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TEREX CORP — Call Transcript 2026
Feb 11, 2026
Thank you. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Derek Everitt, Vice President, Investor Relations. Good morning and welcome to the Terex Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. A copy of the press release and presentation slides are posted on our Investor Relations website at investors.terex.com. In addition, the replay and slide presentation will be available on our website. We are joined today by Simon Meester, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Jennifer Kong, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Their prepared remarks will be followed by a Q&A. Please turn to slide two of the presentation, which reflects our Safe Harbor statement. Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements which are subject to the risks that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied. These risks are described in greater detail in the earnings materials and in our reports filed with the SEC. On this call, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial information, including adjusted figures that we believe are useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. Reconciliations for these non-GAAP measures can be found in the conference call materials. Please turn to slide three. I'll hand it over to Simon Meester. Thanks, Derek, and good morning. I would like to welcome everyone to our earnings call and appreciate your interest in Terex. Last week, we concluded our merger with REV Group, a defining milestone in Terex's transformation. With this combination, we've created a leading specialty equipment manufacturer with premium brands across multiple industries, with a strong manufacturing footprint, a leading technology play, and clear tangible synergies across the portfolio. What began with our 2024 acquisition of ESG, which delivered value immediately, is now being amplified by bringing Terex and REV together, creating greater scale and an even more resilient new company. REV generated approximately $2.5 billion of revenue and $230 million of Adjusted EBITDA in its recently completed fiscal year, with the majority coming from essential low-cyclical end markets. Beyond strengthening the predictability of our growing earnings and free cash flow, the merger also reduces our overall capital intensity, giving us greater flexibility to create additional shareholder value. I want to thank both the Terex and REV teams for their tireless efforts to close this transaction ahead of schedule. It's only been a few days since closing, but the teams are already working hand in hand to execute our integration and synergy plans. We completed the ESG integration in Q3 of 2025 and captured synergies ahead of expectations. We're using the same integration playbook for the merger with REV. The integration will be straightforward. REV's businesses are joining Terex as a standalone operating segment with no organizational changes outside our corporate functions. Our new specialty vehicle segment will include emergency vehicles and will continue to be led by Mike Virnig, and recreational vehicles, which will continue to be led by Gary Gunter. Both Mike and Gary bring deep REV experience, assuring continuity while driving further improvements. We expect to deliver roughly $37.5 million of the $75 million run rate synergies within the next 12 months and the full amount by 2028. Most early savings will come from eliminating duplicate corporate costs, but the synergy potential goes much deeper. Over the last 16 months, we have reshaped the Terex portfolio, creating what I believe is the most intrinsically synergistic, resilient, and competitive portfolio in our history. We now have significant scale in Specialty Vehicles that share similar operational and go-to-market characteristics. This creates not only near-term efficiencies but also meaningful opportunities for operational improvement and long-term growth across Terex. With regards to the strategic review of the Aerials business, which we announced during our last call, we have been receiving strong inbound interest from a number of interested parties. We're being deliberate in our evaluation of the interest and the best approach to maximize shareholder value. Turning to slide four. Combining with REV significantly shifts our end market exposure. We now serve a large, diverse, addressable market with stable, attractive growth profiles. Customers across these verticals value lifecycle services, creating sizable opportunities to expand our aftermarket and digital offerings. Emergency vehicles benefit from stable and growing municipal budgets tied to maintaining required response times among the growing population. In waste and recycling, growth is fueled by population and recycling trends coupled with ongoing fleet replacement. Customers also accelerate upgrades to unlock the value of new vehicle innovations and digital solutions, where we are the clear industry leader. Utilities are poised for strong growth from 2026 onward as demand on the U.S. electrical grid increases, particularly from data center expansion. Industry forecasts call for 8%-15% annual CapEx growth through 2030. Altogether, we now have multiple channels into nearly every municipality in the United States, which collectively spend $200 billion per year on capital equipment. A tremendous long-term opportunity. In construction, we continue to see robust infrastructure activities supported by government funding. The pipeline of megaprojects continues to expand, providing a tailwind through at least 2030. We're seeing momentum building in Europe, and strong growth continues in the Middle East and India, where MP already has a solid foundation. Let's move to a summary of our financial results on slide five before handing it over to Jen to go into more detail. I'm proud of our team for delivering on our 2025 expectations, navigating numerous challenges throughout the year. Their performance and the strength of our portfolio enabled us to deliver earnings per share of $4.93, consistent with our outlook, EBITDA of $635 million or 11.7%, free cash flow of $325 million, and a cash conversion of 147%, all in line with our expectations. Looking to 2026, we see positive momentum across most of our segments to varying degrees. Environmental Solutions bookings grew 16% year-over-year in Q4, led by Utilities. MP achieved its highest margins of the year in Q4 as efficiency and tariff mitigation initiatives took hold, and bookings accelerated, particularly in aggregates and material handling. Aerials secured nearly $1 billion of new orders in Q4, up 46% from the prior year, and Specialty Vehicles recorded strong bookings the last three months with a roughly two-year backlog coverage coupled with strong momentum on margin expansion. This positions Terex for a strong 2026. With that, I will turn it over to Jen. Thank you, Simon, and good morning, everyone. Let's look at our Q4 results and slide six. Our fourth quarter financial performance was largely in line with our expectations. Environmental Solutions continue to grow and deliver consistently strong margins. Materials Processing achieved its highest operating margin of the year, and Aerial sales grew year-over-year in the quarter following four quarters of decline. Total net sales of $1.3 billion grew 6% year-over-year. Excluding ESG, our legacy sales grew by 5%. Q4 operating margin was 9.3%, up 150 basis points versus the prior year due to improved performance in all three segments. Interest and other expenses of $43 million was $4 million higher than Q4 last year. The fourth quarter effective tax rate was 8.1%, driven by favorable one-time tax attributes. EPS for the quarter was $1.12, or $0.35 higher than last year. EBITDA was $141 million, or 10.6% of sales, 140 basis points better than last year. We generated $172 million of free cash flow in Q4, which was $43 million greater than last year due to higher operating income and improved working capital performance. Let's turn to slide seven for our full year results. Net sales grew 6% to $5.4 billion at the full year contribution from ESG acquisition, more than offset declines in Aerials and MP. Legacy sales declined 11%. Operating margin of 10.4% was 90 basis points lower than 2024 due to lower volumes in Aerials and MP, and higher tariff costs, which mainly impacted Aerials. This was partially offset by improved margins in Terex Utilities and the accretive addition of ESG. Interest and other expenses of $172 million increased by $89 million due to financing costs associated with acquiring ESG. Our full year effective tax rate of 17.2% was consistent with last year as favorable one-time tax attributes from the Queensland voucher offset higher USD income. Earnings per share of $4.93 was consistent with the outlook we provided for the entire year. We improved our full year free cash flow by 71% to $325 million, representing a conversion rate of 147%. Despite volume and tariff headwinds throughout the year, our teams continued to execute working capital improvement plans and delivered on our full year free cash flow expectations. ESG's incremental cash flow more than offset the interest expense associated with the financing. We continue to improve our operating cash flow and working capital efficiency, giving us more options to return value to shareholders. Please turn to slide eight to review our segment results, starting with Environmental Solutions. Our ES segment finished 2025 with another excellent quarter, generating $428 million of sales, representing 14.1% year-over-year growth on a pro forma basis. The strong growth was driven by improved throughput and delivery of utility and refuse trucks. For the full year, sales increased 12.7% on a pro forma basis to $1.7 billion. Q4 operating margins of 18.5% were 90 basis points better than the prior year, driven by improved performance in Utilities, while ESG margins were consistent with the prior year. On a full year basis, the segment achieved 18.8% operating margin, 220 basis points better than the pro forma 2024 results, driven by improvements in both businesses. I was very pleased with the ES segment performance in 2025, particularly the high degree of collaboration between the ESG and utility teams, executing synergies and operational improvements that will benefit Terex going forward. Turning to slide nine. MP fourth-quarter sales of $428 million were 2.5% lower than last year. Excluding the divested Queen businesses, MP sales increased by 2.8% in Q4 on a like-for-like basis. Growth in aggregates was the primary driver as sales grew in every global region, with the strongest growth coming from Europe. On a full-year basis, sales of $1.7 billion were 11.6% lower than 2024, mainly due to channel adjustments we experienced in the first half of the year. MP operating margins continued to improve, reaching 13.7% in the quarter as efficiency improvements and pricing actions ramped up in the quarter. The positive margin trajectory and increased bookings set MP well, heading into 2026. Please turn to slide 10. Aerials closed out 2025 on a positive note with year-over-year sales growth of 6.9%, including growth in North America and EMEA. Aerials Q4 operating margins of 2.6% was consistent with our expectations, 200 basis points better than prior. Tariff headwinds, including the expanded 232 tariff that was implemented in August, could not be fully mitigated in the period as ongoing supply chains and cost reduction actions will continue in 2026. Please turn to slide 11. Q4 bookings of $1.9 billion grew 32% compared to last year on a pro forma basis, with positive trends across our segment. In Environmental Solutions, we continue to see positive momentum in bookings, which grew 16% year-over-year, up 13% on a trailing 12-month basis, led by strong demand for utility vehicles. A healthy backlog of $1.1 billion provides strong forward visibility for the segment heading into 2026. MP bookings increased 24% year-over-year, or 32% when you exclude the divested Queensland business. The growth was led by aggregates and material handling, more than offsetting some moderation in concrete. MP ended 2025 with $71 million more backlog than the prior year, or $100 million higher when you adjust out the divested Queensland businesses from 2024. Finally, Aerials bookings of $971 million was up 46% compared to the prior year, driven by replacement demand from our national customers. While growth was strongest in North America, we also saw growth in EMEA and Asia Pacific, providing good visibility into 2026. Now, turn to slide 12 for our 2026 outlook. We are operating in a complex environment with many macroeconomic variables and geopolitical uncertainties, and results could change negatively or positively. The outlook we are providing today reflects our current portfolio and does not account for any cost to achieve the synergies, purchase accounting adjustments, nor other non-recurring items. Following the close of REV transaction last week, our 2026 outlook reflects the newly combined companies, including 11 months of REV, with positive momentum from strong Q4 bookings and backlog in every segment. We expect 2026 sales to grow approximately 5% on a pro forma basis to $7.5-$8.1 billion. We further expect pro forma EBITDA to grow by approximately $100 million, or 12% year-over-year, to between $930 million and $1 billion, or 12.4% EBITDA margin at the midpoint. Our EBITDA outlook includes approximately $28 million of synergies for 2026, in line with our goal to achieve $75 million of run rate synergies within two years. We anticipate interest and other expenses to be approximately $190 million, consistent with pro forma 2025, based on average debt outstanding of about $2.7 billion. The effective tax rate is expected to be higher at 21%, driven by higher USD income. As expected, the merger has a modest 3% diluted effect on EPS in 2026 due to higher number of shares outstanding post-merger. We expect 2026 EPS between $4.50-$5, with a share account of 111 million shares, as compared to a legacy Terex range of $4.80-$5.20. For modeling purposes, approximately 15% of our full year EPS is expected in the first quarter, as it will only include two months of Specialty Vehicles earnings and seasonally lower volume in legacy Terex. We expect 2026 cash conversion of between 80% and 90% of net income, including transaction costs and costs to achieve synergies. Our net leverage is expected to improve over the course of the year. Looking at our segments, we expect Environmental Solutions to grow in the single digits in 2026, led by Utilities, where we continue to see strong demand for bucket trucks and digger derricks used in the electric power market. We are currently anticipating roughly flat sales on ESG, with upside potential in the second half as we get more clarity on fleet requirements and EPA emission regulations for a second-half prebuy. We continue to see growth in our market leading digital solutions in the waste sector and expanding into Utilities and concrete. We will explore opportunities to extend this technology into emergency vehicles during integration. ES achieved strong profitability in 2025, and we anticipate similar full year margins in 2026 as synergy executions and productivity offset the unfavorable mix from higher Utilities growth. Turning to MP, we expect the segment to inflect back to full year growth in the high single digit range in 2026 on a pro forma basis, excluding Queensland. Fleet utilizations and aging equipment resulted in strong bookings in aggregate handling and environmental. We also expect margins to improve in 2026 due to higher volume, productivity, and pricing action. Our new specialty vehicle segment enters 2026 with roughly two years of backlog. We expect sales growth of high single digits from a comparable pro forma prior year total of $2.2 billion, excluding the divested Lance Camper and Midwest Automotive Designs RV businesses. We also expect meaningful margin improvement in SV compared to the prior year period EBITDA margin of approximately 12.5% on a pro forma basis due to higher throughput, price, and ongoing operational improvements. Finally, in Aerials, we anticipate 2026 sales and margins to be similar to 2025. We have good visibility heading into 2026 with $906 million backlog following strong Q4 bookings. Overall, I'm very excited about our opportunity to grow and continue to improve the financial performance of our new company in 2026. Turning to slide 13. In 2025, we maintain our commitment to invest in our businesses to fuel organic growth, with over $118 million in capital expenditures targeted at automation, innovation, throughput, and efficiency improvements, among other growth accelerants. As expected, we returned $98 million to shareholders through dividends and share buybacks last year. We purposefully structured the merger to maintain a strong balance sheet and flexible capital structure to enable organic investments and lower net leverage. That said, we have not assumed any significant debt repayments as they do not mature until 2029. Please turn to slide 14, and I'll turn it back to Simon. Thanks, Jen. 2025 was a consequential year in the long history of Terex. We successfully completed the integration of ESG, navigated multiple macro and market headwinds, and ultimately delivered on our original 2025 guidance. We also announced and have now completed our merger with REV. With this merger, we have created a leading specialty equipment manufacturer with a highly complementary and synergistic portfolio serving a diverse set of attractive, resilient, and growing end markets. Our focus has already shifted to executing the REV integration, capturing at least $75 million of synergies, and delivering on the commitments we've made across each of our segments. I'm excited about the road ahead, and I know our team is energized as we continue to build the new Terex together. And with that, I would like to open it up for questions. Operator? At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then one on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Tim Thein with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Great. Thank you. Good morning. The first question. The MP segment, and you highlighted strength in aggregates and material handling within the order comments, which if sustained would or should be good in terms of product mix. I'm curious on the pricing side and kind of your visibility in terms of what you have in the backlog with respect to crushing and screening being an important piece there. Some of your larger international competitors are facing some sizable tariff headwinds in North America. So maybe you can just talk about what you're seeing and your expectations just around that pricing tailwind that you highlighted in the fourth quarter, how that's kind of influencing your outlook for 2026. Hey, Tim. Good morning. This is Jen. So the pricing, as you know, we do not disclose specifically on the segment basis, but you could see that we have a progressive step up in our margin profile in Q4 versus Q3 for MP, and a large portion of that is driven by price flowing through the P&L. We expect that with the strong backlog that we ended in December, that to flow through, and it progressively step up again throughout the year for 2026 by quarter. Okay. Good. Jen, I apologize if I missed it, but with Aerials specifically, kind of the interplay with tariffs and how you're expecting price cost to play out just more broadly for Aerials in 2026, I'm guessing it's more of a second-half story, but maybe you can just comment on that. And again, apologies if I missed that. Thank you. Right. So the errors in the prepared remarks, we say that we're expecting kind of flat revenue and also kind of flat margin profile. We expect that in 2026, that we have more headwinds in the hours given that the tariffs is going to be 12 months of impact versus about approximately six months of impact in 2025. That translates rounding on a number standpoint, about $16 million more, and we're offsetting that to productivity and price for a net impact of flat throughout the year. In first-half year, we expect that the price cost neutrality to be more skewed towards the second-half of the year, but at the end of the year, we're going to be flat, holding our margins with a flat top line. A little less favorable in the first half, a little bit more favorable in the second half. Got it. Thank you. Thanks, Tim. Your next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Yes. Hi. Good morning, everyone. Hey. Good morning. Simon? Hi. Simon? I wondered if we could just talk about the REV integration. I saw the divestiture. The business has been operating really well in terms of driving higher efficiency rates. Can you just talk about the plan for the business from here relative to what we heard from the REV team maybe six to nine months ago and any update on order cadence and expectations for bookings as well? It sounds like there's more opportunity from a manufacturing standpoint, but I'm wondering if you could just expand on that, please. Yeah. No. Thanks for the question. So it's been nine days now since we closed, so we're very excited. Yeah. Obviously, it's mostly a throughput story because, again, going into 2026, our specialty vehicle segment, legacy REV, if you will, still operates with about a 2-year backlog, and they did report relatively strong bookings again in their last fiscal quarter. So it's mostly just to make sure that we keep burning that backlog down as much as we can. So it's going to be all about throughput. Now, there's obviously price in that backlog, so it's going to be a combination of price and volume that's going to drive the margin improvement in 2026. But it's mostly just making sure we keep that operational momentum. That's why we were so eager on making sure that we keep the organization intact and that we can just purely focus on making sure we keep that momentum going into 2026. Okay. Super. And separately, ESG is pleasantly surprised with the bookings, it sounds like, within the high part of the portfolio are more resilient than what I would have thought three months ago given what the waste companies have been talking about. Truck plants, can you just expand on what you're saying? Is that the impact of the EPA '27 certainty or just if you wouldn't mind just double-clicking on the really good performance within Heil? Yeah. Obviously, I would say the segment, the Environmental Solutions segment, recorded outstanding performance in 2025, and a lot of that was driven by Heil, by ESG. But also, we saw synergies kicking in with Utilities, so we saw the Utilities business stepping up as well. But ESG was leading the charge, if you will, in terms of top line. And now in 2026, we see that kind of flipping, so Utilities is now accelerating a little bit more than ESG. We're expecting ESG to be kind of flattish from a top-line perspective and most of the growth coming from Utilities. But yeah, we feel that that segment has a lot of momentum. We don't see that slowing down anytime soon, so we're very pleased with how ES is performing. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Angel Castillo with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to unpack a little bit more on the aerial side too. You had a very strong quarter for bookings there, and you talked about replacement demand from the rental customers. Can you just talk a little bit more what you're hearing from the customer base broadly in this space? And I think one of your competitors talked about a little bit of pull forward potentially into the fourth quarter. Did you see any of that, or how are you seeing, in particular, maybe orders in January and February kind of following that stronger fourth quarter and continuing that? Yeah. If you look at last year, we had strong book-to-bill in both Q4 and Q1. I think average both quarters was about 150%. This year, Q4 coming in over 200%. We expect Q1 to be somewhat north of 100%, but it's probably fair to assume that both quarters will average again at about 150% book-to-bill. So that kind of sets our guidance being flat because we expect Q1 to be a little softer than Q1 of last year, still north of 100%. But overall, yeah, going into the year with 5-6 months of coverage obviously gives us a good forward visibility. But the reality is most of the demand is still just coming from mega projects, coming from the nationals. Europe is picking up a little bit, not that material, but we haven't baked any major recovery with the independents into our guide for 2026. We expect that to happen more in 2027. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then could we just unpack a little bit more just on the commentaries around ES? I think if you could talk about the backlog there as well, it sounds like Utilities is seeing a nice uplift. So just the shape of that into next year, and then if you could, I guess, Jen, if you could just unpack the margin dynamic a little bit. It sounds like Utilities should be a positive for margins, a nice tailwind there. And you expect, I think, if I heard correctly, ESG flattish, but it sounds like there's some factors maybe weighing on that margin and keeping the full segment more flattish for the full year. So if you could just unpack the puts and takes and maybe talk about it on a quarterly basis, that'd be helpful. Good morning. So I'll take the margin question, and then I'll let Simon take the backlog question. So you're right. For the margin, when we said in the prepared remarks that the margin is flattish, I'm referring to a percentage-wise, and value-wise is still increasing. So the higher top-line growth coming from Utilities will drive an unfavorable mix. However, it's being offset by the synergies flowing through in the ES reportable segments and also driven by the productivity that they have been working to. In 2025, we communicated that the Utilities division within the ES segment has demonstrated progressive growth in the margin profile. We expect that to continue into 2026 as the team actually re-layout the Waukesha factory and also looking at standardization. Yeah. And then on the backlog, so yeah, ESG did an outstanding job in 2025 leading the industry, quite frankly, in terms of throughput and reducing lead times. And so going into 2026, we see lead times now kind of have normalized in ESG. So we're back to kind of pre-COVID levels, backlog coverage, so 3-4 months forward visibility. We didn't put any EPA prebuys into our outlook for ESG, and that's why we're kind of holding them flat. And Utilities is actually the backlog continues to increase, hence the reason we're expanding our capacity in that particular segment, which is already ramping up as we speak. So we're expecting to add about 20%-30% capacity in Utilities just to keep up with the rising demand. Very helpful. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Hi. Good morning. I guess two questions. First, Simon, on the specialty business or REV Group, it sounds like the backdrop for 2026 is good with the extended visibility backlog two years out. I'm just wondering if there's obviously, it's a new acquisition. So to what degree is there conservatism in your forecast for specialty? And if there was, what would that come from? Is it just getting more burning through more backlog? So just sort of your assumptions around there where there would be upside. And then my second question just on Aerials, understanding you can't say that much, but it seems like the backdrop for selling that business is probably better versus when you initially announced it with a view that aerial markets have clearly bottomed, potentially positive upside surprise. So anything you can tell us, is that asset more interesting to people just because it sounds like we should be getting some cyclical tailwinds? Thank you. Yeah. Thanks for the question. So on Specialty Vehicles, yeah, there's obviously a lot going on. The team is working flat out to make sure that we can actually start bringing the backlog down a little bit. So where we see any upside, I mean, the team actually performed really strongly year-over-year, 2025 to 2024. We just want to make sure that we maintain that operational momentum. So I don't know if there's any particular upside I can call out. I'm very comfortable with the guide that we have laid out, and it comes down to execution. On Aerials, yeah, I mean, we've set this in October. We believe it's a well-known asset. We believe it's well-documented how that business performs through the cycle. It's a very strong brand celebrating 60-year anniversary this year at ARA, which we're looking forward to. I can obviously not disclose too much because it's an active process, but yeah, we were very pleased with the inbound interest that we received. We're going to be very deliberate in evaluating the interest and decide on the best approach for our shareholders going forward. And if Jamie, if I could just add, in the new reportable segment of SV, the incremental margin on the higher volume is going to be in that range of 30% as a gauge with the highs in Q2 and Q3 and tapering down into Q4 due to seasonally lower revenue due to the weather. So I think while we have baked in a very strong margin profile that's supporting our $100 million EBITDA margin expansion in the midpoint of our range. Thank you very much. Thank you, Jamie. You're welcome. Your next question comes from the line of David Raso with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Hi. Thank you. First, on the dilution, a little bit less than I think the street was thinking. I took notice the share count seemed to be a little bit lower when you said 111 for the year. Maybe I missed it. Is there some share repo in that number? Just trying to get the math from and I was just doing the basic conversion of the roughly 49.3 million shares that REV Group had. Even the interest expense, a little bit lower than I would have thought. So I'm just trying to understand exactly the dilution being only about $0.25. Hey, David. Good morning. So I think the two parts of your question. The first one, in terms of the 111 million of share count, that's because we only acquired that's a weighted average number and because we only issued them in February. So that equates to 111 million, but full year is that 115 million. I think that's maybe where you're looking at. Second question, in terms of the dilution, yes. In fact, during the merger, we have alluded to the fact that it's going to be a net single digit of EPS dilution given that the share count, the higher share count, cannot be fully offset by the 11 months of REV earnings. So that translates to be about 3% just for share count alone and then 2% based on a higher tax rate. So that's where we are. Oh, that's helpful. Yeah. I read the slide on 12 as the share count 111 was for the full year, not just for the quarter. Okay. That's. Yeah. That's weighted average for the full year. Correct. The one, sorry, the 111 or the 115, just to be clear? The 115. Full year. I'm sorry. 111 is the weighted average for the full year. Okay. The proceeds from an Aerials sale, just curious now that you're a little bit further in the process, you own REV Group, the merger is done. You've obviously been able to move forward with some of the divestiture of a piece of the RV business. Given where the state of the portfolio is, we can debate the right multiple you could get maybe for Aerials. But when you think of the proceeds for that sale, whatever it may be, can you give us a little more clarity how you're thinking about that now? Yeah. So right now, on day one, on day nine of our close, the immediate priority is to strengthen the balance sheet to preserve the flexibility given that we funded this merger through both shares and cash. It's right now still too early to tell depending when we actually find a strategic option for Aerials and where we're trading in terms of the share price. But we will have several options, including a return value to the shareholders through the share buyback. We could do an early debt paydown to strengthen our balance sheet, reduce interest, and further improve our leverage, or we reinvest in our business, especially in Utilities and Specialty Vehicles that's going supported by the secular tailwind. But at this point, I think it's still too early to tell. Yeah. We really like the optionality that is ahead of us here. But our immediate focus, as you will appreciate, is on integrating REV, focusing on execution, focusing on delivering on our earnings, and the cash conversion. And then we really like the optionality that's at the end of the road here. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks, David. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Mircea Dobre with Baird. Please go ahead. Yes. Thank you for taking the question. Good morning. Sticking with Specialty Vehicles here, I guess a couple of questions. First, how are you thinking about the recreational component of this business longer term? You're obviously in portfolio adjustment mode, which is why I'm asking. And when we're kind of thinking about the moving pieces to margin here, if I heard you correctly and better in your guidance, about 12.5% operating margin. How do you view the longer-term potential here if we're thinking two to three years out? Yeah. Thanks, Mircea. I'll take the first one, and Jen, maybe you can weigh in on the second question. So on the RV business, yeah, first of all, the announcement that was sent out yesterday on Midwest, that process was already ongoing before we closed the merger. So don't read too much into that, that we are in portfolio adjustment mode. I would actually say we are in integration mode. We are much more focused on what's right in front of us, and that is making sure that we integrate the two companies, that we build our synergy pipeline, that we focus on execution of the four segments that we now own. And that's really our most immediate focus. And now, going into 2027 or beyond, I can't say we won't continue to make some adjustments to our portfolio, but what's right in front of us is integrating REV and executing. You want to take the margin question? And Mircea, I think your question on the EBITDA for 12.5%, you're referencing to the new reportable SV segment, and that is without Midwest and Lance, and that was last year on a pro forma basis, 11 months. As you know, you're very familiar with REV. They have publicly disclosed a 2027 target at the enterprise level ranging for that 280 basis point margin improvement from 2025 to 2027. And at this point, we see that they're at the top end of the range and heading towards that direction. So I think for modeling purposes, you could do model that out over the next two years. But they are in line with what they have communicated in their last December 2024 investor day, but at the top end of the range. That's helpful. Thank you. Lastly, you gave us some context on tariffs, which is good. But I'm wondering more broadly from a price-cost standpoint, how are you thinking about 2026 and what's embedded in here? Steel has gone up quite a bit of late, and maybe you can comment on any hedges or the cadence of price-cost as the year progresses. Right. So in terms of steel, we do not import raw steel, and 70% of what we use is in HRC. You're right, Mircea that the steel price has increased as expected as vendors try to sell from the U.S. We will continue to monitor that closely and execute our hedging contracts. So right now, we have our Q1s and Q2s of our HRC steel consumption hedge at a favorable rate of 10%-15% lower than the forward price. And any of the imported steel on fabricated parts is already part of our $130 million of tariffs that we've baked into our guide of $4.50-$5. And that includes REV. Thank you. You're welcome. Your next question comes from the line of Avi Jaroslawicz with UBS. Please go ahead. Hey. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. So in terms of the capacity increases within Environmental Solutions, how much are you expanding capacity? When are you expecting those to come online? How's that split between two businesses in the segment? Just any kind of color if you can give there? Yeah. We're expanding capacity in our Utilities business, not in ESG per se. We're ramping up our facility in Waukesha, Wisconsin, and we're adding about 20%-30% capacity over the next two years. And some of that, roughly half of that will maybe slightly less than half of that will come online in 2026. And sorry, I forgot. What was the second part of your question? Yeah. It was really how is it split and what is the overall capacity increase that you're thinking of? Yeah. So Utilities is the smaller segment within Environmental Solutions, and we're adding about 20%-30% over the next two years in Utilities. And the reason we feel that that's a justified investment is because I mentioned in my prepared remarks that we expect CapEx to grow 8%-15% for the next five years in Utilities just by the nature of upgrading the grid. And obviously, we sell and make products that will help upgrade the grid. So we expect that that market will be quite bullish for us for the next three to five years. Makes sense. And then I guess in a second, I think you had said last year that you were looking at about $25 million of synergies from Environmental Solutions by the end of 2026. So just kind of curious where you are on that progress and if that $25 million+ number is still how you're thinking about it for the exit rate for this year. Yes. Hi. Good morning. Yes. We actually exited our first year of integrations above that $25 million of run-rate synergies. That's the reason why that even with the higher Utilities growth in 2026, that cost and unfavorable makes in terms of the margin, we're still able to hold the margin percentage due to the synergies dropping into 2026 within the Environmental Solutions segment. All right. Got it. Great. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks. Your next question comes from the line of Kyle Menges with Citigroup. Please go ahead. Great. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on closing the REVG deal. I did want to just double-click on the ESG guidance a little bit. I mean, talking about flat guide, and I was thinking maybe that would imply that the OE sales portion of that could be down a little bit this year. So I'm curious just what should give investors confidence that this might just be a blip here in 2026 versus maybe the first year of a softening of this refuse recycling cycle? Yeah. Just so we're aligned here, we're guiding mid-single-digit growth for Environmental Solutions as a whole. And then ESG within that environmental solution, we're guiding flat for 2026, excluding potential pre-buys in the second half of 2026 that would be upside to the guide. So yeah, we see that end market as fairly non-cyclical. We actually see continued growth going into 2030. The only reason we see ESG within Environmental Solutions kind of slowing down the growth rate a little bit is just because we're caught up on lead times. We're now back to largely being a book-to-bill business, which is where we were before COVID. So we don't take that as a leading indicator that the business might be peaking. It's quite the contrary. We think that that business has a lot of upside and for more reasons than just GDP growth. There's also fleet modernization going on. There is all sorts of new technology going into that space. So we see multiple angles for growth in that segment. Great. Then just a couple of questions on Aerials. Sounds like you're planning some pricing for 2026. Just would be good to hear how those negotiations have gone as you're entering 2026 with the customers. Then just a quick one, just anything to call out in your mix in 2026 versus 2025 as far as nationals versus independents? Thank you. Yeah. So for 2026, we continue to see most demand coming from replacement in North America and in Europe, and mostly from the mega projects. We did not bake in any kind of meaningful recovery in local private construction spend in 2026. We see that more happening in 2027. Fleet utilization is up year-over-year. Our national customers are quite bullish for the next couple of years because of the mega projects alone. But the real uplift for this segment will come when local and private construction comes back up. And we see that happening in 2027 and not in 2026. So that's why the guide is kind of a little bit of moving sideways here because of the private construction spend not picking up until 2027. Thank you. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Thanks. Good morning. Morning. Simon, on slide four in the emergency vehicle section, there's a note that says there's a mandated replacement cycle. What category of vehicles is that, and what percentage of the fleet turns over annually because of mandates? That's a good catch. I think that it's every 10 years. I think you're talking refuse. Does emergency vehicles? Emergency vehicles. Let me just look that up on slide four in the footnotes. Let me get back there. Yeah. Emergency vehicles, so the leftmost box, the second bullet, large installed base with a consistent and mandated replacement cycle? Oh, oh, I'm sorry. I got you now. I was looking in the footnotes. You're talking on the slide. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So obviously, fleet needs to stay fresh, and there is a mandated replacement cycle. There's not a real number tied to it per se, but yeah, within emergency vehicles, municipalities want to keep their fleet with the maximum uptime possible, and that's why they have specific kind of goals and targets around their replacement cycle. That's what that means. Okay. And I know it's really early in owning REV, but you are maintaining leadership there. So my question is, just given the size of the backlog and where lead times in the industry are, do you see a path to accelerating production which can result in a higher growth rate, maybe not this year, but as you look into 2027 and 2028? Yeah. I mean, the industry is obviously investing in adding capacity and optimizing throughput as it should because backlogs need to come down. I mean, they're at two years+. Bookings continue to be strong. And so just to make sure that we, as an industry, keep working on bringing our backlogs down, we're investing in capacity, and so are we. Our main location in Florida and our location in South Dakota, we're investing in capacity expansions and capacity upgrades. And so we think that kind of the sustainable target for backlog coverage is about a year, but it might take another two years or so before we get to that kind of backlog level. But yeah, bringing down the backlog is what the focus is right now, and that will lead to a year-over-year growth. Yeah. So, right. So is it possible that business could grow in double digits, assuming orders hold up and the backlog coverage is there, while you try and bring those lead times down? And again, not this year necessarily, but at some point. Yeah. For now, we are already ahead of Specialty Vehicles as a segment is already ahead of their Investor Day kind of commitment. And so we don't want to count ourselves too rich here. We're guiding high single digits, and we think that that's probably a more realistic outlook, and that's what we're guiding today. Understood. Thanks. Yeah. Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'll now turn the call back over to Simon Meester for closing remarks. Thank you, operator. If you have any additional questions, please follow up with Jen or Derek. And with that, thank you for your interest in Terex. Operator, please disconnect the call. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.
Speaker 10: Thank you. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Derek Everitt, Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you. thank you As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. as a reminder this conference is being recorded It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Derek Everitt, Vice President, Investor Relations. it is now my pleasure to introduce your host derek everitt vice president investor relations
Speaker 4: Good morning and welcome to the Terex Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. A copy of the press release and presentation slides are posted on our Investor Relations website at investors.terex.com. In addition, the replay and slide presentation will be available on our website. We are joined today by Simon Meester, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Jennifer Kong, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Their prepared remarks will be followed by a Q&A. Please turn to slide two of the presentation, which reflects our Safe Harbor statement. Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements which are subject to the risks that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied. These risks are described in greater detail in the earnings materials and in our reports filed with the SEC. Good morning and welcome to the Terex Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. good morning and welcome to the terex fourth quarter 2025 earnings conference call A copy of the press release and presentation slides are posted on our Investor Relations website at investors.terex.com. a copy of the press release and presentation slides are posted on our investor relations website at investors.terex.com In addition, the replay and slide presentation will be available on our website. in addition the replay and slide presentation will be available on our website We are joined today by Simon Meester, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Jennifer Kong, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. we are joined today by simon meester president and chief executive officer and jennifer kong senior vice president and chief financial officer Their prepared remarks will be followed by a Q&A. their prepared remarks will be followed by a q&a Please turn to slide two of the presentation, which reflects our Safe Harbor statement. please turn to slide two of the presentation which reflects our safe harbor statement Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements which are subject to the risks that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied. today's conference call contains forward-looking statements which are subject to the risks that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied These risks are described in greater detail in the earnings materials and in our reports filed with the SEC. these risks are described in greater detail in the earnings materials and in our reports filed with the sec On this call, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial information, including adjusted figures that we believe are useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. Reconciliations for these non-GAAP measures can be found in the conference call materials. Please turn to slide three. I'll hand it over to Simon Meester. On this call, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial information, including adjusted figures that we believe are useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. on this call we will be discussing non-gaap financial information including adjusted figures that we believe are useful in evaluating the company's operating performance Reconciliations for these non-GAAP measures can be found in the conference call materials. reconciliations for these non-gaap measures can be found in the conference call materials Please turn to slide three. please turn to slide three I'll hand it over to Simon Meester. i'll hand it over to simon meester
Speaker 11: Thanks, Derek, and good morning. I would like to welcome everyone to our earnings call and appreciate your interest in Terex. Last week, we concluded our merger with REV Group, a defining milestone in Terex's transformation. With this combination, we've created a leading specialty equipment manufacturer with premium brands across multiple industries, with a strong manufacturing footprint, a leading technology play, and clear tangible synergies across the portfolio. What began with our 2024 acquisition of ESG, which delivered value immediately, is now being amplified by bringing Terex and REV together, creating greater scale and an even more resilient new company. REV generated approximately $2.5 billion of revenue and $230 million of Adjusted EBITDA in its recently completed fiscal year, with the majority coming from essential low-cyclical end markets. Thanks, Derek, and good morning. thanks derek and good morning I would like to welcome everyone to our earnings call and appreciate your interest in Terex. i would like to welcome everyone to our earnings call and appreciate your interest in terex Last week, we concluded our merger with REV Group, a defining milestone in Terex's transformation. last week we concluded our merger with rev group a defining milestone in terex's transformation With this combination, we've created a leading specialty equipment manufacturer with premium brands across multiple industries, with a strong manufacturing footprint, a leading technology play, and clear tangible synergies across the portfolio. with this combination we've created a leading specialty equipment manufacturer with premium brands across multiple industries with a strong manufacturing footprint a leading technology play and clear tangible synergies across the portfolio What began with our 2024 acquisition of ESG, which delivered value immediately, is now being amplified by bringing Terex and REV together, creating greater scale and an even more resilient new company. what began with our 2024 acquisition of esg which delivered value immediately is now being amplified by bringing terex and rev together creating greater scale and an even more resilient new company REV generated approximately $2.5 billion of revenue and $230 million of Adjusted EBITDA in its recently completed fiscal year, with the majority coming from essential low-cyclical end markets. rev generated approximately $2.5 billion of revenue and $230 million of adjusted ebitda in its recently completed fiscal year with the majority coming from essential low-cyclical end markets Beyond strengthening the predictability of our growing earnings and free cash flow, the merger also reduces our overall capital intensity, giving us greater flexibility to create additional shareholder value. I want to thank both the Terex and REV teams for their tireless efforts to close this transaction ahead of schedule. It's only been a few days since closing, but the teams are already working hand in hand to execute our integration and synergy plans. We completed the ESG integration in Q3 of 2025 and captured synergies ahead of expectations. We're using the same integration playbook for the merger with REV. The integration will be straightforward. REV's businesses are joining Terex as a standalone operating segment with no organizational changes outside our corporate functions. Beyond strengthening the predictability of our growing earnings and free cash flow, the merger also reduces our overall capital intensity, giving us greater flexibility to create additional shareholder value. beyond strengthening the predictability of our growing earnings and free cash flow the merger also reduces our overall capital intensity giving us greater flexibility to create additional shareholder value I want to thank both the Terex and REV teams for their tireless efforts to close this transaction ahead of schedule. i want to thank both the terex and rev teams for their tireless efforts to close this transaction ahead of schedule It's only been a few days since closing, but the teams are already working hand in hand to execute our integration and synergy plans. it's only been a few days since closing but the teams are already working hand in hand to execute our integration and synergy plans We completed the ESG integration in Q3 of 2025 and captured synergies ahead of expectations. we completed the esg integration in q3 of 2025 and captured synergies ahead of expectations We're using the same integration playbook for the merger with REV. we're using the same integration playbook for the merger with rev The integration will be straightforward. the integration will be straightforward REV's businesses are joining Terex as a standalone operating segment with no organizational changes outside our corporate functions. rev's businesses are joining terex as a standalone operating segment with no organizational changes outside our corporate functions Our new specialty vehicle segment will include emergency vehicles and will continue to be led by Mike Virnig, and recreational vehicles, which will continue to be led by Gary Gunter. Both Mike and Gary bring deep REV experience, assuring continuity while driving further improvements. We expect to deliver roughly $37.5 million of the $75 million run rate synergies within the next 12 months and the full amount by 2028. Most early savings will come from eliminating duplicate corporate costs, but the synergy potential goes much deeper. Over the last 16 months, we have reshaped the Terex portfolio, creating what I believe is the most intrinsically synergistic, resilient, and competitive portfolio in our history. We now have significant scale in Specialty Vehicles that share similar operational and go-to-market characteristics. This creates not only near-term efficiencies but also meaningful opportunities for operational improvement and long-term growth across Terex. Our new specialty vehicle segment will include emergency vehicles and will continue to be led by Mike Virnig, and recreational vehicles, which will continue to be led by Gary Gunter. our new specialty vehicle segment will include emergency vehicles and will continue to be led by mike virnig and recreational vehicles which will continue to be led by gary gunter Both Mike and Gary bring deep REV experience, assuring continuity while driving further improvements. both mike and gary bring deep rev experience assuring continuity while driving further improvements We expect to deliver roughly $37.5 million of the $75 million run rate synergies within the next 12 months and the full amount by 2028. we expect to deliver roughly $37.5 million of the $75 million run rate synergies within the next 12 months and the full amount by 2028 Most early savings will come from eliminating duplicate corporate costs, but the synergy potential goes much deeper. most early savings will come from eliminating duplicate corporate costs but the synergy potential goes much deeper Over the last 16 months, we have reshaped the Terex portfolio, creating what I believe is the most intrinsically synergistic, resilient, and competitive portfolio in our history. over the last 16 months we have reshaped the terex portfolio creating what i believe is the most intrinsically synergistic resilient and competitive portfolio in our history We now have significant scale in Specialty Vehicles that share similar operational and go-to-market characteristics. we now have significant scale in specialty vehicles that share similar operational and go-to-market characteristics This creates not only near-term efficiencies but also meaningful opportunities for operational improvement and long-term growth across Terex. this creates not only near-term efficiencies but also meaningful opportunities for operational improvement and long-term growth across terex With regards to the strategic review of the Aerials business, which we announced during our last call, we have been receiving strong inbound interest from a number of interested parties. We're being deliberate in our evaluation of the interest and the best approach to maximize shareholder value. Turning to slide four. Combining with REV significantly shifts our end market exposure. We now serve a large, diverse, addressable market with stable, attractive growth profiles. Customers across these verticals value lifecycle services, creating sizable opportunities to expand our aftermarket and digital offerings. Emergency vehicles benefit from stable and growing municipal budgets tied to maintaining required response times among the growing population. In waste and recycling, growth is fueled by population and recycling trends coupled with ongoing fleet replacement. Customers also accelerate upgrades to unlock the value of new vehicle innovations and digital solutions, where we are the clear industry leader. With regards to the strategic review of the Aerials business, which we announced during our last call, we have been receiving strong inbound interest from a number of interested parties. with regards to the strategic review of the aerials business which we announced during our last call we have been receiving strong inbound interest from a number of interested parties We're being deliberate in our evaluation of the interest and the best approach to maximize shareholder value. we're being deliberate in our evaluation of the interest and the best approach to maximize shareholder value Turning to slide four. turning to slide four Combining with REV significantly shifts our end market exposure. combining with rev significantly shifts our end market exposure We now serve a large, diverse, addressable market with stable, attractive growth profiles. we now serve a large diverse addressable market with stable attractive growth profiles Customers across these verticals value lifecycle services, creating sizable opportunities to expand our aftermarket and digital offerings. customers across these verticals value lifecycle services creating sizable opportunities to expand our aftermarket and digital offerings Emergency vehicles benefit from stable and growing municipal budgets tied to maintaining required response times among the growing population. emergency vehicles benefit from stable and growing municipal budgets tied to maintaining required response times among the growing population In waste and recycling, growth is fueled by population and recycling trends coupled with ongoing fleet replacement. in waste and recycling growth is fueled by population and recycling trends coupled with ongoing fleet replacement Customers also accelerate upgrades to unlock the value of new vehicle innovations and digital solutions, where we are the clear industry leader. customers also accelerate upgrades to unlock the value of new vehicle innovations and digital solutions where we are the clear industry leader Utilities are poised for strong growth from 2026 onward as demand on the U.S. electrical grid increases, particularly from data center expansion. Industry forecasts call for 8%-15% annual CapEx growth through 2030. Altogether, we now have multiple channels into nearly every municipality in the United States, which collectively spend $200 billion per year on capital equipment. A tremendous long-term opportunity. In construction, we continue to see robust infrastructure activities supported by government funding. The pipeline of megaprojects continues to expand, providing a tailwind through at least 2030. We're seeing momentum building in Europe, and strong growth continues in the Middle East and India, where MP already has a solid foundation. Let's move to a summary of our financial results on slide five before handing it over to Jen to go into more detail. Utilities are poised for strong growth from 2026 onward as demand on the U.S. electrical grid increases, particularly from data center expansion. utilities are poised for strong growth from 2026 onward as demand on the u.s electrical grid increases particularly from data center expansion Industry forecasts call for 8%-15% annual CapEx growth through 2030. industry forecasts call for 8%-15% annual capex growth through 2030 Altogether, we now have multiple channels into nearly every municipality in the United States, which collectively spend $200 billion per year on capital equipment. altogether we now have multiple channels into nearly every municipality in the united states which collectively spend $200 billion per year on capital equipment A tremendous long-term opportunity. a tremendous long-term opportunity In construction, we continue to see robust infrastructure activities supported by government funding. in construction we continue to see robust infrastructure activities supported by government funding The pipeline of megaprojects continues to expand, providing a tailwind through at least 2030. the pipeline of megaprojects continues to expand providing a tailwind through at least 2030 We're seeing momentum building in Europe, and strong growth continues in the Middle East and India, where MP already has a solid foundation. we're seeing momentum building in europe and strong growth continues in the middle east and india where mp already has a solid foundation Let's move to a summary of our financial results on slide five before handing it over to Jen to go into more detail. let's move to a summary of our financial results on slide five before handing it over to jen to go into more detail I'm proud of our team for delivering on our 2025 expectations, navigating numerous challenges throughout the year. Their performance and the strength of our portfolio enabled us to deliver earnings per share of $4.93, consistent with our outlook, EBITDA of $635 million or 11.7%, free cash flow of $325 million, and a cash conversion of 147%, all in line with our expectations. Looking to 2026, we see positive momentum across most of our segments to varying degrees. Environmental Solutions bookings grew 16% year-over-year in Q4, led by Utilities. MP achieved its highest margins of the year in Q4 as efficiency and tariff mitigation initiatives took hold, and bookings accelerated, particularly in aggregates and material handling. I'm proud of our team for delivering on our 2025 expectations, navigating numerous challenges throughout the year. i'm proud of our team for delivering on our 2025 expectations navigating numerous challenges throughout the year Their performance and the strength of our portfolio enabled us to deliver earnings per share of $4.93, consistent with our outlook, EBITDA of $635 million or 11.7%, free cash flow of $325 million, and a cash conversion of 147%, all in line with our expectations. their performance and the strength of our portfolio enabled us to deliver earnings per share of $4.93 consistent with our outlook ebitda of $635 million or 11.7% free cash flow of $325 million and a cash conversion of 147% all in line with our expectations Looking to 2026, we see positive momentum across most of our segments to varying degrees. looking to 2026 we see positive momentum across most of our segments to varying degrees Environmental Solutions bookings grew 16% year-over-year in Q4, led by Utilities. environmental solutions bookings grew 16% year-over-year in q4 led by utilities MP achieved its highest margins of the year in Q4 as efficiency and tariff mitigation initiatives took hold, and bookings accelerated, particularly in aggregates and material handling. mp achieved its highest margins of the year in q4 as efficiency and tariff mitigation initiatives took hold and bookings accelerated particularly in aggregates and material handling Aerials secured nearly $1 billion of new orders in Q4, up 46% from the prior year, and Specialty Vehicles recorded strong bookings the last three months with a roughly two-year backlog coverage coupled with strong momentum on margin expansion. This positions Terex for a strong 2026. With that, I will turn it over to Jen. Aerials secured nearly $1 billion of new orders in Q4, up 46% from the prior year, and Specialty Vehicles recorded strong bookings the last three months with a roughly two-year backlog coverage coupled with strong momentum on margin expansion. aerials secured nearly $1 billion of new orders in q4 up 46% from the prior year and specialty vehicles recorded strong bookings the last three months with a roughly two-year backlog coverage coupled with strong momentum on margin expansion This positions Terex for a strong 2026. this positions terex for a strong 2026 With that, I will turn it over to Jen. with that i will turn it over to jen
Speaker 6: Thank you, Simon, and good morning, everyone. Let's look at our Q4 results and slide six. Our fourth quarter financial performance was largely in line with our expectations. Environmental Solutions continue to grow and deliver consistently strong margins. Materials Processing achieved its highest operating margin of the year, and Aerial sales grew year-over-year in the quarter following four quarters of decline. Total net sales of $1.3 billion grew 6% year-over-year. Excluding ESG, our legacy sales grew by 5%. Q4 operating margin was 9.3%, up 150 basis points versus the prior year due to improved performance in all three segments. Interest and other expenses of $43 million was $4 million higher than Q4 last year. The fourth quarter effective tax rate was 8.1%, driven by favorable one-time tax attributes. EPS for the quarter was $1.12, or $0.35 higher than last year. Thank you, Simon, and good morning, everyone. thank you simon and good morning everyone Let's look at our Q4 results and slide six. let's look at our q4 results and slide six Our fourth quarter financial performance was largely in line with our expectations. our fourth quarter financial performance was largely in line with our expectations Environmental Solutions continue to grow and deliver consistently strong margins. environmental solutions continue to grow and deliver consistently strong margins Materials Processing achieved its highest operating margin of the year, and Aerial sales grew year-over-year in the quarter following four quarters of decline. materials processing achieved its highest operating margin of the year and aerial sales grew year-over-year in the quarter following four quarters of decline Total net sales of $1.3 billion grew 6% year-over-year. total net sales of $1.3 billion grew 6% year-over-year Excluding ESG, our legacy sales grew by 5%. excluding esg our legacy sales grew by 5% Q4 operating margin was 9.3%, up 150 basis points versus the prior year due to improved performance in all three segments. q4 operating margin was 9.3% up 150 basis points versus the prior year due to improved performance in all three segments Interest and other expenses of $43 million was $4 million higher than Q4 last year. interest and other expenses of $43 million was $4 million higher than q4 last year The fourth quarter effective tax rate was 8.1%, driven by favorable one-time tax attributes. the fourth quarter effective tax rate was 8.1% driven by favorable one-time tax attributes EPS for the quarter was $1.12, or $0.35 higher than last year. eps for the quarter was $1.12 or $0.35 higher than last year EBITDA was $141 million, or 10.6% of sales, 140 basis points better than last year. We generated $172 million of free cash flow in Q4, which was $43 million greater than last year due to higher operating income and improved working capital performance. Let's turn to slide seven for our full year results. Net sales grew 6% to $5.4 billion at the full year contribution from ESG acquisition, more than offset declines in Aerials and MP. Legacy sales declined 11%. Operating margin of 10.4% was 90 basis points lower than 2024 due to lower volumes in Aerials and MP, and higher tariff costs, which mainly impacted Aerials. This was partially offset by improved margins in Terex Utilities and the accretive addition of ESG. Interest and other expenses of $172 million increased by $89 million due to financing costs associated with acquiring ESG. EBITDA was $141 million, or 10.6% of sales, 140 basis points better than last year. ebitda was $141 million or 10.6% of sales 140 basis points better than last year We generated $172 million of free cash flow in Q4, which was $43 million greater than last year due to higher operating income and improved working capital performance. we generated $172 million of free cash flow in q4 which was $43 million greater than last year due to higher operating income and improved working capital performance Let's turn to slide seven for our full year results. let's turn to slide seven for our full year results Net sales grew 6% to $5.4 billion at the full year contribution from ESG acquisition, more than offset declines in Aerials and MP. net sales grew 6% to $5.4 billion at the full year contribution from esg acquisition more than offset declines in aerials and mp Legacy sales declined 11%. legacy sales declined 11% Operating margin of 10.4% was 90 basis points lower than 2024 due to lower volumes in Aerials and MP, and higher tariff costs, which mainly impacted Aerials. operating margin of 10.4% was 90 basis points lower than 2024 due to lower volumes in aerials and mp and higher tariff costs which mainly impacted aerials This was partially offset by improved margins in Terex Utilities and the accretive addition of ESG. this was partially offset by improved margins in terex utilities and the accretive addition of esg Interest and other expenses of $172 million increased by $89 million due to financing costs associated with acquiring ESG. interest and other expenses of $172 million increased by $89 million due to financing costs associated with acquiring esg Our full year effective tax rate of 17.2% was consistent with last year as favorable one-time tax attributes from the Queensland voucher offset higher USD income. Earnings per share of $4.93 was consistent with the outlook we provided for the entire year. We improved our full year free cash flow by 71% to $325 million, representing a conversion rate of 147%. Despite volume and tariff headwinds throughout the year, our teams continued to execute working capital improvement plans and delivered on our full year free cash flow expectations. ESG's incremental cash flow more than offset the interest expense associated with the financing. We continue to improve our operating cash flow and working capital efficiency, giving us more options to return value to shareholders. Please turn to slide eight to review our segment results, starting with Environmental Solutions. Our full year effective tax rate of 17.2% was consistent with last year as favorable one-time tax attributes from the Queensland voucher offset higher USD income. our full year effective tax rate of 17.2% was consistent with last year as favorable one-time tax attributes from the queensland voucher offset higher usd income Earnings per share of $4.93 was consistent with the outlook we provided for the entire year. earnings per share of $4.93 was consistent with the outlook we provided for the entire year We improved our full year free cash flow by 71% to $325 million, representing a conversion rate of 147%. we improved our full year free cash flow by 71% to $325 million representing a conversion rate of 147% Despite volume and tariff headwinds throughout the year, our teams continued to execute working capital improvement plans and delivered on our full year free cash flow expectations. despite volume and tariff headwinds throughout the year our teams continued to execute working capital improvement plans and delivered on our full year free cash flow expectations ESG's incremental cash flow more than offset the interest expense associated with the financing. esg's incremental cash flow more than offset the interest expense associated with the financing We continue to improve our operating cash flow and working capital efficiency, giving us more options to return value to shareholders. we continue to improve our operating cash flow and working capital efficiency giving us more options to return value to shareholders Please turn to slide eight to review our segment results, starting with Environmental Solutions. please turn to slide eight to review our segment results starting with environmental solutions Our ES segment finished 2025 with another excellent quarter, generating $428 million of sales, representing 14.1% year-over-year growth on a pro forma basis. The strong growth was driven by improved throughput and delivery of utility and refuse trucks. For the full year, sales increased 12.7% on a pro forma basis to $1.7 billion. Q4 operating margins of 18.5% were 90 basis points better than the prior year, driven by improved performance in Utilities, while ESG margins were consistent with the prior year. On a full year basis, the segment achieved 18.8% operating margin, 220 basis points better than the pro forma 2024 results, driven by improvements in both businesses. I was very pleased with the ES segment performance in 2025, particularly the high degree of collaboration between the ESG and utility teams, executing synergies and operational improvements that will benefit Terex going forward. Our ES segment finished 2025 with another excellent quarter, generating $428 million of sales, representing 14.1% year-over-year growth on a pro forma basis. our es segment finished 2025 with another excellent quarter generating $428 million of sales representing 14.1% year-over-year growth on a pro forma basis The strong growth was driven by improved throughput and delivery of utility and refuse trucks. the strong growth was driven by improved throughput and delivery of utility and refuse trucks For the full year, sales increased 12.7% on a pro forma basis to $1.7 billion. for the full year sales increased 12.7% on a pro forma basis to $1.7 billion Q4 operating margins of 18.5% were 90 basis points better than the prior year, driven by improved performance in Utilities, while ESG margins were consistent with the prior year. q4 operating margins of 18.5% were 90 basis points better than the prior year driven by improved performance in utilities while esg margins were consistent with the prior year On a full year basis, the segment achieved 18.8% operating margin, 220 basis points better than the pro forma 2024 results, driven by improvements in both businesses. on a full year basis the segment achieved 18.8% operating margin 220 basis points better than the pro forma 2024 results driven by improvements in both businesses I was very pleased with the ES segment performance in 2025, particularly the high degree of collaboration between the ESG and utility teams, executing synergies and operational improvements that will benefit Terex going forward. i was very pleased with the es segment performance in 2025 particularly the high degree of collaboration between the esg and utility teams executing synergies and operational improvements that will benefit terex going forward Turning to slide nine. MP fourth-quarter sales of $428 million were 2.5% lower than last year. Excluding the divested Queen businesses, MP sales increased by 2.8% in Q4 on a like-for-like basis. Growth in aggregates was the primary driver as sales grew in every global region, with the strongest growth coming from Europe. On a full-year basis, sales of $1.7 billion were 11.6% lower than 2024, mainly due to channel adjustments we experienced in the first half of the year. MP operating margins continued to improve, reaching 13.7% in the quarter as efficiency improvements and pricing actions ramped up in the quarter. The positive margin trajectory and increased bookings set MP well, heading into 2026. Please turn to slide 10. Aerials closed out 2025 on a positive note with year-over-year sales growth of 6.9%, including growth in North America and EMEA. Turning to slide nine. turning to slide nine MP fourth-quarter sales of $428 million were 2.5% lower than last year. mp fourth-quarter sales of $428 million were 2.5% lower than last year Excluding the divested Queen businesses, MP sales increased by 2.8% in Q4 on a like-for-like basis. excluding the divested queen businesses mp sales increased by 2.8% in q4 on a like-for-like basis Growth in aggregates was the primary driver as sales grew in every global region, with the strongest growth coming from Europe. growth in aggregates was the primary driver as sales grew in every global region with the strongest growth coming from europe On a full-year basis, sales of $1.7 billion were 11.6% lower than 2024, mainly due to channel adjustments we experienced in the first half of the year. on a full-year basis sales of $1.7 billion were 11.6% lower than 2024 mainly due to channel adjustments we experienced in the first half of the year MP operating margins continued to improve, reaching 13.7% in the quarter as efficiency improvements and pricing actions ramped up in the quarter. mp operating margins continued to improve reaching 13.7% in the quarter as efficiency improvements and pricing actions ramped up in the quarter The positive margin trajectory and increased bookings set MP well, heading into 2026. the positive margin trajectory and increased bookings set mp well heading into 2026 Please turn to slide 10. please turn to slide 10 Aerials closed out 2025 on a positive note with year-over-year sales growth of 6.9%, including growth in North America and EMEA. aerials closed out 2025 on a positive note with year-over-year sales growth of 6.9% including growth in north america and emea Aerials Q4 operating margins of 2.6% was consistent with our expectations, 200 basis points better than prior. Tariff headwinds, including the expanded 232 tariff that was implemented in August, could not be fully mitigated in the period as ongoing supply chains and cost reduction actions will continue in 2026. Please turn to slide 11. Q4 bookings of $1.9 billion grew 32% compared to last year on a pro forma basis, with positive trends across our segment. In Environmental Solutions, we continue to see positive momentum in bookings, which grew 16% year-over-year, up 13% on a trailing 12-month basis, led by strong demand for utility vehicles. A healthy backlog of $1.1 billion provides strong forward visibility for the segment heading into 2026. MP bookings increased 24% year-over-year, or 32% when you exclude the divested Queensland business. Aerials Q4 operating margins of 2.6% was consistent with our expectations, 200 basis points better than prior. aerials q4 operating margins of 2.6% was consistent with our expectations 200 basis points better than prior Tariff headwinds, including the expanded 232 tariff that was implemented in August, could not be fully mitigated in the period as ongoing supply chains and cost reduction actions will continue in 2026. tariff headwinds including the expanded 232 tariff that was implemented in august could not be fully mitigated in the period as ongoing supply chains and cost reduction actions will continue in 2026 Please turn to slide 11. please turn to slide 11 Q4 bookings of $1.9 billion grew 32% compared to last year on a pro forma basis, with positive trends across our segment. q4 bookings of $1.9 billion grew 32% compared to last year on a pro forma basis with positive trends across our segment In Environmental Solutions, we continue to see positive momentum in bookings, which grew 16% year-over-year, up 13% on a trailing 12-month basis, led by strong demand for utility vehicles. in environmental solutions we continue to see positive momentum in bookings which grew 16% year-over-year up 13% on a trailing 12-month basis led by strong demand for utility vehicles A healthy backlog of $1.1 billion provides strong forward visibility for the segment heading into 2026. a healthy backlog of $1.1 billion provides strong forward visibility for the segment heading into 2026 MP bookings increased 24% year-over-year, or 32% when you exclude the divested Queensland business. mp bookings increased 24% year-over-year or 32% when you exclude the divested queensland business The growth was led by aggregates and material handling, more than offsetting some moderation in concrete. MP ended 2025 with $71 million more backlog than the prior year, or $100 million higher when you adjust out the divested Queensland businesses from 2024. Finally, Aerials bookings of $971 million was up 46% compared to the prior year, driven by replacement demand from our national customers. While growth was strongest in North America, we also saw growth in EMEA and Asia Pacific, providing good visibility into 2026. Now, turn to slide 12 for our 2026 outlook. We are operating in a complex environment with many macroeconomic variables and geopolitical uncertainties, and results could change negatively or positively. The outlook we are providing today reflects our current portfolio and does not account for any cost to achieve the synergies, purchase accounting adjustments, nor other non-recurring items. The growth was led by aggregates and material handling, more than offsetting some moderation in concrete. the growth was led by aggregates and material handling more than offsetting some moderation in concrete MP ended 2025 with $71 million more backlog than the prior year, or $100 million higher when you adjust out the divested Queensland businesses from 2024. mp ended 2025 with $71 million more backlog than the prior year or $100 million higher when you adjust out the divested queensland businesses from 2024 Finally, Aerials bookings of $971 million was up 46% compared to the prior year, driven by replacement demand from our national customers. finally aerials bookings of $971 million was up 46% compared to the prior year driven by replacement demand from our national customers While growth was strongest in North America, we also saw growth in EMEA and Asia Pacific, providing good visibility into 2026. while growth was strongest in north america we also saw growth in emea and asia pacific providing good visibility into 2026 Now, turn to slide 12 for our 2026 outlook. now turn to slide 12 for our 2026 outlook We are operating in a complex environment with many macroeconomic variables and geopolitical uncertainties, and results could change negatively or positively. we are operating in a complex environment with many macroeconomic variables and geopolitical uncertainties and results could change negatively or positively The outlook we are providing today reflects our current portfolio and does not account for any cost to achieve the synergies, purchase accounting adjustments, nor other non-recurring items. the outlook we are providing today reflects our current portfolio and does not account for any cost to achieve the synergies purchase accounting adjustments nor other non-recurring items Following the close of REV transaction last week, our 2026 outlook reflects the newly combined companies, including 11 months of REV, with positive momentum from strong Q4 bookings and backlog in every segment. We expect 2026 sales to grow approximately 5% on a pro forma basis to $7.5-$8.1 billion. We further expect pro forma EBITDA to grow by approximately $100 million, or 12% year-over-year, to between $930 million and $1 billion, or 12.4% EBITDA margin at the midpoint. Our EBITDA outlook includes approximately $28 million of synergies for 2026, in line with our goal to achieve $75 million of run rate synergies within two years. We anticipate interest and other expenses to be approximately $190 million, consistent with pro forma 2025, based on average debt outstanding of about $2.7 billion. Following the close of REV transaction last week, our 2026 outlook reflects the newly combined companies, including 11 months of REV, with positive momentum from strong Q4 bookings and backlog in every segment. following the close of rev transaction last week our 2026 outlook reflects the newly combined companies including 11 months of rev with positive momentum from strong q4 bookings and backlog in every segment We expect 2026 sales to grow approximately 5% on a pro forma basis to $7.5-$8.1 billion. we expect 2026 sales to grow approximately 5% on a pro forma basis to $7.5-$8.1 billion We further expect pro forma EBITDA to grow by approximately $100 million, or 12% year-over-year, to between $930 million and $1 billion, or 12.4% EBITDA margin at the mid point. we further expect pro forma ebitda to grow by approximately $100 million or 12% year-over-year to between $930 million and $1 billion or 12.4% ebitda margin at the mid point Our EBITDA outlook includes approximately $28 million of synergies for 2026, in line with our goal to achieve $75 million of run rate synergies within two years. our ebitda outlook includes approximately $28 million of synergies for 2026 in line with our goal to achieve $75 million of run rate synergies within two years We anticipate interest and other expenses to be approximately $190 million, consistent with pro forma 2025, based on average debt outstanding of about $2.7 billion. we anticipate interest and other expenses to be approximately $190 million consistent with pro forma 2025 based on average debt outstanding of about $2.7 billion The effective tax rate is expected to be higher at 21%, driven by higher USD income. As expected, the merger has a modest 3% diluted effect on EPS in 2026 due to higher number of shares outstanding post-merger. We expect 2026 EPS between $4.50-$5, with a share account of 111 million shares, as compared to a legacy Terex range of $4.80-$5.20. For modeling purposes, approximately 15% of our full year EPS is expected in the first quarter, as it will only include two months of Specialty Vehicles earnings and seasonally lower volume in legacy Terex. We expect 2026 cash conversion of between 80% and 90% of net income, including transaction costs and costs to achieve synergies. Our net leverage is expected to improve over the course of the year. The effective tax rate is expected to be higher at 21%, driven by higher USD income. the effective tax rate is expected to be higher at 21% driven by higher usd income As expected, the merger has a modest 3% diluted effect on EPS in 2026 due to higher number of shares outstanding post-merger. as expected the merger has a modest 3% diluted effect on eps in 2026 due to higher number of shares outstanding post-merger We expect 2026 EPS between $4.50 - $5, with a share account of 111 million shares, as compared to a legacy Terex range of $4.80-$5.20. we expect 2026 eps between $4.50 - $5 with a share account of 111 million shares as compared to a legacy terex range of $4.80-$5.20 For modeling purposes, approximately 15% of our full year EPS is expected in the first quarter, as it will only include two months of Specialty Vehicles earnings and seasonally lower volume in legacy Terex. for modeling purposes approximately 15% of our full year eps is expected in the first quarter as it will only include two months of specialty vehicles earnings and seasonally lower volume in legacy terex We expect 2026 cash conversion of between 80% and 90% of net income, including transaction costs and costs to achieve synergies. we expect 2026 cash conversion of between 80% and 90% of net income including transaction costs and costs to achieve synergies Our net leverage is expected to improve over the course of the year. our net leverage is expected to improve over the course of the year Looking at our segments, we expect Environmental Solutions to grow in the single digits in 2026, led by Utilities, where we continue to see strong demand for bucket trucks and digger derricks used in the electric power market. We are currently anticipating roughly flat sales on ESG, with upside potential in the second half as we get more clarity on fleet requirements and EPA emission regulations for a second-half prebuy. We continue to see growth in our market leading digital solutions in the waste sector and expanding into Utilities and concrete. We will explore opportunities to extend this technology into emergency vehicles during integration. ES achieved strong profitability in 2025, and we anticipate similar full year margins in 2026 as synergy executions and productivity offset the unfavorable mix from higher Utilities growth. Looking at our segments, we expect Environmental Solutions to grow in the single digits in 2026, led by Utilities, where we continue to see strong demand for bucket trucks and digger derricks used in the electric power market. looking at our segments we expect environmental solutions to grow in the single digits in 2026 led by utilities where we continue to see strong demand for bucket trucks and digger derricks used in the electric power market We are currently anticipating roughly flat sales on ESG, with upside potential in the second half as we get more clarity on fleet requirements and EPA emission regulations for a second-half prebuy. we are currently anticipating roughly flat sales on esg with upside potential in the second half as we get more clarity on fleet requirements and epa emission regulations for a second-half prebuy We continue to see growth in our market leading digital solutions in the waste sector and expanding into Utilities and concrete. we continue to see growth in our market leading digital solutions in the waste sector and expanding into utilities and concrete We will explore opportunities to extend this technology into emergency vehicles during integration. we will explore opportunities to extend this technology into emergency vehicles during integration ES achieved strong profitability in 2025, and we anticipate similar full year margins in 2026 as synergy executions and productivity offset the unfavorable mix from higher Utilities growth. es achieved strong profitability in 2025 and we anticipate similar full year margins in 2026 as synergy executions and productivity offset the unfavorable mix from higher utilities growth Turning to MP, we expect the segment to inflect back to full year growth in the high single digit range in 2026 on a pro forma basis, excluding Queensland. Fleet utilizations and aging equipment resulted in strong bookings in aggregate handling and environmental. We also expect margins to improve in 2026 due to higher volume, productivity, and pricing action. Our new specialty vehicle segment enters 2026 with roughly two years of backlog. We expect sales growth of high single digits from a comparable pro forma prior year total of $2.2 billion, excluding the divested Lance Camper and Midwest Automotive Designs RV businesses. We also expect meaningful margin improvement in SV compared to the prior year period EBITDA margin of approximately 12.5% on a pro forma basis due to higher throughput, price, and ongoing operational improvements. Finally, in Aerials, we anticipate 2026 sales and margins to be similar to 2025. Turning to MP, we expect the segment to inflect back to full year growth in the high single digit range in 2026 on a pro forma basis, excluding Queensland. turning to mp we expect the segment to inflect back to full year growth in the high single digit range in 2026 on a pro forma basis excluding queensland Fleet utilizations and aging equipment resulted in strong bookings in aggregate handling and environmental. fleet utilizations and aging equipment resulted in strong bookings in aggregate handling and environmental We also expect margins to improve in 2026 due to higher volume, productivity, and pricing action. we also expect margins to improve in 2026 due to higher volume productivity and pricing action Our new specialty vehicle segment enters 2026 with roughly two years of backlog. our new specialty vehicle segment enters 2026 with roughly two years of backlog We expect sales growth of high single digits from a comparable pro forma prior year total of $2.2 billion, excluding the divested Lance Camper and Midwest Automotive Designs RV businesses. we expect sales growth of high single digits from a comparable pro forma prior year total of $2.2 billion excluding the divested lance camper and midwest automotive designs rv businesses We also expect meaningful margin improvement in SV compared to the prior year period EBITDA margin of approximately 12.5% on a pro forma basis due to higher throughput, price, and ongoing operational improvements. we also expect meaningful margin improvement in sv compared to the prior year period ebitda margin of approximately 12.5% on a pro forma basis due to higher throughput price and ongoing operational improvements Finally, in Aerials, we anticipate 2026 sales and margins to be similar to 2025. finally in aerials we anticipate 2026 sales and margins to be similar to 2025 We have good visibility heading into 2026 with $906 million backlog following strong Q4 bookings. Overall, I'm very excited about our opportunity to grow and continue to improve the financial performance of our new company in 2026. Turning to slide 13. In 2025, we maintain our commitment to invest in our businesses to fuel organic growth, with over $118 million in capital expenditures targeted at automation, innovation, throughput, and efficiency improvements, among other growth accelerants. As expected, we returned $98 million to shareholders through dividends and share buybacks last year. We purposefully structured the merger to maintain a strong balance sheet and flexible capital structure to enable organic investments and lower net leverage. That said, we have not assumed any significant debt repayments as they do not mature until 2029. Please turn to slide 14, and I'll turn it back to Simon. We have good visibility heading into 2026 with $906 million backlog following strong Q4 bookings. we have good visibility heading into 2026 with $906 million backlog following strong q4 bookings Overall, I'm very excited about our opportunity to grow and continue to improve the financial performance of our new company in 2026. overall i'm very excited about our opportunity to grow and continue to improve the financial performance of our new company in 2026 Turning to slide 13. turning to slide 13 In 2025, we maintain our commitment to invest in our businesses to fuel organic growth, with over $118 million in capital expenditures targeted at automation, innovation, throughput, and efficiency improvements, among other growth accelerants. in 2025 we maintain our commitment to invest in our businesses to fuel organic growth with over $118 million in capital expenditures targeted at automation innovation throughput and efficiency improvements among other growth accelerants As expected, we returned $98 million to shareholders through dividends and share buybacks last year. as expected we returned $98 million to shareholders through dividends and share buybacks last year We purposefully structured the merger to maintain a strong balance sheet and flexible capital structure to enable organic investments and lower net leverage. we purposefully structured the merger to maintain a strong balance sheet and flexible capital structure to enable organic investments and lower net leverage That said, we have not assumed any significant debt repayments as they do not mature until 2029. that said we have not assumed any significant debt repayments as they do not mature until 2029 Please turn to slide 14, and I'll turn it back to Simon. please turn to slide 14 and i'll turn it back to simon
Speaker 11: Thanks, Jen. 2025 was a consequential year in the long history of Terex. We successfully completed the integration of ESG, navigated multiple macro and market headwinds, and ultimately delivered on our original 2025 guidance. We also announced and have now completed our merger with REV. With this merger, we have created a leading specialty equipment manufacturer with a highly complementary and synergistic portfolio serving a diverse set of attractive, resilient, and growing end markets. Our focus has already shifted to executing the REV integration, capturing at least $75 million of synergies, and delivering on the commitments we've made across each of our segments. I'm excited about the road ahead, and I know our team is energized as we continue to build the new Terex together. And with that, I would like to open it up for questions. Operator? Thanks, Jen. 2025 was a consequential year in the long history of Terex. thanks jen 2025 was a consequential year in the long history of terex We successfully completed the integration of ESG, navigated multiple macro and market headwinds, and ultimately delivered on our original 2025 guidance. we successfully completed the integration of esg navigated multiple macro and market headwinds and ultimately delivered on our original 2025 guidance We also announced and have now completed our merger with REV. we also announced and have now completed our merger with rev With this merger, we have created a leading specialty equipment manufacturer with a highly complementary and synergistic portfolio serving a diverse set of attractive, resilient, and growing end markets. with this merger we have created a leading specialty equipment manufacturer with a highly complementary and synergistic portfolio serving a diverse set of attractive resilient and growing end markets Our focus has already shifted to executing the REV integration, capturing at least $75 million of synergies, and delivering on the commitments we've made across each of our segments. our focus has already shifted to executing the rev integration capturing at least $75 million of synergies and delivering on the commitments we've made across each of our segments I'm excited about the road ahead, and I know our team is energized as we continue to build the new Terex together. i'm excited about the road ahead and i know our team is energized as we continue to build the new terex together And with that, I would like to open it up for questions. and with that i would like to open it up for questions Operator? operator
Speaker 10: At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then one on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Tim Thein with Raymond James. Please go ahead. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then one on your telephone keypad. at this time i would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question press star then one on your telephone keypad Your first question comes from the line of Tim Thein with Raymond James. your first question comes from the line of tim thein with raymond james Please go ahead. please go ahead
Speaker 13: Great. Thank you. Good morning. The first question. The MP segment, and you highlighted strength in aggregates and material handling within the order comments, which if sustained would or should be good in terms of product mix. I'm curious on the pricing side and kind of your visibility in terms of what you have in the backlog with respect to crushing and screening being an important piece there. Some of your larger international competitors are facing some sizable tariff headwinds in North America. So maybe you can just talk about what you're seeing and your expectations just around that pricing tailwind that you highlighted in the fourth quarter, how that's kind of influencing your outlook for 2026. Great. great Thank you. thank you Good morning. good morning The first question. the first question The MP segment, and you highlighted strength in aggregates and material handling within the order comments, which if sustained would or should be good in terms of product mix. the mp segment and you highlighted strength in aggregates and material handling within the order comments which if sustained would or should be good in terms of product mix I'm curious on the pricing side and kind of your visibility in terms of what you have in the backlog with respect to crushing and screening being an important piece there. i'm curious on the pricing side and kind of your visibility in terms of what you have in the backlog with respect to crushing and screening being an important piece there Some of your larger international competitors are facing some sizable tariff headwinds in North America. some of your larger international competitors are facing some sizable tariff headwinds in north america So maybe you can just talk about what you're seeing and your expectations just around that pricing tailwind that you highlighted in the fourth quarter, how that's kind of influencing your outlook for 2026. so maybe you can just talk about what you're seeing and your expectations just around that pricing tailwind that you highlighted in the fourth quarter how that's kind of influencing your outlook for 2026
Speaker 6: Hey, Tim. Good morning. This is Jen. So the pricing, as you know, we do not disclose specifically on the segment basis, but you could see that we have a progressive step up in our margin profile in Q4 versus Q3 for MP, and a large portion of that is driven by price flowing through the P&L. We expect that with the strong backlog that we ended in December, that to flow through, and it progressively step up again throughout the year for 2026 by quarter. Hey, Tim. hey tim Good morning. good morning This is Jen. this is jen So the pricing, as you know, we do not disclose specifically on the segment basis, but you could see that we have a progressive step up in our margin profile in Q4 versus Q3 for MP, and a large portion of that is driven by price flowing through the P&L. so the pricing as you know we do not disclose specifically on the segment basis but you could see that we have a progressive step up in our margin profile in q4 versus q3 for mp and a large portion of that is driven by price flowing through the p&l We expect that with the strong backlog that we ended in December, that to flow through, and it progressively step up again throughout the year for 2026 by quarter. we expect that with the strong backlog that we ended in december that to flow through and it progressively step up again throughout the year for 2026 by quarter
Speaker 13: Okay. Good. Jen, I apologize if I missed it, but with Aerials specifically, kind of the interplay with tariffs and how you're expecting price cost to play out just more broadly for Aerials in 2026, I'm guessing it's more of a second-half story, but maybe you can just comment on that. And again, apologies if I missed that. Thank you. Okay. okay Good. Jen, I apologize if I missed it, but with Aerials specifically, kind of the interplay with tariffs and how you're expecting price cost to play out just more broadly for Aerials in 2026, I'm guessing it's more of a second-half story, but maybe you can just comment on that. good jen i apologize if i missed it but with aerials specifically kind of the interplay with tariffs and how you're expecting price cost to play out just more broadly for aerials in 2026 i'm guessing it's more of a second-half story but maybe you can just comment on that And again, apologies if I missed that. and again apologies if i missed that Thank you. thank you
Speaker 6: Right. So the errors in the prepared remarks, we say that we're expecting kind of flat revenue and also kind of flat margin profile. We expect that in 2026, that we have more headwinds in the hours given that the tariffs is going to be 12 months of impact versus about approximately six months of impact in 2025. That translates rounding on a number standpoint, about $16 million more, and we're offsetting that to productivity and price for a net impact of flat throughout the year. In first-half year, we expect that the price cost neutrality to be more skewed towards the second-half of the year, but at the end of the year, we're going to be flat, holding our margins with a flat top line. Right. right So the errors in the prepared remarks, we say that we're expecting kind of flat revenue and also kind of flat margin profile. so the errors in the prepared remarks we say that we're expecting kind of flat revenue and also kind of flat margin profile We expect that in 2026, that we have more headwinds in the hours given that the tariffs is going to be 12 months of impact versus about approximately six months of impact in 2025. we expect that in 2026 that we have more headwinds in the hours given that the tariffs is going to be 12 months of impact versus about approximately six months of impact in 2025 That translates rounding on a number standpoint, about $16 million more, and we're offsetting that to productivity and price for a net impact of flat throughout the year. that translates rounding on a number standpoint about $16 million more and we're offsetting that to productivity and price for a net impact of flat throughout the year In first-half year, we expect that the price cost neutrality to be more skewed towards the second-half of the year, but at the end of the year, we're going to be flat, holding our margins with a flat top line. in first-half year we expect that the price cost neutrality to be more skewed towards the second-half of the year but at the end of the year we're going to be flat holding our margins with a flat top line
Speaker 11: A little less favorable in the first half, a little bit more favorable in the second half. A little less favorable in the first half, a little bit more favorable in the second half. a little less favorable in the first half a little bit more favorable in the second half
Speaker 13: Got it. Thank you. Got it. got it Thank you. thank you
Speaker 11: Thanks, Tim. Thanks, Tim. thanks tim
Speaker 10: Your next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Your next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich with Wells Fargo. your next question comes from the line of jerry revich with wells fargo Please go ahead. please go ahead
Speaker 7: Yes. Hi. Good morning, everyone. Yes. yes Hi. hi Good morning, everyone. good morning everyone
Speaker 11: Hey. Good morning. Hey. hey Good morning. good morning
Speaker 7: Simon? Hi. Simon? I wondered if we could just talk about the REV integration. I saw the divestiture. The business has been operating really well in terms of driving higher efficiency rates. Can you just talk about the plan for the business from here relative to what we heard from the REV team maybe six to nine months ago and any update on order cadence and expectations for bookings as well? It sounds like there's more opportunity from a manufacturing standpoint, but I'm wondering if you could just expand on that, please. Simon? simon Hi. hi Simon? simon I wondered if we could just talk about the REV integration. i wondered if we could just talk about the rev integration I saw the divestiture. i saw the divestiture The business has been operating really well in terms of driving higher efficiency rates. the business has been operating really well in terms of driving higher efficiency rates Can you just talk about the plan for the business from here relative to what we heard from the REV team maybe six to nine months ago and any update on order cadence and expectations for bookings as well? can you just talk about the plan for the business from here relative to what we heard from the rev team maybe six to nine months ago and any update on order cadence and expectations for bookings as well It sounds like there's more opportunity from a manufacturing standpoint, but I'm wondering if you could just expand on that, please. it sounds like there's more opportunity from a manufacturing standpoint but i'm wondering if you could just expand on that please
Speaker 11: Yeah. No. Thanks for the question. So it's been nine days now since we closed, so we're very excited. Yeah. Obviously, it's mostly a throughput story because, again, going into 2026, our specialty vehicle segment, legacy REV, if you will, still operates with about a 2-year backlog, and they did report relatively strong bookings again in their last fiscal quarter. So it's mostly just to make sure that we keep burning that backlog down as much as we can. So it's going to be all about throughput. Now, there's obviously price in that backlog, so it's going to be a combination of price and volume that's going to drive the margin improvement in 2026. But it's mostly just making sure we keep that operational momentum. Yeah. yeah No. no Thanks for the question. thanks for the question So it's been nine days now since we closed, so we're very excited. so it's been nine days now since we closed so we're very excited Yeah. yeah Obviously, it's mostly a throughput story because, again, going into 2026, our specialty vehicle segment, legacy REV, if you will, still operates with about a 2-year backlog, and they did report relatively strong bookings again in their last fiscal quarter. obviously it's mostly a throughput story because again going into 2026 our specialty vehicle segment legacy rev if you will still operates with about a 2-year backlog and they did report relatively strong bookings again in their last fiscal quarter So it's mostly just to make sure that we keep burning that backlog down as much as we can. so it's mostly just to make sure that we keep burning that backlog down as much as we can So it's going to be all about throughput. so it's going to be all about throughput Now, there's obviously price in that backlog, so it's going to be a combination of price and volume that's going to drive the margin improvement in 2026. now there's obviously price in that backlog so it's going to be a combination of price and volume that's going to drive the margin improvement in 2026 But it's mostly just making sure we keep that operational momentum. but it's mostly just making sure we keep that operational momentum That's why we were so eager on making sure that we keep the organization intact and that we can just purely focus on making sure we keep that momentum going into 2026. That's why we were so eager on making sure that we keep the organization intact and that we can just purely focus on making sure we keep that momentum going into 2026. that's why we were so eager on making sure that we keep the organization intact and that we can just purely focus on making sure we keep that momentum going into 2026
Speaker 7: Okay. Super. And separately, ESG is pleasantly surprised with the bookings, it sounds like, within the high part of the portfolio are more resilient than what I would have thought three months ago given what the waste companies have been talking about. Truck plants, can you just expand on what you're saying? Is that the impact of the EPA '27 certainty or just if you wouldn't mind just double-clicking on the really good performance within Heil? Okay. okay Super. super And separately, ESG is pleasantly surprised with the bookings, it sounds like, within the high part of the portfolio are more resilient than what I would have thought three months ago given what the waste companies have been talking about. and separately esg is pleasantly surprised with the bookings it sounds like within the high part of the portfolio are more resilient than what i would have thought three months ago given what the waste companies have been talking about Truck plants, can you just expand on what you're saying? truck plants can you just expand on what you're saying Is that the impact of the EPA '27 certainty or just if you wouldn't mind just double-clicking on the really good performance within Heil? is that the impact of the epa '27 certainty or just if you wouldn't mind just double-clicking on the really good performance within heil
Speaker 11: Yeah. Obviously, I would say the segment, the Environmental Solutions segment, recorded outstanding performance in 2025, and a lot of that was driven by Heil, by ESG. But also, we saw synergies kicking in with Utilities, so we saw the Utilities business stepping up as well. But ESG was leading the charge, if you will, in terms of top line. And now in 2026, we see that kind of flipping, so Utilities is now accelerating a little bit more than ESG. We're expecting ESG to be kind of flattish from a top-line perspective and most of the growth coming from Utilities. But yeah, we feel that that segment has a lot of momentum. We don't see that slowing down anytime soon, so we're very pleased with how ES is performing. Yeah. yeah Obviously, I would say the segment, the Environmental Solutions segment, recorded outstanding performance in 2025, and a lot of that was driven by Heil, by ESG. obviously i would say the segment the environmental solutions segment recorded outstanding performance in 2025 and a lot of that was driven by heil by esg But also, we saw synergies kicking in with Utilities, so we saw the Utilities business stepping up as well. but also we saw synergies kicking in with utilities so we saw the utilities business stepping up as well But ESG was leading the charge, if you will, in terms of top line. but esg was leading the charge if you will in terms of top line And now in 2026, we see that kind of flipping, so Utilities is now accelerating a little bit more than ESG. and now in 2026 we see that kind of flipping so utilities is now accelerating a little bit more than esg We're expecting ESG to be kind of flattish from a top-line perspective and most of the growth coming from Utilities. we're expecting esg to be kind of flattish from a top-line perspective and most of the growth coming from utilities But yeah, we feel that that segment has a lot of momentum. but yeah we feel that that segment has a lot of momentum We don't see that slowing down anytime soon, so we're very pleased with how ES is performing. we don't see that slowing down anytime soon so we're very pleased with how es is performing
Speaker 7: Thank you. Thank you. thank you
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Speaker 1: Good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to unpack a little bit more on the aerial side too. You had a very strong quarter for bookings there, and you talked about replacement demand from the rental customers. Can you just talk a little bit more what you're hearing from the customer base broadly in this space? And I think one of your competitors talked about a little bit of pull forward potentially into the fourth quarter. Did you see any of that, or how are you seeing, in particular, maybe orders in January and February kind of following that stronger fourth quarter and continuing that? Good morning, and thanks for taking my question. good morning and thanks for taking my question Just wanted to unpack a little bit more on the aerial side too. just wanted to unpack a little bit more on the aerial side too You had a very strong quarter for bookings there, and you talked about replacement demand from the rental customers. you had a very strong quarter for bookings there and you talked about replacement demand from the rental customers Can you just talk a little bit more what you're hearing from the customer base broadly in this space? can you just talk a little bit more what you're hearing from the customer base broadly in this space And I think one of your competitors talked about a little bit of pull forward potentially into the fourth quarter. and i think one of your competitors talked about a little bit of pull forward potentially into the fourth quarter Did you see any of that, or how are you seeing, in particular, maybe orders in January and February kind of following that stronger fourth quarter and continuing that? did you see any of that or how are you seeing in particular maybe orders in january and february kind of following that stronger fourth quarter and continuing that
Speaker 11: Yeah. If you look at last year, we had strong book-to-bill in both Q4 and Q1. I think average both quarters was about 150%. This year, Q4 coming in over 200%. We expect Q1 to be somewhat north of 100%, but it's probably fair to assume that both quarters will average again at about 150% book-to-bill. So that kind of sets our guidance being flat because we expect Q1 to be a little softer than Q1 of last year, still north of 100%. But overall, yeah, going into the year with 5-6 months of coverage obviously gives us a good forward visibility. But the reality is most of the demand is still just coming from mega projects, coming from the nationals. Yeah. yeah If you look at last year, we had strong book-to-bill in both Q4 and Q1. if you look at last year we had strong book-to-bill in both q4 and q1 I think average both quarters was about 150%. i think average both quarters was about 150% This year, Q4 coming in over 200%. this year q4 coming in over 200% We expect Q1 to be somewhat north of 100%, but it's probably fair to assume that both quarters will average again at about 150% book-to-bill. we expect q1 to be somewhat north of 100% but it's probably fair to assume that both quarters will average again at about 150% book-to-bill So that kind of sets our guidance being flat because we expect Q1 to be a little softer than Q1 of last year, still north of 100%. so that kind of sets our guidance being flat because we expect q1 to be a little softer than q1 of last year still north of 100% But overall, yeah, going into the year with 5-6 months of coverage obviously gives us a good forward visibility. but overall yeah going into the year with 5-6 months of coverage obviously gives us a good forward visibility But the reality is most of the demand is still just coming from mega projects, coming from the nationals. but the reality is most of the demand is still just coming from mega projects coming from the nationals Europe is picking up a little bit, not that material, but we haven't baked any major recovery with the independents into our guide for 2026. We expect that to happen more in 2027. Europe is picking up a little bit, not that material, but we haven't baked any major recovery with the independents into our guide for 2026. europe is picking up a little bit not that material but we haven't baked any major recovery with the independents into our guide for 2026 We expect that to happen more in 2027. we expect that to happen more in 2027
Speaker 1: That's very helpful. Thank you. And then could we just unpack a little bit more just on the commentaries around ES? I think if you could talk about the backlog there as well, it sounds like Utilities is seeing a nice uplift. So just the shape of that into next year, and then if you could, I guess, Jen, if you could just unpack the margin dynamic a little bit. It sounds like Utilities should be a positive for margins, a nice tailwind there. And you expect, I think, if I heard correctly, ESG flattish, but it sounds like there's some factors maybe weighing on that margin and keeping the full segment more flattish for the full year. So if you could just unpack the puts and takes and maybe talk about it on a quarterly basis, that'd be helpful. That's very helpful. that's very helpful Thank you. thank you And then could we just unpack a little bit more just on the commentaries around ES? and then could we just unpack a little bit more just on the commentaries around es I think if you could talk about the backlog there as well, it sounds like Utilities is seeing a nice uplift. i think if you could talk about the backlog there as well it sounds like utilities is seeing a nice uplift So just the shape of that into next year, and then if you could, I guess, Jen, if you could just unpack the margin dynamic a little bit. so just the shape of that into next year and then if you could i guess jen if you could just unpack the margin dynamic a little bit It sounds like Utilities should be a positive for margins, a nice tailwind there. it sounds like utilities should be a positive for margins a nice tailwind there And you expect, I think, if I heard correctly, ESG flattish, but it sounds like there's some factors maybe weighing on that margin and keeping the full segment more flattish for the full year. and you expect i think if i heard correctly esg flattish but it sounds like there's some factors maybe weighing on that margin and keeping the full segment more flattish for the full year So if you could just unpack the puts and takes and maybe talk about it on a quarterly basis, that'd be helpful. so if you could just unpack the puts and takes and maybe talk about it on a quarterly basis that'd be helpful
Speaker 6: Good morning. So I'll take the margin question, and then I'll let Simon take the backlog question. So you're right. For the margin, when we said in the prepared remarks that the margin is flattish, I'm referring to a percentage-wise, and value-wise is still increasing. So the higher top-line growth coming from Utilities will drive an unfavorable mix. However, it's being offset by the synergies flowing through in the ES reportable segments and also driven by the productivity that they have been working to. In 2025, we communicated that the Utilities division within the ES segment has demonstrated progressive growth in the margin profile. We expect that to continue into 2026 as the team actually re-layout the Waukesha factory and also looking at standardization. Good morning. good morning So I'll take the margin question, and then I'll let Simon take the backlog question. so i'll take the margin question and then i'll let simon take the backlog question So you're right. so you're right For the margin, when we said in the prepared remarks that the margin is flattish, I'm referring to a percentage-wise, and value-wise is still increasing. for the margin when we said in the prepared remarks that the margin is flattish i'm referring to a percentage-wise and value-wise is still increasing So the higher top-line growth coming from Utilities will drive an unfavorable mix. so the higher top-line growth coming from utilities will drive an unfavorable mix However, it's being offset by the synergies flowing through in the ES reportable segments and also driven by the productivity that they have been working to. however it's being offset by the synergies flowing through in the es reportable segments and also driven by the productivity that they have been working to In 2025, we communicated that the Utilities division within the ES segment has demonstrated progressive growth in the margin profile. in 2025 we communicated that the utilities division within the es segment has demonstrated progressive growth in the margin profile We expect that to continue into 2026 as the team actually re-layout the Waukesha factory and also looking at standardization. we expect that to continue into 2026 as the team actually re-layout the waukesha factory and also looking at standardization
Speaker 11: Yeah. And then on the backlog, so yeah, ESG did an outstanding job in 2025 leading the industry, quite frankly, in terms of throughput and reducing lead times. And so going into 2026, we see lead times now kind of have normalized in ESG. So we're back to kind of pre-COVID levels, backlog coverage, so 3-4 months forward visibility. We didn't put any EPA prebuys into our outlook for ESG, and that's why we're kind of holding them flat. And Utilities is actually the backlog continues to increase, hence the reason we're expanding our capacity in that particular segment, which is already ramping up as we speak. So we're expecting to add about 20%-30% capacity in Utilities just to keep up with the rising demand. Yeah. yeah And then on the backlog, so yeah, ESG did an outstanding job in 2025 leading the industry, quite frankly, in terms of throughput and reducing lead times. and then on the backlog so yeah esg did an outstanding job in 2025 leading the industry quite frankly in terms of throughput and reducing lead times And so going into 2026, we see lead times now kind of have normalized in ESG. and so going into 2026 we see lead times now kind of have normalized in esg So we're back to kind of pre-COVID levels, backlog coverage, so 3-4 months forward visibility. so we're back to kind of pre-covid levels backlog coverage so 3-4 months forward visibility We didn't put any EPA prebuys into our outlook for ESG, and that's why we're kind of holding them flat. we didn't put any epa prebuys into our outlook for esg and that's why we're kind of holding them flat And Utilities is actually the backlog continues to increase, hence the reason we're expanding our capacity in that particular segment, which is already ramping up as we speak. and utilities is actually the backlog continues to increase hence the reason we're expanding our capacity in that particular segment which is already ramping up as we speak So we're expecting to add about 20%-30% capacity in Utilities just to keep up with the rising demand. so we're expecting to add about 20%-30% capacity in utilities just to keep up with the rising demand
Speaker 1: Very helpful. Thank you. Very helpful. very helpful Thank you. thank you
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Speaker 5: Hi. Good morning. I guess two questions. First, Simon, on the specialty business or REV Group, it sounds like the backdrop for 2026 is good with the extended visibility backlog two years out. I'm just wondering if there's obviously, it's a new acquisition. So to what degree is there conservatism in your forecast for specialty? And if there was, what would that come from? Is it just getting more burning through more backlog? So just sort of your assumptions around there where there would be upside. And then my second question just on Aerials, understanding you can't say that much, but it seems like the backdrop for selling that business is probably better versus when you initially announced it with a view that aerial markets have clearly bottomed, potentially positive upside surprise. Hi. hi Good morning. good morning I guess two questions. i guess two questions First, Simon, on the specialty business or REV Group, it sounds like the backdrop for 2026 is good with the extended visibility backlog two years out. first simon on the specialty business or rev group it sounds like the backdrop for 2026 is good with the extended visibility backlog two years out I'm just wondering if there's obviously, it's a new acquisition. i'm just wondering if there's obviously it's a new acquisition So to what degree is there conservatism in your forecast for specialty? so to what degree is there conservatism in your forecast for specialty And if there was, what would that come from? and if there was what would that come from Is it just getting more burning through more backlog? is it just getting more burning through more backlog So just sort of your assumptions around there where there would be upside. so just sort of your assumptions around there where there would be upside And then my second question just on Aerials, understanding you can't say that much, but it seems like the backdrop for selling that business is probably better versus when you initially announced it with a view that aerial markets have clearly bottomed, potentially positive upside surprise. and then my second question just on aerials understanding you can't say that much but it seems like the backdrop for selling that business is probably better versus when you initially announced it with a view that aerial markets have clearly bottomed potentially positive upside surprise So anything you can tell us, is that asset more interesting to people just because it sounds like we should be getting some cyclical tailwinds? Thank you. So anything you can tell us, is that asset more interesting to people just because it sounds like we should be getting some cyclical tailwinds? so anything you can tell us is that asset more interesting to people just because it sounds like we should be getting some cyclical tailwinds Thank you. thank you
Speaker 11: Yeah. Thanks for the question. So on Specialty Vehicles, yeah, there's obviously a lot going on. The team is working flat out to make sure that we can actually start bringing the backlog down a little bit. So where we see any upside, I mean, the team actually performed really strongly year-over-year, 2025 to 2024. We just want to make sure that we maintain that operational momentum. So I don't know if there's any particular upside I can call out. I'm very comfortable with the guide that we have laid out, and it comes down to execution. On Aerials, yeah, I mean, we've set this in October. We believe it's a well-known asset. We believe it's well-documented how that business performs through the cycle. It's a very strong brand celebrating 60-year anniversary this year at ARA, which we're looking forward to. Yeah. yeah Thanks for the question. thanks for the question So on Specialty Vehicles , yeah, there's obviously a lot going on. so on specialty vehicles yeah there's obviously a lot going on The team is working flat out to make sure that we can actually start bringing the backlog down a little bit. the team is working flat out to make sure that we can actually start bringing the backlog down a little bit So where we see any upside, I mean, the team actually performed really strongly year-over-year, 2025 to 2024. so where we see any upside i mean the team actually performed really strongly year-over-year 2025 to 2024 We just want to make sure that we maintain that operational momentum. we just want to make sure that we maintain that operational momentum So I don't know if there's any particular upside I can call out. so i don't know if there's any particular upside i can call out I'm very comfortable with the guide that we have laid out, and it comes down to execution. i'm very comfortable with the guide that we have laid out and it comes down to execution On Aerials, yeah, I mean, we've set this in October. on aerials yeah i mean we've set this in october We believe it's a well-known asset. we believe it's a well-known asset We believe it's well-documented how that business performs through the cycle. we believe it's well-documented how that business performs through the cycle It's a very strong brand celebrating 60-year anniversary this year at ARA, which we're looking forward to. it's a very strong brand celebrating 60-year anniversary this year at ara which we're looking forward to I can obviously not disclose too much because it's an active process, but yeah, we were very pleased with the inbound interest that we received. We're going to be very deliberate in evaluating the interest and decide on the best approach for our shareholders going forward. I can obviously not disclose too much because it's an active process, but yeah, we were very pleased with the inbound interest that we received. i can obviously not disclose too much because it's an active process but yeah we were very pleased with the inbound interest that we received We're going to be very deliberate in evaluating the interest and decide on the best approach for our shareholders going forward. we're going to be very deliberate in evaluating the interest and decide on the best approach for our shareholders going forward
Speaker 6: And if Jamie, if I could just add, in the new reportable segment of SV, the incremental margin on the higher volume is going to be in that range of 30% as a gauge with the highs in Q2 and Q3 and tapering down into Q4 due to seasonally lower revenue due to the weather. So I think while we have baked in a very strong margin profile that's supporting our $100 million EBITDA margin expansion in the midpoint of our range. And if Jamie, if I could just add, in the new reportable segment of SV, the incremental margin on the higher volume is going to be in that range of 30% as a gauge with the highs in Q2 and Q3 and tapering down into Q4 due to seasonally lower revenue due to the weather. and if jamie if i could just add in the new reportable segment of sv the incremental margin on the higher volume is going to be in that range of 30% as a gauge with the highs in q2 and q3 and tapering down into q4 due to seasonally lower revenue due to the weather So I think while we have baked in a very strong margin profile that's supporting our $100 million EBITDA margin expansion in the midpoint of our range. so i think while we have baked in a very strong margin profile that's supporting our $100 million ebitda margin expansion in the midpoint of our range
Speaker 5: Thank you very much. Thank you very much. thank you very much
Speaker 11: Thank you, Jamie. Thank you, Jamie. thank you jamie
Speaker 6: You're welcome. You're welcome. you're welcome
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Speaker 3: Hi. Thank you. First, on the dilution, a little bit less than I think the street was thinking. I took notice the share count seemed to be a little bit lower when you said 111 for the year. Maybe I missed it. Is there some share repo in that number? Just trying to get the math from and I was just doing the basic conversion of the roughly 49.3 million shares that REV Group had. Even the interest expense, a little bit lower than I would have thought. So I'm just trying to understand exactly the dilution being only about $0.25. Hi. hi Thank you. thank you First, on the dilution, a little bit less than I think the street was thinking. first on the dilution a little bit less than i think the street was thinking I took notice the share count seemed to be a little bit lower when you said 111 for the year. i took notice the share count seemed to be a little bit lower when you said 111 for the year Maybe I missed it. maybe i missed it Is there some share repo in that number? is there some share repo in that number Just trying to get the math from and I was just doing the basic conversion of the roughly 49.3 million shares that REV Group had. just trying to get the math from and i was just doing the basic conversion of the roughly 49.3 million shares that rev group had Even the interest expense, a little bit lower than I would have thought. even the interest expense a little bit lower than i would have thought So I'm just trying to understand exactly the dilution being only about $0.25. so i'm just trying to understand exactly the dilution being only about $0.25
Speaker 6: Hey, David. Good morning. So I think the two parts of your question. The first one, in terms of the 111 million of share count, that's because we only acquired that's a weighted average number and because we only issued them in February. So that equates to 111 million, but full year is that 115 million. I think that's maybe where you're looking at. Second question, in terms of the dilution, yes. In fact, during the merger, we have alluded to the fact that it's going to be a net single digit of EPS dilution given that the share count, the higher share count, cannot be fully offset by the 11 months of REV earnings. So that translates to be about 3% just for share count alone and then 2% based on a higher tax rate. So that's where we are. Hey, David. hey david Good morning. good morning So I think the two parts of your question. so i think the two parts of your question The first one, in terms of the 111 million of share count, that's because we only acquired that's a weighted average number and because we only issued them in February. the first one in terms of the 111 million of share count that's because we only acquired that's a weighted average number and because we only issued them in february So that equates to 111 million, but full year is that 115 million. so that equates to 111 million but full year is that 115 million I think that's maybe where you're looking at. i think that's maybe where you're looking at Second question, in terms of the dilution, yes. second question in terms of the dilution yes In fact, during the merger, we have alluded to the fact that it's going to be a net single digit of EPS dilution given that the share count, the higher share count, cannot be fully offset by the 11 months of REV earnings. in fact during the merger we have alluded to the fact that it's going to be a net single digit of eps dilution given that the share count the higher share count cannot be fully offset by the 11 months of rev earnings So that translates to be about 3% just for share count alone and then 2% based on a higher tax rate. so that translates to be about 3% just for share count alone and then 2% based on a higher tax rate So that's where we are. so that's where we are
Speaker 3: Oh, that's helpful. Yeah. I read the slide on 12 as the share count 111 was for the full year, not just for the quarter. Okay. That's. Oh, that's helpful. oh that's helpful Yeah. yeah I read the slide on 12 as the share count 111 was for the full year, not just for the quarter. i read the slide on 12 as the share count 111 was for the full year not just for the quarter Okay. okay That's. that's
Speaker 6: Yeah. That's weighted average for the full year. Correct. Yeah. yeah That's weighted average for the full year. that's weighted average for the full year Correct. correct
Speaker 3: The one, sorry, the 111 or the 115, just to be clear? The one, sorry, the 111 or the 115, just to be clear? the one sorry the 111 or the 115 just to be clear
Speaker 6: The 115. The 115. the 115
Speaker 3: Full year. Full year. full year
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. 111 is the weighted average for the full year. I'm sorry. 111 is the weighted average for the full year. i'm sorry 111 is the weighted average for the full year
Speaker 3: Okay. The proceeds from an Aerials sale, just curious now that you're a little bit further in the process, you own REV Group, the merger is done. You've obviously been able to move forward with some of the divestiture of a piece of the RV business. Given where the state of the portfolio is, we can debate the right multiple you could get maybe for Aerials. But when you think of the proceeds for that sale, whatever it may be, can you give us a little more clarity how you're thinking about that now? Okay. okay The proceeds from an Aerials sale, just curious now that you're a little bit further in the process, you own REV Group, the merger is done. the proceeds from an aerials sale just curious now that you're a little bit further in the process you own rev group the merger is done You've obviously been able to move forward with some of the divestiture of a piece of the RV business. you've obviously been able to move forward with some of the divestiture of a piece of the rv business Given where the state of the portfolio is, we can debate the right multiple you could get maybe for Aerials. given where the state of the portfolio is we can debate the right multiple you could get maybe for aerials But when you think of the proceeds for that sale, whatever it may be, can you give us a little more clarity how you're thinking about that now? but when you think of the proceeds for that sale whatever it may be can you give us a little more clarity how you're thinking about that now
Speaker 6: Yeah. So right now, on day one, on day nine of our close, the immediate priority is to strengthen the balance sheet to preserve the flexibility given that we funded this merger through both shares and cash. It's right now still too early to tell depending when we actually find a strategic option for Aerials and where we're trading in terms of the share price. But we will have several options, including a return value to the shareholders through the share buyback. We could do an early debt paydown to strengthen our balance sheet, reduce interest, and further improve our leverage, or we reinvest in our business, especially in Utilities and Specialty Vehicles that's going supported by the secular tailwind. But at this point, I think it's still too early to tell. Yeah. yeah So right now, on day one, on day nine of our close, the immediate priority is to strengthen the balance sheet to preserve the flexibility given that we funded this merger through both shares and cash. so right now on day one on day nine of our close the immediate priority is to strengthen the balance sheet to preserve the flexibility given that we funded this merger through both shares and cash It's right now still too early to tell depending when we actually find a strategic option for Aerials and where we're trading in terms of the share price. it's right now still too early to tell depending when we actually find a strategic option for aerials and where we're trading in terms of the share price But we will have several options, including a return value to the shareholders through the share buyback. but we will have several options including a return value to the shareholders through the share buyback We could do an early debt paydown to strengthen our balance sheet, reduce interest, and further improve our leverage, or we reinvest in our business, especially in Utilities and Specialty Vehicles that's going supported by the secular tailwind. we could do an early debt paydown to strengthen our balance sheet reduce interest and further improve our leverage or we reinvest in our business especially in utilities and specialty vehicles that's going supported by the secular tailwind But at this point, I think it's still too early to tell. but at this point i think it's still too early to tell
Speaker 11: Yeah. We really like the optionality that is ahead of us here. But our immediate focus, as you will appreciate, is on integrating REV, focusing on execution, focusing on delivering on our earnings, and the cash conversion. And then we really like the optionality that's at the end of the road here. Yeah. yeah We really like the optionality that is ahead of us here. we really like the optionality that is ahead of us here But our immediate focus, as you will appreciate, is on integrating REV, focusing on execution, focusing on delivering on our earnings, and the cash conversion. but our immediate focus as you will appreciate is on integrating rev focusing on execution focusing on delivering on our earnings and the cash conversion And then we really like the optionality that's at the end of the road here. and then we really like the optionality that's at the end of the road here
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate it. i appreciate it Thank you. thank you
Speaker 11: Thanks, David. Thanks, David. thanks david
Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you. thank you
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Speaker 9: Yes. Thank you for taking the question. Good morning. Sticking with Specialty Vehicles here, I guess a couple of questions. First, how are you thinking about the recreational component of this business longer term? You're obviously in portfolio adjustment mode, which is why I'm asking. And when we're kind of thinking about the moving pieces to margin here, if I heard you correctly and better in your guidance, about 12.5% operating margin. How do you view the longer-term potential here if we're thinking two to three years out? Yes. yes Thank you for taking the question. thank you for taking the question Good morning. good morning Sticking with Specialty Vehicles here, I guess a couple of questions. sticking with specialty vehicles here i guess a couple of questions First, how are you thinking about the recreational component of this business longer term? first how are you thinking about the recreational component of this business longer term You're obviously in portfolio adjustment mode, which is why I'm asking. you're obviously in portfolio adjustment mode which is why i'm asking And when we're kind of thinking about the moving pieces to margin here, if I heard you correctly and better in your guidance, about 12.5% operating margin. and when we're kind of thinking about the moving pieces to margin here if i heard you correctly and better in your guidance about 12.5% operating margin How do you view the longer-term potential here if we're thinking two to three years out? how do you view the longer-term potential here if we're thinking two to three years out
Speaker 11: Yeah. Thanks, Mircea. I'll take the first one, and Jen, maybe you can weigh in on the second question. So on the RV business, yeah, first of all, the announcement that was sent out yesterday on Midwest, that process was already ongoing before we closed the merger. So don't read too much into that, that we are in portfolio adjustment mode. I would actually say we are in integration mode. We are much more focused on what's right in front of us, and that is making sure that we integrate the two companies, that we build our synergy pipeline, that we focus on execution of the four segments that we now own. And that's really our most immediate focus. Yeah. yeah Thanks, Mircea. thanks mircea I'll take the first one, and Jen, maybe you can weigh in on the second question. i'll take the first one and jen maybe you can weigh in on the second question So on the RV business, yeah, first of all, the announcement that was sent out yesterday on Midwest, that process was already ongoing before we closed the merger. so on the rv business yeah first of all the announcement that was sent out yesterday on midwest that process was already ongoing before we closed the merger So don't read too much into that, that we are in portfolio adjustment mode. so don't read too much into that that we are in portfolio adjustment mode I would actually say we are in integration mode. i would actually say we are in integration mode We are much more focused on what's right in front of us, and that is making sure that we integrate the two companies, that we build our synergy pipeline, that we focus on execution of the four segments that we now own. we are much more focused on what's right in front of us and that is making sure that we integrate the two companies that we build our synergy pipeline that we focus on execution of the four segments that we now own And that's really our most immediate focus. and that's really our most immediate focus And now, going into 2027 or beyond, I can't say we won't continue to make some adjustments to our portfolio, but what's right in front of us is integrating REV and executing. You want to take the margin question? And now, going into 2027 or beyond, I can't say we won't continue to make some adjustments to our portfolio, but what's right in front of us is integrating REV and executing. and now going into 2027 or beyond i can't say we won't continue to make some adjustments to our portfolio but what's right in front of us is integrating rev and executing You want to take the margin question? you want to take the margin question
Speaker 6: And Mircea, I think your question on the EBITDA for 12.5%, you're referencing to the new reportable SV segment, and that is without Midwest and Lance, and that was last year on a pro forma basis, 11 months. As you know, you're very familiar with REV. They have publicly disclosed a 2027 target at the enterprise level ranging for that 280 basis point margin improvement from 2025 to 2027. And at this point, we see that they're at the top end of the range and heading towards that direction. So I think for modeling purposes, you could do model that out over the next two years. But they are in line with what they have communicated in their last December 2024 investor day, but at the top end of the range. And Mircea, I think your question on the EBITDA for 12.5%, you're referencing to the new reportable SV segment, and that is without Midwest and Lance, and that was last year on a pro forma basis, 11 months. and mircea i think your question on the ebitda for 12.5% you're referencing to the new reportable sv segment and that is without midwest and lance and that was last year on a pro forma basis 11 months As you know, you're very familiar with REV. as you know you're very familiar with rev They have publicly disclosed a 2027 target at the enterprise level ranging for that 280 basis point margin improvement from 2025 to 2027. they have publicly disclosed a 2027 target at the enterprise level ranging for that 280 basis point margin improvement from 2025 to 2027 And at this point, we see that they're at the top end of the range and heading towards that direction. and at this point we see that they're at the top end of the range and heading towards that direction So I think for modeling purposes, you could do model that out over the next two years. so i think for modeling purposes you could do model that out over the next two years But they are in line with what they have communicated in their last December 2024 investor day, but at the top end of the range. but they are in line with what they have communicated in their last december 2024 investor day but at the top end of the range
Speaker 9: That's helpful. Thank you. Lastly, you gave us some context on tariffs, which is good. But I'm wondering more broadly from a price-cost standpoint, how are you thinking about 2026 and what's embedded in here? Steel has gone up quite a bit of late, and maybe you can comment on any hedges or the cadence of price-cost as the year progresses. That's helpful. that's helpful Thank you. thank you Lastly, you gave us some context on tariffs, which is good. lastly you gave us some context on tariffs which is good But I'm wondering more broadly from a price-cost standpoint, how are you thinking about 2026 and what's embedded in here? but i'm wondering more broadly from a price-cost standpoint how are you thinking about 2026 and what's embedded in here Steel has gone up quite a bit of late, and maybe you can comment on any hedges or the cadence of price-cost as the year progresses. steel has gone up quite a bit of late and maybe you can comment on any hedges or the cadence of price-cost as the year progresses
Speaker 6: Right. So in terms of steel, we do not import raw steel, and 70% of what we use is in HRC. You're right, Mircea that the steel price has increased as expected as vendors try to sell from the U.S. We will continue to monitor that closely and execute our hedging contracts. So right now, we have our Q1s and Q2s of our HRC steel consumption hedge at a favorable rate of 10%-15% lower than the forward price. And any of the imported steel on fabricated parts is already part of our $130 million of tariffs that we've baked into our guide of $4.50-$5. And that includes REV. Right. right So in terms of steel, we do not import raw steel, and 70% of what we use is in HRC. so in terms of steel we do not import raw steel and 70% of what we use is in hrc You're right, Mircea that the steel price has increased as expected as vendors try to sell from the U.S. you're right mircea that the steel price has increased as expected as vendors try to sell from the u.s We will continue to monitor that closely and execute our hedging contracts. we will continue to monitor that closely and execute our hedging contracts So right now, we have our Q1s and Q2s of our HRC steel consumption hedge at a favorable rate of 10%-15% lower than the forward price. so right now we have our q1s and q2s of our hrc steel consumption hedge at a favorable rate of 10%-15% lower than the forward price And any of the imported steel on fabricated parts is already part of our $130 million of tariffs that we've baked into our guide of $4.50-$5. and any of the imported steel on fabricated parts is already part of our $130 million of tariffs that we've baked into our guide of $4.50-$5 And that includes REV. and that includes rev
Speaker 9: Thank you. Thank you. thank you
Speaker 6: You're welcome. You're welcome. you're welcome
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Speaker 2: Hey. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. So in terms of the capacity increases within Environmental Solutions, how much are you expanding capacity? When are you expecting those to come online? How's that split between two businesses in the segment? Just any kind of color if you can give there? Hey. hey Good morning. good morning Thanks for taking the question. thanks for taking the question So in terms of the capacity increases within Environmental Solutions, how much are you expanding capacity? so in terms of the capacity increases within environmental solutions how much are you expanding capacity When are you expecting those to come online? when are you expecting those to come online How's that split between two businesses in the segment? how's that split between two businesses in the segment Just any kind of color if you can give there? just any kind of color if you can give there
Speaker 11: Yeah. We're expanding capacity in our Utilities business, not in ESG per se. We're ramping up our facility in Waukesha, Wisconsin, and we're adding about 20%-30% capacity over the next two years. And some of that, roughly half of that will maybe slightly less than half of that will come online in 2026. And sorry, I forgot. What was the second part of your question? Yeah. yeah We're expanding capacity in our Utilities business, not in ESG per se. we're expanding capacity in our utilities business not in esg per se We're ramping up our facility in Waukesha, Wisconsin, and we're adding about 20%-30% capacity over the next two years. we're ramping up our facility in waukesha wisconsin and we're adding about 20%-30% capacity over the next two years And some of that, roughly half of that will maybe slightly less than half of that will come online in 2026. and some of that roughly half of that will maybe slightly less than half of that will come online in 2026 And sorry, I forgot. and sorry i forgot What was the second part of your question? what was the second part of your question
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was really how is it split and what is the overall capacity increase that you're thinking of? Yeah. yeah It was really how is it split and what is the overall capacity increase that you're thinking of? it was really how is it split and what is the overall capacity increase that you're thinking of
Speaker 11: Yeah. So Utilities is the smaller segment within Environmental Solutions, and we're adding about 20%-30% over the next two years in Utilities. And the reason we feel that that's a justified investment is because I mentioned in my prepared remarks that we expect CapEx to grow 8%-15% for the next five years in Utilities just by the nature of upgrading the grid. And obviously, we sell and make products that will help upgrade the grid. So we expect that that market will be quite bullish for us for the next three to five years. Yeah. yeah So Utilities is the smaller segment within Environmental Solutions, and we're adding about 20%-30% over the next two years in Utilities. so utilities is the smaller segment within environmental solutions and we're adding about 20%-30% over the next two years in utilities And the reason we feel that that's a justified investment is because I mentioned in my prepared remarks that we expect CapEx to grow 8%-15% for the next five years in Utilities just by the nature of upgrading the grid. and the reason we feel that that's a justified investment is because i mentioned in my prepared remarks that we expect capex to grow 8%-15% for the next five years in utilities just by the nature of upgrading the grid And obviously, we sell and make products that will help upgrade the grid. and obviously we sell and make products that will help upgrade the grid So we expect that that market will be quite bullish for us for the next three to five years. so we expect that that market will be quite bullish for us for the next three to five years
Speaker 2: Makes sense. And then I guess in a second, I think you had said last year that you were looking at about $25 million of synergies from Environmental Solutions by the end of 2026. So just kind of curious where you are on that progress and if that $25 million+ number is still how you're thinking about it for the exit rate for this year. Makes sense. makes sense And then I guess in a second, I think you had said last year that you were looking at about $25 million of synergies from Environmental Solutions by the end of 2026. and then i guess in a second i think you had said last year that you were looking at about $25 million of synergies from environmental solutions by the end of 2026 So just kind of curious where you are on that progress and if that $25 million+ number is still how you're thinking about it for the exit rate for this year. so just kind of curious where you are on that progress and if that $25 million+ number is still how you're thinking about it for the exit rate for this year
Speaker 6: Yes. Hi. Good morning. Yes. We actually exited our first year of integrations above that $25 million of run-rate synergies. That's the reason why that even with the higher Utilities growth in 2026, that cost and unfavorable makes in terms of the margin, we're still able to hold the margin percentage due to the synergies dropping into 2026 within the Environmental Solutions segment. Yes. yes Hi. hi Good morning. good morning Yes. yes We actually exited our first year of integrations above that $25 million of run-rate synergies. we actually exited our first year of integrations above that $25 million of run-rate synergies That's the reason why that even with the higher Utilities growth in 2026, that cost and unfavorable makes in terms of the margin, we're still able to hold the margin percentage due to the synergies dropping into 2026 within the Environmental Solutions segment. that's the reason why that even with the higher utilities growth in 2026 that cost and unfavorable makes in terms of the margin we're still able to hold the margin percentage due to the synergies dropping into 2026 within the environmental solutions segment
Speaker 2: All right. Got it. Great. Thank you. All right. all right Got it. got it Great. great Thank you. thank you
Speaker 6: You're welcome. You're welcome. you're welcome
Speaker 11: Thanks. Thanks. thanks
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Speaker 8: Great. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on closing the REVG deal. I did want to just double-click on the ESG guidance a little bit. I mean, talking about flat guide, and I was thinking maybe that would imply that the OE sales portion of that could be down a little bit this year. So I'm curious just what should give investors confidence that this might just be a blip here in 2026 versus maybe the first year of a softening of this refuse recycling cycle? Great. great Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on closing the REVG deal. thanks for taking the question and congrats on closing the revg deal I did want to just double-click on the ESG guidance a little bit. i did want to just double-click on the esg guidance a little bit I mean, talking about flat guide, and I was thinking maybe that would imply that the OE sales portion of that could be down a little bit this year. i mean talking about flat guide and i was thinking maybe that would imply that the oe sales portion of that could be down a little bit this year So I'm curious just what should give investors confidence that this might just be a blip here in 2026 versus maybe the first year of a softening of this refuse recycling cycle? so i'm curious just what should give investors confidence that this might just be a blip here in 2026 versus maybe the first year of a softening of this refuse recycling cycle
Speaker 11: Yeah. Just so we're aligned here, we're guiding mid-single-digit growth for Environmental Solutions as a whole. And then ESG within that environmental solution, we're guiding flat for 2026, excluding potential pre-buys in the second half of 2026 that would be upside to the guide. So yeah, we see that end market as fairly non-cyclical. We actually see continued growth going into 2030. The only reason we see ESG within Environmental Solutions kind of slowing down the growth rate a little bit is just because we're caught up on lead times. We're now back to largely being a book-to-bill business, which is where we were before COVID. So we don't take that as a leading indicator that the business might be peaking. It's quite the contrary. Yeah. yeah Just so we're aligned here, we're guiding mid-single-digit growth for Environmental Solutions as a whole. just so we're aligned here we're guiding mid-single-digit growth for environmental solutions as a whole And then ESG within that environmental solution, we're guiding flat for 2026, excluding potential pre-buys in the second half of 2026 that would be upside to the guide. and then esg within that environmental solution we're guiding flat for 2026 excluding potential pre-buys in the second half of 2026 that would be upside to the guide So yeah, we see that end market as fairly non-cyclical. so yeah we see that end market as fairly non-cyclical We actually see continued growth going into 2030. we actually see continued growth going into 2030 The only reason we see ESG within Environmental Solutions kind of slowing down the growth rate a little bit is just because we're caught up on lead times. the only reason we see esg within environmental solutions kind of slowing down the growth rate a little bit is just because we're caught up on lead times We're now back to largely being a book-to-bill business, which is where we were before COVID. we're now back to largely being a book-to-bill business which is where we were before covid So we don't take that as a leading indicator that the business might be peaking. so we don't take that as a leading indicator that the business might be peaking It's quite the contrary. it's quite the contrary We think that that business has a lot of upside and for more reasons than just GDP growth. There's also fleet modernization going on. There is all sorts of new technology going into that space. So we see multiple angles for growth in that segment. We think that that business has a lot of upside and for more reasons than just GDP growth. we think that that business has a lot of upside and for more reasons than just gdp growth There's also fleet modernization going on. there's also fleet modernization going on There is all sorts of new technology going into that space. there is all sorts of new technology going into that space So we see multiple angles for growth in that segment. so we see multiple angles for growth in that segment
Speaker 8: Great. Then just a couple of questions on Aerials. Sounds like you're planning some pricing for 2026. Just would be good to hear how those negotiations have gone as you're entering 2026 with the customers. Then just a quick one, just anything to call out in your mix in 2026 versus 2025 as far as nationals versus independents? Thank you. Great. great Then just a couple of questions on Aerials. then just a couple of questions on aerials Sounds like you're planning some pricing for 2026. sounds like you're planning some pricing for 2026 Just would be good to hear how those negotiations have gone as you're entering 2026 with the customers. just would be good to hear how those negotiations have gone as you're entering 2026 with the customers Then just a quick one, just anything to call out in your mix in 2026 versus 2025 as far as nationals versus independents? then just a quick one just anything to call out in your mix in 2026 versus 2025 as far as nationals versus independents Thank you. thank you
Speaker 11: Yeah. So for 2026, we continue to see most demand coming from replacement in North America and in Europe, and mostly from the mega projects. We did not bake in any kind of meaningful recovery in local private construction spend in 2026. We see that more happening in 2027. Fleet utilization is up year-over-year. Our national customers are quite bullish for the next couple of years because of the mega projects alone. But the real uplift for this segment will come when local and private construction comes back up. And we see that happening in 2027 and not in 2026. So that's why the guide is kind of a little bit of moving sideways here because of the private construction spend not picking up until 2027. Yeah. yeah So for 2026, we continue to see most demand coming from replacement in North America and in Europe, and mostly from the mega projects. so for 2026 we continue to see most demand coming from replacement in north america and in europe and mostly from the mega projects We did not bake in any kind of meaningful recovery in local private construction spend in 2026. we did not bake in any kind of meaningful recovery in local private construction spend in 2026 We see that more happening in 2027. we see that more happening in 2027 Fleet utilization is up year- over- year. fleet utilization is up year- over- year Our national customers are quite bullish for the next couple of years because of the mega projects alone. our national customers are quite bullish for the next couple of years because of the mega projects alone But the real uplift for this segment will come when local and private construction comes back up. but the real uplift for this segment will come when local and private construction comes back up And we see that happening in 2027 and not in 2026. and we see that happening in 2027 and not in 2026 So that's why the guide is kind of a little bit of moving sideways here because of the private construction spend not picking up until 2027. so that's why the guide is kind of a little bit of moving sideways here because of the private construction spend not picking up until 2027
Speaker 8: Thank you. Thank you. thank you
Speaker 11: Thank you. Thank you. thank you
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Speaker 12: Thanks. Good morning. Thanks. thanks Good morning. good morning
Speaker 11: Morning. Morning. morning
Speaker 12: Simon, on slide four in the emergency vehicle section, there's a note that says there's a mandated replacement cycle. What category of vehicles is that, and what percentage of the fleet turns over annually because of mandates? Simon, on slide four in the emergency vehicle section, there's a note that says there's a mandated replacement cycle. simon on slide four in the emergency vehicle section there's a note that says there's a mandated replacement cycle What category of vehicles is that, and what percentage of the fleet turns over annually because of mandates? what category of vehicles is that and what percentage of the fleet turns over annually because of mandates
Speaker 11: That's a good catch. I think that it's every 10 years. I think you're talking refuse. That's a good catch. that's a good catch I think that it's every 10 years. i think that it's every 10 years I think you're talking refuse. i think you're talking refuse
Speaker 12: Does emergency vehicles? Does emergency vehicles? does emergency vehicles
Speaker 11: Emergency vehicles. Let me just look that up on slide four in the footnotes. Emergency vehicles. emergency vehicles Let me just look that up on slide four in the footnotes. let me just look that up on slide four in the footnotes
Speaker 12: Let me get back there. Yeah. Emergency vehicles, so the leftmost box, the second bullet, large installed base with a consistent and mandated replacement cycle? Let me get back there. let me get back there Yeah. yeah Emergency vehicles, so the leftmost box, the second bullet, large installed base with a consistent and mandated replacement cycle? emergency vehicles so the leftmost box the second bullet large installed base with a consistent and mandated replacement cycle
Speaker 11: Oh, oh, I'm sorry. I got you now. I was looking in the footnotes. You're talking on the slide. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So obviously, fleet needs to stay fresh, and there is a mandated replacement cycle. There's not a real number tied to it per se, but yeah, within emergency vehicles, municipalities want to keep their fleet with the maximum uptime possible, and that's why they have specific kind of goals and targets around their replacement cycle. That's what that means. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. oh oh i'm sorry I got you now. i got you now I was looking in the footnotes. i was looking in the footnotes You're talking on the slide. you're talking on the slide Okay. okay Got it. got it Yeah. yeah Yeah. yeah yeah Yeah. yeah So obviously, fleet needs to stay fresh, and there is a mandated replacement cycle. so obviously fleet needs to stay fresh and there is a mandated replacement cycle There's not a real number tied to it per se, but yeah, within emergency vehicles, municipalities want to keep their fleet with the maximum uptime possible, and that's why they have specific kind of goals and targets around their replacement cycle. there's not a real number tied to it per se but yeah within emergency vehicles municipalities want to keep their fleet with the maximum uptime possible and that's why they have specific kind of goals and targets around their replacement cycle That's what that means. that's what that means
Speaker 12: Okay. And I know it's really early in owning REV, but you are maintaining leadership there. So my question is, just given the size of the backlog and where lead times in the industry are, do you see a path to accelerating production which can result in a higher growth rate, maybe not this year, but as you look into 2027 and 2028? Okay. okay And I know it's really early in owning REV, but you are maintaining leadership there. and i know it's really early in owning rev but you are maintaining leadership there So my question is, just given the size of the backlog and where lead times in the industry are, do you see a path to accelerating production which can result in a higher growth rate, maybe not this year, but as you look into 2027 and 2028? so my question is just given the size of the backlog and where lead times in the industry are do you see a path to accelerating production which can result in a higher growth rate maybe not this year but as you look into 2027 and 2028
Speaker 11: Yeah. I mean, the industry is obviously investing in adding capacity and optimizing throughput as it should because backlogs need to come down. I mean, they're at two years+. Bookings continue to be strong. And so just to make sure that we, as an industry, keep working on bringing our backlogs down, we're investing in capacity, and so are we. Our main location in Florida and our location in South Dakota, we're investing in capacity expansions and capacity upgrades. And so we think that kind of the sustainable target for backlog coverage is about a year, but it might take another two years or so before we get to that kind of backlog level. But yeah, bringing down the backlog is what the focus is right now, and that will lead to a year-over-year growth. Yeah. yeah I mean, the industry is obviously investing in adding capacity and optimizing throughput as it should because backlogs need to come down. i mean the industry is obviously investing in adding capacity and optimizing throughput as it should because backlogs need to come down I mean, they're at two years +. i mean they're at two years + Bookings continue to be strong. bookings continue to be strong And so just to make sure that we, as an industry, keep working on bringing our backlogs down, we're investing in capacity, and so are we. and so just to make sure that we as an industry keep working on bringing our backlogs down we're investing in capacity and so are we Our main location in Florida and our location in South Dakota, we're investing in capacity expansions and capacity upgrades. our main location in florida and our location in south dakota we're investing in capacity expansions and capacity upgrades And so we think that kind of the sustainable target for backlog coverage is about a year, but it might take another two years or so before we get to that kind of backlog level. and so we think that kind of the sustainable target for backlog coverage is about a year but it might take another two years or so before we get to that kind of backlog level But yeah, bringing down the backlog is what the focus is right now, and that will lead to a year-over-year growth. but yeah bringing down the backlog is what the focus is right now and that will lead to a year-over-year growth
Speaker 12: Yeah. So, right. So is it possible that business could grow in double digits, assuming orders hold up and the backlog coverage is there, while you try and bring those lead times down? And again, not this year necessarily, but at some point. Yeah. yeah so So, right. so right So is it possible that business could grow in double digits, assuming orders hold up and the backlog coverage is there, while you try and bring those lead times down? so is it possible that business could grow in double digits assuming orders hold up and the backlog coverage is there while you try and bring those lead times down And again, not this year necessarily, but at some point. and again not this year necessarily but at some point
Speaker 11: Yeah. For now, we are already ahead of Specialty Vehicles as a segment is already ahead of their Investor Day kind of commitment. And so we don't want to count ourselves too rich here. We're guiding high single digits, and we think that that's probably a more realistic outlook, and that's what we're guiding today. Yeah. yeah For now, we are already ahead of Specialty Vehicles as a segment is already ahead of their Investor Day kind of commitment. for now we are already ahead of specialty vehicles as a segment is already ahead of their investor day kind of commitment And so we don't want to count ourselves too rich here. and so we don't want to count ourselves too rich here We're guiding high single digits, and we think that that's probably a more realistic outlook, and that's what we're guiding today. we're guiding high single digits and we think that that's probably a more realistic outlook and that's what we're guiding today
Speaker 12: Understood. Thanks. Understood. understood Thanks. thanks
Speaker 11: Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. yeah Thank you. thank you
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