Walmart Inc. — Call Transcript 2025

Thank you very much, everyone. Thanks for your patience. Welcome to our Retail Media Discussion with Walmart at the Piper Sandler Growth Frontiers Conference. My name is Peter Keith. I'm the Senior Research Analyst covering consumer hard lines and broad lines. I'm joined by my colleague and friend, Tom Champion. He's a Senior Research Analyst covering the internet companies in the technology space. Quick introductions for who we have on stage. I think two of the most knowledgeable people around retail media are with me. We have Rich Lehrfeld, who's a Senior Vice President and General Manager of Walmart Connect. We have Michael O'Donnell, who is a Vice President and Chief Revenue Officer of VIZIO. Thank you both for coming today. Thanks for having me. Thank you for having me. I don't know that I'm on either. Oh, there we go. OK. Am I on? Hello? Hello? Yeah, we're good. OK. Just as a quick introduction, many of you may know, but if you don't, Walmart did acquire VIZIO. Officially closed in December of 2024. This is very new. I see potential. They've created one of the most powerful retail media networks in the world. I think there's a lot of opportunity long term. We're going to dig into that. Why don't we just kick it off? We're going to give the first question to Rich. Just help educate the audience. What do you see at a high level that retail media is today and exactly how it's evolving? Yeah. Thank you for having us. Appreciate the time. I know some people don't know retail media. If it's OK, I'll start with a little what retail media is. I'll walk you through it. I'll try to do it as quick as possible. Cut me off at any point. For those who don't know, retail media is really actionable, performance-based media that is infused with first-party data. Strong first-party signals, customer information about our customers. If you OK, I'm going to kind of bring you back to bring you forward. I was a longtime media buyer. I started in the days of traditional media. I was a buyer of TV and print and all the other areas. Back in the day, it was really a broad-based media. We would buy Seinfeld or Friends, and 30% of the country would see the ads. We could see sales the next day because it was just a very broad-based media. The world has changed. We all know. The world of media is fragmented down to interest levels, down to how we view whether that is TV or social or digital. It's very complicated and difficult for a media buyer or for marketers to really win in the space or get people to buy their products. With that, it makes it probably less efficient and makes it less efficient to buy media, more expensive to buy media, very hard to find your customers. The key is, for our buyer, you need better targeting. You need more efficiency. You need more action to be able to sell the products and at scale. Walmart or retail media allows you to have that, especially Walmart, which is we provide scale. We provide solutions. We provide signals. Retail media has moved into this space where traditionally has. I can do the full funnel next. Probably should have done that one first. Actually, let me go one page. OK. When I talk full funnel, I say funnel. A traditional funnel in marketing starts with awareness. It's a broad-based media, consideration, and then a customer will buy something. The loop happens, maybe a loyalty loop around. Traditionally, advertising was, as I said, when you're buying, it's the awareness set. Retail media traditionally has been in the conversion. You go onto a site, so Walmart.com or the app, and we show you search. You search for a laundry detergent. You get search, and we know that influences sales. You can also get display. You can do lots of things. Where retail media is really starting to get to is a point where now you can reach customers. I'm going to go back. Thank you. Online, you can get them in store, or you can get them across the internet. If you've been shopping on the internet, you're searching for shoes, you know sometimes you'll see shoes. Retail media can be first-party infused information and be able to reach customers wherever they are. Scale, solutions, and signals are really important. For Walmart, we have 150 million customers, so we have scale. Solutions, we have a broad array of solutions, as I just showed you right here. You can get them on the app. We can reach you in social media. We can get you in the stores. We can get you across the web in our pickup and delivery. You can reach with messages, advertising messages, and these are very targeted messages. It's infused with first-party data to do better targeting, allows the advertiser to do optimization. On a real-time basis, we can get signals and understand where sales are happening and then show that sales. Retail media, and specifically Walmart, allows for scale, signals, so the data on 150 million customers on a weekly basis, and then solutions, solutions to be able to onsite, offsite, or in store. It's a really powerful medium. Retail media and Walmart allow you to be able to do that. OK. Let's talk a little bit about VIZIO and the CTV opportunity. Obviously, a big acquisition for you guys last year. Maybe just level set, Rich. Why did you make this acquisition? I'll let Mike answer first because he has probably a better history and can talk about why don't you start, Mike, and then I'll lead it. Yeah. Before I get into why did Walmart acquire us, I think it's important for this group maybe to give a little education around what it is VIZIO has and what it is or how we make money or how we're going to make money from Walmart. Most of you likely know us as a TV maker. We've been that for the past 23 years, making high-quality televisions at an affordable price. As that business has declined both in price and margin, our core business is really around our operating system. Our operating system—oh, good job, Rich. You were able to flip to it—our operating system is a key part of the flywheel. Our flywheel, in terms of how we make money, is we need to sell a lot of televisions. We need to get our customers to activate those televisions. We need to get them spending a lot of time searching and discovering and using the content on our platforms. Ultimately, that's going to drive ARPU. We drive ARPU in a couple of different ways. We do it through subscriptions or bounties we get from subscription partners we have on the platform. That could be a Disney, Netflix, et cetera. We do that through a data licensing business, through our own first-party viewing data that we have. The largest way we do it is through advertising. We sell two different types of advertising to partners. One is—I'll kind of lean back here. You see Sonic 3. One is our display banners. That is our home screen. When you turn on the television, the first thing you see is this home screen today. We use that to partner with advertisers like a Disney or a Max to be able to promote the TV shows they have, the movies they have, or drive more subscriptions or engagement time within those apps. We also have a video business in which we have WatchFree+, which is an owned and operated app that we have on our platform. You buy VIZIO television, take it out of the box, connect to the internet, and you automatically have 350 free channels and over 40,000 free ad-supported movies and TV shows. That's the business model we have. Why did Walmart acquire us? Walmart acquired us because they saw a same challenge. They are a large distributor of televisions in the marketplace. Our top customer is our top customer and was our top customer at VIZIO. They've seen the erosion of hardware prices and the margins there and saw that the big opportunity for the business was in the back end on the platform side. I think Rich actually just said it best in terms of scale, solutions, and signals. The opportunity that's in front of us is when you think of that flywheel with scale, Walmart sells a lot of televisions. Sam's Club sells a lot of televisions. We're able to generate a lot more volume in terms of building up the distribution of the operating system, getting it in front of more and more customers. In terms of solutions, we're able to connect the experience with the customers better. When you think of Walmart and that experience of search and discovery, being able to connect a customer who's searching for a movie with their family to be able to say, not only here's the movie you want to watch, but also here's a pizza and a soda that you can get in the next hour delivered directly from Walmart. From a signal perspective, I think it unlocks the capability between Walmart Connect and VIZIO for advertisers. How do we create a better advertising experience? If we can generate a lot more scale, if we can have a very engaging experience, that's a great opportunity for advertisers to be able to leverage the signals, to create more personalized advertising, and ultimately be able to measure it on the back end. Rich showed the funnel. Being able to look top of the funnel, which VIZIO or video and TV really is, it's about brand awareness. It's about brand lift. It's about how do I drive reach. Being able to connect that with those signals that we can gain from Walmart Connect to be able to say, not only did you see this ad or were you watching this content and saw this ad, but you also made a purchase in store. I'll just add, I talked about this funnel. From a Walmart Connect or an advertising perspective, I'm going back. It's that funnel: awareness, consideration, and then purchase. We have a fast-growing advertising business and alternative revenue for Walmart. It's really about the customer. We announced last year about $4.4 billion last quarter for Walmart Connect, growing at 31%. That's not even including VIZIO. Globally, at 47%, including VIZIO. In the U.S., 60% with VIZIO. It's a fast-growing business. The revenue is important. It's really about our customers. It starts with our customers. From a Walmart Connect perspective, everything we do is customer-centric. We try to use information and data to be able to add more value to that customer experience. I'm Rich. Let's say it's this water. We now have that signal about you. How do you provide that water but also give you assortment and diversity? We know that's part of the shopping experience. Traditionally, we have played at that lower part of the funnel, that demand side. You search. We now have that intent. We understand you as a customer, what you do, what you like. Traditionally, we've gone to that mid-funnel, maybe consideration. As the world and the aperture is opening with us, we've started this journey of going into connected TV and social and using information and data to better engage with customers across the internet. You might see, if you're shopping for shoes, you might see that across. We can do that through our DSP and better targeting. We know that's where the world is going. Moving from linear to connected TV, moving to full-funnel experiences, our suppliers and our sellers are coming to us and saying it's great that you have the onsite stuff. It's great in performance. We have so many other business challenges and marketing challenges, and we need your help. How do we reach a broad-based customer? We have new products that no one knows about. That's where the world is moving towards. That's why the partnership is so important because now we can collapse the funnel or the upper funnel to the lower funnel and deliver more experiences for our customers and more value to our customers, and then more value to suppliers and sellers who are looking to advertise in different ways. Great. The data that Walmart has with your customers is remarkable. Maybe just talk about how you guys can provide some of that first-party large-scale data to your marketing partners to allow for more targeted marketing to customers. Yeah. Everything we try to do makes sure we don't lose trust of our customers. It's all safe the way we manage it. We don't turn it over. We manage it, and we make sure that advertisers come into our platforms in a secure way to be able to use it as targeting, whether that's onsite, whether that is in select in-store. If you're coming into the store, we have in-store mode through our digital experiences or offsite. It's about understanding what is the objective they're trying to have. If it's an upper funnel, like I have a broad-based message and I need to reach new customers, or all the way down to I just need to drive velocity or drive the shelf and understanding what those needs are, then we can better target through understanding the customers and what they're trying to do in their journey, whether that is a, you know what, I'm coming in for my daily grocery. I need to get in and out. How do we provide the things that we know they buy on a regular basis versus I'm in a shopping mode or I'm in a discovery mode that we can maybe open the aperture a little more and deliver products or services? We look also, we represent. Traditionally, we looked at our business from a supply, demand, and performance perspective. From a supply perspective, that's like all the stuff I showed you on the experiences that we can provide. From a demand perspective, we also have advertisers or suppliers and sellers of all sizes, the largest CPGs all the way down to the smallest marketplace sellers. They might have different needs at the marketplace level. They might just need a transaction or they have a product. Think about advertising in a way where in the past, maybe in the stores where a marketplace seller didn't have access to a product, digitally in the digital shelf, now they have that opportunity. They can come on. They can get to the search in-grid. If someone, let's say it's water, it's Rich's water, they can now be delivered to that customer because we know it's relevant. What we find in the marketplace needs that boost even more. What we find is like six to seven times the amount of propensity of sales happen for sellers that advertise with us versus not advertising with us. It really opens the aperture for everybody to compete at scale on the platform. OK. Are there strategic advantages then with VIZIO, who brings its own set of video data with your own customer data? Yes. How do you integrate that? It's a great question. We try to do it in the right way, again making sure that we protect our customers through this partnership and making sure now that we can take that information and data and better deliver messages that are more relevant to that consumer or that customer. It eliminates a lot of waste. It eliminates wrong messages. We want to deliver more value. Again, customers first, deliver more value to that customer and make their experience better, give them things either they love or they didn't even know they loved that they wanted to see, all the way down to now getting them to consider. There are lots of experiences we can build now through the VIZIO at that level. All the way down, what we can do now is see on a daily basis when someone saw an ad, what happened in that conversion. That also helps us make the customer experience better because we know it's going to be more relevant because we want to deliver that, but also for the advertiser or the supplier or seller or now even non-endemics, non-endemic for us being someone that doesn't sell on Walmart, insurance companies, car companies, giving them a better signal to be able to target. If they are endemic, what actually happened? If they're non-endemic, we're using third parties to tell them what happened. I think that's an important point. I think in terms of being able to open up the customer base, when you look at connected TV, it has a broad swath of advertisers that are there. Rich referenced insurance, automotive, media and entertainment. I shared earlier, I'm getting used to the term endemic at Walmart because endemic for us had always been media and entertainment. This was point of sale. This was the best way for media and entertainment companies to drive people into their app experiences. When you look at bringing them down the funnel or leveraging those signals, this gives the opportunity for somebody who is an automotive advertiser to maybe understand, look, yes, they're not going to buy a car at Walmart. There's a lot of automotive-related products that are being sold at Walmart. How can I leverage those signals to be smarter about the advertising I'm making, the environment I'm making within a video or a brand awareness environment? How can I ultimately help look at that to help drive sales on the back end? OK. That was a lot of great detail on Walmart, and I think some of the questions around strategic rationale. I'm wondering if you could just zoom out to 40,000 ft and just talk about the industry and what you've observed in retail media overall over the last one to two years. What are kind of the mega trends that you've observed? Yeah. It's a great question. First off, retail media was nonexistent 10 years ago. It started to build up. The notion of a strong first-party signal has always been powerful. It's just been hard to get to that, to link the actual sale to a media channel. The TAM, they say for retail media over the next couple of years, is $100 billion. Digital media is hundreds of billions of dollars. Add in traditional media, it gets even larger. The notion of first-party data is going to be infused into media. Retail media is going to be retail, and retail media is going to be media. This notion of better signals is really important. There are a couple of trends that we're seeing, and Mike and I can probably build, which is because retail media and then traditional media are kind of blending together. For us, we see in retail media, and I'll let Mike do the broader one. For retail media, we see a couple of things. One is full funnel, as I talked about. Things are moving from this performance base to upper funnel because clients or advertisers are asking us to solve different questions and solutions and marketing problems. I said scale, signals, and solutions. This notion of scale, advertisers, they can't go to 100 places, thousands of places. They do, but trying to limit the amount of where the resources are to get to the largest group of customers is going to be really important. This notion of full funnel, they're going to probably focus on a couple of big players in the marketplace. The second one is marketplace, which is this notion of 1P has been so strong from an advertising perspective, but 3P and the notion of tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of smaller sellers on platforms like Walmart are starting to explode. We have to build solutions that meet the needs of all of those clients or advertisers or sellers or suppliers. Full funnel is happening. Marketplace is really key. Mike, I don't know if you want to kind of go to the TV. I can touch on connected TV. Connected TV. Connected TV in general, just at a 40,000-ft level, I mean, I think it's well known that connected TV is overtaking traditional or linear television. I think the expectation is by 2027, more dollars will be spent in connected TV than in traditional television. In traditional television, a majority of that is really still tied to sports. We're seeing this massive shift. To what Rich was talking about, we were recently just at Cannes. When we talked to every major CMO and every executive at advertising agencies, the core themes or investments that they were looking to make are around retail media and connected TV. Those were the two biggest topics, well, and AI, of course, the three biggest topics that were on their minds. How can they get better positioned within those different investment areas? I think what that ultimately brings to, and I think Rich touched on it, when you have that full-funnel solution through signals, solutions, and scale, they're now thinking of us not necessarily just as a retailer, but they're thinking of Walmart as a media company. Interesting. As you talked a little bit about smaller retailers and CTV, and maybe CTV being a better fit for brand and for larger businesses, how are you seeing the opportunity there and the ability to bring small businesses into CTV? I think being able to, I think Rich used the example, what was it, Rich's Water? Yeah, that's great. In terms of Rich's Water, when you have the ability to have these strong signals, it enables us to open up the environment to new types of advertisers because they can get more personalized, more specific. They can ultimately measure on the back end. If you have Rich's Water competing with a much larger brand, they know that they can come to VIZIO or they can come to our platform or our operating system. They're going to be able to get more value out of the brand ad that they're putting in than necessarily they would by making a broad-based reach buy that historically has been very expensive or you need to invest a lot of dollars against. This is an interesting sort of phenomenon that's happening because of technology, AI, automation. Our business, of course, we service the largest CPG and advertisers. We have teams set up for that. This business is moving to a more automated self-serve sort of system that agencies and buyers across all marketers are really utilizing on themselves. Traditionally, we have said, the large advertisers, you have to spend $100 million or whatever the number is. Smaller sellers or advertisers, because of the precision and elimination of waste, they can buy one ad. In our system, they can spend a couple hundred dollars if they want. You don't have to be the biggest advertiser. That just opens up the aperture for so many marketers like Rich's Water or whoever to advertise on performance-based media like retail media. As we start to integrate into an automated performance-based auction, now they can come in and just buy one ad, two ads, three ads, and make it really precision in the market or the demo or the geography that you want. It changes the game. It opens up for everybody on a playing field that is so different than it was in the past. Maybe if I could bring that to life, I was thinking of maybe I'll be the Chief Marketing Officer of Rich's Water. Thank you. I'm selling to Walmart. I'm engaged with the merchants. Give me the sales pitch because I'm doing a little bit of advertising somewhere else already. Why am I going to now move some of my ad dollars over to Walmart Connect? Yeah. The first thing I would say, which is we keep the relationship, some people have asked us about trade. First of all, the negotiation with the merchant on price or whatever you're doing, like NCAP promotion or whatever, that's with the merchant. You do that. Separately, we will come in and have a demand sort of driving growth conversation. The conversation with the merchant is the merchant. It's about, again, trying to get the best price for our customer. Ultimately, for us, it depends on what your business objective is. What I always say to clients is, give me a brief. They always say, well, we just want to do this, this. I'm like, if you can give me just like two words, I don't need like a long brief. I just need like a couple words. Do you have a new product? Are you launching that new product in a completely different way? Is it in a specific geography? Is it a limited-time offer? Is it an existing product you're just trying to build some share? Are you losing share? Are you going after? There are so many permutations. The sale is, let me help you solve your business challenges and marketing challenges and get to the right customers. If we can get to the right customers and add value to their experience, we'll do fine on the money. We'll get the advertising dollars. Let's solve the customer challenge first. That's the pitch. I'm saying it's working because it's about growth. Who doesn't want growth? We can give you the efficiency metrics. We can give you all that stuff. Really, the message is, how do we help you grow in new and different ways or creative ways? That's the pitch. Maybe for both of you on kind of a retail media side and CTV, what are the major pain points by customer type? What are maybe the technology features we need to look out for in the next year or two that can kind of stimulate the next leg of growth? Are you saying customer being the advertiser or customer being the advertiser? Customer being the advertiser, yeah. I think Mike kind of talked about this notion of AI. I'll give AI and I'll give scale. I'll go back to the first one, which is they are dealing with so much complexity in the marketplace. Finding customers is always challenging efficiently as I kind of opened up. That's going to be an ongoing problem to try to figure out how do I reach customers in the right way. The integration of AI is going to make it easier and harder in other ways because AI will infuse into every part of information and data that will make the signal even stronger and better at the same time. That's really good for the customer. It's going to be closer to what they're looking for. It'll open up also new opportunities for advertisers to eliminate waste in many ways and also reach the customer. I would just say the only thing I would add is that people ask me about AI and search and what is it going to do. I do think search will still be really viable. It'll just be better. People will pay for the right to add relevancy products to that search mechanism. What is really important with VIZIO is the viewing patterns are also being infused with knowing more about the customer and add more value into the experience of the content itself. Yeah, I mean, I think it's around, I think you touched on it. It's around search and discovery. How can we leverage AI to create a better experience on the platform? I touched on it earlier around the flywheel. The more engagement that we have on the platform, the more engagement that we can drive into what's a good value for our customers is ultimately going to help advertisers on the back end. I think being able to leverage AI through the search and discovery process to be able to source or be able to help customers find what they want to watch, what is the right movie for family night that I want to see, how easy is it for me to get there within one click or two clicks, what's the right service for me to subscribe to, what's the right content that's available at all different price ranges across the platform? I think AI can continue to make that easier, more seamless, and ultimately a better experience that's more engagement is better for the advertiser. Just think about even make it shoppable where you have movie night with the family. What do you need? You need popcorn. You need one click, and you can just get that all delivered to your house in a half hour. Yeah. We think about it as a connected commerce experience. How do we bring more of a connected commerce experience to the platform? Understanding, I think 80% today, 80% of VIZIO customers are Walmart shoppers. We expect that or hope that continues to increase. That's the reason why Walmart, one of the reasons Walmart acquired us, if I didn't touch on that, is to be able to get into more homes where those Walmart shoppers are at. If we can understand those Walmart shoppers, those needs, they're in that lean-back experience or different environment than maybe they are on Walmart.com or on the app, we can showcase to them different things or different products or opportunities that may fit what they want. That is interesting. 80% VIZIO is already Walmart, so there's already some good customer overlap. You guys are now 10 months into the acquisition. How is the integration going so far? Are there any key highlights you'd like to flag for us? The integration is going great for anyone asking. I think it was very, the integration was very seamless for us because Walmart was already VIZIO's top customer. We've been working together for over 15 years on the hardware side, and we had already had these great meetings ahead of time. Really, I didn't use this example earlier in the acquisition, but part of the acquisition was formed around this kind of aha moment we had in the Dallas meeting where we got together different parts of the business to talk about different strategic opportunities that we could have to serve the Walmart customer better on our platform. In that, we were able to unlock a lot of different opportunities and ideas. There was one, obviously, how do we get more Walmart customers to have the operating system itself? How do we create that better customer experience that's more seamless? How do we integrate leveraging the signals we have? Combined with that, how working together with Rich and the Walmart Connect team, can we leverage those signals to create a better advertising experience? We kind of had the playbook already understood just because we've worked so closely together for so long. It's made for a very seamless integration. I'll just add too, just from we kind of talked about endemic, non-endemic for us. As to remind you, endemic is people that sell on Walmart. Non-endemic are companies or brands like cars or insurance or financial services that don't really sell on Walmart. We traditionally have just been focused on the large CPGs or, as I said, the marketplace sellers. We didn't reach out. The VIZIO team has somewhat reversed. They have their endemic, the entertainment platforms. We sell like IP, like entertainment products. For the movie space and streaming space, we traditionally haven't had advertisers of that level. Our platform is so large, as I said, scale. It allows entertainment companies now to have access to be able to market in different ways, not just like on the VIZIO platform. It can bring it all the way through to the site to sell if it is a movie or it is streaming, but also the IP, the products that they have and make it fully seamless integration of promotion. If they're also a car company, insurance, we have rich data. We are one of the largest auto repair. We have a rich set of data to be able to engage with customers and know a lot about customers. They sell a lot to car companies and others. We are looking at it in completely different ways now where we can fully integrate the platforms and the stacks to meet the needs of the advertisers. Each one has a kind of a different challenge. A movie might say, like opening weekend is like the most critical sort of thing. How can we build a promotion around that opening weekend in a completely different way? If you're a car company and you're launching a new product or insurance or whatever, we can think holistically. We want to keep people on Walmart. At the same time, we have lots of opportunities, whether that's in-store or post-checkout, to add features. Even with our Walmart Connect, we have a lot of features that aren't specifically about the selling and the endemic sort of stuff. It's opening up completely new avenues for us. For me, which is probably one of the more exciting things, is besides adding real value to customers, it's looking at the business in a completely different way. Traditionally, I'm sure there's many people like, oh, retail media, it's just retail. They think of another company like Meta or whatever. It's like an advertising company or a social media platform. It's all of these things now coming together in a completely different way, which, one, I'm excited as a marketer or as an ad sales. It opens up completely new opportunities for revenue, allowing our customers to really engage in different ways. That's sort of exciting. I love to solve, I always love to solve business challenges. I am a marketer at heart. When big CPGs or even the smaller companies come to us with these business challenges, I'm like, oh, we can solve that. Before, I would be like, I don't know, maybe I have to partner with this. Now we can solve all these business problems. To me, as a marketer, that is so exciting. That's very interesting. Let's see. One part of the integration that I thought was interesting too is the announcement a month or two ago that you were going to make VIZIO now an in-house brand. Tom and I worked on this. Walmart was the biggest VIZIO customer, but it was not, there's still less than 50% of sales. You're kind of leaving greater than 50% of your sales to now focus specifically on Walmart with the end goal of getting VIZIO TVs in as many living rooms as possible. Just talk about the strategic rationale of bringing VIZIO to become an in-house brand now. Yeah. I would say there were some market dynamics to that in the sense that once we became owned by Walmart, there were some retailers that not necessarily wanted to work with us or give money to Walmart as expected. When you look at how do you best serve the customer, when you think of the On brand and VIZIO, it's really about Walmart's always been about, from a merchant perspective, good, better, best. How do you create great price points or great value? When you talk about how's the integration going, we share a very similar culture. That culture has always been about giving high quality at an affordable price. That's value or EDLP in my new world. When you look at that, the opportunity for us to become a private label enables us to look at that good, better, best model and be able to create a better experience across that ecosystem, whether that's opening price point, whether that's mid-range, or whether that's the higher-end, latest, greatest technology out there in the marketplace. I think when we look at, you touched on some numbers, but Walmart sells a lot of televisions at Sam's Club. I think between Onn and VIZIO combined already, we're about 50% of the televisions at Walmart. It enables us to give this same operating system experience, be able to leverage those same signals to be able to give a great customer experience across both the Onn and VIZIO operating systems that are sold at Walmart. OK. I think just to clarify too, the VIZIO operating system will move on to the Onn TVs. Yeah. We made that announcement that at the end of this year, we'll start rolling out the VIZIO operating system on Onn TVs. OK. Mike, I'm wondering, just as a technology analyst, I'm very curious your perspective. What's kind of your latest thought on the CTV market in the broadest sense? I'm wondering if you perceive like 2024 and that experience around the election as kind of like a seminal transition point for the industry. I'm very bullish on the connected TV industry. We see that. If you look at all the trends, you look at just our television. We have, as you know from covering us for years, viewing data. We have a technology built into the television that enables us to see what's happening on those TVs. We understand what people are watching, whether that's linear television, streaming, a stick or dongle plugged in, or on a gaming console. We know what the viewing habits of the customer are. We have seen, as of recently, 66% of time spent when someone's on a television is spent streaming. Now less than 30%, I think it's almost, I'll call it less than 30% of time is spent in a linear television environment. In terms of just time spent, in terms of habits and shifts, the customers are moving to streaming. Or I shouldn't say are moving. They have moved to streaming. We saw in this last political election more and more dollars being pumped into connected television. That was for a couple of reasons, not specifically to talk about political. As an overall of the market, you can leverage what the benefits of linear television are, sights on emotion, driving great brand awareness, great brand lift. You can also layer on what's best about a digital environment. You can layer on the personalization. You can layer on different measurement opportunities. You can help plan those campaigns and optimize those campaigns better. I think I mentioned earlier, by 2027, we expect connected television investment to outpace linear TV. As we continue to work more closely with Walmart Connect, as well as continue to build our base, continue to build out our owned and operated environments, we see a big opportunity in both video and display. OK. Great. Maybe just to wrap it up, provide a lot of good content. Just to summarize for each of you, we'll start with Rich and we'll go to Mike. What are you most excited about looking forward now as a combined business to really drive the connect and advertising growth at Walmart? Yeah. If I'm repetitive, I apologize. To me, what I'm excited about is this notion of solving business challenges for our suppliers and sellers. It's adding more value to the customer experience. When I look at retail media, it is growing. We said it's a $100 billion total addressable market over the next couple of years. It'll be infused into all digital. When you talk about digital media, you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars. I say millions, billions, billions of dollars. When you add in all media, you're talking about a large, so the world is moving in this direction. What clients are asking us is that full-funnel. I'm excited about allowing suppliers and sellers of all sizes to be able to benefit from the notion of retail media. Launching new brands is pretty exciting. Seeing all this growth happen at Walmart, moving from like 60 years ago to the stores to this digital business. We're growing in that, again, because we're doing a lot of value for customers in that experience. You layer on top of that this notion of retail media and adding value to the customer experience with providing more diversity of products and a more assortment for the customer and seeing all of that really benefit. I would just say if I leave one thing, if I can leave you just like this notion of scale, signals, and solutions. If you're going to do an analysis of retail media itself or media overall, it is going to be hard for suppliers or advertisers to go everywhere because it's just going to be too fragmented. Scale is going to be really important for them to invest their dollars. The signals are really important. What do you understand about the customer? Can I do better engagement with that customer and more relevancy for that customer? To me, the solutions, so companies or platforms that have solutions that are interesting and engaging that can be very relevant and show the sale, not just the sale, but also the incrementality. The platforms that can do all that are going to succeed. It's a large marketplace. Walmart's going to be one of those because we're trying to think about it the right way, customer first. We'll make money. We're going to grow. We focus with the customer. I'll leave you with that, that scale, that signals, and the solutions is really important as you do analysis of these. OK. That's a great answer. Mike, what are you excited about? It's tough to follow. I'm excited because Rich is excited. We're excited to work with you, buddy. I'm excited because Rich is excited. I think Rich touched on it. It's the opportunity to serve the customer better. When I say that, it's multiple different customers. It's the Walmart customer. It's the viewers that we have on the operating system today. We can create a much better experience. I think you know from our business moving from VIZIO into a much larger organization, it gives us the opportunity to invest and drive more resources into creating that better customer experience, helping customers find what they want to watch better, helping advertisers on the back end recognize who their customers are, how they can deliver them better advertising or more relevant advertising, and ultimately how they can measure it on the back end. I think we have a huge opportunity to continue to serve our customers better. I think the opportunity will continue to accelerate. Great. Thank you guys for being here. This was awesome. Thank you for having us. Thank you very much. Yeah, thanks, everyone.

Speaker 2: Thank you very much, everyone. Thanks for your patience. Welcome to our Retail Media Discussion with Walmart at the Piper Sandler Growth Frontiers Conference. My name is Peter Keith. I'm the Senior Research Analyst covering consumer hard lines and broad lines. I'm joined by my colleague and friend, Tom Champion. He's a Senior Research Analyst covering the internet companies in the technology space. Quick introductions for who we have on stage. I think two of the most knowledgeable people around retail media are with me. We have Rich Lehrfeld, who's a Senior Vice President and General Manager of Walmart Connect. We have Michael O'Donnell, who is a Vice President and Chief Revenue Officer of VIZIO. Thank you both for coming today. Thank you very much, everyone. thank you very much everyone Thanks for your patience. thanks for your patience Welcome to our Retail Media Discussion with Walmart at the Piper Sandler Growth Frontiers Conference. welcome to our retail media discussion with walmart at the piper sandler growth frontiers conference My name is Peter Keith. my name is peter keith I'm the Senior Research Analyst covering consumer hard lines and broad lines. i'm the senior research analyst covering consumer hard lines and broad lines I'm joined by my colleague and friend, Tom Champion. i'm joined by my colleague and friend tom champion He's a Senior Research Analyst covering the internet companies in the technology space. he's a senior research analyst covering the internet companies in the technology space Quick introductions for who we have on stage. quick introductions for who we have on stage I think two of the most knowledgeable people around retail media are with me. i think two of the most knowledgeable people around retail media are with me We have Rich Lehrfeld, who's a Senior Vice President and General Manager of Walmart Connect. we have rich lehrfeld who's a senior vice president and general manager of walmart connect We have Michael O'Donnell, who is a Vice President and Chief Revenue Officer of VIZIO. we have michael o'donnell who is a vice president and chief revenue officer of vizio Thank you both for coming today. thank you both for coming today

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good. OK. Just as a quick introduction, many of you may know, but if you don't, Walmart did acquire VIZIO. Officially closed in December of 2024. This is very new. I see potential. They've created one of the most powerful retail media networks in the world. I think there's a lot of opportunity long term. We're going to dig into that. Why don't we just kick it off? We're going to give the first question to Rich. Just help educate the audience. What do you see at a high level that retail media is today and exactly how it's evolving? Yeah, we're good. yeah we're good OK. ok Just as a quick introduction, many of you may know, but if you don't, Walmart did acquire VIZIO. just as a quick introduction many of you may know but if you don't walmart did acquire vizio Officially closed in December of 2024. officially closed in december of 2024 This is very new. this is very new I see potential. i see potential They've created one of the most powerful retail media networks in the world. they've created one of the most powerful retail media networks in the world I think there's a lot of opportunity long term. i think there's a lot of opportunity long term We're going to dig into that. we're going to dig into that Why don't we just kick it off? why don't we just kick it off We're going to give the first question to Rich. we're going to give the first question to rich Just help educate the audience. just help educate the audience What do you see at a high level that retail media is today and exactly how it's evolving? what do you see at a high level that retail media is today and exactly how it's evolving

Speaker 1: Yeah. Thank you for having us. Appreciate the time. I know some people don't know retail media. If it's OK, I'll start with a little what retail media is. I'll walk you through it. I'll try to do it as quick as possible. Cut me off at any point. For those who don't know, retail media is really actionable, performance-based media that is infused with first-party data. Strong first-party signals, customer information about our customers. If you OK, I'm going to kind of bring you back to bring you forward. I was a longtime media buyer. I started in the days of traditional media. I was a buyer of TV and print and all the other areas. Back in the day, it was really a broad-based media. We would buy Seinfeld or Friends, and 30% of the country would see the ads. Yeah. yeah Thank you for having us. thank you for having us Appreciate the time. appreciate the time I know some people don't know retail media. i know some people don't know retail media If it's OK, I'll start with a little what retail media is. if it's ok i'll start with a little what retail media is I'll walk you through it. i'll walk you through it I'll try to do it as quick as possible. i'll try to do it as quick as possible Cut me off at any point. cut me off at any point For those who don't know, retail media is really actionable, performance-based media that is infused with first-party data. for those who don't know retail media is really actionable performance-based media that is infused with first-party data Strong first-party signals, customer information about our customers. strong first-party signals customer information about our customers If you OK, I'm going to kind of bring you back to bring you forward. if you ok i'm going to kind of bring you back to bring you forward I was a longtime media buyer. i was a longtime media buyer I started in the days of traditional media. i started in the days of traditional media I was a buyer of TV and print and all the other areas. i was a buyer of tv and print and all the other areas Back in the day, it was really a broad-based media. back in the day it was really a broad-based media We would buy Seinfeld or Friends, and 30% of the country would see the ads. we would buy seinfeld or friends and 30% of the country would see the ads We could see sales the next day because it was just a very broad-based media. The world has changed. We all know. The world of media is fragmented down to interest levels, down to how we view whether that is TV or social or digital. It's very complicated and difficult for a media buyer or for marketers to really win in the space or get people to buy their products. With that, it makes it probably less efficient and makes it less efficient to buy media, more expensive to buy media, very hard to find your customers. The key is, for our buyer, you need better targeting. You need more efficiency. You need more action to be able to sell the products and at scale. Walmart or retail media allows you to have that, especially Walmart, which is we provide scale. We provide solutions. We provide signals. We could see sales the next day because it was just a very broad-based media. we could see sales the next day because it was just a very broad-based media The world has changed. the world has changed We all know. we all know The world of media is fragmented down to interest levels, down to how we view whether that is TV or social or digital. the world of media is fragmented down to interest levels down to how we view whether that is tv or social or digital It's very complicated and difficult for a media buyer or for marketers to really win in the space or get people to buy their products. it's very complicated and difficult for a media buyer or for marketers to really win in the space or get people to buy their products With that, it makes it probably less efficient and makes it less efficient to buy media, more expensive to buy media, very hard to find your customers. with that it makes it probably less efficient and makes it less efficient to buy media more expensive to buy media very hard to find your customers The key is, for our buyer, you need better targeting. the key is for our buyer you need better targeting You need more efficiency. you need more efficiency You need more action to be able to sell the products and at scale. you need more action to be able to sell the products and at scale Walmart or retail media allows you to have that, especially Walmart, which is we provide scale. walmart or retail media allows you to have that especially walmart which is we provide scale We provide solutions. we provide solutions We provide signals. we provide signals Retail media has moved into this space where traditionally has. I can do the full funnel next. Probably should have done that one first. Actually, let me go one page. OK. When I talk full funnel, I say funnel. A traditional funnel in marketing starts with awareness. It's a broad-based media, consideration, and then a customer will buy something. The loop happens, maybe a loyalty loop around. Traditionally, advertising was, as I said, when you're buying, it's the awareness set. Retail media traditionally has been in the conversion. You go onto a site, so Walmart.com or the app, and we show you search. You search for a laundry detergent. You get search, and we know that influences sales. You can also get display. You can do lots of things. Where retail media is really starting to get to is a point where now you can reach customers. Retail media has moved into this space where traditionally has. retail media has moved into this space where traditionally has I can do the full funnel next. i can do the full funnel next Probably should have done that one first. probably should have done that one first Actually, let me go one page. actually let me go one page OK. ok When I talk full funnel, I say funnel. when i talk full funnel i say funnel A traditional funnel in marketing starts with awareness. a traditional funnel in marketing starts with awareness It's a broad-based media, consideration, and then a customer will buy something. it's a broad-based media consideration and then a customer will buy something The loop happens, maybe a loyalty loop around. the loop happens maybe a loyalty loop around Traditionally, advertising was, as I said, when you're buying, it's the awareness set. traditionally advertising was as i said when you're buying it's the awareness set Retail media traditionally has been in the conversion. retail media traditionally has been in the conversion You go onto a site, so Walmart.com or the app, and we show you search. you go onto a site so walmart.com or the app and we show you search You search for a laundry detergent. you search for a laundry detergent You get search, and we know that influences sales. you get search and we know that influences sales You can also get display. you can also get display You can do lots of things. you can do lots of things Where retail media is really starting to get to is a point where now you can reach customers. where retail media is really starting to get to is a point where now you can reach customers I'm going to go back. Thank you. Online, you can get them in store, or you can get them across the internet. If you've been shopping on the internet, you're searching for shoes, you know sometimes you'll see shoes. Retail media can be first-party infused information and be able to reach customers wherever they are. Scale, solutions, and signals are really important. For Walmart, we have 150 million customers, so we have scale. Solutions, we have a broad array of solutions, as I just showed you right here. You can get them on the app. We can reach you in social media. We can get you in the stores. We can get you across the web in our pickup and delivery. You can reach with messages, advertising messages, and these are very targeted messages. It's infused with first-party data to do better targeting, allows the advertiser to do optimization. I'm going to go back. i'm going to go back Thank you. thank you Online, you can get them in store, or you can get them across the internet. online you can get them in store or you can get them across the internet If you've been shopping on the internet, you're searching for shoes, you know sometimes you'll see shoes. if you've been shopping on the internet you're searching for shoes you know sometimes you'll see shoes Retail media can be first-party infused information and be able to reach customers wherever they are. retail media can be first-party infused information and be able to reach customers wherever they are Scale, solutions, and signals are really important. scale solutions and signals are really important For Walmart, we have 150 million customers, so we have scale. for walmart we have 150 million customers so we have scale Solutions, we have a broad array of solutions, as I just showed you right here. solutions we have a broad array of solutions as i just showed you right here You can get them on the app. you can get them on the app We can reach you in social media. we can reach you in social media We can get you in the stores. we can get you in the stores We can get you across the web in our pickup and delivery. we can get you across the web in our pickup and delivery You can reach with messages, advertising messages, and these are very targeted messages. you can reach with messages advertising messages and these are very targeted messages It's infused with first-party data to do better targeting, allows the advertiser to do optimization. it's infused with first-party data to do better targeting allows the advertiser to do optimization On a real-time basis, we can get signals and understand where sales are happening and then show that sales. Retail media, and specifically Walmart, allows for scale, signals, so the data on 150 million customers on a weekly basis, and then solutions, solutions to be able to onsite, offsite, or in store. It's a really powerful medium. Retail media and Walmart allow you to be able to do that. On a real-time basis, we can get signals and understand where sales are happening and then show that sales. on a real-time basis we can get signals and understand where sales are happening and then show that sales Retail media, and specifically Walmart, allows for scale, signals, so the data on 150 million customers on a weekly basis, and then solutions, solutions to be able to onsite, offsite, or in store. retail media and specifically walmart allows for scale signals so the data on 150 million customers on a weekly basis and then solutions solutions to be able to onsite offsite or in store It's a really powerful medium. it's a really powerful medium Retail media and Walmart allow you to be able to do that. retail media and walmart allow you to be able to do that

Speaker 2: OK. Let's talk a little bit about VIZIO and the CTV opportunity. Obviously, a big acquisition for you guys last year. Maybe just level set, Rich. Why did you make this acquisition? OK. ok Let's talk a little bit about VIZIO and the C TV opportunity. let's talk a little bit about vizio and the c tv opportunity Obviously, a big acquisition for you guys last year. obviously a big acquisition for you guys last year Maybe just level set, Rich. maybe just level set rich Why did you make this acquisition? why did you make this acquisition

Speaker 1: I'll let Mike answer first because he has probably a better history and can talk about why don't you start, Mike, and then I'll lead it. I'll let Mike answer first because he has probably a better history and can talk about why don't you start, Mike, and then I'll lead it. i'll let mike answer first because he has probably a better history and can talk about why don't you start mike and then i'll lead it

Speaker 3: Yeah. Before I get into why did Walmart acquire us, I think it's important for this group maybe to give a little education around what it is VIZIO has and what it is or how we make money or how we're going to make money from Walmart. Most of you likely know us as a TV maker. We've been that for the past 23 years, making high-quality televisions at an affordable price. As that business has declined both in price and margin, our core business is really around our operating system. Our operating system—oh, good job, Rich. You were able to flip to it—our operating system is a key part of the flywheel. Our flywheel, in terms of how we make money, is we need to sell a lot of televisions. We need to get our customers to activate those televisions. Yeah. yeah Before I get into why did Walmart acquire us, I think it's important for this group maybe to give a little education around what it is VIZIO has and what it is or how we make money or how we're going to make money from Walmart. before i get into why did walmart acquire us i think it's important for this group maybe to give a little education around what it is vizio has and what it is or how we make money or how we're going to make money from walmart Most of you likely know us as a TV maker. most of you likely know us as a tv maker We've been that for the past 23 years, making high-quality televisions at an affordable price. we've been that for the past 23 years making high-quality televisions at an affordable price As that business has declined both in price and margin, our core business is really around our operating system. as that business has declined both in price and margin our core business is really around our operating system Our operating system—oh, good job, Rich. our operating system—oh good job rich You were able to flip to it—our operating system is a key part of the flywheel. you were able to flip to it—our operating system is a key part of the flywheel Our flywheel, in terms of how we make money, is we need to sell a lot of televisions. our flywheel in terms of how we make money is we need to sell a lot of televisions We need to get our customers to activate those televisions. we need to get our customers to activate those televisions We need to get them spending a lot of time searching and discovering and using the content on our platforms. Ultimately, that's going to drive ARPU. We drive ARPU in a couple of different ways. We do it through subscriptions or bounties we get from subscription partners we have on the platform. That could be a Disney, Netflix, et cetera. We do that through a data licensing business, through our own first-party viewing data that we have. The largest way we do it is through advertising. We sell two different types of advertising to partners. One is—I'll kind of lean back here. You see Sonic 3. One is our display banners. That is our home screen. When you turn on the television, the first thing you see is this home screen today. We need to get them spending a lot of time searching and discovering and using the content on our platforms. we need to get them spending a lot of time searching and discovering and using the content on our platforms Ultimately, that's going to drive ARPU. ultimately that's going to drive arpu We drive ARPU in a couple of different ways. we drive arpu in a couple of different ways We do it through subscriptions or bounties we get from subscription partners we have on the platform. we do it through subscriptions or bounties we get from subscription partners we have on the platform That could be a Disney, Netflix, et cetera. that could be a disney netflix et cetera We do that through a data licensing business, through our own first-party viewing data that we have. we do that through a data licensing business through our own first-party viewing data that we have The largest way we do it is through advertising. the largest way we do it is through advertising We sell two different types of advertising to partners. we sell two different types of advertising to partners One is—I'll kind of lean back here. one is—i'll kind of lean back here You see Sonic 3. you see sonic 3 One is our display banners. one is our display banners That is our home screen. that is our home screen When you turn on the television, the first thing you see is this home screen today. when you turn on the television the first thing you see is this home screen today We use that to partner with advertisers like a Disney or a Max to be able to promote the TV shows they have, the movies they have, or drive more subscriptions or engagement time within those apps. We also have a video business in which we have WatchFree+, which is an owned and operated app that we have on our platform. You buy VIZIO television, take it out of the box, connect to the internet, and you automatically have 350 free channels and over 40,000 free ad-supported movies and TV shows. That's the business model we have. Why did Walmart acquire us? Walmart acquired us because they saw a same challenge. They are a large distributor of televisions in the marketplace. Our top customer is our top customer and was our top customer at VIZIO. We use that to partner with advertisers like a Disney or a Max to be able to promote the TV shows they have, the movies they have, or drive more subscriptions or engagement time within those apps. we use that to partner with advertisers like a disney or a max to be able to promote the tv shows they have the movies they have or drive more subscriptions or engagement time within those apps We also have a video business in which we have WatchFree+, which is an owned and operated app that we have on our platform. we also have a video business in which we have watchfree+ which is an owned and operated app that we have on our platform You buy VIZIO television, take it out of the box, connect to the internet, and you automatically have 350 free channels and over 40,000 free ad-supported movies and TV shows. you buy vizio television take it out of the box connect to the internet and you automatically have 350 free channels and over 40,000 free ad-supported movies and tv shows That's the business model we have. that's the business model we have Why did Walmart acquire us? why did walmart acquire us Walmart acquired us because they saw a same challenge. walmart acquired us because they saw a same challenge They are a large distributor of televisions in the marketplace. they are a large distributor of televisions in the marketplace Our top customer is our top customer and was our top customer at VIZIO. our top customer is our top customer and was our top customer at vizio They've seen the erosion of hardware prices and the margins there and saw that the big opportunity for the business was in the back end on the platform side. I think Rich actually just said it best in terms of scale, solutions, and signals. The opportunity that's in front of us is when you think of that flywheel with scale, Walmart sells a lot of televisions. Sam's Club sells a lot of televisions. We're able to generate a lot more volume in terms of building up the distribution of the operating system, getting it in front of more and more customers. In terms of solutions, we're able to connect the experience with the customers better. They've seen the erosion of hardware prices and the margins there and saw that the big opportunity for the business was in the back end on the platform side. they've seen the erosion of hardware prices and the margins there and saw that the big opportunity for the business was in the back end on the platform side I think Rich actually just said it best in terms of scale, solutions, and signals. i think rich actually just said it best in terms of scale solutions and signals The opportunity that's in front of us is when you think of that flywheel with scale, Walmart sells a lot of televisions. the opportunity that's in front of us is when you think of that flywheel with scale walmart sells a lot of televisions Sam's Club sells a lot of televisions. sam's club sells a lot of televisions We're able to generate a lot more volume in terms of building up the distribution of the operating system, getting it in front of more and more customers. we're able to generate a lot more volume in terms of building up the distribution of the operating system getting it in front of more and more customers In terms of solutions, we're able to connect the experience with the customers better. in terms of solutions we're able to connect the experience with the customers better When you think of Walmart and that experience of search and discovery, being able to connect a customer who's searching for a movie with their family to be able to say, not only here's the movie you want to watch, but also here's a pizza and a soda that you can get in the next hour delivered directly from Walmart. From a signal perspective, I think it unlocks the capability between Walmart Connect and VIZIO for advertisers. How do we create a better advertising experience? If we can generate a lot more scale, if we can have a very engaging experience, that's a great opportunity for advertisers to be able to leverage the signals, to create more personalized advertising, and ultimately be able to measure it on the back end. Rich showed the funnel. When you think of Walmart and that experience of search and discovery, being able to connect a customer who's searching for a movie with their family to be able to say, not only here's the movie you want to watch, but also here's a pizza and a soda that you can get in the next hour delivered directly from Walmart. when you think of walmart and that experience of search and discovery being able to connect a customer who's searching for a movie with their family to be able to say not only here's the movie you want to watch but also here's a pizza and a soda that you can get in the next hour delivered directly from walmart From a signal perspective, I think it unlocks the capability between Walmart Connect and VIZIO for advertisers. from a signal perspective i think it unlocks the capability between walmart connect and vizio for advertisers How do we create a better advertising experience? how do we create a better advertising experience If we can generate a lot more scale, if we can have a very engaging experience, that's a great opportunity for advertisers to be able to leverage the signals, to create more personalized advertising, and ultimately be able to measure it on the back end. if we can generate a lot more scale if we can have a very engaging experience that's a great opportunity for advertisers to be able to leverage the signals to create more personalized advertising and ultimately be able to measure it on the back end Rich showed the funnel. rich showed the funnel Being able to look top of the funnel, which VIZIO or video and TV really is, it's about brand awareness. It's about brand lift. It's about how do I drive reach. Being able to connect that with those signals that we can gain from Walmart Connect to be able to say, not only did you see this ad or were you watching this content and saw this ad, but you also made a purchase in store. Being able to look top of the funnel, which VIZIO or video and TV really is, it's about brand awareness. being able to look top of the funnel which vizio or video and tv really is it's about brand awareness It's about brand lift. it's about brand lift It's about how do I drive reach. it's about how do i drive reach Being able to connect that with those signals that we can gain from Walmart Connect to be able to say, not only did you see this ad or were you watching this content and saw this ad, but you also made a purchase in store. being able to connect that with those signals that we can gain from walmart connect to be able to say not only did you see this ad or were you watching this content and saw this ad but you also made a purchase in store

Speaker 1: I'll just add, I talked about this funnel. From a Walmart Connect or an advertising perspective, I'm going back. It's that funnel: awareness, consideration, and then purchase. We have a fast-growing advertising business and alternative revenue for Walmart. It's really about the customer. We announced last year about $4.4 billion last quarter for Walmart Connect, growing at 31%. That's not even including VIZIO. Globally, at 47%, including VIZIO. In the U.S., 60% with VIZIO. It's a fast-growing business. The revenue is important. It's really about our customers. It starts with our customers. From a Walmart Connect perspective, everything we do is customer-centric. We try to use information and data to be able to add more value to that customer experience. I'm Rich. Let's say it's this water. We now have that signal about you. How do you provide that water but also give you assortment and diversity? I'll just add, I talked about this funnel. i'll just add i talked about this funnel From a Walmart Connect or an advertising perspective, I'm going back. from a walmart connect or an advertising perspective i'm going back It's that funnel: awareness, consideration, and then purchase. it's that funnel awareness consideration and then purchase We have a fast-growing advertising business and alternative revenue for Walmart. we have a fast-growing advertising business and alternative revenue for walmart It's really about the customer. it's really about the customer We announced last year about $4.4 billion last quarter for Walmart Connect, growing at 31%. we announced last year about $4.4 billion last quarter for walmart connect growing at 31% That's not even including VIZIO. that's not even including vizio Globally, at 47%, including VIZIO. globally at 47% including vizio In the U.S., 60% with VIZIO. in the u.s 60% with vizio It's a fast-growing business. it's a fast-growing business The revenue is important. the revenue is important It's really about our customers. it's really about our customers It starts with our customers. it starts with our customers From a Walmart Connect perspective, everything we do is customer-centric. from a walmart connect perspective everything we do is customer-centric We try to use information and data to be able to add more value to that customer experience. we try to use information and data to be able to add more value to that customer experience I'm Rich. i'm rich Let's say it's this water. let's say it's this water We now have that signal about you. we now have that signal about you How do you provide that water but also give you assortment and diversity? how do you provide that water but also give you assortment and diversity We know that's part of the shopping experience. Traditionally, we have played at that lower part of the funnel, that demand side. You search. We now have that intent. We understand you as a customer, what you do, what you like. Traditionally, we've gone to that mid-funnel, maybe consideration. As the world and the aperture is opening with us, we've started this journey of going into connected TV and social and using information and data to better engage with customers across the internet. You might see, if you're shopping for shoes, you might see that across. We can do that through our DSP and better targeting. We know that's where the world is going. Moving from linear to connected TV, moving to full-funnel experiences, our suppliers and our sellers are coming to us and saying it's great that you have the onsite stuff. It's great in performance. We know that's part of the shopping experience. we know that's part of the shopping experience Traditionally, we have played at that lower part of the funnel, that demand side. traditionally we have played at that lower part of the funnel that demand side You search. you search We now have that intent. we now have that intent We understand you as a customer, what you do, what you like. we understand you as a customer what you do what you like Traditionally, we've gone to that mid-funnel, maybe consideration. traditionally we've gone to that mid-funnel maybe consideration As the world and the aperture is opening with us, we've started this journey of going into connected TV and social and using information and data to better engage with customers across the internet. as the world and the aperture is opening with us we've started this journey of going into connected tv and social and using information and data to better engage with customers across the internet You might see, if you're shopping for shoes, you might see that across. you might see if you're shopping for shoes you might see that across We can do that through our DSP and better targeting. we can do that through our dsp and better targeting We know that's where the world is going. we know that's where the world is going Moving from linear to connected TV, moving to full-funnel experiences, our suppliers and our sellers are coming to us and saying it's great that you have the onsite stuff. moving from linear to connected tv moving to full-funnel experiences our suppliers and our sellers are coming to us and saying it's great that you have the onsite stuff It's great in performance. it's great in performance We have so many other business challenges and marketing challenges, and we need your help. How do we reach a broad-based customer? We have new products that no one knows about. That's where the world is moving towards. That's why the partnership is so important because now we can collapse the funnel or the upper funnel to the lower funnel and deliver more experiences for our customers and more value to our customers, and then more value to suppliers and sellers who are looking to advertise in different ways. We have so many other business challenges and marketing challenges, and we need your help. we have so many other business challenges and marketing challenges and we need your help How do we reach a broad-based customer? how do we reach a broad-based customer We have new products that no one knows about. we have new products that no one knows about That's where the world is moving towards. that's where the world is moving towards That's why the partnership is so important because n ow we can collapse the funnel or the upper funnel to the lower funnel and deliver more experiences for our customers and more value to our customers, and then more value to suppliers and sellers who are looking to advertise in different ways. that's why the partnership is so important because n ow we can collapse the funnel or the upper funnel to the lower funnel and deliver more experiences for our customers and more value to our customers and then more value to suppliers and sellers who are looking to advertise in different ways

Speaker 2: Great. The data that Walmart has with your customers is remarkable. Maybe just talk about how you guys can provide some of that first-party large-scale data to your marketing partners to allow for more targeted marketing to customers. Great. great The data that Walmart has with your customers is remarkable. the data that walmart has with your customers is remarkable Maybe just talk about how you guys can provide some of that first-party large-scale data to your marketing partners to allow for more targeted marketing to customers. maybe just talk about how you guys can provide some of that first-party large-scale data to your marketing partners to allow for more targeted marketing to customers

Speaker 1: Yeah. Everything we try to do makes sure we don't lose trust of our customers. It's all safe the way we manage it. We don't turn it over. We manage it, and we make sure that advertisers come into our platforms in a secure way to be able to use it as targeting, whether that's onsite, whether that is in select in-store. If you're coming into the store, we have in-store mode through our digital experiences or offsite. It's about understanding what is the objective they're trying to have. Yeah. yeah Everything we try to do makes sure we don't lose trust of our customers. everything we try to do makes sure we don't lose trust of our customers It's all safe the way we manage it. it's all safe the way we manage it We don't turn it over. we don't turn it over We manage it, and we make sure that advertisers come into our platforms in a secure way to be able to use it as targeting, whether that's onsite, whether that is in select in-store. we manage it and we make sure that advertisers come into our platforms in a secure way to be able to use it as targeting whether that's onsite whether that is in select in-store If you're coming into the store, we have in-store mode through our digital experiences or offsite. if you're coming into the store we have in-store mode through our digital experiences or offsite It's about understanding what is the objective they're trying to have. it's about understanding what is the objective they're trying to have If it's an upper funnel, like I have a broad-based message and I need to reach new customers, or all the way down to I just need to drive velocity or drive the shelf and understanding what those needs are, then we can better target through understanding the customers and what they're trying to do in their journey, whether that is a, you know what, I'm coming in for my daily grocery. I need to get in and out. How do we provide the things that we know they buy on a regular basis versus I'm in a shopping mode or I'm in a discovery mode that we can maybe open the aperture a little more and deliver products or services? We look also, we represent. Traditionally, we looked at our business from a supply, demand, and performance perspective. If it's an upper funnel, like I have a broad-based message and I need to reach new customers, or all the way down to I just need to drive velocity or drive the shelf and understanding what those needs are, then we can better target through understanding the customers and what they're trying to do in their journey, whether that is a, you know what, I'm coming in for my daily grocery. if it's an upper funnel like i have a broad-based message and i need to reach new customers or all the way down to i just need to drive velocity or drive the shelf and understanding what those needs are then we can better target through understanding the customers and what they're trying to do in their journey whether that is a you know what i'm coming in for my daily grocery I need to get in and out. i need to get in and out How do we provide the things that we know they buy on a regular basis versus I'm in a shopping mode or I'm in a discovery mode that we can maybe open the aperture a little more and deliver products or services? how do we provide the things that we know they buy on a regular basis versus i'm in a shopping mode or i'm in a discovery mode that we can maybe open the aperture a little more and deliver products or services We look also, we represent. we look also we represent Traditionally, we looked at our business from a supply, demand, and performance perspective. traditionally we looked at our business from a supply demand and performance perspective From a supply perspective, that's like all the stuff I showed you on the experiences that we can provide. From a demand perspective, we also have advertisers or suppliers and sellers of all sizes, the largest CPGs all the way down to the smallest marketplace sellers. They might have different needs at the marketplace level. They might just need a transaction or they have a product. Think about advertising in a way where in the past, maybe in the stores where a marketplace seller didn't have access to a product, digitally in the digital shelf, now they have that opportunity. They can come on. They can get to the search in-grid. If someone, let's say it's water, it's Rich's water, they can now be delivered to that customer because we know it's relevant. What we find in the marketplace needs that boost even more. From a supply perspective, that's like all the stuff I showed you on the experiences that we can provide. from a supply perspective that's like all the stuff i showed you on the experiences that we can provide From a demand perspective, we also have advertisers or suppliers and sellers of all sizes, the largest CPGs all the way down to the smallest marketplace sellers. from a demand perspective we also have advertisers or suppliers and sellers of all sizes the largest cpgs all the way down to the smallest marketplace sellers They might have different needs at the marketplace level. they might have different needs at the marketplace level They might just need a transaction or they have a product. they might just need a transaction or they have a product Think about advertising in a way where in the past, maybe in the stores where a marketplace seller didn't have access to a product, digitally in the digital shelf, now they have that opportunity. think about advertising in a way where in the past maybe in the stores where a marketplace seller didn't have access to a product digitally in the digital shelf now they have that opportunity They can come on. they can come on They can get to the search in-grid. they can get to the search in-grid If someone, let's say it's water, it's Rich's water, they can now be delivered to that customer because we know it's relevant. if someone let's say it's water it's rich's water they can now be delivered to that customer because we know it's relevant What we find in the marketplace needs that boost even more. what we find in the marketplace needs that boost even more What we find is like six to seven times the amount of propensity of sales happen for sellers that advertise with us versus not advertising with us. It really opens the aperture for everybody to compete at scale on the platform. What we find is like six to seven times the amount of propensity of sales happen for sellers that advertise with us versus not advertising with us. what we find is like six to seven times the amount of propensity of sales happen for sellers that advertise with us versus not advertising with us It really opens the aperture for everybody to compete at scale on the platform. it really opens the aperture for everybody to compete at scale on the platform

Speaker 2: OK. Are there strategic advantages then with VIZIO, who brings its own set of video data with your own customer data? OK. ok Are there strategic advantages then with VIZIO, who brings its own set of video data with your own customer data? are there strategic advantages then with vizio who brings its own set of video data with your own customer data

Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. yes

Speaker 2: How do you integrate that? How do you integrate that? how do you integrate that

Speaker 1: It's a great question. We try to do it in the right way, again making sure that we protect our customers through this partnership and making sure now that we can take that information and data and better deliver messages that are more relevant to that consumer or that customer. It eliminates a lot of waste. It eliminates wrong messages. We want to deliver more value. Again, customers first, deliver more value to that customer and make their experience better, give them things either they love or they didn't even know they loved that they wanted to see, all the way down to now getting them to consider. There are lots of experiences we can build now through the VIZIO at that level. All the way down, what we can do now is see on a daily basis when someone saw an ad, what happened in that conversion. It's a great question. it's a great question We try to do it in the right way, again making sure that we protect our customers through this partnership and making sure now that we can take that information and data and better deliver messages that are more relevant to that consumer or that customer. we try to do it in the right way again making sure that we protect our customers through this partnership and making sure now that we can take that information and data and better deliver messages that are more relevant to that consumer or that customer It eliminates a lot of waste. it eliminates a lot of waste It eliminates wrong messages. it eliminates wrong messages We want to deliver more value. we want to deliver more value Again, customers first, deliver more value to that customer and make their experience better, give them things either they love or they didn't even know they loved that they wanted to see, all the way down to now getting them to consider. There are lots of experiences we can build now through the VIZIO at that level. again customers first deliver more value to that customer and make their experience better give them things either they love or they didn't even know they loved that they wanted to see all the way down to now getting them to consider. there are lots of experiences we can build now through the vizio at that level All the way down, what we can do now is see on a daily basis when someone saw an ad, what happened in that conversion. all the way down what we can do now is see on a daily basis when someone saw an ad what happened in that conversion That also helps us make the customer experience better because we know it's going to be more relevant because we want to deliver that, but also for the advertiser or the supplier or seller or now even non-endemics, non-endemic for us being someone that doesn't sell on Walmart, insurance companies, car companies, giving them a better signal to be able to target. If they are endemic, what actually happened? If they're non-endemic, we're using third parties to tell them what happened. That also helps us make the customer experience better because we know it's going to be more relevant because we want to deliver that, but also for the advertiser or the supplier or seller or now even non-endemics, non-endemic for us being someone that doesn't sell on Walmart, insurance companies, car companies, giving them a better signal to be able to target. that also helps us make the customer experience better because we know it's going to be more relevant because we want to deliver that but also for the advertiser or the supplier or seller or now even non-endemics non-endemic for us being someone that doesn't sell on walmart insurance companies car companies giving them a better signal to be able to target If they are endemic, what actually happened? if they are endemic what actually happened If they're non-endemic, we're using third parties to tell them what happened. if they're non-endemic we're using third parties to tell them what happened

Speaker 3: I think that's an important point. I think in terms of being able to open up the customer base, when you look at connected TV, it has a broad swath of advertisers that are there. Rich referenced insurance, automotive, media and entertainment. I shared earlier, I'm getting used to the term endemic at Walmart because endemic for us had always been media and entertainment. This was point of sale. This was the best way for media and entertainment companies to drive people into their app experiences. When you look at bringing them down the funnel or leveraging those signals, this gives the opportunity for somebody who is an automotive advertiser to maybe understand, look, yes, they're not going to buy a car at Walmart. There's a lot of automotive-related products that are being sold at Walmart. I think that's an important point. i think that's an important point I think in terms of being able to open up the customer base, when you look at connected TV, it has a broad swath of advertisers that are there. i think in terms of being able to open up the customer base when you look at connected tv it has a broad swath of advertisers that are there Rich referenced insurance, automotive, media and entertainment. rich referenced insurance automotive media and entertainment I shared earlier, I'm getting used to the term endemic at Walmart because endemic for us had always been media and entertainment. i shared earlier i'm getting used to the term endemic at walmart because endemic for us had always been media and entertainment This was point of sale. this was point of sale This was the best way for media and entertainment companies to drive people into their app experiences. this was the best way for media and entertainment companies to drive people into their app experiences When you look at bringing them down the funnel or leveraging those signals, this gives the opportunity for somebody who is an automotive advertiser to maybe understand, look, yes, they're not going to buy a car at Walmart. when you look at bringing them down the funnel or leveraging those signals this gives the opportunity for somebody who is an automotive advertiser to maybe understand look yes they're not going to buy a car at walmart There's a lot of automotive-related products that are being sold at Walmart. there's a lot of automotive-related products that are being sold at walmart How can I leverage those signals to be smarter about the advertising I'm making, the environment I'm making within a video or a brand awareness environment? How can I ultimately help look at that to help drive sales on the back end? How can I leverage those signals to be smarter about the advertising I'm making, the environment I'm making within a video or a brand awareness environment? how can i leverage those signals to be smarter about the advertising i'm making the environment i'm making within a video or a brand awareness environment How can I ultimately help look at that to help drive sales on the back end? how can i ultimately help look at that to help drive sales on the back end

Speaker 2: OK. That was a lot of great detail on Walmart, and I think some of the questions around strategic rationale. I'm wondering if you could just zoom out to 40,000 ft and just talk about the industry and what you've observed in retail media overall over the last one to two years. What are kind of the mega trends that you've observed? OK. ok That was a lot of great detail on Walmart, and I think some of the questions around strategic rationale. that was a lot of great detail on walmart and i think some of the questions around strategic rationale I'm wondering if you could just zoom out to 40,000 ft and just talk about the industry and what you've observed in retail media overall over the last one to two years. i'm wondering if you could just zoom out to 40,000 ft and just talk about the industry and what you've observed in retail media overall over the last one to two years What are kind of the mega trends that you've observed? what are kind of the mega trends that you've observed

Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a great question. First off, retail media was nonexistent 10 years ago. It started to build up. The notion of a strong first-party signal has always been powerful. It's just been hard to get to that, to link the actual sale to a media channel. The TAM, they say for retail media over the next couple of years, is $100 billion. Digital media is hundreds of billions of dollars. Add in traditional media, it gets even larger. The notion of first-party data is going to be infused into media. Retail media is going to be retail, and retail media is going to be media. This notion of better signals is really important. There are a couple of trends that we're seeing, and Mike and I can probably build, which is because retail media and then traditional media are kind of blending together. Yeah. yeah It's a great question. it's a great question First off, retail media was nonexistent 10 years ago. first off retail media was nonexistent 10 years ago It started to build up. it started to build up The notion of a strong first-party signal has always been powerful. the notion of a strong first-party signal has always been powerful It's just been hard to get to that, to link the actual sale to a media channel. it's just been hard to get to that to link the actual sale to a media channel The TAM, they say for retail media over the next couple of years, is $100 billion. the tam they say for retail media over the next couple of years, is $100 billion Digital media is hundreds of billions of dollars. digital media is hundreds of billions of dollars Add in traditional media, it gets even larger. add in traditional media it gets even larger The notion of first-party data is going to be infused into media. the notion of first-party data is going to be infused into media Retail media is going to be retail, and retail media is going to be media. retail media is going to be retail and retail media is going to be media This notion of better signals is really important. this notion of better signals is really important There are a couple of trends that we're seeing, and Mike and I can probably build, which is because retail media and then traditional media are kind of blending together. there are a couple of trends that we're seeing and mike and i can probably build which is because retail media and then traditional media are kind of blending together For us, we see in retail media, and I'll let Mike do the broader one. For retail media, we see a couple of things. One is full funnel, as I talked about. Things are moving from this performance base to upper funnel because clients or advertisers are asking us to solve different questions and solutions and marketing problems. I said scale, signals, and solutions. This notion of scale, advertisers, they can't go to 100 places, thousands of places. They do, but trying to limit the amount of where the resources are to get to the largest group of customers is going to be really important. This notion of full funnel, they're going to probably focus on a couple of big players in the marketplace. For us, we see in retail media, and I'll let Mike do the broader one. for us we see in retail media and i'll let mike do the broader one For retail media, we see a couple of things. for retail media we see a couple of things One is full funnel, as I talked about. one is full funnel as i talked about Things are moving from this performance base to upper funnel because clients or advertisers are asking us to solve different questions and solutions and marketing problems. things are moving from this performance base to upper funnel because clients or advertisers are asking us to solve different questions and solutions and marketing problems I said scale, signals, and solutions. i said scale signals and solutions This notion of scale, advertisers, they can't go to 100 places, thousands of places. this notion of scale advertisers they can't go to 100 places thousands of places They do, but trying to limit the amount of where the resources are to get to the largest group of customers is going to be really important. they do but trying to limit the amount of where the resources are to get to the largest group of customers is going to be really important This notion of full funnel, they're going to probably focus on a couple of big players in the marketplace. this notion of full funnel they're going to probably focus on a couple of big players in the marketplace The second one is marketplace, which is this notion of 1P has been so strong from an advertising perspective, but 3P and the notion of tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of smaller sellers on platforms like Walmart are starting to explode. We have to build solutions that meet the needs of all of those clients or advertisers or sellers or suppliers. Full funnel is happening. Marketplace is really key. Mike, I don't know if you want to kind of go to the TV. The second one is marketplace, which is this notion of 1P has been so strong from an advertising perspective, but 3P and the notion of tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of smaller sellers on platforms like Walmart are starting to explode. the second one is marketplace which is this notion of 1p has been so strong from an advertising perspective but 3p and the notion of tens of thousands hundreds of thousands millions of smaller sellers on platforms like walmart are starting to explode We have to build solutions that meet the needs of all of those clients or advertisers or sellers or suppliers. we have to build solutions that meet the needs of all of those clients or advertisers or sellers or suppliers Full funnel is happening. full funnel is happening Marketplace is really key. marketplace is really key Mike, I don't know if you want to kind of go to the TV. mike i don't know if you want to kind of go to the tv

Speaker 3: I can touch on connected TV. I can touch on connected TV. i can touch on connected tv

Speaker 1: Connected TV. Connected TV. connected tv

Speaker 3: Connected TV in general, just at a 40,000-ft level, I mean, I think it's well known that connected TV is overtaking traditional or linear television. I think the expectation is by 2027, more dollars will be spent in connected TV than in traditional television. In traditional television, a majority of that is really still tied to sports. We're seeing this massive shift. To what Rich was talking about, we were recently just at Cannes. When we talked to every major CMO and every executive at advertising agencies, the core themes or investments that they were looking to make are around retail media and connected TV. Those were the two biggest topics, well, and AI, of course, the three biggest topics that were on their minds. How can they get better positioned within those different investment areas? Connected TV in general, just at a 40,000-ft level, I mean, I think it's well known that connected TV is overtaking traditional or linear television. connected tv in general just at a 40,000-ft level i mean i think it's well known that connected tv is overtaking traditional or linear television I think the expectation is by 2027, more dollars will be spent in connected TV than in traditional television. i think the expectation is by 2027 more dollars will be spent in connected tv than in traditional television In traditional television, a majority of that is really still tied to sports. in traditional television a majority of that is really still tied to sports We're seeing this massive shift. we're seeing this massive shift To what Rich was talking about, we were recently just at Cannes. to what rich was talking about we were recently just at cannes When we talked to every major CMO and every executive at advertising agencies, the core themes or investments that they were looking to make are around retail media and connected TV. when we talked to every major cmo and every executive at advertising agencies the core themes or investments that they were looking to make are around retail media and connected tv Those were the two biggest topics, well, and AI, of course, the three biggest topics that were on their minds. those were the two biggest topics well and ai of course the three biggest topics that were on their minds How can they get better positioned within those different investment areas? how can they get better positioned within those different investment areas I think what that ultimately brings to, and I think Rich touched on it, when you have that full-funnel solution through signals, solutions, and scale, they're now thinking of us not necessarily just as a retailer, but they're thinking of Walmart as a media company. I think what that ultimately brings to, and I think Rich touched on it, when you have that full-funnel solution through signals, solutions, and scale, they're now thinking of us not necessarily just as a retailer, but they're thinking of Walmart as a media company. i think what that ultimately brings to and i think rich touched on it when you have that full-funnel solution through signals solutions and scale they're now thinking of us not necessarily just as a retailer but they're thinking of walmart as a media company

Speaker 2: Interesting. As you talked a little bit about smaller retailers and CTV, and maybe CTV being a better fit for brand and for larger businesses, how are you seeing the opportunity there and the ability to bring small businesses into CTV? Interesting. interesting As you talked a little bit about smaller retailers and CTV, and maybe CTV being a better fit for brand and for larger businesses, how are you seeing the opportunity there and the ability to bring small businesses into CTV? as you talked a little bit about smaller retailers and ctv and maybe ctv being a better fit for brand and for larger businesses how are you seeing the opportunity there and the ability to bring small businesses into ctv

Speaker 3: I think being able to, I think Rich used the example, what was it, Rich's Water? Yeah, that's great. In terms of Rich's Water, when you have the ability to have these strong signals, it enables us to open up the environment to new types of advertisers because they can get more personalized, more specific. They can ultimately measure on the back end. If you have Rich's Water competing with a much larger brand, they know that they can come to VIZIO or they can come to our platform or our operating system. They're going to be able to get more value out of the brand ad that they're putting in than necessarily they would by making a broad-based reach buy that historically has been very expensive or you need to invest a lot of dollars against. I think being able to, I think Rich used the example, what was it, Rich's Water? i think being able to i think rich used the example what was it rich's water Yeah, that's great. yeah that's great In terms of Rich's Water, when you have the ability to have these strong signals, it enables us to open up the environment to new types of advertisers because they can get more personalized, more specific. in terms of rich's water when you have the ability to have these strong signals it enables us to open up the environment to new types of advertisers because they can get more personalized more specific They can ultimately measure on the back end. they can ultimately measure on the back end If you have Rich's Water competing with a much larger brand, they know that they can come to VIZIO or they can come to our platform or our operating system. if you have rich's water competing with a much larger brand they know that they can come to vizio or they can come to our platform or our operating system They're going to be able to get more value out of the brand ad that they're putting in than necessarily they would by making a broad-based reach buy that historically has been very expensive or you need to invest a lot of dollars against. they're going to be able to get more value out of the brand ad that they're putting in than necessarily they would by making a broad-based reach buy that historically has been very expensive or you need to invest a lot of dollars against

Speaker 1: This is an interesting sort of phenomenon that's happening because of technology, AI, automation. Our business, of course, we service the largest CPG and advertisers. We have teams set up for that. This business is moving to a more automated self-serve sort of system that agencies and buyers across all marketers are really utilizing on themselves. Traditionally, we have said, the large advertisers, you have to spend $100 million or whatever the number is. Smaller sellers or advertisers, because of the precision and elimination of waste, they can buy one ad. In our system, they can spend a couple hundred dollars if they want. You don't have to be the biggest advertiser. That just opens up the aperture for so many marketers like Rich's Water or whoever to advertise on performance-based media like retail media. This is an interesting sort of phenomenon that's happening because of technology, AI, automation. this is an interesting sort of phenomenon that's happening because of technology ai automation Our business, of course, we service the largest CPG and advertisers. our business of course we service the largest cpg and advertisers We have teams set up for that. we have teams set up for that This business is moving to a more automated self-serve sort of system that agencies and buyers across all marketers are really utilizing on themselves. this business is moving to a more automated self-serve sort of system that agencies and buyers across all marketers are really utilizing on themselves Traditionally, we have said, the large advertisers, you have to spend $100 million or whatever the number is. traditionally we have said the large advertisers you have to spend $100 million or whatever the number is Smaller sellers or advertisers, because of the precision and elimination of waste, they can buy one ad. smaller sellers or advertisers because of the precision and elimination of waste they can buy one ad In our system, they can spend a couple hundred dollars if they want. in our system they can spend a couple hundred dollars if they want You don't have to be the biggest advertiser. you don't have to be the biggest advertiser That just opens up the aperture for so many marketers like Rich's Water or whoever to advertise on performance-based media like retail media. that just opens up the aperture for so many marketers like rich's water or whoever to advertise on performance-based media like retail media As we start to integrate into an automated performance-based auction, now they can come in and just buy one ad, two ads, three ads, and make it really precision in the market or the demo or the geography that you want. It changes the game. It opens up for everybody on a playing field that is so different than it was in the past. As we start to integrate into an automated performance-based auction, now they can come in and just buy one ad, two ads, three ads, and make it really precision in the market or the demo or the geography that you want. as we start to integrate into an automated performance-based auction now they can come in and just buy one ad two ads three ads and make it really precision in the market or the demo or the geography that you want It changes the game. it changes the game It opens up for everybody on a playing field that is so different than it was in the past. it opens up for everybody on a playing field that is so different than it was in the past

Speaker 2: Maybe if I could bring that to life, I was thinking of maybe I'll be the Chief Marketing Officer of Rich's Water. Maybe if I could bring that to life, I was thinking of maybe I'll be the Chief Marketing Officer of Rich's Water. maybe if i could bring that to life i was thinking of maybe i'll be the chief marketing officer of rich's water

Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 2: I'm selling to Walmart. I'm engaged with the merchants. Give me the sales pitch because I'm doing a little bit of advertising somewhere else already. Why am I going to now move some of my ad dollars over to Walmart Connect? I'm selling to Walmart. i'm selling to walmart I'm engaged with the merchants. i'm engaged with the merchants Give me the sales pitch because I'm doing a little bit of advertising somewhere else already. give me the sales pitch because i'm doing a little bit of advertising somewhere else already Why am I going to now move some of my ad dollars over to Walmart Connect? why am i going to now move some of my ad dollars over to walmart connect

Speaker 1: Yeah. The first thing I would say, which is we keep the relationship, some people have asked us about trade. First of all, the negotiation with the merchant on price or whatever you're doing, like NCAP promotion or whatever, that's with the merchant. You do that. Separately, we will come in and have a demand sort of driving growth conversation. The conversation with the merchant is the merchant. It's about, again, trying to get the best price for our customer. Ultimately, for us, it depends on what your business objective is. What I always say to clients is, give me a brief. They always say, well, we just want to do this, this. I'm like, if you can give me just like two words, I don't need like a long brief. I just need like a couple words. Do you have a new product? Yeah. yeah The first thing I would say, which is we keep the relationship, some people have asked us about trade. the first thing i would say which is we keep the relationship some people have asked us about trade First of all, the negotiation with the merchant on price or whatever you're doing, like NCAP promotion or whatever, that's with the merchant. first of all the negotiation with the merchant on price or whatever you're doing like ncap promotion or whatever that's with the merchant You do that. you do that Separately, we will come in and have a demand sort of driving growth conversation. separately we will come in and have a demand sort of driving growth conversation The conversation with the merchant is the merchant. the conversation with the merchant is the merchant It's about, again, trying to get the best price for our customer. it's about again trying to get the best price for our customer Ultimately, for us, it depends on what your business objective is. ultimately for us it depends on what your business objective is What I always say to clients is, give me a brief. what i always say to clients is give me a brief They always say, well, we just want to do this, this. they always say well we just want to do this this I'm like, if you can give me just like two words, I don't need like a long brief. i'm like if you can give me just like two words i don't need like a long brief I just need like a couple words. i just need like a couple words Do you have a new product? do you have a new product Are you launching that new product in a completely different way? Is it in a specific geography? Is it a limited-time offer? Is it an existing product you're just trying to build some share? Are you losing share? Are you going after? There are so many permutations. The sale is, let me help you solve your business challenges and marketing challenges and get to the right customers. If we can get to the right customers and add value to their experience, we'll do fine on the money. We'll get the advertising dollars. Let's solve the customer challenge first. That's the pitch. I'm saying it's working because it's about growth. Who doesn't want growth? We can give you the efficiency metrics. We can give you all that stuff. Really, the message is, how do we help you grow in new and different ways or creative ways? That's the pitch. Are you launching that new product in a completely different way? are you launching that new product in a completely different way Is it in a specific geography? is it in a specific geography Is it a limited-time offer? is it a limited-time offer Is it an existing product you're just trying to build some share? is it an existing product you're just trying to build some share Are you losing share? are you losing share Are you going after? are you going after There are so many permutations. there are so many permutations The sale is, let me help you solve your business challenges and marketing challenges and get to the right customers. the sale is let me help you solve your business challenges and marketing challenges and get to the right customers If we can get to the right customers and add value to their experience, we'll do fine on the money. if we can get to the right customers and add value to their experience we'll do fine on the money We'll get the advertising dollars. we'll get the advertising dollars Let's solve the customer challenge first. let's solve the customer challenge first That's the pitch. that's the pitch I'm saying it's working because it's about growth. i'm saying it's working because it's about growth Who doesn't want growth? who doesn't want growth We can give you the efficiency metrics. we can give you the efficiency metrics We can give you all that stuff. we can give you all that stuff Really, the message is, how do we help you grow in new and different ways or creative ways? really the message is how do we help you grow in new and different ways or creative ways That's the pitch. that's the pitch

Speaker 2: Maybe for both of you on kind of a retail media side and CTV, what are the major pain points by customer type? What are maybe the technology features we need to look out for in the next year or two that can kind of stimulate the next leg of growth? Maybe for both of you on kind of a retail media side and CTV, what are the major pain points by customer type? maybe for both of you on kind of a retail media side and ctv what are the major pain points by customer type What are maybe the technology features we need to look out for in the next year or two that can kind of stimulate the next leg of growth? what are maybe the technology features we need to look out for in the next year or two that can kind of stimulate the next leg of growth

Speaker 1: Are you saying customer being the advertiser or customer being the advertiser? Are you saying customer being the advertiser or customer being the advertiser? are you saying customer being the advertiser or customer being the advertiser

Speaker 2: Customer being the advertiser, yeah. Customer being the advertiser, yeah. customer being the advertiser yeah

Speaker 1: I think Mike kind of talked about this notion of AI. I'll give AI and I'll give scale. I'll go back to the first one, which is they are dealing with so much complexity in the marketplace. Finding customers is always challenging efficiently as I kind of opened up. That's going to be an ongoing problem to try to figure out how do I reach customers in the right way. The integration of AI is going to make it easier and harder in other ways because AI will infuse into every part of information and data that will make the signal even stronger and better at the same time. That's really good for the customer. It's going to be closer to what they're looking for. It'll open up also new opportunities for advertisers to eliminate waste in many ways and also reach the customer. I think Mike kind of talked about this notion of AI. i think mike kind of talked about this notion of ai I'll give AI and I'll give scale. i'll give ai and i'll give scale I'll go back to the first one, which is they are dealing with so much complexity in the marketplace. i'll go back to the first one which is they are dealing with so much complexity in the marketplace Finding customers is always challenging efficiently as I kind of opened up. finding customers is always challenging efficiently as i kind of opened up That's going to be an ongoing problem to try to figure out how do I reach customers in the right way. that's going to be an ongoing problem to try to figure out how do i reach customers in the right way The integration of AI is going to make it easier and harder in other ways because AI will infuse into every part of information and data that will make the signal even stronger and better at the same time. the integration of ai is going to make it easier and harder in other ways because ai will infuse into every part of information and data that will make the signal even stronger and better at the same time That's really good for the customer. that's really good for the customer It's going to be closer to what they're looking for. it's going to be closer to what they're looking for It'll open up also new opportunities for advertisers to eliminate waste in many ways and also reach the customer. it'll open up also new opportunities for advertisers to eliminate waste in many ways and also reach the customer I would just say the only thing I would add is that people ask me about AI and search and what is it going to do. I do think search will still be really viable. It'll just be better. People will pay for the right to add relevancy products to that search mechanism. What is really important with VIZIO is the viewing patterns are also being infused with knowing more about the customer and add more value into the experience of the content itself. I would just say the only thing I would add is that people ask me about AI and search and what is it going to do. i would just say the only thing i would add is that people ask me about ai and search and what is it going to do I do think search will still be really viable. i do think search will still be really viable It'll just be better. it'll just be better People will pay for the right to add relevancy products to that search mechanism. people will pay for the right to add relevancy products to that search mechanism What is really important with VIZIO is the viewing patterns are also being infused with knowing more about the customer and add more value into the experience of the content itself. what is really important with vizio is the viewing patterns are also being infused with knowing more about the customer and add more value into the experience of the content itself

Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's around, I think you touched on it. It's around search and discovery. How can we leverage AI to create a better experience on the platform? I touched on it earlier around the flywheel. The more engagement that we have on the platform, the more engagement that we can drive into what's a good value for our customers is ultimately going to help advertisers on the back end. Yeah, I mean, I think it's around, I think you touched on it. yeah i mean i think it's around i think you touched on it It's around search and discovery. it's around search and discovery How can we leverage AI to create a better experience on the platform? how can we leverage ai to create a better experience on the platform I touched on it earlier around the flywheel. i touched on it earlier around the flywheel The more engagement that we have on the platform, the more engagement that we can drive into what's a good value for our customers is ultimately going to help advertisers on the back end. the more engagement that we have on the platform the more engagement that we can drive into what's a good value for our customers is ultimately going to help advertisers on the back end I think being able to leverage AI through the search and discovery process to be able to source or be able to help customers find what they want to watch, what is the right movie for family night that I want to see, how easy is it for me to get there within one click or two clicks, what's the right service for me to subscribe to, what's the right content that's available at all different price ranges across the platform? I think AI can continue to make that easier, more seamless, and ultimately a better experience that's more engagement is better for the advertiser. I think being able to leverage AI through the search and discovery process to be able to source or be able to help customers find what they want to watch, what is the right movie for family night that I want to see, how easy is it for me to get there within one click or two clicks, what's the right service for me to subscribe to, what's the right content that's available at all different price ranges across the platform? i think being able to leverage ai through the search and discovery process to be able to source or be able to help customers find what they want to watch what is the right movie for family night that i want to see how easy is it for me to get there within one click or two clicks what's the right service for me to subscribe to what's the right content that's available at all different price ranges across the platform I think AI can continue to make that easier, more seamless, and ultimately a better experience that's more engagement is better for the advertiser. i think ai can continue to make that easier more seamless and ultimately a better experience that's more engagement is better for the advertiser

Speaker 1: Just think about even make it shoppable where you have movie night with the family. What do you need? You need popcorn. You need one click, and you can just get that all delivered to your house in a half hour. Just think about even make it shoppable where you have movie night with the family. just think about even make it shoppable where you have movie night with the family What do you need? what do you need You need popcorn. you need popcorn You need one click, and you can just get that all delivered to your house in a half hour. you need one click and you can just get that all delivered to your house in a half hour

Speaker 3: Yeah. We think about it as a connected commerce experience. How do we bring more of a connected commerce experience to the platform? Understanding, I think 80% today, 80% of VIZIO customers are Walmart shoppers. We expect that or hope that continues to increase. That's the reason why Walmart, one of the reasons Walmart acquired us, if I didn't touch on that, is to be able to get into more homes where those Walmart shoppers are at. If we can understand those Walmart shoppers, those needs, they're in that lean-back experience or different environment than maybe they are on Walmart.com or on the app, we can showcase to them different things or different products or opportunities that may fit what they want. Yeah. yeah We think about it as a connected commerce experience. we think about it as a connected commerce experience How do we bring more of a connected commerce experience to the platform? how do we bring more of a connected commerce experience to the platform Understanding, I think 80% today, 80% of VIZIO customers are Walmart shoppers. understanding i think 80% today 80% of vizio customers are walmart shoppers We expect that or hope that continues to increase. we expect that or hope that continues to increase That's the reason why Walmart, one of the reasons Walmart acquired us, if I didn't touch on that, is to be able to get into more homes where those Walmart shoppers are at. that's the reason why walmart one of the reasons walmart acquired us if i didn't touch on that is to be able to get into more homes where those walmart shoppers are at If we can understand those Walmart shoppers, those needs, they're in that lean-back experience or different environment than maybe they are on Walmart.com or on the app, we can showcase to them different things or different products or opportunities that may fit what they want. if we can understand those walmart shoppers those needs they're in that lean-back experience or different environment than maybe they are on walmart.com or on the app we can showcase to them different things or different products or opportunities that may fit what they want

Speaker 2: That is interesting. 80% VIZIO is already Walmart, so there's already some good customer overlap. You guys are now 10 months into the acquisition. How is the integration going so far? Are there any key highlights you'd like to flag for us? That is interesting. 80% VIZIO is already Walmart, so there's already some good customer overlap. that is interesting 80% vizio is already walmart so there's already some good customer overlap You guys are now 10 months into the acquisition. you guys are now 10 months into the acquisition How is the integration going so far? how is the integration going so far Are there any key highlights you'd like to flag for us? are there any key highlights you'd like to flag for us

Speaker 3: The integration is going great for anyone asking. I think it was very, the integration was very seamless for us because Walmart was already VIZIO's top customer. We've been working together for over 15 years on the hardware side, and we had already had these great meetings ahead of time. Really, I didn't use this example earlier in the acquisition, but part of the acquisition was formed around this kind of aha moment we had in the Dallas meeting where we got together different parts of the business to talk about different strategic opportunities that we could have to serve the Walmart customer better on our platform. In that, we were able to unlock a lot of different opportunities and ideas. There was one, obviously, how do we get more Walmart customers to have the operating system itself? How do we create that better customer experience that's more seamless? The integration is going great for anyone asking. the integration is going great for anyone asking I think it was very, the integration was very seamless for us because Walmart was already VIZIO's top customer. i think it was very the integration was very seamless for us because walmart was already vizio's top customer We've been working together for over 15 years on the hardware side, and we had already had these great meetings ahead of time. we've been working together for over 15 years on the hardware side and we had already had these great meetings ahead of time Really, I didn't use this example earlier in the acquisition, but part of the acquisition was formed around this kind of aha moment we had in the Dallas meeting where we got together different parts of the business to talk about different strategic opportunities that we could have to serve the Walmart customer better on our platform. really i didn't use this example earlier in the acquisition but part of the acquisition was formed around this kind of aha moment we had in the dallas meeting where we got together different parts of the business to talk about different strategic opportunities that we could have to serve the walmart customer better on our platform In that, we were able to unlock a lot of different opportunities and ideas. in that we were able to unlock a lot of different opportunities and ideas There was one, obviously, how do we get more Walmart customers to have the operating system itself? there was one obviously how do we get more walmart customers to have the operating system itself How do we create that better customer experience that's more seamless? how do we create that better customer experience that's more seamless How do we integrate leveraging the signals we have? Combined with that, how working together with Rich and the Walmart Connect team, can we leverage those signals to create a better advertising experience? We kind of had the playbook already understood just because we've worked so closely together for so long. It's made for a very seamless integration. How do we integrate leveraging the signals we have? how do we integrate leveraging the signals we have Combined with that, how working together with Rich and the Walmart Connect team, can we leverage those signals to create a better advertising experience? combined with that how working together with rich and the walmart connect team can we leverage those signals to create a better advertising experience We kind of had the playbook already understood just because we've worked so closely together for so long. we kind of had the playbook already understood just because we've worked so closely together for so long It's made for a very seamless integration. it's made for a very seamless integration

Speaker 1: I'll just add too, just from we kind of talked about endemic, non-endemic for us. As to remind you, endemic is people that sell on Walmart. Non-endemic are companies or brands like cars or insurance or financial services that don't really sell on Walmart. We traditionally have just been focused on the large CPGs or, as I said, the marketplace sellers. We didn't reach out. The VIZIO team has somewhat reversed. They have their endemic, the entertainment platforms. We sell like IP, like entertainment products. For the movie space and streaming space, we traditionally haven't had advertisers of that level. Our platform is so large, as I said, scale. It allows entertainment companies now to have access to be able to market in different ways, not just like on the VIZIO platform. I'll just add too, just from we kind of talked about endemic, non-endemic for us. i'll just add too just from we kind of talked about endemic non-endemic for us As to remind you, endemic is people that sell on Walmart. as to remind you endemic is people that sell on walmart Non-endemic are companies or brands like cars or insurance or financial services that don't really sell on Walmart. non-endemic are companies or brands like cars or insurance or financial services that don't really sell on walmart We traditionally have just been focused on the large CPGs or, as I said, the marketplace sellers. we traditionally have just been focused on the large cpgs or as i said the marketplace sellers We didn't reach out. we didn't reach out The VIZIO team has somewhat reversed. the vizio team has somewhat reversed They have their endemic, the entertainment platforms. they have their endemic the entertainment platforms We sell like IP, like entertainment products. we sell like ip like entertainment products For the movie space and streaming space, we traditionally haven't had advertisers of that level. for the movie space and streaming space we traditionally haven't had advertisers of that level Our platform is so large, as I said, scale. our platform is so large as i said scale It allows entertainment companies now to have access to be able to market in different ways, not just like on the VIZIO platform. it allows entertainment companies now to have access to be able to market in different ways not just like on the vizio platform It can bring it all the way through to the site to sell if it is a movie or it is streaming, but also the IP, the products that they have and make it fully seamless integration of promotion. If they're also a car company, insurance, we have rich data. We are one of the largest auto repair. We have a rich set of data to be able to engage with customers and know a lot about customers. They sell a lot to car companies and others. We are looking at it in completely different ways now where we can fully integrate the platforms and the stacks to meet the needs of the advertisers. Each one has a kind of a different challenge. A movie might say, like opening weekend is like the most critical sort of thing. It can bring it all the way through to the site to sell if it is a movie or it is streaming, but also the IP, the products that they have and make it fully seamless integration of promotion. it can bring it all the way through to the site to sell if it is a movie or it is streaming but also the ip the products that they have and make it fully seamless integration of promotion If they're also a car company, insurance, we have rich data. if they're also a car company insurance we have rich data We are one of the largest auto repair. we are one of the largest auto repair We have a rich set of data to be able to engage with customers and know a lot about customers. we have a rich set of data to be able to engage with customers and know a lot about customers They sell a lot to car companies and others. they sell a lot to car companies and others We are looking at it in completely different ways now where we can fully integrate the platforms and the stacks to meet the needs of the advertisers. we are looking at it in completely different ways now where we can fully integrate the platforms and the stacks to meet the needs of the advertisers Each one has a kind of a different challenge. each one has a kind of a different challenge A movie might say, like opening weekend is like the most critical sort of thing. a movie might say like opening weekend is like the most critical sort of thing How can we build a promotion around that opening weekend in a completely different way? If you're a car company and you're launching a new product or insurance or whatever, we can think holistically. We want to keep people on Walmart. At the same time, we have lots of opportunities, whether that's in-store or post-checkout, to add features. Even with our Walmart Connect, we have a lot of features that aren't specifically about the selling and the endemic sort of stuff. It's opening up completely new avenues for us. For me, which is probably one of the more exciting things, is besides adding real value to customers, it's looking at the business in a completely different way. Traditionally, I'm sure there's many people like, oh, retail media, it's just retail. They think of another company like Meta or whatever. It's like an advertising company or a social media platform. How can we build a promotion around that opening weekend in a completely different way? how can we build a promotion around that opening weekend in a completely different way If you're a car company and you're launching a new product or insurance or whatever, we can think holistically. if you're a car company and you're launching a new product or insurance or whatever we can think holistically We want to keep people on Walmart. we want to keep people on walmart At the same time, we have lots of opportunities, whether that's in-store or post-checkout, to add features. at the same time we have lots of opportunities whether that's in-store or post-checkout to add features Even with our Walmart Connect, we have a lot of features that aren't specifically about the selling and the endemic sort of stuff. even with our walmart connect we have a lot of features that aren't specifically about the selling and the endemic sort of stuff It's opening up completely new avenues for us. it's opening up completely new avenues for us For me, which is probably one of the more exciting things, is besides adding real value to customers, it's looking at the business in a completely different way. for me which is probably one of the more exciting things is besides adding real value to customers it's looking at the business in a completely different way Traditionally, I'm sure there's many people like, oh, retail media, it's just retail. traditionally i'm sure there's many people like oh retail media it's just retail They think of another company like Meta or whatever. they think of another company like meta or whatever It's like an advertising company or a social media platform. it's like an advertising company or a social media platform It's all of these things now coming together in a completely different way, which, one, I'm excited as a marketer or as an ad sales. It opens up completely new opportunities for revenue, allowing our customers to really engage in different ways. That's sort of exciting. I love to solve, I always love to solve business challenges. I am a marketer at heart. When big CPGs or even the smaller companies come to us with these business challenges, I'm like, oh, we can solve that. Before, I would be like, I don't know, maybe I have to partner with this. Now we can solve all these business problems. To me, as a marketer, that is so exciting. It's all of these things now coming together in a completely different way, which, one, I'm excited as a marketer or as an ad sales. it's all of these things now coming together in a completely different way which one i'm excited as a marketer or as an ad sales It opens up completely new opportunities for revenue, allowing our customers to really engage in different ways. it opens up completely new opportunities for revenue allowing our customers to really engage in different ways That's sort of exciting. that's sort of exciting I love to solve, I always love to solve business challenges. i love to solve i always love to solve business challenges I am a marketer at heart. i am a marketer at heart When big CPGs or even the smaller companies come to us with these business challenges, I'm like, oh, we can solve that. when big cpgs or even the smaller companies come to us with these business challenges i'm like oh we can solve that Before, I would be like, I don't know, maybe I have to partner with this. before i would be like i don't know maybe i have to partner with this Now we can solve all these business problems. now we can solve all these business problems To me, as a marketer, that is so exciting. to me as a marketer that is so exciting

Speaker 2: That's very interesting. Let's see. One part of the integration that I thought was interesting too is the announcement a month or two ago that you were going to make VIZIO now an in-house brand. Tom and I worked on this. Walmart was the biggest VIZIO customer, but it was not, there's still less than 50% of sales. You're kind of leaving greater than 50% of your sales to now focus specifically on Walmart with the end goal of getting VIZIO TVs in as many living rooms as possible. Just talk about the strategic rationale of bringing VIZIO to become an in-house brand now. That's very interesting. that's very interesting Let's see. let's see One part of the integration that I thought was interesting too is the announcement a month or two ago that you were going to make VIZIO now an in-house brand. one part of the integration that i thought was interesting too is the announcement a month or two ago that you were going to make vizio now an in-house brand Tom and I worked on this. tom and i worked on this Walmart was the biggest VIZIO customer, but it was not, there's still less than 50% of sales. walmart was the biggest vizio customer but it was not there's still less than 50% of sales You're kind of leaving greater than 50% of your sales to now focus specifically on Walmart with the end goal of getting VIZIO TVs in as many living rooms as possible. you're kind of leaving greater than 50% of your sales to now focus specifically on walmart with the end goal of getting vizio tvs in as many living rooms as possible Just talk about the strategic rationale of bringing VIZIO to become an in-house brand now. just talk about the strategic rationale of bringing vizio to become an in-house brand now

Speaker 3: Yeah. I would say there were some market dynamics to that in the sense that once we became owned by Walmart, there were some retailers that not necessarily wanted to work with us or give money to Walmart as expected. When you look at how do you best serve the customer, when you think of the On brand and VIZIO, it's really about Walmart's always been about, from a merchant perspective, good, better, best. How do you create great price points or great value? When you talk about how's the integration going, we share a very similar culture. That culture has always been about giving high quality at an affordable price. That's value or EDLP in my new world. Yeah. yeah I would say there were some market dynamics to that in the sense that once we became owned by Walmart, there were some retailers that not necessarily wanted to work with us or give money to Walmart as expected. i would say there were some market dynamics to that in the sense that once we became owned by walmart there were some retailers that not necessarily wanted to work with us or give money to walmart as expected When you look at how do you best serve the customer, when you think of the On brand and VIZIO, it's really about Walmart's always been about, from a merchant perspective, good, better, best. when you look at how do you best serve the customer when you think of the on brand and vizio it's really about walmart's always been about from a merchant perspective good better best How do you create great price points or great value? how do you create great price points or great value When you talk about how's the integration going, we share a very similar culture. when you talk about how's the integration going we share a very similar culture That culture has always been about giving high quality at an affordable price. that culture has always been about giving high quality at an affordable price That's value or EDLP in my new world. that's value or edlp in my new world When you look at that, the opportunity for us to become a private label enables us to look at that good, better, best model and be able to create a better experience across that ecosystem, whether that's opening price point, whether that's mid-range, or whether that's the higher-end, latest, greatest technology out there in the marketplace. I think when we look at, you touched on some numbers, but Walmart sells a lot of televisions at Sam's Club. I think between Onn and VIZIO combined already, we're about 50% of the televisions at Walmart. It enables us to give this same operating system experience, be able to leverage those same signals to be able to give a great customer experience across both the Onn and VIZIO operating systems that are sold at Walmart. When you look at that, the opportunity for us to become a private label enables us to look at that good, better, best model and be able to create a better experience across that ecosystem, whether that's opening price point, whether that's mid-range, or whether that's the higher-end, latest, greatest technology out there in the marketplace. when you look at that the opportunity for us to become a private label enables us to look at that good better best model and be able to create a better experience across that ecosystem whether that's opening price point whether that's mid-range or whether that's the higher-end latest greatest technology out there in the marketplace I think when we look at, you touched on some numbers, but Walmart sells a lot of televisions at Sam's Club. i think when we look at you touched on some numbers but walmart sells a lot of televisions at sam's club I think between Onn and VIZIO combined already, we're about 50% of the televisions at Walmart. i think between onn and vizio combined already we're about 50% of the televisions at walmart It enables us to give this same operating system experience, be able to leverage those same signals to be able to give a great customer experience across both the Onn and VIZIO operating systems that are sold at Walmart. it enables us to give this same operating system experience be able to leverage those same signals to be able to give a great customer experience across both the onn and vizio operating systems that are sold at walmart

Speaker 2: OK. I think just to clarify too, the VIZIO operating system will move on to the Onn TVs. OK. ok I think just to clarify too, the VIZIO operating system will move on to the Onn TVs. i think just to clarify too the vizio operating system will move on to the onn tvs

Speaker 3: Yeah. We made that announcement that at the end of this year, we'll start rolling out the VIZIO operating system on Onn TVs. Yeah. yeah We made that announcement that at the end of this year, we'll start rolling out the VIZIO operating system on Onn TVs. we made that announcement that at the end of this year we'll start rolling out the vizio operating system on onn tvs

Speaker 2: OK. Mike, I'm wondering, just as a technology analyst, I'm very curious your perspective. What's kind of your latest thought on the CTV market in the broadest sense? I'm wondering if you perceive like 2024 and that experience around the election as kind of like a seminal transition point for the industry. OK. ok Mike, I'm wondering, just as a technology analyst, I'm very curious your perspective. ok mike i'm wondering just as a technology analyst i'm very curious your perspective What's kind of your latest thought on the CTV market in the broadest sense? what's kind of your latest thought on the ctv market in the broadest sense I'm wondering if you perceive like 2024 and that experience around the election as kind of like a seminal transition point for the industry. i'm wondering if you perceive like 2024 and that experience around the election as kind of like a seminal transition point for the industry

Speaker 3: I'm very bullish on the connected TV industry. We see that. If you look at all the trends, you look at just our television. We have, as you know from covering us for years, viewing data. We have a technology built into the television that enables us to see what's happening on those TVs. We understand what people are watching, whether that's linear television, streaming, a stick or dongle plugged in, or on a gaming console. We know what the viewing habits of the customer are. We have seen, as of recently, 66% of time spent when someone's on a television is spent streaming. Now less than 30%, I think it's almost, I'll call it less than 30% of time is spent in a linear television environment. In terms of just time spent, in terms of habits and shifts, the customers are moving to streaming. I'm very bullish on the connected TV industry. i'm very bullish on the connected tv industry We see that. we see that If you look at all the trends, you look at just our television. if you look at all the trends you look at just our television We have, as you know from covering us for years, viewing data. we have as you know from covering us for years viewing data We have a technology built into the television that enables us to see what's happening on those TVs. we have a technology built into the television that enables us to see what's happening on those tvs We understand what people are watching, whether that's linear television, streaming, a stick or dongle plugged in, or on a gaming console. we understand what people are watching whether that's linear television streaming a stick or dongle plugged in or on a gaming console We know what the viewing habits of the customer are. we know what the viewing habits of the customer are We have seen, as of recently, 66% of time spent when someone's on a television is spent streaming. we have seen as of recently 66% of time spent when someone's on a television is spent streaming Now less than 30%, I think it's almost, I'll call it less than 30% of time is spent in a linear television environment. now less than 30% i think it's almost i'll call it less than 30% of time is spent in a linear television environment In terms of just time spent, in terms of habits and shifts, the customers are moving to streaming. in terms of just time spent in terms of habits and shifts the customers are moving to streaming Or I shouldn't say are moving. They have moved to streaming. We saw in this last political election more and more dollars being pumped into connected television. That was for a couple of reasons, not specifically to talk about political. As an overall of the market, you can leverage what the benefits of linear television are, sights on emotion, driving great brand awareness, great brand lift. You can also layer on what's best about a digital environment. You can layer on the personalization. You can layer on different measurement opportunities. You can help plan those campaigns and optimize those campaigns better. I think I mentioned earlier, by 2027, we expect connected television investment to outpace linear TV. Or I shouldn't say are moving. or i shouldn't say are moving They have moved to streaming. they have moved to streaming We saw in this last political election more and more dollars being pumped into connected television. we saw in this last political election more and more dollars being pumped into connected television That was for a couple of reasons, not specifically to talk about political. that was for a couple of reasons not specifically to talk about political As an overall of the market, you can leverage what the benefits of linear television are, sights on emotion, driving great brand awareness, great brand lift. as an overall of the market you can leverage what the benefits of linear television are sights on emotion driving great brand awareness great brand lift You can also layer on what's best about a digital environment. you can also layer on what's best about a digital environment You can layer on the personalization. you can layer on the personalization You can layer on different measurement opportunities. you can layer on different measurement opportunities You can help plan those campaigns and optimize those campaigns better. you can help plan those campaigns and optimize those campaigns better I think I mentioned earlier, by 2027, we expect connected television investment to outpace linear TV. i think i mentioned earlier by 2027 we expect connected television investment to outpace linear tv As we continue to work more closely with Walmart Connect, as well as continue to build our base, continue to build out our owned and operated environments, we see a big opportunity in both video and display. As we continue to work more closely with Walmart Connect, as well as continue to build our base, continue to build out our owned and operated environments, we see a big opportunity in both video and display. as we continue to work more closely with walmart connect as well as continue to build our base continue to build out our owned and operated environments we see a big opportunity in both video and display

Speaker 2: OK. Great. Maybe just to wrap it up, provide a lot of good content. Just to summarize for each of you, we'll start with Rich and we'll go to Mike. What are you most excited about looking forward now as a combined business to really drive the connect and advertising growth at Walmart? OK. ok Great. great Maybe just to wrap it up, provide a lot of good content. maybe just to wrap it up provide a lot of good content Just to summarize for each of you, we'll start with Rich and we'll go to Mike. just to summarize for each of you we'll start with rich and we'll go to mike What are you most excited about looking forward now as a combined business to really drive the connect and advertising growth at Walmart? what are you most excited about looking forward now as a combined business to really drive the connect and advertising growth at walmart

Speaker 1: Yeah. If I'm repetitive, I apologize. To me, what I'm excited about is this notion of solving business challenges for our suppliers and sellers. It's adding more value to the customer experience. When I look at retail media, it is growing. We said it's a $100 billion total addressable market over the next couple of years. It'll be infused into all digital. When you talk about digital media, you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars. I say millions, billions, billions of dollars. When you add in all media, you're talking about a large, so the world is moving in this direction. What clients are asking us is that full-funnel. I'm excited about allowing suppliers and sellers of all sizes to be able to benefit from the notion of retail media. Launching new brands is pretty exciting. Yeah. yeah If I'm repetitive, I apologize. if i'm repetitive i apologize To me, what I'm excited about is this notion of solving business challenges for our suppliers and sellers. to me what i'm excited about is this notion of solving business challenges for our suppliers and sellers It's adding more value to the customer experience. it's adding more value to the customer experience When I look at retail media, it is growing. when i look at retail media it is growing We said it's a $100 billion total addressable market over the next couple of years. we said it's a $100 billion total addressable market over the next couple of years It'll be infused into all digital. it'll be infused into all digital When you talk about digital media, you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars. when you talk about digital media you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars I say millions, billions, billions of dollars. i say millions billions billions of dollars When you add in all media, you're talking about a large, so the world is moving in this direction. when you add in all media you're talking about a large so the world is moving in this direction What clients are asking us is that full-funnel. what clients are asking us is that full-funnel I'm excited about allowing suppliers and sellers of all sizes to be able to benefit from the notion of retail media. i'm excited about allowing suppliers and sellers of all sizes to be able to benefit from the notion of retail media Launching new brands is pretty exciting. launching new brands is pretty exciting Seeing all this growth happen at Walmart, moving from like 60 years ago to the stores to this digital business. We're growing in that, again, because we're doing a lot of value for customers in that experience. You layer on top of that this notion of retail media and adding value to the customer experience with providing more diversity of products and a more assortment for the customer and seeing all of that really benefit. I would just say if I leave one thing, if I can leave you just like this notion of scale, signals, and solutions. If you're going to do an analysis of retail media itself or media overall, it is going to be hard for suppliers or advertisers to go everywhere because it's just going to be too fragmented. Scale is going to be really important for them to invest their dollars. Seeing all this growth happen at Walmart, moving from like 60 years ago to the stores to this digital business. seeing all this growth happen at walmart moving from like 60 years ago to the stores to this digital business We're growing in that, again, because we're doing a lot of value for customers in that experience. we're growing in that again because we're doing a lot of value for customers in that experience You layer on top of that this notion of retail media and adding value to the customer experience with providing more diversity of products and a more assortment for the customer and seeing all of that really benefit. you layer on top of that this notion of retail media and adding value to the customer experience with providing more diversity of products and a more assortment for the customer and seeing all of that really benefit I would just say if I leave one thing, if I can leave you just like this notion of scale, signals, and solutions. i would just say if i leave one thing if i can leave you just like this notion of scale signals and solutions If you're going to do an analysis of retail media itself or media overall, it is going to be hard for suppliers or advertisers to go everywhere because it's just going to be too fragmented. if you're going to do an analysis of retail media itself or media overall it is going to be hard for suppliers or advertisers to go everywhere because it's just going to be too fragmented Scale is going to be really important for them to invest their dollars. scale is going to be really important for them to invest their dollars The signals are really important. What do you understand about the customer? Can I do better engagement with that customer and more relevancy for that customer? To me, the solutions, so companies or platforms that have solutions that are interesting and engaging that can be very relevant and show the sale, not just the sale, but also the incrementality. The platforms that can do all that are going to succeed. It's a large marketplace. Walmart's going to be one of those because we're trying to think about it the right way, customer first. We'll make money. We're going to grow. We focus with the customer. I'll leave you with that, that scale, that signals, and the solutions is really important as you do analysis of these. The signals are really important. the signals are really important What do you understand about the customer? what do you understand about the customer Can I do better engagement with that customer and more relevancy for that customer? can i do better engagement with that customer and more relevancy for that customer To me, the solutions, so companies or platforms that have solutions that are interesting and engaging that can be very relevant and show the sale, not just the sale, but also the incrementality. to me the solutions so companies or platforms that have solutions that are interesting and engaging that can be very relevant and show the sale not just the sale but also the incrementality The platforms that can do all that are going to succeed. the platforms that can do all that are going to succeed It's a large marketplace. it's a large marketplace Walmart's going to be one of those because we're trying to think about it the right way, customer first. walmart's going to be one of those because we're trying to think about it the right way customer first We'll make money. we'll make money We're going to grow. we're going to grow We focus with the customer. we focus with the customer I'll leave you with that, that scale, that signals, and the solutions is really important as you do analysis of these. i'll leave you with that that scale that signals and the solutions is really important as you do analysis of these

Speaker 2: OK. That's a great answer. Mike, what are you excited about? OK. ok That's a great answer. that's a great answer Mike, what are you excited about? mike what are you excited about

Speaker 3: It's tough to follow. I'm excited because Rich is excited. It's tough to follow. it's tough to follow I'm excited because Rich is excited. i'm excited because rich is excited

Speaker 1: We're excited to work with you, buddy. We're excited to work with you, buddy. we're excited to work with you buddy

Speaker 3: I'm excited because Rich is excited. I think Rich touched on it. It's the opportunity to serve the customer better. When I say that, it's multiple different customers. It's the Walmart customer. It's the viewers that we have on the operating system today. We can create a much better experience. I think you know from our business moving from VIZIO into a much larger organization, it gives us the opportunity to invest and drive more resources into creating that better customer experience, helping customers find what they want to watch better, helping advertisers on the back end recognize who their customers are, how they can deliver them better advertising or more relevant advertising, and ultimately how they can measure it on the back end. I think we have a huge opportunity to continue to serve our customers better. I think the opportunity will continue to accelerate. I'm excited because Rich is excited. i'm excited because rich is excited I think Rich touched on it. i think rich touched on it It's the opportunity to serve the customer better. it's the opportunity to serve the customer better When I say that, it's multiple different customers. when i say that it's multiple different customers It's the Walmart customer. it's the walmart customer It's the viewers that we have on the operating system today. it's the viewers that we have on the operating system today We can create a much better experience. we can create a much better experience I think you know from our business moving from VIZIO into a much larger organization, it gives us the opportunity to invest and drive more resources into creating that better customer experience, helping customers find what they want to watch better, helping advertisers on the back end recognize who their customers are, how they can deliver them better advertising or more relevant advertising, and ultimately how they can measure it on the back end. i think you know from our business moving from vizio into a much larger organization it gives us the opportunity to invest and drive more resources into creating that better customer experience helping customers find what they want to watch better helping advertisers on the back end recognize who their customers are how they can deliver them better advertising or more relevant advertising and ultimately how they can measure it on the back end I think we have a huge opportunity to continue to serve our customers better. i think we have a huge opportunity to continue to serve our customers better I think the opportunity will continue to accelerate. i think the opportunity will continue to accelerate

Speaker 2: Great. Thank you guys for being here. This was awesome. Great. great Thank you guys for being here. thank you guys for being here This was awesome. this was awesome

Speaker 1: Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. thank you for having us

Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, everyone. Yeah, thanks, everyone. yeah thanks everyone