as like about half R&D, the rest of it is mostly going to be down-market sales and marketing resources. you can think about it as like about half r&d the rest of it is mostly going to be down-market sales and marketing resources You could think about it as probably 90% R&D and down-market sales and marketing. you could think about it as probably 90% r&d and down-market sales and marketing There's some G&A that makes up another 10% or so of the roles. there's some g&a that makes up another 10% or so of the roles
Speaker 17: Okay. NRR has been flat at 90% now for the last three quarters. As you are looking into further this deliberate shift away from this seat-based pricing and also some kinda churn you're expecting in software, what's the floor on NRR in 2026? Does it have to bounce back as you're thinking about growth to re-accelerate? Okay. okay NRR has been flat at 90% now for the last three quarters. nrr has been flat at 90% now for the last three quarters As you are looking into further this deliberate shift away from this seat-based pricing and also some kinda churn you're expecting in software, what's the floor on NRR in 2026? as you are looking into further this deliberate shift away from this seat-based pricing and also some kinda churn you're expecting in software what's the floor on nrr in 2026 Does it have to bounce back as you're thinking about growth to re-accelerate? does it have to bounce back as you're thinking about growth to re-accelerate
Speaker 8: Yeah. I think the bounce back after, you know, potentially some near-term headwind here would certainly be the most important thing to, you know, as part of that return to growth. With some of the, you know, with the proactive shift in the pricing model, there may be some regression in overall net revenue retention, and that's certainly reflected in the guidance. I think we feel really confident about offsetting that quickly thereafter with upside from the shift towards the consumption model. Yeah. yeah I think the bounce back after, you know, potentially some near-term headwind here would certainly be the most important thing to, you know, as part of that return to growth. i think the bounce back after you know potentially some near-term headwind here would certainly be the most important thing to you know as part of that return to growth With some of the, you know, with the proactive shift in the pricing model, there may be some regression in overall net revenue retention, and that's certainly reflected in the guidance. with some of the you know with the proactive shift in the pricing model there may be some regression in overall net revenue retention and that's certainly reflected in the guidance I think we feel really confident about offsetting that quickly thereafter with upside from the shift towards the consumption model. i think we feel really confident about offsetting that quickly thereafter with upside from the shift towards the consumption model
Speaker 17: Thank you. Thank you. thank you
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Speaker 7: Hey. Thank you, guys. Henry, we've talked a lot about more flexible pricing. I think that makes a ton of sense. Do you also have to get more aggressive in lower prices to re-accelerate demand? Hey. hey Thank you, guys. thank you guys Henry, we've talked a lot about more flexible pricing. henry we've talked a lot about more flexible pricing I think that makes a ton of sense. i think that makes a ton of sense Do you also have to get more aggressive in lower prices to re-accelerate demand? do you also have to get more aggressive in lower prices to re-accelerate demand
Speaker 9: I think that what we're thinking, DJ, is not creating artificial barriers to get in and leverage our data, particularly in the down market, where we have an opportunity to bring a customer on for lower prices, but align that customer to value through consumption of our data, either in our platform or in an LLM. We wanna make it really easy to transact with us. One of the core assumptions of this shift is that our PLG motion drive drives more opportunity down market by removing platform fees, seat minimum, and aligning towards consumption, which we think is better aligned to what the customer is looking for. I think that what we're thinking, DJ, is not creating artificial barriers to get in and leverage our data, particularly in the down market, where we have an opportunity to bring a customer on for lower prices, but align that customer to value through consumption of our data, either in our platform or in an LLM. i think that what we're thinking dj is not creating artificial barriers to get in and leverage our data particularly in the down market where we have an opportunity to bring a customer on for lower prices but align that customer to value through consumption of our data either in our platform or in an llm We wanna make it really easy to transact with us. we wanna make it really easy to transact with us One of the core assumptions of this shift is that our PLG motion drive drives more opportunity down market by removing platform fees, seat minimum, and aligning towards consumption, which we think is better aligned to what the customer is looking for. one of the core assumptions of this shift is that our plg motion drive drives more opportunity down market by removing platform fees seat minimum and aligning towards consumption which we think is better aligned to what the customer is looking for
Speaker 7: Yeah. Okay. Then Graham, a follow-up for you. Just based on how you're forecasting the business today, when do you expect to see a return to positive quarterly sequential revenue growth? Yeah. yeah Okay. okay Then Graham, a follow-up for you. then graham a follow-up for you Just based on how you're forecasting the business today, when do you expect to see a return to positive quarterly sequential revenue growth? just based on how you're forecasting the business today when do you expect to see a return to positive quarterly sequential revenue growth
Speaker 8: I'd say we expect growth to be sustainably positive by the second half of 2027 at the latest, with healthier underpinnings and nearly called unconstrained upside to our consumption TAM. I'd say we expect growth to be sustainably positive by the second half of 2027 at the latest, with healthier underpinnings and nearly called unconstrained upside to our consumption TAM. i'd say we expect growth to be sustainably positive by the second half of 2027 at the latest with healthier underpinnings and nearly called unconstrained upside to our consumption tam
Speaker 7: Yep. Okay. Very clear. Thanks. Yep. yep Okay. okay Very clear. very clear Thanks. thanks
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Speaker 15: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I believe you said it was the third quarter that you'll introduce the platform fee with prepackaged credits. Just to be clear, for customers that have upgraded in 1Q and 2Q or will have a renewal that extends beyond the second half of the year, are you gonna be negotiating under this new pricing structure and maybe trying to shift them to a new model ahead of time, or is it only gonna happen at renewal? Second, do you anticipate less willingness to engage in similar durations? Do you think people will compress their duration at all in response to how fast things are moving out there? Hey, guys. hey guys Thanks for taking the question. thanks for taking the question I believe you said it was the third quarter that you'll introduce the platform fee with prepackaged credits. i believe you said it was the third quarter that you'll introduce the platform fee with prepackaged credits Just to be clear, for customers that have upgraded in 1Q and 2Q or will have a renewal that extends beyond the second half of the year, are you gonna be negotiating under this new pricing structure and maybe trying to shift them to a new model ahead of time, or is it only gonna happen at renewal? just to be clear for customers that have upgraded in 1q and 2q or will have a renewal that extends beyond the second half of the year are you gonna be negotiating under this new pricing structure and maybe trying to shift them to a new model ahead of time or is it only gonna happen at renewal Second, do you anticipate less willingness to engage in similar durations? second do you anticipate less willingness to engage in similar durations Do you think people will compress their duration at all in response to how fast things are moving out there? do you think people will compress their duration at all in response to how fast things are moving out there
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I think we're gonna have an opportunity to work with our customers to shift them into this pricing model regardless of renewal dates. It's not gonna be a forced shift, but in Q3 from a new business perspective, we'll be leading with this for the first time. Then with the customer base, we're gonna meet the customer kind of where the value is, and there's gonna be opportunities to shift them to this more variable pricing and away from kind of the more fixed model, and we see a lot of upside for the customer and for us in doing so. Yeah, look, I think we're gonna have an opportunity to work with our customers to shift them into this pricing model regardless of renewal dates. yeah look i think we're gonna have an opportunity to work with our customers to shift them into this pricing model regardless of renewal dates It's not gonna be a forced shift, but in Q3 from a new business perspective, we'll be leading with this for the first time. it's not gonna be a forced shift but in q3 from a new business perspective we'll be leading with this for the first time Then with the customer base, we're gonna meet the customer kind of where the value is, and there's gonna be opportunities to shift them to this more variable pricing and away from kind of the more fixed model, and we see a lot of upside for the customer and for us in doing so. then with the customer base we're gonna meet the customer kind of where the value is and there's gonna be opportunities to shift them to this more variable pricing and away from kind of the more fixed model and we see a lot of upside for the customer and for us in doing so
Speaker 15: Got it. Thank you. Got it. got it Thank you. thank you
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, what was the second question, Parker? I'm sorry, what was the second question, Parker? i'm sorry what was the second question parker
Speaker 15: It was on duration, if you see any less willingness to engage in similar durations, particularly those that have been multi-year. It was on duration, if you see any less willingness to engage in similar durations, particularly those that have been multi-year. it was on duration if you see any less willingness to engage in similar durations particularly those that have been multi-year
Speaker 8: You know, we haven't seen that with the operations business where you know, that has significantly longer duration than some of our other products. I would expect that we won't see a headwind on that front. You know, we haven't seen that with the operations business where you know, that has significantly longer duration than some of our other products. you know we haven't seen that with the operations business where you know that has significantly longer duration than some of our other products I would expect that we won't see a headwind on that front. i would expect that we won't see a headwind on that front
Speaker 15: Got it. Appreciate it. Got it. got it Appreciate it. appreciate it
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Speaker 13: Great. Hello, this is Nathan Ross on for Jackson Ader. Thank you for taking our questions. Regarding the Studio and Workspace, what's been the initial customer feedback on these tools thus far, specifically for Workspace since it's newer, and how do you expect these tools to attach to contracts going forward? Thank you. Great. great Hello, this is Nathan Ross on for Jackson Ader. hello this is nathan ross on for jackson ader Thank you for taking our questions. thank you for taking our questions Regarding the Studio and Workspace, what's been the initial customer feedback on these tools thus far, specifically for Workspace since it's newer, and how do you expect these tools to attach to contracts going forward? regarding the studio and workspace what's been the initial customer feedback on these tools thus far specifically for workspace since it's newer and how do you expect these tools to attach to contracts going forward Thank you. thank you
Speaker 9: Yeah. Initial, you know, we did a much more heavy push this quarter on GTM Studio. We introduced it to about a quarter of our customers who are now in trials of Studio. They're hands-on trials with their account managers and solution consultants. They're consuming data within Studio. Then we're moving a lot of those customers to paid customers of Studio. We feel really good about the feedback we're hearing there. There are use cases that weren't accomplishable inside of legacy ZoomInfo platform that they now are able to do inside of Studio that they wouldn't have been able to do before. We've layered AI inside of Studio, and all of that is really designed to drive consumption. Yeah. yeah Initial, you know, we did a much more heavy push this quarter on GTM Studio. initial you know we did a much more heavy push this quarter on gtm studio We introduced it to about a quarter of our customers who are now in trials of Studio. we introduced it to about a quarter of our customers who are now in trials of studio They're hands-on trials with their account managers and solution consultants. they're hands-on trials with their account managers and solution consultants They're consuming data within Studio. they're consuming data within studio Then we're moving a lot of those customers to paid customers of Studio. then we're moving a lot of those customers to paid customers of studio We feel really good about the feedback we're hearing there. we feel really good about the feedback we're hearing there There are use cases that weren't accomplishable inside of legacy ZoomInfo platform that they now are able to do inside of Studio that they wouldn't have been able to do before. there are use cases that weren't accomplishable inside of legacy zoominfo platform that they now are able to do inside of studio that they wouldn't have been able to do before We've layered AI inside of Studio, and all of that is really designed to drive consumption. we've layered ai inside of studio and all of that is really designed to drive consumption We expect Studio to be a meaningful driver of consumption of our data, through that platform. That's really where we're focused. You know, that's a similar model where instead of a platform fee, you're paying for consumption to come into Studio, and your upfront fees translate into consumption data and AI credits. It's been really positive feedback. It's really early still, but we feel really good about the feedback that we're hearing there. We continue to invest meaningful R&D dollars behind that platform as well. We expect Studio to be a meaningful driver of consumption of our data, through that platform. we expect studio to be a meaningful driver of consumption of our data through that platform That's really where we're focused. that's really where we're focused You know, that's a similar model where instead of a platform fee, you're paying for consumption to come into Studio, and your upfront fees translate into consumption data and AI credits. you know that's a similar model where instead of a platform fee you're paying for consumption to come into studio and your upfront fees translate into consumption data and ai credits It's been really positive feedback. it's been really positive feedback It's really early still, but we feel really good about the feedback that we're hearing there. it's really early still but we feel really good about the feedback that we're hearing there We continue to invest meaningful R&D dollars behind that platform as well. we continue to invest meaningful r&d dollars behind that platform as well
Speaker 13: Great. Super helpful. Then one more from me. As you guys transition to more of a consumption model going forward, how do you help customers get comfortable with the variable pricing who are originally used to seat-based fixed pricing? Thank you. Great. great Super helpful. super helpful Then one more from me. then one more from me As you guys transition to more of a consumption model going forward, how do you help customers get comfortable with the variable pricing who are originally used to seat-based fixed pricing? as you guys transition to more of a consumption model going forward how do you help customers get comfortable with the variable pricing who are originally used to seat-based fixed pricing Thank you. thank you
Speaker 8: Generally, we'll work with the customers to kind of establish guardrails around the sizing of the initial purchase. We still expect this to be, for the most part, recommitted consumption spend, so they're paying for a level of credits upfront, and when they've gone through those credits, we can sell them more. We're, you know, really sensitive to making sure that the customers feel comfortable with that initial purchase and, you know, certainly comfortable with the value that we're ascribing to it. Generally, we'll work with the customers to kind of establish guardrails around the sizing of the initial purchase. generally we'll work with the customers to kind of establish guardrails around the sizing of the initial purchase We still expect this to be, for the most part, recommitted consumption spend, so they're paying for a level of credits upfront, and when they've gone through those credits, we can sell them more. we still expect this to be for the most part recommitted consumption spend so they're paying for a level of credits upfront and when they've gone through those credits we can sell them more We're, you know, really sensitive to making sure that the customers feel comfortable with that initial purchase and, you know, certainly comfortable with the value that we're ascribing to it. we're you know really sensitive to making sure that the customers feel comfortable with that initial purchase and you know certainly comfortable with the value that we're ascribing to it
Speaker 13: Awesome. Thanks so much, guys. Awesome. awesome Thanks so much, guys. thanks so much guys
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Speaker 19: Thanks for taking the question. Just to double-click on the timing of all these changes. I think you talked about a 12-18 month sort of period of transition. Can you just remind us, are you essentially expecting all customers to be kind of migrated over to this new consumption plan by, you know, the second quarter of 2028? Is that the quarter where we see ACV growth trough, and then revenue kind of follows after that? Just walk us through the mechanics of that and anything we should keep in mind in terms of revenue recognition. Thanks for taking the question. thanks for taking the question Just to double-click on the timing of all these changes. just to double-click on the timing of all these changes I think you talked about a 12- 18 month sort of period of transition. i think you talked about a 12- 18 month sort of period of transition Can you just remind us, are you essentially expecting all customers to be kind of migrated over to this new consumption plan by, you know, the second quarter of 2028? can you just remind us are you essentially expecting all customers to be kind of migrated over to this new consumption plan by you know the second quarter of 2028 Is that the quarter where we see ACV growth trough, and then revenue kind of follows after that? is that the quarter where we see acv growth trough and then revenue kind of follows after that Just walk us through the mechanics of that and anything we should keep in mind in terms of revenue recognition. just walk us through the mechanics of that and anything we should keep in mind in terms of revenue recognition
Speaker 8: Yeah. I think if we're thinking about kind of the order of operations here, we plan to be leading the new business motion with this hybrid non-seat-based model by the end of Q3 this year, as well as kicking off kind of a more formal transition for customers who want to move to this and who we believe will benefit from this. As we get, I think what we said is in 12-18 months, we'd like to be closer to 50/50 from a seat-based ACV versus non-seat-based ACV perspective. Right now, we're two-thirds seats and about a third non-seats. I think, you know, shifting 15-17 points there over the next 12-18 months is our plan. We don't think that that is the kind of clock on when we get back to growth. Yeah. yeah I think if we're thinking about kind of the order of operations here, we plan to be leading the new business motion with this hybrid non-seat-based model by the end of Q3 this year, as well as kicking off kind of a more formal transition for customers who want to move to this and who we believe will benefit from this. i think if we're thinking about kind of the order of operations here we plan to be leading the new business motion with this hybrid non-seat-based model by the end of q3 this year as well as kicking off kind of a more formal transition for customers who want to move to this and who we believe will benefit from this As we get, I think what we said is in 12-18 months, we'd like to be closer to 50/50 from a seat-based ACV versus non-seat-based ACV perspective. as we get i think what we said is in 12-18 months we'd like to be closer to 50/50 from a seat-based acv versus non-seat-based acv perspective Right now, we're two-thirds seats and about a third non-seats. right now we're two-thirds seats and about a third non-seats I think, you know, shifting 15-17 points there over the next 12-18 months is our plan. i think you know shifting 15-17 points there over the next 12-18 months is our plan We don't think that that is the kind of clock on when we get back to growth. we don't think that that is the kind of clock on when we get back to growth I think we're, you know, really confident in getting back to revenue growth on an annual basis by the back half of 2027, and that would probably be a quarter or so after we're back to a ACV growth trajectory. I think we're, you know, really confident in getting back to revenue growth on an annual basis by the back half of 2027, and that would probably be a quarter or so after we're back to a ACV growth trajectory. i think we're you know really confident in getting back to revenue growth on an annual basis by the back half of 2027 and that would probably be a quarter or so after we're back to a acv growth trajectory
Speaker 19: Got it. How do you think about long-term GAAP operating margins, free cash flow margins under this new model? You know, obviously in the past, you guys have stepped up share purchases, you know, in periods where the stock is dislocated. How do you just think about all those pieces given the announcements today? Got it. got it How do you think about long-term GAAP operating margins, free cash flow margins under this new model? how do you think about long-term gaap operating margins free cash flow margins under this new model You know, obviously in the past, you guys have stepped up share purchases, you know, in periods where the stock is dislocated. you know obviously in the past you guys have stepped up share purchases you know in periods where the stock is dislocated How do you just think about all those pieces given the announcements today? how do you just think about all those pieces given the announcements today
Speaker 8: I think the biggest thing is that we are committed to protecting and growing cash flow per share in any set of conditions. I think the biggest thing is that we are committed to protecting and growing cash flow per share in any set of conditions. i think the biggest thing is that we are committed to protecting and growing cash flow per share in any set of conditions
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Speaker 6: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Graham, you mentioned that the operations business has longer duration. I'd love to maybe understand, you know, anything that you can share about that business in terms of end market exposure, sales cycles, you know, how much comes in kind of net new versus cross-sell as that becomes a more important part of the business. Thanks, guys. Hey, guys. hey guys Thanks for taking the question. thanks for taking the question Graham, you mentioned that the operations business has longer duration. graham you mentioned that the operations business has longer duration I'd love to maybe understand, you know, anything that you can share about that business in terms of end market exposure, sales cycles, you know, how much comes in kind of net new versus cross-sell as that becomes a more important part of the business. i'd love to maybe understand you know anything that you can share about that business in terms of end market exposure sales cycles you know how much comes in kind of net new versus cross-sell as that becomes a more important part of the business Thanks, guys. thanks guys
Speaker 8: Sure. you know, it's still a lot of the growth in the operations business does come from existing customers, whether they're ZoomInfo customers that are cross-selling into operations or existing operations customers that are expanding their operations spend. That's where the lion's share of it comes from. The net retention and the gross retention in the operations business is better than any other business within ZoomInfo. You know what that means is we still have a good amount of logo white space, whether they're existing ZoomInfo logos or not, so acquire as operations customers. Sure. you know, it's still a lot of the growth in the operations business does come from existing customers, whether they're ZoomInfo customers that are cross-selling into operations or existing operations customers that are expanding their operations spend. sure you know it's still a lot of the growth in the operations business does come from existing customers whether they're zoominfo customers that are cross-selling into operations or existing operations customers that are expanding their operations spend That's where the lion's share of it comes from. that's where the lion's share of it comes from The net retention and the gross retention in the operations business is better than any other business within ZoomInfo. the net retention and the gross retention in the operations business is better than any other business within zoominfo You know what that means is we still have a good amount of logo white space, whether they're existing ZoomInfo logos or not, so acquire as operations customers. you know what that means is we still have a good amount of logo white space whether they're existing zoominfo logos or not so acquire as operations customers
Speaker 6: Graham, is there any sense for how much of that is tech or software related? You know, any help on end market mix? Graham, is there any sense for how much of that is tech or software related? graham is there any sense for how much of that is tech or software related You know, any help on end market mix? you know any help on end market mix
Speaker 8: It's pretty diverse. It's less, you know, software heavy than our kind of core offerings. It's very heavily weighted to large enterprises across a diverse set of verticals. It's pretty diverse. it's pretty diverse It's less, you know, software heavy than our kind of core offerings. it's less you know software heavy than our kind of core offerings It's very heavily weighted to large enterprises across a diverse set of verticals. it's very heavily weighted to large enterprises across a diverse set of verticals
Speaker 6: Great. Thanks, guys. Great. great Thanks, guys. thanks guys
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Speaker 3: Great. Thanks for taking the question here. I don't think there's been a lot of discussion about Copilot. I think last quarter was over 20% of total ACV. I'm just wondering if there's any update you can provide with respect to that metric or just how those renewals trended in the quarter or kind of if the shift is just transforming your overall vision for Copilot. Great. great Thanks for taking the question here. thanks for taking the question here I don't think there's been a lot of discussion about Copilot. i don't think there's been a lot of discussion about copilot I think last quarter was over 20% of total ACV. i think last quarter was over 20% of total acv I'm just wondering if there's any update you can provide with respect to that metric or just how those renewals trended in the quarter or kind of if the shift is just transforming your overall vision for Copilot. i'm just wondering if there's any update you can provide with respect to that metric or just how those renewals trended in the quarter or kind of if the shift is just transforming your overall vision for copilot
Speaker 8: I think the pricing model will certainly play into how we package and sell Copilot here, but Q1 was another really solid quarter for Copilot. It continues to increase as a mix of the total business, and I think it was actually one of the brighter spots for us in the quarter. What will change in the future is how we price Copilot, and you should expect that it's priced, you know, more from a prepackaged credit perspective than historically where we sold it on a seat basis. I think the pricing model will certainly play into how we package and sell Copilot here, but Q1 was another really solid quarter for Copilot. i think the pricing model will certainly play into how we package and sell copilot here but q1 was another really solid quarter for copilot It continues to increase as a mix of the total business, and I think it was actually one of the brighter spots for us in the quarter. it continues to increase as a mix of the total business and i think it was actually one of the brighter spots for us in the quarter What will change in the future is how we price Copilot, and you should expect that it's priced, you know, more from a prepackaged credit perspective than historically where we sold it on a seat basis. what will change in the future is how we price copilot and you should expect that it's priced you know more from a prepackaged credit perspective than historically where we sold it on a seat basis
Speaker 3: Great. Maybe just as a quick follow-up here. The AI confusion and some of the macro that you discussed earlier in the call, is there anything you can share with respect to maybe how that's just trended so far kind of in April and early May and whether those trends have continued or how those have changed more recently? Great. great Maybe just as a quick follow-up here. maybe just as a quick follow-up here The AI confusion and some of the macro that you discussed earlier in the call, is there anything you can share with respect to maybe how that's just trended so far kind of in April and early May and whether those trends have continued or how those have changed more recently? the ai confusion and some of the macro that you discussed earlier in the call is there anything you can share with respect to maybe how that's just trended so far kind of in april and early may and whether those trends have continued or how those have changed more recently
Speaker 8: Yeah. It's pretty similar to what we saw at the end of the quarter. It's not necessarily getting worse. I think we're still in that pause phase. Yeah. yeah It's pretty similar to what we saw at the end of the quarter. it's pretty similar to what we saw at the end of the quarter It's not necessarily getting worse. it's not necessarily getting worse I think we're still in that pause phase. i think we're still in that pause phase
Speaker 3: Okay. Thanks. Okay. okay Thanks. thanks
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