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URBAN ONE, INC. — Call Transcript 2026
Mar 12, 2026
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Urban One 2025 fourth quarter earnings call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. We will begin this call with the following safe harbor statement. During this call, Urban One will be sharing with you certain projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or its future performance. Urban One cautions you that certain factors, including risks and uncertainties referred to in the 10-Ks, 10-Qs and other reports it periodically files with the Securities and Exchange Commission, could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from those indicated by its projections or forward-looking statements. This call will present information as of March 12th, 2026. Please note that Urban One disclaims any duty to update any forward-looking statements made in the presentation. In this call, Urban One may also discuss some non-GAAP financial measures in talking about its performance. These measures will be reconciled to GAAP either during the course of this call or in the company's press release, which can be found on its website at www.urbanone.com. A replay of the conference call will be available from 2:00 P.M. Eastern Time, March 12th, 2026, until 11:59 P.M. Eastern Time, March 19th, 2026. Callers may access the replay by calling 1-800-770-2030. International callers may dial direct 1-609-800-9909. The replay access code is 9077729. Access to live audio and a replay of the conference will also be available on Urban One's corporate website at www.urbanone.com. The replay will be made available on the website for seven days after the call. No other recordings or copies of this call are authorized or may be relied upon. I will now turn the call over to Alfred C. Liggins, Chief Executive Officer of Urban One, who is joined by Peter Thompson, Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Liggins, please go ahead. Thank you very much, operator. Also joining us today are Kris Simpson, our General Counsel, Karen Wishart, our Chief Administrative Officer, Jody Drewer, who is the CFO of our cable television unit, TV One and CLEO. Thank you all very much for joining us for the fourth quarter results 2025 year-end conference call. As the press release has stated, we actually finished the year just inside our guidance at $56.7 million of EBITDA. We had previously also given guidance for 2026 of $70 million of EBITDA. We're just getting through first quarter. A lot of moving parts. We're gonna wait till we get to the end of first quarter into the next conference call to update you know any information on that. We're, you know, holding pat, you know, for the moment. Q1 started off a bit slower than we'd hoped. You know, current radio pacings are down about 5%, you know, but we're still positive about a number of our operational changes that we have made and also political that is gonna be coming in this year. We're also starting to see, you know, some significant improvements in our ratings at our cable television unit. A number of these factors are playing into our decision to hold on any sort of 2026 guidance update. Very pleased that by the end of last year, we were able to do a significant capital markets transaction where we repurchased a significant amount of our 2028 notes at a discount. We extended out, you know, our maturities in an exchange, you know, into 2031, upsized our ABL credit facility. You know, we put the company in a much more stabilized position in terms of its capital structure to allow us to continue to focus on delevering the business and to try to take advantage of any, you know, offensive opportunities, particularly as it relates to deregulation in the radio business. We feel very good about that, and we continue to maintain our focus on delevering and including any transactions that we would look to do that we're also delevering. With that, I'm gonna turn it over to Peter, who's gonna give you details on the numbers, and then we'll open it up to Q&A. Thank you, Alfred. Consolidated net revenue for the three months ended December 31st, 2025, was approximately $97.8 million, down 16.5% year-over-year. Net revenue for the radio broadcasting segment was $35.1 million, which was a decrease of 26.5% year-over-year. Excluding political, net revenue was down 10.1% year-over-year. According to Miller Kaplan, our local ad sales were down 19% against our markets that were down 12.6%, and our national ad sales were down 40.1% against the market that was down 29.2%. Our largest ad category for the quarter was services, which was up 18.1%, primarily due to legal services. Healthcare was up 3.5%, and financial was up 15.7%, but all of the other major categories were down. Net revenue for the Reach Media segment was $13.8 million in the fourth quarter, up 43.9% from the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA was approximately $0.9 million for the quarter. The increase was primarily driven by an increase in event revenue due to the timing of the Fantastic Voyage Cruise, which was in fourth quarter 2025 compared to the second quarter of 2024. There's a timing difference there. That increased revenue and expense was offset by a decrease in political revenue and decrease in network advertising revenue. Net revenues for the digital segment were down 19.6% in the quarter of $14.7 million. Decline was driven by decrease in direct revenue streams as a result of decreased DEI money, lower political and lower client spending in general. Direct digital sales were down by $2.7 million for the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $1.8 million compared to $2.7 million last year. We recognized approximately $34.9 million of revenue from our cable television segment during the quarter, which is a decrease of 16.8%. Cable television advertising revenue was down 21.8%. Our prime delivery declined approximately 20% from the third quarter for persons 25-54. Cable TV affiliate revenue was down by 9%, which was driven by subscriber churn, being partially offset by an increase in subscriber rates, and the launch of NOW TV. Cable subscribers for TV One, as measured by Nielsen, finished the fourth quarter at 30.2 million, compared to 34.1 million at the end of Q3. The decline is a result of the combination of churn and also a conversion of virtual deals that's being sold as connected television and therefore pulled out of the Nielsen numbers. CLEO TV had 33 million Nielsen subscribers at the end of the period. Operating expenses excluding depreciation, amortization, stock-based compensation, and impairment of goodwill and intangible assets, were approximately $90.2 million for the three months compared to approximately $91.1 million for the comparable period in 2024. Our operating expenses in the period included $70.7 million of debt refinancing costs, as well as $6.7 million of expenses related to Fantastic Voyage Cruise. Excluding those two items, operating expenses were actually down by approximately 17%. That was driven mainly by revenue-related variable expenses such as commissions, sales rep fees, traffic acquisition costs in digital, as well as headcount and related, third-party professional fees. Radio operating expenses were down 17.8%, or $5.7 million, driven primarily by decreasing commissions and headcount-related expenses. Reach operating expenses were up by 86.1% due to the timing of the Fantastic Voyage. Excluding the event expenses, then expenses at Reach were down by 12.1%, which was driven by talent and headcount-related, expense reductions. Operating expenses in the digital segment were down by 18.5%, driven by a decrease in traffic acquisition costs, commissions, headcount-related savings, and video production costs. Operating expenses in the cable television segment were down 8.3%, driven by lower headcount costs, commission, bad debt, and a reduction in program development write-offs. Operating expenses in corporate were up by approximately $4 million, driven by an increase in the debt refinancing costs that were recorded in Q4 of $7.7 million, which was offset by lower third-party legal and professional fees, software license fees, and other expense reductions at corporate. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $15.6 million for the fourth quarter, which was down 41.8%. Consolidated broadcast and digital operating income was approximately $23.8 million, a decrease of 38.3%. On December 18th, 2025, the company closed a private tender exchange offer with the holders of the 2028 senior secured notes, representing more than 97% of the aggregate principal amount outstanding. The company tendered for $185 million of the 2028 notes at 60%. We issued $60.6 million aggregate principal amount of 10.5% first lien senior secured notes due 2030. We issued $291 million aggregate principal amount of 7.625% second lien secured notes due 2031. Following the transaction, $11.8 million of the 2028 notes remained outstanding. We had to account for the transaction under the troubled debt restructuring rules, which means that we don't recognize the gain on the tender P&L, and instead, we effectively capitalize that on the balance sheet as a premium. That will have a knock-on effect in future periods of reducing the P&L interest expense. The difference between the cash interest expense and the P&L interest expense will go to reduce the premium over time. Interest and investment income was approximately $0.4 million in the fourth quarter compared to $1.1 million last year. Decrease was due to lower cash balances in interest-bearing accounts. Interest expense decreased to approximately $8.7 million in Q4, down from $11.5 million in last year due to lower overall debt balances. The company made cash interest payments of approximately $13.4 million in the quarter, and during the first three quarters, the company repurchased $96.7 million of its 2028 notes at an average price of 53.6% at par, bringing the balance to $487.8 million as of September 30th. The debt transaction in the fourth quarter further reduced the outstanding long-term debt balance to $363.4 million at year-end. At the same time as the debt transaction happened, we drew down $10 million from our new ABL credit facility. In the first quarter of 2026, we paid the $10 million draw on the ABL, and we also purchased an additional $4.3 million in the 2028 notes at 51% at par, bringing the current outstanding total debt balance to $359.1 million. $55.3 million in non-cash impairment charges were recorded, and that was made up of half a million at Reach Media, $53.1 million at Cable Television, and $1.7 million within the digital reporting unit. We recorded amortization expense of approximately $400,000 for the radio broadcast license TV One trade name for the three months. Benefit from income taxes was approximately $9.2 million for the fourth quarter. Company received cash income tax refunds in the amount of approximately $200,000. Capital expenditures were approximately $3.2 million in the quarter and $10.1 million for the year. Net loss was approximately $54.4 million or $12.24 per share, compared to a net loss of $35.7 million or $7.81 a share for the fourth quarter of 2024. During the three months ended December 31st, 2025, the company did not repurchase any shares of Class A common stock. We did repurchase 13,777 shares of Class D common stock for approximately $100,000 at an average price of $8.20 per share on a post-split basis. In January 2026, the company did a 1-for-10 reverse stock split and thereby regained compliance with the Nasdaq listing requirements. As of December 31st, 2025, the current outstanding debt balance was approximately $373.4 million, and ending unrestricted cash was $25.5 million, resulting in net debt of approximately $347.9 million, which compares to $56.7 million of LTM reported adjusted EBITDA, for a total net leverage ratio of 6.1x. With that, I'll hand back to Alfred. Thank you. Operator, can we open the lines up for Q&A please? We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. Again, for questions, please press star followed by the number one. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Once again, for questions, simply press star one on your telephone keypad. We have no questions at this time. Mr. Liggins, I'll hand the call back to you. Well, thank you very much and we appreciate your support. As always, we are available offline to answer any questions that you may think of after the fact. Thank you very much, and we'll see you next quarter. This will conclude today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Urban One 2025 fourth quarter earnings call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. We will begin this call with the following safe harbor statement. During this call, Urban One will be sharing with you certain projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or its future performance. Urban One cautions you that certain factors, including risks and uncertainties referred to in the 10-Ks, 10-Qs and other reports it periodically files with the Securities and Exchange Commission, could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from those indicated by its projections or forward-looking statements. This call will present information as of March 12th, 2026. Please note that Urban One disclaims any duty to update any forward-looking statements made in the presentation. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Urban One 2025 fourth quarter earnings call. ladies and gentlemen thank you for standing by and welcome to the urban one 2025 fourth quarter earnings call As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. as a reminder this conference is being recorded We will begin this call with the following safe harbor statement. we will begin this call with the following safe harbor statement During this call, Urban One will be sharing with you certain projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or its future performance. during this call urban one will be sharing with you certain projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or its future performance Urban One cautions you that certain factors, including risks and uncertainties referred to in the 10-Ks, 10-Qs and other reports it periodically files with the Securities and Exchange Commission, could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from those indicated by its projections or forward-looking statements. urban one cautions you that certain factors including risks and uncertainties referred to in the 10-ks 10-qs and other reports it periodically files with the securities and exchange commission could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from those indicated by its projections or forward-looking statements This call will present information as of March 12th, 2026. this call will present information as of march 12th 2026 Please note that Urban One disclaims any duty to update any forward-looking statements made in the presentation. please note that urban one disclaims any duty to update any forward-looking statements made in the presentation In this call, Urban One may also discuss some non-GAAP financial measures in talking about its performance. These measures will be reconciled to GAAP either during the course of this call or in the company's press release, which can be found on its website at www.urbanone.com. A replay of the conference call will be available from 2:00 P.M. Eastern Time, March 12th, 2026, until 11:59 P.M. Eastern Time, March 19th, 2026. Callers may access the replay by calling 1-800-770-2030. International callers may dial direct 1-609-800-9909. The replay access code is 9077729. Access to live audio and a replay of the conference will also be available on Urban One's corporate website at www.urbanone.com. The replay will be made available on the website for seven days after the call. In this call, Urban One may also discuss some non-GAAP financial measures in talking about its performance. in this call urban one may also discuss some non-gaap financial measures in talking about its performance These measures will be reconciled to GAAP either during the course of this call or in the company's press release, which can be found on its website at www.urbanone.com. these measures will be reconciled to gaap either during the course of this call or in the company's press release which can be found on its website at www.urbanone.com A replay of the conference call will be available from 2:00 P.M. a replay of the conference call will be available from 2:00 p.m Eastern Time, March 12th, 2026, until 11:59 P.M. eastern time march 12th 2026 until 11:59 p.m Eastern Time, March 19th, 2026. eastern time march 19th 2026 Callers may access the replay by calling 1-800-770-2030. callers may access the replay by calling 1-800-770-2030 International callers may dial direct 1-609-800-9909. international callers may dial direct 1-609-800-9909 The replay access code is 9077729. the replay access code is 9077729 Access to live audio and a replay of the conference will also be available on Urban One's corporate website at www.urbanone.com. access to live audio and a replay of the conference will also be available on urban one's corporate website at www.urbanone.com The replay will be made available on the website for seven days after the call. the replay will be made available on the website for seven days after the call No other recordings or copies of this call are authorized or may be relied upon. I will now turn the call over to Alfred C. Liggins, Chief Executive Officer of Urban One, who is joined by Peter Thompson, Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Liggins, please go ahead. No other recordings or copies of this call are authorized or may be relied upon. no other recordings or copies of this call are authorized or may be relied upon I will now turn the call over to Alfred C. i will now turn the call over to alfred c Liggins, Chief Executive Officer of Urban One, who is joined by Peter Thompson, Chief Financial Officer. liggins chief executive officer of urban one who is joined by peter thompson chief financial officer Mr. Liggins, please go ahead. mr liggins please go ahead
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, operator. Also joining us today are Kris Simpson, our General Counsel, Karen Wishart, our Chief Administrative Officer, Jody Drewer, who is the CFO of our cable television unit, TV One and CLEO. Thank you all very much for joining us for the fourth quarter results 2025 year-end conference call. As the press release has stated, we actually finished the year just inside our guidance at $56.7 million of EBITDA. We had previously also given guidance for 2026 of $70 million of EBITDA. We're just getting through first quarter. A lot of moving parts. We're gonna wait till we get to the end of first quarter into the next conference call to update you know any information on that. Thank you very much, operator. thank you very much operator Also joining us today are Kris Simpson, our General Counsel, Karen Wishart, our Chief Administrative Officer, Jody Drewer, who is the CFO of our cable television unit, TV One and CLEO . also joining us today are kris simpson our general counsel karen wishart our chief administrative officer jody drewer who is the cfo of our cable television unit tv one and cleo Thank you all very much for joining us for the fourth quarter results 2025 year-end conference call. thank you all very much for joining us for the fourth quarter results 2025 year-end conference call As the press release has stated, we actually finished the year just inside our guidance at $56.7 million of EBITDA. as the press release has stated we actually finished the year just inside our guidance at $56.7 million of ebitda We had previously also given guidance for 2026 of $70 million of EBITDA. we had previously also given guidance for 2026 of $70 million of ebitda We're just getting through first quarter. we're just getting through first quarter A lot of moving parts. a lot of moving parts We're gonna wait till we get to the end of first quarter into the next conference call to update you know any information on that. we're gonna wait till we get to the end of first quarter into the next conference call to update you know any information on that We're, you know, holding pat, you know, for the moment. Q1 started off a bit slower than we'd hoped. You know, current radio pacings are down about 5%, you know, but we're still positive about a number of our operational changes that we have made and also political that is gonna be coming in this year. We're also starting to see, you know, some significant improvements in our ratings at our cable television unit. A number of these factors are playing into our decision to hold on any sort of 2026 guidance update. We're, you know, holding pat, you know, for the moment. we're you know holding pat you know for the moment Q1 started off a bit slower than we'd hoped. q1 started off a bit slower than we'd hoped You know, current radio pacings are down about 5%, you know, but we're still positive about a number of our operational changes that we have made and also political that is gonna be coming in this year. you know current radio pacings are down about 5% you know but we're still positive about a number of our operational changes that we have made and also political that is gonna be coming in this year We're also starting to see, you know, some significant improvements in our ratings at our cable television unit. we're also starting to see you know some significant improvements in our ratings at our cable television unit A number of these factors are playing into our decision to hold on any sort of 2026 guidance update. a number of these factors are playing into our decision to hold on any sort of 2026 guidance update Very pleased that by the end of last year, we were able to do a significant capital markets transaction where we repurchased a significant amount of our 2028 notes at a discount. We extended out, you know, our maturities in an exchange, you know, into 2031, upsized our ABL credit facility. You know, we put the company in a much more stabilized position in terms of its capital structure to allow us to continue to focus on delevering the business and to try to take advantage of any, you know, offensive opportunities, particularly as it relates to deregulation in the radio business. Very pleased that by the end of last year, we were able to do a significant capital markets transaction where we repurchased a significant amount of our 2028 notes at a discount. very pleased that by the end of last year we were able to do a significant capital markets transaction where we repurchased a significant amount of our 2028 notes at a discount We extended out, you know, our maturities in an exchange, you know, into 2031, upsized our ABL credit facility. we extended out you know our maturities in an exchange you know into 2031 upsized our abl credit facility You know, we put the company in a much more stabilized position in terms of its capital structure to allow us to continue to focus on delevering the business and to try to take advantage of any, you know, offensive opportunities, particularly as it relates to deregulation in the radio business. you know we put the company in a much more stabilized position in terms of its capital structure to allow us to continue to focus on delevering the business and to try to take advantage of any you know offensive opportunities particularly as it relates to deregulation in the radio business We feel very good about that, and we continue to maintain our focus on delevering and including any transactions that we would look to do that we're also delevering. With that, I'm gonna turn it over to Peter, who's gonna give you details on the numbers, and then we'll open it up to Q&A. We feel very good about that, and we continue to maintain our focus on delevering and including any transactions that we would look to do that we're also delevering. we feel very good about that and we continue to maintain our focus on delevering and including any transactions that we would look to do that we're also delevering With that, I'm gonna turn it over to Peter, who's gonna give you details on the numbers, and then we'll open it up to Q&A. with that i'm gonna turn it over to peter who's gonna give you details on the numbers and then we'll open it up to q&a
Speaker 3: Thank you, Alfred. Consolidated net revenue for the three months ended December 31st, 2025, was approximately $97.8 million, down 16.5% year-over-year. Net revenue for the radio broadcasting segment was $35.1 million, which was a decrease of 26.5% year-over-year. Excluding political, net revenue was down 10.1% year-over-year. According to Miller Kaplan, our local ad sales were down 19% against our markets that were down 12.6%, and our national ad sales were down 40.1% against the market that was down 29.2%. Our largest ad category for the quarter was services, which was up 18.1%, primarily due to legal services. Thank you, Alfred. thank you alfred Consolidated net revenue for the three months ended December 31st, 2025, was approximately $97.8 million, down 16.5% year-over-year. consolidated net revenue for the three months ended december 31st 2025 was approximately $97.8 million down 16.5% year-over-year Net revenue for the radio broadcasting segment was $35.1 million, which was a decrease of 26.5% year-over-year. net revenue for the radio broadcasting segment was $35.1 million which was a decrease of 26.5% year-over-year Excluding political, net revenue was down 10.1% year-over-year. excluding political net revenue was down 10.1% year-over-year According to Miller Kaplan, our local ad sales were down 19% against our markets that were down 12.6%, and our national ad sales were down 40.1% against the market that was down 29.2%. according to miller kaplan our local ad sales were down 19% against our markets that were down 12.6% and our national ad sales were down 40.1% against the market that was down 29.2% Our largest ad category for the quarter was services, which was up 18.1%, primarily due to legal services. our largest ad category for the quarter was services which was up 18.1% primarily due to legal services Healthcare was up 3.5%, and financial was up 15.7%, but all of the other major categories were down. Healthcare was up 3.5%, and financial was up 15.7%, but all of the other major categories were down. healthcare was up 3.5% and financial was up 15.7% but all of the other major categories were down Net revenue for the Reach Media segment was $13.8 million in the fourth quarter, up 43.9% from the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA was approximately $0.9 million for the quarter. The increase was primarily driven by an increase in event revenue due to the timing of the Fantastic Voyage Cruise, which was in fourth quarter 2025 compared to the second quarter of 2024. There's a timing difference there. That increased revenue and expense was offset by a decrease in political revenue and decrease in network advertising revenue. Net revenues for the digital segment were down 19.6% in the quarter of $14.7 million. Decline was driven by decrease in direct revenue streams as a result of decreased DEI money, lower political and lower client spending in general. Net revenue for the Reach Media segment was $13.8 million in the fourth quarter, up 43.9% from the prior year. net revenue for the reach media segment was $13.8 million in the fourth quarter up 43.9% from the prior year Adjusted EBITDA was approximately $0.9 million for the quarter. adjusted ebitda was approximately $0.9 million for the quarter The increase was primarily driven by an increase in event revenue due to the timing of the Fantastic Voyage Cruise, which was in fourth quarter 2025 compared to the second quarter of 2024. the increase was primarily driven by an increase in event revenue due to the timing of the fantastic voyage cruise which was in fourth quarter 2025 compared to the second quarter of 2024 There's a timing difference there. there's a timing difference there That increased revenue and expense was offset by a decrease in political revenue and decrease in network advertising revenue. that increased revenue and expense was offset by a decrease in political revenue and decrease in network advertising revenue Net revenues for the digital segment were down 19.6% in the quarter of $14.7 million. net revenues for the digital segment were down 19.6% in the quarter of $14.7 million Decline was driven by decrease in direct revenue streams as a result of decreased DEI money, lower political and lower client spending in general. decline was driven by decrease in direct revenue streams as a result of decreased dei money lower political and lower client spending in general Direct digital sales were down by $2.7 million for the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $1.8 million compared to $2.7 million last year. We recognized approximately $34.9 million of revenue from our cable television segment during the quarter, which is a decrease of 16.8%. Cable television advertising revenue was down 21.8%. Our prime delivery declined approximately 20% from the third quarter for persons 25-54. Cable TV affiliate revenue was down by 9%, which was driven by subscriber churn, being partially offset by an increase in subscriber rates, and the launch of NOW TV. Cable subscribers for TV One, as measured by Nielsen, finished the fourth quarter at 30.2 million, compared to 34.1 million at the end of Q3. Direct digital sales were down by $2.7 million for the quarter. direct digital sales were down by $2.7 million for the quarter Adjusted EBITDA was $1.8 million compared to $2.7 million last year. adjusted ebitda was $1.8 million compared to $2.7 million last year We recognized approximately $34.9 million of revenue from our cable television segment during the quarter, which is a decrease of 16.8%. we recognized approximately $34.9 million of revenue from our cable television segment during the quarter which is a decrease of 16.8% Cable television advertising revenue was down 21.8%. cable television advertising revenue was down 21.8% Our prime delivery declined approximately 20% from the third quarter for persons 25-54. our prime delivery declined approximately 20% from the third quarter for persons 25-54 Cable TV affiliate revenue was down by 9%, which was driven by subscriber churn, being partially offset by an increase in subscriber rates, and the launch of NOW TV. cable tv affiliate revenue was down by 9% which was driven by subscriber churn being partially offset by an increase in subscriber rates and the launch of now tv Cable subscribers for TV One, as measured by Nielsen, finished the fourth quarter at 30.2 million, compared to 34.1 million at the end of Q3. cable subscribers for tv one as measured by nielsen finished the fourth quarter at 30.2 million compared to 34.1 million at the end of q3 The decline is a result of the combination of churn and also a conversion of virtual deals that's being sold as connected television and therefore pulled out of the Nielsen numbers. CLEO TV had 33 million Nielsen subscribers at the end of the period. Operating expenses excluding depreciation, amortization, stock-based compensation, and impairment of goodwill and intangible assets, were approximately $90.2 million for the three months compared to approximately $91.1 million for the comparable period in 2024. Our operating expenses in the period included $70.7 million of debt refinancing costs, as well as $6.7 million of expenses related to Fantastic Voyage Cruise. Excluding those two items, operating expenses were actually down by approximately 17%. The decline is a result of the combination of churn and also a conversion of virtual deals that's being sold as connected television and therefore pulled out of the Nielsen numbers. the decline is a result of the combination of churn and also a conversion of virtual deals that's being sold as connected television and therefore pulled out of the nielsen numbers CLEO TV had 33 million Nielsen subscribers at the end of the period. cleo tv had 33 million nielsen subscribers at the end of the period Operating expenses excluding depreciation, amortization, stock-based compensation, and impairment of goodwill and intangible assets, were approximately $90.2 million for the three months compared to approximately $91.1 million for the comparable period in 2024. operating expenses excluding depreciation amortization stock-based compensation and impairment of goodwill and intangible assets were approximately $90.2 million for the three months compared to approximately $91.1 million for the comparable period in 2024 Our operating expenses in the period included $70.7 million of debt refinancing costs, as well as $6.7 million of expenses related to Fantastic Voyage Cruise. our operating expenses in the period included $70.7 million of debt refinancing costs as well as $6.7 million of expenses related to fantastic voyage cruise Excluding those two items, operating expenses were actually down by approximately 17%. excluding those two items operating expenses were actually down by approximately 17% That was driven mainly by revenue-related variable expenses such as commissions, sales rep fees, traffic acquisition costs in digital, as well as headcount and related, third-party professional fees. Radio operating expenses were down 17.8%, or $5.7 million, driven primarily by decreasing commissions and headcount-related expenses. Reach operating expenses were up by 86.1% due to the timing of the Fantastic Voyage. Excluding the event expenses, then expenses at Reach were down by 12.1%, which was driven by talent and headcount-related, expense reductions. Operating expenses in the digital segment were down by 18.5%, driven by a decrease in traffic acquisition costs, commissions, headcount-related savings, and video production costs. That was driven mainly by revenue-related variable expenses such as commissions, sales rep fees, traffic acquisition costs in digital, as well as headcount and related, third-party professional fees. that was driven mainly by revenue-related variable expenses such as commissions sales rep fees traffic acquisition costs in digital as well as headcount and related third-party professional fees Radio operating expenses were down 17.8%, or $5.7 million, driven primarily by decreasing commissions and headcount-related expenses. radio operating expenses were down 17.8% or $5.7 million driven primarily by decreasing commissions and headcount-related expenses Reach operating expenses were up by 86.1% due to the timing of the Fantastic Voyage. reach operating expenses were up by 86.1% due to the timing of the fantastic voyage Excluding the event expenses, then expenses at Reach were down by 12.1%, which was driven by talent and headcount-related, expense reductions. excluding the event expenses then expenses at reach were down by 12.1% which was driven by talent and headcount-related expense reductions Operating expenses in the digital segment were down by 18.5%, driven by a decrease in traffic acquisition costs, commissions, headcount-related savings, and video production costs. operating expenses in the digital segment were down by 18.5% driven by a decrease in traffic acquisition costs commissions headcount-related savings and video production costs Operating expenses in the cable television segment were down 8.3%, driven by lower headcount costs, commission, bad debt, and a reduction in program development write-offs. Operating expenses in corporate were up by approximately $4 million, driven by an increase in the debt refinancing costs that were recorded in Q4 of $7.7 million, which was offset by lower third-party legal and professional fees, software license fees, and other expense reductions at corporate. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $15.6 million for the fourth quarter, which was down 41.8%. Consolidated broadcast and digital operating income was approximately $23.8 million, a decrease of 38.3%. Operating expenses in the cable television segment were down 8.3%, driven by lower headcount costs, commission, bad debt, and a reduction in program development write-offs. operating expenses in the cable television segment were down 8.3% driven by lower headcount costs commission bad debt and a reduction in program development write-offs Operating expenses in corporate were up by approximately $4 million, driven by an increase in the debt refinancing costs that were recorded in Q4 of $7.7 million, which was offset by lower third-party legal and professional fees, software license fees, and other expense reductions at corporate. operating expenses in corporate were up by approximately $4 million driven by an increase in the debt refinancing costs that were recorded in q4 of $7.7 million which was offset by lower third-party legal and professional fees software license fees and other expense reductions at corporate Consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $15.6 million for the fourth quarter, which was down 41.8%. consolidated adjusted ebitda was $15.6 million for the fourth quarter which was down 41.8% Consolidated broadcast and digital operating income was approximately $23.8 million, a decrease of 38.3%. consolidated broadcast and digital operating income was approximately $23.8 million a decrease of 38.3% On December 18th, 2025, the company closed a private tender exchange offer with the holders of the 2028 senior secured notes, representing more than 97% of the aggregate principal amount outstanding. The company tendered for $185 million of the 2028 notes at 60%. We issued $60.6 million aggregate principal amount of 10.5% first lien senior secured notes due 2030. We issued $291 million aggregate principal amount of 7.625% second lien secured notes due 2031. Following the transaction, $11.8 million of the 2028 notes remained outstanding. On December 18th, 2025, the company closed a private tender exchange offer with the holders of the 2028 senior secured notes, representing more than 97% of the aggregate principal amount outstanding. The company tendered for $185 million of the 2028 notes at 60%. on december 18th 2025 the company closed a private tender exchange offer with the holders of the 2028 senior secured notes representing more than 97% of the aggregate principal amount outstanding. the company tendered for $185 million of the 2028 notes at 60% We issued $60.6 million aggregate principal amount of 10.5% first lien senior secured notes due 2030. we issued $60.6 million aggregate principal amount of 10.5% first lien senior secured notes due 2030 We issued $291 million aggregate principal amount of 7.625% second lien secured notes due 2031. we issued $291 million aggregate principal amount of 7.625% second lien secured notes due 2031 Following the transaction, $11.8 million of the 2028 notes remained outstanding. following the transaction $11.8 million of the 2028 notes remained outstanding We had to account for the transaction under the troubled debt restructuring rules, which means that we don't recognize the gain on the tender P&L, and instead, we effectively capitalize that on the balance sheet as a premium. That will have a knock-on effect in future periods of reducing the P&L interest expense. The difference between the cash interest expense and the P&L interest expense will go to reduce the premium over time. Interest and investment income was approximately $0.4 million in the fourth quarter compared to $1.1 million last year. Decrease was due to lower cash balances in interest-bearing accounts. We had to account for the transaction under the troubled debt restructuring rules, which means that we don't recognize the gain on the tender P&L, and instead, we effectively capitalize that on the balance sheet as a premium. we had to account for the transaction under the troubled debt restructuring rules which means that we don't recognize the gain on the tender p&l and instead we effectively capitalize that on the balance sheet as a premium That will have a knock-on effect in future periods of reducing the P&L interest expense. that will have a knock-on effect in future periods of reducing the p&l interest expense The difference between the cash interest expense and the P&L interest expense will go to reduce the premium over time. the difference between the cash interest expense and the p&l interest expense will go to reduce the premium over time Interest and investment income was approximately $0.4 million in the fourth quarter compared to $1.1 million last year. interest and investment income was approximately $0.4 million in the fourth quarter compared to $1.1 million last year Decrease was due to lower cash balances in interest-bearing accounts. decrease was due to lower cash balances in interest-bearing accounts Interest expense decreased to approximately $8.7 million in Q4, down from $11.5 million in last year due to lower overall debt balances. The company made cash interest payments of approximately $13.4 million in the quarter, and during the first three quarters, the company repurchased $96.7 million of its 2028 notes at an average price of 53.6% at par, bringing the balance to $487.8 million as of September 30th. The debt transaction in the fourth quarter further reduced the outstanding long-term debt balance to $363.4 million at year-end. At the same time as the debt transaction happened, we drew down $10 million from our new ABL credit facility. Interest expense decreased to approximately $8.7 million in Q4, down from $11.5 million in last year due to lower overall debt balances. The company made cash interest payments of approximately $13.4 million in the quarter, and during the first three quarters, the company repurchased $96.7 million of its 2028 notes at an average price of 53.6% at par, bringing the balance to $487.8 million as of September 30th. interest expense decreased to approximately $8.7 million in q4 down from $11.5 million in last year due to lower overall debt balances. the company made cash interest payments of approximately $13.4 million in the quarter and during the first three quarters the company repurchased $96.7 million of its 2028 notes at an average price of 53.6% at par bringing the balance to $487.8 million as of september 30th The debt transaction in the fourth quarter further reduced the outstanding long-term debt balance to $363.4 million at year-end. the debt transaction in the fourth quarter further reduced the outstanding long-term debt balance to $363.4 million at year-end At the same time as the debt transaction happened, we drew down $10 million from our new ABL credit facility. at the same time as the debt transaction happened we drew down $10 million from our new abl credit facility In the first quarter of 2026, we paid the $10 million draw on the ABL, and we also purchased an additional $4.3 million in the 2028 notes at 51% at par, bringing the current outstanding total debt balance to $359.1 million. $55.3 million in non-cash impairment charges were recorded, and that was made up of half a million at Reach Media, $53.1 million at Cable Television, and $1.7 million within the digital reporting unit. We recorded amortization expense of approximately $400,000 for the radio broadcast license TV One trade name for the three months. Benefit from income taxes was approximately $9.2 million for the fourth quarter. In the first quarter of 2026, we paid the $10 million draw on the ABL, and we also purchased an additional $4.3 million in the 2028 notes at 51% at par, bringing the current outstanding total debt balance to $359.1 million. $55.3 million in non-cash impairment charges were recorded, and that was made up of half a million at Reach Media, $53.1 million at Cable Television, and $1.7 million within the digital reporting unit. in the first quarter of 2026 we paid the $10 million draw on the abl and we also purchased an additional $4.3 million in the 2028 notes at 51% at par bringing the current outstanding total debt balance to $359.1 million $55.3 million in non-cash impairment charges were recorded and that was made up of half a million at reach media $53.1 million at cable television and $1.7 million within the digital reporting unit We recorded amortization expense of approximately $400,000 for the radio broadcast license TV One trade name for the three months. we recorded amortization expense of approximately $400,000 for the radio broadcast license tv one trade name for the three months Benefit from income taxes was approximately $9.2 million for the fourth quarter. benefit from income taxes was approximately $9.2 million for the fourth quarter Company received cash income tax refunds in the amount of approximately $200,000. Capital expenditures were approximately $3.2 million in the quarter and $10.1 million for the year. Net loss was approximately $54.4 million or $12.24 per share, compared to a net loss of $35.7 million or $7.81 a share for the fourth quarter of 2024. During the three months ended December 31st, 2025, the company did not repurchase any shares of Class A common stock. We did repurchase 13,777 shares of Class D common stock for approximately $100,000 at an average price of $8.20 per share on a post-split basis. Company received cash income tax refunds in the amount of approximately $200,000. company received cash income tax refunds in the amount of approximately $200,000 Capital expenditures were approximately $3.2 million in the quarter and $10.1 million for the year. capital expenditures were approximately $3.2 million in the quarter and $10.1 million for the year Net loss was approximately $54.4 million or $12.24 per share, compared to a net loss of $35.7 million or $7.81 a share for the fourth quarter of 2024. net loss was approximately $54.4 million or $12.24 per share compared to a net loss of $35.7 million or $7.81 a share for the fourth quarter of 2024 During the three months ended December 31st, 2025, the company did not repurchase any shares of Class A common stock. during the three months ended december 31st 2025 the company did not repurchase any shares of class a common stock We did repurchase 13,777 shares of Class D common stock for approximately $100,000 at an average price of $8.20 per share on a post-split basis. we did repurchase 13,777 shares of class d common stock for approximately $100,000 at an average price of $8.20 per share on a post-split basis In January 2026, the company did a 1-for-10 reverse stock split and thereby regained compliance with the Nasdaq listing requirements. As of December 31st, 2025, the current outstanding debt balance was approximately $373.4 million, and ending unrestricted cash was $25.5 million, resulting in net debt of approximately $347.9 million, which compares to $56.7 million of LTM reported adjusted EBITDA, for a total net leverage ratio of 6.1x. With that, I'll hand back to Alfred. In January 2026, the company did a 1-for-10 reverse stock split and thereby regained compliance with the Nasdaq listing requirements. in january 2026 the company did a 1-for-10 reverse stock split and thereby regained compliance with the nasdaq listing requirements As of December 31st, 2025, the current outstanding debt balance was approximately $373.4 million, and ending unrestricted cash was $25.5 million, resulting in net debt of approximately $347.9 million, which compares to $56.7 million of LTM reported adjusted EBITDA, for a total net leverage ratio of 6.1x. as of december 31st 2025 the current outstanding debt balance was approximately $373.4 million and ending unrestricted cash was $25.5 million resulting in net debt of approximately $347.9 million which compares to $56.7 million of ltm reported adjusted ebitda for a total net leverage ratio of 6.1x With that, I'll hand back to Alfred . with that i'll hand back to alfred
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