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SHERWIN WILLIAMS CO Call Transcript 2026

Jan 29, 2026

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SHERWIN WILLIAMS CO

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Good morning. Thank you for joining The Sherwin-Williams Company’s review of fourth quarter and full year 2025 results and our outlook for the first quarter and full year of 2026. With us on today’s call are Heidi Petz, Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Ben Meisenzahl, Chief Financial Officer, Paul Lang, Chief Accounting Officer, and Jim Jaye, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications. This conference call is being webcast simultaneously in listen-only mode by Access Newswire via the Internet at www.sherwin.com. An archive replay of this webcast will be available at www.sherwin.com beginning approximately two hours after this conference call concludes. This conference call will include certain forward-looking statements as defined under the U.S. Federal Securities laws with respect to sales, earnings, and other matters. Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of the date on which such statement is made, and the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. A full declaration regarding forward-looking statements is provided in the company's earnings release transmitted earlier this morning. After the company's prepared remarks, we will open the session to questions. I will now turn the call over to Jim Jaye. Thank you, and good morning to everyone. Sherwin-Williams ended the year with strong fourth quarter results, driven by solid core performance and inclusive of the first full quarter of the Suvinil acquisition. Consolidated sales in the fourth quarter increased by a mid-single-digit percentage, inclusive of a low single-digit contribution from Suvinil. Reported gross margin was flattish year-over-year, but expanded, excluding the dilutive impact of the Suvinil acquisition. SG&A, as a percent of sales, decreased year-over-year, including severance and other restructuring expenses and Suvinil, reflecting our disciplined, ongoing cost control measures. Adjusted diluted net income per share in the quarter increased by 6.7%. Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter grew 13.4% and expanded 100 basis points to 17.7% as a percent of sales. Free cash flow conversion in the quarter was 90.1%. In terms of our segments in the fourth quarter, Paint Stores Group sales increased in the range we expected, led by high single-digit growth in Protective and Marine against a high single-digit comp. Residential Repaint remained solid and growth was just slightly below the mid-single-digit range and also against a high single-digit comp. Group sales included positive low single-digit price mix, partially offset by a low single-digit decrease in volume. Segment margin expanded 90 basis points to 20.8%. Consumer Brands Group sales exceeded our expectations. Sales from the Suvinil acquisition and positive low single-digit FX were partially offset by price mix and volume, both of which were down less than a percentage point. Sales in the underlying business, excluding Suvinil, were essentially flat, which was better than we expected and drove the top-line beat. Adjusted segment margin decreased, including a negative impact from Suvinil and related transaction closing costs and purchase accounting items. Adjusted segment margin increased, excluding these impacts. Within Performance Coatings Group, sales were at the high end of expectations, led by strength in Packaging and Auto Refinish. Adjusted segment margin improved 150 basis points to 19%, driven by new business wins, as well as good control of SG&A, which was down mid-single digits. We also continued our strong cost control efforts within the administrative segment, where SG&A was down a low single-digit percentage in the quarter, including one-time restructuring costs of approximately $2 million. Excluding these restructuring costs and the non-annualized new building operating costs, administrative SG&A was down by a low teens percentage, improving on third quarter results that were down low double digits, demonstrating our continued tight management of G&A costs. The slide deck accompanying our press release this morning provides more detail on fourth quarter segment results. Let me now turn it over to Heidi, who will provide a few full year highlights before moving on to our 2026 outlook and your questions. Thank you, Jim, and good morning. I want to start by thanking our 65,000 global employees for their dedication and determination to deliver a solid year during one of the more challenging operating environments our company has seen. Sherwin-Williams celebrates 160 years in 2026, and it's because of our employees and our culture that we're able to deliver sustainable results through all types of cycles. Our team continues to execute our playbook while finding new ways to help our customers become more productive and more profitable. I'm proud of what our team accomplished in 2025. At this time last year, we talked about the potential for a softer for longer demand environment, and that is exactly what we saw play out as there was no meaningful improvement in demand across our end markets. Our team refused to wait for the market and instead focused on creating opportunities and controlling what we could control. We stayed true to our strategy, made targeted investments, focused on share gains, and executed on our enterprise priorities. We continued to deliver innovative solutions for our customers, and in a disruptive, competitive environment, Sherwin-Williams stood out by being a consistent, reliable, and dependable partner. Our success by design approach resulted in our team delivering record full-year consolidated sales and record adjusted diluted earnings per share. Gross profit dollars and gross margin expanded. Adjusted EBITDA dollars and adjusted EBITDA margin also expanded. It was also another very strong year for cash generation, with net operating cash growing 9.4% to $3.5 billion, or 14.6% of sales. This percent of sales is right in the middle of the most recent target range that we've previously announced. Free cash flow was $2.7 billion, and free cash flow conversion for the year was 59%. In terms of capital allocation, our policy remains consistent. We returned $2.5 billion to shareholders through share repurchases in our dividend, which we raised for the 47th consecutive year. We completed the acquisition of Suvinil, and we continued to make strategic CapEx investments, including our new global headquarters and Global Technology Center, which opened at the end of the year. We've been talking about these buildings for years, and we are thrilled that we are here. The move-in is going extremely well, and I'm confident that this will continue to strengthen our culture of collaboration, innovation, and winning together. All in, we ended 2025 with a strong balance sheet and a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 2.3x. Looking at our reportable segments on a full year basis, Paint Stores grew sales by a low single-digit %. Protective and Marine increased by high single digits. Residential Repaint increased by mid single digits, and for the third year in a row, meaningfully outperformed the market, where existing home sales remained soft. Low single-digit growth in Commercial reflects share gains and above-market performance, as multifamily completions were down significantly during the year. Share gains are also evident in Property Maintenance and New Residential, both of which were flattish in a down market characterized by muted CapEx spending, high rates, and affordability challenges. Segment margin increased, reflecting operating leverage and solid returns on our investments. We also added 80 net new stores and 87 net new sales territories. Consumer Brands' full-year sales grew by a low single-digit %, driven by the Suvinil acquisition, as underlying sales decreased by low single digits, resulting from soft DIY demand in North America and unfavorable FX. Adjusted segment margin decreased, including a negative impact from Suvinil, as we previously described, as well as lower production in the segment's manufacturing operations to match softer demand, resulting in lower fixed cost absorption. Performance Coatings' full-year sales varied by division and geography and were flat overall, which outpaced a very challenging industrial demand backdrop. Acquisitions added a low single-digit % in the year, and FX was a slight tailwind, but these were offset by unfavorable price mix. Packaging grew at the high end of high single digits as we continued to win new business globally, including those complying with new non-BPA coating requirements. Auto Refinish was flat for the year, with share gains becoming more evident in the second half, where sales were up mid-single digits. Coil sales decreased by low single digits as meaningful new account wins were not enough to offset steel tariff impacts. Industrial Wood and General Industrial each decreased by low single digits, driven by soft housing and industrial markets, respectively. Adjusted segment margin remained in our high teens target range, but was impacted by unfavorable geographic mix as Europe grew by mid-single digits while other regions were down low single digits. As we close out 2025, I'm also pleased to share that we are reinstating our 401(k) matching program for eligible US employees, effective February 1st. We'll also be restoring the matching contributions that have been paused since October 1st by the end of our first quarter. As I described last quarter, the decision to pause the company match was made after we had implemented multiple cost savings initiatives and significant restructuring actions, driven by multiyear demand and macroeconomic uncertainty. Given what we anticipated back in July, and with the prospect of additional risks materializing, we faced a difficult decision, either pursue further workforce reductions or temporarily pause the 401(k) company match. While many companies chose widespread layoffs, we chose a different path. We chose to protect jobs, retain talent, and invest in the long-term health of the organization by keeping our teams intact. We also committed to restoring the match as soon as performance allowed, just as we have done in the past. Our teams responded exactly as strong teams do. We elevated our performance and focused on controlling what we could control, including winning new business, growing share of wallet, pricing discipline, and accelerating further cost reductions. We demonstrated what truly differentiates Sherwin-Williams. At the same time, some of the risks that we saw in July did not materialize or were less severe than expected, including the delayed realization of some tariff impacts. The combination of all these factors is enabling us to both resume and retroactively restore the match sooner than originally anticipated. Now, moving on to our 2026 guidance. The demand environment feels much like it did a year ago. The softer for longer dynamic we described again back in October remains intact. While some conditions are gradually becoming more stable, many of the indicators we track, along with cautious consumer sentiment, provide little support for any broad-based or accelerated recovery at this time. This environment is likely to persist well into 2026. The slide deck issued with our press release lays out our key economic assumptions for 2026. I'd also like to provide you with some additional color that informs our outlook. On the architectural side of the business, Residential Repaint remains our single biggest growth opportunity, and we have and will continue to make investments to win here. Demand remains difficult to predict, with industry forecasts for existing home sales growth varying widely from slightly down to up double digits. The mortgage rate lock-in effect remains real. Harvard's LIRA Index is projecting very modest growth, and select retailers have forecasted flattish home improvement growth as a base case. Additionally, consumer sentiment remains muted. These same dynamics also signal another potentially challenging year for DIY. We expect the new residential market to be down at least in the mid-single digit range this year, given negative single-family starts over the back half of 2025, and many forecasters' expectations for further softening in 2026. National Association of Home Builders sentiment levels were notably negative exiting 2025, and mortgage rates remain in the 6+ range. We welcome meaningful economic and policy proposals to address affordability and increase supply, though these will take time to finalize, implement, and take effect. We expect to outperform the market as we continue strengthening our home builder customer relationships. In the commercial segment, the Architectural Billings Index has continued its long run of negative readings. We do see a bright spot in multifamily starts, which were positive for most of the second half of 2025. However, these starts won't turn to completions and painting until late this year and into 2027. We are pleased with the share gains we are making here, as demonstrated by our above-market growth over the second half of 2025, and which we expect will continue throughout 2026. Property Maintenance CapEx spending still appears to be idling in neutral, though we are well positioned to capture pent-up demand when rates moderate. We expect flattish sales as we continue to grow our account base to help offset core softness. In Protective and Marine, the project pipeline remains solid, though the timing of starts and completions remain variable. We expect this business, along with Residential Repaint, to be the best sales performers in Paint Stores Group this year. On the industrial side, the U.S. manufacturing PMI ended at its lowest point in the year in December, after ten months of contraction. Brazil and the Eurozone PMIs are also contracting. Optimism is easing in China, and the PMI there remains below its historical average. We see a 2026 backdrop where our core business remains flat at best, but strong new account wins from last year and this year, along with positive price mix, to drive low single-digit sales growth in Performance Coatings Group. We expect modest growth in Auto Refinish, driven by share gains and price mix, with the industry remaining flattish to down, given pressure on consumers and related softness of insurance claims. In Coil, we expect flattish sales as the market remains under pressure related to steel tariffs. In Packaging, share gains and our industry-leading non-BPA coatings should drive flattish sales against a tough double-digit comparison. Our Industrial Wood and General Industrial divisions had the strongest new account growth in the group last year. We expect these wins to drive low single-digit growth in both of these divisions, even as core demand remains very weak. In summary, for the third year in a row, the market is not going to give us much help, and for the third year in a row, we expect to outperform the market and grow sales and earnings per share. We'll continue to remain extremely aggressive, with a focus on helping existing customers grow, as well as winning new business and converting share gains. I want to be very transparent here. We're providing guidance that we believe is very realistic given this backdrop. We are also confident that if the market is better than we're currently seeing, we would expect to outperform the guidance that we are providing to start the year. The slide deck issued with this morning's press release includes our expectations for consolidated and segment sales for the first quarter of 2026. The deck also includes our initial expectations for the full year, where consolidated sales are expected to be up a low- to mid-single-digit %, and diluted net income per share is expected to be in the range of $10.70-$11.10 per share. Excluding acquisition-related amortization expense of approximately $0.80 per share, adjusted diluted net income per share is expected in the range of $11.50-$11.90, an increase of 2.4% at the midpoint compared to 2025's adjusted diluted net income per share of $11.43.... I'll note that at the $11.70 midpoint, earnings growth will outpace the midpoint of our core sales growth, excluding the impact of Suvinil sales. Our slide deck contains several additional data points that provide important context that I'd also like to briefly address. Any comparisons described are year-over-year. From a sales perspective, I'll remind you that the Paint Stores Group implemented a 7% price increase effective January 1st. Realization should be in the low single-digit range, given market dynamics and segment mix. We are also implementing targeted price increases in specific areas with our other two reportable segments. We expect the market basket of raw materials to be up a low single-digit % in 2026, driven by tariffs, along with select commodities also inflating. We expect to overcome these raw material headwinds and deliver full-year gross margin expansion, given both incremental 2026 pricing and accelerated simplification efforts across our supply chain. We expect GAAP SG&A dollars to grow by a low single-digit % in 2026, inclusive of a low single-digit contribution from Suvinil. As we pointed out last quarter, interest expense will be up this year. This increase includes approximately $40 million related to the lease payments for our new global headquarters and approximately $35 million of interest related to the $1.1 billion, one year delayed draw term loan that we executed in September. It also includes approximately $15 million in increased interest expense related to refinancing at higher rates. We expect to end the year within our current long-term target debt to EBITDA leverage ratio of 2-2.5 times. We expect to open 80-100 net new stores in the U.S. and Canada in 2026. We'll also continue adding sales reps and territories, accelerating innovation and expanding our digital capabilities. Next month, at our Board of Directors meeting, we will recommend an annual dividend increase of 1.3% to $3.20 per share, up from $3.16 last year. If approved, this will mark the 48th consecutive year we've increased our dividend. We expect to continue making opportunistic share repurchases. We'll also continue to evaluate acquisitions that fit and accelerate our strategy. In addition, our slide deck provides guidance on our expectations for currency exchange, effective tax rate, CapEx, depreciation, and amortization. Finally, I'll remind you that as our first quarter is a seasonally smaller one, we do not plan to make any updates to full year guidance up or down until our second quarter is completed, at which point we will have a better view of how the paint and coatings season is unfolding. Sherwin-Williams is extremely well-positioned as we enter 2026. Again, while we expect little, if any, help in terms of end market demand, our teams refuse to be discouraged by these near-term trends. We know stronger demand will return at some point, driven by powerful demographics and enduring market fundamentals. But we're not waiting for that moment. We're focused on winning today and securing our long-term future. We know the playbook, stay true to our proven customer-first strategy, control what we can control, and turn volatility into opportunity. That means relentlessly pursuing new accounts and share of wallet, innovating in and out of the can, investing where returns are clear, maintaining price-cost discipline, advancing our enterprise priorities, and driving accountability to ensure flawless execution. This is how we grow and create value, regardless of market cycles. We're proud of what we've accomplished, but we're even more energized by the opportunities ahead. Across every business, we see room to grow, innovate, and lead. Our focus remains sharp, grow sales, drive returns on sales and assets, and generate cash. We'll continue to deliver unique solutions for customers and outperform the market. This is a great time to continue demonstrating what makes Sherwin-Williams so unique. We win when our customers win, and that is exactly what we plan to do. I'd like to end where I started by thanking our team for being truly the best in the industry. This concludes our prepared remarks, and with that, I'd like to thank you for joining us this morning, and we'll be happy to take your questions. Certainly. Everyone at this time will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone at this time. We do ask that while posing your question, please pick up your handset if you're listening on speakerphone, to provide optimum sound quality. We do ask that participants please ask one question. Once again, if you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone. Our first question is coming from Ghansham Panjabi from Baird. Your line is live. Yeah. Thanks, operator. Good morning, everybody. I guess first off, on the, you know, Performance Coatings segment, the margin outperformance there relative to at least our expectations, the incremental seemed very, very high in 4Q, and I know you called out some of the more profitable businesses like Packaging and Auto Refinish being up nicely, et cetera. But can you just give us a bit more color in terms of what drove that? Yeah, Ghansham, good morning. I think what you're seeing there clearly is discipline on display. This is an organization led under Karl Jorgenrud, been in the industry for over 30 years, and I think this is an environment where we're in the fifth straight year of a challenging demand environment. The team stood tall and delivered, and you're gonna see this play out... a very clear, aggressive focus on new business wins, taking market share, but also a lot of heavy lifting in, we talk about simplification in our enterprise priorities, taking complexity out of the business. I'm very pleased with some of the heavy lifting there. Having said that, we're early innings, and I'll hand it over to Ben here to jump in. Hey, Ghansham, Ben Meisenzahl. Yeah, adding to what Heidi said there, you know, I point to the two halves of PCG. Heidi called out simplification. SG&A has been a focus of this team here. They've consistently been able to keep their SG&A at a moderated pace, considering where volumes are at. But if I look at the two halves, I think that's a good way to look at it here. We were under pressure, the first part of the year, right after the election, and we started seeing some of the new policies take shape. There might have been some hesitation. The operating margin was backwards, about 100 basis points in the first half. The second half, adjusted operating margin showed 20 basis points worth of improvement. The second half was at 17.9%, pretty close to where, you know, the we ended 2024. Obviously, the 19%, you know, the good pop in, in the fourth quarter. And so I, I, agree with what Heidi said there. It just comes down to discipline, focus on SG&A. I think this is also a good example. We always talk about the operating margin and not looking just at gross margin or SG&A. Here's a really good example of, of why we do that, because we're able to demonstrate and grow operating margin because of really good SG&A controls. Thank you, Ghansham. Thank you. Our next question is coming from John McNulty from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is live. Yeah, good morning. Thanks for taking my question and maybe kind of a decent segue from that last question. On the SG&A outlook for 2026, I guess, can you help us to think about what you're factoring in, etc.—what kind of level of growth we should be expecting? 'Cause I know you continue to invest even when the markets struggle. You've also got this 401(k) match coming back in. So I guess, can you help us to think about how that should play out as the year progresses? Hey, John. Yeah, the way to think about that, and we called out, you know, Heidi talked about in her opening comments, with reinstating the 401(k) and doing our retroactive match, we're apples to apples, 2025 versus 2024. And so that—the catch-up contribution as it relates to, to 2025 earnings, we're apples to apples there. And so because we did that, as you look 2024, 2025, and then into 2026, there is no, quarter-to-quarter, year-over-year, 401(k), impact. As you look at broader SG&A, you know, as we called out in the opening remarks, SG&A up a low single digit. That obviously includes the history of the restructuring costs that we took in 2025, and then you layer on the incremental Suvinil, which is also a low single digit. So you can do the math there to figure out the core versus Suvinil. But really what we have, you know, embedded there is, you know, that low single digit growth. Again, that points right back to the cost controls, everything that we talked about throughout the year here. We had about $40 million in savings in 2025. You saw that our one-time restructuring costs were a little bit higher than what we guided to in October. That's gonna give us the ability to upsize the other $40 million that we initially called out. That's probably closer to $46 million in savings in 2026. And so again, really proud of what the teams are doing to really control cost while volumes are challenged. John, I give Ben a lot of credit. He uses this phrase of to the team, and for those employees listening, I'm talking to you here, too: We wanna earn our SG&A, right? And so we're gonna always pace that to volume, and you're gonna see that discipline play out throughout the year. Thank you, John. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Chris Parkinson from Wolfe Research. Your line is live. Great. Thank you so much. You know, can we talk about some of the things that, are more or less in your control in terms of your guidance and, you know, just how you, Ben, and Al are thinking about it in terms of the implied, gross margin guide? You know, just perhaps just a quick comments on healthcare labor assumptions, the raw basket. It seems like there's some divergences between solvents, acrylics, and CO2, asset utilization. Just kind of just what underpins that and what gives you the confidence that that is the correct framework, at least to begin the year? Thank you so much. Yeah, good morning, Chris. This is Jim. I'll start with the raws piece of your question. So as you saw in our slide deck, we're guiding to our raw material basket to be up a low single-digit % this year. That includes tariffs and some of the commodities inflating. In particular, I'd say the areas where we're seeing the most pressure would be on the Packaging side of our basket, also non-TiO2 pigments, extenders, things of that nature. Also some pressure on resins, and I'd say that's a little bit heavier weighted on the industrial side of the basket. But those are the things that are driving the raw material guidance that we're laying out. Yeah, Chris, I'll add on to the SG&A side and just the overall cost side. You think about we called out in the admin segment, interest expense, you know, being a headwind for next year. So when you look at the growth that we have in our admin spending next year, about half of that is gonna be interest expense, and then half of it is normalization of other non-operating costs and just your general SG&A. And you called out healthcare. We've all seen the headlines, healthcare up, you know, double digits. We're in that camp. We have things that we can do to mitigate that, so what we're passing on to our employees isn't as meaningful as that, so we're trying to be, you know, really diligent there. But, you know, we've continued to try to, you know, keep that cost low. If I go back and point to some of the opening comments on the admin SG&A, you know, the core SG&A, we've been able to keep that down low double digits, you know, down low teens, and that just demonstrates again, the levers we're able to pull to make sure we can keep that the costs in check, knowing that, again, we're in that lower volume environment right now. Thank you, Chris. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Greg Melich from Evercore ISI. Your line is live. Hi, thanks. I wanted to follow up on, on price mix, in the fourth quarter, and then also the, seven percent price hike on January 1. I, I guess it looks like it was 3%-3.5% price mix in Q4. And with the price increase coming in in January, why wouldn't we expect that to be more, going into the first quarter in 2026? Yeah, Greg, I'll start, and I'll hand this over to Ben to give a little bit more color, but I'll take you back to some of the comments I said in my prepared remarks relative to market dynamics. You know, we are looking at the competitive environment. I would frame it more as a jump ball environment, to be honest with you. So we're going to continue to be, as you would expect, extremely aggressive as it relates to chasing volume right now. So there's a balance. The team is very prepared. There's a lot of tenure in the organization. They know how to strike that right balance. But I'm very confident that when we get our customers in, I'm very confident in the team's ability to work with them to add value and continue to you know, trade them into more premium products that ultimately is gonna make them more productive. Let me hand it to Ben to comment on the quarter. Yeah, I agree with everything Heidi said there. And again, we've talked about that price mix, you know, looking at incremental pricing and, you know, mix of some of the business as well. And so you may have, you know, a little bit of noise in there, but Heidi hit the nail on the head with volume. I mean, we've talked about, in this environment, prioritizing volume, and so as our teams know, that high effectiveness is critical, you know, for us to get to the high end of our guide. We're gonna continue to, you know, put the pressure on there to capture as much price as we can, but we're not gonna put volume at risk to do that. And so yeah, that may be what's a little bit different than what you've seen in the past. But still very confident in our gross margin targets that we put out, and we're gonna hold to that. Thank you, Greg. Thank you. Our next question is coming from David Begleiter from Deutsche Bank. Your line is live. Thank you. Good morning. Heidi, can you discuss the impact of the severe winter weather on your current demand trends? Does that mean that Q1 EPS could be down year-over-year just because of the weather impacts? Thank you. Hey, David, it's Ben. Let me make a couple comments here. I mean, I realize right now in the midst of, you know, watching the storm go through this week, we have weather every quarter. I mean, it impacts us every year. If you remember last year, you know, we had the Gulf winter storm. It had all the classic, ice, you know, wind, snow, everything that you would expect with a winter storm like that. But our Southeast Division and our Southwestern Division, they deal with weather at this time of year, every single year, and so, no concerns there right now. Thank you, David. Thank you. Our next question is coming from John Roberts from Mizuho. Your line is live. Thank you. Your packaging coatings performance is impressive here. Have we recovered to new highs since the correction you had? How much more is left in terms of the conversion of the industry? Yeah. Good morning, John. I, I would tell you, you know, we've essentially recovered a lot of what we said was kind of temporary share loss, and but that doesn't mean that we're happy with where we are. There's still a lot more to go get. I, I really like our position here with our leading technology. We continue to win and demonstrate value. We've got some, obviously, dynamics playing out. EFSA, the European Food Safety Association's ban on BPA, that's gonna be taking effect in Q2. We know that that will continue to drive more customer conversions for us, so really like our position here. So we're, we're in good shape. Jim, maybe if you could comment on a few of those areas. Yeah. I would add to that, John, that, you know, in terms of how much is left to go, I would say that in Asia and LATAM, there's still quite, quite a bit to go. You know, North America, and as Heidi just pointed out, Europe are farther ahead on that. But in terms of that conversion, those other regions still have quite a ways to go. Thanks for the question. Thank you. Your next question is coming from Aleksey Yefremov from KeyBank Capital Markets. Your line is live. Thanks. Good morning. Heidi, I wanted to come back to your comments on focusing more on volumes than price this year. I guess typically this could lead to a bit of a zero-sum game, where your competitors would also focus on volumes. Is there something that's different right now about competitive environment? Maybe your competitors cannot afford lower prices, so they have to raise their prices and cede some volume. Or is there another dynamic that kind of makes your strategy of being more volume focused the right one this year? So, Aleksey, let me reframe what I heard you say. I think you said not putting volume above price, and I would say it's not putting volume above price. It's being very balanced in our view here. And so in this, it's a jump ball, competitive environment. There's a lot of market share up for grabs right now, and we're not going to lose our minds, lose our way. We're very disciplined when it comes to pricing, but we wanna make sure that the teams are empowered out in the front lines to convert some of these larger, bigger customers that weren't in Sherwin-Williams family before. We're gonna be dog on a bone in chasing that business. ... Aleksey, I'll add to that. You know, we've always talked about volume as the number one driver of our operating margin. And so when you look over the long term, getting that, that wider base of, of business, getting that share of wallet and the, and new accounts in, and even when we bring them in, we have ways in our stores, wherever the customer is in their, you know, their journey, to help get them up into those premium products and other ways that, that flows into that price mix as well. But we recognize over the long term, you know, that, that securing the volume, the right volume that we want, is, is how we get to our, our midterm and long-term goals. One piece Ben just said, and I think it's really important to emphasize: when we bring our contractors in, the confidence we have in treating them up to premium is they are making more money as a result of working with these higher-end, better products. And I'll remind you, the total cost, labor comprises 85%-87% of their total cost. So their willingness to pay a premium to get on and off of job sites faster, have less touch-up, less quality issues, especially in an inflationary environment, it plays to our strengths. Thanks, Aleksey. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Jeffrey Zekauskas from JP Morgan. Your line is live. Thanks very much. Your Residential Repaint sales were up low single digits, but your prices were probably up higher than that. So were Residential Repaint volumes flat or down? And have they decelerated through the course of the year, and if so, why? Hey, Jeff. If you look at the fourth quarter, we were last year, we had we were up against a really strong comp in Residential Repaint. We were up a high single digit, and so that had a little bit of impact of what you're seeing here for the third quarter. We remain very confident in Res Repaint. This is where, you know, we get, we made all a lot of investments. We're at the biggest opportunity for share gains. We're very confident with that segment, with our pricing realization. I think we're we continue to be very happy with where Res Repaint is. Obviously, as you look forward into 2026, that's a segment that we're gonna continue to count on and invest in. This is also a segment we have a lot of confidence in because we continue year-over-year to outperform the market, and so I wouldn't characterize it, Jeff, as slowing. I think, if you go back into some of our history, last two years, there was a surge as we continued to focus on taking that Kelly-Moore share. That's now in our history and behind us, so you're probably seeing a little bit of that. But in terms of what is out there, the amount of market share to be gained is extraordinary, and we're gonna chase it. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Vincent Andrews from Morgan Stanley. Your line is live. Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Wondering if you can help us bridge consumer brands from the fourth quarter performance on the top line up about 25%, with Suvinil in the mid-20s, to your expectations for 1Q and for the full year, with 1Q up low-to-mid-teens now, and the full year up high single to low doubles, recognizing that you have to comp Suvinil late in the year. But what does that imply that, you know, the existing business is gonna do from a volume price mix perspective? And then what is your FX assumption within there as well? Thank you. Hey, Vincent. Yeah, so going from fourth quarter into next year, I mean, you nailed it. We got the annualization that's obviously gonna have a sizable impact through the third quarter of next year when we annualize. The underlying business, I mean, as Heidi talked about in her opening comments, I mean, there's still a lot of challenges with the North American DIY market. We don't expect that to be an overperformer for us until we see some of the housing catalysts really catch. You asked about, you know, pricing. All of our businesses have some level of pricing embedded in their guide for next year, and so it even though we don't go out all at the same time like we do for Paint Stores Group, you should expect that there are some targeted price increases, not only for Consumer Brands Group, but also for Performance Coatings Group, that could differ by the different business units or by region. And then FX, you know, when you look at a full year basis, and we do have Consumer Brands Group down a low single digit because of FX. That's mainly gonna come in the second half of the year, and that's mainly coming from headwinds that we anticipate in Latin America. And I'll mention on the Suvinil piece, because I can't help it. We're really excited about this acquisition and the progress that we're making. It's obviously early, but the teams are laser-focused. We've got a dedicated integration team so that our commercial teams can remain laser-focused on our customer and business continuity. I think that we're certainly pulling out the Valspar playbook, the rigor behind customers and employees, and making sure that we're keeping the... What's happening in the market is going to be really important here. We've got an opportunity to demonstrate why these brands are better together, why these teams are better together, so that we can drive innovation with a market-leading brand, and I'm very confident in what we're gonna be able to do in Brazil. Thank you, Vincent. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Josh Spector from UBS. Your line is live. Yeah, hey, good morning. So I was trying to go through all the macro assumptions you have in that slide, which is very helpful. When I put that all together, it seems to say that maybe you're thinking the market in your Paint Stores Group is down something like 1%, maybe 2% next year. If I look at your Paint Stores Group guidance, you know, you're flat, your store addition's typically at 1%. So, to me, that implies that you're basically saying you do closer to in line with the market versus outperform by 1% or 2%. I'm just curious if you know disagree with any of that framing. Is the market lower? Are you assuming more? Just square that with the comments you've been talking about earlier, about, you know, focus on gaining volumes and share gains. Thanks. ... Josh, respectfully, I disagree. We, the market is down, I think probably hard to characterize it, but I would say it's down more than that. And where we look at our performance base case, we've guided to down single to up single, and the controllables in that space, and I'll point to Residential Repaint, where we continue to take share in a down market. We're gonna continue to make the investments, putting a new store in every four days, continue to invest in dedicated reps. We're investing in innovation. In fact, in the end of the quarter, we're gonna be launching a zero VOC plant-based interior coating that will be the best paint we've ever made. And it's because we're that confident in our ability to convert share with Residential Repaint. I hand over to Ben to speak to any of the other segments here. Yeah, I mean, if I take it to, you know, talking about, you know, volume here, I think one thing to point at in Paint Stores Group is the ability, even in, you know, a challenged volume market, to still, you know, grow incremental margins. And you look at what happened in the fourth quarter, with volumes down low single digit, with through good cost control, you know, we're able to generate, you know, almost a 50% incremental margin. And if you look at, you know, the full year, I mean, it's almost 40%, again, in a volume challenged environment. And so we're gonna continue to find ways, in, you know, despite what's happening in the market, to continue to drive margin. Thanks, Josh. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Mike Sisson from Wells Fargo. Your line is live. Hey, good morning. How do you mention that you'd welcome some, you know, policies or proposals to, to, to help affordability increase supply? You know, what do you think would be helpful in terms of, you know, maybe sparking a recovery in, in paint demand this year? And then quick follow-up in Protective and Marine had another good year. Is that mostly the protective side, and does it go into data centers? And if it does, you know, how big and what's the potential there? Thank you. Great. Well, Mike, I thought you were gonna offer up a policy recommendation, so yeah, we look at this kind of a three-legged stool, if you will. I don't know that it's gonna be one without the other. I think it's a combination of household income, rates, and affordability. And so as we come into, you know, a year of a midterm election, we'll see what moves there. But at the end of the day, our builders, our partners, are still, you know, still hesitating and waiting to see for some of those things to be solved. I think we're in an environment here where, as we partner with these, our builders, and I remind you, we've got a pretty healthy position with some of the largest builders from an exclusive standpoint. So our ability to lock in with them, help them see around the corner and plan, is gonna be important now more than ever. I'll move on to the PNM side, and yeah, it is higher on the protective side than the marine side. And you said it right, Mike, it—this is where Sherwin-Williams is so exceptionally well positioned because of the boom we see with AI infrastructure. As you look across that PNM division and the healthy pipeline that the team is working on and what we can bring to market, these data centers, for example, if you look at every coating that every surface that needs to be coated, we've got a solution. Our high-performance flooring, that we've just made some acquisitions in recently, puts us in market leadership position, and you're gonna see us be extremely bullish, as we move forward. Yeah. Mike, I'll add just one more thing. I mean, going back to, you know, the first question in the politics, and Heidi laid that out well. You know, what that all means to us as it relates to our outlook, you know, if there are things that happen, if there are policies that are implemented that become tailwinds for us, the plan that we have built, you know, is gonna enable us to capture those and win from those. So I know we outlined on slide nine of the presentation, you know, some of our economic assumptions, and so we're gonna be watching to see if there are policy adjustments that could turn some of those metrics better for us, and in turn, you should expect our performance to mirror that. Thanks, Mike. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Patrick Cunningham from Citi. Your line is live. Hi, good morning. So Heidi, throughout the past year and a half, you've talked about, you know, capitalizing on opportunities, you know, disruption in the industry. And given the recent, you know, mega-merger announcement, there's potentially some fresh disruption. So how would you characterize the opportunity set, maybe within more of your industrial-facing businesses? Yeah, it's a great question. I think the word disruption is the right word. When you think about what's in play there, obviously there's it impacts several of our divisions. And the teams are gonna continue to be very aggressive out there. You know, but when I step back and look at the big picture over the last few years, I think it's safe to say that by and large, there's been a lot of shift across the competitive set on both architectural and industrial. And what I'm most excited about is the stability of our strategy. We've got a rock-solid strategy. We've got the playbook. We've got the management team, the team out in the field every day, clarity about how to execute that playbook. So we mentioned earlier that there's, you know, we take volatility as an opportunity to create opportunity, whether that's in the macro or in the competitive landscape. We're gonna be just that. We're gonna continue to stay close and get closer to our customers, find new ways to solve their challenges, and we're gonna come out winning. Thank you, Patrick. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Arun Viswanathan from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is live. ... Great. Thanks for taking my question. Hope you guys are well. I guess I just wanted to understand the element of potential conservatism in the guide here and maybe what, what could get you to the upper end. It sounds like, you know, you will be implementing that price increase, maybe get 2-3 points out of that. And then, you know, would it be mainly volume in Paint Stores Group? I mean, we have seen some improvement in existing home sales over the last few months. And are you kind of assuming kind of, you know, continued softness in commercial and new? Maybe you can just kind of go through some of the verticals within Paint Stores Group and see how, you know, maybe some of the different scenarios could play out and maybe push you towards the upper end of that guide. Thanks. Hey, Arun. You know, I'll start with saying that, you know, when you look at our outlook, I would call it realistic. And again, if I point back to the presentation deck and the economic assumptions that have the foundation of our guidance, you can see how, you know, we're framing that out. And I'll point to a couple of the indicators. You know, if you look at existing home turnover, there's a wide varying range of assumptions next year. You have some people that think it's going to be back 1%-2%. You've got some that are reporting it could be as high as 14%. And so I think what's important for us to share and the reason that we put that slide together, so you could anchor on—you could see where we were anchoring our basis for our midpoint guidance. And so we feel in that example, with existing home sales, it's more realistic to be, you know, in that low single digit range, absent any, you know, major policy shifts or anything else that we talked about. And so, the basis of that foundation, I think we feel very, you know, comfortable and confident with. And as I mentioned earlier, if those indicators get better, if we see, you know, rates, you know, trend lower, if existing home sales turnover is higher, if consumer confidence and affordability gets better, you should expect that our results are higher than the midpoint that we're providing. Thank you, Arun. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Duffy Fischer from Goldman Sachs. Your line is live. Yeah, good morning. Could we go back to Consumer Brands Group? I just want to understand the margin implication of Suvinil coming in and the cost-cutting programs. So do we need to kind of model a 2% decline year-over-year until we anniversary Suvinil, and then, you know, it kind of bounces back up towards normal? Or how to think about that playing out throughout this year, and then once we've anniversaried it, what does it look like? Hey, Duffy. Yeah, if you think about, the fourth quarter is generally a lower margin quarter, for us anyway. And as we talked about, you know, coming out of our second quarter call, you know, we, Consumer Brands Group, we have some supply chain inefficiencies built in there, and that was, you know, due to targeted, production volume, reductions as, as we're trying to manage our inventory to the end of the year. So with Suvinil, I know there's a lot of noise there. With Suvinil coming in, that doesn't, that doesn't help as well. But what I will tell you is that, you know, from an operating margin point of view, we should expect to see, you know, similar, core business, to our existing Sherwin business. We will have some integrating costs. As you can imagine, a deal of that size, the integrating activities that are going to be required, the system, integrations, et cetera, we're going to have some costs, as we go through 2026. But, you know, from a margin point of view, yeah, until we anniversary that in, in the third quarter of of next year, you know, you, you can expect it to be, maybe, maybe a little, muted, the same degree that you saw in the fourth quarter. Thanks, Duffy. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Mike Harrison from Seaport Research Partners. Your line is live. Hi, good morning. You've talked in the past about periodic repaints of houses occurring every five to seven years. A lot of demand was pulled forward into the 2021 timeframe, so, you know, we should be getting into a period where we should start to see more repaint activity. In your view, Heidi, what is preventing that thesis from playing out? Is it the cost of labor and maybe availability of paint contractors? Is it the cost of the paint itself? You know, when you think about consumer sentiment and, you know, just propensity to repaint periodically, you know, what could conflict with that prevailing view of repainting every five to seven years? Yeah, and you're right, it is, we say, a kind of a five to six to seven year cycle, and we are coming off of that post-COVID. I do think there are some natural governors in play right now, just because we are in an inflationary environment. Consumer confidence is absolutely impacted. When you think about home improvement in general, though, what I love about our position is that we're one of the most affordable and most quick to update your home versus larger kitchen and bath projects. And so I do believe as we continue to monitor a lot of these indicators, we're going to stay very close to it, but we'd like to see more tick up happen faster. I do think it's going to still be a bit choppy throughout the year. I'll remind you, too, the DIY segment represents about 40% of the available gallons out there, and so when it starts to move, you're going to want to come along for the ride, but we just need it to start moving. I think Ben's point that he mentioned a minute ago is important too, Mike, around the existing home sale outlook. I mean, that range of some saying existing home sales could be down ... low single digits to up 14%, that gives you a really good view, I think, into the uncertainty that's out there in terms of demand. So, whatever way it goes, though, we expect to outperform, and we're very well positioned to do that based on the investments we've consistently made over the last two years. And thanks for the question. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Kevin McCarthy from Vertical Research Partners. Your line is live. Yes, thank you, and good morning. Heidi, in the prepared remarks, I, I think you commented with regard to the 7% price increase that you'd expect realization to be in the low single-digit % range. I, I'm not sure if that was a near-term comment or, or if that's where you would expect to be in the fullness of time, but maybe you can elaborate on, on what that trajectory does look like over the next few quarters. And what I'm really trying to get at is the nexus between this realization versus your historical realizations against the backdrop of, you know, your aggressive pursuit of volume. Will it be lower this time, or, or do you think ultimately it will be the same? We've said it's gonna be in the historic range, maybe at the low end of the historic range, but I would look at this again because of this unique competitive environment that we find ourselves in. When I look at the low single-digit guidance, I would think of that, Kevin, as a full-year guide, and I'll invite Ben to jump in on any other details. Yeah, Kevin, I think what's important to know here, you know, that the teams are engaged. We're getting after the effectiveness, you know, where we can get it. There might be some delayed realization as you have different accounts that go a little later than January, and so we're gonna continue to monitor this. We know how to do this well. There's a high degree of confidence in our Paint Stores Group teams to get the price where they can, and we're gonna manage it that way. Thank you, Kevin. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Matthew DeYoe from Bank of America. Your line is live. Yeah, good morning, everyone. To build a little bit on Pat's question, would you look at or participate in any asset sales on the backs of the kind of the peer merger going on? I mean, I know it's a bit of a broad question, considering there's a pretty diversified portfolio, but say, for example, powder coatings, right? Would new market entry be interesting to you or expansion in some of these other more core industrial segments? Well, Matt, we love to grow, and we love expansion. Having said that, you know, the way we look at our our growth strategy, obviously, where we start with an organic focus. When we consider inorganic activity, it's a very disciplined review of our portfolio, which you just said. And so when I think about the, you know, what's in play there and as stewards of your capital, you know, we're always going to look, but, there are a few of those businesses that they fell out of the air and into our laps, all day long, yes, we would love them. But, right now we're just focusing on growing organically and competing in the market. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Garik Shmois from Loop Capital. Your line is live. Oh, hi. Thank you. As you made the decision to bring back the 401(k) match, you cited delays in tariffs as one of the drivers that helped you decide to reinstitute it. I was wondering if there was anything else specifically that you're looking at that gave you confidence. And just on the flip side, you're talking to a number of choppy macro indicators and, you know, trends that don't seem to be flipping anytime soon. I was wondering if there's any incremental costs that you're looking to implement this year. Right. So, Garik, I'll, I'm gonna start, and then I'll hand this over to Ben. I think your point and your recognition and our recognition that the tariffs are going to have a delayed realization, so I'll have Ben comment on that here in a moment. But I do want to take a minute just to address this. I think we said this in the prepared remarks, but this decision was not made on a single quarter or any short-term optics. And we all know this period of elevated and prolonged uncertainty, we had one objective in mind, which was protecting the operating strength, the stability and the long-term health of our company by protecting jobs. And I'm really proud that we've been in a position to restore that. But here's the reality, and I share this with you just to bring you into how I'm thinking about this. When you have a differentiated strategy that you believe in, and it's clearly working, and you've got a world-class team that knows how to execute through all types of cycles, your number one focus is on execution. And so I think now more than ever, you've got customers that are dealing with so much uncertainty. They are looking for partners that can be stable, reliable, and predictable. And when you've got a winning strategy, you've got customers that need you, you're gonna invest in that execution capacity. So which means we're gonna continue to not only attract and hire, but it's in our best interest to retain this talent. So we've seen a lot of widespread layoffs out there in and out of our industry. And I said earlier, we chose a different path, and it was to maintain and preserve these jobs. And I think that making sure that we have that execution capacity, that is what has rewarded our shareholders very well over the last few decades. But let me hand it back to Ben to talk more about the 2026 implication. Yeah, I mean, just one comment there, and I'll remind you, back in July, when we gave our guidance, we were operating in an environment of high uncertainty. And Heidi talked about you know, us wanting to have and make sure we preserve that financial flexibility. And so that didn't materialize the way that, you know, we had planned out. And part of having that flexibility and pulling that 401(k) lever is, you know, if it since it didn't play out the way that we had thought throughout the year, it gave us that ability to reinstate that. And even though it was quicker than we had expected, it's great that we were able to do that. As we go into 2026, it doesn't mean that, you know, the pressures that we see have alleviated. There are still tariff pressures. It's part of our low single digit raw material guide that we're going to have to contend with this year, and that delayed realization is something that we're going to have to contend with this year. You've seen us on the cost out and pulling, you know, levers for, you know, some of the big needle movers. We have confidence that our teams are going to continue to do that. We see our cross business unit teams working really well together to unlock cost in areas that have been harder to get at in prior years. And so our confidence in them being able to do that also helps our decision to make this and get it reinstated, get this behind us, and we're going to find ways to continue to overcome the volume challenges. Thank you, Garik. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Chuck Cerankosky from Northcoast Research. Your line is live. Good morning, everyone. I want to take a look at the Paint Stores Group and see if there's any insights to be gleaned by how the non-coatings sales are going, especially with the professionals basket when they're in your stores. Chuck, we're going to need a little bit more, on the question, if you don't mind. When you say non-coatings, what specifically are you referring to? I'm thinking about the supplies, brushes, sprayers, things like that, that might indicate now where the pros' head is at and what you folks might be looking at to change in their baskets. That was helpful. Jim's gonna start off here, and then I'll jump in. Yeah, Chuck, I was just gonna say, you know, one of the things you may be thinking about is spray equipment sales, and I'd say those have been, you know, flattish, reflecting the environment that we're in. Especially those are, you know, areas we've talked about, new res being under pressure. That'd be an area where you might see some more of that activity. But, Heidi, did you have anything else you wanted to add? Just flat. I mean, it's flattish. Yeah. And, Chuck, the way we think about that, and we call it AP applied products, is just obviously can be more of a leading indicator. Spray as an equipment is a really good example, but I would just characterize it as flat, is what we're looking at. Thanks, Chuck. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Eric Bosshard from Cleveland Research. Your line is live. Good morning. On the DIY market, could you just frame a bit of what you're seeing in terms of, perhaps your performance, in terms of volume and what's going on with price mix in Q4 and the expectation in 2026? Yeah, Eric, volume continues to be very choppy. Obviously, this is similar to the comments I made earlier. It's. I wish it was a different environment. Having said that, you know, we've got a unique distribution because we service this DIY customer in two areas, one through our paint stores, and we love the margin accretion on that side of the business. That's more of a discerning DIY customer that's looking for a higher level of service. But our partnerships through, you know, a lot of our strategic retail partners are extremely important here. And in this environment, you know, we say, "Don't let a downturn go to waste." Making sure that we are aligned, thinking differently about, you know, what's on the shelf, how we can compete across the street. And so there's a lot of good momentum in terms of planning. We just need the catalyst to come to realization. On price mix, I'll hand it over to Ben. Yeah, Eric, I mean, you've seen in our stores, I mean, our DIY performance has been a little bit better in the quarter here. If I look at DIY in total, though, a lot of what you see there is maybe the premium gallon push. We talked about that on our third quarter call with some of our channel partners. We're seeing better premium gallons, and so that's obviously a component of the price mix bucket that you see there. And that's a win for our customers because that's, you know, putting them in a position where they can be more efficient for, you know, for the projects that they're doing in their homes. And so that's about what, you know, we're seeing there. Obviously, in our stores, again, if we're changing pricing, that's a segment where maybe we can be a little more effective, but that'd be my only comment there. Thanks, Eric. Thank you. Our next question is coming from Laurence Alexander from Jefferies. Your line is live. Good morning. Could you give an update on what your net price tailwind is expected to be going into 2026, and how that compares to how you think about trend pricing, absent a sharp cyclical improvement? Hey, Laurence. Yeah, I mean, we're going to annualize our pricing. We went out January 6th last year, and so by the time, you know, we did our pricing January 1st in stores this year, we've annualized that. There might have been a little bit of pricing that we captured later in the year, but our expectation is, hey, we've lapped last year's price increase. The timing, you know, coincides pretty well with the new price increase. And so, as we've talked about a couple of times here this morning, you know, we'll be managing high effectiveness in that pricing as best we can as we work through 2026. So maybe just a final comment as it relates to pricing, I think, and the discipline, just to put a bow on this. I think we are in a very unique position. There's a lot of inflection happening across the industry, and I'm very confident in our strategy, our leadership team, and confident in where we're taking this company. And I, I'm excited for what's ahead, and we just—we need the market to help us a little bit, and we're having a very different conversation. I would just add to tie that all up, Lawrence, again, if you look in the slide deck that we put out with some of the guidance, you know, we're talking for the full year in 2026, we've got low single digit positive price mix in all three segments, and that gives you a positive low single digit price mix on a consolidated basis for the full year. Thanks for the question. Thank you. That concludes our Q&A session. I will now hand the conference back to Jim Jaye for closing remarks. Please go ahead. Yeah, thank you, Matthew, and thank you, everybody, for joining our call. Thanks to all the employees of Sherwin-Williams for all their continued hard work. Clearly, you heard today we're continuing to operate in a very challenging demand environment, and we expect that to continue well into the year. But as Heidi mentioned, Ben mentioned, we believe the guidance we're giving today, this initial guidance, is realistic, given all the economic assumptions that we laid out in our slide deck. And, you know, quite frankly, should the market be better than we're seeing today, we'd expect to outperform that guidance. So regardless of the environment, you can count on us. Our strategy is clear, which is providing those differentiated solutions for our customers. I will close with a save-the-date request for everybody for our 2026 financial community presentation. It's gonna be in Cleveland this year on Thursday, September 24th, and it will include the opportunity for you to see our new global headquarters and our new global technology center. So we're excited for all of you to, to experience this, this amazing investment that we've made for our customers and our people. That date, again, is September 24th, and we'll have more details on that later in the year. As always, we'll be available for your follow-ups here, and thanks again for your interest in Sherwin. Have a great day. Thank you. Everyone, this concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.

Speaker 23: Good morning. Thank you for joining The Sherwin-Williams Company’s review of fourth quarter and full year 2025 results and our outlook for the first quarter and full year of 2026. With us on today’s call are Heidi Petz, Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Ben Meisenzahl, Chief Financial Officer, Paul Lang, Chief Accounting Officer, and Jim Jaye, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications. This conference call is being webcast simultaneously in listen-only mode by Access Newswire via the Internet at www.sherwin.com. An archive replay of this webcast will be available at www.sherwin.com beginning approximately two hours after this conference call concludes. This conference call will include certain forward-looking statements as defined under the U.S. Federal Securities laws with respect to sales, earnings, and other matters. Good morning. good morning Thank you for joining The Sherwin-Williams Company’s review of fourth quarter and full year 2025 results and our outlook for the first quarter and full year of 2026. thank you for joining the sherwin-williams company’s review of fourth quarter and full year 2025 results and our outlook for the first quarter and full year of 2026 With us on today’s call are Heidi Petz, Chair, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Ben Meisenzahl, Chief Financial Officer, Paul Lang, Chief Accounting Officer, and Jim Jaye, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications. with us on today’s call are heidi petz chair president and chief executive officer ben meisenzahl chief financial officer paul lang chief accounting officer and jim jaye senior vice president investor relations and communications This conference call is being webcast simultaneously in listen-only mode by Access Newswire via the Internet at www.sherwin.com. this conference call is being webcast simultaneously in listen-only mode by access newswire via the internet at www.sherwin.com An archive replay of this webcast will be available at www.sherwin.com beginning approximately two hours after this conference call concludes. an archive replay of this webcast will be available at www.sherwin.com beginning approximately two hours after this conference call concludes This conference call will include certain forward-looking statements as defined under the U.S. this conference call will include certain forward-looking statements as defined under the u.s Federal Securities laws with respect to sales, earnings, and other matters. federal securities laws with respect to sales earnings and other matters Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of the date on which such statement is made, and the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. A full declaration regarding forward-looking statements is provided in the company's earnings release transmitted earlier this morning. After the company's prepared remarks, we will open the session to questions. I will now turn the call over to Jim Jaye. Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of the date on which such statement is made, and the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. any forward-looking statement speaks only as of the date on which such statement is made and the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement whether as a result of new information future events or otherwise A full declaration regarding forward-looking statements is provided in the company's earnings release transmitted earlier this morning. a full declaration regarding forward-looking statements is provided in the company's earnings release transmitted earlier this morning After the company's prepared remarks, we will open the session to questions. after the company's prepared remarks we will open the session to questions I will now turn the call over to Jim Jaye. i will now turn the call over to jim jaye

Speaker 14: Thank you, and good morning to everyone. Sherwin-Williams ended the year with strong fourth quarter results, driven by solid core performance and inclusive of the first full quarter of the Suvinil acquisition. Consolidated sales in the fourth quarter increased by a mid-single-digit percentage, inclusive of a low single-digit contribution from Suvinil. Reported gross margin was flattish year-over-year, but expanded, excluding the dilutive impact of the Suvinil acquisition. SG&A, as a percent of sales, decreased year-over-year, including severance and other restructuring expenses and Suvinil, reflecting our disciplined, ongoing cost control measures. Adjusted diluted net income per share in the quarter increased by 6.7%. Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter grew 13.4% and expanded 100 basis points to 17.7% as a percent of sales. Free cash flow conversion in the quarter was 90.1%. Thank you, and good morning to everyone. thank you and good morning to everyone Sherwin-Williams ended the year with strong fourth quarter results, driven by solid core performance and inclusive of the first full quarter of the Suvinil acquisition. sherwin-williams ended the year with strong fourth quarter results driven by solid core performance and inclusive of the first full quarter of the suvinil acquisition Consolidated sales in the fourth quarter increased by a mid-single-digit percentage, inclusive of a low single-digit contribution from Suvinil. consolidated sales in the fourth quarter increased by a mid-single-digit percentage inclusive of a low single-digit contribution from suvinil Reported gross margin was flattish year-over-year, but expanded, excluding the dilutive impact of the Suvinil acquisition. reported gross margin was flattish year-over-year but expanded excluding the dilutive impact of the suvinil acquisition SG&A, as a percent of sales, decreased year-over-year, including severance and other restructuring expenses and Suvinil, reflecting our disciplined, ongoing cost control measures. sg&a as a percent of sales decreased year-over-year including severance and other restructuring expenses and suvinil reflecting our disciplined ongoing cost control measures Adjusted diluted net income per share in the quarter increased by 6.7%. adjusted diluted net income per share in the quarter increased by 6.7% Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter grew 13.4% and expanded 100 basis points to 17.7% as a percent of sales. adjusted ebitda in the quarter grew 13.4% and expanded 100 basis points to 17.7% as a percent of sales Free cash flow conversion in the quarter was 90.1%. free cash flow conversion in the quarter was 90.1% In terms of our segments in the fourth quarter, Paint Stores Group sales increased in the range we expected, led by high single-digit growth in Protective and Marine against a high single-digit comp. Residential Repaint remained solid and growth was just slightly below the mid-single-digit range and also against a high single-digit comp. Group sales included positive low single-digit price mix, partially offset by a low single-digit decrease in volume. Segment margin expanded 90 basis points to 20.8%. Consumer Brands Group sales exceeded our expectations. Sales from the Suvinil acquisition and positive low single-digit FX were partially offset by price mix and volume, both of which were down less than a percentage point. Sales in the underlying business, excluding Suvinil, were essentially flat, which was better than we expected and drove the top-line beat. In terms of our segments in the fourth quarter, Paint Stores Group sales increased in the range we expected, led by high single-digit growth in Protective and Marine against a high single-digit comp. in terms of our segments in the fourth quarter paint stores group sales increased in the range we expected led by high single-digit growth in protective and marine against a high single-digit comp Residential Repaint remained solid and growth was just slightly below the mid-single-digit range and also against a high single-digit comp. residential repaint remained solid and growth was just slightly below the mid-single-digit range and also against a high single-digit comp Group sales included positive low single-digit price mix, partially offset by a low single-digit decrease in volume. group sales included positive low single-digit price mix partially offset by a low single-digit decrease in volume Segment margin expanded 90 basis points to 20.8%. segment margin expanded 90 basis points to 20.8% Consumer Brands Group sales exceeded our expectations. consumer brands group sales exceeded our expectations Sales from the Suvinil acquisition and positive low single-digit FX were partially offset by price mix and volume, both of which were down less than a percentage point. sales from the suvinil acquisition and positive low single-digit fx were partially offset by price mix and volume both of which were down less than a percentage point Sales in the underlying business, excluding Suvinil, were essentially flat, which was better than we expected and drove the top-line beat. sales in the underlying business excluding suvinil were essentially flat which was better than we expected and drove the top-line beat Adjusted segment margin decreased, including a negative impact from Suvinil and related transaction closing costs and purchase accounting items. Adjusted segment margin increased, excluding these impacts. Within Performance Coatings Group, sales were at the high end of expectations, led by strength in Packaging and Auto Refinish. Adjusted segment margin improved 150 basis points to 19%, driven by new business wins, as well as good control of SG&A, which was down mid-single digits. We also continued our strong cost control efforts within the administrative segment, where SG&A was down a low single-digit percentage in the quarter, including one-time restructuring costs of approximately $2 million. Excluding these restructuring costs and the non-annualized new building operating costs, administrative SG&A was down by a low teens percentage, improving on third quarter results that were down low double digits, demonstrating our continued tight management of G&A costs. Adjusted segment margin decreased, including a negative impact from Suvinil and related transaction closing costs and purchase accounting items. adjusted segment margin decreased including a negative impact from suvinil and related transaction closing costs and purchase accounting items Adjusted segment margin increased, excluding these impacts. adjusted segment margin increased excluding these impacts Within Performance Coatings Group, sales were at the high end of expectations, led by strength in Packaging and Auto Refinish. within performance coatings group sales were at the high end of expectations led by strength in packaging and auto refinish Adjusted segment margin improved 150 basis points to 19%, driven by new business wins, as well as good control of SG&A, which was down mid-single digits. adjusted segment margin improved 150 basis points to 19% driven by new business wins as well as good control of sg&a which was down mid-single digits We also continued our strong cost control efforts within the administrative segment, where SG&A was down a low single-digit percentage in the quarter, including one-time restructuring costs of approximately $2 million. we also continued our strong cost control efforts within the administrative segment where sg&a was down a low single-digit percentage in the quarter including one-time restructuring costs of approximately $2 million Excluding these restructuring costs and the non-annualized new building operating costs, administrative SG&A was down by a low teens percentage, improving on third quarter results that were down low double digits, demonstrating our continued tight management of G&A costs. excluding these restructuring costs and the non-annualized new building operating costs administrative sg&a was down by a low teens percentage improving on third quarter results that were down low double digits demonstrating our continued tight management of g&a costs The slide deck accompanying our press release this morning provides more detail on fourth quarter segment results. Let me now turn it over to Heidi, who will provide a few full year highlights before moving on to our 2026 outlook and your questions. The slide deck accompanying our press release this morning provides more detail on fourth quarter segment results. the slide deck accompanying our press release this morning provides more detail on fourth quarter segment results Let me now turn it over to Heidi, who will provide a few full year highlights before moving on to our 2026 outlook and your questions. let me now turn it over to heidi who will provide a few full year highlights before moving on to our 2026 outlook and your questions

Speaker 12: Thank you, Jim, and good morning. I want to start by thanking our 65,000 global employees for their dedication and determination to deliver a solid year during one of the more challenging operating environments our company has seen. Sherwin-Williams celebrates 160 years in 2026, and it's because of our employees and our culture that we're able to deliver sustainable results through all types of cycles. Our team continues to execute our playbook while finding new ways to help our customers become more productive and more profitable. I'm proud of what our team accomplished in 2025. At this time last year, we talked about the potential for a softer for longer demand environment, and that is exactly what we saw play out as there was no meaningful improvement in demand across our end markets. Thank you, Jim, and good morning. thank you jim and good morning I want to start by thanking our 65,000 global employees for their dedication and determination to deliver a solid year during one of the more challenging operating environments our company has seen. i want to start by thanking our 65,000 global employees for their dedication and determination to deliver a solid year during one of the more challenging operating environments our company has seen Sherwin-Williams celebrates 160 years in 2026, and it's because of our employees and our culture that we're able to deliver sustainable results through all types of cycles. sherwin-williams celebrates 160 years in 2026 and it's because of our employees and our culture that we're able to deliver sustainable results through all types of cycles Our team continues to execute our playbook while finding new ways to help our customers become more productive and more profitable. our team continues to execute our playbook while finding new ways to help our customers become more productive and more profitable I'm proud of what our team accomplished in 2025. i'm proud of what our team accomplished in 2025 At this time last year, we talked about the potential for a softer for longer demand environment, and that is exactly what we saw play out as there was no meaningful improvement in demand across our end markets. at this time last year we talked about the potential for a softer for longer demand environment and that is exactly what we saw play out as there was no meaningful improvement in demand across our end markets Our team refused to wait for the market and instead focused on creating opportunities and controlling what we could control. We stayed true to our strategy, made targeted investments, focused on share gains, and executed on our enterprise priorities. We continued to deliver innovative solutions for our customers, and in a disruptive, competitive environment, Sherwin-Williams stood out by being a consistent, reliable, and dependable partner. Our success by design approach resulted in our team delivering record full-year consolidated sales and record adjusted diluted earnings per share. Gross profit dollars and gross margin expanded. Adjusted EBITDA dollars and adjusted EBITDA margin also expanded. It was also another very strong year for cash generation, with net operating cash growing 9.4% to $3.5 billion, or 14.6% of sales. Our team refused to wait for the market and instead focused on creating opportunities and controlling what we could control. our team refused to wait for the market and instead focused on creating opportunities and controlling what we could control We stayed true to our strategy, made targeted investments, focused on share gains, and executed on our enterprise priorities. we stayed true to our strategy made targeted investments focused on share gains and executed on our enterprise priorities We continued to deliver innovative solutions for our customers, and in a disruptive, competitive environment, Sherwin-Williams stood out by being a consistent, reliable, and dependable partner. we continued to deliver innovative solutions for our customers and in a disruptive competitive environment sherwin-williams stood out by being a consistent reliable and dependable partner Our success by design approach resulted in our team delivering record full-year consolidated sales and record adjusted diluted earnings per share. our success by design approach resulted in our team delivering record full-year consolidated sales and record adjusted diluted earnings per share Gross profit dollars and gross margin expanded. gross profit dollars and gross margin expanded Adjusted EBITDA dollars and adjusted EBITDA margin also expanded. adjusted ebitda dollars and adjusted ebitda margin also expanded It was also another very strong year for cash generation, with net operating cash growing 9.4% to $3.5 billion, or 14.6% of sales. it was also another very strong year for cash generation with net operating cash growing 9.4% to $3.5 billion or 14.6% of sales This percent of sales is right in the middle of the most recent target range that we've previously announced. Free cash flow was $2.7 billion, and free cash flow conversion for the year was 59%. In terms of capital allocation, our policy remains consistent. We returned $2.5 billion to shareholders through share repurchases in our dividend, which we raised for the 47th consecutive year. We completed the acquisition of Suvinil, and we continued to make strategic CapEx investments, including our new global headquarters and Global Technology Center, which opened at the end of the year. We've been talking about these buildings for years, and we are thrilled that we are here. The move-in is going extremely well, and I'm confident that this will continue to strengthen our culture of collaboration, innovation, and winning together. This percent of sales is right in the middle of the most recent target range that we've previously announced. this percent of sales is right in the middle of the most recent target range that we've previously announced Free cash flow was $2.7 billion, and free cash flow conversion for the year was 59%. free cash flow was $2.7 billion and free cash flow conversion for the year was 59% In terms of capital allocation, our policy remains consistent. in terms of capital allocation our policy remains consistent We returned $2.5 billion to shareholders through share repurchases in our dividend, which we raised for the 47th consecutive year. we returned $2.5 billion to shareholders through share repurchases in our dividend which we raised for the 47th consecutive year We completed the acquisition of Suvinil, and we continued to make strategic CapEx investments, including our new global headquarters and Global Technology Center, which opened at the end of the year. we completed the acquisition of suvinil and we continued to make strategic capex investments including our new global headquarters and global technology center which opened at the end of the year We've been talking about these buildings for years, and we are thrilled that we are here. we've been talking about these buildings for years and we are thrilled that we are here The move-in is going extremely well, and I'm confident that this will continue to strengthen our culture of collaboration, innovation, and winning together. the move-in is going extremely well and i'm confident that this will continue to strengthen our culture of collaboration innovation and winning together All in, we ended 2025 with a strong balance sheet and a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 2.3x. Looking at our reportable segments on a full year basis, Paint Stores grew sales by a low single-digit %. Protective and Marine increased by high single digits. Residential Repaint increased by mid single digits, and for the third year in a row, meaningfully outperformed the market, where existing home sales remained soft. Low single-digit growth in Commercial reflects share gains and above-market performance, as multifamily completions were down significantly during the year. Share gains are also evident in Property Maintenance and New Residential, both of which were flattish in a down market characterized by muted CapEx spending, high rates, and affordability challenges. Segment margin increased, reflecting operating leverage and solid returns on our investments. All in, we ended 2025 with a strong balance sheet and a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 2.3x. all in we ended 2025 with a strong balance sheet and a net debt to adjusted ebitda ratio of 2.3x Looking at our reportable segments on a full year basis, Paint Stores grew sales by a low single-digit %. looking at our reportable segments on a full year basis paint stores grew sales by a low single-digit % Protective and Marine increased by high single digits. protective and marine increased by high single digits Residential Repaint increased by mid single digits, and for the third year in a row, meaningfully outperformed the market, where existing home sales remained soft. residential repaint increased by mid single digits and for the third year in a row meaningfully outperformed the market where existing home sales remained soft Low single-digit growth in Commercial reflects share gains and above-market performance, as multifamily completions were down significantly during the year. low single-digit growth in commercial reflects share gains and above-market performance as multifamily completions were down significantly during the year Share gains are also evident in Property Maintenance and New Residential, both of which were flattish in a down market characterized by muted CapEx spending, high rates, and affordability challenges. share gains are also evident in property maintenance and new residential both of which were flattish in a down market characterized by muted capex spending high rates and affordability challenges Segment margin increased, reflecting operating leverage and solid returns on our investments. segment margin increased reflecting operating leverage and solid returns on our investments We also added 80 net new stores and 87 net new sales territories. Consumer Brands' full-year sales grew by a low single-digit %, driven by the Suvinil acquisition, as underlying sales decreased by low single digits, resulting from soft DIY demand in North America and unfavorable FX. Adjusted segment margin decreased, including a negative impact from Suvinil, as we previously described, as well as lower production in the segment's manufacturing operations to match softer demand, resulting in lower fixed cost absorption. Performance Coatings' full-year sales varied by division and geography and were flat overall, which outpaced a very challenging industrial demand backdrop. Acquisitions added a low single-digit % in the year, and FX was a slight tailwind, but these were offset by unfavorable price mix. We also added 80 net new stores and 87 net new sales territories. we also added 80 net new stores and 87 net new sales territories Consumer Brands' full-year sales grew by a low single-digit %, driven by the Suvinil acquisition, as underlying sales decreased by low single digits, resulting from soft DIY demand in North America and unfavorable FX. consumer brands' full-year sales grew by a low single-digit % driven by the suvinil acquisition as underlying sales decreased by low single digits resulting from soft diy demand in north america and unfavorable fx Adjusted segment margin decreased, including a negative impact from Suvinil, as we previously described, as well as lower production in the segment's manufacturing operations to match softer demand, resulting in lower fixed cost absorption. adjusted segment margin decreased including a negative impact from suvinil as we previously described as well as lower production in the segment's manufacturing operations to match softer demand resulting in lower fixed cost absorption Performance Coatings' full-year sales varied by division and geography and were flat overall, which outpaced a very challenging industrial demand backdrop. performance coatings' full-year sales varied by division and geography and were flat overall which outpaced a very challenging industrial demand backdrop Acquisitions added a low single-digit % in the year, and FX was a slight tailwind, but these were offset by unfavorable price mix. acquisitions added a low single-digit % in the year and fx was a slight tailwind but these were offset by unfavorable price mix Packaging grew at the high end of high single digits as we continued to win new business globally, including those complying with new non-BPA coating requirements. Auto Refinish was flat for the year, with share gains becoming more evident in the second half, where sales were up mid-single digits. Coil sales decreased by low single digits as meaningful new account wins were not enough to offset steel tariff impacts. Industrial Wood and General Industrial each decreased by low single digits, driven by soft housing and industrial markets, respectively. Adjusted segment margin remained in our high teens target range, but was impacted by unfavorable geographic mix as Europe grew by mid-single digits while other regions were down low single digits. As we close out 2025, I'm also pleased to share that we are reinstating our 401(k) matching program for eligible US employees, effective February 1st. Packaging grew at the high end of high single digits as we continued to win new business globally, including those complying with new non-BPA coating requirements. packaging grew at the high end of high single digits as we continued to win new business globally including those complying with new non-bpa coating requirements Auto Refinish was flat for the year, with share gains becoming more evident in the second half, where sales were up mid-single digits. auto refinish was flat for the year with share gains becoming more evident in the second half where sales were up mid-single digits Coil sales decreased by low single digits as meaningful new account wins were not enough to offset steel tariff impacts. coil sales decreased by low single digits as meaningful new account wins were not enough to offset steel tariff impacts Industrial Wood and General Industrial each decreased by low single digits, driven by soft housing and industrial markets, respectively. industrial wood and general industrial each decreased by low single digits driven by soft housing and industrial markets respectively Adjusted segment margin remained in our high teens target range, but was impacted by unfavorable geographic mix as Europe grew by mid-single digits while other regions were down low single digits. adjusted segment margin remained in our high teens target range but was impacted by unfavorable geographic mix as europe grew by mid-single digits while other regions were down low single digits As we close out 2025, I'm also pleased to share that we are reinstating our 401(k) matching program for eligible US employees, effective February 1st. as we close out 2025 i'm also pleased to share that we are reinstating our 401(k) matching program for eligible us employees effective february 1st We'll also be restoring the matching contributions that have been paused since October 1st by the end of our first quarter. As I described last quarter, the decision to pause the company match was made after we had implemented multiple cost savings initiatives and significant restructuring actions, driven by multiyear demand and macroeconomic uncertainty. Given what we anticipated back in July, and with the prospect of additional risks materializing, we faced a difficult decision, either pursue further workforce reductions or temporarily pause the 401(k) company match. While many companies chose widespread layoffs, we chose a different path. We chose to protect jobs, retain talent, and invest in the long-term health of the organization by keeping our teams intact. We also committed to restoring the match as soon as performance allowed, just as we have done in the past. Our teams responded exactly as strong teams do. We'll also be restoring the matching contributions that have been paused since October 1st by the end of our first quarter. we'll also be restoring the matching contributions that have been paused since october 1st by the end of our first quarter As I described last quarter, the decision to pause the company match was made after we had implemented multiple cost savings initiatives and significant restructuring actions, driven by multiyear demand and macroeconomic uncertainty. as i described last quarter the decision to pause the company match was made after we had implemented multiple cost savings initiatives and significant restructuring actions driven by multiyear demand and macroeconomic uncertainty Given what we anticipated back in July, and with the prospect of additional risks materializing, we faced a difficult decision, either pursue further workforce reductions or temporarily pause the 401(k) company match. given what we anticipated back in july and with the prospect of additional risks materializing we faced a difficult decision either pursue further workforce reductions or temporarily pause the 401(k) company match While many companies chose widespread layoffs, we chose a different path. while many companies chose widespread layoffs we chose a different path We chose to protect jobs, retain talent, and invest in the long-term health of the organization by keeping our teams intact. we chose to protect jobs retain talent and invest in the long-term health of the organization by keeping our teams intact We also committed to restoring the match as soon as performance allowed, just as we have done in the past. we also committed to restoring the match as soon as performance allowed just as we have done in the past Our teams responded exactly as strong teams do. our teams responded exactly as strong teams do We elevated our performance and focused on controlling what we could control, including winning new business, growing share of wallet, pricing discipline, and accelerating further cost reductions. We demonstrated what truly differentiates Sherwin-Williams. At the same time, some of the risks that we saw in July did not materialize or were less severe than expected, including the delayed realization of some tariff impacts. The combination of all these factors is enabling us to both resume and retroactively restore the match sooner than originally anticipated. Now, moving on to our 2026 guidance. The demand environment feels much like it did a year ago. The softer for longer dynamic we described again back in October remains intact. While some conditions are gradually becoming more stable, many of the indicators we track, along with cautious consumer sentiment, provide little support for any broad-based or accelerated recovery at this time. We elevated our performance and focused on controlling what we could control, including winning new business, growing share of wallet, pricing discipline, and accelerating further cost reductions. we elevated our performance and focused on controlling what we could control including winning new business growing share of wallet pricing discipline and accelerating further cost reductions We demonstrated what truly differentiates Sherwin-Williams. we demonstrated what truly differentiates sherwin-williams At the same time, some of the risks that we saw in July did not materialize or were less severe than expected, including the delayed realization of some tariff impacts. at the same time some of the risks that we saw in july did not materialize or were less severe than expected including the delayed realization of some tariff impacts The combination of all these factors is enabling us to both resume and retroactively restore the match sooner than originally anticipated. the combination of all these factors is enabling us to both resume and retroactively restore the match sooner than originally anticipated Now, moving on to our 2026 guidance. now moving on to our 2026 guidance The demand environment feels much like it did a year ago. the demand environment feels much like it did a year ago The softer for longer dynamic we described again back in October remains intact. the softer for longer dynamic we described again back in october remains intact While some conditions are gradually becoming more stable, many of the indicators we track, along with cautious consumer sentiment, provide little support for any broad-based or accelerated recovery at this time. while some conditions are gradually becoming more stable many of the indicators we track along with cautious consumer sentiment provide little support for any broad-based or accelerated recovery at this time This environment is likely to persist well into 2026. The slide deck issued with our press release lays out our key economic assumptions for 2026. I'd also like to provide you with some additional color that informs our outlook. On the architectural side of the business, Residential Repaint remains our single biggest growth opportunity, and we have and will continue to make investments to win here. Demand remains difficult to predict, with industry forecasts for existing home sales growth varying widely from slightly down to up double digits. The mortgage rate lock-in effect remains real. Harvard's LIRA Index is projecting very modest growth, and select retailers have forecasted flattish home improvement growth as a base case. Additionally, consumer sentiment remains muted. These same dynamics also signal another potentially challenging year for DIY. This environment is likely to persist well into 2026. this environment is likely to persist well into 2026 The slide deck issued with our press release lays out our key economic assumptions for 2026. the slide deck issued with our press release lays out our key economic assumptions for 2026 I'd also like to provide you with some additional color that informs our outlook. i'd also like to provide you with some additional color that informs our outlook On the architectural side of the business, Residential Repaint remains our single biggest growth opportunity, and we have and will continue to make investments to win here. on the architectural side of the business residential repaint remains our single biggest growth opportunity and we have and will continue to make investments to win here Demand remains difficult to predict, with industry forecasts for existing home sales growth varying widely from slightly down to up double digits. demand remains difficult to predict with industry forecasts for existing home sales growth varying widely from slightly down to up double digits The mortgage rate lock-in effect remains real. the mortgage rate lock-in effect remains real Harvard's LIRA Index is projecting very modest growth, and select retailers have forecasted flattish home improvement growth as a base case. harvard's lira index is projecting very modest growth and select retailers have forecasted flattish home improvement growth as a base case Additionally, consumer sentiment remains muted. additionally consumer sentiment remains muted These same dynamics also signal another potentially challenging year for DIY. these same dynamics also signal another potentially challenging year for diy We expect the new residential market to be down at least in the mid-single digit range this year, given negative single-family starts over the back half of 2025, and many forecasters' expectations for further softening in 2026. National Association of Home Builders sentiment levels were notably negative exiting 2025, and mortgage rates remain in the 6+ range. We welcome meaningful economic and policy proposals to address affordability and increase supply, though these will take time to finalize, implement, and take effect. We expect to outperform the market as we continue strengthening our home builder customer relationships. In the commercial segment, the Architectural Billings Index has continued its long run of negative readings. We do see a bright spot in multifamily starts, which were positive for most of the second half of 2025. We expect the new residential market to be down at least in the mid-single digit range this year, given negative single-family starts over the back half of 2025, and many forecasters' expectations for further softening in 2026. we expect the new residential market to be down at least in the mid-single digit range this year given negative single-family starts over the back half of 2025 and many forecasters' expectations for further softening in 2026 National Association of Home Builders sentiment levels were notably negative exiting 2025, and mortgage rates remain in the 6+ range. national association of home builders sentiment levels were notably negative exiting 2025 and mortgage rates remain in the 6+ range We welcome meaningful economic and policy proposals to address affordability and increase supply, though these will take time to finalize, implement, and take effect. we welcome meaningful economic and policy proposals to address affordability and increase supply though these will take time to finalize implement and take effect We expect to outperform the market as we continue strengthening our home builder customer relationships. we expect to outperform the market as we continue strengthening our home builder customer relationships In the commercial segment, the Architectural Billings Index has continued its long run of negative readings. in the commercial segment the architectural billings index has continued its long run of negative readings We do see a bright spot in multifamily starts, which were positive for most of the second half of 2025. we do see a bright spot in multifamily starts which were positive for most of the second half of 2025 However, these starts won't turn to completions and painting until late this year and into 2027. We are pleased with the share gains we are making here, as demonstrated by our above-market growth over the second half of 2025, and which we expect will continue throughout 2026. Property Maintenance CapEx spending still appears to be idling in neutral, though we are well positioned to capture pent-up demand when rates moderate. We expect flattish sales as we continue to grow our account base to help offset core softness. In Protective and Marine, the project pipeline remains solid, though the timing of starts and completions remain variable. We expect this business, along with Residential Repaint, to be the best sales performers in Paint Stores Group this year. However, these starts won't turn to completions and painting until late this year and into 2027. however these starts won't turn to completions and painting until late this year and into 2027 We are pleased with the share gains we are making here, as demonstrated by our above-market growth over the second half of 2025, and which we expect will continue throughout 2026. we are pleased with the share gains we are making here as demonstrated by our above-market growth over the second half of 2025 and which we expect will continue throughout 2026 Property Maintenance CapEx spending still appears to be idling in neutral, though we are well positioned to capture pent-up demand when rates moderate. property maintenance capex spending still appears to be idling in neutral though we are well positioned to capture pent-up demand when rates moderate We expect flattish sales as we continue to grow our account base to help offset core softness. we expect flattish sales as we continue to grow our account base to help offset core softness In Protective and Marine, the project pipeline remains solid, though the timing of starts and completions remain variable. in protective and marine the project pipeline remains solid though the timing of starts and completions remain variable We expect this business, along with Residential Repaint, to be the best sales performers in Paint Stores Group this year. we expect this business along with residential repaint to be the best sales performers in paint stores group this year On the industrial side, the U.S. manufacturing PMI ended at its lowest point in the year in December, after ten months of contraction. Brazil and the Eurozone PMIs are also contracting. Optimism is easing in China, and the PMI there remains below its historical average. We see a 2026 backdrop where our core business remains flat at best, but strong new account wins from last year and this year, along with positive price mix, to drive low single-digit sales growth in Performance Coatings Group. We expect modest growth in Auto Refinish, driven by share gains and price mix, with the industry remaining flattish to down, given pressure on consumers and related softness of insurance claims. In Coil, we expect flattish sales as the market remains under pressure related to steel tariffs. In Packaging, share gains and our industry-leading non-BPA coatings should drive flattish sales against a tough double-digit comparison. On the industrial side, the U.S. manufacturing PMI ended at its lowest point in the year in December, after ten months of contraction. on the industrial side the u.s manufacturing pmi ended at its lowest point in the year in december after ten months of contraction Brazil and the Eurozone PMIs are also contracting. brazil and the eurozone pmis are also contracting Optimism is easing in China, and the PMI there remains below its historical average. optimism is easing in china and the pmi there remains below its historical average We see a 2026 backdrop where our core business remains flat at best, but strong new account wins from last year and this year, along with positive price mix, to drive low single-digit sales growth in Performance Coatings Group. we see a 2026 backdrop where our core business remains flat at best but strong new account wins from last year and this year along with positive price mix to drive low single-digit sales growth in performance coatings group We expect modest growth in Auto Refinish, driven by share gains and price mix, with the industry remaining flattish to down, given pressure on consumers and related softness of insurance claims. we expect modest growth in auto refinish driven by share gains and price mix with the industry remaining flattish to down given pressure on consumers and related softness of insurance claims In Coil, we expect flattish sales as the market remains under pressure related to steel tariffs. in coil we expect flattish sales as the market remains under pressure related to steel tariffs In Packaging, share gains and our industry-leading non-BPA coatings should drive flattish sales against a tough double-digit comparison. in packaging share gains and our industry-leading non-bpa coatings should drive flattish sales against a tough double-digit comparison Our Industrial Wood and General Industrial divisions had the strongest new account growth in the group last year. We expect these wins to drive low single-digit growth in both of these divisions, even as core demand remains very weak. In summary, for the third year in a row, the market is not going to give us much help, and for the third year in a row, we expect to outperform the market and grow sales and earnings per share. We'll continue to remain extremely aggressive, with a focus on helping existing customers grow, as well as winning new business and converting share gains. I want to be very transparent here. We're providing guidance that we believe is very realistic given this backdrop. Our Industrial Wood and General Industrial divisions had the strongest new account growth in the group last year. our industrial wood and general industrial divisions had the strongest new account growth in the group last year We expect these wins to drive low single-digit growth in both of these divisions, even as core demand remains very weak. we expect these wins to drive low single-digit growth in both of these divisions even as core demand remains very weak In summary, for the third year in a row, the market is not going to give us much help, and for the third year in a row, we expect to outperform the market and grow sales and earnings per share. in summary for the third year in a row the market is not going to give us much help and for the third year in a row we expect to outperform the market and grow sales and earnings per share We'll continue to remain extremely aggressive, with a focus on helping existing customers grow, as well as winning new business and converting share gains. we'll continue to remain extremely aggressive with a focus on helping existing customers grow as well as winning new business and converting share gains I want to be very transparent here. i want to be very transparent here We're providing guidance that we believe is very realistic given this backdrop. we're providing guidance that we believe is very realistic given this backdrop We are also confident that if the market is better than we're currently seeing, we would expect to outperform the guidance that we are providing to start the year. The slide deck issued with this morning's press release includes our expectations for consolidated and segment sales for the first quarter of 2026. The deck also includes our initial expectations for the full year, where consolidated sales are expected to be up a low- to mid-single-digit %, and diluted net income per share is expected to be in the range of $10.70-$11.10 per share. We are also confident that if the market is better than we're currently seeing, we would expect to outperform the guidance that we are providing to start the year. we are also confident that if the market is better than we're currently seeing we would expect to outperform the guidance that we are providing to start the year The slide deck issued with this morning's press release includes our expectations for consolidated and segment sales for the first quarter of 2026. the slide deck issued with this morning's press release includes our expectations for consolidated and segment sales for the first quarter of 2026 The deck also includes our initial expectations for the full year, where consolidated sales are expected to be up a low- to mid-single-digit %, and diluted net income per share is expected to be in the range of $10.70-$11.10 per share. the deck also includes our initial expectations for the full year where consolidated sales are expected to be up a low- to mid-single-digit % and diluted net income per share is expected to be in the range of $10.70-$11.10 per share Excluding acquisition-related amortization expense of approximately $0.80 per share, adjusted diluted net income per share is expected in the range of $11.50-$11.90, an increase of 2.4% at the midpoint compared to 2025's adjusted diluted net income per share of $11.43.... I'll note that at the $11.70 midpoint, earnings growth will outpace the midpoint of our core sales growth, excluding the impact of Suvinil sales. Our slide deck contains several additional data points that provide important context that I'd also like to briefly address. Any comparisons described are year-over-year. From a sales perspective, I'll remind you that the Paint Stores Group implemented a 7% price increase effective January 1st. Realization should be in the low single-digit range, given market dynamics and segment mix. Excluding acquisition-related amortization expense of approximately $0.80 per share, adjusted diluted net income per share is expected in the range of $11.50-$11.90, an increase of 2.4% at the midpoint compared to 2025's adjusted diluted net income per share of $11.43.... excluding acquisition-related amortization expense of approximately $0.80 per share adjusted diluted net income per share is expected in the range of $11.50-$11.90 an increase of 2.4% at the midpoint compared to 2025's adjusted diluted net income per share of $11.43 I'll note that at the $11.70 midpoint, earnings growth will outpace the midpoint of our core sales growth, excluding the impact of Suvinil sales. i'll note that at the $11.70 midpoint earnings growth will outpace the midpoint of our core sales growth excluding the impact of suvinil sales Our slide deck contains several additional data points that provide important context that I'd also like to briefly address. our slide deck contains several additional data points that provide important context that i'd also like to briefly address Any comparisons described are year-over-year. any comparisons described are year-over-year From a sales perspective, I'll remind you that the Paint Stores Group implemented a 7% price increase effective January 1st. from a sales perspective i'll remind you that the paint stores group implemented a 7% price increase effective january 1st Realization should be in the low single-digit range, given market dynamics and segment mix. realization should be in the low single-digit range given market dynamics and segment mix We are also implementing targeted price increases in specific areas with our other two reportable segments. We expect the market basket of raw materials to be up a low single-digit % in 2026, driven by tariffs, along with select commodities also inflating. We expect to overcome these raw material headwinds and deliver full-year gross margin expansion, given both incremental 2026 pricing and accelerated simplification efforts across our supply chain. We expect GAAP SG&A dollars to grow by a low single-digit % in 2026, inclusive of a low single-digit contribution from Suvinil. As we pointed out last quarter, interest expense will be up this year. This increase includes approximately $40 million related to the lease payments for our new global headquarters and approximately $35 million of interest related to the $1.1 billion, one year delayed draw term loan that we executed in September. We are also implementing targeted price increases in specific areas with our other two reportable segments. we are also implementing targeted price increases in specific areas with our other two reportable segments We expect the market basket of raw materials to be up a low single-digit % in 2026, driven by tariffs, along with select commodities also inflating. we expect the market basket of raw materials to be up a low single-digit % in 2026 driven by tariffs along with select commodities also inflating We expect to overcome these raw material headwinds and deliver full-year gross margin expansion, given both incremental 2026 pricing and accelerated simplification efforts across our supply chain. we expect to overcome these raw material headwinds and deliver full-year gross margin expansion given both incremental 2026 pricing and accelerated simplification efforts across our supply chain We expect GAAP SG&A dollars to grow by a low single-digit % in 2026, inclusive of a low single-digit contribution from Suvinil. we expect gaap sg&a dollars to grow by a low single-digit % in 2026 inclusive of a low single-digit contribution from suvinil As we pointed out last quarter, interest expense will be up this year. as we pointed out last quarter interest expense will be up this year This increase includes approximately $40 million related to the lease payments for our new global headquarters and approximately $35 million of interest related to the $1.1 billion, one year delayed draw term loan that we executed in September. this increase includes approximately $40 million related to the lease payments for our new global headquarters and approximately $35 million of interest related to the $1.1 billion one year delayed draw term loan that we executed in september It also includes approximately $15 million in increased interest expense related to refinancing at higher rates. We expect to end the year within our current long-term target debt to EBITDA leverage ratio of 2-2.5 times. We expect to open 80-100 net new stores in the U.S. and Canada in 2026. We'll also continue adding sales reps and territories, accelerating innovation and expanding our digital capabilities. Next month, at our Board of Directors meeting, we will recommend an annual dividend increase of 1.3% to $3.20 per share, up from $3.16 last year. If approved, this will mark the 48th consecutive year we've increased our dividend. We expect to continue making opportunistic share repurchases. We'll also continue to evaluate acquisitions that fit and accelerate our strategy. It also includes approximately $15 million in increased interest expense related to refinancing at higher rates. it also includes approximately $15 million in increased interest expense related to refinancing at higher rates We expect to end the year within our current long-term target debt to EBITDA leverage ratio of 2-2.5 times. we expect to end the year within our current long-term target debt to ebitda leverage ratio of 2-2.5 times We expect to open 80-100 net new stores in the U.S. and Canada in 2026. we expect to open 80-100 net new stores in the u.s and canada in 2026 We'll also continue adding sales reps and territories, accelerating innovation and expanding our digital capabilities. we'll also continue adding sales reps and territories accelerating innovation and expanding our digital capabilities Next month, at our Board of Directors meeting, we will recommend an annual dividend increase of 1.3% to $3.20 per share, up from $3.16 last year. next month at our board of directors meeting we will recommend an annual dividend increase of 1.3% to $3.20 per share up from $3.16 last year If approved, this will mark the 48th consecutive year we've increased our dividend. if approved this will mark the 48th consecutive year we've increased our dividend We expect to continue making opportunistic share repurchases. we expect to continue making opportunistic share repurchases We'll also continue to evaluate acquisitions that fit and accelerate our strategy. we'll also continue to evaluate acquisitions that fit and accelerate our strategy In addition, our slide deck provides guidance on our expectations for currency exchange, effective tax rate, CapEx, depreciation, and amortization. Finally, I'll remind you that as our first quarter is a seasonally smaller one, we do not plan to make any updates to full year guidance up or down until our second quarter is completed, at which point we will have a better view of how the paint and coatings season is unfolding. Sherwin-Williams is extremely well-positioned as we enter 2026. Again, while we expect little, if any, help in terms of end market demand, our teams refuse to be discouraged by these near-term trends. We know stronger demand will return at some point, driven by powerful demographics and enduring market fundamentals. But we're not waiting for that moment. We're focused on winning today and securing our long-term future. In addition, our slide deck provides guidance on our expectations for currency exchange, effective tax rate, CapEx, depreciation, and amortization. in addition our slide deck provides guidance on our expectations for currency exchange effective tax rate capex depreciation and amortization Finally, I'll remind you that as our first quarter is a seasonally smaller one, we do not plan to make any updates to full year guidance up or down until our second quarter is completed, at which point we will have a better view of how the paint and coatings season is unfolding. finally i'll remind you that as our first quarter is a seasonally smaller one we do not plan to make any updates to full year guidance up or down until our second quarter is completed at which point we will have a better view of how the paint and coatings season is unfolding Sherwin-Williams is extremely well-positioned as we enter 2026. sherwin-williams is extremely well-positioned as we enter 2026 Again, while we expect little, if any, help in terms of end market demand, our teams refuse to be discouraged by these near-term trends. again while we expect little if any help in terms of end market demand our teams refuse to be discouraged by these near-term trends We know stronger demand will return at some point, driven by powerful demographics and enduring market fundamentals. we know stronger demand will return at some point driven by powerful demographics and enduring market fundamentals But we're not waiting for that moment. but we're not waiting for that moment We're focused on winning today and securing our long-term future. we're focused on winning today and securing our long-term future We know the playbook, stay true to our proven customer-first strategy, control what we can control, and turn volatility into opportunity. That means relentlessly pursuing new accounts and share of wallet, innovating in and out of the can, investing where returns are clear, maintaining price-cost discipline, advancing our enterprise priorities, and driving accountability to ensure flawless execution. This is how we grow and create value, regardless of market cycles. We're proud of what we've accomplished, but we're even more energized by the opportunities ahead. Across every business, we see room to grow, innovate, and lead. Our focus remains sharp, grow sales, drive returns on sales and assets, and generate cash. We'll continue to deliver unique solutions for customers and outperform the market. This is a great time to continue demonstrating what makes Sherwin-Williams so unique. We win when our customers win, and that is exactly what we plan to do. We know the playbook, stay true to our proven customer-first strategy, control what we can control, and turn volatility into opportunity. we know the playbook stay true to our proven customer-first strategy control what we can control and turn volatility into opportunity That means relentlessly pursuing new accounts and share of wallet, innovating in and out of the can, investing where returns are clear, maintaining price-cost discipline, advancing our enterprise priorities, and driving accountability to ensure flawless execution. that means relentlessly pursuing new accounts and share of wallet innovating in and out of the can investing where returns are clear maintaining price-cost discipline advancing our enterprise priorities and driving accountability to ensure flawless execution This is how we grow and create value, regardless of market cycles. this is how we grow and create value regardless of market cycles We're proud of what we've accomplished, but we're even more energized by the opportunities ahead. we're proud of what we've accomplished but we're even more energized by the opportunities ahead Across every business, we see room to grow, innovate, and lead. across every business we see room to grow innovate and lead Our focus remains sharp, grow sales, drive returns on sales and assets, and generate cash. our focus remains sharp grow sales drive returns on sales and assets and generate cash We'll continue to deliver unique solutions for customers and outperform the market. we'll continue to deliver unique solutions for customers and outperform the market This is a great time to continue demonstrating what makes Sherwin-Williams so unique. this is a great time to continue demonstrating what makes sherwin-williams so unique We win when our customers win, and that is exactly what we plan to do. we win when our customers win and that is exactly what we plan to do I'd like to end where I started by thanking our team for being truly the best in the industry. This concludes our prepared remarks, and with that, I'd like to thank you for joining us this morning, and we'll be happy to take your questions. I'd like to end where I started by thanking our team for being truly the best in the industry. i'd like to end where i started by thanking our team for being truly the best in the industry This concludes our prepared remarks, and with that, I'd like to thank you for joining us this morning, and we'll be happy to take your questions. this concludes our prepared remarks and with that i'd like to thank you for joining us this morning and we'll be happy to take your questions

Speaker 23: Certainly. Everyone at this time will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone at this time. We do ask that while posing your question, please pick up your handset if you're listening on speakerphone, to provide optimum sound quality. We do ask that participants please ask one question. Once again, if you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone. Our first question is coming from Ghansham Panjabi from Baird. Your line is live. Certainly. certainly Everyone at this time will be conducting a question-and-answer session. everyone at this time will be conducting a question-and-answer session If you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone at this time. if you have any questions or comments please press star one on your phone at this time We do ask that while posing your question, please pick up your handset if you're listening on speakerphone, to provide optimum sound quality. we do ask that while posing your question please pick up your handset if you're listening on speakerphone to provide optimum sound quality We do ask that participants please ask one question. we do ask that participants please ask one question Once again, if you have any questions or comments, please press star one on your phone. once again if you have any questions or comments please press star one on your phone Our first question is coming from Ghansham Panjabi from Baird. our first question is coming from ghansham panjabi from baird Your line is live. your line is live

Speaker 10: Yeah. Thanks, operator. Good morning, everybody. I guess first off, on the, you know, Performance Coatings segment, the margin outperformance there relative to at least our expectations, the incremental seemed very, very high in 4Q, and I know you called out some of the more profitable businesses like Packaging and Auto Refinish being up nicely, et cetera. But can you just give us a bit more color in terms of what drove that? Yeah. yeah Thanks, operator. thanks operator Good morning, everybody. good morning everybody I guess first off, on the, you know, Performance Coatings segment, the margin outperformance there relative to at least our expectations, the incremental seemed very, very high in 4Q, and I know you called out some of the more profitable businesses like Packaging and Auto Refinish being up nicely, et cetera. i guess first off on the you know performance coatings segment the margin outperformance there relative to at least our expectations the incremental seemed very very high in 4q and i know you called out some of the more profitable businesses like packaging and auto refinish being up nicely et cetera But can you just give us a bit more color in terms of what drove that? but can you just give us a bit more color in terms of what drove that

Speaker 12: Yeah, Ghansham, good morning. I think what you're seeing there clearly is discipline on display. This is an organization led under Karl Jorgenrud, been in the industry for over 30 years, and I think this is an environment where we're in the fifth straight year of a challenging demand environment. The team stood tall and delivered, and you're gonna see this play out... a very clear, aggressive focus on new business wins, taking market share, but also a lot of heavy lifting in, we talk about simplification in our enterprise priorities, taking complexity out of the business. I'm very pleased with some of the heavy lifting there. Having said that, we're early innings, and I'll hand it over to Ben here to jump in. Yeah, Ghansham, good morning. yeah ghansham good morning I think what you're seeing there clearly is discipline on display. i think what you're seeing there clearly is discipline on display This is an organization led under Karl Jorgenrud, been in the industry for over 30 years, and I think this is an environment where we're in the fifth straight year of a challenging demand environment. this is an organization led under karl jorgenrud been in the industry for over 30 years and i think this is an environment where we're in the fifth straight year of a challenging demand environment The team stood tall and delivered, and you're gonna see this play out... a very clear, aggressive focus on new business wins, taking market share, but also a lot of heavy lifting in, we talk about simplification in our enterprise priorities, taking complexity out of the business. the team stood tall and delivered and you're gonna see this play out a very clear aggressive focus on new business wins taking market share but also a lot of heavy lifting in we talk about simplification in our enterprise priorities taking complexity out of the business I'm very pleased with some of the heavy lifting there. i'm very pleased with some of the heavy lifting there Having said that, we're early innings, and I'll hand it over to Ben here to jump in. having said that we're early innings and i'll hand it over to ben here to jump in

Speaker 3: Hey, Ghansham, Ben Meisenzahl. Yeah, adding to what Heidi said there, you know, I point to the two halves of PCG. Heidi called out simplification. SG&A has been a focus of this team here. They've consistently been able to keep their SG&A at a moderated pace, considering where volumes are at. But if I look at the two halves, I think that's a good way to look at it here. We were under pressure, the first part of the year, right after the election, and we started seeing some of the new policies take shape. There might have been some hesitation. The operating margin was backwards, about 100 basis points in the first half. The second half, adjusted operating margin showed 20 basis points worth of improvement. Hey, Ghansham, Ben Meisenzahl. hey ghansham ben meisenzahl Yeah, adding to what Heidi said there, you know, I point to the two halves of PCG. yeah adding to what heidi said there you know i point to the two halves of pcg Heidi called out simplification. heidi called out simplification SG&A has been a focus of this team here. sg&a has been a focus of this team here They've consistently been able to keep their SG&A at a moderated pace, considering where volumes are at. they've consistently been able to keep their sg&a at a moderated pace considering where volumes are at But if I look at the two halves, I think that's a good way to look at it here. but if i look at the two halves i think that's a good way to look at it here We were under pressure, the first part of the year, right after the election, and we started seeing some of the new policies take shape. we were under pressure the first part of the year right after the election and we started seeing some of the new policies take shape There might have been some hesitation. there might have been some hesitation The operating margin was backwards, about 100 basis points in the first half. the operating margin was backwards about 100 basis points in the first half The second half, adjusted operating margin showed 20 basis points worth of improvement. the second half adjusted operating margin showed 20 basis points worth of improvement The second half was at 17.9%, pretty close to where, you know, the we ended 2024. Obviously, the 19%, you know, the good pop in, in the fourth quarter. And so I, I, agree with what Heidi said there. It just comes down to discipline, focus on SG&A. I think this is also a good example. We always talk about the operating margin and not looking just at gross margin or SG&A. Here's a really good example of, of why we do that, because we're able to demonstrate and grow operating margin because of really good SG&A controls. The second half was at 17.9%, pretty close to where, you know, the we ended 2024. the second half was at 17.9% pretty close to where you know the we ended 2024 Obviously, the 19%, you know, the good pop in, in the fourth quarter. obviously the 19% you know the good pop in in the fourth quarter And so I, I, agree with what Heidi said there. and so i i agree with what heidi said there It just comes down to discipline, focus on SG&A. it just comes down to discipline focus on sg&a I think this is also a good example. i think this is also a good example We always talk about the operating margin and not looking just at gross margin or SG&A. we always talk about the operating margin and not looking just at gross margin or sg&a Here's a really good example of, of why we do that, because we're able to demonstrate and grow operating margin because of really good SG&A controls. here's a really good example of of why we do that because we're able to demonstrate and grow operating margin because of really good sg&a controls Thank you, Ghansham. Thank you, Ghansham. thank you ghansham

Speaker 23: Thank you. Our next question is coming from John McNulty from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is live. Thank you. thank you Our next question is coming from John McNulty from BMO Capital Markets. our next question is coming from john mcnulty from bmo capital markets Your line is live. your line is live

Speaker 15: Yeah, good morning. Thanks for taking my question and maybe kind of a decent segue from that last question. On the SG&A outlook for 2026, I guess, can you help us to think about what you're factoring in, etc.—what kind of level of growth we should be expecting? 'Cause I know you continue to invest even when the markets struggle. You've also got this 401(k) match coming back in. So I guess, can you help us to think about how that should play out as the year progresses? Yeah, good morning. yeah good morning Thanks for taking my question and maybe kind of a decent segue from that last question. thanks for taking my question and maybe kind of a decent segue from that last question On the SG&A outlook for 2026, I guess, can you help us to think about what you're factoring in, etc.—what kind of level of growth we should be expecting? 'Cause I know you continue to invest even when the markets struggle. on the sg&a outlook for 2026 i guess can you help us to think about what you're factoring in etc.—what kind of level of growth we should be expecting 'cause i know you continue to invest even when the markets struggle You've also got this 401(k) match coming back in. you've also got this 401(k) match coming back in So I guess, can you help us to think about how that should play out as the year progresses? so i guess can you help us to think about how that should play out as the year progresses

Speaker 3: Hey, John. Yeah, the way to think about that, and we called out, you know, Heidi talked about in her opening comments, with reinstating the 401(k) and doing our retroactive match, we're apples to apples, 2025 versus 2024. And so that—the catch-up contribution as it relates to, to 2025 earnings, we're apples to apples there. And so because we did that, as you look 2024, 2025, and then into 2026, there is no, quarter-to-quarter, year-over-year, 401(k), impact. As you look at broader SG&A, you know, as we called out in the opening remarks, SG&A up a low single digit. Hey, John. hey john Yeah, the way to think about that, and we called out, you know, Heidi talked about in her opening comments, with reinstating the 401(k) and doing our retroactive match, we're apples to apples, 2025 versus 2024. yeah the way to think about that and we called out you know heidi talked about in her opening comments with reinstating the 401(k) and doing our retroactive match we're apples to apples 2025 versus 2024 And so that—the catch-up contribution as it relates to, to 2025 earnings, we're apples to apples there. and so that—the catch-up contribution as it relates to to 2025 earnings we're apples to apples there And so because we did that, as you look 2024, 2025, and then into 2026, there is no, quarter-to-quarter, year-over-year, 401(k), impact. and so because we did that as you look 2024 2025 and then into 2026 there is no quarter-to-quarter year-over-year 401(k) impact As you look at broader SG&A, you know, as we called out in the opening remarks, SG&A up a low single digit. as you look at broader sg&a you know as we called out in the opening remarks sg&a up a low single digit That obviously includes the history of the restructuring costs that we took in 2025, and then you layer on the incremental Suvinil, which is also a low single digit. So you can do the math there to figure out the core versus Suvinil. But really what we have, you know, embedded there is, you know, that low single digit growth. Again, that points right back to the cost controls, everything that we talked about throughout the year here. We had about $40 million in savings in 2025. You saw that our one-time restructuring costs were a little bit higher than what we guided to in October. That's gonna give us the ability to upsize the other $40 million that we initially called out. That obviously includes the history of the restructuring costs that we took in 2025, and then you layer on the incremental Suvinil, which is also a low single digit. that obviously includes the history of the restructuring costs that we took in 2025 and then you layer on the incremental suvinil which is also a low single digit So you can do the math there to figure out the core versus Suvinil. so you can do the math there to figure out the core versus suvinil But really what we have, you know, embedded there is, you know, that low single digit growth. but really what we have you know embedded there is you know that low single digit growth Again, that points right back to the cost controls, everything that we talked about throughout the year here. again that points right back to the cost controls everything that we talked about throughout the year here We had about $40 million in savings in 2025. we had about $40 million in savings in 2025 You saw that our one-time restructuring costs were a little bit higher than what we guided to in October. you saw that our one-time restructuring costs were a little bit higher than what we guided to in october That's gonna give us the ability to upsize the other $40 million that we initially called out. that's gonna give us the ability to upsize the other $40 million that we initially called out That's probably closer to $46 million in savings in 2026. And so again, really proud of what the teams are doing to really control cost while volumes are challenged. That's probably closer to $46 million in savings in 2026. that's probably closer to $46 million in savings in 2026 And so again, really proud of what the teams are doing to really control cost while volumes are challenged. and so again really proud of what the teams are doing to really control cost while volumes are challenged

Speaker 12: John, I give Ben a lot of credit. He uses this phrase of to the team, and for those employees listening, I'm talking to you here, too: We wanna earn our SG&A, right? And so we're gonna always pace that to volume, and you're gonna see that discipline play out throughout the year. John, I give Ben a lot of credit. john i give ben a lot of credit He uses this phrase of to the team, and for those employees listening, I'm talking to you here, too: We wanna earn our SG&A, right? he uses this phrase of to the team and for those employees listening i'm talking to you here too we wanna earn our sg&a right And so we're gonna always pace that to volume, and you're gonna see that discipline play out throughout the year. and so we're gonna always pace that to volume and you're gonna see that discipline play out throughout the year

Speaker 14: Thank you, John. Thank you, John. thank you john

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Speaker 4: Great. Thank you so much. You know, can we talk about some of the things that, are more or less in your control in terms of your guidance and, you know, just how you, Ben, and Al are thinking about it in terms of the implied, gross margin guide? You know, just perhaps just a quick comments on healthcare labor assumptions, the raw basket. It seems like there's some divergences between solvents, acrylics, and CO2, asset utilization. Just kind of just what underpins that and what gives you the confidence that that is the correct framework, at least to begin the year? Thank you so much. Great. great Thank you so much. thank you so much You know, can we talk about some of the things that, are more or less in your control in terms of your guidance and, you know, just how you, Ben, and Al are thinking about it in terms of the implied, gross margin guide? you know can we talk about some of the things that are more or less in your control in terms of your guidance and you know just how you ben and al are thinking about it in terms of the implied gross margin guide You know, just perhaps just a quick comments on healthcare labor assumptions, the raw basket. you know just perhaps just a quick comments on healthcare labor assumptions the raw basket It seems like there's some divergences between solvents, acrylics, and CO2, asset utilization. it seems like there's some divergences between solvents acrylics and co2 asset utilization Just kind of just what underpins that and what gives you the confidence that that is the correct framework, at least to begin the year? just kind of just what underpins that and what gives you the confidence that that is the correct framework at least to begin the year Thank you so much. thank you so much

Speaker 14: Yeah, good morning, Chris. This is Jim. I'll start with the raws piece of your question. So as you saw in our slide deck, we're guiding to our raw material basket to be up a low single-digit % this year. That includes tariffs and some of the commodities inflating. In particular, I'd say the areas where we're seeing the most pressure would be on the Packaging side of our basket, also non-TiO2 pigments, extenders, things of that nature. Also some pressure on resins, and I'd say that's a little bit heavier weighted on the industrial side of the basket. But those are the things that are driving the raw material guidance that we're laying out. Yeah, good morning, Chris. yeah good morning chris This is Jim. this is jim I'll start with the raws piece of your question. i'll start with the raws piece of your question So as you saw in our slide deck, we're guiding to our raw material basket to be up a low single-digit % this year. so as you saw in our slide deck we're guiding to our raw material basket to be up a low single-digit % this year That includes tariffs and some of the commodities inflating. that includes tariffs and some of the commodities inflating In particular, I'd say the areas where we're seeing the most pressure would be on the Packaging side of our basket, also non-TiO2 pigments, extenders, things of that nature. in particular i'd say the areas where we're seeing the most pressure would be on the packaging side of our basket also non-tio2 pigments extenders things of that nature Also some pressure on resins, and I'd say that's a little bit heavier weighted on the industrial side of the basket. also some pressure on resins and i'd say that's a little bit heavier weighted on the industrial side of the basket But those are the things that are driving the raw material guidance that we're laying out. but those are the things that are driving the raw material guidance that we're laying out

Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris, I'll add on to the SG&A side and just the overall cost side. You think about we called out in the admin segment, interest expense, you know, being a headwind for next year. So when you look at the growth that we have in our admin spending next year, about half of that is gonna be interest expense, and then half of it is normalization of other non-operating costs and just your general SG&A. And you called out healthcare. We've all seen the headlines, healthcare up, you know, double digits. We're in that camp. We have things that we can do to mitigate that, so what we're passing on to our employees isn't as meaningful as that, so we're trying to be, you know, really diligent there. Yeah, Chris, I'll add on to the SG&A side and just the overall cost side. yeah chris i'll add on to the sg&a side and just the overall cost side You think about we called out in the admin segment, interest expense, you know, being a headwind for next year. you think about we called out in the admin segment interest expense you know being a headwind for next year So when you look at the growth that we have in our admin spending next year, about half of that is gonna be interest expense, and then half of it is normalization of other non-operating costs and just your general SG&A. so when you look at the growth that we have in our admin spending next year about half of that is gonna be interest expense and then half of it is normalization of other non-operating costs and just your general sg&a And you called out healthcare. and you called out healthcare We've all seen the headlines, healthcare up, you know, double digits. we've all seen the headlines healthcare up you know double digits We're in that camp. we're in that camp We have things that we can do to mitigate that, so what we're passing on to our employees isn't as meaningful as that, so we're trying to be, you know, really diligent there. we have things that we can do to mitigate that so what we're passing on to our employees isn't as meaningful as that so we're trying to be you know really diligent there But, you know, we've continued to try to, you know, keep that cost low. If I go back and point to some of the opening comments on the admin SG&A, you know, the core SG&A, we've been able to keep that down low double digits, you know, down low teens, and that just demonstrates again, the levers we're able to pull to make sure we can keep that the costs in check, knowing that, again, we're in that lower volume environment right now. But, you know, we've continued to try to, you know, keep that cost low. but you know we've continued to try to you know keep that cost low If I go back and point to some of the opening comments on the admin SG&A, you know, the core SG&A, we've been able to keep that down low double digits, you know, down low teens, and that just demonstrates again, the levers we're able to pull to make sure we can keep that the costs in check, knowing that, again, we're in that lower volume environment right now. if i go back and point to some of the opening comments on the admin sg&a you know the core sg&a we've been able to keep that down low double digits you know down low teens and that just demonstrates again the levers we're able to pull to make sure we can keep that the costs in check knowing that again we're in that lower volume environment right now

Speaker 14: Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Chris. thank you chris

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Speaker 11: Hi, thanks. I wanted to follow up on, on price mix, in the fourth quarter, and then also the, seven percent price hike on January 1. I, I guess it looks like it was 3%-3.5% price mix in Q4. And with the price increase coming in in January, why wouldn't we expect that to be more, going into the first quarter in 2026? Hi, thanks. hi thanks I wanted to follow up on, on price mix, in the fourth quarter, and then also the, seven percent price hike on January 1. i wanted to follow up on on price mix in the fourth quarter and then also the seven percent price hike on january 1 I, I guess it looks like it was 3%-3.5% price mix in Q4. i i guess it looks like it was 3%-3.5% price mix in q4 And with the price increase coming in in January, why wouldn't we expect that to be more, going into the first quarter in 2026? and with the price increase coming in in january why wouldn't we expect that to be more going into the first quarter in 2026

Speaker 12: Yeah, Greg, I'll start, and I'll hand this over to Ben to give a little bit more color, but I'll take you back to some of the comments I said in my prepared remarks relative to market dynamics. You know, we are looking at the competitive environment. I would frame it more as a jump ball environment, to be honest with you. So we're going to continue to be, as you would expect, extremely aggressive as it relates to chasing volume right now. So there's a balance. The team is very prepared. There's a lot of tenure in the organization. They know how to strike that right balance. Yeah, Greg, I'll start, and I'll hand this over to Ben to give a little bit more color, but I'll take you back to some of the comments I said in my prepared remarks relative to market dynamics. yeah greg i'll start and i'll hand this over to ben to give a little bit more color but i'll take you back to some of the comments i said in my prepared remarks relative to market dynamics You know, we are looking at the competitive environment. you know we are looking at the competitive environment I would frame it more as a jump ball environment, to be honest with you. i would frame it more as a jump ball environment to be honest with you So we're going to continue to be, as you would expect, extremely aggressive as it relates to chasing volume right now. so we're going to continue to be as you would expect extremely aggressive as it relates to chasing volume right now So there's a balance. so there's a balance The team is very prepared. the team is very prepared There's a lot of tenure in the organization. there's a lot of tenure in the organization They know how to strike that right balance. they know how to strike that right balance But I'm very confident that when we get our customers in, I'm very confident in the team's ability to work with them to add value and continue to you know, trade them into more premium products that ultimately is gonna make them more productive. Let me hand it to Ben to comment on the quarter. But I'm very confident that when we get our customers in, I'm very confident in the team's ability to work with them to add value and continue to you know, trade them into more premium products that ultimately is gonna make them more productive. but i'm very confident that when we get our customers in i'm very confident in the team's ability to work with them to add value and continue to you know trade them into more premium products that ultimately is gonna make them more productive Let me hand it to Ben to comment on the quarter. let me hand it to ben to comment on the quarter

Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with everything Heidi said there. And again, we've talked about that price mix, you know, looking at incremental pricing and, you know, mix of some of the business as well. And so you may have, you know, a little bit of noise in there, but Heidi hit the nail on the head with volume. I mean, we've talked about, in this environment, prioritizing volume, and so as our teams know, that high effectiveness is critical, you know, for us to get to the high end of our guide. We're gonna continue to, you know, put the pressure on there to capture as much price as we can, but we're not gonna put volume at risk to do that. Yeah, I agree with everything Heidi said there. yeah i agree with everything heidi said there And again, we've talked about that price mix, you know, looking at incremental pricing and, you know, mix of some of the business as well. and again we've talked about that price mix you know looking at incremental pricing and you know mix of some of the business as well And so you may have, you know, a little bit of noise in there, but Heidi hit the nail on the head with volume. and so you may have you know a little bit of noise in there but heidi hit the nail on the head with volume I mean, we've talked about, in this environment, prioritizing volume, and so as our teams know, that high effectiveness is critical, you know, for us to get to the high end of our guide. i mean we've talked about in this environment prioritizing volume and so as our teams know that high effectiveness is critical you know for us to get to the high end of our guide We're gonna continue to, you know, put the pressure on there to capture as much price as we can, but we're not gonna put volume at risk to do that. we're gonna continue to you know put the pressure on there to capture as much price as we can but we're not gonna put volume at risk to do that And so yeah, that may be what's a little bit different than what you've seen in the past. And so yeah, that may be what's a little bit different than what you've seen in the past. and so yeah that may be what's a little bit different than what you've seen in the past

Speaker 12: But still very confident in our gross margin targets that we put out, and we're gonna hold to that. But still very confident in our gross margin targets that we put out, and we're gonna hold to that. but still very confident in our gross margin targets that we put out and we're gonna hold to that

Speaker 14: Thank you, Greg. Thank you, Greg. thank you greg

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Speaker 6: Thank you. Good morning. Heidi, can you discuss the impact of the severe winter weather on your current demand trends? Does that mean that Q1 EPS could be down year-over-year just because of the weather impacts? Thank you. Thank you. thank you Good morning. good morning Heidi, can you discuss the impact of the severe winter weather on your current demand trends? heidi can you discuss the impact of the severe winter weather on your current demand trends Does that mean that Q1 EPS could be down year-over-year just because of the weather impacts? does that mean that q1 eps could be down year-over-year just because of the weather impacts Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Hey, David, it's Ben. Let me make a couple comments here. I mean, I realize right now in the midst of, you know, watching the storm go through this week, we have weather every quarter. I mean, it impacts us every year. If you remember last year, you know, we had the Gulf winter storm. It had all the classic, ice, you know, wind, snow, everything that you would expect with a winter storm like that. But our Southeast Division and our Southwestern Division, they deal with weather at this time of year, every single year, and so, no concerns there right now. Hey, David, it's Ben. hey david it's ben Let me make a couple comments here. let me make a couple comments here I mean, I realize right now in the midst of, you know, watching the storm go through this week, we have weather every quarter. i mean i realize right now in the midst of you know watching the storm go through this week we have weather every quarter I mean, it impacts us every year. i mean it impacts us every year If you remember last year, you know, we had the Gulf winter storm. if you remember last year you know we had the gulf winter storm It had all the classic, ice, you know, wind, snow, everything that you would expect with a winter storm like that. it had all the classic ice you know wind snow everything that you would expect with a winter storm like that But our Southeast Division and our Southwestern Division, they deal with weather at this time of year, every single year, and so, no concerns there right now. but our southeast division and our southwestern division they deal with weather at this time of year every single year and so no concerns there right now

Speaker 14: Thank you, David. Thank you, David. thank you david

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Speaker 16: Thank you. Your packaging coatings performance is impressive here. Have we recovered to new highs since the correction you had? How much more is left in terms of the conversion of the industry? Thank you. thank you Your packaging coatings performance is impressive here. your packaging coatings performance is impressive here Have we recovered to new highs since the correction you had? have we recovered to new highs since the correction you had How much more is left in terms of the conversion of the industry? how much more is left in terms of the conversion of the industry

Speaker 12: Yeah. Good morning, John. I, I would tell you, you know, we've essentially recovered a lot of what we said was kind of temporary share loss, and but that doesn't mean that we're happy with where we are. There's still a lot more to go get. I, I really like our position here with our leading technology. We continue to win and demonstrate value. We've got some, obviously, dynamics playing out. EFSA, the European Food Safety Association's ban on BPA, that's gonna be taking effect in Q2. We know that that will continue to drive more customer conversions for us, so really like our position here. So we're, we're in good shape. Jim, maybe if you could comment on a few of those areas. Yeah. yeah Good morning, John. good morning john I, I would tell you, you know, we've essentially recovered a lot of what we said was kind of temporary share loss, and but that doesn't mean that we're happy with where we are. i i would tell you you know we've essentially recovered a lot of what we said was kind of temporary share loss and but that doesn't mean that we're happy with where we are There's still a lot more to go get. there's still a lot more to go get I, I really like our position here with our leading technology. i i really like our position here with our leading technology We continue to win and demonstrate value. we continue to win and demonstrate value We've got some, obviously, dynamics playing out. we've got some obviously dynamics playing out EFSA, the European Food Safety Association's ban on BPA, that's gonna be taking effect in Q2. efsa the european food safety association's ban on bpa that's gonna be taking effect in q2 We know that that will continue to drive more customer conversions for us, so really like our position here. we know that that will continue to drive more customer conversions for us so really like our position here So we're, we're in good shape. so we're we're in good shape Jim, maybe if you could comment on a few of those areas. jim maybe if you could comment on a few of those areas

Speaker 14: Yeah. I would add to that, John, that, you know, in terms of how much is left to go, I would say that in Asia and LATAM, there's still quite, quite a bit to go. You know, North America, and as Heidi just pointed out, Europe are farther ahead on that. But in terms of that conversion, those other regions still have quite a ways to go. Thanks for the question. Yeah. yeah I would add to that, John, that, you know, in terms of how much is left to go, I would say that in Asia and LATAM, there's still quite, quite a bit to go. i would add to that john that you know in terms of how much is left to go i would say that in asia and latam there's still quite quite a bit to go You know, North America, and as Heidi just pointed out, Europe are farther ahead on that. you know north america and as heidi just pointed out europe are farther ahead on that But in terms of that conversion, those other regions still have quite a ways to go. but in terms of that conversion those other regions still have quite a ways to go Thanks for the question. thanks for the question

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Speaker 1: Thanks. Good morning. Heidi, I wanted to come back to your comments on focusing more on volumes than price this year. I guess typically this could lead to a bit of a zero-sum game, where your competitors would also focus on volumes. Is there something that's different right now about competitive environment? Maybe your competitors cannot afford lower prices, so they have to raise their prices and cede some volume. Or is there another dynamic that kind of makes your strategy of being more volume focused the right one this year? Thanks. thanks Good morning. good morning Heidi, I wanted to come back to your comments on focusing more on volumes than price this year. heidi i wanted to come back to your comments on focusing more on volumes than price this year I guess typically this could lead to a bit of a zero-sum game, where your competitors would also focus on volumes. i guess typically this could lead to a bit of a zero-sum game where your competitors would also focus on volumes Is there something that's different right now about competitive environment? is there something that's different right now about competitive environment Maybe your competitors cannot afford lower prices, so they have to raise their prices and cede some volume. maybe your competitors cannot afford lower prices so they have to raise their prices and cede some volume Or is there another dynamic that kind of makes your strategy of being more volume focused the right one this year? or is there another dynamic that kind of makes your strategy of being more volume focused the right one this year

Speaker 12: So, Aleksey, let me reframe what I heard you say. I think you said not putting volume above price, and I would say it's not putting volume above price. It's being very balanced in our view here. And so in this, it's a jump ball, competitive environment. There's a lot of market share up for grabs right now, and we're not going to lose our minds, lose our way. We're very disciplined when it comes to pricing, but we wanna make sure that the teams are empowered out in the front lines to convert some of these larger, bigger customers that weren't in Sherwin-Williams family before. We're gonna be dog on a bone in chasing that business. So, Aleksey, let me reframe what I heard you say. so aleksey let me reframe what i heard you say I think you said not putting volume above price, and I would say it's not putting volume above price. i think you said not putting volume above price and i would say it's not putting volume above price It's being very balanced in our view here. it's being very balanced in our view here And so in this, it's a jump ball, competitive environment. and so in this it's a jump ball competitive environment There's a lot of market share up for grabs right now, and we're not going to lose our minds, lose our way. there's a lot of market share up for grabs right now and we're not going to lose our minds lose our way We're very disciplined when it comes to pricing, but we wanna make sure that the teams are empowered out in the front lines to convert some of these larger, bigger customers that weren't in Sherwin-Williams family before. we're very disciplined when it comes to pricing but we wanna make sure that the teams are empowered out in the front lines to convert some of these larger bigger customers that weren't in sherwin-williams family before We're gonna be dog on a bone in chasing that business. we're gonna be dog on a bone in chasing that business

Speaker 3: ... Aleksey, I'll add to that. You know, we've always talked about volume as the number one driver of our operating margin. And so when you look over the long term, getting that, that wider base of, of business, getting that share of wallet and the, and new accounts in, and even when we bring them in, we have ways in our stores, wherever the customer is in their, you know, their journey, to help get them up into those premium products and other ways that, that flows into that price mix as well. But we recognize over the long term, you know, that, that securing the volume, the right volume that we want, is, is how we get to our, our midterm and long-term goals. ... Aleksey, I'll add to that. aleksey i'll add to that You know, we've always talked about volume as the number one driver of our operating margin. you know we've always talked about volume as the number one driver of our operating margin And so when you look over the long term, getting that, that wider base of, of business, getting that share of wallet and the, and new accounts in, and even when we bring them in, we have ways in our stores, wherever the customer is in their, you know, their journey, to help get them up into those premium products and other ways that, that flows into that price mix as well. and so when you look over the long term getting that that wider base of of business getting that share of wallet and the and new accounts in and even when we bring them in we have ways in our stores wherever the customer is in their you know their journey to help get them up into those premium products and other ways that that flows into that price mix as well But we recognize over the long term, you know, that, that securing the volume, the right volume that we want, is, is how we get to our, our midterm and long-term goals. but we recognize over the long term you know that that securing the volume the right volume that we want is is how we get to our our midterm and long-term goals

Speaker 12: One piece Ben just said, and I think it's really important to emphasize: when we bring our contractors in, the confidence we have in treating them up to premium is they are making more money as a result of working with these higher-end, better products. And I'll remind you, the total cost, labor comprises 85%-87% of their total cost. So their willingness to pay a premium to get on and off of job sites faster, have less touch-up, less quality issues, especially in an inflationary environment, it plays to our strengths. One piece Ben just said, and I think it's really important to emphasize: when we bring our contractors in, the confidence we have in treating them up to premium is they are making more money as a result of working with these higher-end, better products. one piece ben just said and i think it's really important to emphasize when we bring our contractors in the confidence we have in treating them up to premium is they are making more money as a result of working with these higher-end better products And I'll remind you, the total cost, labor comprises 85%-87% of their total cost. and i'll remind you the total cost labor comprises 85%-87% of their total cost So their willingness to pay a premium to get on and off of job sites faster, have less touch-up, less quality issues, especially in an inflationary environment, it plays to our strengths. so their willingness to pay a premium to get on and off of job sites faster have less touch-up less quality issues especially in an inflationary environment it plays to our strengths

Speaker 14: Thanks, Aleksey. Thanks, Aleksey. thanks aleksey

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Speaker 13: Thanks very much. Your Residential Repaint sales were up low single digits, but your prices were probably up higher than that. So were Residential Repaint volumes flat or down? And have they decelerated through the course of the year, and if so, why? Thanks very much. thanks very much Your Residential Repaint sales were up low single digits, but your prices were probably up higher than that. your residential repaint sales were up low single digits but your prices were probably up higher than that So were Residential Repaint volumes flat or down? so were residential repaint volumes flat or down And have they decelerated through the course of the year, and if so, why? and have they decelerated through the course of the year and if so why

Speaker 3: Hey, Jeff. If you look at the fourth quarter, we were last year, we had we were up against a really strong comp in Residential Repaint. We were up a high single digit, and so that had a little bit of impact of what you're seeing here for the third quarter. We remain very confident in Res Repaint. This is where, you know, we get, we made all a lot of investments. We're at the biggest opportunity for share gains. We're very confident with that segment, with our pricing realization. I think we're we continue to be very happy with where Res Repaint is. Obviously, as you look forward into 2026, that's a segment that we're gonna continue to count on and invest in. Hey, Jeff. hey jeff If you look at the fourth quarter, we were last year, we had we were up against a really strong comp in Residential Repaint. if you look at the fourth quarter we were last year we had we were up against a really strong comp in residential repaint We were up a high single digit, and so that had a little bit of impact of what you're seeing here for the third quarter. we were up a high single digit and so that had a little bit of impact of what you're seeing here for the third quarter We remain very confident in Res Repaint. we remain very confident in res repaint This is where, you know, we get, we made all a lot of investments. this is where you know we get we made all a lot of investments We're at the biggest opportunity for share gains. we're at the biggest opportunity for share gains We're very confident with that segment, with our pricing realization. we're very confident with that segment with our pricing realization I think we're we continue to be very happy with where Res Repaint is. i think we're we continue to be very happy with where res repaint is Obviously, as you look forward into 2026, that's a segment that we're gonna continue to count on and invest in. obviously as you look forward into 2026 that's a segment that we're gonna continue to count on and invest in

Speaker 12: This is also a segment we have a lot of confidence in because we continue year-over-year to outperform the market, and so I wouldn't characterize it, Jeff, as slowing. I think, if you go back into some of our history, last two years, there was a surge as we continued to focus on taking that Kelly-Moore share. That's now in our history and behind us, so you're probably seeing a little bit of that. But in terms of what is out there, the amount of market share to be gained is extraordinary, and we're gonna chase it. This is also a segment we have a lot of confidence in because we continue year-over-year to outperform the market, and so I wouldn't characterize it, Jeff, as slowing. this is also a segment we have a lot of confidence in because we continue year-over-year to outperform the market and so i wouldn't characterize it jeff as slowing I think, if you go back into some of our history, last two years, there was a surge as we continued to focus on taking that Kelly-Moore share. i think if you go back into some of our history last two years there was a surge as we continued to focus on taking that kelly-moore share That's now in our history and behind us, so you're probably seeing a little bit of that. that's now in our history and behind us so you're probably seeing a little bit of that But in terms of what is out there, the amount of market share to be gained is extraordinary, and we're gonna chase it. but in terms of what is out there the amount of market share to be gained is extraordinary and we're gonna chase it

Speaker 14: Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Jeff. thank you jeff

Speaker 23: Thank you. Our next question is coming from Vincent Andrews from Morgan Stanley. Your line is live. Thank you. thank you Our next question is coming from Vincent Andrews from Morgan Stanley. our next question is coming from vincent andrews from morgan stanley Your line is live. your line is live

Speaker 25: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Wondering if you can help us bridge consumer brands from the fourth quarter performance on the top line up about 25%, with Suvinil in the mid-20s, to your expectations for 1Q and for the full year, with 1Q up low-to-mid-teens now, and the full year up high single to low doubles, recognizing that you have to comp Suvinil late in the year. But what does that imply that, you know, the existing business is gonna do from a volume price mix perspective? And then what is your FX assumption within there as well? Thank you. Thank you, and good morning, everyone. thank you and good morning everyone Wondering if you can help us bridge consumer brands from the fourth quarter performance on the top line up about 25%, with Suvinil in the mid-20s, to your expectations for 1Q and for the full year, with 1Q up low-to-mid-teens now, and the full year up high single to low doubles, recognizing that you have to comp Suvinil late in the year. wondering if you can help us bridge consumer brands from the fourth quarter performance on the top line up about 25% with suvinil in the mid-20s to your expectations for 1q and for the full year with 1q up low-to-mid-teens now and the full year up high single to low doubles recognizing that you have to comp suvinil late in the year But what does that imply that, you know, the existing business is gonna do from a volume price mix perspective? but what does that imply that you know the existing business is gonna do from a volume price mix perspective And then what is your FX assumption within there as well? and then what is your fx assumption within there as well Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Hey, Vincent. Yeah, so going from fourth quarter into next year, I mean, you nailed it. We got the annualization that's obviously gonna have a sizable impact through the third quarter of next year when we annualize. The underlying business, I mean, as Heidi talked about in her opening comments, I mean, there's still a lot of challenges with the North American DIY market. We don't expect that to be an overperformer for us until we see some of the housing catalysts really catch. You asked about, you know, pricing. Hey, Vincent. hey vincent Yeah, so going from fourth quarter into next year, I mean, you nailed it. yeah so going from fourth quarter into next year i mean you nailed it We got the annualization that's obviously gonna have a sizable impact through the third quarter of next year when we annualize. we got the annualization that's obviously gonna have a sizable impact through the third quarter of next year when we annualize The underlying business, I mean, as Heidi talked about in her opening comments, I mean, there's still a lot of challenges with the North American DIY market. the underlying business i mean as heidi talked about in her opening comments i mean there's still a lot of challenges with the north american diy market We don't expect that to be an overperformer for us until we see some of the housing catalysts really catch. we don't expect that to be an overperformer for us until we see some of the housing catalysts really catch You asked about, you know, pricing. you asked about you know pricing All of our businesses have some level of pricing embedded in their guide for next year, and so it even though we don't go out all at the same time like we do for Paint Stores Group, you should expect that there are some targeted price increases, not only for Consumer Brands Group, but also for Performance Coatings Group, that could differ by the different business units or by region. And then FX, you know, when you look at a full year basis, and we do have Consumer Brands Group down a low single digit because of FX. That's mainly gonna come in the second half of the year, and that's mainly coming from headwinds that we anticipate in Latin America. All of our businesses have some level of pricing embedded in their guide for next year, and so it even though we don't go out all at the same time like we do for Paint Stores Group, you should expect that there are some targeted price increases, not only for Consumer Brands Group, but also for Performance Coatings Group, that could differ by the different business units or by region. all of our businesses have some level of pricing embedded in their guide for next year and so it even though we don't go out all at the same time like we do for paint stores group you should expect that there are some targeted price increases not only for consumer brands group but also for performance coatings group that could differ by the different business units or by region And then FX, you know, when you look at a full year basis, and we do have Consumer Brands Group down a low single digit because of FX. and then fx you know when you look at a full year basis and we do have consumer brands group down a low single digit because of fx That's mainly gonna come in the second half of the year, and that's mainly coming from headwinds that we anticipate in Latin America. that's mainly gonna come in the second half of the year and that's mainly coming from headwinds that we anticipate in latin america

Speaker 12: And I'll mention on the Suvinil piece, because I can't help it. We're really excited about this acquisition and the progress that we're making. It's obviously early, but the teams are laser-focused. We've got a dedicated integration team so that our commercial teams can remain laser-focused on our customer and business continuity. I think that we're certainly pulling out the Valspar playbook, the rigor behind customers and employees, and making sure that we're keeping the... What's happening in the market is going to be really important here. We've got an opportunity to demonstrate why these brands are better together, why these teams are better together, so that we can drive innovation with a market-leading brand, and I'm very confident in what we're gonna be able to do in Brazil. And I'll mention on the Suvinil piece, because I can't help it. and i'll mention on the suvinil piece because i can't help it We're really excited about this acquisition and the progress that we're making. we're really excited about this acquisition and the progress that we're making It's obviously early, but the teams are laser-focused. it's obviously early but the teams are laser-focused We've got a dedicated integration team so that our commercial teams can remain laser-focused on our customer and business continuity. we've got a dedicated integration team so that our commercial teams can remain laser-focused on our customer and business continuity I think that we're certainly pulling out the Valspar playbook, the rigor behind customers and employees, and making sure that we're keeping the... i think that we're certainly pulling out the valspar playbook the rigor behind customers and employees and making sure that we're keeping the What's happening in the market is going to be really important here. what's happening in the market is going to be really important here We've got an opportunity to demonstrate why these brands are better together, why these teams are better together, so that we can drive innovation with a market-leading brand, and I'm very confident in what we're gonna be able to do in Brazil. we've got an opportunity to demonstrate why these brands are better together why these teams are better together so that we can drive innovation with a market-leading brand and i'm very confident in what we're gonna be able to do in brazil

Speaker 14: Thank you, Vincent. Thank you, Vincent. thank you vincent

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Speaker 17: Yeah, hey, good morning. So I was trying to go through all the macro assumptions you have in that slide, which is very helpful. When I put that all together, it seems to say that maybe you're thinking the market in your Paint Stores Group is down something like 1%, maybe 2% next year. If I look at your Paint Stores Group guidance, you know, you're flat, your store addition's typically at 1%. So, to me, that implies that you're basically saying you do closer to in line with the market versus outperform by 1% or 2%. I'm just curious if you know disagree with any of that framing. Is the market lower? Are you assuming more? Yeah, hey, good morning. yeah hey good morning So I was trying to go through all the macro assumptions you have in that slide, which is very helpful. so i was trying to go through all the macro assumptions you have in that slide which is very helpful When I put that all together, it seems to say that maybe you're thinking the market in your Paint Stores Group is down something like 1%, maybe 2% next year. when i put that all together it seems to say that maybe you're thinking the market in your paint stores group is down something like 1% maybe 2% next year If I look at your Paint Stores Group guidance, you know, you're flat, your store addition's typically at 1%. if i look at your paint stores group guidance you know you're flat your store addition's typically at 1% So, to me, that implies that you're basically saying you do closer to in line with the market versus outperform by 1% or 2%. so to me that implies that you're basically saying you do closer to in line with the market versus outperform by 1% or 2% I'm just curious if you know disagree with any of that framing. i'm just curious if you know disagree with any of that framing Is the market lower? is the market lower Are you assuming more? are you assuming more Just square that with the comments you've been talking about earlier, about, you know, focus on gaining volumes and share gains. Thanks. Just square that with the comments you've been talking about earlier, about, you know, focus on gaining volumes and share gains. just square that with the comments you've been talking about earlier about you know focus on gaining volumes and share gains Thanks. thanks

Speaker 12: ... Josh, respectfully, I disagree. We, the market is down, I think probably hard to characterize it, but I would say it's down more than that. And where we look at our performance base case, we've guided to down single to up single, and the controllables in that space, and I'll point to Residential Repaint, where we continue to take share in a down market. We're gonna continue to make the investments, putting a new store in every four days, continue to invest in dedicated reps. We're investing in innovation. In fact, in the end of the quarter, we're gonna be launching a zero VOC plant-based interior coating that will be the best paint we've ever made. And it's because we're that confident in our ability to convert share with Residential Repaint. ... Josh, respectfully, I disagree. josh respectfully i disagree We, the market is down, I think probably hard to characterize it, but I would say it's down more than that. we the market is down i think probably hard to characterize it but i would say it's down more than that And where we look at our performance base case, we've guided to down single to up single, and the controllables in that space, and I'll point to Residential Repaint, where we continue to take share in a down market. and where we look at our performance base case we've guided to down single to up single and the controllables in that space and i'll point to residential repaint where we continue to take share in a down market We're gonna continue to make the investments, putting a new store in every four days, continue to invest in dedicated reps. we're gonna continue to make the investments putting a new store in every four days continue to invest in dedicated reps We're investing in innovation. we're investing in innovation In fact, in the end of the quarter, we're gonna be launching a zero VOC plant-based interior coating that will be the best paint we've ever made. in fact in the end of the quarter we're gonna be launching a zero voc plant-based interior coating that will be the best paint we've ever made And it's because we're that confident in our ability to convert share with Residential Repaint. and it's because we're that confident in our ability to convert share with residential repaint I hand over to Ben to speak to any of the other segments here. I hand over to Ben to speak to any of the other segments here. i hand over to ben to speak to any of the other segments here

Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if I take it to, you know, talking about, you know, volume here, I think one thing to point at in Paint Stores Group is the ability, even in, you know, a challenged volume market, to still, you know, grow incremental margins. And you look at what happened in the fourth quarter, with volumes down low single digit, with through good cost control, you know, we're able to generate, you know, almost a 50% incremental margin. And if you look at, you know, the full year, I mean, it's almost 40%, again, in a volume challenged environment. And so we're gonna continue to find ways, in, you know, despite what's happening in the market, to continue to drive margin. Yeah, I mean, if I take it to, you know, talking about, you know, volume here, I think one thing to point at in Paint Stores Group is the ability, even in, you know, a challenged volume market, to still, you know, grow incremental margins. yeah i mean if i take it to you know talking about you know volume here i think one thing to point at in paint stores group is the ability even in you know a challenged volume market to still you know grow incremental margins And you look at what happened in the fourth quarter, with volumes down low single digit, with through good cost control, you know, we're able to generate, you know, almost a 50% incremental margin. and you look at what happened in the fourth quarter with volumes down low single digit with through good cost control you know we're able to generate you know almost a 50% incremental margin And if you look at, you know, the full year, I mean, it's almost 40%, again, in a volume challenged environment. and if you look at you know the full year i mean it's almost 40% again in a volume challenged environment And so we're gonna continue to find ways, in, you know, despite what's happening in the market, to continue to drive margin. and so we're gonna continue to find ways in you know despite what's happening in the market to continue to drive margin

Speaker 14: Thanks, Josh. Thanks, Josh. thanks josh

Speaker 23: Thank you. Our next question is coming from Mike Sisson from Wells Fargo. Your line is live. Thank you. thank you Our next question is coming from Mike Sisson from Wells Fargo. our next question is coming from mike sisson from wells fargo Your line is live. your line is live

Speaker 22: Hey, good morning. How do you mention that you'd welcome some, you know, policies or proposals to, to, to help affordability increase supply? You know, what do you think would be helpful in terms of, you know, maybe sparking a recovery in, in paint demand this year? And then quick follow-up in Protective and Marine had another good year. Is that mostly the protective side, and does it go into data centers? And if it does, you know, how big and what's the potential there? Thank you. Hey, good morning. hey good morning How do you mention that you'd welcome some, you know, policies or proposals to, to, to help affordability increase supply? how do you mention that you'd welcome some you know policies or proposals to to to help affordability increase supply You know, what do you think would be helpful in terms of, you know, maybe sparking a recovery in, in paint demand this year? you know what do you think would be helpful in terms of you know maybe sparking a recovery in in paint demand this year And then quick follow-up in Protective and Marine had another good year. and then quick follow-up in protective and marine had another good year Is that mostly the protective side, and does it go into data centers? is that mostly the protective side and does it go into data centers And if it does, you know, how big and what's the potential there? and if it does you know how big and what's the potential there Thank you. thank you

Speaker 12: Great. Well, Mike, I thought you were gonna offer up a policy recommendation, so yeah, we look at this kind of a three-legged stool, if you will. I don't know that it's gonna be one without the other. I think it's a combination of household income, rates, and affordability. And so as we come into, you know, a year of a midterm election, we'll see what moves there. But at the end of the day, our builders, our partners, are still, you know, still hesitating and waiting to see for some of those things to be solved. I think we're in an environment here where, as we partner with these, our builders, and I remind you, we've got a pretty healthy position with some of the largest builders from an exclusive standpoint. Great. great Well, Mike, I thought you were gonna offer up a policy recommendation, so yeah, we look at this kind of a three-legged stool, if you will. well mike i thought you were gonna offer up a policy recommendation so yeah we look at this kind of a three-legged stool if you will I don't know that it's gonna be one without the other. i don't know that it's gonna be one without the other I think it's a combination of household income, rates, and affordability. i think it's a combination of household income rates and affordability And so as we come into, you know, a year of a midterm election, we'll see what moves there. and so as we come into you know a year of a midterm election we'll see what moves there But at the end of the day, our builders, our partners, are still, you know, still hesitating and waiting to see for some of those things to be solved. but at the end of the day our builders our partners are still you know still hesitating and waiting to see for some of those things to be solved I think we're in an environment here where, as we partner with these, our builders, and I remind you, we've got a pretty healthy position with some of the largest builders from an exclusive standpoint. i think we're in an environment here where as we partner with these our builders and i remind you we've got a pretty healthy position with some of the largest builders from an exclusive standpoint So our ability to lock in with them, help them see around the corner and plan, is gonna be important now more than ever. I'll move on to the PNM side, and yeah, it is higher on the protective side than the marine side. And you said it right, Mike, it—this is where Sherwin-Williams is so exceptionally well positioned because of the boom we see with AI infrastructure. As you look across that PNM division and the healthy pipeline that the team is working on and what we can bring to market, these data centers, for example, if you look at every coating that every surface that needs to be coated, we've got a solution. So our ability to lock in with them, help them see around the corner and plan, is gonna be important now more than ever. so our ability to lock in with them help them see around the corner and plan is gonna be important now more than ever I'll move on to the PNM side, and yeah, it is higher on the protective side than the marine side. i'll move on to the pnm side and yeah it is higher on the protective side than the marine side And you said it right, Mike, it—this is where Sherwin-Williams is so exceptionally well positioned because of the boom we see with AI infrastructure. and you said it right mike it—this is where sherwin-williams is so exceptionally well positioned because of the boom we see with ai infrastructure As you look across that PNM division and the healthy pipeline that the team is working on and what we can bring to market, these data centers, for example, if you look at every coating that every surface that needs to be coated, we've got a solution. as you look across that pnm division and the healthy pipeline that the team is working on and what we can bring to market these data centers for example if you look at every coating that every surface that needs to be coated we've got a solution Our high-performance flooring, that we've just made some acquisitions in recently, puts us in market leadership position, and you're gonna see us be extremely bullish, as we move forward. Our high-performance flooring, that we've just made some acquisitions in recently, puts us in market leadership position, and you're gonna see us be extremely bullish, as we move forward. our high-performance flooring that we've just made some acquisitions in recently puts us in market leadership position and you're gonna see us be extremely bullish as we move forward

Speaker 3: Yeah. Mike, I'll add just one more thing. I mean, going back to, you know, the first question in the politics, and Heidi laid that out well. You know, what that all means to us as it relates to our outlook, you know, if there are things that happen, if there are policies that are implemented that become tailwinds for us, the plan that we have built, you know, is gonna enable us to capture those and win from those. Yeah. yeah Mike, I'll add just one more thing. mike i'll add just one more thing I mean, going back to, you know, the first question in the politics, and Heidi laid that out well. i mean going back to you know the first question in the politics and heidi laid that out well You know, what that all means to us as it relates to our outlook, you know, if there are things that happen, if there are policies that are implemented that become tailwinds for us, the plan that we have built, you know, is gonna enable us to capture those and win from those. you know what that all means to us as it relates to our outlook you know if there are things that happen if there are policies that are implemented that become tailwinds for us the plan that we have built you know is gonna enable us to capture those and win from those So I know we outlined on slide nine of the presentation, you know, some of our economic assumptions, and so we're gonna be watching to see if there are policy adjustments that could turn some of those metrics better for us, and in turn, you should expect our performance to mirror that. So I know we outlined on slide nine of the presentation, you know, some of our economic assumptions, and so we're gonna be watching to see if there are policy adjustments that could turn some of those metrics better for us, and in turn, you should expect our performance to mirror that. so i know we outlined on slide nine of the presentation you know some of our economic assumptions and so we're gonna be watching to see if there are policy adjustments that could turn some of those metrics better for us and in turn you should expect our performance to mirror that

Speaker 14: Thanks, Mike. Thanks, Mike. thanks mike

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Speaker 24: Hi, good morning. So Heidi, throughout the past year and a half, you've talked about, you know, capitalizing on opportunities, you know, disruption in the industry. And given the recent, you know, mega-merger announcement, there's potentially some fresh disruption. So how would you characterize the opportunity set, maybe within more of your industrial-facing businesses? Hi, good morning. hi good morning So Heidi, throughout the past year and a half, you've talked about, you know, capitalizing on opportunities, you know, disruption in the industry. so heidi throughout the past year and a half you've talked about you know capitalizing on opportunities you know disruption in the industry And given the recent, you know, mega-merger announcement, there's potentially some fresh disruption. and given the recent you know mega-merger announcement there's potentially some fresh disruption So how would you characterize the opportunity set, maybe within more of your industrial-facing businesses? so how would you characterize the opportunity set maybe within more of your industrial-facing businesses

Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a great question. I think the word disruption is the right word. When you think about what's in play there, obviously there's it impacts several of our divisions. And the teams are gonna continue to be very aggressive out there. You know, but when I step back and look at the big picture over the last few years, I think it's safe to say that by and large, there's been a lot of shift across the competitive set on both architectural and industrial. And what I'm most excited about is the stability of our strategy. We've got a rock-solid strategy. We've got the playbook. We've got the management team, the team out in the field every day, clarity about how to execute that playbook. Yeah, it's a great question. yeah it's a great question I think the word disruption is the right word. i think the word disruption is the right word When you think about what's in play there, obviously there's it impacts several of our divisions. when you think about what's in play there obviously there's it impacts several of our divisions And the teams are gonna continue to be very aggressive out there. and the teams are gonna continue to be very aggressive out there You know, but when I step back and look at the big picture over the last few years, I think it's safe to say that by and large, there's been a lot of shift across the competitive set on both architectural and industrial. you know but when i step back and look at the big picture over the last few years i think it's safe to say that by and large there's been a lot of shift across the competitive set on both architectural and industrial And what I'm most excited about is the stability of our strategy. and what i'm most excited about is the stability of our strategy We've got a rock-solid strategy. we've got a rock-solid strategy We've got the playbook. we've got the playbook We've got the management team, the team out in the field every day, clarity about how to execute that playbook. we've got the management team the team out in the field every day clarity about how to execute that playbook So we mentioned earlier that there's, you know, we take volatility as an opportunity to create opportunity, whether that's in the macro or in the competitive landscape. We're gonna be just that. We're gonna continue to stay close and get closer to our customers, find new ways to solve their challenges, and we're gonna come out winning. So we mentioned earlier that there's, you know, we take volatility as an opportunity to create opportunity, whether that's in the macro or in the competitive landscape. so we mentioned earlier that there's you know we take volatility as an opportunity to create opportunity whether that's in the macro or in the competitive landscape We're gonna be just that. we're gonna be just that We're gonna continue to stay close and get closer to our customers, find new ways to solve their challenges, and we're gonna come out winning. we're gonna continue to stay close and get closer to our customers find new ways to solve their challenges and we're gonna come out winning

Speaker 14: Thank you, Patrick. Thank you, Patrick. thank you patrick

Speaker 23: Thank you. Our next question is coming from Arun Viswanathan from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is live. Thank you. thank you Our next question is coming from Arun Viswanathan from RBC Capital Markets. our next question is coming from arun viswanathan from rbc capital markets Your line is live. your line is live

Speaker 2: ... Great. Thanks for taking my question. Hope you guys are well. I guess I just wanted to understand the element of potential conservatism in the guide here and maybe what, what could get you to the upper end. It sounds like, you know, you will be implementing that price increase, maybe get 2-3 points out of that. And then, you know, would it be mainly volume in Paint Stores Group? I mean, we have seen some improvement in existing home sales over the last few months. And are you kind of assuming kind of, you know, continued softness in commercial and new? ... Great. great Thanks for taking my question. thanks for taking my question Hope you guys are well. hope you guys are well I guess I just wanted to understand the element of potential conservatism in the guide here and maybe what, what could get you to the upper end. i guess i just wanted to understand the element of potential conservatism in the guide here and maybe what what could get you to the upper end It sounds like, you know, you will be implementing that price increase, maybe get 2-3 points out of that. it sounds like you know you will be implementing that price increase maybe get 2-3 points out of that And then, you know, would it be mainly volume in Paint Stores Group? and then you know would it be mainly volume in paint stores group I mean, we have seen some improvement in existing home sales over the last few months. i mean we have seen some improvement in existing home sales over the last few months And are you kind of assuming kind of, you know, continued softness in commercial and new? and are you kind of assuming kind of you know continued softness in commercial and new Maybe you can just kind of go through some of the verticals within Paint Stores Group and see how, you know, maybe some of the different scenarios could play out and maybe push you towards the upper end of that guide. Thanks. Maybe you can just kind of go through some of the verticals within Paint Stores Group and see how, you know, maybe some of the different scenarios could play out and maybe push you towards the upper end of that guide. maybe you can just kind of go through some of the verticals within paint stores group and see how you know maybe some of the different scenarios could play out and maybe push you towards the upper end of that guide Thanks. thanks

Speaker 3: Hey, Arun. You know, I'll start with saying that, you know, when you look at our outlook, I would call it realistic. And again, if I point back to the presentation deck and the economic assumptions that have the foundation of our guidance, you can see how, you know, we're framing that out. And I'll point to a couple of the indicators. You know, if you look at existing home turnover, there's a wide varying range of assumptions next year. You have some people that think it's going to be back 1%-2%. You've got some that are reporting it could be as high as 14%. Hey, Arun. hey arun You know, I'll start with saying that, you know, when you look at our outlook, I would call it realistic. you know i'll start with saying that you know when you look at our outlook i would call it realistic And again, if I point back to the presentation deck and the economic assumptions that have the foundation of our guidance, you can see how, you know, we're framing that out. and again if i point back to the presentation deck and the economic assumptions that have the foundation of our guidance you can see how you know we're framing that out And I'll point to a couple of the indicators. and i'll point to a couple of the indicators You know, if you look at existing home turnover, there's a wide varying range of assumptions next year. you know if you look at existing home turnover there's a wide varying range of assumptions next year You have some people that think it's going to be back 1%-2%. you have some people that think it's going to be back 1%-2% You've got some that are reporting it could be as high as 14%. you've got some that are reporting it could be as high as 14% And so I think what's important for us to share and the reason that we put that slide together, so you could anchor on—you could see where we were anchoring our basis for our midpoint guidance. And so we feel in that example, with existing home sales, it's more realistic to be, you know, in that low single digit range, absent any, you know, major policy shifts or anything else that we talked about. And so, the basis of that foundation, I think we feel very, you know, comfortable and confident with. And as I mentioned earlier, if those indicators get better, if we see, you know, rates, you know, trend lower, if existing home sales turnover is higher, if consumer confidence and affordability gets better, you should expect that our results are higher than the midpoint that we're providing. And so I think what's important for us to share and the reason that we put that slide together, so you could anchor on—you could see where we were anchoring our basis for our midpoint guidance. and so i think what's important for us to share and the reason that we put that slide together so you could anchor on—you could see where we were anchoring our basis for our midpoint guidance And so we feel in that example, with existing home sales, it's more realistic to be, you know, in that low single digit range, absent any, you know, major policy shifts or anything else that we talked about. and so we feel in that example with existing home sales it's more realistic to be you know in that low single digit range absent any you know major policy shifts or anything else that we talked about And so, the basis of that foundation, I think we feel very, you know, comfortable and confident with. and so the basis of that foundation i think we feel very you know comfortable and confident with And as I mentioned earlier, if those indicators get better, if we see, you know, rates, you know, trend lower, if existing home sales turnover is higher, if consumer confidence and affordability gets better, you should expect that our results are higher than the midpoint that we're providing. and as i mentioned earlier if those indicators get better if we see you know rates you know trend lower if existing home sales turnover is higher if consumer confidence and affordability gets better you should expect that our results are higher than the midpoint that we're providing

Speaker 14: Thank you, Arun. Thank you, Arun. thank you arun

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Speaker 7: Yeah, good morning. Could we go back to Consumer Brands Group? I just want to understand the margin implication of Suvinil coming in and the cost-cutting programs. So do we need to kind of model a 2% decline year-over-year until we anniversary Suvinil, and then, you know, it kind of bounces back up towards normal? Or how to think about that playing out throughout this year, and then once we've anniversaried it, what does it look like? Yeah, good morning. yeah good morning Could we go back to Consumer Brands Group? could we go back to consumer brands group I just want to understand the margin implication of Suvinil coming in and the cost-cutting programs. i just want to understand the margin implication of suvinil coming in and the cost-cutting programs So do we need to kind of model a 2% decline year-over-year until we anniversary Suvinil, and then, you know, it kind of bounces back up towards normal? so do we need to kind of model a 2% decline year-over-year until we anniversary suvinil and then you know it kind of bounces back up towards normal Or how to think about that playing out throughout this year, and then once we've anniversaried it, what does it look like? or how to think about that playing out throughout this year and then once we've anniversaried it what does it look like

Speaker 3: Hey, Duffy. Yeah, if you think about, the fourth quarter is generally a lower margin quarter, for us anyway. And as we talked about, you know, coming out of our second quarter call, you know, we, Consumer Brands Group, we have some supply chain inefficiencies built in there, and that was, you know, due to targeted, production volume, reductions as, as we're trying to manage our inventory to the end of the year. So with Suvinil, I know there's a lot of noise there. With Suvinil coming in, that doesn't, that doesn't help as well. But what I will tell you is that, you know, from an operating margin point of view, we should expect to see, you know, similar, core business, to our existing Sherwin business. We will have some integrating costs. Hey, Duffy. hey duffy Yeah, if you think about, the fourth quarter is generally a lower margin quarter, for us anyway. yeah if you think about the fourth quarter is generally a lower margin quarter for us anyway And as we talked about, you know, coming out of our second quarter call, you know, we, Consumer Brands Group, we have some supply chain inefficiencies built in there, and that was, you know, due to targeted, production volume, reductions as, as we're trying to manage our inventory to the end of the year. and as we talked about you know coming out of our second quarter call you know we consumer brands group we have some supply chain inefficiencies built in there and that was you know due to targeted production volume reductions as as we're trying to manage our inventory to the end of the year So with Suvinil, I know there's a lot of noise there. so with suvinil i know there's a lot of noise there With Suvinil coming in, that doesn't, that doesn't help as well. with suvinil coming in that doesn't that doesn't help as well But what I will tell you is that, you know, from an operating margin point of view, we should expect to see, you know, similar, core business, to our existing Sherwin business. but what i will tell you is that you know from an operating margin point of view we should expect to see you know similar core business to our existing sherwin business We will have some integrating costs. we will have some integrating costs As you can imagine, a deal of that size, the integrating activities that are going to be required, the system, integrations, et cetera, we're going to have some costs, as we go through 2026. But, you know, from a margin point of view, yeah, until we anniversary that in, in the third quarter of of next year, you know, you, you can expect it to be, maybe, maybe a little, muted, the same degree that you saw in the fourth quarter. As you can imagine, a deal of that size, the integrating activities that are going to be required, the system, integrations, et cetera, we're going to have some costs, as we go through 2026. as you can imagine a deal of that size the integrating activities that are going to be required the system integrations et cetera we're going to have some costs as we go through 2026 But, you know, from a margin point of view, yeah, until we anniversary that in, in the third quarter of of next year, you know, you, you can expect it to be, maybe, maybe a little, muted, the same degree that you saw in the fourth quarter. but you know from a margin point of view yeah until we anniversary that in in the third quarter of of next year you know you you can expect it to be maybe maybe a little muted the same degree that you saw in the fourth quarter

Speaker 14: Thanks, Duffy. Thanks, Duffy. thanks duffy

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Speaker 21: Hi, good morning. You've talked in the past about periodic repaints of houses occurring every five to seven years. A lot of demand was pulled forward into the 2021 timeframe, so, you know, we should be getting into a period where we should start to see more repaint activity. In your view, Heidi, what is preventing that thesis from playing out? Is it the cost of labor and maybe availability of paint contractors? Is it the cost of the paint itself? You know, when you think about consumer sentiment and, you know, just propensity to repaint periodically, you know, what could conflict with that prevailing view of repainting every five to seven years? Hi, good morning. hi good morning You've talked in the past about periodic repaints of houses occurring every five to seven years. you've talked in the past about periodic repaints of houses occurring every five to seven years A lot of demand was pulled forward into the 2021 timeframe, so, you know, we should be getting into a period where we should start to see more repaint activity. a lot of demand was pulled forward into the 2021 timeframe so you know we should be getting into a period where we should start to see more repaint activity In your view, Heidi, what is preventing that thesis from playing out? in your view heidi what is preventing that thesis from playing out Is it the cost of labor and maybe availability of paint contractors? is it the cost of labor and maybe availability of paint contractors Is it the cost of the paint itself? is it the cost of the paint itself You know, when you think about consumer sentiment and, you know, just propensity to repaint periodically, you know, what could conflict with that prevailing view of repainting every five to seven years? you know when you think about consumer sentiment and you know just propensity to repaint periodically you know what could conflict with that prevailing view of repainting every five to seven years

Speaker 12: Yeah, and you're right, it is, we say, a kind of a five to six to seven year cycle, and we are coming off of that post-COVID. I do think there are some natural governors in play right now, just because we are in an inflationary environment. Consumer confidence is absolutely impacted. When you think about home improvement in general, though, what I love about our position is that we're one of the most affordable and most quick to update your home versus larger kitchen and bath projects. And so I do believe as we continue to monitor a lot of these indicators, we're going to stay very close to it, but we'd like to see more tick up happen faster. I do think it's going to still be a bit choppy throughout the year. Yeah, and you're right, it is, we say, a kind of a five to six to seven year cycle, and we are coming off of that post-COVID. yeah and you're right it is we say a kind of a five to six to seven year cycle and we are coming off of that post-covid I do think there are some natural governors in play right now, just because we are in an inflationary environment. i do think there are some natural governors in play right now just because we are in an inflationary environment Consumer confidence is absolutely impacted. consumer confidence is absolutely impacted When you think about home improvement in general, though, what I love about our position is that we're one of the most affordable and most quick to update your home versus larger kitchen and bath projects. when you think about home improvement in general though what i love about our position is that we're one of the most affordable and most quick to update your home versus larger kitchen and bath projects And so I do believe as we continue to monitor a lot of these indicators, we're going to stay very close to it, but we'd like to see more tick up happen faster. and so i do believe as we continue to monitor a lot of these indicators we're going to stay very close to it but we'd like to see more tick up happen faster I do think it's going to still be a bit choppy throughout the year. i do think it's going to still be a bit choppy throughout the year I'll remind you, too, the DIY segment represents about 40% of the available gallons out there, and so when it starts to move, you're going to want to come along for the ride, but we just need it to start moving. I'll remind you, too, the DIY segment represents about 40% of the available gallons out there, and so when it starts to move, you're going to want to come along for the ride, but we just need it to start moving. i'll remind you too the diy segment represents about 40% of the available gallons out there and so when it starts to move you're going to want to come along for the ride but we just need it to start moving

Speaker 14: I think Ben's point that he mentioned a minute ago is important too, Mike, around the existing home sale outlook. I mean, that range of some saying existing home sales could be down I think Ben's point that he mentioned a minute ago is important too, Mike, around the existing home sale outlook. i think ben's point that he mentioned a minute ago is important too mike around the existing home sale outlook I mean, that range of some saying existing home sales could be down i mean that range of some saying existing home sales could be down ... low single digits to up 14%, that gives you a really good view, I think, into the uncertainty that's out there in terms of demand. So, whatever way it goes, though, we expect to outperform, and we're very well positioned to do that based on the investments we've consistently made over the last two years. And thanks for the question. ... low single digits to up 14%, that gives you a really good view, I think, into the uncertainty that's out there in terms of demand. low single digits to up 14% that gives you a really good view i think into the uncertainty that's out there in terms of demand So, whatever way it goes, though, we expect to outperform, and we're very well positioned to do that based on the investments we've consistently made over the last two years. so whatever way it goes though we expect to outperform and we're very well positioned to do that based on the investments we've consistently made over the last two years And thanks for the question. and thanks for the question

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Speaker 18: Yes, thank you, and good morning. Heidi, in the prepared remarks, I, I think you commented with regard to the 7% price increase that you'd expect realization to be in the low single-digit % range. I, I'm not sure if that was a near-term comment or, or if that's where you would expect to be in the fullness of time, but maybe you can elaborate on, on what that trajectory does look like over the next few quarters. And what I'm really trying to get at is the nexus between this realization versus your historical realizations against the backdrop of, you know, your aggressive pursuit of volume. Will it be lower this time, or, or do you think ultimately it will be the same? Yes, thank you, and good morning. yes thank you and good morning Heidi, in the prepared remarks, I, I think you commented with regard to the 7% price increase that you'd expect realization to be in the low single-digit % range. heidi in the prepared remarks i i think you commented with regard to the 7% price increase that you'd expect realization to be in the low single-digit % range I, I'm not sure if that was a near-term comment or, or if that's where you would expect to be in the fullness of time, but maybe you can elaborate on, on what that trajectory does look like over the next few quarters. i i'm not sure if that was a near-term comment or or if that's where you would expect to be in the fullness of time but maybe you can elaborate on on what that trajectory does look like over the next few quarters And what I'm really trying to get at is the nexus between this realization versus your historical realizations against the backdrop of, you know, your aggressive pursuit of volume. and what i'm really trying to get at is the nexus between this realization versus your historical realizations against the backdrop of you know your aggressive pursuit of volume Will it be lower this time, or, or do you think ultimately it will be the same? will it be lower this time or or do you think ultimately it will be the same

Speaker 12: We've said it's gonna be in the historic range, maybe at the low end of the historic range, but I would look at this again because of this unique competitive environment that we find ourselves in. When I look at the low single-digit guidance, I would think of that, Kevin, as a full-year guide, and I'll invite Ben to jump in on any other details. We've said it's gonna be in the historic range, maybe at the low end of the historic range, but I would look at this again because of this unique competitive environment that we find ourselves in. we've said it's gonna be in the historic range maybe at the low end of the historic range but i would look at this again because of this unique competitive environment that we find ourselves in When I look at the low single-digit guidance, I would think of that, Kevin, as a full-year guide, and I'll invite Ben to jump in on any other details. when i look at the low single-digit guidance i would think of that kevin as a full-year guide and i'll invite ben to jump in on any other details

Speaker 3: Yeah, Kevin, I think what's important to know here, you know, that the teams are engaged. We're getting after the effectiveness, you know, where we can get it. There might be some delayed realization as you have different accounts that go a little later than January, and so we're gonna continue to monitor this. We know how to do this well. There's a high degree of confidence in our Paint Stores Group teams to get the price where they can, and we're gonna manage it that way. Yeah, Kevin, I think what's important to know here, you know, that the teams are engaged. yeah kevin i think what's important to know here you know that the teams are engaged We're getting after the effectiveness, you know, where we can get it. we're getting after the effectiveness you know where we can get it There might be some delayed realization as you have different accounts that go a little later than January, and so we're gonna continue to monitor this. there might be some delayed realization as you have different accounts that go a little later than january and so we're gonna continue to monitor this We know how to do this well. we know how to do this well There's a high degree of confidence in our Paint Stores Group teams to get the price where they can, and we're gonna manage it that way. there's a high degree of confidence in our paint stores group teams to get the price where they can and we're gonna manage it that way

Speaker 14: Thank you, Kevin. Thank you, Kevin. thank you kevin

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Speaker 20: Yeah, good morning, everyone. To build a little bit on Pat's question, would you look at or participate in any asset sales on the backs of the kind of the peer merger going on? I mean, I know it's a bit of a broad question, considering there's a pretty diversified portfolio, but say, for example, powder coatings, right? Would new market entry be interesting to you or expansion in some of these other more core industrial segments? Yeah, good morning, everyone. yeah good morning everyone To build a little bit on Pat's question, would you look at or participate in any asset sales on the backs of the kind of the peer merger going on? to build a little bit on pat's question would you look at or participate in any asset sales on the backs of the kind of the peer merger going on I mean, I know it's a bit of a broad question, considering there's a pretty diversified portfolio, but say, for example, powder coatings, right? i mean i know it's a bit of a broad question considering there's a pretty diversified portfolio but say for example powder coatings right Would new market entry be interesting to you or expansion in some of these other more core industrial segments? would new market entry be interesting to you or expansion in some of these other more core industrial segments

Speaker 12: Well, Matt, we love to grow, and we love expansion. Having said that, you know, the way we look at our our growth strategy, obviously, where we start with an organic focus. When we consider inorganic activity, it's a very disciplined review of our portfolio, which you just said. And so when I think about the, you know, what's in play there and as stewards of your capital, you know, we're always going to look, but, there are a few of those businesses that they fell out of the air and into our laps, all day long, yes, we would love them. But, right now we're just focusing on growing organically and competing in the market. Well, Matt, we love to grow, and we love expansion. well matt we love to grow and we love expansion Having said that, you know, the way we look at our our growth strategy, obviously, where we start with an organic focus. having said that you know the way we look at our our growth strategy obviously where we start with an organic focus When we consider inorganic activity, it's a very disciplined review of our portfolio, which you just said. when we consider inorganic activity it's a very disciplined review of our portfolio which you just said And so when I think about the, you know, what's in play there and as stewards of your capital, you know, we're always going to look, but, there are a few of those businesses that they fell out of the air and into our laps, all day long, yes, we would love them. and so when i think about the you know what's in play there and as stewards of your capital you know we're always going to look but there are a few of those businesses that they fell out of the air and into our laps all day long yes we would love them But, right now we're just focusing on growing organically and competing in the market. but right now we're just focusing on growing organically and competing in the market

Speaker 14: Thank you, Matt. Thank you, Matt. thank you matt

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Speaker 9: Oh, hi. Thank you. As you made the decision to bring back the 401(k) match, you cited delays in tariffs as one of the drivers that helped you decide to reinstitute it. I was wondering if there was anything else specifically that you're looking at that gave you confidence. And just on the flip side, you're talking to a number of choppy macro indicators and, you know, trends that don't seem to be flipping anytime soon. I was wondering if there's any incremental costs that you're looking to implement this year. Oh, hi. oh hi Thank you. thank you As you made the decision to bring back the 401(k) match, you cited delays in tariffs as one of the drivers that helped you decide to reinstitute it. as you made the decision to bring back the 401(k) match you cited delays in tariffs as one of the drivers that helped you decide to reinstitute it I was wondering if there was anything else specifically that you're looking at that gave you confidence. i was wondering if there was anything else specifically that you're looking at that gave you confidence And just on the flip side, you're talking to a number of choppy macro indicators and, you know, trends that don't seem to be flipping anytime soon. and just on the flip side you're talking to a number of choppy macro indicators and you know trends that don't seem to be flipping anytime soon I was wondering if there's any incremental costs that you're looking to implement this year. i was wondering if there's any incremental costs that you're looking to implement this year

Speaker 12: Right. So, Garik, I'll, I'm gonna start, and then I'll hand this over to Ben. I think your point and your recognition and our recognition that the tariffs are going to have a delayed realization, so I'll have Ben comment on that here in a moment. But I do want to take a minute just to address this. I think we said this in the prepared remarks, but this decision was not made on a single quarter or any short-term optics. And we all know this period of elevated and prolonged uncertainty, we had one objective in mind, which was protecting the operating strength, the stability and the long-term health of our company by protecting jobs. And I'm really proud that we've been in a position to restore that. Right. right So, Garik, I'll, I'm gonna start, and then I'll hand this over to Ben. so garik i'll i'm gonna start and then i'll hand this over to ben I think your point and your recognition and our recognition that the tariffs are going to have a delayed realization, so I'll have Ben comment on that here in a moment. i think your point and your recognition and our recognition that the tariffs are going to have a delayed realization so i'll have ben comment on that here in a moment But I do want to take a minute just to address this. but i do want to take a minute just to address this I think we said this in the prepared remarks, but this decision was not made on a single quarter or any short-term optics. i think we said this in the prepared remarks but this decision was not made on a single quarter or any short-term optics And we all know this period of elevated and prolonged uncertainty, we had one objective in mind, which was protecting the operating strength, the stability and the long-term health of our company by protecting jobs. and we all know this period of elevated and prolonged uncertainty we had one objective in mind which was protecting the operating strength the stability and the long-term health of our company by protecting jobs And I'm really proud that we've been in a position to restore that. and i'm really proud that we've been in a position to restore that But here's the reality, and I share this with you just to bring you into how I'm thinking about this. When you have a differentiated strategy that you believe in, and it's clearly working, and you've got a world-class team that knows how to execute through all types of cycles, your number one focus is on execution. And so I think now more than ever, you've got customers that are dealing with so much uncertainty. They are looking for partners that can be stable, reliable, and predictable. And when you've got a winning strategy, you've got customers that need you, you're gonna invest in that execution capacity. So which means we're gonna continue to not only attract and hire, but it's in our best interest to retain this talent. So we've seen a lot of widespread layoffs out there in and out of our industry. But here's the reality, and I share this with you just to bring you into how I'm thinking about this. but here's the reality and i share this with you just to bring you into how i'm thinking about this When you have a differentiated strategy that you believe in, and it's clearly working, and you've got a world-class team that knows how to execute through all types of cycles, your number one focus is on execution. when you have a differentiated strategy that you believe in and it's clearly working and you've got a world-class team that knows how to execute through all types of cycles your number one focus is on execution And so I think now more than ever, you've got customers that are dealing with so much uncertainty. and so i think now more than ever you've got customers that are dealing with so much uncertainty They are looking for partners that can be stable, reliable, and predictable. they are looking for partners that can be stable reliable and predictable And when you've got a winning strategy, you've got customers that need you, you're gonna invest in that execution capacity. and when you've got a winning strategy you've got customers that need you you're gonna invest in that execution capacity So which means we're gonna continue to not only attract and hire, but it's in our best interest to retain this talent. so which means we're gonna continue to not only attract and hire but it's in our best interest to retain this talent So we've seen a lot of widespread layoffs out there in and out of our industry. so we've seen a lot of widespread layoffs out there in and out of our industry And I said earlier, we chose a different path, and it was to maintain and preserve these jobs. And I think that making sure that we have that execution capacity, that is what has rewarded our shareholders very well over the last few decades. But let me hand it back to Ben to talk more about the 2026 implication. And I said earlier, we chose a different path, and it was to maintain and preserve these jobs. and i said earlier we chose a different path and it was to maintain and preserve these jobs And I think that making sure that we have that execution capacity, that is what has rewarded our shareholders very well over the last few decades. and i think that making sure that we have that execution capacity that is what has rewarded our shareholders very well over the last few decades But let me hand it back to Ben to talk more about the 2026 implication. but let me hand it back to ben to talk more about the 2026 implication

Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just one comment there, and I'll remind you, back in July, when we gave our guidance, we were operating in an environment of high uncertainty. And Heidi talked about you know, us wanting to have and make sure we preserve that financial flexibility. And so that didn't materialize the way that, you know, we had planned out. And part of having that flexibility and pulling that 401(k) lever is, you know, if it since it didn't play out the way that we had thought throughout the year, it gave us that ability to reinstate that. And even though it was quicker than we had expected, it's great that we were able to do that. Yeah, I mean, just one comment there, and I'll remind you, back in July, when we gave our guidance, we were operating in an environment of high uncertainty. yeah i mean just one comment there and i'll remind you back in july when we gave our guidance we were operating in an environment of high uncertainty And Heidi talked about you know, us wanting to have and make sure we preserve that financial flexibility. and heidi talked about you know us wanting to have and make sure we preserve that financial flexibility And so that didn't materialize the way that, you know, we had planned out. and so that didn't materialize the way that you know we had planned out And part of having that flexibility and pulling that 401(k) lever is, you know, if it since it didn't play out the way that we had thought throughout the year, it gave us that ability to reinstate that. and part of having that flexibility and pulling that 401(k) lever is you know if it since it didn't play out the way that we had thought throughout the year it gave us that ability to reinstate that And even though it was quicker than we had expected, it's great that we were able to do that. and even though it was quicker than we had expected it's great that we were able to do that As we go into 2026, it doesn't mean that, you know, the pressures that we see have alleviated. There are still tariff pressures. It's part of our low single digit raw material guide that we're going to have to contend with this year, and that delayed realization is something that we're going to have to contend with this year. You've seen us on the cost out and pulling, you know, levers for, you know, some of the big needle movers. We have confidence that our teams are going to continue to do that. We see our cross business unit teams working really well together to unlock cost in areas that have been harder to get at in prior years. As we go into 2026, it doesn't mean that, you know, the pressures that we see have alleviated. as we go into 2026 it doesn't mean that you know the pressures that we see have alleviated There are still tariff pressures. there are still tariff pressures It's part of our low single digit raw material guide that we're going to have to contend with this year, and that delayed realization is something that we're going to have to contend with this year. it's part of our low single digit raw material guide that we're going to have to contend with this year and that delayed realization is something that we're going to have to contend with this year You've seen us on the cost out and pulling, you know, levers for, you know, some of the big needle movers. you've seen us on the cost out and pulling you know levers for you know some of the big needle movers We have confidence that our teams are going to continue to do that. we have confidence that our teams are going to continue to do that We see our cross business unit teams working really well together to unlock cost in areas that have been harder to get at in prior years. we see our cross business unit teams working really well together to unlock cost in areas that have been harder to get at in prior years And so our confidence in them being able to do that also helps our decision to make this and get it reinstated, get this behind us, and we're going to find ways to continue to overcome the volume challenges. And so our confidence in them being able to do that also helps our decision to make this and get it reinstated, get this behind us, and we're going to find ways to continue to overcome the volume challenges. and so our confidence in them being able to do that also helps our decision to make this and get it reinstated get this behind us and we're going to find ways to continue to overcome the volume challenges

Speaker 14: Thank you, Garik. Thank you, Garik. thank you garik

Speaker 23: Thank you. Our next question is coming from Chuck Cerankosky from Northcoast Research. Your line is live. Thank you. thank you Our next question is coming from Chuck Cerankosky from Northcoast Research. our next question is coming from chuck cerankosky from northcoast research Your line is live. your line is live

Speaker 5: Good morning, everyone. I want to take a look at the Paint Stores Group and see if there's any insights to be gleaned by how the non-coatings sales are going, especially with the professionals basket when they're in your stores. Good morning, everyone. good morning everyone I want to take a look at the Paint Stores Group and see if there's any insights to be gleaned by how the non-coatings sales are going, especially with the professionals basket when they're in your stores. i want to take a look at the paint stores group and see if there's any insights to be gleaned by how the non-coatings sales are going especially with the professionals basket when they're in your stores

Speaker 12: Chuck, we're going to need a little bit more, on the question, if you don't mind. When you say non-coatings, what specifically are you referring to? Chuck, we're going to need a little bit more, on the question, if you don't mind. chuck we're going to need a little bit more on the question if you don't mind When you say non-coatings, what specifically are you referring to? when you say non-coatings what specifically are you referring to

Speaker 5: I'm thinking about the supplies, brushes, sprayers, things like that, that might indicate now where the pros' head is at and what you folks might be looking at to change in their baskets. I'm thinking about the supplies, brushes, sprayers, things like that, that might indicate now where the pros' head is at and what you folks might be looking at to change in their baskets. i'm thinking about the supplies brushes sprayers things like that that might indicate now where the pros' head is at and what you folks might be looking at to change in their baskets

Speaker 12: That was helpful. Jim's gonna start off here, and then I'll jump in. That was helpful. that was helpful Jim's gonna start off here, and then I'll jump in. jim's gonna start off here and then i'll jump in

Speaker 14: Yeah, Chuck, I was just gonna say, you know, one of the things you may be thinking about is spray equipment sales, and I'd say those have been, you know, flattish, reflecting the environment that we're in. Especially those are, you know, areas we've talked about, new res being under pressure. That'd be an area where you might see some more of that activity. But, Heidi, did you have anything else you wanted to add? Yeah, Chuck, I was just gonna say, you know, one of the things you may be thinking about is spray equipment sales, and I'd say those have been, you know, flattish, reflecting the environment that we're in. yeah chuck i was just gonna say you know one of the things you may be thinking about is spray equipment sales and i'd say those have been you know flattish reflecting the environment that we're in Especially those are, you know, areas we've talked about, new res being under pressure. especially those are you know areas we've talked about new res being under pressure That'd be an area where you might see some more of that activity. that'd be an area where you might see some more of that activity But, Heidi, did you have anything else you wanted to add? but heidi did you have anything else you wanted to add

Speaker 12: Just flat. I mean, it's flattish. Just flat. just flat I mean, it's flattish. i mean it's flattish

Speaker 14: Yeah. Yeah. yeah

Speaker 12: And, Chuck, the way we think about that, and we call it AP applied products, is just obviously can be more of a leading indicator. Spray as an equipment is a really good example, but I would just characterize it as flat, is what we're looking at. And, Chuck, the way we think about that, and we call it AP applied products, is just obviously can be more of a leading indicator. and chuck the way we think about that and we call it ap applied products is just obviously can be more of a leading indicator Spray as an equipment is a really good example, but I would just characterize it as flat, is what we're looking at. spray as an equipment is a really good example but i would just characterize it as flat is what we're looking at

Speaker 14: Thanks, Chuck. Thanks, Chuck. thanks chuck

Speaker 23: Thank you. Our next question is coming from Eric Bosshard from Cleveland Research. Your line is live. Thank you. thank you Our next question is coming from Eric Bosshard from Cleveland Research. our next question is coming from eric bosshard from cleveland research Your line is live. your line is live

Speaker 8: Good morning. On the DIY market, could you just frame a bit of what you're seeing in terms of, perhaps your performance, in terms of volume and what's going on with price mix in Q4 and the expectation in 2026? Good morning. good morning On the DIY market, could you just frame a bit of what you're seeing in terms of, perhaps your performance, in terms of volume and what's going on with price mix in Q4 and the expectation in 2026? on the diy market could you just frame a bit of what you're seeing in terms of perhaps your performance in terms of volume and what's going on with price mix in q4 and the expectation in 2026

Speaker 12: Yeah, Eric, volume continues to be very choppy. Obviously, this is similar to the comments I made earlier. It's. I wish it was a different environment. Having said that, you know, we've got a unique distribution because we service this DIY customer in two areas, one through our paint stores, and we love the margin accretion on that side of the business. That's more of a discerning DIY customer that's looking for a higher level of service. But our partnerships through, you know, a lot of our strategic retail partners are extremely important here. And in this environment, you know, we say, "Don't let a downturn go to waste." Making sure that we are aligned, thinking differently about, you know, what's on the shelf, how we can compete across the street. Yeah, Eric, volume continues to be very choppy. yeah eric volume continues to be very choppy Obviously, this is similar to the comments I made earlier. obviously this is similar to the comments i made earlier It's. it's I wish it was a different environment. i wish it was a different environment Having said that, you know, we've got a unique distribution because we service this DIY customer in two areas, one through our paint stores, and we love the margin accretion on that side of the business. having said that you know we've got a unique distribution because we service this diy customer in two areas one through our paint stores and we love the margin accretion on that side of the business That's more of a discerning DIY customer that's looking for a higher level of service. that's more of a discerning diy customer that's looking for a higher level of service But our partnerships through, you know, a lot of our strategic retail partners are extremely important here. but our partnerships through you know a lot of our strategic retail partners are extremely important here And in this environment, you know, we say, "Don't let a downturn go to waste." Making sure that we are aligned, thinking differently about, you know, what's on the shelf, how we can compete across the street. and in this environment you know we say "don't let a downturn go to waste." making sure that we are aligned thinking differently about you know what's on the shelf how we can compete across the street And so there's a lot of good momentum in terms of planning. We just need the catalyst to come to realization. On price mix, I'll hand it over to Ben. And so there's a lot of good momentum in terms of planning. and so there's a lot of good momentum in terms of planning We just need the catalyst to come to realization. we just need the catalyst to come to realization On price mix, I'll hand it over to Ben. on price mix i'll hand it over to ben

Speaker 3: Yeah, Eric, I mean, you've seen in our stores, I mean, our DIY performance has been a little bit better in the quarter here. If I look at DIY in total, though, a lot of what you see there is maybe the premium gallon push. We talked about that on our third quarter call with some of our channel partners. We're seeing better premium gallons, and so that's obviously a component of the price mix bucket that you see there. And that's a win for our customers because that's, you know, putting them in a position where they can be more efficient for, you know, for the projects that they're doing in their homes. And so that's about what, you know, we're seeing there. Yeah, Eric, I mean, you've seen in our stores, I mean, our DIY performance has been a little bit better in the quarter here. yeah eric i mean you've seen in our stores i mean our diy performance has been a little bit better in the quarter here If I look at DIY in total, though, a lot of what you see there is maybe the premium gallon push. if i look at diy in total though a lot of what you see there is maybe the premium gallon push We talked about that on our third quarter call with some of our channel partners. we talked about that on our third quarter call with some of our channel partners We're seeing better premium gallons, and so that's obviously a component of the price mix bucket that you see there. we're seeing better premium gallons and so that's obviously a component of the price mix bucket that you see there And that's a win for our customers because that's, you know, putting them in a position where they can be more efficient for, you know, for the projects that they're doing in their homes. and that's a win for our customers because that's you know putting them in a position where they can be more efficient for you know for the projects that they're doing in their homes And so that's about what, you know, we're seeing there. and so that's about what you know we're seeing there Obviously, in our stores, again, if we're changing pricing, that's a segment where maybe we can be a little more effective, but that'd be my only comment there. Obviously, in our stores, again, if we're changing pricing, that's a segment where maybe we can be a little more effective, but that'd be my only comment there. obviously in our stores again if we're changing pricing that's a segment where maybe we can be a little more effective but that'd be my only comment there

Speaker 14: Thanks, Eric. Thanks, Eric. thanks eric

Speaker 23: Thank you. Our next question is coming from Laurence Alexander from Jefferies. Your line is live. Thank you. thank you Our next question is coming from Laurence Alexander from Jefferies. our next question is coming from laurence alexander from jefferies Your line is live. your line is live

Speaker 19: Good morning. Could you give an update on what your net price tailwind is expected to be going into 2026, and how that compares to how you think about trend pricing, absent a sharp cyclical improvement? Good morning. good morning Could you give an update on what your net price tailwind is expected to be going into 2026, and how that compares to how you think about trend pricing, absent a sharp cyclical improvement? could you give an update on what your net price tailwind is expected to be going into 2026 and how that compares to how you think about trend pricing absent a sharp cyclical improvement

Speaker 3: Hey, Laurence. Yeah, I mean, we're going to annualize our pricing. We went out January 6th last year, and so by the time, you know, we did our pricing January 1st in stores this year, we've annualized that. There might have been a little bit of pricing that we captured later in the year, but our expectation is, hey, we've lapped last year's price increase. The timing, you know, coincides pretty well with the new price increase. And so, as we've talked about a couple of times here this morning, you know, we'll be managing high effectiveness in that pricing as best we can as we work through 2026. Hey, Laurence. hey laurence Yeah, I mean, we're going to annualize our pricing. yeah i mean we're going to annualize our pricing We went out January 6th last year, and so by the time, you know, we did our pricing January 1st in stores this year, we've annualized that. we went out january 6th last year and so by the time you know we did our pricing january 1st in stores this year we've annualized that There might have been a little bit of pricing that we captured later in the year, but our expectation is, hey, we've lapped last year's price increase. there might have been a little bit of pricing that we captured later in the year but our expectation is hey we've lapped last year's price increase The timing, you know, coincides pretty well with the new price increase. the timing you know coincides pretty well with the new price increase And so, as we've talked about a couple of times here this morning, you know, we'll be managing high effectiveness in that pricing as best we can as we work through 2026. and so as we've talked about a couple of times here this morning you know we'll be managing high effectiveness in that pricing as best we can as we work through 2026

Speaker 12: So maybe just a final comment as it relates to pricing, I think, and the discipline, just to put a bow on this. I think we are in a very unique position. There's a lot of inflection happening across the industry, and I'm very confident in our strategy, our leadership team, and confident in where we're taking this company. And I, I'm excited for what's ahead, and we just—we need the market to help us a little bit, and we're having a very different conversation. So maybe just a final comment as it relates to pricing, I think, and the discipline, just to put a bow on this. so maybe just a final comment as it relates to pricing i think and the discipline just to put a bow on this I think we are in a very unique position. i think we are in a very unique position There's a lot of inflection happening across the industry, and I'm very confident in our strategy, our leadership team, and confident in where we're taking this company. there's a lot of inflection happening across the industry and i'm very confident in our strategy our leadership team and confident in where we're taking this company And I, I'm excited for what's ahead, and we just—we need the market to help us a little bit, and we're having a very different conversation. and i i'm excited for what's ahead and we just—we need the market to help us a little bit and we're having a very different conversation

Speaker 14: I would just add to tie that all up, Lawrence, again, if you look in the slide deck that we put out with some of the guidance, you know, we're talking for the full year in 2026, we've got low single digit positive price mix in all three segments, and that gives you a positive low single digit price mix on a consolidated basis for the full year. Thanks for the question. I would just add to tie that all up, Lawrence, again, if you look in the slide deck that we put out with some of the guidance, you know, we're talking for the full year in 2026, we've got low single digit positive price mix in all three segments, and that gives you a positive low single digit price mix on a consolidated basis for the full year. i would just add to tie that all up lawrence again if you look in the slide deck that we put out with some of the guidance you know we're talking for the full year in 2026 we've got low single digit positive price mix in all three segments and that gives you a positive low single digit price mix on a consolidated basis for the full year Thanks for the question. thanks for the question

Speaker 23: Thank you. That concludes our Q&A session. I will now hand the conference back to Jim Jaye for closing remarks. Please go ahead. Thank you. thank you That concludes our Q&A session. that concludes our q&a session I will now hand the conference back to Jim Jaye for closing remarks. i will now hand the conference back to jim jaye for closing remarks Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 14: Yeah, thank you, Matthew, and thank you, everybody, for joining our call. Thanks to all the employees of Sherwin-Williams for all their continued hard work. Clearly, you heard today we're continuing to operate in a very challenging demand environment, and we expect that to continue well into the year. But as Heidi mentioned, Ben mentioned, we believe the guidance we're giving today, this initial guidance, is realistic, given all the economic assumptions that we laid out in our slide deck. And, you know, quite frankly, should the market be better than we're seeing today, we'd expect to outperform that guidance. So regardless of the environment, you can count on us. Our strategy is clear, which is providing those differentiated solutions for our customers. I will close with a save-the-date request for everybody for our 2026 financial community presentation. Yeah, thank you, Matthew, and thank you, everybody, for joining our call. yeah thank you matthew and thank you everybody for joining our call Thanks to all the employees of Sherwin-Williams for all their continued hard work. thanks to all the employees of sherwin-williams for all their continued hard work Clearly, you heard today we're continuing to operate in a very challenging demand environment, and we expect that to continue well into the year. clearly you heard today we're continuing to operate in a very challenging demand environment and we expect that to continue well into the year But as Heidi mentioned, Ben mentioned, we believe the guidance we're giving today, this initial guidance, is realistic, given all the economic assumptions that we laid out in our slide deck. but as heidi mentioned ben mentioned we believe the guidance we're giving today this initial guidance is realistic given all the economic assumptions that we laid out in our slide deck And, you know, quite frankly, should the market be better than we're seeing today, we'd expect to outperform that guidance. and you know quite frankly should the market be better than we're seeing today we'd expect to outperform that guidance So regardless of the environment, you can count on us. so regardless of the environment you can count on us Our strategy is clear, which is providing those differentiated solutions for our customers. our strategy is clear which is providing those differentiated solutions for our customers I will close with a save-the-date request for everybody for our 2026 financial community presentation. i will close with a save-the-date request for everybody for our 2026 financial community presentation It's gonna be in Cleveland this year on Thursday, September 24th, and it will include the opportunity for you to see our new global headquarters and our new global technology center. So we're excited for all of you to, to experience this, this amazing investment that we've made for our customers and our people. That date, again, is September 24th, and we'll have more details on that later in the year. As always, we'll be available for your follow-ups here, and thanks again for your interest in Sherwin. Have a great day. It's gonna be in Cleveland this year on Thursday, September 24th, and it will include the opportunity for you to see our new global headquarters and our new global technology center. it's gonna be in cleveland this year on thursday september 24th and it will include the opportunity for you to see our new global headquarters and our new global technology center So we're excited for all of you to, to experience this, this amazing investment that we've made for our customers and our people. so we're excited for all of you to to experience this this amazing investment that we've made for our customers and our people That date, again, is September 24th, and we'll have more details on that later in the year. that date again is september 24th and we'll have more details on that later in the year As always, we'll be available for your follow-ups here, and thanks again for your interest in Sherwin. as always we'll be available for your follow-ups here and thanks again for your interest in sherwin Have a great day. have a great day

Speaker 23: Thank you. Everyone, this concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation. Thank you. thank you Everyone, this concludes today's event. everyone this concludes today's event You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. you may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day Thank you for your participation. thank you for your participation