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Simpson Manufacturing Co., Inc. — Call Transcript 2026
Apr 27, 2026
Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Kim Orlando, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Simpson Manufacturing Company. First quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Any statements made on this call that are not statements of historical fact are forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on certain estimates and expectations and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual future results may vary materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. We encourage you to read the risks described in the company's public filings and reports, which are available on the SEC's or the company's corporate website. Except to the extent required by applicable securities laws, we undertake no obligation to update or publicly revise any of the forward-looking statements that we make here today, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. On this call, we will also refer to non-GAAP measures, such as adjusted EBITDA, which is reconciled to the most comparable GAAP measure of net income in the company's earnings press release. Please note that the earnings press release was issued today at approximately 4:15 P.M. Eastern Time. The earnings press release is available on the investor relations page of the company's website at ir.simpsonmfg.com. Today's call is being webcast, and a replay will also be available on the investor relations page of the company's website. Now, I would like to turn the conference over to Michael Olosky, Simpson's President and Chief Executive Officer. Thanks, Kim. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to today's call. With me is Matt Dunn, our Chief Financial Officer. As we begin, I'd like to step back and briefly anchor our performance this quarter in the broader ambitions that guide how we build and grow Simpson. Across the organization, we remain focused on being the partner of choice for our customers and innovation leader in the markets we serve and strengthening our values-based culture, all while delivering strong financial performance. We are making meaningful progress on these ambitions despite continued market challenges. A defining hallmark of our values-based culture is a depth of experience and long-term commitment across our organization. As we celebrate our 70th year as a company, that continuity matters. It reflects a culture that has allowed us to perform, adapt, and grow through many different construction cycles. Throughout the year, we'll be highlighting employees whose long-term dedication and impact reflect the values and culture that have defined Simpson for seven decades. I'd like to take a moment to recognize a few members of our team. First is Cheryl Wyatt, Plant Director for our Southeast operations. She is celebrating 42 years with Simpson. Cheryl started her career in our customer service organization, gaining first-hand insight into our customers and how we support them. She advanced through several manufacturing and operation roles and today leads our highest volume and most cost-effective manufacturing facility. I'd also like to recognize Cyndi Chandler. Cyndi started her career with Simpson in Texas and has spent 41 years with the company. She currently leads our business in the United Kingdom, where she made meaningful profitability improvements. Over her career, she has consistently led teams through complex change, from reshaping our U.S. national accounts approach to launching operations in Chile, and most recently, successfully strengthening our customer relationships across the U.K. Finally, I'd like to recognize our brothers, Genaro and John Sid from our Southwest operations. With 48 and 42 years of service, respectively, Genaro and John bring a combined 90 years of experience spanning production planning, leadership, and quoting. They are a great example of the deep operational knowledge and customer focus that underscore what makes us unique. These are just a few examples of the people behind the results, and we're grateful for the experience, leadership, and commitment they bring to work every day. Now turning to our financial results. We delivered net sales of $588 million, up 9.1% from the prior year quarter. As outlined in our investor presentation, net sales growth was primarily driven by our 2025 pricing actions, which contributed approximately 6% and foreign exchange of approximately 3%. These gains were partially offset by an approximate 1% decline in volume as a result of softer housing start activity during the quarter. In North America, net sales were $461.9 million, up 9.8% from the prior year quarter, including a $31 million benefit from pricing actions. As we look across our North American business, performance remains mixed by market segment and varies by geography, consistent with broader construction trends. However, we continue to see areas of resilience and growth where our strategy, business model, and customer relationships position us well. The component manufacturer business delivered a strong quarter with volumes up double digits, driven primarily by new customer wins. This business continues to represent one of our most attractive long-term growth opportunities. Even amid broader residential housing softness, customer engagement remains solid, particularly around productivity-enhancing solutions. Truss manufacturers remain focused on labor efficiency, throughput, and operational visibility, resulting in increased demand for our solutions across software, plates, equipment, and design services. We are making great progress in expanding and enhancing our offerings with value-added functionality. We are also improving our ability to respond quickly with new software features as customers' needs evolve. Adoption of our solutions continues to advance, strengthening our role as a strategic partner to our component manufacturing customers. The OEM business delivered another strong quarter with double-digit volume growth. This segment remains in an area of relative strength and strategic importance, supported by long-term trends toward prefabrication and off-site construction methods, including engineered wood systems and mass timber. While project timing can vary, customer engagement remains high, and our pipeline of opportunities continues to build. Our ability to pair innovative products with deep engineering expertise, testing capabilities, and field support remains a key differentiator. As customers pursue increasingly complex performance-driven projects, we believe our OEM segment is well-positioned to grow faster than the broader construction market over time. Our residential business volume increased modestly year-over-year, supported by continued cross-selling of connectors, fasteners, and anchoring solutions. While builders are focused on cost control, cycle time reduction, and lowering inventory levels, we renewed builder agreements, launched new products, and increased our service offerings to support both our builders and our LBM partners. These initiatives, combined with high service level across the industry's broadest and deepest product line, have enabled us to perform relatively well in a market pressured by soft housing starts. In our commercial business, first quarter volumes were down slightly year-over-year, reflecting mixed construction activity by segment and geography. Demand for cold-formed steel and anchoring systems remains relatively resilient. Customers continue to value our technical expertise, project coordination, broad portfolio of code compliance solutions, and reliable product availability on large, complex projects, particularly where early engagement helps reduce risk and improve execution. While overall activity remains uneven, our differentiated capabilities position us well for continued share gains. Our national retail business experienced low single-digit decline in shipments, while point-of-sale volumes declined in the mid-single digits versus the prior year. The retail environment remains competitive and reflective of broader housing and repair and renovation trends, with customers remaining value-focused and selective in discretionary spending. Our teams remain focused on disciplined execution, strong in-store support, and close collaboration with retail partners to optimize merchandising. We continue to make progress through bay optimization initiatives, targeted product innovation, and the expansion of decorative hardware via our Outdoor Accents offerings. While near-term volumes remain pressured, our emphasis on service, reliability, and in-market execution continues to strengthen retail relationships and support long-term growth opportunities. In summary, while near-term market conditions remain difficult, our diversified portfolio, strong customer relationships, and focus on engineering and value-added solutions resulted in solid performance across the North American business. In Europe, first quarter net sales totaled $121 million, up 6.3% year-over-year, driven by foreign currency translation. On a local currency basis, net sales were down 5.4%, with the decline in volumes partly offset by price increases. The market has been off to a slow start this year, but we continue to expect flat to low single-digit market growth over the next couple of years. Even in this environment, we've had several meaningful customer wins, including multiple mass timber projects. We also made progress improving profitability in select countries and continue to optimize our footprint to support long-term performance. While our raw material positions remain strong, we are seeing input cost headwinds that have required us to pass through surcharges and price increases. Taken together, these dynamics reinforce our confidence in our ability to continue improving profitability in Europe. Our consolidated gross margin declined 130 basis points year-over-year to 45.2%, driven by higher material, factory, tooling, and labor costs as a percentage of net sales, including startup costs from the ongoing ramp of our Gallatin facility that opened late last year. Our 2025 price increases, which we now expect will contribute approximately $130 million in annualized net sales, helped offset these costs, including those attributable to tariffs. Gross margin was also negatively affected by product mix, partially offset by our productivity initiatives. Our operating margin was 19.5%, up 50 basis points year-over-year, which included one-time costs of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $139.4 million, a 14.1% increase year-over-year. As outlined in our last call, our financial ambitions remain, one, driving above-market volume growth relative to U.S. housing starts, two, maintaining an operating income margin at or above 20%, and three, consistently driving EPS growth ahead of net sales growth. In summary, our first quarter results reflect disciplined pricing and cost management, reinforced by strong execution and an unwavering focus on supporting our customers. As we look ahead, we expect conditions in both the U.S. and Europe to remain challenging, and we do not anticipate sustaining the same level of revenue growth through the remainder of the year. As for our outlook on the markets, we now believe 2026 housing starts in the United States will be down low single digits compared to 2025, and in Europe, we expect flat to modest growth in the market for 2026. Looking ahead, our culture, customer focus, innovation, and financial discipline position us well to execute and maintain a strong competitive position. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Matt, who will discuss our financial results and outlook in greater detail. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us on our earnings call today. As we celebrate our 70th year as a company, I'd like to echo Mike's comments and extend our gratitude to our many long-standing employees who have made Simpson the company it is today. I'd also like to mention that unless otherwise stated, all financial measures discussed in my prepared remarks refer to the first quarter of 2026, and all comparisons will be year-over-year comparisons versus the first quarter of 2025. Now turning to our results. Consolidated net sales grew 9.1% to $588 million. In the North America segment, net sales rose 9.8% to $461.9 million. Europe delivered a 6.3% increase in net sales to $121 million, driven by $13.2 million in favorable foreign currency translation and price increases, which were partially offset by lower sales volumes, partly from adverse weather conditions across the region. Globally, wood construction product sales were up 8.3%, and concrete construction product sales were up 14.7% as a larger percentage of these products are imported and included in tariff-driven price increases. Consolidated gross profit increased 6.1% to $265.9 million, resulting in a gross margin of 45.2%, down 130 basis points. In North America, gross margin was 47.8%, below the 49.8% reported in the prior year, reflecting the impact from tariffs and higher factory overhead and labor costs as a percentage of net sales, along with some unfavorable product mix in the quarter. As Mike noted, startup costs in our Gallatin facility represented an approximate 100 basis points headwind to our first quarter gross margin, which we expect to moderate as we progress through the year. In Europe, gross margin increased to 36.3% from 35.2%, driven by higher pricing and lower material costs, partly offset by higher factory and tooling costs as a percentage of net sales. From a product perspective, our gross margin was relatively flat at approximately 46% for wood products. For concrete products, gross margin was 40.2% compared to 49.5% a year ago, with the decrease due to tariffs, partly offset by recent pricing actions. Now turning to expenses. As a percentage of net sales, first quarter operating expenses were 25.6%, an improvement from 27.5% last year. SG&A headcount was down approximately 9.1% year-over-year, which reduced personnel-related costs. In total, operating expenses increased 1.7% to $150.7 million, driven primarily by $4.2 million of foreign currency translation and one-time cost in Q1 2026 of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives. These increases were largely offset by lower professional fees and variable incentive compensation. To further detail our SG&A, our research and development and engineering expenses decreased by 6.1% to $18.6 million on lower personnel cost due to less headcount and footprint optimization. Selling expenses were relatively flat at $54.5 million as a result of our strategic cost savings initiatives. On a segment basis, selling expenses in North America were down 3.3%, and in Europe, they were up 11.9%, primarily due to FX. General and administrative expenses increased by 4.5% to $77.6 million due to one-time cost of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives. As a result, our consolidated income from operations totaled $114.6 million, an increase of 12% from $102.3 million. Our consolidated operating income margin was 19.5%, up from 19.0% last year. In North America, income from operations increased by 12.8% to $118.3 million due to higher net sales on reduced operating expenses. Our operating income margin in North America was 25.6% compared to 24.9% last year. In Europe, income from operations decreased 23.8% to $7.1 million due to lower volumes. Our operating income margin in Europe was 5.9% compared to 8.2% last year. Our effective tax rate was 24.1%, approximately 140 basis points below the prior year period. Accordingly, net income totaled $88.2 million or $2.13 per fully diluted share compared to $77.9 million or $1.85 per fully diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA was $139.4 million, an increase of 14.1%, resulting in a margin of 23.7%. Now turning to our balance sheet and liquidity. As of March 31st, 2026, we had $74.2 million drawn on the revolver, resulting in $525.8 million of remaining availability. Our debt balance was $370.5 million, down $3.8 million from December 31st, 2025, and cash and cash equivalents totaled $341 million, resulting in a net debt position of $29.5 million. Our inventory position as of March 31st, 2026, was $549 million, which was down $45.2 million compared to December 31st, 2025. Pounds of inventory on hand in North America were down double digits, with a nearly double-digit increase in cost per pound, driven primarily by raw materials. We generated cash flow from operations of $35.9 million for the first quarter. Our capital allocation strategy remains focused on both supporting growth and delivering returns to our stockholders. In Q1, we invested $17.7 million in the capital expenditures, returned $12 million in dividends to our stockholders, and repurchased $50 million of our common stock. As announced in October, the board authorized a new share repurchase program for 2026, permitting the repurchase of up to $150 million of our shares through year-end 2026. This authorization underscores our confidence in the long-term prospects of the business and our ongoing commitment to returning capital to shareholders. Next, I'll turn to our 2026 financial outlook. Based on business trends and conditions as of today, April 27th, 2026, our guidance for the full year ending December 31st, 2026, is as follows. We continue to expect our consolidated operating margin to be in the range of 19.5%-20.5%. Additional key assumptions include our outlook for U.S. housing starts to be down in the low single-digit range, a lower overall gross margin based on imposed tariffs and increased depreciation costs, a higher realization of the annualized contribution from our 2025 price increases, an expected $3 million-$5 million of footprint optimization costs in Europe, and a projected $10 million-$12 million benefit on the sale of vacant land in the back half of 2026. Our effective tax rate is estimated to be in the range of 25%-26%, including both federal and state income tax rates based on current tax laws. Finally, our capital expenditures outlook is expected to be in the range of $75 million-$85 million. In summary, we delivered solid results in the first quarter with growth in net sales, EBITDA, and operating margin despite a housing market that remains challenged. Pricing actions are contributing as expected and are projected to add roughly $130 million in annualized net sales, helping offset some tariff-related cost pressures. Overall, while we were pleased with our Q1 results, we do not expect this level of revenue growth to carry through the remainder of the year, given our tempered outlook for the housing market in 2026 and the timing of 2025 price increases. We remain focused on disciplined capital deployment and our commitment to return at least 35% of free cash flow to shareholders. With that, I will now turn the call over to the operator to begin the Q&A session. Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For a participant choosing speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question is from Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. Please proceed. Thank you. Good afternoon, Matt, and good afternoon, Mike. Appreciate all the color. Congrats on the quarter. I guess we'll start with you know, the modest change in expectations around housing starts for the year. No, it's certainly not a surprise. I realize we're talking weeks, not months, but just talk about the sort of cadence of demand and volumes in North America that we've seen since the start of the war in Iran and spiking oil prices. Just wondering if you know, what sort of impact you're seeing in real-time and you know, how do you kinda see that playing out as we look through you know, to the remainder of Q2? Hello, Dan. Thanks for the question. We started coming into this year thinking the market was gonna be roughly flat. As you know, the census data is a little bit delayed. When we look at the market, Dan, we're doing two things. We're getting basically feedback from six, seven different firms on how the year's gonna play out. Consensus from those six or seven firms is kind of low single-digit number. We're certainly cross-checking that with a lot of our customers. What we hear from the customers in the spring, it's been a bit of a soft selling season, which kinda confirms that low single-digit market growth rate expected for the year. Very helpful. In terms of pricing, you know, Q4 about a 5%-6% benefit, again, 6% benefit this quarter. Have you taken or contemplated any additional price increases, given continued inflationary pressures? And as we think about the impact of pricing in Q2 as well as back half of the year, I know you mentioned kind of a $130 million all-in. Just any comments on cadence is certainly helpful. Thank you. Yeah, Dan. When we look at pricing going forward in Europe, we are seeing rising inputs in a lot of different areas. We have started doing the surcharges and done some price increases there, which we mentioned in our prepared remarks. We're certainly experiencing some rising costs across other parts of our business in North America. We're working really hard to take costs out and try to drive productivity with the expectation that we maintain our gross margins over the longer period of time. Yeah. Dan, this is Matt. Just to answer your specific question, we haven't taken any additional price increases in North America beyond the two that we announced last year. Again, as we look forward, we're seeing those cost increases, whether it be fuel or potentially steel, but haven't contemplated or announced anything. We're just really, you know, focused on, you know, maintaining and kind of preserving our growth margins. You know, we potentially have to look at that if things change, but right now, nothing in the works. Okay. Taking a step back from the macro, you know, good color and detail about, you know, increased penetration, particularly in some of those newer end markets, truss, some of the, you know, the outdoor decorative. Just, you know, if you wanna sort of dig in and give a little bit more color in terms of how things are progressing from a share gain perspective and what your expectations are for sort of outpacing the housing starts for the year from a volume perspective, assuming it does come in in that low single-digit range? Yeah. Again, Dan, let me start with the market just one more time. Again, delay in the census data, so we're not exactly sure how the first part of the year's played out. We're gonna get, I think, the first round of data in another couple of weeks, so that'll give us a little bit of a better feel. We do believe we are slightly ahead of the market based on off of the trailing twelve months. When we look at driving above-market growth, it comes back to those market playbooks that we have around those five market segments. We also have product playbooks all around trying to drive innovation, drive new customer gains, get additional shelf space, and get more content on the houses. When we look at some things we're particularly excited about, again, the component manufacturing business growing double-digit. Again, new customer wins there. We're very happy with how the truss business is developing. The Producer Tool has been out in the market for a while. It is cloud-based, so we've already been able to do multiple releases to respond quickly to some customer needs and questions around it. We're still feeling pretty confident about our Director and new design tool that's gonna be rolled out later this year. We're actively using AI to help us develop new software and new quality assurance in the truss space, so we're feeling pretty good about that, and we're getting, again, good feedback from our customers. In the OEM segment, you know, we've been talking about mass timber for a while. These mass timber jobs just keep getting bigger and bigger, and they want a broad set of solutions from us that we're able to offer, and the Gallatin facility is gonna help us respond quicker. We've done some other things to help us do really these high-strength, heavy-duty, connectors packages for some of these big mass timber buildings out of our Riverside facility, and we're happy with the progress we've made there. Again, we're feeling good about it. At the end of the day, we wanna make sure that we're driving above market growth at that 20% operating income level. Great to hear. Last one, just a housekeeping. I think you said timing around the gain on sale of land H2. Has that been pushed out at all? Just trying to get a sense from a modeling perspective. Thanks again. Yeah. Dan, this is Matt. It's definitely gonna be in the back half. It's been, you know, included in our guidance for the year. We didn't specify a quarter when we gave guidance three months ago, but we've got more visibility now that it's gonna be in the back half. TBD whether it's Q3 or Q4. We'll try to refine that, you know, once we get closer. Super. Appreciate the color. I'll jump back with any follow-ups. Okay. Our next question is from Trey Grooms with Stephens. Please proceed. Hey, good afternoon, Mike and Matt. Hope you're doing well. Hey, Trey. Hey, Trey. Congrats on the quarter. Nice showing. Oh, yeah, you bet. Thanks for the color on the outlook you gave on housing. Makes a lot of sense. But how are you thinking about some of the other end markets? Sorry if I missed this, but are you still expecting demand, you know, for commercial to be kind of flattish? You kinda look into retail or you know, R&R for that to be you know, kind of flat to up a little bit? Any changes there? Yeah. When we look at our end markets, we're looking at several firms that help us get the U.S. housing starts number. That's the low single-digit range. When we look at the market numbers for residential, the national retail business or repair and renovation, when we look at that particular area, we're thinking basically flattish to maybe up 1%-ish in that range. In the commercial area, we're looking at starts, and we have a firm that helps us with that. There we're thinking low single-digit range. Then our OEM business, we really just kind of benchmark that versus the IPI, and that we expect to be low single digits. Yep. Okay. Got it. No real change there. Maybe looking at, you know, geographically, I know you guys have seen some, you know, some mixed headwinds, I guess, geographically, some mixed headwinds from some underperformance in California and Florida, I guess, over the last few years. It sounds like some of the commentary we're hearing from out there in the market from home builders, et cetera. It sounds like Florida might be recovering somewhat. Anyway, any details maybe you guys could give us on what you're seeing geographically and maybe some of this, you know, mixed headwind, if you will, kind of starting to subside if Florida's starting to pick up. Yeah, Trey, good question. If we talk about just market specific, the state level data on starts is, there's a lot of variability depending upon the sources you look at. If you just look big picture, Florida and California, they are down significantly from their peak housing starts about three years ago. When we look at our business in California, a lot of engineering into it, especially from a seismic perspective. We continue to talk with customers that are saying they've got a strong backlog. A lot of projects are about ready to get kicked off in that area. But we have not yet started to realize that in our sales revenue. In Florida, from what we've seen, really no significant change for us at this point, and it's still a little soft. Okay. All right. Sounds great. Keeping to some degree, maybe Matt, on the inventories down, you know, pretty significantly in the quarter, just by some, you know, you had some good sales improvements, actually stepped down sequentially. I understand that you guys usually build some inventory in the 1Q and then kind of work it down in seasonally stronger quarters. Any color you could give us on kind of how we should be thinking about that, given it's kinda, you know, lower level as we're kinda entering the building season, how we should be thinking about that seasonal trend? Sure, Trey. I mean, we're doing a lot of work to drive productivity on, you know, finished good and work in process inventory, and so that's playing out a little bit. When you look at our inventory drop in dollars, it shows up in pounds even more broadly. As you think about the cost of things is more expensive, so it doesn't quite show up in the dollars to the level it shows up in the pounds. We're down quite significantly on pounds. I would say the bulk of that drop, though, is really on the raw material side, so think of steel and steel coils. As we're kinda working through the inventory there, as you know, we tend to buy kind of in lumpier chunks when the market you know meets our needs and kind of a sweet spot for where we wanna be. It's gonna be a little bit lumpy on the raw material steel, and those prices are starting to move a little bit as we look forward. I would expect that, you know, we'll probably bump back up a little bit on raw material throughout the course of the year, but at the same time, we're working on productivity on the finished goods and the work in process, so it may be a somewhat little bit offset, but hopefully, certainly not back to the peak we were on pounds. On dollars, it's a little bit tougher to say because the price per pound is going up. I think where we kinda started, 2026, would be sort of like a high watermark, and it would probably stay below that. Got it. Okay. That's it for me. Thanks a lot, and I'll pass it on. Best of luck. Thanks, Trey. Our next question is from Kurt Yinger with D.A. Davidson. Please proceed. Great. Thanks. Just wanted to go back to pricing. Can you just talk a little bit about kind of the difference between the new $130 million versus the $100 million previously? Is that, I guess, just an updated view on what you'll capture, or does that encapsulate maybe some of these surcharges and whatnot you've discussed in Europe? Yeah, Kurt, this is Matt. Your previous guidance was about $100 million annualized. If you recall from our previous quarter release, we realized about $60 million of that in 2025, which would have implied, you know, additional $40 million in 2026. We're upping the annualized number to $130 million, so that would imply, you know, $70 million in 2026 incremental. It's a combination of some of the pricing we've enacted in Europe, you know, particularly related to the surcharges, but also some price increases. A little bit of product mix in North America, which is driving more pricing. If you think about the products that had higher price increases, that's primarily fasteners and anchors. You know, they're continuing to grow a little bit faster than the connector business, which provides some additional dollars when you just look at the pricing impact. Doesn't necessarily drive better gross margin or better op income, but when you look at pricing quantification on dollars realized from pricing, it does benefit there. It's really a combination of those two things that's kinda upped it to that $130 number. Okay. That makes a whole lot of sense. I appreciate that. Just on the cost side, I mean, it doesn't sound like the change in Section 232 tariffs is really having any impact on you guys, but I would appreciate it if you just touched on that. As well as, you know, on the freight side with the self-distribution angle, how is, you know, transportation and freight costs, I guess, shared among you guys and customers? Is that a situation similar to Europe where there are surcharges, but those are just passed along? Can you talk a little bit about that? Yeah, you're right. On the Section 232 tariffs, the announcements that came out, I think, early April, don't really have much of an impact for us. The tariffs that we were paying are pretty much staying the same. If you think about the fuel rates and things that are impacting surcharges there, I mean, we're seeing it some from our suppliers, you know, passing along surcharges, changing rates, you know, weekly sometimes. A lot of our shipments travel prepaid freight, so we have not put any surcharges in place. So, from time to time, we have to adjust the amount of, you know, a purchase that is able to travel with prepaid freight for free. So, meaning sometimes you have to up the minimum purchase. I don't believe we've done any of that yet, but that's some of the things that we're considering. We are seeing an impact in our 2026 outlook from increased fuel costs. We haven't acted on passing any of that through, but we're kinda actively monitoring it and, you know, kinda see where it shakes out, what level it goes to, and then evaluate the best way to, again, try to make sure that we're preserving our gross margin. Okay. Got it. Then just on the volume side, I mean, a really good quarter for the North American residential business it seems. Is there anything to call out there that might have been, you know, a transitory boost? Maybe looking at the full year, I mean, sounds like you kind of trimmed the expectations for housing starts. If we look at the comps, you know, the first half is very difficult, gets easier in the back half. Just given the positive performance here in Q1, I guess, is there any reason to believe that wouldn't be sustainable just as comps get a little bit easier? Kurt, we're very pleased with the development our residential business team has made. We continue to leverage the business model, and with that shift we made about three years ago of going from a product-focused sales team to a market-focused sales team, that's enabled us to really cross-sell the complete product line. We've continued to develop our warehouse network so that we're closer to customers, and we can make sure that we get to a very large percentage of our customers. They place an order today in the morning, we ship it in the afternoon, they get it the next day. I think all that added up, Kurt, just continue to get more content on houses and pick up more shelf space with our lumberyards and pro dealer customers. Yeah, Kurt, I think as you look at your comments around back half comps and things, certainly our volume comps get a little bit easier in the back half when you compare it to what we did in the last half of last year. Also, you know, including a little bit of expectation that the market is, you know, potentially gonna be a little softer as we go throughout 2026 as we kinda updated our guidance. I mean, part of the challenge now is we're flying a little bit blind on what is the market doing because there's been delays in reporting and, you know, even going back to 2025 actuals, I think they're still subject to revision from the Census Bureau later this week when they publish the February and March starts numbers. We believe we're outperforming the market a little bit on volume. We certainly expect to continue to do that, but you know, what that market's gonna look like quarter on quarter that we're comparing to is a little bit up in the air, as we kinda gotta see where we shake out here in the first quarter, and we get the numbers and see where we were. You know, the outlook for the year has gotten a little bit worse from our perspective, kind of backed up by you know, most of the market forecasters out there. They're saying it's gonna be a little bit softer in 2026. Okay. That makes sense. Just lastly, on the national retail side, the weakness there, it seemed like over 25, there were some points where sell-in didn't necessarily match sell-through, but POS has kinda turned now. Do you think that's just a function of the overall project environment in a lot of the categories that you're serving or more so maybe a skew to customers going with, you know, a more value-sensitive approach in terms of products? I guess, any thoughts on kind of the performance there early this year? I wouldn't say that that we're seeing a shift in the value performance story. Kurt, if somebody's coming into one of the national retail customers, especially a pro, I mean, they know exactly what products they're looking for. I wouldn't necessarily say that. I think we've had some time over the last probably six months, where point of sale data and our sales into the national retailers was a little bit disconnected. It's kinda flipped and gone the opposite way in the first quarter. We continue to work with them to help them develop the business by merchandising activities. We continue to push our outdoor living solutions product line, which has had pretty good growth over several years now. We're working hard with the pro desks with our national retail customers. We've provided some estimating services, and we're doing other things to help them really cross-sell the full product line. We think over time, that'll all play out in the short term. We do occasionally see some inventory shifts with those guys, and that's been reflected in the numbers the last six months or so. Yeah. I think, Kurt, just to add, I think just to cap it off, I think it's good to see that trend reverse a little bit in terms of sell-in versus sell-out. We'd seen, you know, several quarters in a row where, you know, our POS units were quite a bit better than our sell-in. One quarter doesn't make a trend, but, you know, good to kinda stop that trend, and then we'll kinda see where it goes from here. Got it. Okay. Appreciate the color, guys. Thank you. Thanks, Kurt. Thanks, Kurt. Our next question is from Tim Wojs with Baird. Please proceed. Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Nice. Hey, Tim. Thank you. Nice job on the results and the inventory number. I guess maybe just my first question, just if I remember right, you guys were expecting about $30 million of annualized cost savings from some of the SG&A actions you took last year. What was the realization in the first quarter? I don't know if I missed that. If you remember, Tim, the $30 million was about 2/3 SG&A and 1/3 in COGS. That was kinda how we framed up the $30 million net. Then we said in the last quarter that we expected $10 million-$15 million on a annualized basis below last year's SG&A spend, actuals. In the first quarter, SG&A was actually up $1 million, but you gotta peel it back a little bit. There's two big drivers there. One, exchange rate with a $4.2 million hurt on that, so that's the translation of European expenses back to dollars. We also had about $2 million of one-time related costs to our cost savings initiatives that were in the first quarter. If you take those two kind of at face value and say we are up one, you know, we were down about $5 million net-net. I think an important point is what we mentioned in the script on headcount. Our SG&A headcount is down about 9% when you look year-over-year. I would say, you know, the realization in the first quarter, if you kind of adjust for FX and, you know, the one-time cost is in the, you know, call it $3 million-$5 million range. If you kind of project that across the course of the year, you can kind of get, you know, pretty close to that number we said would be the net number we expect to be down, you know, by the end of the year versus last year's actuals. Okay, great. No, that's really helpful. Thanks. Then on the component manufacturing business, just I think last quarter it might have been up low single-digit and now it's up double-digit. Is that just kind of the lumpiness that can be kind of inherent in that business? Or was there a pretty significant amount of adds in the component business specifically? Yeah. It is a little lumpy, Tim, as you know, cause it takes a bit of effort to convert a customer. We continue to add customers, and we've added a couple the last months of 2025 that are now starting to build in 2026. Okay. Is there any way to just, on that business, just kind of give us a kind of a ballpark figure to maybe how big it is today? No. We have not, Tim. We have not commented on the size of the component manufacturing business or the different market segments. Other than we said, you know, publicly the market size and kind of our rough share position, I know you've heard that before, so let me kind of ballpark you somewhere, so. Okay. That's what I track. Well, no, but thanks for this and good luck on the rest of you guys. Thanks. All right. Thanks, Tim. Our final question is from Andrew Carter with Stifel. Please proceed. Hey, thanks. Good evening. Just wanted to ask in terms of the residential volume performance up slightly. I know you're taking your guidance down to low single digits%, but I think based on the sources you have, customer conversations, I would assume that your guidance is assuming that there was a pretty deep decline in the first quarter that improves throughout the year. Is that fair or is anything in any of my assumptions there flawed? Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I'd say deep decline. I think, you know, when the numbers come out, I think we'll, you know, we expect to see that the market was down in the first quarter from a housing start standpoint. Then I think keep in mind, you know, the back half of last year was the worst part of last year compared to the front half of last year, which actually I think had slight growth when you look at the front half from a market standpoint. The comps are a little bit different. You know, I think it would be. You know, if you're doing the math on how do you get to down low single digits for the market, the front half has a tougher set of comps. You know, I think potentially the front half could look worse and then the back half could look a little bit better, but probably more a function of what you're comparing to than a change in the starts rate. Gotcha. Then kind of wanted to kind of build on that component manufacturer question, truss, you know, the kind of reacceleration you had in the quarter. You mentioned customer wins. I mean, how often do those occur? Do you get those, like, a shot at that annually? I mean, is that double-digit run rate something you can carry through the year just because you have the customers? Is there any kind of unlocks you get as you roll out the rest of the software program later in the year? Just any thoughts on that cadence. Yeah, I think. If you step back and you look at those customers, we've been working with them for a long time in a variety of other businesses, especially all the larger pro dealers. I mean, they know us very well. A lot of the smaller to mid-size guys, we've known these customers for a long time. They know the Simpson service and the approach that we take to working with customers. We've also been talking with them over the last 12-18 months about the development we're making with the software. We've been giving regular updates to it. We've been showing some demos and just letting people see how it develops. I think you kinda add all that up, that is what has helped us continue to grow, is they wanna work with a long-term partner that operates like Simpson. We do our level best to take great care of the customer. We believe that our plans to have a cloud-based solution that is very customer-friendly and contracting terms that are a little bit more customer-friendly, it's gonna create some additional opportunities for us. They see the investment that we've made in this space really over the last couple years. I think that's opened some doors, and that's made some people realize that we would be the partner of choice going forward for them. Final question, kinda gear up. I think you said something about flat, low single digits over the next two years. Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought that was kinda the expectation. For this year, it obviously started out down 5% organic this quarter. I guess that would be the market where you might see incremental weakness from, you know, the energy prices, etc., but it's also two-thirds commercial, it's a longer cycle. Any update on that market or do you see further risk of that declining? Just any help there. Thank you. Yeah. When we look at the composite index that we built based on the countries we operate in and the mix, as you said, between residential and commercial, and we use, again, experts that pull those forecasts in to help us get the numbers. Our thoughts going in were flat to low single digits, and the fact that they had a tough first couple of months because of weather really hasn't changed that, right? I think there is some optimism in the market in Europe. To be quite honest, 0%-2% or 3% will be better than we've had the last three or four years and certainly better than what we've had in the U.S. the last four years. We're hoping that plays out. In the meantime, we're focusing on the things that we can control, and that's just trying to pick up new applications, shelf space, more content on jobs. All for me. Thank you very much. All right. Thanks Andrew. Thank you. With no further questions, that will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.
Speaker 7: Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Kim Orlando, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin. Please note this conference is being recorded. please note this conference is being recorded I will now turn the conference over to Kim Orlando, Investor Relations. i will now turn the conference over to kim orlando investor relations Thank you. thank you You may begin. you may begin
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Simpson Manufacturing Company. First quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Any statements made on this call that are not statements of historical fact are forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on certain estimates and expectations and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual future results may vary materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. We encourage you to read the risks described in the company's public filings and reports, which are available on the SEC's or the company's corporate website. Except to the extent required by applicable securities laws, we undertake no obligation to update or publicly revise any of the forward-looking statements that we make here today, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Simpson Manufacturing Company. good afternoon ladies and gentlemen and welcome to simpson manufacturing company First quarter 2026 earnings conference call. first quarter 2026 earnings conference call Any statements made on this call that are not statements of historical fact are forward-looking statements. any statements made on this call that are not statements of historical fact are forward-looking statements Such statements are based on certain estimates and expectations and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. such statements are based on certain estimates and expectations and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties Actual future results may vary materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. actual future results may vary materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements We encourage you to read the risks described in the company's public filings and reports, which are available on the SEC's or the company's corporate website. we encourage you to read the risks described in the company's public filings and reports which are available on the sec's or the company's corporate website Except to the extent required by applicable securities laws, we undertake no obligation to update or publicly revise any of the forward-looking statements that we make here today, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. except to the extent required by applicable securities laws we undertake no obligation to update or publicly revise any of the forward-looking statements that we make here today whether as a result of new information future events or otherwise On this call, we will also refer to non-GAAP measures, such as adjusted EBITDA, which is reconciled to the most comparable GAAP measure of net income in the company's earnings press release. Please note that the earnings press release was issued today at approximately 4:15 P.M. Eastern Time. The earnings press release is available on the investor relations page of the company's website at ir.simpsonmfg.com. Today's call is being webcast, and a replay will also be available on the investor relations page of the company's website. Now, I would like to turn the conference over to Michael Olosky, Simpson's President and Chief Executive Officer. On this call, we will also refer to non-GAAP measures, such as adjusted EBITDA, which is reconciled to the most comparable GAAP measure of net income in the company's earnings press release. on this call we will also refer to non-gaap measures such as adjusted ebitda which is reconciled to the most comparable gaap measure of net income in the company's earnings press release Please note that the earnings press release was issued today at approximately 4:15 P.M. please note that the earnings press release was issued today at approximately 4:15 p.m Eastern Time. eastern time The earnings press release is available on the investor relations page of the company's website at ir.simpsonmfg.com. the earnings press release is available on the investor relations page of the company's website at ir.simpsonmfg.com Today's call is being webcast, and a replay will also be available on the investor relations page of the company's website. today's call is being webcast and a replay will also be available on the investor relations page of the company's website Now, I would like to turn the conference over to Michael Olosky, Simpson's President and Chief Executive Officer. now i would like to turn the conference over to michael olosky simpson's president and chief executive officer
Speaker 6: Thanks, Kim. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to today's call. With me is Matt Dunn, our Chief Financial Officer. As we begin, I'd like to step back and briefly anchor our performance this quarter in the broader ambitions that guide how we build and grow Simpson. Across the organization, we remain focused on being the partner of choice for our customers and innovation leader in the markets we serve and strengthening our values-based culture, all while delivering strong financial performance. We are making meaningful progress on these ambitions despite continued market challenges. A defining hallmark of our values-based culture is a depth of experience and long-term commitment across our organization. As we celebrate our 70th year as a company, that continuity matters. It reflects a culture that has allowed us to perform, adapt, and grow through many different construction cycles. Thanks, Kim. thanks kim Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to today's call. good afternoon everyone and welcome to today's call With me is Matt Dunn, our Chief Financial Officer. with me is matt dunn our chief financial officer As we begin, I'd like to step back and briefly anchor our performance this quarter in the broader ambitions that guide how we build and grow Simpson. as we begin i'd like to step back and briefly anchor our performance this quarter in the broader ambitions that guide how we build and grow simpson Across the organization, we remain focused on being the partner of choice for our customers and innovation leader in the markets we serve and strengthening our values-based culture, all while delivering strong financial performance. across the organization we remain focused on being the partner of choice for our customers and innovation leader in the markets we serve and strengthening our values-based culture all while delivering strong financial performance We are making meaningful progress on these ambitions despite continued market challenges. we are making meaningful progress on these ambitions despite continued market challenges A defining hallmark of our values-based culture is a depth of experience and long-term commitment across our organization. a defining hallmark of our values-based culture is a depth of experience and long-term commitment across our organization As we celebrate our 70th year as a company, that continuity matters. as we celebrate our 70th year as a company that continuity matters It reflects a culture that has allowed us to perform, adapt, and grow through many different construction cycles. it reflects a culture that has allowed us to perform adapt and grow through many different construction cycles Throughout the year, we'll be highlighting employees whose long-term dedication and impact reflect the values and culture that have defined Simpson for seven decades. I'd like to take a moment to recognize a few members of our team. First is Cheryl Wyatt, Plant Director for our Southeast operations. She is celebrating 42 years with Simpson. Cheryl started her career in our customer service organization, gaining first-hand insight into our customers and how we support them. She advanced through several manufacturing and operation roles and today leads our highest volume and most cost-effective manufacturing facility. I'd also like to recognize Cyndi Chandler. Cyndi started her career with Simpson in Texas and has spent 41 years with the company. She currently leads our business in the United Kingdom, where she made meaningful profitability improvements. Throughout the year, we'll be highlighting employees whose long-term dedication and impact reflect the values and culture that have defined Simpson for seven decades. throughout the year we'll be highlighting employees whose long-term dedication and impact reflect the values and culture that have defined simpson for seven decades I'd like to take a moment to recognize a few members of our team. i'd like to take a moment to recognize a few members of our team First is Cheryl Wyatt, Plant Director for our Southeast operations. first is cheryl wyatt plant director for our southeast operations She is celebrating 42 years with Simpson. she is celebrating 42 years with simpson Cheryl started her career in our customer service organization, gaining first-hand insight into our customers and how we support them. cheryl started her career in our customer service organization gaining first-hand insight into our customers and how we support them She advanced through several manufacturing and operation roles and today leads our highest volume and most cost-effective manufacturing facility. she advanced through several manufacturing and operation roles and today leads our highest volume and most cost-effective manufacturing facility I'd also like to recognize Cyndi Chandler. i'd also like to recognize cyndi chandler Cyndi started her career with Simpson in Texas and has spent 41 years with the company. cyndi started her career with simpson in texas and has spent 41 years with the company She currently leads our business in the United Kingdom, where she made meaningful profitability improvements. she currently leads our business in the united kingdom where she made meaningful profitability improvements Over her career, she has consistently led teams through complex change, from reshaping our U.S. national accounts approach to launching operations in Chile, and most recently, successfully strengthening our customer relationships across the U.K. Finally, I'd like to recognize our brothers, Genaro and John Sid from our Southwest operations. With 48 and 42 years of service, respectively, Genaro and John bring a combined 90 years of experience spanning production planning, leadership, and quoting. They are a great example of the deep operational knowledge and customer focus that underscore what makes us unique. These are just a few examples of the people behind the results, and we're grateful for the experience, leadership, and commitment they bring to work every day. Now turning to our financial results. We delivered net sales of $588 million, up 9.1% from the prior year quarter. Over her career, she has consistently led teams through complex change, from reshaping our U.S. national accounts approach to launching operations in Chile, and most recently, successfully strengthening our customer relationships across the U.K. over her career she has consistently led teams through complex change from reshaping our u.s national accounts approach to launching operations in chile and most recently successfully strengthening our customer relationships across the u.k Finally, I'd like to recognize our brothers, Genaro and John Sid from our Southwest operations. finally i'd like to recognize our brothers genaro and john sid from our southwest operations With 48 and 42 years of service, respectively, Genaro and John bring a combined 90 years of experience spanning production planning, leadership, and quoting. with 48 and 42 years of service respectively genaro and john bring a combined 90 years of experience spanning production planning leadership and quoting They are a great example of the deep operational knowledge and customer focus that underscore what makes us unique. they are a great example of the deep operational knowledge and customer focus that underscore what makes us unique These are just a few examples of the people behind the results, and we're grateful for the experience, leadership, and commitment they bring to work every day. these are just a few examples of the people behind the results and we're grateful for the experience leadership and commitment they bring to work every day Now turning to our financial results. now turning to our financial results We delivered net sales of $588 million, up 9.1% from the prior year quarter. we delivered net sales of $588 million up 9.1% from the prior year quarter As outlined in our investor presentation, net sales growth was primarily driven by our 2025 pricing actions, which contributed approximately 6% and foreign exchange of approximately 3%. These gains were partially offset by an approximate 1% decline in volume as a result of softer housing start activity during the quarter. In North America, net sales were $461.9 million, up 9.8% from the prior year quarter, including a $31 million benefit from pricing actions. As we look across our North American business, performance remains mixed by market segment and varies by geography, consistent with broader construction trends. However, we continue to see areas of resilience and growth where our strategy, business model, and customer relationships position us well. The component manufacturer business delivered a strong quarter with volumes up double digits, driven primarily by new customer wins. As outlined in our investor presentation, net sales growth was primarily driven by our 2025 pricing actions, which contributed approximately 6% and foreign exchange of approximately 3%. as outlined in our investor presentation net sales growth was primarily driven by our 2025 pricing actions which contributed approximately 6% and foreign exchange of approximately 3% These gains were partially offset by an approximate 1% decline in volume as a result of softer housing start activity during the quarter. these gains were partially offset by an approximate 1% decline in volume as a result of softer housing start activity during the quarter In North America, net sales were $461.9 million, up 9.8% from the prior year quarter, including a $31 million benefit from pricing actions. in north america net sales were $461.9 million up 9.8% from the prior year quarter including a $31 million benefit from pricing actions As we look across our North American business, performance remains mixed by market segment and varies by geography, consistent with broader construction trends. as we look across our north american business performance remains mixed by market segment and varies by geography consistent with broader construction trends However, we continue to see areas of resilience and growth where our strategy, business model, and customer relationships position us well. however we continue to see areas of resilience and growth where our strategy business model and customer relationships position us well The component manufacturer business delivered a strong quarter with volumes up double digits, driven primarily by new customer wins. the component manufacturer business delivered a strong quarter with volumes up double digits driven primarily by new customer wins This business continues to represent one of our most attractive long-term growth opportunities. Even amid broader residential housing softness, customer engagement remains solid, particularly around productivity-enhancing solutions. Truss manufacturers remain focused on labor efficiency, throughput, and operational visibility, resulting in increased demand for our solutions across software, plates, equipment, and design services. We are making great progress in expanding and enhancing our offerings with value-added functionality. We are also improving our ability to respond quickly with new software features as customers' needs evolve. Adoption of our solutions continues to advance, strengthening our role as a strategic partner to our component manufacturing customers. The OEM business delivered another strong quarter with double-digit volume growth. This segment remains in an area of relative strength and strategic importance, supported by long-term trends toward prefabrication and off-site construction methods, including engineered wood systems and mass timber. This business continues to represent one of our most attractive long-term growth opportunities. this business continues to represent one of our most attractive long-term growth opportunities Even amid broader residential housing softness, customer engagement remains solid, particularly around productivity-enhancing solutions. even amid broader residential housing softness customer engagement remains solid particularly around productivity-enhancing solutions Truss manufacturers remain focused on labor efficiency, throughput, and operational visibility, resulting in increased demand for our solutions across software, plates, equipment, and design services. We are making great progress in expanding and enhancing our offerings with value-added functionality. truss manufacturers remain focused on labor efficiency throughput and operational visibility resulting in increased demand for our solutions across software plates equipment and design services. we are making great progress in expanding and enhancing our offerings with value-added functionality We are also improving our ability to respond quickly with new software features as customers' needs evolve. we are also improving our ability to respond quickly with new software features as customers' needs evolve Adoption of our solutions continues to advance, strengthening our role as a strategic partner to our component manufacturing customers. adoption of our solutions continues to advance strengthening our role as a strategic partner to our component manufacturing customers The OEM business delivered another strong quarter with double-digit volume growth. the oem business delivered another strong quarter with double-digit volume growth This segment remains in an area of relative strength and strategic importance, supported by long-term trends toward prefabrication and off-site construction methods, including engineered wood systems and mass timber. this segment remains in an area of relative strength and strategic importance supported by long-term trends toward prefabrication and off-site construction methods including engineered wood systems and mass timber While project timing can vary, customer engagement remains high, and our pipeline of opportunities continues to build. Our ability to pair innovative products with deep engineering expertise, testing capabilities, and field support remains a key differentiator. As customers pursue increasingly complex performance-driven projects, we believe our OEM segment is well-positioned to grow faster than the broader construction market over time. Our residential business volume increased modestly year-over-year, supported by continued cross-selling of connectors, fasteners, and anchoring solutions. While builders are focused on cost control, cycle time reduction, and lowering inventory levels, we renewed builder agreements, launched new products, and increased our service offerings to support both our builders and our LBM partners. These initiatives, combined with high service level across the industry's broadest and deepest product line, have enabled us to perform relatively well in a market pressured by soft housing starts. While project timing can vary, customer engagement remains high, and our pipeline of opportunities continues to build. while project timing can vary customer engagement remains high and our pipeline of opportunities continues to build Our ability to pair innovative products with deep engineering expertise, testing capabilities, and field support remains a key differentiator. our ability to pair innovative products with deep engineering expertise testing capabilities and field support remains a key differentiator As customers pursue increasingly complex performance-driven projects, we believe our OEM segment is well-positioned to grow faster than the broader construction market over time. as customers pursue increasingly complex performance-driven projects we believe our oem segment is well-positioned to grow faster than the broader construction market over time Our residential business volume increased modestly year-over-year, supported by continued cross-selling of connectors, fasteners, and anchoring solutions. our residential business volume increased modestly year-over-year supported by continued cross-selling of connectors fasteners and anchoring solutions While builders are focused on cost control, cycle time reduction, and lowering inventory levels, we renewed builder agreements, launched new products, and increased our service offerings to support both our builders and our LBM partners. while builders are focused on cost control cycle time reduction and lowering inventory levels we renewed builder agreements launched new products and increased our service offerings to support both our builders and our lbm partners These initiatives, combined with high service level across the industry's broadest and deepest product line, have enabled us to perform relatively well in a market pressured by soft housing starts. these initiatives combined with high service level across the industry's broadest and deepest product line have enabled us to perform relatively well in a market pressured by soft housing starts In our commercial business, first quarter volumes were down slightly year-over-year, reflecting mixed construction activity by segment and geography. Demand for cold-formed steel and anchoring systems remains relatively resilient. Customers continue to value our technical expertise, project coordination, broad portfolio of code compliance solutions, and reliable product availability on large, complex projects, particularly where early engagement helps reduce risk and improve execution. While overall activity remains uneven, our differentiated capabilities position us well for continued share gains. Our national retail business experienced low single-digit decline in shipments, while point-of-sale volumes declined in the mid-single digits versus the prior year. The retail environment remains competitive and reflective of broader housing and repair and renovation trends, with customers remaining value-focused and selective in discretionary spending. Our teams remain focused on disciplined execution, strong in-store support, and close collaboration with retail partners to optimize merchandising. In our commercial business, first quarter volumes were down slightly year-over-year, reflecting mixed construction activity by segment and geography. in our commercial business first quarter volumes were down slightly year-over-year reflecting mixed construction activity by segment and geography Demand for cold-formed steel and anchoring systems remains relatively resilient. demand for cold-formed steel and anchoring systems remains relatively resilient Customers continue to value our technical expertise, project coordination, broad portfolio of code compliance solutions, and reliable product availability on large, complex projects, particularly where early engagement helps reduce risk and improve execution. customers continue to value our technical expertise project coordination broad portfolio of code compliance solutions and reliable product availability on large complex projects particularly where early engagement helps reduce risk and improve execution While overall activity remains uneven, our differentiated capabilities position us well for continued share gains. while overall activity remains uneven our differentiated capabilities position us well for continued share gains Our national retail business experienced low single-digit decline in shipments, while point-of-sale volumes declined in the mid-single digits versus the prior year. our national retail business experienced low single-digit decline in shipments while point-of-sale volumes declined in the mid-single digits versus the prior year The retail environment remains competitive and reflective of broader housing and repair and renovation trends, with customers remaining value-focused and selective in discretionary spending. the retail environment remains competitive and reflective of broader housing and repair and renovation trends with customers remaining value-focused and selective in discretionary spending Our teams remain focused on disciplined execution, strong in-store support, and close collaboration with retail partners to optimize merchandising. our teams remain focused on disciplined execution strong in-store support and close collaboration with retail partners to optimize merchandising We continue to make progress through bay optimization initiatives, targeted product innovation, and the expansion of decorative hardware via our Outdoor Accents offerings. While near-term volumes remain pressured, our emphasis on service, reliability, and in-market execution continues to strengthen retail relationships and support long-term growth opportunities. In summary, while near-term market conditions remain difficult, our diversified portfolio, strong customer relationships, and focus on engineering and value-added solutions resulted in solid performance across the North American business. In Europe, first quarter net sales totaled $121 million, up 6.3% year-over-year, driven by foreign currency translation. On a local currency basis, net sales were down 5.4%, with the decline in volumes partly offset by price increases. The market has been off to a slow start this year, but we continue to expect flat to low single-digit market growth over the next couple of years. We continue to make progress through bay optimization initiatives, targeted product innovation, and the expansion of decorative hardware via our Outdoor Accents offerings. we continue to make progress through bay optimization initiatives targeted product innovation and the expansion of decorative hardware via our outdoor accents offerings While near-term volumes remain pressured, our emphasis on service, reliability, and in-market execution continues to strengthen retail relationships and support long-term growth opportunities. while near-term volumes remain pressured our emphasis on service reliability and in-market execution continues to strengthen retail relationships and support long-term growth opportunities In summary, while near-term market conditions remain difficult, our diversified portfolio, strong customer relationships, and focus on engineering and value-added solutions resulted in solid performance across the North American business. in summary while near-term market conditions remain difficult our diversified portfolio strong customer relationships and focus on engineering and value-added solutions resulted in solid performance across the north american business In Europe, first quarter net sales totaled $121 million, up 6.3% year-over-year, driven by foreign currency translation. in europe first quarter net sales totaled $121 million up 6.3% year-over-year driven by foreign currency translation On a local currency basis, net sales were down 5.4%, with the decline in volumes partly offset by price increases. on a local currency basis net sales were down 5.4% with the decline in volumes partly offset by price increases The market has been off to a slow start this year, but we continue to expect flat to low single-digit market growth over the next couple of years. the market has been off to a slow start this year but we continue to expect flat to low single-digit market growth over the next couple of years Even in this environment, we've had several meaningful customer wins, including multiple mass timber projects. We also made progress improving profitability in select countries and continue to optimize our footprint to support long-term performance. While our raw material positions remain strong, we are seeing input cost headwinds that have required us to pass through surcharges and price increases. Taken together, these dynamics reinforce our confidence in our ability to continue improving profitability in Europe. Our consolidated gross margin declined 130 basis points year-over-year to 45.2%, driven by higher material, factory, tooling, and labor costs as a percentage of net sales, including startup costs from the ongoing ramp of our Gallatin facility that opened late last year. Our 2025 price increases, which we now expect will contribute approximately $130 million in annualized net sales, helped offset these costs, including those attributable to tariffs. Even in this environment, we've had several meaningful customer wins, including multiple mass timber projects. even in this environment we've had several meaningful customer wins including multiple mass timber projects We also made progress improving profitability in select countries and continue to optimize our footprint to support long-term performance. we also made progress improving profitability in select countries and continue to optimize our footprint to support long-term performance While our raw material positions remain strong, we are seeing input cost headwinds that have required us to pass through surcharges and price increases. while our raw material positions remain strong we are seeing input cost headwinds that have required us to pass through surcharges and price increases Taken together, these dynamics reinforce our confidence in our ability to continue improving profitability in Europe. taken together these dynamics reinforce our confidence in our ability to continue improving profitability in europe Our consolidated gross margin declined 130 basis points year-over-year to 45.2%, driven by higher material, factory, tooling, and labor costs as a percentage of net sales, including startup costs from the ongoing ramp of our Gallatin facility that opened late last year. our consolidated gross margin declined 130 basis points year-over-year to 45.2% driven by higher material factory tooling and labor costs as a percentage of net sales including startup costs from the ongoing ramp of our gallatin facility that opened late last year Our 2025 price increases, which we now expect will contribute approximately $130 million in annualized net sales, helped offset these costs, including those attributable to tariffs. our 2025 price increases which we now expect will contribute approximately $130 million in annualized net sales helped offset these costs including those attributable to tariffs Gross margin was also negatively affected by product mix, partially offset by our productivity initiatives. Our operating margin was 19.5%, up 50 basis points year-over-year, which included one-time costs of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $139.4 million, a 14.1% increase year-over-year. As outlined in our last call, our financial ambitions remain, one, driving above-market volume growth relative to U.S. housing starts, two, maintaining an operating income margin at or above 20%, and three, consistently driving EPS growth ahead of net sales growth. In summary, our first quarter results reflect disciplined pricing and cost management, reinforced by strong execution and an unwavering focus on supporting our customers. Gross margin was also negatively affected by product mix, partially offset by our productivity initiatives. gross margin was also negatively affected by product mix partially offset by our productivity initiatives Our operating margin was 19.5%, up 50 basis points year-over-year, which included one-time costs of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives. our operating margin was 19.5% up 50 basis points year-over-year which included one-time costs of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives Adjusted EBITDA totaled $139.4 million, a 14.1% increase year-over-year. adjusted ebitda totaled $139.4 million a 14.1% increase year-over-year As outlined in our last call, our financial ambitions remain, one, driving above-market volume growth relative to U.S. housing starts, two, maintaining an operating income margin at or above 20%, and three, consistently driving EPS growth ahead of net sales growth. as outlined in our last call our financial ambitions remain one driving above-market volume growth relative to u.s housing starts two maintaining an operating income margin at or above 20% and three consistently driving eps growth ahead of net sales growth In summary, our first quarter results reflect disciplined pricing and cost management, reinforced by strong execution and an unwavering focus on supporting our customers. in summary our first quarter results reflect disciplined pricing and cost management reinforced by strong execution and an unwavering focus on supporting our customers As we look ahead, we expect conditions in both the U.S. and Europe to remain challenging, and we do not anticipate sustaining the same level of revenue growth through the remainder of the year. As for our outlook on the markets, we now believe 2026 housing starts in the United States will be down low single digits compared to 2025, and in Europe, we expect flat to modest growth in the market for 2026. Looking ahead, our culture, customer focus, innovation, and financial discipline position us well to execute and maintain a strong competitive position. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Matt, who will discuss our financial results and outlook in greater detail. As we look ahead, we expect conditions in both the U.S. and Europe to remain challenging, and we do not anticipate sustaining the same level of revenue growth through the remainder of the year. As for our outlook on the markets, we now believe 2026 housing starts in the United States will be down low single digits compared to 2025, and in Europe, we expect flat to modest growth in the market for 2026. as we look ahead we expect conditions in both the u.s and europe to remain challenging and we do not anticipate sustaining the same level of revenue growth through the remainder of the year. as for our outlook on the markets we now believe 2026 housing starts in the united states will be down low single digits compared to 2025 and in europe we expect flat to modest growth in the market for 2026 Looking ahead, our culture, customer focus, innovation, and financial discipline position us well to execute and maintain a strong competitive position. looking ahead our culture customer focus innovation and financial discipline position us well to execute and maintain a strong competitive position With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Matt, who will discuss our financial results and outlook in greater detail. with that i'd like to turn the call over to matt who will discuss our financial results and outlook in greater detail
Speaker 5: Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us on our earnings call today. As we celebrate our 70th year as a company, I'd like to echo Mike's comments and extend our gratitude to our many long-standing employees who have made Simpson the company it is today. I'd also like to mention that unless otherwise stated, all financial measures discussed in my prepared remarks refer to the first quarter of 2026, and all comparisons will be year-over-year comparisons versus the first quarter of 2025. Now turning to our results. Consolidated net sales grew 9.1% to $588 million. In the North America segment, net sales rose 9.8% to $461.9 million. Good afternoon, everyone. good afternoon everyone Thank you for joining us on our earnings call today. thank you for joining us on our earnings call today As we celebrate our 70th year as a company, I'd like to echo Mike's comments and extend our gratitude to our many long-standing employees who have made Simpson the company it is today. as we celebrate our 70th year as a company i'd like to echo mike's comments and extend our gratitude to our many long-standing employees who have made simpson the company it is today I'd also like to mention that unless otherwise stated, all financial measures discussed in my prepared remarks refer to the first quarter of 2026, and all comparisons will be year-over-year comparisons versus the first quarter of 2025. i'd also like to mention that unless otherwise stated all financial measures discussed in my prepared remarks refer to the first quarter of 2026 and all comparisons will be year-over-year comparisons versus the first quarter of 2025 Now turning to our results. now turning to our results Consolidated net sales grew 9.1% to $588 million. consolidated net sales grew 9.1% to $588 million In the North America segment, net sales rose 9.8% to $461.9 million. in the north america segment net sales rose 9.8% to $461.9 million Europe delivered a 6.3% increase in net sales to $121 million, driven by $13.2 million in favorable foreign currency translation and price increases, which were partially offset by lower sales volumes, partly from adverse weather conditions across the region. Globally, wood construction product sales were up 8.3%, and concrete construction product sales were up 14.7% as a larger percentage of these products are imported and included in tariff-driven price increases. Consolidated gross profit increased 6.1% to $265.9 million, resulting in a gross margin of 45.2%, down 130 basis points. Europe delivered a 6.3% increase in net sales to $121 million, driven by $13.2 million in favorable foreign currency translation and price increases, which were partially offset by lower sales volumes, partly from adverse weather conditions across the region. europe delivered a 6.3% increase in net sales to $121 million driven by $13.2 million in favorable foreign currency translation and price increases which were partially offset by lower sales volumes partly from adverse weather conditions across the region Globally, wood construction product sales were up 8.3%, and concrete construction product sales were up 14.7% as a larger percentage of these products are imported and included in tariff-driven price increases. globally wood construction product sales were up 8.3% and concrete construction product sales were up 14.7% as a larger percentage of these products are imported and included in tariff-driven price increases Consolidated gross profit increased 6.1% to $265.9 million, resulting in a gross margin of 45.2%, down 130 basis points. consolidated gross profit increased 6.1% to $265.9 million resulting in a gross margin of 45.2% down 130 basis points In North America, gross margin was 47.8%, below the 49.8% reported in the prior year, reflecting the impact from tariffs and higher factory overhead and labor costs as a percentage of net sales, along with some unfavorable product mix in the quarter. As Mike noted, startup costs in our Gallatin facility represented an approximate 100 basis points headwind to our first quarter gross margin, which we expect to moderate as we progress through the year. In Europe, gross margin increased to 36.3% from 35.2%, driven by higher pricing and lower material costs, partly offset by higher factory and tooling costs as a percentage of net sales. From a product perspective, our gross margin was relatively flat at approximately 46% for wood products. In North America, gross margin was 47.8%, below the 49.8% reported in the prior year, reflecting the impact from tariffs and higher factory overhead and labor costs as a percentage of net sales, along with some unfavorable product mix in the quarter. in north america gross margin was 47.8% below the 49.8% reported in the prior year reflecting the impact from tariffs and higher factory overhead and labor costs as a percentage of net sales along with some unfavorable product mix in the quarter As Mike noted, startup costs in our Gallatin facility represented an approximate 100 basis points headwind to our first quarter gross margin, which we expect to moderate as we progress through the year. as mike noted startup costs in our gallatin facility represented an approximate 100 basis points headwind to our first quarter gross margin which we expect to moderate as we progress through the year In Europe, gross margin increased to 36.3% from 35.2%, driven by higher pricing and lower material costs, partly offset by higher factory and tooling costs as a percentage of net sales. in europe gross margin increased to 36.3% from 35.2% driven by higher pricing and lower material costs partly offset by higher factory and tooling costs as a percentage of net sales From a product perspective, our gross margin was relatively flat at approximately 46% for wood products. from a product perspective our gross margin was relatively flat at approximately 46% for wood products For concrete products, gross margin was 40.2% compared to 49.5% a year ago, with the decrease due to tariffs, partly offset by recent pricing actions. Now turning to expenses. As a percentage of net sales, first quarter operating expenses were 25.6%, an improvement from 27.5% last year. SG&A headcount was down approximately 9.1% year-over-year, which reduced personnel-related costs. In total, operating expenses increased 1.7% to $150.7 million, driven primarily by $4.2 million of foreign currency translation and one-time cost in Q1 2026 of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives. These increases were largely offset by lower professional fees and variable incentive compensation. For concrete products, gross margin was 40.2% compared to 49.5% a year ago, with the decrease due to tariffs, partly offset by recent pricing actions. for concrete products gross margin was 40.2% compared to 49.5% a year ago with the decrease due to tariffs partly offset by recent pricing actions Now turning to expenses. now turning to expenses As a percentage of net sales, first quarter operating expenses were 25.6%, an improvement from 27.5% last year. as a percentage of net sales first quarter operating expenses were 25.6% an improvement from 27.5% last year SG&A headcount was down approximately 9.1% year-over-year, which reduced personnel-related costs. sg&a headcount was down approximately 9.1% year-over-year which reduced personnel-related costs In total, operating expenses increased 1.7% to $150.7 million, driven primarily by $4.2 million of foreign currency translation and one-time cost in Q1 2026 of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives. in total operating expenses increased 1.7% to $150.7 million driven primarily by $4.2 million of foreign currency translation and one-time cost in q1 2026 of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives These increases were largely offset by lower professional fees and variable incentive compensation. these increases were largely offset by lower professional fees and variable incentive compensation To further detail our SG&A, our research and development and engineering expenses decreased by 6.1% to $18.6 million on lower personnel cost due to less headcount and footprint optimization. Selling expenses were relatively flat at $54.5 million as a result of our strategic cost savings initiatives. On a segment basis, selling expenses in North America were down 3.3%, and in Europe, they were up 11.9%, primarily due to FX. General and administrative expenses increased by 4.5% to $77.6 million due to one-time cost of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives. As a result, our consolidated income from operations totaled $114.6 million, an increase of 12% from $102.3 million. To further detail our SG&A, our research and development and engineering expenses decreased by 6.1% to $18.6 million on lower personnel cost due to less headcount and footprint optimization. to further detail our sg&a our research and development and engineering expenses decreased by 6.1% to $18.6 million on lower personnel cost due to less headcount and footprint optimization Selling expenses were relatively flat at $54.5 million as a result of our strategic cost savings initiatives. selling expenses were relatively flat at $54.5 million as a result of our strategic cost savings initiatives On a segment basis, selling expenses in North America were down 3.3%, and in Europe, they were up 11.9%, primarily due to FX. on a segment basis selling expenses in north america were down 3.3% and in europe they were up 11.9% primarily due to fx General and administrative expenses increased by 4.5% to $77.6 million due to one-time cost of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives. general and administrative expenses increased by 4.5% to $77.6 million due to one-time cost of $2.3 million related to our strategic cost savings initiatives As a result, our consolidated income from operations totaled $114.6 million, an increase of 12% from $102.3 million. as a result our consolidated income from operations totaled $114.6 million an increase of 12% from $102.3 million Our consolidated operating income margin was 19.5%, up from 19.0% last year. In North America, income from operations increased by 12.8% to $118.3 million due to higher net sales on reduced operating expenses. Our operating income margin in North America was 25.6% compared to 24.9% last year. In Europe, income from operations decreased 23.8% to $7.1 million due to lower volumes. Our operating income margin in Europe was 5.9% compared to 8.2% last year. Our effective tax rate was 24.1%, approximately 140 basis points below the prior year period. Our consolidated operating income margin was 19.5%, up from 19.0% last year. our consolidated operating income margin was 19.5% up from 19.0% last year In North America, income from operations increased by 12.8% to $118.3 million due to higher net sales on reduced operating expenses. in north america income from operations increased by 12.8% to $118.3 million due to higher net sales on reduced operating expenses Our operating income margin in North America was 25.6% compared to 24.9% last year. our operating income margin in north america was 25.6% compared to 24.9% last year In Europe, income from operations decreased 23.8% to $7.1 million due to lower volumes. in europe income from operations decreased 23.8% to $7.1 million due to lower volumes Our operating income margin in Europe was 5.9% compared to 8.2% last year. our operating income margin in europe was 5.9% compared to 8.2% last year Our effective tax rate was 24.1%, approximately 140 basis points below the prior year period. our effective tax rate was 24.1% approximately 140 basis points below the prior year period Accordingly, net income totaled $88.2 million or $2.13 per fully diluted share compared to $77.9 million or $1.85 per fully diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA was $139.4 million, an increase of 14.1%, resulting in a margin of 23.7%. Now turning to our balance sheet and liquidity. As of March 31st, 2026, we had $74.2 million drawn on the revolver, resulting in $525.8 million of remaining availability. Our debt balance was $370.5 million, down $3.8 million from December 31st, 2025, and cash and cash equivalents totaled $341 million, resulting in a net debt position of $29.5 million. Accordingly, net income totaled $88.2 million or $2.13 per fully diluted share compared to $77.9 million or $1.85 per fully diluted share. accordingly net income totaled $88.2 million or $2.13 per fully diluted share compared to $77.9 million or $1.85 per fully diluted share Adjusted EBITDA was $139.4 million, an increase of 14.1%, resulting in a margin of 23.7%. adjusted ebitda was $139.4 million an increase of 14.1% resulting in a margin of 23.7% Now turning to our balance sheet and liquidity. now turning to our balance sheet and liquidity As of March 31st, 2026, we had $74.2 million drawn on the revolver, resulting in $525.8 million of remaining availability. Our debt balance was $370.5 million, down $3.8 million from December 31st, 2025, and cash and cash equivalents totaled $341 million, resulting in a net debt position of $29.5 million. as of march 31st 2026 we had $74.2 million drawn on the revolver resulting in $525.8 million of remaining availability. our debt balance was $370.5 million down $3.8 million from december 31st 2025 and cash and cash equivalents totaled $341 million resulting in a net debt position of $29.5 million Our inventory position as of March 31st, 2026, was $549 million, which was down $45.2 million compared to December 31st, 2025. Pounds of inventory on hand in North America were down double digits, with a nearly double-digit increase in cost per pound, driven primarily by raw materials. We generated cash flow from operations of $35.9 million for the first quarter. Our capital allocation strategy remains focused on both supporting growth and delivering returns to our stockholders. In Q1, we invested $17.7 million in the capital expenditures, returned $12 million in dividends to our stockholders, and repurchased $50 million of our common stock. Our inventory position as of March 31st, 2026, was $549 million, which was down $45.2 million compared to December 31st, 2025. our inventory position as of march 31st 2026 was $549 million which was down $45.2 million compared to december 31st 2025 Pounds of inventory on hand in North America were down double digits, with a nearly double-digit increase in cost per pound, driven primarily by raw materials. pounds of inventory on hand in north america were down double digits with a nearly double-digit increase in cost per pound driven primarily by raw materials We generated cash flow from operations of $35.9 million for the first quarter. we generated cash flow from operations of $35.9 million for the first quarter Our capital allocation strategy remains focused on both supporting growth and delivering returns to our stockholders. our capital allocation strategy remains focused on both supporting growth and delivering returns to our stockholders In Q1, we invested $17.7 million in the capital expenditures, returned $12 million in dividends to our stockholders, and repurchased $50 million of our common stock. in q1 we invested $17.7 million in the capital expenditures returned $12 million in dividends to our stockholders and repurchased $50 million of our common stock As announced in October, the board authorized a new share repurchase program for 2026, permitting the repurchase of up to $150 million of our shares through year-end 2026. This authorization underscores our confidence in the long-term prospects of the business and our ongoing commitment to returning capital to shareholders. Next, I'll turn to our 2026 financial outlook. Based on business trends and conditions as of today, April 27th, 2026, our guidance for the full year ending December 31st, 2026, is as follows. We continue to expect our consolidated operating margin to be in the range of 19.5%-20.5%. As announced in October, the board authorized a new share repurchase program for 2026, permitting the repurchase of up to $150 million of our shares through year-end 2026. as announced in october the board authorized a new share repurchase program for 2026 permitting the repurchase of up to $150 million of our shares through year-end 2026 This authorization underscores our confidence in the long-term prospects of the business and our ongoing commitment to returning capital to shareholders. this authorization underscores our confidence in the long-term prospects of the business and our ongoing commitment to returning capital to shareholders Next, I'll turn to our 2026 financial outlook. next i'll turn to our 2026 financial outlook Based on business trends and conditions as of today, April 27th, 2026, our guidance for the full year ending December 31st, 2026, is as follows. based on business trends and conditions as of today april 27th 2026 our guidance for the full year ending december 31st 2026 is as follows We continue to expect our consolidated operating margin to be in the range of 19.5%-20.5%. we continue to expect our consolidated operating margin to be in the range of 19.5%-20.5% Additional key assumptions include our outlook for U.S. housing starts to be down in the low single-digit range, a lower overall gross margin based on imposed tariffs and increased depreciation costs, a higher realization of the annualized contribution from our 2025 price increases, an expected $3 million-$5 million of footprint optimization costs in Europe, and a projected $10 million-$12 million benefit on the sale of vacant land in the back half of 2026. Our effective tax rate is estimated to be in the range of 25%-26%, including both federal and state income tax rates based on current tax laws. Finally, our capital expenditures outlook is expected to be in the range of $75 million-$85 million. Additional key assumptions include our outlook for U.S. housing starts to be down in the low single-digit range, a lower overall gross margin based on imposed tariffs and increased depreciation costs, a higher realization of the annualized contribution from our 2025 price increases, an expected $3 million-$5 million of footprint optimization costs in Europe, and a projected $10 million-$12 million benefit on the sale of vacant land in the back half of 2026. additional key assumptions include our outlook for u.s housing starts to be down in the low single-digit range a lower overall gross margin based on imposed tariffs and increased depreciation costs a higher realization of the annualized contribution from our 2025 price increases an expected $3 million-$5 million of footprint optimization costs in europe and a projected $10 million-$12 million benefit on the sale of vacant land in the back half of 2026 Our effective tax rate is estimated to be in the range of 25%-26%, including both federal and state income tax rates based on current tax laws. our effective tax rate is estimated to be in the range of 25%-26% including both federal and state income tax rates based on current tax laws Finally, our capital expenditures outlook is expected to be in the range of $75 million-$85 million. finally our capital expenditures outlook is expected to be in the range of $75 million-$85 million In summary, we delivered solid results in the first quarter with growth in net sales, EBITDA, and operating margin despite a housing market that remains challenged. Pricing actions are contributing as expected and are projected to add roughly $130 million in annualized net sales, helping offset some tariff-related cost pressures. Overall, while we were pleased with our Q1 results, we do not expect this level of revenue growth to carry through the remainder of the year, given our tempered outlook for the housing market in 2026 and the timing of 2025 price increases. We remain focused on disciplined capital deployment and our commitment to return at least 35% of free cash flow to shareholders. With that, I will now turn the call over to the operator to begin the Q&A session. In summary, we delivered solid results in the first quarter with growth in net sales, EBITDA, and operating margin despite a housing market that remains challenged. in summary we delivered solid results in the first quarter with growth in net sales ebitda and operating margin despite a housing market that remains challenged Pricing actions are contributing as expected and are projected to add roughly $130 million in annualized net sales, helping offset some tariff-related cost pressures. pricing actions are contributing as expected and are projected to add roughly $130 million in annualized net sales helping offset some tariff-related cost pressures Overall, while we were pleased with our Q1 results, we do not expect this level of revenue growth to carry through the remainder of the year, given our tempered outlook for the housing market in 2026 and the timing of 2025 price increases. overall while we were pleased with our q1 results we do not expect this level of revenue growth to carry through the remainder of the year given our tempered outlook for the housing market in 2026 and the timing of 2025 price increases We remain focused on disciplined capital deployment and our commitment to return at least 35% of free cash flow to shareholders. we remain focused on disciplined capital deployment and our commitment to return at least 35% of free cash flow to shareholders With that, I will now turn the call over to the operator to begin the Q&A session. with that i will now turn the call over to the operator to begin the q&a session
Speaker 7: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For a participant choosing speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question is from Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. Please proceed. Thank you. thank you If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. if you would like to ask a question please press star one on your telephone keypad A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. a confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. you may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue For a participant choosing speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. for a participant choosing speaker equipment it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys Our first question is from Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. our first question is from daniel moore with cjs securities Please proceed. please proceed
Speaker 2: Thank you. Good afternoon, Matt, and good afternoon, Mike. Appreciate all the color. Congrats on the quarter. I guess we'll start with you know, the modest change in expectations around housing starts for the year. No, it's certainly not a surprise. I realize we're talking weeks, not months, but just talk about the sort of cadence of demand and volumes in North America that we've seen since the start of the war in Iran and spiking oil prices. Just wondering if you know, what sort of impact you're seeing in real-time and you know, how do you kinda see that playing out as we look through you know, to the remainder of Q2? Thank you. thank you Good afternoon, Matt, and good afternoon, Mike. good afternoon matt and good afternoon mike Appreciate all the color. appreciate all the color Congrats on the quarter. congrats on the quarter I guess we'll start with you know, the modest change in expectations around housing starts for the year. i guess we'll start with you know the modest change in expectations around housing starts for the year No, it's certainly not a surprise. no it's certainly not a surprise I realize we're talking weeks, not months, but just talk about the sort of cadence of demand and volumes in North America that we've seen since the start of the war in Iran and spiking oil prices. i realize we're talking weeks not months but just talk about the sort of cadence of demand and volumes in north america that we've seen since the start of the war in iran and spiking oil prices Just wondering if you know, what sort of impact you're seeing in real-time and you know, how do you kinda see that playing out as we look through you know, to the remainder of Q2? just wondering if you know what sort of impact you're seeing in real-time and you know how do you kinda see that playing out as we look through you know to the remainder of q2
Speaker 6: Hello, Dan. Thanks for the question. We started coming into this year thinking the market was gonna be roughly flat. As you know, the census data is a little bit delayed. When we look at the market, Dan, we're doing two things. We're getting basically feedback from six, seven different firms on how the year's gonna play out. Consensus from those six or seven firms is kind of low single-digit number. We're certainly cross-checking that with a lot of our customers. What we hear from the customers in the spring, it's been a bit of a soft selling season, which kinda confirms that low single-digit market growth rate expected for the year. Hello, Dan. hello dan Thanks for the question. thanks for the question We started coming into this year thinking the market was gonna be roughly flat. we started coming into this year thinking the market was gonna be roughly flat As you know, the census data is a little bit delayed. as you know the census data is a little bit delayed When we look at the market, Dan, we're doing two things. when we look at the market dan we're doing two things We're getting basically feedback from six, seven different firms on how the year's gonna play out. we're getting basically feedback from six seven different firms on how the year's gonna play out Consensus from those six or seven firms is kind of low single-digit number. consensus from those six or seven firms is kind of low single-digit number We're certainly cross-checking that with a lot of our customers. we're certainly cross-checking that with a lot of our customers What we hear from the customers in the spring, it's been a bit of a soft selling season, which kinda confirms that low single-digit market growth rate expected for the year. what we hear from the customers in the spring it's been a bit of a soft selling season which kinda confirms that low single-digit market growth rate expected for the year
Speaker 2: Very helpful. In terms of pricing, you know, Q4 about a 5%-6% benefit, again, 6% benefit this quarter. Have you taken or contemplated any additional price increases, given continued inflationary pressures? And as we think about the impact of pricing in Q2 as well as back half of the year, I know you mentioned kind of a $130 million all-in. Just any comments on cadence is certainly helpful. Thank you. Very helpful. very helpful In terms of pricing, you know, Q4 about a 5%-6% benefit, again, 6% benefit this quarter. in terms of pricing you know q4 about a 5%-6% benefit again 6% benefit this quarter Have you taken or contemplated any additional price increases, given continued inflationary pressures? have you taken or contemplated any additional price increases given continued inflationary pressures And as we think about the impact of pricing in Q2 as well as back half of the year, I know you mentioned kind of a $130 million all-in. and as we think about the impact of pricing in q2 as well as back half of the year i know you mentioned kind of a $130 million all-in Just any comments on cadence is certainly helpful. just any comments on cadence is certainly helpful Thank you. thank you
Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan. When we look at pricing going forward in Europe, we are seeing rising inputs in a lot of different areas. We have started doing the surcharges and done some price increases there, which we mentioned in our prepared remarks. We're certainly experiencing some rising costs across other parts of our business in North America. We're working really hard to take costs out and try to drive productivity with the expectation that we maintain our gross margins over the longer period of time. Yeah, Dan. yeah dan When we look at pricing going forward in Europe, we are seeing rising inputs in a lot of different areas. when we look at pricing going forward in europe we are seeing rising inputs in a lot of different areas We have started doing the surcharges and done some price increases there, which we mentioned in our prepared remarks. we have started doing the surcharges and done some price increases there which we mentioned in our prepared remarks We're certainly experiencing some rising costs across other parts of our business in North America. we're certainly experiencing some rising costs across other parts of our business in north america We're working really hard to take costs out and try to drive productivity with the expectation that we maintain our gross margins over the longer period of time. we're working really hard to take costs out and try to drive productivity with the expectation that we maintain our gross margins over the longer period of time
Speaker 5: Yeah. Dan, this is Matt. Just to answer your specific question, we haven't taken any additional price increases in North America beyond the two that we announced last year. Again, as we look forward, we're seeing those cost increases, whether it be fuel or potentially steel, but haven't contemplated or announced anything. Yeah. yeah Dan, this is Matt. dan this is matt Just to answer your specific question, we haven't taken any additional price increases in North America beyond the two that we announced last year. just to answer your specific question we haven't taken any additional price increases in north america beyond the two that we announced last year Again, as we look forward, we're seeing those cost increases, whether it be fuel or potentially steel, but haven't contemplated or announced anything. again as we look forward we're seeing those cost increases whether it be fuel or potentially steel but haven't contemplated or announced anything We're just really, you know, focused on, you know, maintaining and kind of preserving our growth margins. You know, we potentially have to look at that if things change, but right now, nothing in the works. We're just really, you know, focused on, you know, maintaining and kind of preserving our growth margins. we're just really you know focused on you know maintaining and kind of preserving our growth margins You know, we potentially have to look at that if things change, but right now, nothing in the works. you know, we potentially have to look at that if things change but right now nothing in the works
Speaker 2: Okay. Taking a step back from the macro, you know, good color and detail about, you know, increased penetration, particularly in some of those newer end markets, truss, some of the, you know, the outdoor decorative. Just, you know, if you wanna sort of dig in and give a little bit more color in terms of how things are progressing from a share gain perspective and what your expectations are for sort of outpacing the housing starts for the year from a volume perspective, assuming it does come in in that low single-digit range? Okay. okay Taking a step back from the macro, you know, good color and detail about, you know, increased penetration, particularly in some of those newer end markets, truss, some of the, you know, the outdoor decorative. taking a step back from the macro you know good color and detail about you know increased penetration particularly in some of those newer end markets truss some of the you know the outdoor decorative Just, you know, if you wanna sort of dig in and give a little bit more color in terms of how things are progressing from a share gain perspective and what your expectations are for sort of outpacing the housing starts for the year from a volume perspective, assuming it does come in in that low single-digit range? just you know if you wanna sort of dig in and give a little bit more color in terms of how things are progressing from a share gain perspective and what your expectations are for sort of outpacing the housing starts for the year from a volume perspective assuming it does come in in that low single-digit range
Speaker 6: Yeah. Again, Dan, let me start with the market just one more time. Again, delay in the census data, so we're not exactly sure how the first part of the year's played out. We're gonna get, I think, the first round of data in another couple of weeks, so that'll give us a little bit of a better feel. We do believe we are slightly ahead of the market based on off of the trailing twelve months. When we look at driving above-market growth, it comes back to those market playbooks that we have around those five market segments. We also have product playbooks all around trying to drive innovation, drive new customer gains, get additional shelf space, and get more content on the houses. Yeah. yeah Again, Dan, let me start with the market just one more time. again dan let me start with the market just one more time Again, delay in the census data, so we're not exactly sure how the first part of the year's played out. again delay in the census data so we're not exactly sure how the first part of the year's played out We're gonna get, I think, the first round of data in another couple of weeks, so that'll give us a little bit of a better feel. we're gonna get i think the first round of data in another couple of weeks so that'll give us a little bit of a better feel We do believe we are slightly ahead of the market based on off of the trailing twelve months. we do believe we are slightly ahead of the market based on off of the trailing twelve months When we look at driving above-market growth, it comes back to those market playbooks that we have around those five market segments. when we look at driving above-market growth it comes back to those market playbooks that we have around those five market segments We also have product playbooks all around trying to drive innovation, drive new customer gains, get additional shelf space, and get more content on the houses. we also have product playbooks all around trying to drive innovation drive new customer gains get additional shelf space and get more content on the houses When we look at some things we're particularly excited about, again, the component manufacturing business growing double-digit. Again, new customer wins there. We're very happy with how the truss business is developing. The Producer Tool has been out in the market for a while. It is cloud-based, so we've already been able to do multiple releases to respond quickly to some customer needs and questions around it. We're still feeling pretty confident about our Director and new design tool that's gonna be rolled out later this year. We're actively using AI to help us develop new software and new quality assurance in the truss space, so we're feeling pretty good about that, and we're getting, again, good feedback from our customers. In the OEM segment, you know, we've been talking about mass timber for a while. When we look at some things we're particularly excited about, again, the component manufacturing business growing double-digit. when we look at some things we're particularly excited about again the component manufacturing business growing double-digit Again, new customer wins there. again new customer wins there We're very happy with how the truss business is developing. we're very happy with how the truss business is developing The Producer Tool has been out in the market for a while. the producer tool has been out in the market for a while It is cloud-based, so we've already been able to do multiple releases to respond quickly to some customer needs and questions around it. it is cloud-based so we've already been able to do multiple releases to respond quickly to some customer needs and questions around it We're still feeling pretty confident about our Director and new design tool that's gonna be rolled out later this year. we're still feeling pretty confident about our director and new design tool that's gonna be rolled out later this year We're actively using AI to help us develop new software and new quality assurance in the truss space, so we're feeling pretty good about that, and we're getting, again, good feedback from our customers. we're actively using ai to help us develop new software and new quality assurance in the truss space so we're feeling pretty good about that and we're getting again good feedback from our customers In the OEM segment, you know, we've been talking about mass timber for a while. in the oem segment you know we've been talking about mass timber for a while These mass timber jobs just keep getting bigger and bigger, and they want a broad set of solutions from us that we're able to offer, and the Gallatin facility is gonna help us respond quicker. We've done some other things to help us do really these high-strength, heavy-duty, connectors packages for some of these big mass timber buildings out of our Riverside facility, and we're happy with the progress we've made there. Again, we're feeling good about it. At the end of the day, we wanna make sure that we're driving above market growth at that 20% operating income level. These mass timber jobs just keep getting bigger and bigger, and they want a broad set of solutions from us that we're able to offer, and the Gallatin facility is gonna help us respond quicker. these mass timber jobs just keep getting bigger and bigger and they want a broad set of solutions from us that we're able to offer and the gallatin facility is gonna help us respond quicker We've done some other things to help us do really these high-strength, heavy-duty, connectors packages for some of these big mass timber buildings out of our Riverside facility, and we're happy with the progress we've made there. we've done some other things to help us do really these high-strength heavy-duty connectors packages for some of these big mass timber buildings out of our riverside facility and we're happy with the progress we've made there Again, we're feeling good about it. again we're feeling good about it At the end of the day, we wanna make sure that we're driving above market growth at that 20% operating income level. at the end of the day we wanna make sure that we're driving above market growth at that 20% operating income level
Speaker 2: Great to hear. Last one, just a housekeeping. I think you said timing around the gain on sale of land H2. Has that been pushed out at all? Just trying to get a sense from a modeling perspective. Thanks again. Great to hear. great to hear Last one, just a housekeeping. last one just a housekeeping I think you said timing around the gain on sale of land H2. i think you said timing around the gain on sale of land h2 Has that been pushed out at all? has that been pushed out at all Just trying to get a sense from a modeling perspective. just trying to get a sense from a modeling perspective Thanks again. thanks again
Speaker 5: Yeah. Dan, this is Matt. It's definitely gonna be in the back half. It's been, you know, included in our guidance for the year. We didn't specify a quarter when we gave guidance three months ago, but we've got more visibility now that it's gonna be in the back half. TBD whether it's Q3 or Q4. We'll try to refine that, you know, once we get closer. Yeah. yeah Dan, this is Matt. dan this is matt It's definitely gonna be in the back half. it's definitely gonna be in the back half It's been, you know, included in our guidance for the year. it's been you know included in our guidance for the year We didn't specify a quarter when we gave guidance three months ago, but we've got more visibility now that it's gonna be in the back half. we didn't specify a quarter when we gave guidance three months ago but we've got more visibility now that it's gonna be in the back half TBD whether it's Q3 or Q4. tbd whether it's q3 or q4 We'll try to refine that, you know, once we get closer. we'll try to refine that you know once we get closer
Speaker 2: Super. Appreciate the color. I'll jump back with any follow-ups. Super. super Appreciate the color. appreciate the color I'll jump back with any follow-ups. i'll jump back with any follow-ups
Speaker 5: Okay. Okay. okay
Speaker 7: Our next question is from Trey Grooms with Stephens. Please proceed. Our next question is from Trey Grooms with Stephens. our next question is from trey grooms with stephens Please proceed. please proceed
Speaker 9: Hey, good afternoon, Mike and Matt. Hope you're doing well. Hey, good afternoon, Mike and Matt. hey good afternoon mike and matt Hope you're doing well. hope you're doing well
Speaker 5: Hey, Trey. Hey, Trey. hey trey
Speaker 6: Hey, Trey. Hey, Trey. hey trey
Speaker 9: Congrats on the quarter. Nice showing. Oh, yeah, you bet. Thanks for the color on the outlook you gave on housing. Makes a lot of sense. But how are you thinking about some of the other end markets? Sorry if I missed this, but are you still expecting demand, you know, for commercial to be kind of flattish? You kinda look into retail or you know, R&R for that to be you know, kind of flat to up a little bit? Any changes there? Congrats on the quarter. congrats on the quarter Nice showing. nice showing Oh, yeah, you bet. oh yeah, you bet Thanks for the color on the outlook you gave on housing. thanks for the color on the outlook you gave on housing Makes a lot of sense. makes a lot of sense But how are you thinking about some of the other end markets? but how are you thinking about some of the other end markets Sorry if I missed this, but are you still expecting demand, you know, for commercial to be kind of flattish? sorry if i missed this but are you still expecting demand you know for commercial to be kind of flattish You kinda look into retail or you know, R&R for that to be you know, kind of flat to up a little bit? you kinda look into retail or you know r&r for that to be you know kind of flat to up a little bit Any changes there? any changes there
Speaker 6: Yeah. When we look at our end markets, we're looking at several firms that help us get the U.S. housing starts number. That's the low single-digit range. When we look at the market numbers for residential, the national retail business or repair and renovation, when we look at that particular area, we're thinking basically flattish to maybe up 1%-ish in that range. In the commercial area, we're looking at starts, and we have a firm that helps us with that. There we're thinking low single-digit range. Then our OEM business, we really just kind of benchmark that versus the IPI, and that we expect to be low single digits. Yeah. yeah When we look at our end markets, we're looking at several firms that help us get the U.S. housing starts number. when we look at our end markets we're looking at several firms that help us get the u.s housing starts number That's the low single-digit range. that's the low single-digit range When we look at the market numbers for residential, the national retail business or repair and renovation, when we look at that particular area, we're thinking basically flattish to maybe up 1%-ish in that range. when we look at the market numbers for residential the national retail business or repair and renovation when we look at that particular area we're thinking basically flattish to maybe up 1%-ish in that range In the commercial area, we're looking at starts, and we have a firm that helps us with that. in the commercial area we're looking at starts and we have a firm that helps us with that There we're thinking low single-digit range. there we're thinking low single-digit range Then our OEM business, we really just kind of benchmark that versus the IPI, and that we expect to be low single digits. then our oem business we really just kind of benchmark that versus the ipi and that we expect to be low single digits
Speaker 9: Yep. Okay. Got it. No real change there. Maybe looking at, you know, geographically, I know you guys have seen some, you know, some mixed headwinds, I guess, geographically, some mixed headwinds from some underperformance in California and Florida, I guess, over the last few years. It sounds like some of the commentary we're hearing from out there in the market from home builders, et cetera. It sounds like Florida might be recovering somewhat. Anyway, any details maybe you guys could give us on what you're seeing geographically and maybe some of this, you know, mixed headwind, if you will, kind of starting to subside if Florida's starting to pick up. Yep. yep Okay. okay Got it. got it No real change there. no real change there Maybe looking at, you know, geographically, I know you guys have seen some, you know, some mixed headwinds, I guess, geographically, some mixed headwinds from some underperformance in California and Florida, I guess, over the last few years. maybe looking at you know geographically i know you guys have seen some you know some mixed headwinds i guess geographically some mixed headwinds from some underperformance in california and florida i guess over the last few years It sounds like some of the commentary we're hearing from out there in the market from home builders, et cetera. it sounds like some of the commentary we're hearing from out there in the market from home builders et cetera It sounds like Florida might be recovering somewhat. it sounds like florida might be recovering somewhat Anyway, any details maybe you guys could give us on what you're seeing geographically and maybe some of this, you know, mixed headwind, if you will, kind of starting to subside if Florida's starting to pick up. anyway any details maybe you guys could give us on what you're seeing geographically and maybe some of this you know mixed headwind if you will kind of starting to subside if florida's starting to pick up
Speaker 6: Yeah, Trey, good question. If we talk about just market specific, the state level data on starts is, there's a lot of variability depending upon the sources you look at. If you just look big picture, Florida and California, they are down significantly from their peak housing starts about three years ago. When we look at our business in California, a lot of engineering into it, especially from a seismic perspective. We continue to talk with customers that are saying they've got a strong backlog. A lot of projects are about ready to get kicked off in that area. But we have not yet started to realize that in our sales revenue. In Florida, from what we've seen, really no significant change for us at this point, and it's still a little soft. Yeah, Trey, good question. yeah trey good question If we talk about just market specific, the state level data on starts is, there's a lot of variability depending upon the sources you look at. if we talk about just market specific the state level data on starts is there's a lot of variability depending upon the sources you look at If you just look big picture, Florida and California, they are down significantly from their peak housing starts about three years ago. if you just look big picture florida and california they are down significantly from their peak housing starts about three years ago When we look at our business in California, a lot of engineering into it, especially from a seismic perspective. when we look at our business in california a lot of engineering into it especially from a seismic perspective We continue to talk with customers that are saying they've got a strong backlog. we continue to talk with customers that are saying they've got a strong backlog A lot of projects are about ready to get kicked off in that area. a lot of projects are about ready to get kicked off in that area But we have not yet started to realize that in our sales revenue. but we have not yet started to realize that in our sales revenue In Florida, from what we've seen, really no significant change for us at this point, and it's still a little soft. in florida from what we've seen really no significant change for us at this point and it's still a little soft
Speaker 9: Okay. All right. Sounds great. Keeping to some degree, maybe Matt, on the inventories down, you know, pretty significantly in the quarter, just by some, you know, you had some good sales improvements, actually stepped down sequentially. I understand that you guys usually build some inventory in the 1Q and then kind of work it down in seasonally stronger quarters. Any color you could give us on kind of how we should be thinking about that, given it's kinda, you know, lower level as we're kinda entering the building season, how we should be thinking about that seasonal trend? Okay. okay All right. all right Sounds great. sounds great Keeping to some degree, maybe Matt, on the inventories down, you know, pretty significantly in the quarter, just by some, you know, you had some good sales improvements, actually stepped down sequentially. keeping to some degree maybe matt on the inventories down you know pretty significantly in the quarter just by some you know you had some good sales improvements actually stepped down sequentially I understand that you guys usually build some inventory in the 1Q and then kind of work it down in seasonally stronger quarters. i understand that you guys usually build some inventory in the 1q and then kind of work it down in seasonally stronger quarters Any color you could give us on kind of how we should be thinking about that, given it's kinda, you know, lower level as we're kinda entering the building season, how we should be thinking about that seasonal trend? any color you could give us on kind of how we should be thinking about that given it's kinda you know lower level as we're kinda entering the building season how we should be thinking about that seasonal trend
Speaker 5: Sure, Trey. I mean, we're doing a lot of work to drive productivity on, you know, finished good and work in process inventory, and so that's playing out a little bit. When you look at our inventory drop in dollars, it shows up in pounds even more broadly. As you think about the cost of things is more expensive, so it doesn't quite show up in the dollars to the level it shows up in the pounds. We're down quite significantly on pounds. I would say the bulk of that drop, though, is really on the raw material side, so think of steel and steel coils. Sure, Trey. sure trey I mean, we're doing a lot of work to drive productivity on, you know, finished good and work in process inventory, and so that's playing out a little bit. i mean we're doing a lot of work to drive productivity on you know finished good and work in process inventory and so that's playing out a little bit When you look at our inventory drop in dollars, it shows up in pounds even more broadly. when you look at our inventory drop in dollars it shows up in pounds even more broadly As you think about the cost of things is more expensive, so it doesn't quite show up in the dollars to the level it shows up in the pounds. as you think about the cost of things is more expensive so it doesn't quite show up in the dollars to the level it shows up in the pounds We're down quite significantly on pounds. we're down quite significantly on pounds I would say the bulk of that drop, though, is really on the raw material side, so think of steel and steel coils. i would say the bulk of that drop though is really on the raw material side so think of steel and steel coils As we're kinda working through the inventory there, as you know, we tend to buy kind of in lumpier chunks when the market you know meets our needs and kind of a sweet spot for where we wanna be. It's gonna be a little bit lumpy on the raw material steel, and those prices are starting to move a little bit as we look forward. As we're kinda working through the inventory there, as you know, we tend to buy kind of in lumpier chunks when the market you know meets our needs and kind of a sweet spot for where we wanna be. as we're kinda working through the inventory there as you know we tend to buy kind of in lumpier chunks when the market you know meets our needs and kind of a sweet spot for where we wanna be It's gonna be a little bit lumpy on the raw material steel, and those prices are starting to move a little bit as we look forward. it's gonna be a little bit lumpy on the raw material steel and those prices are starting to move a little bit as we look forward I would expect that, you know, we'll probably bump back up a little bit on raw material throughout the course of the year, but at the same time, we're working on productivity on the finished goods and the work in process, so it may be a somewhat little bit offset, but hopefully, certainly not back to the peak we were on pounds. On dollars, it's a little bit tougher to say because the price per pound is going up. I think where we kinda started, 2026, would be sort of like a high watermark, and it would probably stay below that. I would expect that, you know, we'll probably bump back up a little bit on raw material throughout the course of the year, but at the same time, we're working on productivity on the finished goods and the work in process, so it may be a somewhat little bit offset, but hopefully, certainly not back to the peak we were on pounds. i would expect that you know we'll probably bump back up a little bit on raw material throughout the course of the year but at the same time we're working on productivity on the finished goods and the work in process so it may be a somewhat little bit offset but hopefully certainly not back to the peak we were on pounds On dollars, it's a little bit tougher to say because the price per pound is going up. on dollars it's a little bit tougher to say because the price per pound is going up I think where we kinda started, 2026, would be sort of like a high watermark, and it would probably stay below that. i think where we kinda started 2026 would be sort of like a high watermark and it would probably stay below that
Speaker 9: Got it. Okay. That's it for me. Thanks a lot, and I'll pass it on. Best of luck. Got it. got it Okay. okay That's it for me. that's it for me Thanks a lot, and I'll pass it on. thanks a lot and i'll pass it on Best of luck. best of luck
Speaker 6: Thanks, Trey. Thanks, Trey. thanks trey
Speaker 7: Our next question is from Kurt Yinger with D.A. Davidson. Please proceed. Our next question is from Kurt Yinger with D.A. our next question is from kurt yinger with d.a Davidson. davidson Please proceed. please proceed
Speaker 4: Great. Thanks. Just wanted to go back to pricing. Can you just talk a little bit about kind of the difference between the new $130 million versus the $100 million previously? Is that, I guess, just an updated view on what you'll capture, or does that encapsulate maybe some of these surcharges and whatnot you've discussed in Europe? Great. great Thanks. thanks Just wanted to go back to pricing. just wanted to go back to pricing Can you just talk a little bit about kind of the difference between the new $130 million versus the $100 million previously? can you just talk a little bit about kind of the difference between the new $130 million versus the $100 million previously Is that, I guess, just an updated view on what you'll capture, or does that encapsulate maybe some of these surcharges and whatnot you've discussed in Europe? is that i guess just an updated view on what you'll capture or does that encapsulate maybe some of these surcharges and whatnot you've discussed in europe
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kurt, this is Matt. Your previous guidance was about $100 million annualized. If you recall from our previous quarter release, we realized about $60 million of that in 2025, which would have implied, you know, additional $40 million in 2026. We're upping the annualized number to $130 million, so that would imply, you know, $70 million in 2026 incremental. It's a combination of some of the pricing we've enacted in Europe, you know, particularly related to the surcharges, but also some price increases. A little bit of product mix in North America, which is driving more pricing. If you think about the products that had higher price increases, that's primarily fasteners and anchors. Yeah, Kurt, this is Matt. yeah kurt this is matt Your previous guidance was about $100 million annualized. your previous guidance was about $100 million annualized If you recall from our previous quarter release, we realized about $60 million of that in 2025, which would have implied, you know, additional $40 million in 2026. if you recall from our previous quarter release we realized about $60 million of that in 2025 which would have implied you know additional $40 million in 2026 We're upping the annualized number to $130 million, so that would imply, you know, $70 million in 2026 incremental. we're upping the annualized number to $130 million so that would imply you know $70 million in 2026 incremental It's a combination of some of the pricing we've enacted in Europe, you know, particularly related to the surcharges, but also some price increases. it's a combination of some of the pricing we've enacted in europe you know particularly related to the surcharges but also some price increases A little bit of product mix in North America, which is driving more pricing. a little bit of product mix in north america which is driving more pricing If you think about the products that had higher price increases, that's primarily fasteners and anchors. if you think about the products that had higher price increases that's primarily fasteners and anchors You know, they're continuing to grow a little bit faster than the connector business, which provides some additional dollars when you just look at the pricing impact. Doesn't necessarily drive better gross margin or better op income, but when you look at pricing quantification on dollars realized from pricing, it does benefit there. It's really a combination of those two things that's kinda upped it to that $130 number. You know, they're continuing to grow a little bit faster than the connector business, which provides some additional dollars when you just look at the pricing impact. you know they're continuing to grow a little bit faster than the connector business which provides some additional dollars when you just look at the pricing impact Doesn't necessarily drive better gross margin or better op income, but when you look at pricing quantification on dollars realized from pricing, it does benefit there. doesn't necessarily drive better gross margin or better op income but when you look at pricing quantification on dollars realized from pricing it does benefit there It's really a combination of those two things that's kinda upped it to that $130 number. it's really a combination of those two things that's kinda upped it to that $130 number
Speaker 4: Okay. That makes a whole lot of sense. I appreciate that. Just on the cost side, I mean, it doesn't sound like the change in Section 232 tariffs is really having any impact on you guys, but I would appreciate it if you just touched on that. As well as, you know, on the freight side with the self-distribution angle, how is, you know, transportation and freight costs, I guess, shared among you guys and customers? Is that a situation similar to Europe where there are surcharges, but those are just passed along? Can you talk a little bit about that? Okay. okay That makes a whole lot of sense. that makes a whole lot of sense I appreciate that. i appreciate that Just on the cost side, I mean, it doesn't sound like the change in Section 232 tariffs is really having any impact on you guys, but I would appreciate it if you just touched on that. just on the cost side i mean it doesn't sound like the change in section 232 tariffs is really having any impact on you guys but i would appreciate it if you just touched on that As well as, you know, on the freight side with the self-distribution angle, how is, you know, transportation and freight costs, I guess, shared among you guys and customers? as well as you know on the freight side with the self-distribution angle how is you know transportation and freight costs i guess shared among you guys and customers Is that a situation similar to Europe where there are surcharges, but those are just passed along? is that a situation similar to europe where there are surcharges but those are just passed along Can you talk a little bit about that? can you talk a little bit about that
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. On the Section 232 tariffs, the announcements that came out, I think, early April, don't really have much of an impact for us. The tariffs that we were paying are pretty much staying the same. If you think about the fuel rates and things that are impacting surcharges there, I mean, we're seeing it some from our suppliers, you know, passing along surcharges, changing rates, you know, weekly sometimes. A lot of our shipments travel prepaid freight, so we have not put any surcharges in place. So, from time to time, we have to adjust the amount of, you know, a purchase that is able to travel with prepaid freight for free. So, meaning sometimes you have to up the minimum purchase. Yeah, you're right. yeah you're right On the Section 232 tariffs, the announcements that came out, I think, early April, don't really have much of an impact for us. on the section 232 tariffs the announcements that came out i think early april don't really have much of an impact for us The tariffs that we were paying are pretty much staying the same. the tariffs that we were paying are pretty much staying the same If you think about the fuel rates and things that are impacting surcharges there, I mean, we're seeing it some from our suppliers, you know, passing along surcharges, changing rates, you know, weekly sometimes. if you think about the fuel rates and things that are impacting surcharges there i mean we're seeing it some from our suppliers you know passing along surcharges changing rates you know weekly sometimes A lot of our shipments travel prepaid freight, so we have not put any surcharges in place. a lot of our shipments travel prepaid freight so we have not put any surcharges in place So, from time to time, we have to adjust the amount of, you know, a purchase that is able to travel with prepaid freight for free. so from time to time we have to adjust the amount of you know a purchase that is able to travel with prepaid freight for free So, meaning sometimes you have to up the minimum purchase. so meaning sometimes you have to up the minimum purchase I don't believe we've done any of that yet, but that's some of the things that we're considering. We are seeing an impact in our 2026 outlook from increased fuel costs. We haven't acted on passing any of that through, but we're kinda actively monitoring it and, you know, kinda see where it shakes out, what level it goes to, and then evaluate the best way to, again, try to make sure that we're preserving our gross margin. I don't believe we've done any of that yet, but that's some of the things that we're considering. i don't believe we've done any of that yet but that's some of the things that we're considering We are seeing an impact in our 2026 outlook from increased fuel costs. we are seeing an impact in our 2026 outlook from increased fuel costs We haven't acted on passing any of that through, but we're kinda actively monitoring it and, you know, kinda see where it shakes out, what level it goes to, and then evaluate the best way to, again, try to make sure that we're preserving our gross margin. we haven't acted on passing any of that through but we're kinda actively monitoring it and you know kinda see where it shakes out what level it goes to and then evaluate the best way to again try to make sure that we're preserving our gross margin
Speaker 4: Okay. Got it. Then just on the volume side, I mean, a really good quarter for the North American residential business it seems. Is there anything to call out there that might have been, you know, a transitory boost? Maybe looking at the full year, I mean, sounds like you kind of trimmed the expectations for housing starts. If we look at the comps, you know, the first half is very difficult, gets easier in the back half. Just given the positive performance here in Q1, I guess, is there any reason to believe that wouldn't be sustainable just as comps get a little bit easier? Okay. okay Got it. got it Then just on the volume side, I mean, a really good quarter for the North American residential business it seems. then just on the volume side i mean a really good quarter for the north american residential business it seems Is there anything to call out there that might have been, you know, a transitory boost? is there anything to call out there that might have been you know a transitory boost Maybe looking at the full year, I mean, sounds like you kind of trimmed the expectations for housing starts. maybe looking at the full year i mean sounds like you kind of trimmed the expectations for housing starts If we look at the comps, you know, the first half is very difficult, gets easier in the back half. if we look at the comps you know the first half is very difficult gets easier in the back half Just given the positive performance here in Q1, I guess, is there any reason to believe that wouldn't be sustainable just as comps get a little bit easier? just given the positive performance here in q1 i guess is there any reason to believe that wouldn't be sustainable just as comps get a little bit easier
Speaker 6: Kurt, we're very pleased with the development our residential business team has made. We continue to leverage the business model, and with that shift we made about three years ago of going from a product-focused sales team to a market-focused sales team, that's enabled us to really cross-sell the complete product line. We've continued to develop our warehouse network so that we're closer to customers, and we can make sure that we get to a very large percentage of our customers. They place an order today in the morning, we ship it in the afternoon, they get it the next day. I think all that added up, Kurt, just continue to get more content on houses and pick up more shelf space with our lumberyards and pro dealer customers. Kurt, we're very pleased with the development our residential business team has made. kurt we're very pleased with the development our residential business team has made We continue to leverage the business model, and with that shift we made about three years ago of going from a product-focused sales team to a market-focused sales team, that's enabled us to really cross-sell the complete product line. we continue to leverage the business model and with that shift we made about three years ago of going from a product-focused sales team to a market-focused sales team that's enabled us to really cross-sell the complete product line We've continued to develop our warehouse network so that we're closer to customers, and we can make sure that we get to a very large percentage of our customers. we've continued to develop our warehouse network so that we're closer to customers and we can make sure that we get to a very large percentage of our customers They place an order today in the morning, we ship it in the afternoon, they get it the next day. they place an order today in the morning we ship it in the afternoon they get it the next day I think all that added up, Kurt, just continue to get more content on houses and pick up more shelf space with our lumberyards and pro dealer customers. i think all that added up kurt just continue to get more content on houses and pick up more shelf space with our lumberyards and pro dealer customers
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kurt, I think as you look at your comments around back half comps and things, certainly our volume comps get a little bit easier in the back half when you compare it to what we did in the last half of last year. Also, you know, including a little bit of expectation that the market is, you know, potentially gonna be a little softer as we go throughout 2026 as we kinda updated our guidance. I mean, part of the challenge now is we're flying a little bit blind on what is the market doing because there's been delays in reporting and, you know, even going back to 2025 actuals, I think they're still subject to revision from the Census Bureau later this week when they publish the February and March starts numbers. Yeah, Kurt, I think as you look at your comments around back half comps and things, certainly our volume comps get a little bit easier in the back half when you compare it to what we did in the last half of last year. yeah kurt i think as you look at your comments around back half comps and things certainly our volume comps get a little bit easier in the back half when you compare it to what we did in the last half of last year Also, you know, including a little bit of expectation that the market is, you know, potentially gonna be a little softer as we go throughout 2026 as we kinda updated our guidance. also you know including a little bit of expectation that the market is you know potentially gonna be a little softer as we go throughout 2026 as we kinda updated our guidance I mean, part of the challenge now is we're flying a little bit blind on what is the market doing because there's been delays in reporting and, you know, even going back to 2025 actuals, I think they're still subject to revision from the Census Bureau later this week when they publish the February and March starts numbers. i mean part of the challenge now is we're flying a little bit blind on what is the market doing because there's been delays in reporting and you know even going back to 2025 actuals i think they're still subject to revision from the census bureau later this week when they publish the february and march starts numbers We believe we're outperforming the market a little bit on volume. We certainly expect to continue to do that, but you know, what that market's gonna look like quarter on quarter that we're comparing to is a little bit up in the air, as we kinda gotta see where we shake out here in the first quarter, and we get the numbers and see where we were. You know, the outlook for the year has gotten a little bit worse from our perspective, kind of backed up by you know, most of the market forecasters out there. They're saying it's gonna be a little bit softer in 2026. We believe we're outperforming the market a little bit on volume. we believe we're outperforming the market a little bit on volume We certainly expect to continue to do that, but you know, what that market's gonna look like quarter on quarter that we're comparing to is a little bit up in the air, as we kinda gotta see where we shake out here in the first quarter, and we get the numbers and see where we were. we certainly expect to continue to do that but you know what that market's gonna look like quarter on quarter that we're comparing to is a little bit up in the air as we kinda gotta see where we shake out here in the first quarter and we get the numbers and see where we were You know, the outlook for the year has gotten a little bit worse from our perspective, kind of backed up by you know, most of the market forecasters out there. you know the outlook for the year has gotten a little bit worse from our perspective kind of backed up by you know most of the market forecasters out there They're saying it's gonna be a little bit softer in 2026. they're saying it's gonna be a little bit softer in 2026
Speaker 4: Okay. That makes sense. Just lastly, on the national retail side, the weakness there, it seemed like over 25, there were some points where sell-in didn't necessarily match sell-through, but POS has kinda turned now. Do you think that's just a function of the overall project environment in a lot of the categories that you're serving or more so maybe a skew to customers going with, you know, a more value-sensitive approach in terms of products? I guess, any thoughts on kind of the performance there early this year? Okay. okay That makes sense. that makes sense Just lastly, on the national retail side, the weakness there, it seemed like over 25, there were some points where sell-in didn't necessarily match sell-through, but POS has kinda turned now. just lastly on the national retail side the weakness there it seemed like over 25 there were some points where sell-in didn't necessarily match sell-through but pos has kinda turned now Do you think that's just a function of the overall project environment in a lot of the categories that you're serving or more so maybe a skew to customers going with, you know, a more value-sensitive approach in terms of products? do you think that's just a function of the overall project environment in a lot of the categories that you're serving or more so maybe a skew to customers going with you know a more value-sensitive approach in terms of products I guess, any thoughts on kind of the performance there early this year? i guess any thoughts on kind of the performance there early this year
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say that that we're seeing a shift in the value performance story. Kurt, if somebody's coming into one of the national retail customers, especially a pro, I mean, they know exactly what products they're looking for. I wouldn't necessarily say that. I think we've had some time over the last probably six months, where point of sale data and our sales into the national retailers was a little bit disconnected. It's kinda flipped and gone the opposite way in the first quarter. We continue to work with them to help them develop the business by merchandising activities. We continue to push our outdoor living solutions product line, which has had pretty good growth over several years now. I wouldn't say that that we're seeing a shift in the value performance story. i wouldn't say that that we're seeing a shift in the value performance story Kurt, if somebody's coming into one of the national retail customers, especially a pro, I mean, they know exactly what products they're looking for. kurt if somebody's coming into one of the national retail customers especially a pro i mean they know exactly what products they're looking for I wouldn't necessarily say that. i wouldn't necessarily say that I think we've had some time over the last probably six months, where point of sale data and our sales into the national retailers was a little bit disconnected. i think we've had some time over the last probably six months where point of sale data and our sales into the national retailers was a little bit disconnected It's kinda flipped and gone the opposite way in the first quarter. it's kinda flipped and gone the opposite way in the first quarter We continue to work with them to help them develop the business by merchandising activities. we continue to work with them to help them develop the business by merchandising activities We continue to push our outdoor living solutions product line, which has had pretty good growth over several years now. we continue to push our outdoor living solutions product line which has had pretty good growth over several years now We're working hard with the pro desks with our national retail customers. We've provided some estimating services, and we're doing other things to help them really cross-sell the full product line. We think over time, that'll all play out in the short term. We do occasionally see some inventory shifts with those guys, and that's been reflected in the numbers the last six months or so. We're working hard with the pro desks with our national retail customers. we're working hard with the pro desks with our national retail customers We've provided some estimating services, and we're doing other things to help them really cross-sell the full product line. we've provided some estimating services and we're doing other things to help them really cross-sell the full product line We think over time, that'll all play out in the short term. we think over time that'll all play out in the short term We do occasionally see some inventory shifts with those guys, and that's been reflected in the numbers the last six months or so. we do occasionally see some inventory shifts with those guys and that's been reflected in the numbers the last six months or so
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think, Kurt, just to add, I think just to cap it off, I think it's good to see that trend reverse a little bit in terms of sell-in versus sell-out. We'd seen, you know, several quarters in a row where, you know, our POS units were quite a bit better than our sell-in. One quarter doesn't make a trend, but, you know, good to kinda stop that trend, and then we'll kinda see where it goes from here. Yeah. yeah I think, Kurt, just to add, I think just to cap it off, I think it's good to see that trend reverse a little bit in terms of sell-in versus sell-out. i think kurt just to add i think just to cap it off i think it's good to see that trend reverse a little bit in terms of sell-in versus sell-out We'd seen, you know, several quarters in a row where, you know, our POS units were quite a bit better than our sell-in. we'd seen you know several quarters in a row where you know our pos units were quite a bit better than our sell-in One quarter doesn't make a trend, but, you know, good to kinda stop that trend, and then we'll kinda see where it goes from here. one quarter doesn't make a trend but you know good to kinda stop that trend and then we'll kinda see where it goes from here
Speaker 4: Got it. Okay. Appreciate the color, guys. Thank you. Got it. got it Okay. okay Appreciate the color, guys. appreciate the color guys Thank you. thank you
Speaker 5: Thanks, Kurt. Thanks, Kurt. thanks kurt
Speaker 6: Thanks, Kurt. Thanks, Kurt. thanks kurt
Speaker 7: Our next question is from Tim Wojs with Baird. Please proceed. Our next question is from Tim Wojs with Baird. our next question is from tim wojs with baird Please proceed. please proceed
Speaker 8: Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Nice. Hey, guys. hey guys Good afternoon. good afternoon Nice. nice
Speaker 5: Hey, Tim. Thank you. Hey, Tim. hey tim Thank you. thank you
Speaker 8: Nice job on the results and the inventory number. I guess maybe just my first question, just if I remember right, you guys were expecting about $30 million of annualized cost savings from some of the SG&A actions you took last year. What was the realization in the first quarter? I don't know if I missed that. Nice job on the results and the inventory number. nice job on the results and the inventory number I guess maybe just my first question, just if I remember right, you guys were expecting about $30 million of annualized cost savings from some of the SG&A actions you took last year. i guess maybe just my first question just if i remember right you guys were expecting about $30 million of annualized cost savings from some of the sg&a actions you took last year What was the realization in the first quarter? what was the realization in the first quarter I don't know if I missed that. i don't know if i missed that
Speaker 5: If you remember, Tim, the $30 million was about 2/3 SG&A and 1/3 in COGS. That was kinda how we framed up the $30 million net. Then we said in the last quarter that we expected $10 million-$15 million on a annualized basis below last year's SG&A spend, actuals. In the first quarter, SG&A was actually up $1 million, but you gotta peel it back a little bit. There's two big drivers there. One, exchange rate with a $4.2 million hurt on that, so that's the translation of European expenses back to dollars. We also had about $2 million of one-time related costs to our cost savings initiatives that were in the first quarter. If you remember, Tim, the $30 million was about 2/3 SG&A and 1/3 in COGS. if you remember tim the $30 million was about 2/3 sg&a and 1/3 in cogs That was kinda how we framed up the $30 million net. that was kinda how we framed up the $30 million net Then we said in the last quarter that we expected $10 million-$15 million on a annualized basis below last year's SG&A spend, actuals. then we said in the last quarter that we expected $10 million-$15 million on a annualized basis below last year's sg&a spend actuals In the first quarter, SG&A was actually up $1 million, but you gotta peel it back a little bit. in the first quarter sg&a was actually up $1 million but you gotta peel it back a little bit There's two big drivers there. there's two big drivers there One, exchange rate with a $4.2 million hurt on that, so that's the translation of European expenses back to dollars. one exchange rate with a $4.2 million hurt on that so that's the translation of european expenses back to dollars We also had about $2 million of one-time related costs to our cost savings initiatives that were in the first quarter. we also had about $2 million of one-time related costs to our cost savings initiatives that were in the first quarter If you take those two kind of at face value and say we are up one, you know, we were down about $5 million net-net. I think an important point is what we mentioned in the script on headcount. Our SG&A headcount is down about 9% when you look year-over-year. I would say, you know, the realization in the first quarter, if you kind of adjust for FX and, you know, the one-time cost is in the, you know, call it $3 million-$5 million range. If you kind of project that across the course of the year, you can kind of get, you know, pretty close to that number we said would be the net number we expect to be down, you know, by the end of the year versus last year's actuals. If you take those two kind of at face value and say we are up one, you know, we were down about $5 million net-net. if you take those two kind of at face value and say we are up one you know we were down about $5 million net-net I think an important point is what we mentioned in the script on headcount. i think an important point is what we mentioned in the script on headcount Our SG&A headcount is down about 9% when you look year-over-year. our sg&a headcount is down about 9% when you look year-over-year I would say, you know, the realization in the first quarter, if you kind of adjust for FX and, you know, the one-time cost is in the, you know, call it $3 million-$5 million range. i would say you know the realization in the first quarter if you kind of adjust for fx and you know the one-time cost is in the you know call it $3 million-$5 million range If you kind of project that across the course of the year, you can kind of get, you know, pretty close to that number we said would be the net number we expect to be down, you know, by the end of the year versus last year's actuals. if you kind of project that across the course of the year you can kind of get you know pretty close to that number we said would be the net number we expect to be down you know by the end of the year versus last year's actuals
Speaker 8: Okay, great. No, that's really helpful. Thanks. Then on the component manufacturing business, just I think last quarter it might have been up low single-digit and now it's up double-digit. Is that just kind of the lumpiness that can be kind of inherent in that business? Or was there a pretty significant amount of adds in the component business specifically? Okay, great. okay great No, that's really helpful. no that's really helpful Thanks. thanks Then on the component manufacturing business, just I think last quarter it might have been up low single-digit and now it's up double-digit . then on the component manufacturing business just i think last quarter it might have been up low single-digit and now it's up double-digit Is that just kind of the lumpiness that can be kind of inherent in that business? is that just kind of the lumpiness that can be kind of inherent in that business Or was there a pretty significant amount of adds in the component business specifically? or was there a pretty significant amount of adds in the component business specifically
Speaker 6: Yeah. It is a little lumpy, Tim, as you know, cause it takes a bit of effort to convert a customer. We continue to add customers, and we've added a couple the last months of 2025 that are now starting to build in 2026. Yeah. yeah It is a little lumpy, Tim, as you know, cause it takes a bit of effort to convert a customer. it is a little lumpy tim as you know cause it takes a bit of effort to convert a customer We continue to add customers, and we've added a couple the last months of 2025 that are now starting to build in 2026. we continue to add customers and we've added a couple the last months of 2025 that are now starting to build in 2026
Speaker 8: Okay. Is there any way to just, on that business, just kind of give us a kind of a ballpark figure to maybe how big it is today? Okay. okay Is there any way to just, on that business, just kind of give us a kind of a ballpark figure to maybe how big it is today? is there any way to just on that business just kind of give us a kind of a ballpark figure to maybe how big it is today
Speaker 6: No. We have not, Tim. We have not commented on the size of the component manufacturing business or the different market segments. No. no We have not, Tim. we have not tim We have not commented on the size of the component manufacturing business or the different market segments. we have not commented on the size of the component manufacturing business or the different market segments
Speaker 5: Other than we said, you know, publicly the market size and kind of our rough share position, I know you've heard that before, so let me kind of ballpark you somewhere, so. Other than we said, you know, publicly the market size and kind of our rough share position, I know you've heard that before, so let me kind of ballpark you somewhere, so. other than we said you know publicly the market size and kind of our rough share position i know you've heard that before so let me kind of ballpark you somewhere so
Speaker 8: Okay. That's what I track. Well, no, but thanks for this and good luck on the rest of you guys. Thanks. Okay. okay That's what I track. that's what i track Well, no, but thanks for this and good luck on the rest of you guys. well no but thanks for this and good luck on the rest of you guys Thanks. thanks
Speaker 5: All right. Thanks, Tim. All right. all right Thanks, Tim. thanks tim
Speaker 7: Our final question is from Andrew Carter with Stifel. Please proceed. Our final question is from Andrew Carter with Stifel. our final question is from andrew carter with stifel Please proceed. please proceed
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks. Good evening. Just wanted to ask in terms of the residential volume performance up slightly. I know you're taking your guidance down to low single digits%, but I think based on the sources you have, customer conversations, I would assume that your guidance is assuming that there was a pretty deep decline in the first quarter that improves throughout the year. Is that fair or is anything in any of my assumptions there flawed? Hey, thanks. hey thanks Good evening. good evening Just wanted to ask in terms of the residential volume performance up slightly. just wanted to ask in terms of the residential volume performance up slightly I know you're taking your guidance down to low single digits%, but I think based on the sources you have, customer conversations, I would assume that your guidance is assuming that there was a pretty deep decline in the first quarter that improves throughout the year. i know you're taking your guidance down to low single digits% but i think based on the sources you have customer conversations i would assume that your guidance is assuming that there was a pretty deep decline in the first quarter that improves throughout the year Is that fair or is anything in any of my assumptions there flawed? is that fair or is anything in any of my assumptions there flawed
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I'd say deep decline. I think, you know, when the numbers come out, I think we'll, you know, we expect to see that the market was down in the first quarter from a housing start standpoint. Then I think keep in mind, you know, the back half of last year was the worst part of last year compared to the front half of last year, which actually I think had slight growth when you look at the front half from a market standpoint. The comps are a little bit different. You know, I think it would be. You know, if you're doing the math on how do you get to down low single digits for the market, the front half has a tougher set of comps. Yeah. yeah I mean, I don't know if I'd say deep decline. i mean i don't know if i'd say deep decline I think, you know, when the numbers come out, I think we'll, you know, we expect to see that the market was down in the first quarter from a housing start standpoint. i think you know when the numbers come out i think we'll you know we expect to see that the market was down in the first quarter from a housing start standpoint Then I think keep in mind, you know, the back half of last year was the worst part of last year compared to the front half of last year, which actually I think had slight growth when you look at the front half from a market standpoint. then i think keep in mind you know the back half of last year was the worst part of last year compared to the front half of last year which actually i think had slight growth when you look at the front half from a market standpoint The comps are a little bit different. the comps are a little bit different You know, I think it would be. you know i think it would be You know, if you're doing the math on how do you get to down low single digits for the market, the front half has a tougher set of comps. you know if you're doing the math on how do you get to down low single digits for the market the front half has a tougher set of comps You know, I think potentially the front half could look worse and then the back half could look a little bit better, but probably more a function of what you're comparing to than a change in the starts rate. You know, I think potentially the front half could look worse and then the back half could look a little bit better, but probably more a function of what you're comparing to than a change in the starts rate. you know i think potentially the front half could look worse and then the back half could look a little bit better but probably more a function of what you're comparing to than a change in the starts rate
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Then kind of wanted to kind of build on that component manufacturer question, truss, you know, the kind of reacceleration you had in the quarter. You mentioned customer wins. I mean, how often do those occur? Do you get those, like, a shot at that annually? I mean, is that double-digit run rate something you can carry through the year just because you have the customers? Is there any kind of unlocks you get as you roll out the rest of the software program later in the year? Just any thoughts on that cadence. Gotcha. gotcha Then kind of wanted to kind of build on that component manufacturer question, truss, you know, the kind of reacceleration you had in the quarter. then kind of wanted to kind of build on that component manufacturer question truss you know the kind of reacceleration you had in the quarter You mentioned customer wins. you mentioned customer wins I mean, how often do those occur? i mean how often do those occur Do you get those, like, a shot at that annually? do you get those like a shot at that annually I mean, is that double-digit run rate something you can carry through the year just because you have the customers? i mean is that double-digit run rate something you can carry through the year just because you have the customers Is there any kind of unlocks you get as you roll out the rest of the software program later in the year? is there any kind of unlocks you get as you roll out the rest of the software program later in the year Just any thoughts on that cadence. just any thoughts on that cadence
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think. If you step back and you look at those customers, we've been working with them for a long time in a variety of other businesses, especially all the larger pro dealers. I mean, they know us very well. A lot of the smaller to mid-size guys, we've known these customers for a long time. They know the Simpson service and the approach that we take to working with customers. We've also been talking with them over the last 12-18 months about the development we're making with the software. We've been giving regular updates to it. We've been showing some demos and just letting people see how it develops. Yeah, I think. yeah i think If you step back and you look at those customers, we've been working with them for a long time in a variety of other businesses, especially all the larger pro dealers. if you step back and you look at those customers we've been working with them for a long time in a variety of other businesses especially all the larger pro dealers I mean, they know us very well. i mean they know us very well A lot of the smaller to mid-size guys, we've known these customers for a long time. a lot of the smaller to mid-size guys we've known these customers for a long time They know the Simpson service and the approach that we take to working with customers. they know the simpson service and the approach that we take to working with customers We've also been talking with them over the last 12-18 months about the development we're making with the software. we've also been talking with them over the last 12-18 months about the development we're making with the software We've been giving regular updates to it. we've been giving regular updates to it We've been showing some demos and just letting people see how it develops. we've been showing some demos and just letting people see how it develops I think you kinda add all that up, that is what has helped us continue to grow, is they wanna work with a long-term partner that operates like Simpson. We do our level best to take great care of the customer. We believe that our plans to have a cloud-based solution that is very customer-friendly and contracting terms that are a little bit more customer-friendly, it's gonna create some additional opportunities for us. They see the investment that we've made in this space really over the last couple years. I think that's opened some doors, and that's made some people realize that we would be the partner of choice going forward for them. I think you kinda add all that up, that is what has helped us continue to grow, is they wanna work with a long-term partner that operates like Simpson. i think you kinda add all that up that is what has helped us continue to grow is they wanna work with a long-term partner that operates like simpson We do our level best to take great care of the customer. we do our level best to take great care of the customer We believe that our plans to have a cloud-based solution that is very customer-friendly and contracting terms that are a little bit more customer-friendly, it's gonna create some additional opportunities for us. we believe that our plans to have a cloud-based solution that is very customer-friendly and contracting terms that are a little bit more customer-friendly it's gonna create some additional opportunities for us They see the investment that we've made in this space really over the last couple years. they see the investment that we've made in this space really over the last couple years I think that's opened some doors, and that's made some people realize that we would be the partner of choice going forward for them. i think that's opened some doors and that's made some people realize that we would be the partner of choice going forward for them
Speaker 1: Final question, kinda gear up. I think you said something about flat, low single digits over the next two years. Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought that was kinda the expectation. For this year, it obviously started out down 5% organic this quarter. I guess that would be the market where you might see incremental weakness from, you know, the energy prices, etc., but it's also two-thirds commercial, it's a longer cycle. Any update on that market or do you see further risk of that declining? Just any help there. Thank you. Final question, kinda gear up. final question kinda gear up I think you said something about flat, low single digits over the next two years. i think you said something about flat low single digits over the next two years Correct me if I'm wrong. correct me if i'm wrong I thought that was kinda the expectation. i thought that was kinda the expectation For this year, it obviously started out down 5% organic this quarter. for this year it obviously started out down 5% organic this quarter I guess that would be the market where you might see incremental weakness from, you know, the energy prices, etc., but it's also two-thirds commercial, it's a longer cycle. i guess that would be the market where you might see incremental weakness from you know the energy prices etc but it's also two-thirds commercial it's a longer cycle Any update on that market or do you see further risk of that declining? any update on that market or do you see further risk of that declining Just any help there. just any help there Thank you. thank you
Speaker 6: Yeah. When we look at the composite index that we built based on the countries we operate in and the mix, as you said, between residential and commercial, and we use, again, experts that pull those forecasts in to help us get the numbers. Our thoughts going in were flat to low single digits, and the fact that they had a tough first couple of months because of weather really hasn't changed that, right? I think there is some optimism in the market in Europe. To be quite honest, 0%-2% or 3% will be better than we've had the last three or four years and certainly better than what we've had in the U.S. the last four years. We're hoping that plays out. Yeah. yeah When we look at the composite index that we built based on the countries we operate in and the mix, as you said, between residential and commercial, and we use, again, experts that pull those forecasts in to help us get the numbers. when we look at the composite index that we built based on the countries we operate in and the mix as you said between residential and commercial and we use again experts that pull those forecasts in to help us get the numbers Our thoughts going in were flat to low single digits, and the fact that they had a tough first couple of months because of weather really hasn't changed that, right? our thoughts going in were flat to low single digits and the fact that they had a tough first couple of months because of weather really hasn't changed that right I think there is some optimism in the market in Europe. i think there is some optimism in the market in europe To be quite honest, 0%-2% or 3% will be better than we've had the last three or four years and certainly better than what we've had in the U.S. the last four years. to be quite honest 0%-2% or 3% will be better than we've had the last three or four years and certainly better than what we've had in the u.s the last four years We're hoping that plays out. we're hoping that plays out In the meantime, we're focusing on the things that we can control, and that's just trying to pick up new applications, shelf space, more content on jobs. In the meantime, we're focusing on the things that we can control, and that's just trying to pick up new applications, shelf space, more content on jobs. in the meantime we're focusing on the things that we can control and that's just trying to pick up new applications shelf space more content on jobs
Speaker 1: All for me. Thank you very much. All for me. all for me Thank you very much. thank you very much
Speaker 5: All right. Thanks Andrew. All right. all right Thanks Andrew. thanks andrew
Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you. thank you
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