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Randstad N.V. Call Transcript 2026

Apr 22, 2026

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Randstad N.V.

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Hello, and welcome to the Randstad Q1 2026 results conference call and audio webcast. For the first part of the call, the participants will be in listen-only mode. Afterwards, there will be a question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question, please press pound key five on your telephone keypad. Please note that you are limited to one question per round and one follow-up question. I will now hand the word over to Sander van 't Noordende, CEO. Mr. van 't Noordende, please go ahead. Thank you very much, Bart Jan, for that kind introduction, and good morning, everybody. I'm here with Jorge and our investor relations team to share our Q1 2026 results. Let me first say I'm proud of our team's continued execution of our Partner for Talent strategy, which is delivering a strong foundation for our growth ambitions. As a result, our growth has broadened with 63% of Randstad now in growth, up from 50% in Q4, which equates to 0.4% growth for the quarter. Overall volume in contingent work was resilient, with strong momentum in the U.S. and Southern Europe, especially, of course, in our Randstad Operational business. We see further stabilization in industrial markets in Northwest Europe, while the permanent and professional markets remain challenging. APAC remains robust. Together with strong adaptability, this has resulted in a solid performance with revenues of EUR 5.5 billion and an EBITDA of EUR 146 million, representing a 2.7% margin. Volume trends in early April have been encouraging, and so far, we have seen very limited impact from the geopolitical situation in the Middle East. As you would expect, we are monitoring the situation vigilantly and are in constant dialogue with our clients to understand the impact they are noticing on their business. However, the current trajectory of our business gives us confidence for the months ahead. As we move further into 2026, we continue to progress well on our Partner for Talent strategy. Our growth through specialization is fueled by the 10 by 10 by 10 initiative. 10 markets with each 10 opportunities of 10 million or more. Jesus and the team are doing a fantastic job here and secured over EUR 600 million of new wins in Q1. In Operational, we saw an uptick of client activity across our industrial segments, particularly in manufacturing, including skilled trades in markets such as Germany and Italy. We saw strong growth in the logistics sector, with increased hiring forecast in key markets such as the U.S., France, and the Netherlands. In Professional, we saw momentum improving in engineering in the U.S., Italy, and Japan, and we are growing in Healthcare, primarily driven by the Netherlands and Italy. After a slow January in our enterprise business, we expect trends to sequentially improve from here as we secured a number of new clients this quarter across life sciences, semiconductors, and energy. The health of our pipeline also bodes well for the rest of the year. We celebrated the rollout of our digital marketplace in the U.K., and once again, talent loves it. Within two hours, we had 77% of the targeted talent on the app. We are now live in nine markets. In March alone, we managed close to 600,000 self-service shifts, with around 240,000 monthly active users. We also went live with the front and mid-office of our Randstad Talent Platform in Italy, with our digital marketplace to follow later this year. On AI, 80% of our staff are now AI trained. Working smarter and more efficiently is essential to continue driving down indirect costs as a percentage of revenue. As we enter 2026, I'm proud of our teams as our Partner for Talent strategy and commercial success provides a strong foundation for our growth ambitions. Because I know it's on your minds, let me say a few words about the role of AI in the labor market. Above all, we are AI optimists. In the context of an aging population and persistent labor mismatches, we view AI as a critical enabler for a very welcome productivity boost. There are a few points I'd like to make here. First, studies show that the base case for the impact of AI is a job loss of 6%-7% over the next five to 10 years, with a particular focus on clerical roles, customer service, marketing and design, and software development, where our exposure as Randstad is currently limited. It looks like AI is more about task and team augmentation than outright job replacement, so roles will change over time, and we at Randstad call this the great adaptation of the workforce. Finally, the phenomenon of jobs disappearing and new jobs emerging is of all ages. Of the jobs we cater for today, around 60%-70% did not exist 65 years ago when we started Randstad. Our first temps were mostly executive assistants, which today are a fraction of our business. What does this all mean for Randstad? First of all, Randstad Operational and Healthcare are 2/3 of our business today. These are typically jobs that are human-centric and minimally impacted by AI. Think about maintenance technicians, welders and fabricators, HVAC specialists, and of course, nurses and care workers. Secondly, our strategy is to ensure that we are highly relevant where the future jobs are. That's why we have our four specializations, each with its own growth segments, such as skilled trade, logistics, engineering, healthcare. As the Canadians say, we are skating where the puck is going to be. In summary, we're confident by taking the right actions per our Partner for Talent strategy, we can navigate and benefit from the impact of AI on the labor market over the next five to 10 years. I'm going to now hand over to Jorge to say a bit more about our financial results. Jorge? Thank you, Sander, and good morning, everyone. Let me start by saying that overall, we are happy to see that this quarter mostly came in line with our expectations. The trends are consistent, they are more stable, and the changes we are doing are also more structural. We saw sequential improvement in growth rates across most of our markets, and we returned to organic revenue growth. This growth is led by our Operational business, as Sander just highlighted, which grew 3% globally, including a strong 8% in U.S., where our digital marketplace is driving tangible market share gains. It's also positive to see manufacturing PMIs above 50 in most of our markets for the first time in many quarters. While remaining vigilant on geopolitics, we do balance momentum with strict discipline and investments in our roadmap, not only to protect the bottom line, but also in growth to ensure we have the operational gearing ready for the coming quarters. Before we move on to the section in the markets, please note, a small note, we have simplified the reporting structure by removing the regional sub-segments in Europe. Where applicable, the comparative figures are presented to align with this new structure. Let's dive in, and let's start with North America on page nine. In North America, we continued to build throughout the quarter, with strong exit rates in our industrial sectors. U.S. operational grew 8%, significantly outpacing the market, and its double-digit profit growth validates our new model of central delivery and a digital marketplace. Professional is down 8%, but improving sequentially, with perm returning now to growth. Enterprise started slow, as mentioned already at the end of Q4, but ended with stronger exit rates, driven by major new wins and a solid pipeline. Digital faced muted Q1 demand, but adapted well. Canada mirrors the U.S., with strong operational growth offsetting a slower enterprise start. Overall, North American EBITDA margin was 3% year-over-year, delivering a 78% recovery ratio. Now, moving on to the major European markets on slide 10. In Europe, momentum is improving across our major markets, though the split between a strong south and a slower north still remains. In the Netherlands, organic revenue returned to growth, driven by continued good performance in Healthcare and solid positioning with large logistics and e-commerce clients. We spent Q1 implementing the new CLA together with our clients, and while complex and not finished yet, we progress well and expect this to be concluded in the next few weeks. Overall profitability came in at 4.4%. In Germany, we are seeing early signs of recovery, down just 4%, driven by improving PMIs. Industrial pockets are returning to growth, and even automotive, while still declining, it is clearly bottoming out. Public infrastructure spending has yet to materialize. In Germany, the transformation we started last year is paying off as the business pushes hard to return to growth at a more sustainable level of profitability. Now in Belgium, we still declined 6%, with operation at -4%. The weakness in the market is mostly around permanent hiring and office jobs. Now moving on to France, it remains still a two-speed market. On one side, our in-house and larger client portfolio is up 11%. On the other side, SME and still perm segments are currently lagging the market. Professionals here also declined 13% year-over-year, with volumes weighed down by the recent healthcare legislation. Overall profitability came in at 3.9%. Italy. In Italy, growth continued to accelerate on the back of a successful Olympics campaign, with Operational up 9% and Professionals also growing now at 6% as our recent investments over 2025 pay off. Profitability came in at 5.1%, impacted this quarter by an Olympics brand awareness campaign and strategic investments for the platform. Iberia had a fantastic quarter, +9%, led by Spain, north of 10%, where we are firing on all cylinders, and we continue to invest in further growth, both in people and capabilities. Let's now move on to the international market slide on slide 11. International markets are a bit of a mixed bag, as you can see. Let me quickly unpack in more detail. In Europe, we celebrated the go live of our RDMP in the U.K., like Sander mentioned, and it's great to see our first talents using the platform over the last two, three weeks. Poland is still growing at 2%. Switzerland 3%, continue to grow, and offsetting still the subdued Nordics, still at -11%. In LatAm, we continue to see good momentum, particularly in Brazil. In Asia Pacific, Japan continued its solid growth at +5%, and we continue here to invest to capture structural opportunities, particularly in the digital area and in Tokyo. Australia and New Zealand declined -4%, with some signs now of stabilization. India growth accelerated to 16% as we continued to invest in growth segments. Overall, the EBITDA margin for the region came in 3.6%, reflecting growth investments. That concludes the performance of our key geographies. Let me now walk you through our combined financial performance on slide 13. Looking at the revenue mix, we see the trends of the last few quarters continuing. Operational sees momentum now accelerating and is now growing 3%. Remember, it was flat on Q4. Professional also improved quarter-over-quarter due to strong demand in healthcare, particularly in the Netherlands and Italy, engineering in U.S. and Japan. Digital and Enterprise started the year slowly and tougher comps certainly did not help. Pipeline deal wins and exit rates for Enterprise look better as we enter into Q2. Now, our gross profit and OpEx were well aligned, but we will talk more about that particularly later. Zooming in into EBITDA. EBITDA margin was 2.7%. Underlying EBITDA was EUR 146 million, with an adverse FX effects impact this quarter of EUR 6 million, which will start leveling off from here. Integration costs and one-offs this quarter amounted to EUR 23 million, and they were mostly related to basically the Netherlands or Northern and Western Europe as we continue to drive structural change across our organization. Net finance costs are just the regular interest payments, albeit lower, reflecting the lower net debt coming down. The effective tax rate for the first three months was 31%. We expect the 2026 ETR towards the higher end of 29%-31% range. This all led to an adjusted net income of EUR 91 million for the quarter. With that, let's indeed now deep dive into the gross margin slides on slide 14. A few things about the margin. Gross margin was down 80 basis points to 18.5%. Within that, our temp margin is down 60 basis points and primarily with points we had highlighted already in the previous quarter. On one hand, operational remains more resilient, if not even now in growth versus professional and digital specializations. Two, we continue to see geographical divergence with Northern Europe below group average and Southern Europe continuing to do better. The adverse FX impact following, let's say, Liberation Day, it still plays a role. Last but not the least, as we mentioned in Q4, there were incidentals between Q4 and Q1 last year, which impacts a little bit the comparisons. Perm contribution, which was still down 20 basis points, is now somewhat stable at low level as key European perm markets still remain very challenging. In HRS and other, remember here we include RPO, outplacement, and a lot of other fee businesses, MSP, is still flat. This is the market at the moment and where the majority of the gross margin pressure is simply a reflection of the continued growth divergence across our portfolio. Albeit most of this pressure starts to ease as we progress through the quarters ahead. Let me bring you now into more details on slide 15 on our OpEx bridge. Underlying operating expenses were EUR 873 million, moving in lockstep with gross profit, as we've been doing in the previous quarters. Despite inflationary pressures, we lowered costs, excuse me, OpEx quarter-over-quarter, and we are building clear operational leverage. We're achieving this through delivery excellence, growing volumes in key markets, and delivering through the most productive talent service models without adding as much headcount. In fact, the correlation between volume and FTE is now at a six-year low. We also continue to reduce indirect costs as a percentage of revenue through scale and technology. Overall, I think the important point about our OpEx is that the change in the past three years proved to be structural, with again, the last four quarters ICR hitting close to 70% at 68%. What this means is that we are improving our ability to offset gross profit declines by reducing OpEx or to convert gross profit into EBITDA as growth returns. With that in mind, let's now move on to slide 16, which contains our cash flow and balance sheet remarks. First, balance sheet. Our underlying free cash flow for the quarter stood at -EUR 98 million. We typically have the most seasonal negative working capital movements in this quarter, such as VAT, wage taxes, commissions, and prepayments. In addition, in particular in Q1 this quarter, we had a delay in invoicing at the beginning of the quarter associated with the Netherlands following the implementation of the new regulatory framework of about EUR 40 million-EUR 50 million. This will obviously normalize now into Q2, and we expect the same cash trajectory for the full-year. DSO came in at 57.4 days, up 0.7 days sequentially, and reflecting exactly the mix and the delay in invoicing. Net debt decreased EUR 131 million year-over-year, and our leverage ratio stands now at 1.5. That brings me to the outlook on slide 17. Looking at the current momentum, we see the positive volume trends in February and March continuing to April, and that gives us confidence for the months ahead. Now remember, Sander highlighted we have seen no direct impact from the Middle East, but we remain vigilant. Gross margin in Q2 is expected to be slightly down sequentially, reflecting the normal seasonal step-up into higher-volume clients, but also the lowest working day quarter of the year. We continue to still see as we enter ongoing reluctance in hiring or permanent hiring by clients and talents. On the other hand, operating expenses are expected to increase slightly quarter-over-quarter, but always, again, with strict operational discipline. To summarize, by sustaining our growth momentum, continuing to drive productivity from how we run our business, and structurally reducing the cost to support it, we are inherently building operational leverage into Randstad. That concludes our prepared remarks, and we look forward now to taking your questions. Ladies and gentlemen, we are now ready to take your questions. If you wish to ask a question, please press pound key five on your telephone keypad. We kindly Rémind you that you are limited to one question per round and one follow-up. If you wish to withdraw your question, please press pound key six on your telephone keypad. The first question comes from Andy Grobler from BNP Paribas. Andy, go ahead. Well, hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just the first one on the Netherlands, which was much stronger than it had been. You talked about Zorgwerk impacting that, but I guess Zorgwerk is relatively small. Can you just talk through the math of what has changed and how much of that is due to Zorgwerk? How much of it is the rest of the business, please? One follow-up. I'll go with that one first. I'll follow up later. Okay. Well, a good question, Andy. I'm going to first say that I think the team in the Netherlands has done an outstanding job in engaging with the clients and managing this through this whole situation. That's phenomenal. We said it was manageable, and it turned out to be manageable. I think that's very good. I'm going to ask Jorge to say a few more words about the economics of all this. Yeah. I would say, Andy, at the very high level, probably the, let's say, the step up from Q4 into Q1 in this particular, in the Netherlands, I'd expect about half of it being connected to the good performance of Zorgwerk, their healthcare. It's not a small company, to be clear. That is also due to, of course, that now this makes part of our organic growth rate. That's as we annualize basically the acquisition of it. The remaining 50% has to do with strong performance in commerce and logistics and in general legislation as well, now including the support into Q1. Follow-up question, Andy? Just on a slightly different topic. Given the rate environment, what are your expectations for finance costs through the remainder of the year, please? Excuse me. Finance costs. Interest. Yeah. To basically continue down. We can see we start the year with already a lower FIFO into the year, and we continue to expect trending net debt down year-over-year, especially towards the second half of the year, as we always have the positive sides of operating working capital. Q1 number is, we can expect similar levels through the remainder of the year? Yes, we can expect similar numbers throughout the remainder of the year. Okay, great. Thank you. The next question comes from Rémi Grenu from Morgan Stanley. Rémi, go ahead. Morning, gentlemen. Yeah, my question would be on the momentum of activity. You're flagging that April was in line with March, and I guess with the -2.4% in January and your organic growth through the quarter, it probably means that the current run rate is north of 1% organic growth in the latter part in terms of exit rate and April. If you could confirm that. Trying to think about how to think about the better momentum that you've experienced in the business and the potential negative from the environment. I'm trying to understand what the base case you're working on internally. Would it be like continued improvement in temp and maybe a little bit of weakness in permanent recruitment? Just a discussion around that setup. Thanks, Rémi. First of all, let me talk about the momentum. I think probably the most important comment is what Sander mentioned in the beginning. The step-up is broader, so it's across, I think practically all markets have shown a better momentum, if not perhaps Belgium being the exception. The rest, all our markets have stepped up. That sustains our belief. Okay, we made a step up. Two, you also see PMIs having improved significantly throughout, well, at least having been positive in most markets during Q1. It is, let's say, something that we look as confidence. Okay, what is at the basis of this, at the core of it? If I look in the quarter, indeed, you will remember when we talked about January, our exit rate was approximately -0.4 in January. We had a step up in February, but I think I'll prefer, given the amount of working days and the holidays between the two months, then you should take step, let's say, Feb and March together, and that will probably bring you, let's say, between 0.5%-1% as an exit rate. Remember we say temp productivities are in line. We are continuing to take that into Q2. There are adverse comps effects, but we also had them in Q1. For now, basically, we just take it as it comes, but it gives us confidence into Q2. Okay, just to follow up the discussion on temp versus perm for the outlook. We've heard some of your competitors being a little bit more cautious on permanent recruitment for the next few months. Is it something that you're? Yeah You're looking at as well? Any insight from discussion with clients from that side? Rémi, what you probably have at the moment, if you look at the actual absolute amounts invoice, they are quite stable. What you see is the critical roles are being replaced. Yeah. When clients will have more confidence and talents to start changing jobs or organizing work with more permanent jobs, we don't know. We also have in the U.S. some green shoots in terms of permanent recruitment, perm. EU is still very weak. Now, what I would argue is it's also a context where typically uncertainty will play out for any seasonal work to be primarily absorbed now by more temp or flexible solutions. That's what we see at the moment. Understood. Thank you very much. The next question comes from Rory McKenzie from UBS. Rory, go ahead. Good morning, all. It's Rory here. I wanted to ask about the digital marketplace, which you said did 1.45 million shifts in Q1. I just want to ask a lot more about the context for that number. How many shifts did your business deliver in total in the quarter? And also just what kinds of shifts are shifting to this marketplace? Is it more short term one-off covers or are customers using the DMP to change how they staff entire businesses? And also, could you talk about, is it changing your impact on the market in terms of new clients, or is this about wallet share? Thank you. Yeah. Very good questions, Rory. Let me start from the top. Obviously, this is all about making sure that Randstad supplies or delivers what we call immediate talent availability. I always say to the teams, we need to have the talent already there before the client even knows they need it. That's one. You can only do that with digital technologies. That means that in our operational business, and our biggest example is, of course, in the U.S. in Operational. We also have marketplaces in Healthcare, in France, in the Netherlands, in Australia. In Operational, we are starting or have started in a number of countries. Think Canada, also Australia, Japan. This is becoming a widespread phenomenon and an integral part of our strategy as Randstad. Why do clients like this? Well, clients like this because they get what they need. The fulfillment is higher. It's easy to do business with. In some clients, we are directly connected to their operational system. The shifts that they cannot fill, they put immediately onto the marketplace. Those shifts are filled within minutes or hours. Generally, 50%-60% of the shifts is filled within one hour, which gives the client confidence that the people will show up. Another benefit for the client is because people have selected those shifts themselves, the no-show rates have basically gone in half, so have reduced by 50%. There's all goodness in there for the client. For the talent, there's also goodness in there because talent can now decide when and where they work is one. They can do that at the moment as they like, and that's typically in the evening. They don't have to call one of our consultants to talk to that. They can decide by themselves. Again, the no-show rates increase. This is clear benefits for clients and talents. All those benefits also add up to benefits for Randstad. Higher fill rate is more business. No-shows reduced is more business. Fill rate up is happier clients. Fill rate up is happier talent. Of course, efficiency, productivity because there is no human intervention. The client types in their own shift. Talent selects their own shift. That means zero marginal cost if there's more demand, meaning ramp up is a lot easier because we have the talent there. The client decides that they need 10 or 20 people more. The next day, we put the shifts on the marketplace. It all works. I'm absolutely convinced that our growth rate in U.S. Operational this quarter is driven in part by the fact that we have a digital marketplace. Because when the market ramps up, you need to be quick. If you have the talent already there, then it's just a matter of filling shifts through the digital marketplace. It's all good. In terms of what does this mean for our business, so we have 15% of our business now on digital marketplaces, roughly EUR 4 billion. You have to think about EUR 3 billion of that is Operational, and EUR 1 billion of that is in our Professional space in Randstad Digital in North America. This year is going to be a year of rollout, so where we start in a number of new markets, I mentioned a few of them already, so that next year we can scale. By the end of the year, we're looking at 22% of our business through digital marketplaces. Last but not least, the excitement that this is creating within Randstad is quite phenomenal because our people see that they are differentiated in the marketplace. We have more and more clients saying, "We want to do business with Randstad because you have the digital marketplace that's easy for us," but it also means it is access to talent because talent lives in the digital world, not in a branch, or somewhere else. It's exciting for our people because we have something new, we have something exciting, we're differentiated, and it works very well. You can guess I'm really excited about all of this and cannot go fast enough as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. No, thanks for that. That's lots of detail. Thank you. Thanks very much. I just want to follow up if I can. It's maybe to link this DMP to what you talked about on slide eight, where you talked about AI in the world of work at a broad level, but maybe not about how AI could reshape the channel of connecting labor demand and supply. Do you think, and do you hear that clients are engaging with maybe lots of different digital marketplaces for types of labor or channels? And what do you think happens to the kind of landscape of that labor supply as a result? Yeah, that's a good question. If you add up, Rory, the market share of all digital native companies combined in our space, the numbers that I've seen, they have a combined market share of around 5%, and that's the likes of Professional marketplaces, Freelance marketplaces, and let's say Operational marketplaces for your waiter or for your nurse. The digital phenomenon in our industry is still relatively small. That means there's a massive opportunity for us at Randstad to scale and to take share over time, because not all players will be able to implement a digital marketplace at the scale that we can. First of all, because it's hard work, but secondly, you need the expertise, but secondly, it's also big investments, and we are fortunate enough to have a strong balance sheet so we can afford those investments. It's going to be an interesting time in terms of digitizing the industry. Great. Thanks again. The next question comes from Simon Lechipre from Jefferies. Simon, go ahead. Simon? Simon? Let's take the next one, Bart-Jan. Good morning. Can you hear me? Yeah. Okay. Sorry, Simon. We were looking for you, but we couldn't hear you. Sorry. Yeah. Good morning. First question on the gross margin for Temp. I was a bit surprised to see the performance getting incrementally worse despite the better top line. Can you give us a bit more color on the different moving parts and what does that mean about the drivers of this better top line? Thank you. Thank you, Simon. I think, we had spent some time on Q4. We had already highlighted that we should look basically at the two quarters, Q4 and Q1 together. We actually think, let's say gross margin came in well, right in the middle of our expectations, and Temp margin as well. I would say in Q4, we had 40 basis points. If you remember in Q1, we now have 60 basis points. We said it was impacted by incidental items last year between Q4 2024 and Q1 2025. I'll take the underlying run between both, about approximately 40 basis points. The good thing is it came within our expectations, and we now see it basically seeing stabilizing and many of those movements starting to annualize as we go into the later quarters of the year. Okay. A follow-up on Netherlands, and obviously quite a step-up in top line, but it seemed like the drop-through was quite weak with margin declining year-on-year. Can you give us the details behind this performance, please? Yeah. If you look at the 4.4%, that is probably quite the run rate also comparing to the last quarters. I just thought as well that we had last year incidentals that were particularly in the Netherlands associated with sickness and how basically we started normalizing for higher sickness rates over the last two to three years. I think if we take that into account, I think things are pretty stable in the Netherlands and definitely even I would argue versus Q4 it's slightly up. Yeah. Thank you. The next question comes from Simon van Oppen. Simon, go ahead. Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my question. Could you give us a little bit more color on your working capital in Q1? We saw free cash flow was a -EUR 100 million versus EUR 60 million last year end we understand that H1 is usually seasonally light in terms of cash inflow, and that staffing companies tend to absorb working capital as they grow. We noticed that DSO increased year-on-year to 57.4 days versus 55 days last year, which is quite a step-up, especially since one might assume you're dealing with broadly similar country and mix effects as peers who seem to manage to bring DSO down while growing faster. Any thoughts on what's behind the difference would be helpful. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, Simon. First of all, indeed, the fact that it's negative, I think it's been like 2018, 2019, to probably 2024. The Q1 is always a quarter heavily impacted by working capital, typical investments. That has to do, as I mentioned earlier on, with all wage taxes, payments, VAT, but also commissions, bonus payouts, and even especially as we have a lot of software licenses, prepayment of a lot of licenses. That is the normal, let's say, impact. What we did have this year is we had a higher, let's say, a delay on invoicing in the Netherlands. That, especially compared to last year, takes an impact. In January, we were late by approximately EUR 40 million-EUR 50 million in invoicing, and that spills over into next quarter. That's to do with implementation here in the Netherlands of the new CLA legislation. That is solved, so basically to normalize now as we go into the year. If you ask compared to last year as well, you will remember we had a quite, let's say, low free cash flow generation in Q4 2024. That came primarily because the end of the year had finished in the weekend. We got a lot of, let's say, payments that were late paid into the first days of January last year. That plays a little bit the comparison versus last year. I think in terms of trajectory for cash, we remain unchanged throughout the year. Now, comparing to our competitors, look, DSO is not an established metric, so everyone uses their own definition. At the same time, I think what we do see is, of course, our divergence in mix is quite significant. Yeah, if we have Italy and Spain outgrowing and growing more than the market, that will play a role in our DSO. We see our overdues continuing to decrease. We see credit losses even at historical lows. To be honest, I'm quite confident on the DSO, on the cash trajectory. Okay. Thank you very much. That's helpful. The next question comes from Marc Zwartsenburg from ING. Marc, go ahead. Yeah. Good morning, Sander. Good morning, Jorge. I would like to ask a question about the regional margins. A couple of regions. First of all, the Netherlands, you just explained a bit that there is a bit of normalization with sickness rates and that the margin is a bit lower. Yeah, on the other hand, we also have the new regulation in place with better pricing, and we have software doing really well. Maybe a few thoughts on how we should look at the margin going forward for the Netherlands. If I look then to region North America, with also weaker Enterprise and the benefits from the digital marketplace, should we expect at some point that you will see quite some positive operational leverage in North America? Yeah. Two other regions, France and Italy, they're growing very fast, but we don't see a drop through. Can you maybe explain a bit why that is? Yeah. First of all. For those four regions, please. Yeah. If I had a short answer, good to speak to you, Marc. If I had a short answer, I'll say yes, so it will be the short one. What I mean by this is, clearly, we don't optimize for a quarter. There were a few timing events this quarter. Now, as we go from the lowest seasonal quarter of the year into the highest seasonal quarters, Q2, Q3, it's very clear. Countries where we are growing, we're going to deliver operational gearing. That's basically what we can see happening from both, let's say, productivity that Sander alluded to before, plus everything else we've been doing in reducing structural costs. I'm quite confident, let's say, that we're going to be delivering gearing in the countries where we have growth. On the ones where we're not, we're working hard to basically keep on improving, making them more agile, more resilient, and making sure that they may also make a step up. From that perspective is the short answer. In the Netherlands, I want to be a little bit clear. The regulation, from a gross margin perspective, it might be dilutive as well. I wouldn't call it. There is a lot of additional costs that have to be passed to client. That's the end impact in our margin. Let's say, the first pressure will be a dilutive pressure in margin. Now, we've also been adjusting our cost base in the Netherlands. You saw the one-offs this quarter, primarily related to the Netherlands. We are also starting to see about how to basically step up in profitability. For now, I would say this level of profit is going 4%-5%. Yeah. In Italy and in Spain, where you're growing so fast. Yeah. Good point. We don't see really operational leverage there. Yeah. I also watch this space. Again, I told you there was some timing issues this quarter. In Italy in particular, we've been investing. We had an important marketing campaign this quarter, in concreto in Q1, associated with the Olympics. We also have been investing in our, let's say, the rollout of our platform that Sander just has been describing. In Spain, we can see we continue to add that count year-over-year. We've been investing, and we continue to grow ahead of markets. I'm quite confident these countries will be showing operational gearing throughout the year. Right. That's very clear. U.S., is there any benefits at some point that we should see? Yeah. The U.S.- marketplace? The U.S., I think the marketplace has some investments, but as we progress into Q2, the same. Partially, there was an impact on Enterprise. We started the year somewhat subdued. Again, Sander talked about pipeline, we talked about client implementations. All in all, if I look ahead, it's about also showing operational gearing. Okay. All right. That's it. Thank you very much. Cheers. The next- Thanks. The next question comes from James Rowland Clark from Barclays. James, go ahead. Hi. Thank you. Two questions, please. On the marketplace that you were just discussing, do you think that's resulting in any new client conversations at this point, or simply just better client conversations, more engagement? And then also on a similar topic, can you provide any color as to the profit line benefit from the marketplace at this point in Q1, maybe on an annualized basis, if possible? And then my second area of questions is just on the gross margin that you sort of suggested should ease through the year. I'm just curious as to how you think that plays out, because it looks like the lower margin regions in the temp business are set to continue to outperform the higher margin regions. So just interested in your thoughts there and what you need to see in order for that mix effect to ease substantially. Thank you. Thank you very much, James. On the marketplaces, that's absolutely driving new client conversations. In fact, I'm personally out there with Mark and Jen and our commercial team in North America to have those client conversations with some of the big logistics companies, some of the big service companies in catering, et cetera. They all are interested in hearing about what we call the digital talent supply chain. Because these clients generally are very much into digitization of their business, of their logistics, of their procurement, of their sales to clients. The talent supply chain is sort of somewhat behind in terms of digitization, and that's what we offer. That means that we talked about it, higher fulfillment, but also a lot more transparency, compliance, and I would say analytics and optimization opportunities in that workforce. Yes, benefits at a high level, and I'll ask Jorge to say a bit more detail. Higher productivity, because we have more employees working per FTE in Randstad. That's definitely one of the major benefits. The other benefit is higher fulfillment, because higher fulfillment sooner means more business tomorrow. That's pretty much how that works. I think overall it's hard to tell at this particular point in time. I will tell you that it is a work in progress, and the team here is working hard on getting more insights into that because we want to start sketching the picture of the new Randstad, including the economics over the next couple of quarters. Yeah. James, just putting some numbers to it. You see our fill rate has been, let's say, increasing 1%. This makes a difference in revenue, so it sustains more revenue growth. Our eW4FT, I talked about it at the beginning on my opening, but they are probably now up 6%-7% year-over-year. We're now starting to pre-validate a lot of the set of talent to talent centers, meaning when our talent advisors need talent, they are faster with clients. There's one point, Sander, I would like to highlight, if you actually spend time with the teams, redeployment. Because the beauty of let's say if you are in the Randstad family and you choose your next shift or next appointment, your next job, then a lot of the redeployment becomes easier and we have less setup costs in making a set of transition from job to job, which also enables clients to plan better and organize themselves better. Overall, supportive, especially now as we move into the more seasonally rich quarters. Let me break down a little bit because I think it's connected to the question of Simon, your second question, so on the margin. If I look ahead, we finished Q1, we just talked about it, with a Temp margin down approximately 60 basis points or delta 80. If we look ahead, we're probably looking more, as we can see, 50 basis points year-over-year in Q2. That will mean still 30 basis points-40 basis points down in Q2 now. Year-over-year. Remember, it is a seasonal quarter, so clearly more volume clients trading. It's also a smaller quarter in terms of working days. If I compare it to Q1, where I would say it's probably about 45 basis points +15 FX, the other impact here is we start annualizing FX. This should now start stabilizing at 30 basis points-40 basis points. We still expect 10 basis points- from HRS. The volume in RPO is still weak. Not strangely, if you look at what's happening in PERM, though, we are counting on some new clients being activated as well, so to be seen. PERM remains, for now we have 10 basis points, but a bit of the wild card in the equation. Overall, let's say from the 80 today, we're now looking at 50. As we continue throughout the year, what is also obviously some of the bigger shifts we talked about, geographic shifts, client shifts, this is basically start annualizing. Basically start reducing throughout the year. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thank you. Good question, James. Our next question comes from Virginia Montorsi from Bank of America. Virginia, go ahead. Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Just a quick one. Is there anything worth flagging in the quarter that has either surprised you or performed in a way that you didn't expect that you think it's worth keeping in mind, or did everything kind of play out according to your expectations, if we think about beginning of the year to where we are now? Thank you. Yeah. I'm thinking deeply, Virginia. It's a good question, but I'm afraid the answer is no. Let's say we said there was going to be a step up in the quarter in last call. That's what's happened. Of course, you have always a put and a take here and there, but nothing major to report here. Yeah. Agreed. Nothing. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you, Virginia, and welcome. Just as a reminder, if you want to ask a question, press pound key five on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from Konrad Zomer from ABN AMRO - ODDO BHF. Konrad, go ahead. Hi, good morning. A question on your productivity. You've made good progress over the last few quarters and you're on the verge of actually capturing some operating leverage again. How much revenue growth do you think you could potentially achieve in the second half of this year if you were to decide to keep your headcount stable? Is that 1% or 2% or maybe 5%, particularly given what you are doing with AI and your digital marketplace? Yeah. Konrad, good to speak to you. I'll say, first of all, second half of the year, you know the six-week rule. First and foremost, I think we feel confident with the capacity we have now to support already the seasonal next big quarter, which is Q2. We don't expect FT investments to cope with that, and even in terms of investments that we make are more surgical about growth segments where we say we are clearly missing out opportunity if we don't invest in. Looking into Q2, we're quite comfortable in terms of capacity. Now, Q3 and Q4 typically hang around the level. It depends. If growth really accelerates, we might need to have a look at it. Now, what I am basically been saying for a few quarters is if I look at where we are ahead, we're deploying our strategy. Both, let's say, on the ability to structurally quarter-after-quarter, adding up another quarter of recovery ratio. Cumulatively always four quarters, close to 60%-70%. That plays out in decline, but I also clearly see it playing out in scalability and growth. Basically, I'm counting on now much more scalability and gearing as we come back to growth. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Mr. van't Noordende for any closing remarks. Mr. van't Noordende, go ahead. Thank you, Bart Jan, and thank you all for joining the call today. As we wrap up the call, our people are doing a fantastic job day in, day out, and I would like to thank our more than 600,000 talent and Randstad team members for their hard work as they are truly the best team in the industry. Thank you.

Speaker 6: Hello, and welcome to the Randstad Q1 2026 results conference call and audio webcast. For the first part of the call, the participants will be in listen-only mode. Afterwards, there will be a question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question, please press pound key five on your telephone keypad. Please note that you are limited to one question per round and one follow-up question. I will now hand the word over to Sander van 't Noordende, CEO. Mr. van 't Noordende, please go ahead. Hello, and welcome to the Randstad Q1 2026 results conference call and audio webcast. hello and welcome to the randstad q1 2026 results conference call and audio webcast For the first part of the call, the participants will be in listen-only mode. for the first part of the call the participants will be in listen-only mode Afterwards, there will be a question and answer session. afterwards there will be a question and answer session If you wish to ask a question, please press pound key five on your telephone keypad. if you wish to ask a question please press pound key five on your telephone keypad Please note that you are limited to one question per round and one follow-up question. please note that you are limited to one question per round and one follow-up question I will now hand the word over to Sander van 't Noordende, CEO. i will now hand the word over to sander van 't noordende ceo Mr. van 't Noordende, please go ahead. mr van 't noordende please go ahead

Speaker 9: Thank you very much, Bart Jan, for that kind introduction, and good morning, everybody. I'm here with Jorge and our investor relations team to share our Q1 2026 results. Let me first say I'm proud of our team's continued execution of our Partner for Talent strategy, which is delivering a strong foundation for our growth ambitions. As a result, our growth has broadened with 63% of Randstad now in growth, up from 50% in Q4, which equates to 0.4% growth for the quarter. Overall volume in contingent work was resilient, with strong momentum in the U.S. and Southern Europe, especially, of course, in our Randstad Operational business. We see further stabilization in industrial markets in Northwest Europe, while the permanent and professional markets remain challenging. APAC remains robust. Thank you very much, Bart Jan, for that kind introduction, and good morning, everybody. thank you very much bart jan for that kind introduction and good morning everybody I'm here with Jorge and our investor relations team to share our Q1 2026 results. i'm here with jorge and our investor relations team to share our q1 2026 results Let me first say I'm proud of our team's continued execution of our Partner for Talent strategy, which is delivering a strong foundation for our growth ambitions. let me first say i'm proud of our team's continued execution of our partner for talent strategy which is delivering a strong foundation for our growth ambitions As a result, our growth has broadened with 63% of Randstad now in growth, up from 50% in Q4, which equates to 0.4% growth for the quarter. as a result our growth has broadened with 63% of randstad now in growth up from 50% in q4 which equates to 0.4% growth for the quarter Overall volume in contingent work was resilient, with strong momentum in the U.S. and Southern Europe, especially, of course, in our Randstad Operational business. overall volume in contingent work was resilient with strong momentum in the u.s and southern europe especially of course in our randstad operational business We see further stabilization in industrial markets in Northwest Europe, while the permanent and professional markets remain challenging. we see further stabilization in industrial markets in northwest europe while the permanent and professional markets remain challenging APAC remains robust. apac remains robust Together with strong adaptability, this has resulted in a solid performance with revenues of EUR 5.5 billion and an EBITDA of EUR 146 million, representing a 2.7% margin. Volume trends in early April have been encouraging, and so far, we have seen very limited impact from the geopolitical situation in the Middle East. As you would expect, we are monitoring the situation vigilantly and are in constant dialogue with our clients to understand the impact they are noticing on their business. However, the current trajectory of our business gives us confidence for the months ahead. As we move further into 2026, we continue to progress well on our Partner for Talent strategy. Our growth through specialization is fueled by the 10 by 10 by 10 initiative. 10 markets with each 10 opportunities of 10 million or more. Together with strong adaptability, this has resulted in a solid performance with revenues of EUR 5.5 billion and an EBITDA of EUR 146 million, representing a 2.7% margin. together with strong adaptability this has resulted in a solid performance with revenues of eur 5.5 billion and an ebitda of eur 146 million representing a 2.7% margin Volume trends in early April have been encouraging, and so far, we have seen very limited impact from the geopolitical situation in the Middle East. volume trends in early april have been encouraging and so far we have seen very limited impact from the geopolitical situation in the middle east As you would expect, we are monitoring the situation vigilantly and are in constant dialogue with our clients to understand the impact they are noticing on their business. as you would expect we are monitoring the situation vigilantly and are in constant dialogue with our clients to understand the impact they are noticing on their business However, the current trajectory of our business gives us confidence for the months ahead. however the current trajectory of our business gives us confidence for the months ahead As we move further into 2026, we continue to progress well on our Partner for Talent strategy. as we move further into 2026 we continue to progress well on our partner for talent strategy Our growth through specialization is fueled by the 10 by 10 by 10 initiative. 10 markets with each 10 opportunities of 10 million or more. our growth through specialization is fueled by the 10 by 10 by 10 initiative 10 markets with each 10 opportunities of 10 million or more Jesus and the team are doing a fantastic job here and secured over EUR 600 million of new wins in Q1. In Operational, we saw an uptick of client activity across our industrial segments, particularly in manufacturing, including skilled trades in markets such as Germany and Italy. We saw strong growth in the logistics sector, with increased hiring forecast in key markets such as the U.S., France, and the Netherlands. In Professional, we saw momentum improving in engineering in the U.S., Italy, and Japan, and we are growing in Healthcare, primarily driven by the Netherlands and Italy. After a slow January in our enterprise business, we expect trends to sequentially improve from here as we secured a number of new clients this quarter across life sciences, semiconductors, and energy. The health of our pipeline also bodes well for the rest of the year. Jesus and the team are doing a fantastic job here and secured over EUR 600 million of new wins in Q1. jesus and the team are doing a fantastic job here and secured over eur 600 million of new wins in q1 In Operational, we saw an uptick of client activity across our industrial segments, particularly in manufacturing, including skilled trades in markets such as Germany and Italy. in operational we saw an uptick of client activity across our industrial segments particularly in manufacturing including skilled trades in markets such as germany and italy We saw strong growth in the logistics sector, with increased hiring forecast in key markets such as the U.S., France, and the Netherlands. we saw strong growth in the logistics sector with increased hiring forecast in key markets such as the u.s france and the netherlands In Professional, we saw momentum improving in engineering in the U.S., Italy, and Japan, and we are growing in Healthcare, primarily driven by the Netherlands and Italy. in professional we saw momentum improving in engineering in the u.s italy and japan and we are growing in healthcare primarily driven by the netherlands and italy After a slow January in our enterprise business, we expect trends to sequentially improve from here as we secured a number of new clients this quarter across life sciences, semiconductors, and energy. after a slow january in our enterprise business we expect trends to sequentially improve from here as we secured a number of new clients this quarter across life sciences semiconductors and energy The health of our pipeline also bodes well for the rest of the year. the health of our pipeline also bodes well for the rest of the year We celebrated the rollout of our digital marketplace in the U.K., and once again, talent loves it. Within two hours, we had 77% of the targeted talent on the app. We are now live in nine markets. In March alone, we managed close to 600,000 self-service shifts, with around 240,000 monthly active users. We also went live with the front and mid-office of our Randstad Talent Platform in Italy, with our digital marketplace to follow later this year. On AI, 80% of our staff are now AI trained. Working smarter and more efficiently is essential to continue driving down indirect costs as a percentage of revenue. As we enter 2026, I'm proud of our teams as our Partner for Talent strategy and commercial success provides a strong foundation for our growth ambitions. We celebrated the rollout of our digital marketplace in the U.K., and once again, talent loves it. we celebrated the rollout of our digital marketplace in the u.k and once again talent loves it Within two hours, we had 77% of the targeted talent on the app. within two hours we had 77% of the targeted talent on the app We are now live in nine markets. we are now live in nine markets In March alone, we managed close to 600,000 self-service shifts, with around 240,000 monthly active users. in march alone we managed close to 600,000 self-service shifts with around 240,000 monthly active users We also went live with the front and mid-office of our Randstad Talent Platform in Italy, with our digital marketplace to follow later this year. we also went live with the front and mid-office of our randstad talent platform in italy with our digital marketplace to follow later this year On AI, 80% of our staff are now AI trained. on ai 80% of our staff are now ai trained Working smarter and more efficiently is essential to continue driving down indirect costs as a percentage of revenue. working smarter and more efficiently is essential to continue driving down indirect costs as a percentage of revenue As we enter 2026, I'm proud of our teams as our Partner for Talent strategy and commercial success provides a strong foundation for our growth ambitions. as we enter 2026 i'm proud of our teams as our partner for talent strategy and commercial success provides a strong foundation for our growth ambitions Because I know it's on your minds, let me say a few words about the role of AI in the labor market. Above all, we are AI optimists. In the context of an aging population and persistent labor mismatches, we view AI as a critical enabler for a very welcome productivity boost. There are a few points I'd like to make here. First, studies show that the base case for the impact of AI is a job loss of 6%-7% over the next five to 10 years, with a particular focus on clerical roles, customer service, marketing and design, and software development, where our exposure as Randstad is currently limited. It looks like AI is more about task and team augmentation than outright job replacement, so roles will change over time, and we at Randstad call this the great adaptation of the workforce. Because I know it's on your minds, let me say a few words about the role of AI in the labor market. because i know it's on your minds let me say a few words about the role of ai in the labor market Above all, we are AI optimists. above all we are ai optimists In the context of an aging population and persistent labor mismatches, we view AI as a critical enabler for a very welcome productivity boost. in the context of an aging population and persistent labor mismatches we view ai as a critical enabler for a very welcome productivity boost There are a few points I'd like to make here. there are a few points i'd like to make here First, studies show that the base case for the impact of AI is a job loss of 6%-7% over the next five to 10 years, with a particular focus on clerical roles, customer service, marketing and design, and software development, where our exposure as Randstad is currently limited. first studies show that the base case for the impact of ai is a job loss of 6%-7% over the next five to 10 years with a particular focus on clerical roles customer service marketing and design and software development where our exposure as randstad is currently limited It looks like AI is more about task and team augmentation than outright job replacement, so roles will change over time, and we at Randstad call this the great adaptation of the workforce. it looks like ai is more about task and team augmentation than outright job replacement so roles will change over time and we at randstad call this the great adaptation of the workforce Finally, the phenomenon of jobs disappearing and new jobs emerging is of all ages. Of the jobs we cater for today, around 60%-70% did not exist 65 years ago when we started Randstad. Our first temps were mostly executive assistants, which today are a fraction of our business. What does this all mean for Randstad? First of all, Randstad Operational and Healthcare are 2/3 of our business today. These are typically jobs that are human-centric and minimally impacted by AI. Think about maintenance technicians, welders and fabricators, HVAC specialists, and of course, nurses and care workers. Secondly, our strategy is to ensure that we are highly relevant where the future jobs are. That's why we have our four specializations, each with its own growth segments, such as skilled trade, logistics, engineering, healthcare. As the Canadians say, we are skating where the puck is going to be. Finally, the phenomenon of jobs disappearing and new jobs emerging is of all ages. finally the phenomenon of jobs disappearing and new jobs emerging is of all ages Of the jobs we cater for today, around 60%-70% did not exist 65 years ago when we started Randstad. of the jobs we cater for today around 60%-70% did not exist 65 years ago when we started randstad Our first temps were mostly executive assistants, which today are a fraction of our business. our first temps were mostly executive assistants which today are a fraction of our business What does this all mean for Randstad? what does this all mean for randstad First of all, Randstad Operational and Healthcare are 2/3 of our business today. first of all randstad operational and healthcare are 2/3 of our business today These are typically jobs that are human-centric and minimally impacted by AI. these are typically jobs that are human-centric and minimally impacted by ai Think about maintenance technicians, welders and fabricators, HVAC specialists, and of course, nurses and care workers. think about maintenance technicians welders and fabricators hvac specialists and of course nurses and care workers Secondly, our strategy is to ensure that we are highly relevant where the future jobs are. secondly our strategy is to ensure that we are highly relevant where the future jobs are That's why we have our four specializations, each with its own growth segments, such as skilled trade, logistics, engineering, healthcare. that's why we have our four specializations each with its own growth segments such as skilled trade logistics engineering healthcare As the Canadians say, we are skating where the puck is going to be. as the canadians say we are skating where the puck is going to be In summary, we're confident by taking the right actions per our Partner for Talent strategy, we can navigate and benefit from the impact of AI on the labor market over the next five to 10 years. I'm going to now hand over to Jorge to say a bit more about our financial results. Jorge? In summary, we're confident by taking the right actions per our Partner for Talent strategy, we can navigate and benefit from the impact of AI on the labor market over the next five to 10 years. in summary we're confident by taking the right actions per our partner for talent strategy we can navigate and benefit from the impact of ai on the labor market over the next five to 10 years I'm going to now hand over to Jorge to say a bit more about our financial results. i'm going to now hand over to jorge to say a bit more about our financial results Jorge? jorge

Speaker 3: Thank you, Sander, and good morning, everyone. Let me start by saying that overall, we are happy to see that this quarter mostly came in line with our expectations. The trends are consistent, they are more stable, and the changes we are doing are also more structural. We saw sequential improvement in growth rates across most of our markets, and we returned to organic revenue growth. This growth is led by our Operational business, as Sander just highlighted, which grew 3% globally, including a strong 8% in U.S., where our digital marketplace is driving tangible market share gains. It's also positive to see manufacturing PMIs above 50 in most of our markets for the first time in many quarters. Thank you, Sander, and good morning, everyone. thank you sander and good morning everyone Let me start by saying that overall, we are happy to see that this quarter mostly came in line with our expectations. let me start by saying that overall we are happy to see that this quarter mostly came in line with our expectations The trends are consistent, they are more stable, and the changes we are doing are also more structural. the trends are consistent they are more stable and the changes we are doing are also more structural We saw sequential improvement in growth rates across most of our markets, and we returned to organic revenue growth. we saw sequential improvement in growth rates across most of our markets and we returned to organic revenue growth This growth is led by our Operational business, as Sander just highlighted, which grew 3% globally, including a strong 8% in U.S., where our digital marketplace is driving tangible market share gains. this growth is led by our operational business as sander just highlighted which grew 3% globally including a strong 8% in u.s where our digital marketplace is driving tangible market share gains It's also positive to see manufacturing PMIs above 50 in most of our markets for the first time in many quarters. it's also positive to see manufacturing pmis above 50 in most of our markets for the first time in many quarters While remaining vigilant on geopolitics, we do balance momentum with strict discipline and investments in our roadmap, not only to protect the bottom line, but also in growth to ensure we have the operational gearing ready for the coming quarters. Before we move on to the section in the markets, please note, a small note, we have simplified the reporting structure by removing the regional sub-segments in Europe. Where applicable, the comparative figures are presented to align with this new structure. Let's dive in, and let's start with North America on page nine. In North America, we continued to build throughout the quarter, with strong exit rates in our industrial sectors. U.S. operational grew 8%, significantly outpacing the market, and its double-digit profit growth validates our new model of central delivery and a digital marketplace. Professional is down 8%, but improving sequentially, with perm returning now to growth. While remaining vigilant on geopolitics, we do balance momentum with strict discipline and investments in our roadmap, not only to protect the bottom line, but also in growth to ensure we have the operational gearing ready for the coming quarters. while remaining vigilant on geopolitics we do balance momentum with strict discipline and investments in our roadmap not only to protect the bottom line but also in growth to ensure we have the operational gearing ready for the coming quarters Before we move on to the section in the markets, please note, a small note, we have simplified the reporting structure by removing the regional sub-segments in Europe. before we move on to the section in the markets please note a small note we have simplified the reporting structure by removing the regional sub-segments in europe Where applicable, the comparative figures are presented to align with this new structure. where applicable the comparative figures are presented to align with this new structure Let's dive in, and let's start with North America on page nine. let's dive in and let's start with north america on page nine In North America, we continued to build throughout the quarter, with strong exit rates in our industrial sectors. in north america we continued to build throughout the quarter with strong exit rates in our industrial sectors U.S. operational grew 8%, significantly outpacing the market, and its double-digit profit growth validates our new model of central delivery and a digital marketplace. u.s operational grew 8% significantly outpacing the market and its double-digit profit growth validates our new model of central delivery and a digital marketplace Professional is down 8%, but improving sequentially, with perm returning now to growth. professional is down 8% but improving sequentially with perm returning now to growth Enterprise started slow, as mentioned already at the end of Q4, but ended with stronger exit rates, driven by major new wins and a solid pipeline. Digital faced muted Q1 demand, but adapted well. Canada mirrors the U.S., with strong operational growth offsetting a slower enterprise start. Overall, North American EBITDA margin was 3% year-over-year, delivering a 78% recovery ratio. Now, moving on to the major European markets on slide 10. In Europe, momentum is improving across our major markets, though the split between a strong south and a slower north still remains. In the Netherlands, organic revenue returned to growth, driven by continued good performance in Healthcare and solid positioning with large logistics and e-commerce clients. Enterprise started slow, as mentioned already at the end of Q4, but ended with stronger exit rates, driven by major new wins and a solid pipeline. enterprise started slow as mentioned already at the end of q4 but ended with stronger exit rates driven by major new wins and a solid pipeline Digital faced muted Q1 demand, but adapted well. digital faced muted q1 demand but adapted well Canada mirrors the U.S., with strong operational growth offsetting a slower enterprise start. canada mirrors the u.s with strong operational growth offsetting a slower enterprise start Overall, North American EBITDA margin was 3% year-over-year, delivering a 78% recovery ratio. overall north american ebitda margin was 3% year-over-year delivering a 78% recovery ratio Now, moving on to the major European markets on slide 10. now moving on to the major european markets on slide 10 In Europe, momentum is improving across our major markets, though the split between a strong south and a slower north still remains. in europe momentum is improving across our major markets though the split between a strong south and a slower north still remains In the Netherlands, organic revenue returned to growth, driven by continued good performance in Healthcare and solid positioning with large logistics and e-commerce clients. in the netherlands organic revenue returned to growth driven by continued good performance in healthcare and solid positioning with large logistics and e-commerce clients We spent Q1 implementing the new CLA together with our clients, and while complex and not finished yet, we progress well and expect this to be concluded in the next few weeks. Overall profitability came in at 4.4%. In Germany, we are seeing early signs of recovery, down just 4%, driven by improving PMIs. Industrial pockets are returning to growth, and even automotive, while still declining, it is clearly bottoming out. Public infrastructure spending has yet to materialize. In Germany, the transformation we started last year is paying off as the business pushes hard to return to growth at a more sustainable level of profitability. Now in Belgium, we still declined 6%, with operation at -4%. The weakness in the market is mostly around permanent hiring and office jobs. Now moving on to France, it remains still a two-speed market. We spent Q1 implementing the new CLA together with our clients, and while complex and not finished yet, we progress well and expect this to be concluded in the next few weeks. we spent q1 implementing the new cla together with our clients and while complex and not finished yet we progress well and expect this to be concluded in the next few weeks Overall profitability came in at 4.4%. overall profitability came in at 4.4% In Germany, we are seeing early signs of recovery, down just 4%, driven by improving PMIs. in germany we are seeing early signs of recovery down just 4% driven by improving pmis Industrial pockets are returning to growth, and even automotive, while still declining, it is clearly bottoming out. industrial pockets are returning to growth and even automotive while still declining it is clearly bottoming out Public infrastructure spending has yet to materialize. public infrastructure spending has yet to materialize In Germany, the transformation we started last year is paying off as the business pushes hard to return to growth at a more sustainable level of profitability. in germany the transformation we started last year is paying off as the business pushes hard to return to growth at a more sustainable level of profitability Now in Belgium, we still declined 6%, with operation at -4%. now in belgium we still declined 6% with operation at -4% The weakness in the market is mostly around permanent hiring and office jobs. the weakness in the market is mostly around permanent hiring and office jobs Now moving on to France, it remains still a two-speed market. now moving on to france it remains still a two-speed market On one side, our in-house and larger client portfolio is up 11%. On the other side, SME and still perm segments are currently lagging the market. Professionals here also declined 13% year-over-year, with volumes weighed down by the recent healthcare legislation. Overall profitability came in at 3.9%. Italy. In Italy, growth continued to accelerate on the back of a successful Olympics campaign, with Operational up 9% and Professionals also growing now at 6% as our recent investments over 2025 pay off. Profitability came in at 5.1%, impacted this quarter by an Olympics brand awareness campaign and strategic investments for the platform. Iberia had a fantastic quarter, +9%, led by Spain, north of 10%, where we are firing on all cylinders, and we continue to invest in further growth, both in people and capabilities. Let's now move on to the international market slide on slide 11. On one side, our in-house and larger client portfolio is up 11%. on one side our in-house and larger client portfolio is up 11% On the other side, SME and still perm segments are currently lagging the market. on the other side sme and still perm segments are currently lagging the market Professionals here also declined 13% year-over-year, with volumes weighed down by the recent healthcare legislation. professionals here also declined 13% year-over-year with volumes weighed down by the recent healthcare legislation Overall profitability came in at 3.9%. overall profitability came in at 3.9% Italy. italy In Italy, growth continued to accelerate on the back of a successful Olympics campaign, with Operational up 9% and Professionals also growing now at 6% as our recent investments over 2025 pay off. in italy growth continued to accelerate on the back of a successful olympics campaign with operational up 9% and professionals also growing now at 6% as our recent investments over 2025 pay off Profitability came in at 5.1%, impacted this quarter by an Olympics brand awareness campaign and strategic investments for the platform. profitability came in at 5.1% impacted this quarter by an olympics brand awareness campaign and strategic investments for the platform Iberia had a fantastic quarter, +9%, led by Spain, north of 10%, where we are firing on all cylinders, and we continue to invest in further growth, both in people and capabilities. iberia had a fantastic quarter +9% led by spain north of 10% where we are firing on all cylinders and we continue to invest in further growth both in people and capabilities Let's now move on to the international market slide on slide 11. let's now move on to the international market slide on slide 11 International markets are a bit of a mixed bag, as you can see. Let me quickly unpack in more detail. In Europe, we celebrated the go live of our RDMP in the U.K., like Sander mentioned, and it's great to see our first talents using the platform over the last two, three weeks. Poland is still growing at 2%. Switzerland 3%, continue to grow, and offsetting still the subdued Nordics, still at -11%. In LatAm, we continue to see good momentum, particularly in Brazil. In Asia Pacific, Japan continued its solid growth at +5%, and we continue here to invest to capture structural opportunities, particularly in the digital area and in Tokyo. Australia and New Zealand declined -4%, with some signs now of stabilization. India growth accelerated to 16% as we continued to invest in growth segments. International markets are a bit of a mixed bag, as you can see. international markets are a bit of a mixed bag as you can see Let me quickly unpack in more detail. let me quickly unpack in more detail In Europe, we celebrated the go live of our RDMP in the U.K., like Sander mentioned, and it's great to see our first talents using the platform over the last two, three weeks. in europe we celebrated the go live of our rdmp in the u.k like sander mentioned and it's great to see our first talents using the platform over the last two three weeks Poland is still growing at 2%. poland is still growing at 2% Switzerland 3%, continue to grow, and offsetting still the subdued Nordics, still at -11%. switzerland 3% continue to grow and offsetting still the subdued nordics still at -11% In LatAm, we continue to see good momentum, particularly in Brazil. in latam we continue to see good momentum particularly in brazil In Asia Pacific, Japan continued its solid growth at +5%, and we continue here to invest to capture structural opportunities, particularly in the digital area and in Tokyo. in asia pacific japan continued its solid growth at +5% and we continue here to invest to capture structural opportunities particularly in the digital area and in tokyo Australia and New Zealand declined -4%, with some signs now of stabilization. australia and new zealand declined -4% with some signs now of stabilization India growth accelerated to 16% as we continued to invest in growth segments. india growth accelerated to 16% as we continued to invest in growth segments Overall, the EBITDA margin for the region came in 3.6%, reflecting growth investments. That concludes the performance of our key geographies. Let me now walk you through our combined financial performance on slide 13. Looking at the revenue mix, we see the trends of the last few quarters continuing. Operational sees momentum now accelerating and is now growing 3%. Remember, it was flat on Q4. Professional also improved quarter-over-quarter due to strong demand in healthcare, particularly in the Netherlands and Italy, engineering in U.S. and Japan. Digital and Enterprise started the year slowly and tougher comps certainly did not help. Pipeline deal wins and exit rates for Enterprise look better as we enter into Q2. Now, our gross profit and OpEx were well aligned, but we will talk more about that particularly later. Zooming in into EBITDA. EBITDA margin was 2.7%. Overall, the EBITDA margin for the region came in 3.6%, reflecting growth investments. overall the ebitda margin for the region came in 3.6% reflecting growth investments That concludes the performance of our key geographies. that concludes the performance of our key geographies Let me now walk you through our combined financial performance on slide 13. let me now walk you through our combined financial performance on slide 13 Looking at the revenue mix, we see the trends of the last few quarters continuing. looking at the revenue mix we see the trends of the last few quarters continuing Operational sees momentum now accelerating and is now growing 3%. operational sees momentum now accelerating and is now growing 3% Remember, it was flat on Q4. remember it was flat on q4 Professional also improved quarter-over-quarter due to strong demand in healthcare, particularly in the Netherlands and Italy, engineering in U.S. and Japan. professional also improved quarter-over-quarter due to strong demand in healthcare particularly in the netherlands and italy engineering in u.s and japan Digital and Enterprise started the year slowly and tougher comps certainly did not help. digital and enterprise started the year slowly and tougher comps certainly did not help Pipeline deal wins and exit rates for Enterprise look better as we enter into Q2. Now, our gross profit and OpEx were well aligned, but we will talk more about that particularly later. pipeline deal wins and exit rates for enterprise look better as we enter into q2. now our gross profit and opex were well aligned but we will talk more about that particularly later Zooming in into EBITDA. zooming in into ebitda EBITDA margin was 2.7%. ebitda margin was 2.7% Underlying EBITDA was EUR 146 million, with an adverse FX effects impact this quarter of EUR 6 million, which will start leveling off from here. Integration costs and one-offs this quarter amounted to EUR 23 million, and they were mostly related to basically the Netherlands or Northern and Western Europe as we continue to drive structural change across our organization. Net finance costs are just the regular interest payments, albeit lower, reflecting the lower net debt coming down. The effective tax rate for the first three months was 31%. We expect the 2026 ETR towards the higher end of 29%-31% range. This all led to an adjusted net income of EUR 91 million for the quarter. With that, let's indeed now deep dive into the gross margin slides on slide 14. A few things about the margin. Gross margin was down 80 basis points to 18.5%. Underlying EBITDA was EUR 146 million, with an adverse FX effects impact this quarter of EUR 6 million, which will start leveling off from here. underlying ebitda was eur 146 million with an adverse fx effects impact this quarter of eur 6 million which will start leveling off from here Integration costs and one-offs this quarter amounted to EUR 23 million, and they were mostly related to basically the Netherlands or Northern and Western Europe as we continue to drive structural change across our organization. integration costs and one-offs this quarter amounted to eur 23 million and they were mostly related to basically the netherlands or northern and western europe as we continue to drive structural change across our organization Net finance costs are just the regular interest payments, albeit lower, reflecting the lower net debt coming down. net finance costs are just the regular interest payments albeit lower reflecting the lower net debt coming down The effective tax rate for the first three months was 31%. the effective tax rate for the first three months was 31% We expect the 2026 ETR towards the higher end of 29%-31% range. we expect the 2026 etr towards the higher end of 29%-31% range This all led to an adjusted net income of EUR 91 million for the quarter. this all led to an adjusted net income of eur 91 million for the quarter With that, let's indeed now deep dive into the gross margin slides on slide 14. with that let's indeed now deep dive into the gross margin slides on slide 14 A few things about the margin. a few things about the margin Gross margin was down 80 basis points to 18.5%. gross margin was down 80 basis points to 18.5% Within that, our temp margin is down 60 basis points and primarily with points we had highlighted already in the previous quarter. On one hand, operational remains more resilient, if not even now in growth versus professional and digital specializations. Two, we continue to see geographical divergence with Northern Europe below group average and Southern Europe continuing to do better. The adverse FX impact following, let's say, Liberation Day, it still plays a role. Last but not the least, as we mentioned in Q4, there were incidentals between Q4 and Q1 last year, which impacts a little bit the comparisons. Perm contribution, which was still down 20 basis points, is now somewhat stable at low level as key European perm markets still remain very challenging. In HRS and other, remember here we include RPO, outplacement, and a lot of other fee businesses, MSP, is still flat. Within that, our temp margin is down 60 basis points and primarily with points we had highlighted already in the previous quarter. within that our temp margin is down 60 basis points and primarily with points we had highlighted already in the previous quarter On one hand, operational remains more resilient, if not even now in growth versus professional and digital specializations. on one hand operational remains more resilient if not even now in growth versus professional and digital specializations Two, we continue to see geographical divergence with Northern Europe below group average and Southern Europe continuing to do better. two we continue to see geographical divergence with northern europe below group average and southern europe continuing to do better The adverse FX impact following, let's say, Liberation Day, it still plays a role. the adverse fx impact following let's say liberation day it still plays a role Last but not the least, as we mentioned in Q4, there were incidentals between Q4 and Q1 last year, which impacts a little bit the comparisons. last but not the least as we mentioned in q4 there were incidentals between q4 and q1 last year which impacts a little bit the comparisons Perm contribution, which was still down 20 basis points, is now somewhat stable at low level as key European perm markets still remain very challenging. perm contribution which was still down 20 basis points is now somewhat stable at low level as key european perm markets still remain very challenging In HRS and other, remember here we include RPO, outplacement, and a lot of other fee businesses, MSP, is still flat. in hrs and other remember here we include rpo outplacement and a lot of other fee businesses msp is still flat This is the market at the moment and where the majority of the gross margin pressure is simply a reflection of the continued growth divergence across our portfolio. Albeit most of this pressure starts to ease as we progress through the quarters ahead. Let me bring you now into more details on slide 15 on our OpEx bridge. Underlying operating expenses were EUR 873 million, moving in lockstep with gross profit, as we've been doing in the previous quarters. Despite inflationary pressures, we lowered costs, excuse me, OpEx quarter-over-quarter, and we are building clear operational leverage. We're achieving this through delivery excellence, growing volumes in key markets, and delivering through the most productive talent service models without adding as much headcount. In fact, the correlation between volume and FTE is now at a six-year low. This is the market at the moment and where the majority of the gross margin pressure is simply a reflection of the continued growth divergence across our portfolio. this is the market at the moment and where the majority of the gross margin pressure is simply a reflection of the continued growth divergence across our portfolio Albeit most of this pressure starts to ease as we progress through the quarters ahead. albeit most of this pressure starts to ease as we progress through the quarters ahead Let me bring you now into more details on slide 15 on our OpEx bridge. let me bring you now into more details on slide 15 on our opex bridge Underlying operating expenses were EUR 873 million, moving in lockstep with gross profit, as we've been doing in the previous quarters. underlying operating expenses were eur 873 million moving in lockstep with gross profit as we've been doing in the previous quarters Despite inflationary pressures, we lowered costs, excuse me, OpEx quarter-over-quarter, and we are building clear operational leverage. despite inflationary pressures we lowered costs excuse me opex quarter-over-quarter and we are building clear operational leverage We're achieving this through delivery excellence, growing volumes in key markets, and delivering through the most productive talent service models without adding as much headcount. we're achieving this through delivery excellence growing volumes in key markets and delivering through the most productive talent service models without adding as much headcount In fact, the correlation between volume and FTE is now at a six-year low. in fact the correlation between volume and fte is now at a six-year low We also continue to reduce indirect costs as a percentage of revenue through scale and technology. Overall, I think the important point about our OpEx is that the change in the past three years proved to be structural, with again, the last four quarters ICR hitting close to 70% at 68%. What this means is that we are improving our ability to offset gross profit declines by reducing OpEx or to convert gross profit into EBITDA as growth returns. With that in mind, let's now move on to slide 16, which contains our cash flow and balance sheet remarks. First, balance sheet. Our underlying free cash flow for the quarter stood at -EUR 98 million. We typically have the most seasonal negative working capital movements in this quarter, such as VAT, wage taxes, commissions, and prepayments. We also continue to reduce indirect costs as a percentage of revenue through scale and technology. we also continue to reduce indirect costs as a percentage of revenue through scale and technology Overall, I think the important point about our OpEx is that the change in the past three years proved to be structural, with again, the last four quarters ICR hitting close to 70% at 68%. overall i think the important point about our opex is that the change in the past three years proved to be structural with again the last four quarters icr hitting close to 70% at 68% What this means is that we are improving our ability to offset gross profit declines by reducing OpEx or to convert gross profit into EBITDA as growth returns. what this means is that we are improving our ability to offset gross profit declines by reducing opex or to convert gross profit into ebitda as growth returns With that in mind, let's now move on to slide 16, which contains our cash flow and balance sheet remarks. with that in mind let's now move on to slide 16 which contains our cash flow and balance sheet remarks First, balance sheet. first balance sheet Our underlying free cash flow for the quarter stood at -EUR 98 million. our underlying free cash flow for the quarter stood at -eur 98 million We typically have the most seasonal negative working capital movements in this quarter, such as VAT, wage taxes, commissions, and prepayments. we typically have the most seasonal negative working capital movements in this quarter such as vat wage taxes commissions and prepayments In addition, in particular in Q1 this quarter, we had a delay in invoicing at the beginning of the quarter associated with the Netherlands following the implementation of the new regulatory framework of about EUR 40 million-EUR 50 million. This will obviously normalize now into Q2, and we expect the same cash trajectory for the full-year. DSO came in at 57.4 days, up 0.7 days sequentially, and reflecting exactly the mix and the delay in invoicing. Net debt decreased EUR 131 million year-over-year, and our leverage ratio stands now at 1.5. That brings me to the outlook on slide 17. Looking at the current momentum, we see the positive volume trends in February and March continuing to April, and that gives us confidence for the months ahead. Now remember, Sander highlighted we have seen no direct impact from the Middle East, but we remain vigilant. In addition, in particular in Q1 this quarter, we had a delay in invoicing at the beginning of the quarter associated with the Netherlands following the implementation of the new regulatory framework of about EUR 40 million-EUR 50 million. in addition in particular in q1 this quarter we had a delay in invoicing at the beginning of the quarter associated with the netherlands following the implementation of the new regulatory framework of about eur 40 million-eur 50 million This will obviously normalize now into Q2, and we expect the same cash trajectory for the full-year. this will obviously normalize now into q2 and we expect the same cash trajectory for the full-year DSO came in at 57.4 days, up 0.7 days sequentially, and reflecting exactly the mix and the delay in invoicing. dso came in at 57.4 days up 0.7 days sequentially and reflecting exactly the mix and the delay in invoicing Net debt decreased EUR 131 million year-over-year, and our leverage ratio stands now at 1.5. net debt decreased eur 131 million year-over-year and our leverage ratio stands now at 1.5 That brings me to the outlook on slide 17. that brings me to the outlook on slide 17 Looking at the current momentum, we see the positive volume trends in February and March continuing to April, and that gives us confidence for the months ahead. looking at the current momentum we see the positive volume trends in february and march continuing to april and that gives us confidence for the months ahead Now remember, Sander highlighted we have seen no direct impact from the Middle East, but we remain vigilant. now remember sander highlighted we have seen no direct impact from the middle east but we remain vigilant Gross margin in Q2 is expected to be slightly down sequentially, reflecting the normal seasonal step-up into higher-volume clients, but also the lowest working day quarter of the year. We continue to still see as we enter ongoing reluctance in hiring or permanent hiring by clients and talents. On the other hand, operating expenses are expected to increase slightly quarter-over-quarter, but always, again, with strict operational discipline. To summarize, by sustaining our growth momentum, continuing to drive productivity from how we run our business, and structurally reducing the cost to support it, we are inherently building operational leverage into Randstad. That concludes our prepared remarks, and we look forward now to taking your questions. Gross margin in Q2 is expected to be slightly down sequentially, reflecting the normal seasonal step-up into higher-volume clients, but also the lowest working day quarter of the year. gross margin in q2 is expected to be slightly down sequentially reflecting the normal seasonal step-up into higher-volume clients but also the lowest working day quarter of the year We continue to still see as we enter ongoing reluctance in hiring or permanent hiring by clients and talents. we continue to still see as we enter ongoing reluctance in hiring or permanent hiring by clients and talents On the other hand, operating expenses are expected to increase slightly quarter-over-quarter, but always, again, with strict operational discipline. on the other hand operating expenses are expected to increase slightly quarter-over-quarter but always again with strict operational discipline To summarize, by sustaining our growth momentum, continuing to drive productivity from how we run our business, and structurally reducing the cost to support it, we are inherently building operational leverage into Randstad. to summarize by sustaining our growth momentum continuing to drive productivity from how we run our business and structurally reducing the cost to support it we are inherently building operational leverage into randstad That concludes our prepared remarks, and we look forward now to taking your questions. that concludes our prepared remarks and we look forward now to taking your questions

Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen, we are now ready to take your questions. If you wish to ask a question, please press pound key five on your telephone keypad. We kindly Rémind you that you are limited to one question per round and one follow-up. If you wish to withdraw your question, please press pound key six on your telephone keypad. The first question comes from Andy Grobler from BNP Paribas. Andy, go ahead. Ladies and gentlemen, we are now ready to take your questions. ladies and gentlemen we are now ready to take your questions If you wish to ask a question, please press pound key five on your telephone keypad. if you wish to ask a question please press pound key five on your telephone keypad We kindly Rémind you that you are limited to one question per round and one follow-up. we kindly rémind you that you are limited to one question per round and one follow-up If you wish to withdraw your question, please press pound key six on your telephone keypad. if you wish to withdraw your question please press pound key six on your telephone keypad The first question comes from Andy Grobler from BNP Paribas. the first question comes from andy grobler from bnp paribas Andy, go ahead. andy go ahead

Speaker 1: Well, hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just the first one on the Netherlands, which was much stronger than it had been. You talked about Zorgwerk impacting that, but I guess Zorgwerk is relatively small. Can you just talk through the math of what has changed and how much of that is due to Zorgwerk? How much of it is the rest of the business, please? One follow-up. I'll go with that one first. I'll follow up later. Well, hi. well hi Good morning. good morning Thanks for taking my question. thanks for taking my question Just the first one on the Netherlands, which was much stronger than it had been. just the first one on the netherlands which was much stronger than it had been You talked about Zorgwerk impacting that, but I guess Zorgwerk is relatively small. you talked about zorgwerk impacting that but i guess zorgwerk is relatively small Can you just talk through the math of what has changed and how much of that is due to Zorgwerk? can you just talk through the math of what has changed and how much of that is due to zorgwerk How much of it is the rest of the business, please? how much of it is the rest of the business please One follow-up. one follow-up I'll go with that one first. i'll go with that one first I'll follow up later. i'll follow up later

Speaker 9: Okay. Well, a good question, Andy. I'm going to first say that I think the team in the Netherlands has done an outstanding job in engaging with the clients and managing this through this whole situation. That's phenomenal. We said it was manageable, and it turned out to be manageable. I think that's very good. I'm going to ask Jorge to say a few more words about the economics of all this. Okay. okay Well, a good question, Andy. well a good question andy I'm going to first say that I think the team in the Netherlands has done an outstanding job in engaging with the clients and managing this through this whole situation. i'm going to first say that i think the team in the netherlands has done an outstanding job in engaging with the clients and managing this through this whole situation That's phenomenal. that's phenomenal We said it was manageable, and it turned out to be manageable. we said it was manageable and it turned out to be manageable I think that's very good. i think that's very good I'm going to ask Jorge to say a few more words about the economics of all this. i'm going to ask jorge to say a few more words about the economics of all this

Speaker 3: Yeah. I would say, Andy, at the very high level, probably the, let's say, the step up from Q4 into Q1 in this particular, in the Netherlands, I'd expect about half of it being connected to the good performance of Zorgwerk, their healthcare. It's not a small company, to be clear. That is also due to, of course, that now this makes part of our organic growth rate. That's as we annualize basically the acquisition of it. The remaining 50% has to do with strong performance in commerce and logistics and in general legislation as well, now including the support into Q1. Follow-up question, Andy? Yeah. yeah I would say, Andy, at the very high level, probably the, let's say, the step up from Q4 into Q1 in this particular, in the Netherlands, I'd expect about half of it being connected to the good performance of Zorgwerk, their healthcare. i would say andy at the very high level probably the let's say the step up from q4 into q1 in this particular in the netherlands i'd expect about half of it being connected to the good performance of zorgwerk their healthcare It's not a small company, to be clear. it's not a small company to be clear That is also due to, of course, that now this makes part of our organic growth rate. that is also due to of course that now this makes part of our organic growth rate That's as we annualize basically the acquisition of it. that's as we annualize basically the acquisition of it The remaining 50% has to do with strong performance in commerce and logistics and in general legislation as well, now including the support into Q1. the remaining 50% has to do with strong performance in commerce and logistics and in general legislation as well now including the support into q1 Follow-up question, Andy? follow-up question andy

Speaker 1: Just on a slightly different topic. Given the rate environment, what are your expectations for finance costs through the remainder of the year, please? Just on a slightly different topic. just on a slightly different topic Given the rate environment, what are your expectations for finance costs through the remainder of the year, please? given the rate environment what are your expectations for finance costs through the remainder of the year please

Speaker 9: Excuse me. Finance costs. Interest. Excuse me. excuse me Finance costs. finance costs Interest. interest

Speaker 3: Yeah. To basically continue down. We can see we start the year with already a lower FIFO into the year, and we continue to expect trending net debt down year-over-year, especially towards the second half of the year, as we always have the positive sides of operating working capital. Yeah. yeah To basically continue down. to basically continue down We can see we start the year with already a lower FIFO into the year, and we continue to expect trending net debt down year-over-year, especially towards the second half of the year, as we always have the positive sides of operating working capital. we can see we start the year with already a lower fifo into the year and we continue to expect trending net debt down year-over-year especially towards the second half of the year as we always have the positive sides of operating working capital

Speaker 1: Q1 number is, we can expect similar levels through the remainder of the year? Q1 number is, we can expect similar levels through the remainder of the year? q1 number is, we can expect similar levels through the remainder of the year

Speaker 3: Yes, we can expect similar numbers throughout the remainder of the year. Yes, we can expect similar numbers throughout the remainder of the year. yes we can expect similar numbers throughout the remainder of the year

Speaker 1: Okay, great. Thank you. Okay, great. okay great Thank you. thank you

Speaker 6: The next question comes from Rémi Grenu from Morgan Stanley. Rémi, go ahead. The next question comes from Rémi Grenu from Morgan Stanley. the next question comes from rémi grenu from morgan stanley Rémi, go ahead. rémi go ahead

Speaker 8: Morning, gentlemen. Yeah, my question would be on the momentum of activity. You're flagging that April was in line with March, and I guess with the -2.4% in January and your organic growth through the quarter, it probably means that the current run rate is north of 1% organic growth in the latter part in terms of exit rate and April. If you could confirm that. Trying to think about how to think about the better momentum that you've experienced in the business and the potential negative from the environment. I'm trying to understand what the base case you're working on internally. Would it be like continued improvement in temp and maybe a little bit of weakness in permanent recruitment? Just a discussion around that setup. Morning, gentlemen. morning gentlemen Yeah, my question would be on the momentum of activity. yeah my question would be on the momentum of activity You're flagging that April was in line with March, and I guess with the -2.4% in January and your organic growth through the quarter, it probably means that the current run rate is north of 1% organic growth in the latter part in terms of exit rate and April. you're flagging that april was in line with march and i guess with the -2.4% in january and your organic growth through the quarter it probably means that the current run rate is north of 1% organic growth in the latter part in terms of exit rate and april If you could confirm that. if you could confirm that Trying to think about how to think about the better momentum that you've experienced in the business and the potential negative from the environment. trying to think about how to think about the better momentum that you've experienced in the business and the potential negative from the environment I'm trying to understand what the base case you're working on internally. i'm trying to understand what the base case you're working on internally Would it be like continued improvement in temp and maybe a little bit of weakness in permanent recruitment? would it be like continued improvement in temp and maybe a little bit of weakness in permanent recruitment Just a discussion around that setup. just a discussion around that setup

Speaker 3: Thanks, Rémi. First of all, let me talk about the momentum. I think probably the most important comment is what Sander mentioned in the beginning. The step-up is broader, so it's across, I think practically all markets have shown a better momentum, if not perhaps Belgium being the exception. The rest, all our markets have stepped up. That sustains our belief. Okay, we made a step up. Two, you also see PMIs having improved significantly throughout, well, at least having been positive in most markets during Q1. It is, let's say, something that we look as confidence. Okay, what is at the basis of this, at the core of it? If I look in the quarter, indeed, you will remember when we talked about January, our exit rate was approximately -0.4 in January. Thanks, Rémi. thanks rémi First of all, let me talk about the momentum. first of all let me talk about the momentum I think probably the most important comment is what Sander mentioned in the beginning. i think probably the most important comment is what sander mentioned in the beginning The step-up is broader, so it's across, I think practically all markets have shown a better momentum, if not perhaps Belgium being the exception. the step-up is broader so it's across i think practically all markets have shown a better momentum if not perhaps belgium being the exception The rest, all our markets have stepped up. the rest all our markets have stepped up That sustains our belief. that sustains our belief Okay, we made a step up. okay we made a step up Two, you also see PMIs having improved significantly throughout, well, at least having been positive in most markets during Q1. two you also see pmis having improved significantly throughout well at least having been positive in most markets during q1 It is, let's say, something that we look as confidence. it is let's say something that we look as confidence Okay, what is at the basis of this, at the core of it? okay what is at the basis of this at the core of it If I look in the quarter, indeed, you will remember when we talked about January, our exit rate was approximately -0.4 in January. if i look in the quarter indeed you will remember when we talked about january our exit rate was approximately -0.4 in january We had a step up in February, but I think I'll prefer, given the amount of working days and the holidays between the two months, then you should take step, let's say, Feb and March together, and that will probably bring you, let's say, between 0.5%-1% as an exit rate. Remember we say temp productivities are in line. We are continuing to take that into Q2. There are adverse comps effects, but we also had them in Q1. For now, basically, we just take it as it comes, but it gives us confidence into Q2. We had a step up in February, but I think I'll prefer, given the amount of working days and the holidays between the two months, then you should take step, let's say, Feb and March together, and that will probably bring you, let's say, between 0.5%-1% as an exit rate. we had a step up in february but i think i'll prefer given the amount of working days and the holidays between the two months then you should take step let's say feb and march together and that will probably bring you let's say between 0.5%-1% as an exit rate Remember we say temp productivities are in line. remember we say temp productivities are in line We are continuing to take that into Q2. we are continuing to take that into q2 There are adverse comps effects, but we also had them in Q1. there are adverse comps effects but we also had them in q1 For now, basically, we just take it as it comes, but it gives us confidence into Q2. for now basically we just take it as it comes but it gives us confidence into q2

Speaker 8: Okay, just to follow up the discussion on temp versus perm for the outlook. We've heard some of your competitors being a little bit more cautious on permanent recruitment for the next few months. Is it something that you're? Okay, just to follow up the discussion on temp versus perm for the outlook. okay just to follow up the discussion on temp versus perm for the outlook We've heard some of your competitors being a little bit more cautious on permanent recruitment for the next few months. we've heard some of your competitors being a little bit more cautious on permanent recruitment for the next few months Is it something that you're? is it something that you're

Speaker 3: Yeah Yeah yeah

Speaker 8: You're looking at as well? Any insight from discussion with clients from that side? You're looking at as well? you're looking at as well Any insight from discussion with clients from that side? any insight from discussion with clients from that side

Speaker 3: Rémi, what you probably have at the moment, if you look at the actual absolute amounts invoice, they are quite stable. What you see is the critical roles are being replaced. Yeah. When clients will have more confidence and talents to start changing jobs or organizing work with more permanent jobs, we don't know. We also have in the U.S. some green shoots in terms of permanent recruitment, perm. EU is still very weak. Now, what I would argue is it's also a context where typically uncertainty will play out for any seasonal work to be primarily absorbed now by more temp or flexible solutions. That's what we see at the moment. Rémi, what you probably have at the moment, if you look at the actual absolute amounts invoice, they are quite stable. rémi what you probably have at the moment if you look at the actual absolute amounts invoice they are quite stable What you see is the critical roles are being replaced. what you see is the critical roles are being replaced Yeah. yeah When clients will have more confidence and talents to start changing jobs or organizing work with more permanent jobs, we don't know. when clients will have more confidence and talents to start changing jobs or organizing work with more permanent jobs we don't know We also have in the U.S. some green shoots in terms of permanent recruitment, perm. we also have in the u.s some green shoots in terms of permanent recruitment perm EU is still very weak. eu is still very weak Now, what I would argue is it's also a context where typically uncertainty will play out for any seasonal work to be primarily absorbed now by more temp or flexible solutions. now what i would argue is it's also a context where typically uncertainty will play out for any seasonal work to be primarily absorbed now by more temp or flexible solutions That's what we see at the moment. that's what we see at the moment

Speaker 8: Understood. Thank you very much. Understood. understood Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 6: The next question comes from Rory McKenzie from UBS. Rory, go ahead. The next question comes from Rory McKenzie from UBS. the next question comes from rory mckenzie from ubs Rory, go ahead. rory go ahead

Speaker 7: Good morning, all. It's Rory here. I wanted to ask about the digital marketplace, which you said did 1.45 million shifts in Q1. I just want to ask a lot more about the context for that number. How many shifts did your business deliver in total in the quarter? And also just what kinds of shifts are shifting to this marketplace? Is it more short term one-off covers or are customers using the DMP to change how they staff entire businesses? And also, could you talk about, is it changing your impact on the market in terms of new clients, or is this about wallet share? Thank you. Good morning, all. good morning all It's Rory here. it's rory here I wanted to ask about the digital marketplace, which you said did 1.45 million shifts in Q1. i wanted to ask about the digital marketplace which you said did 1.45 million shifts in q1 I just want to ask a lot more about the context for that number. i just want to ask a lot more about the context for that number How many shifts did your business deliver in total in the quarter? how many shifts did your business deliver in total in the quarter And also just what kinds of shifts are shifting to this marketplace? and also just what kinds of shifts are shifting to this marketplace Is it more short term one-off covers or are customers using the DMP to change how they staff entire businesses? is it more short term one-off covers or are customers using the dmp to change how they staff entire businesses And also, could you talk about, is it changing your impact on the market in terms of new clients, or is this about wallet share? and also could you talk about is it changing your impact on the market in terms of new clients or is this about wallet share Thank you. thank you

Speaker 9: Yeah. Very good questions, Rory. Let me start from the top. Obviously, this is all about making sure that Randstad supplies or delivers what we call immediate talent availability. I always say to the teams, we need to have the talent already there before the client even knows they need it. That's one. You can only do that with digital technologies. That means that in our operational business, and our biggest example is, of course, in the U.S. in Operational. We also have marketplaces in Healthcare, in France, in the Netherlands, in Australia. In Operational, we are starting or have started in a number of countries. Think Canada, also Australia, Japan. This is becoming a widespread phenomenon and an integral part of our strategy as Randstad. Why do clients like this? Well, clients like this because they get what they need. Yeah. yeah Very good questions, Rory. very good questions rory Let me start from the top. let me start from the top Obviously, this is all about making sure that Randstad supplies or delivers what we call immediate talent availability. obviously this is all about making sure that randstad supplies or delivers what we call immediate talent availability I always say to the teams, we need to have the talent already there before the client even knows they need it. i always say to the teams we need to have the talent already there before the client even knows they need it That's one. that's one You can only do that with digital technologies. you can only do that with digital technologies That means that in our operational business, and our biggest example is, of course, in the U.S. in Operational. that means that in our operational business and our biggest example is of course in the u.s in operational We also have marketplaces in Healthcare, in France, in the Netherlands, in Australia. we also have marketplaces in healthcare in france in the netherlands in australia In Operational, we are starting or have started in a number of countries. in operational we are starting or have started in a number of countries Think Canada, also Australia, Japan. think canada also australia japan This is becoming a widespread phenomenon and an integral part of our strategy as Randstad. this is becoming a widespread phenomenon and an integral part of our strategy as randstad Why do clients like this? why do clients like this Well, clients like this because they get what they need. well clients like this because they get what they need The fulfillment is higher. It's easy to do business with. In some clients, we are directly connected to their operational system. The shifts that they cannot fill, they put immediately onto the marketplace. Those shifts are filled within minutes or hours. Generally, 50%-60% of the shifts is filled within one hour, which gives the client confidence that the people will show up. Another benefit for the client is because people have selected those shifts themselves, the no-show rates have basically gone in half, so have reduced by 50%. There's all goodness in there for the client. For the talent, there's also goodness in there because talent can now decide when and where they work is one. They can do that at the moment as they like, and that's typically in the evening. They don't have to call one of our consultants to talk to that. The fulfillment is higher. the fulfillment is higher It's easy to do business with. it's easy to do business with In some clients, we are directly connected to their operational system. in some clients we are directly connected to their operational system The shifts that they cannot fill, they put immediately onto the marketplace. the shifts that they cannot fill they put immediately onto the marketplace Those shifts are filled within minutes or hours. those shifts are filled within minutes or hours Generally, 50%-60% of the shifts is filled within one hour, which gives the client confidence that the people will show up. generally 50%-60% of the shifts is filled within one hour which gives the client confidence that the people will show up Another benefit for the client is because people have selected those shifts themselves, the no-show rates have basically gone in half, so have reduced by 50%. another benefit for the client is because people have selected those shifts themselves the no-show rates have basically gone in half so have reduced by 50% There's all goodness in there for the client. there's all goodness in there for the client For the talent, there's also goodness in there because talent can now decide when and where they work is one. for the talent there's also goodness in there because talent can now decide when and where they work is one They can do that at the moment as they like, and that's typically in the evening. they can do that at the moment as they like and that's typically in the evening They don't have to call one of our consultants to talk to that. they don't have to call one of our consultants to talk to that They can decide by themselves. Again, the no-show rates increase. This is clear benefits for clients and talents. All those benefits also add up to benefits for Randstad. Higher fill rate is more business. No-shows reduced is more business. Fill rate up is happier clients. Fill rate up is happier talent. Of course, efficiency, productivity because there is no human intervention. The client types in their own shift. Talent selects their own shift. That means zero marginal cost if there's more demand, meaning ramp up is a lot easier because we have the talent there. The client decides that they need 10 or 20 people more. The next day, we put the shifts on the marketplace. It all works. I'm absolutely convinced that our growth rate in U.S. Operational this quarter is driven in part by the fact that we have a digital marketplace. They can decide by themselves. they can decide by themselves Again, the no-show rates increase. again the no-show rates increase This is clear benefits for clients and talents. this is clear benefits for clients and talents All those benefits also add up to benefits for Randstad. all those benefits also add up to benefits for randstad Higher fill rate is more business. higher fill rate is more business No-shows reduced is more business. no-shows reduced is more business Fill rate up is happier clients. fill rate up is happier clients Fill rate up is happier talent. fill rate up is happier talent Of course, efficiency, productivity because there is no human intervention. of course efficiency productivity because there is no human intervention The client types in their own shift. the client types in their own shift Talent selects their own shift. talent selects their own shift That means zero marginal cost if there's more demand, meaning ramp up is a lot easier because we have the talent there. that means zero marginal cost if there's more demand meaning ramp up is a lot easier because we have the talent there The client decides that they need 10 or 20 people more. the client decides that they need 10 or 20 people more The next day, we put the shifts on the marketplace. the next day we put the shifts on the marketplace It all works. it all works I'm absolutely convinced that our growth rate in U.S. i'm absolutely convinced that our growth rate in u.s Operational this quarter is driven in part by the fact that we have a digital marketplace. operational this quarter is driven in part by the fact that we have a digital marketplace Because when the market ramps up, you need to be quick. If you have the talent already there, then it's just a matter of filling shifts through the digital marketplace. It's all good. In terms of what does this mean for our business, so we have 15% of our business now on digital marketplaces, roughly EUR 4 billion. You have to think about EUR 3 billion of that is Operational, and EUR 1 billion of that is in our Professional space in Randstad Digital in North America. This year is going to be a year of rollout, so where we start in a number of new markets, I mentioned a few of them already, so that next year we can scale. By the end of the year, we're looking at 22% of our business through digital marketplaces. Because when the market ramps up, you need to be quick. because when the market ramps up you need to be quick If you have the talent already there, then it's just a matter of filling shifts through the digital marketplace. if you have the talent already there then it's just a matter of filling shifts through the digital marketplace It's all good. it's all good In terms of what does this mean for our business, so we have 15% of our business now on digital marketplaces, roughly EUR 4 billion. in terms of what does this mean for our business so we have 15% of our business now on digital marketplaces roughly eur 4 billion You have to think about EUR 3 billion of that is Operational, and EUR 1 billion of that is in our Professional space in Randstad Digital in North America. you have to think about eur 3 billion of that is operational and eur 1 billion of that is in our professional space in randstad digital in north america This year is going to be a year of rollout, so where we start in a number of new markets, I mentioned a few of them already, so that next year we can scale. this year is going to be a year of rollout so where we start in a number of new markets i mentioned a few of them already so that next year we can scale By the end of the year, we're looking at 22% of our business through digital marketplaces. by the end of the year we're looking at 22% of our business through digital marketplaces Last but not least, the excitement that this is creating within Randstad is quite phenomenal because our people see that they are differentiated in the marketplace. We have more and more clients saying, "We want to do business with Randstad because you have the digital marketplace that's easy for us," but it also means it is access to talent because talent lives in the digital world, not in a branch, or somewhere else. It's exciting for our people because we have something new, we have something exciting, we're differentiated, and it works very well. You can guess I'm really excited about all of this and cannot go fast enough as far as I'm concerned. Last but not least, the excitement that this is creating within Randstad is quite phenomenal because our people see that they are differentiated in the marketplace. last but not least the excitement that this is creating within randstad is quite phenomenal because our people see that they are differentiated in the marketplace We have more and more clients saying, "We want to do business with Randstad because you have the digital marketplace that's easy for us," but it also means it is access to talent because talent lives in the digital world, not in a branch, or somewhere else. we have more and more clients saying "we want to do business with randstad because you have the digital marketplace that's easy for us," but it also means it is access to talent because talent lives in the digital world not in a branch or somewhere else It's exciting for our people because we have something new, we have something exciting, we're differentiated, and it works very well. it's exciting for our people because we have something new we have something exciting we're differentiated and it works very well You can guess I'm really excited about all of this and cannot go fast enough as far as I'm concerned. you can guess i'm really excited about all of this and cannot go fast enough as far as i'm concerned

Speaker 7: Yeah. No, thanks for that. That's lots of detail. Thank you. Thanks very much. I just want to follow up if I can. It's maybe to link this DMP to what you talked about on slide eight, where you talked about AI in the world of work at a broad level, but maybe not about how AI could reshape the channel of connecting labor demand and supply. Do you think, and do you hear that clients are engaging with maybe lots of different digital marketplaces for types of labor or channels? And what do you think happens to the kind of landscape of that labor supply as a result? Yeah. yeah No, thanks for that. no thanks for that That's lots of detail. that's lots of detail Thank you. thank you Thanks very much. thanks very much I just want to follow up if I can. i just want to follow up if i can It's maybe to link this DMP to what you talked about on slide eight, where you talked about AI in the world of work at a broad level, but maybe not about how AI could reshape the channel of connecting labor demand and supply. it's maybe to link this dmp to what you talked about on slide eight where you talked about ai in the world of work at a broad level but maybe not about how ai could reshape the channel of connecting labor demand and supply Do you think, and do you hear that clients are engaging with maybe lots of different digital marketplaces for types of labor or channels? do you think and do you hear that clients are engaging with maybe lots of different digital marketplaces for types of labor or channels And what do you think happens to the kind of landscape of that labor supply as a result? and what do you think happens to the kind of landscape of that labor supply as a result

Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a good question. If you add up, Rory, the market share of all digital native companies combined in our space, the numbers that I've seen, they have a combined market share of around 5%, and that's the likes of Professional marketplaces, Freelance marketplaces, and let's say Operational marketplaces for your waiter or for your nurse. The digital phenomenon in our industry is still relatively small. That means there's a massive opportunity for us at Randstad to scale and to take share over time, because not all players will be able to implement a digital marketplace at the scale that we can. First of all, because it's hard work, but secondly, you need the expertise, but secondly, it's also big investments, and we are fortunate enough to have a strong balance sheet so we can afford those investments. Yeah, that's a good question. yeah that's a good question If you add up, Rory, the market share of all digital native companies combined in our space, the numbers that I've seen, they have a combined market share of around 5%, and that's the likes of Professional marketplaces, Freelance marketplaces, and let's say Operational marketplaces for your waiter or for your nurse. if you add up rory the market share of all digital native companies combined in our space the numbers that i've seen they have a combined market share of around 5% and that's the likes of professional marketplaces freelance marketplaces and let's say operational marketplaces for your waiter or for your nurse The digital phenomenon in our industry is still relatively small. the digital phenomenon in our industry is still relatively small That means there's a massive opportunity for us at Randstad to scale and to take share over time, because not all players will be able to implement a digital marketplace at the scale that we can. that means there's a massive opportunity for us at randstad to scale and to take share over time because not all players will be able to implement a digital marketplace at the scale that we can First of all, because it's hard work, but secondly, you need the expertise, but secondly, it's also big investments, and we are fortunate enough to have a strong balance sheet so we can afford those investments. first of all because it's hard work but secondly you need the expertise but secondly it's also big investments and we are fortunate enough to have a strong balance sheet so we can afford those investments It's going to be an interesting time in terms of digitizing the industry. It's going to be an interesting time in terms of digitizing the industry. it's going to be an interesting time in terms of digitizing the industry

Speaker 7: Great. Thanks again. Great. great Thanks again. thanks again

Speaker 6: The next question comes from Simon Lechipre from Jefferies. Simon, go ahead. The next question comes from Simon Lechipre from Jefferies. the next question comes from simon lechipre from jefferies Simon, go ahead. simon go ahead

Speaker 9: Simon? Simon? simon

Speaker 3: Simon? Simon? simon

Speaker 9: Let's take the next one, Bart-Jan. Let's take the next one, Bart-Jan. let's take the next one bart-jan

Speaker 10: Good morning. Can you hear me? Good morning. good morning Can you hear me? can you hear me

Speaker 9: Yeah. Okay. Sorry, Simon. We were looking for you, but we couldn't hear you. Yeah. yeah Okay. okay Sorry, Simon. sorry simon We were looking for you, but we couldn't hear you. we were looking for you but we couldn't hear you

Speaker 10: Sorry. Yeah. Good morning. First question on the gross margin for Temp. I was a bit surprised to see the performance getting incrementally worse despite the better top line. Can you give us a bit more color on the different moving parts and what does that mean about the drivers of this better top line? Thank you. Sorry. sorry Yeah. yeah Good morning. good morning First question on the gross margin for Temp. first question on the gross margin for temp I was a bit surprised to see the performance getting incrementally worse despite the better top line. i was a bit surprised to see the performance getting incrementally worse despite the better top line Can you give us a bit more color on the different moving parts and what does that mean about the drivers of this better top line? can you give us a bit more color on the different moving parts and what does that mean about the drivers of this better top line Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Thank you, Simon. I think, we had spent some time on Q4. We had already highlighted that we should look basically at the two quarters, Q4 and Q1 together. We actually think, let's say gross margin came in well, right in the middle of our expectations, and Temp margin as well. I would say in Q4, we had 40 basis points. If you remember in Q1, we now have 60 basis points. We said it was impacted by incidental items last year between Q4 2024 and Q1 2025. I'll take the underlying run between both, about approximately 40 basis points. The good thing is it came within our expectations, and we now see it basically seeing stabilizing and many of those movements starting to annualize as we go into the later quarters of the year. Thank you, Simon. thank you simon I think, we had spent some time on Q4. i think we had spent some time on q4 We had already highlighted that we should look basically at the two quarters, Q4 and Q1 together. we had already highlighted that we should look basically at the two quarters q4 and q1 together We actually think, let's say gross margin came in well, right in the middle of our expectations, and Temp margin as well. we actually think let's say gross margin came in well right in the middle of our expectations and temp margin as well I would say in Q4, we had 40 basis points. i would say in q4 we had 40 basis points If you remember in Q1, we now have 60 basis points. if you remember in q1 we now have 60 basis points We said it was impacted by incidental items last year between Q4 2024 and Q1 2025. we said it was impacted by incidental items last year between q4 2024 and q1 2025 I'll take the underlying run between both, about approximately 40 basis points. i'll take the underlying run between both about approximately 40 basis points The good thing is it came within our expectations, and we now see it basically seeing stabilizing and many of those movements starting to annualize as we go into the later quarters of the year. the good thing is it came within our expectations and we now see it basically seeing stabilizing and many of those movements starting to annualize as we go into the later quarters of the year

Speaker 10: Okay. A follow-up on Netherlands, and obviously quite a step-up in top line, but it seemed like the drop-through was quite weak with margin declining year-on-year. Can you give us the details behind this performance, please? Okay. okay A follow-up on Netherlands, and obviously quite a step-up in top line, but it seemed like the drop-through was quite weak with margin declining year-on-year. a follow-up on netherlands and obviously quite a step-up in top line but it seemed like the drop-through was quite weak with margin declining year-on-year Can you give us the details behind this performance, please? can you give us the details behind this performance please

Speaker 3: Yeah. If you look at the 4.4%, that is probably quite the run rate also comparing to the last quarters. I just thought as well that we had last year incidentals that were particularly in the Netherlands associated with sickness and how basically we started normalizing for higher sickness rates over the last two to three years. I think if we take that into account, I think things are pretty stable in the Netherlands and definitely even I would argue versus Q4 it's slightly up. Yeah. Yeah. yeah If you look at the 4.4%, that is probably quite the run rate also comparing to the last quarters. if you look at the 4.4% that is probably quite the run rate also comparing to the last quarters I just thought as well that we had last year incidentals that were particularly in the Netherlands associated with sickness and how basically we started normalizing for higher sickness rates over the last two to three years. i just thought as well that we had last year incidentals that were particularly in the netherlands associated with sickness and how basically we started normalizing for higher sickness rates over the last two to three years I think if we take that into account, I think things are pretty stable in the Netherlands and definitely even I would argue versus Q4 it's slightly up. i think if we take that into account i think things are pretty stable in the netherlands and definitely even i would argue versus q4 it's slightly up Yeah. yeah

Speaker 10: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 6: The next question comes from Simon van Oppen. Simon, go ahead. The next question comes from Simon van Oppen. the next question comes from simon van oppen Simon, go ahead. simon go ahead

Speaker 11: Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my question. Could you give us a little bit more color on your working capital in Q1? We saw free cash flow was a -EUR 100 million versus EUR 60 million last year end we understand that H1 is usually seasonally light in terms of cash inflow, and that staffing companies tend to absorb working capital as they grow. We noticed that DSO increased year-on-year to 57.4 days versus 55 days last year, which is quite a step-up, especially since one might assume you're dealing with broadly similar country and mix effects as peers who seem to manage to bring DSO down while growing faster. Any thoughts on what's behind the difference would be helpful. Thank you. Good morning, gentlemen. good morning gentlemen Thank you for taking my question. thank you for taking my question Could you give us a little bit more color on your working capital in Q1? could you give us a little bit more color on your working capital in q1 We saw free cash flow was a -EUR 100 million versus EUR 60 million last year e nd we understand that H1 is usually seasonally light in terms of cash inflow, and that staffing companies tend to absorb working capital as they grow. we saw free cash flow was a -eur 100 million versus eur 60 million last year e nd we understand that h1 is usually seasonally light in terms of cash inflow and that staffing companies tend to absorb working capital as they grow We noticed that DSO increased year-on-year to 57.4 days versus 55 days last year, which is quite a step-up, especially since one might assume you're dealing with broadly similar country and mix effects as peers who seem to manage to bring DSO down while growing faster. we noticed that dso increased year-on-year to 57.4 days versus 55 days last year which is quite a step-up especially since one might assume you're dealing with broadly similar country and mix effects as peers who seem to manage to bring dso down while growing faster Any thoughts on what's behind the difference would be helpful. any thoughts on what's behind the difference would be helpful Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Yeah. Thanks, Simon. First of all, indeed, the fact that it's negative, I think it's been like 2018, 2019, to probably 2024. The Q1 is always a quarter heavily impacted by working capital, typical investments. That has to do, as I mentioned earlier on, with all wage taxes, payments, VAT, but also commissions, bonus payouts, and even especially as we have a lot of software licenses, prepayment of a lot of licenses. That is the normal, let's say, impact. What we did have this year is we had a higher, let's say, a delay on invoicing in the Netherlands. That, especially compared to last year, takes an impact. In January, we were late by approximately EUR 40 million-EUR 50 million in invoicing, and that spills over into next quarter. That's to do with implementation here in the Netherlands of the new CLA legislation. Yeah. yeah Thanks, Simon. thanks simon First of all, indeed, the fact that it's negative, I think it's been like 2018, 2019, to probably 2024. first of all indeed the fact that it's negative i think it's been like 2018 2019 to probably 2024 The Q1 is always a quarter heavily impacted by working capital, typical investments. the q1 is always a quarter heavily impacted by working capital typical investments That has to do, as I mentioned earlier on, with all wage taxes, payments, VAT, but also commissions, bonus payouts, and even especially as we have a lot of software licenses, prepayment of a lot of licenses. that has to do as i mentioned earlier on with all wage taxes payments vat but also commissions bonus payouts and even especially as we have a lot of software licenses prepayment of a lot of licenses That is the normal, let's say, impact. that is the normal let's say impact What we did have this year is we had a higher, let's say, a delay on invoicing in the Netherlands. what we did have this year is we had a higher let's say a delay on invoicing in the netherlands That, especially compared to last year, takes an impact. that especially compared to last year takes an impact In January, we were late by approximately EUR 40 million-EUR 50 million in invoicing, and that spills over into next quarter. in january we were late by approximately eur 40 million-eur 50 million in invoicing and that spills over into next quarter That's to do with implementation here in the Netherlands of the new CLA legislation. that's to do with implementation here in the netherlands of the new cla legislation That is solved, so basically to normalize now as we go into the year. If you ask compared to last year as well, you will remember we had a quite, let's say, low free cash flow generation in Q4 2024. That came primarily because the end of the year had finished in the weekend. We got a lot of, let's say, payments that were late paid into the first days of January last year. That plays a little bit the comparison versus last year. I think in terms of trajectory for cash, we remain unchanged throughout the year. Now, comparing to our competitors, look, DSO is not an established metric, so everyone uses their own definition. At the same time, I think what we do see is, of course, our divergence in mix is quite significant. That is solved, so basically to normalize now as we go into the year. that is solved so basically to normalize now as we go into the year If you ask compared to last year as well, you will remember we had a quite, let's say, low free cash flow generation in Q4 2024. if you ask compared to last year as well you will remember we had a quite let's say low free cash flow generation in q4 2024 That came primarily because the end of the year had finished in the weekend. that came primarily because the end of the year had finished in the weekend We got a lot of, let's say, payments that were late paid into the first days of January last year. we got a lot of let's say payments that were late paid into the first days of january last year That plays a little bit the comparison versus last year. that plays a little bit the comparison versus last year I think in terms of trajectory for cash, we remain unchanged throughout the year. i think in terms of trajectory for cash we remain unchanged throughout the year Now, comparing to our competitors, look, DSO is not an established metric, so everyone uses their own definition. now comparing to our competitors look dso is not an established metric so everyone uses their own definition At the same time, I think what we do see is, of course, our divergence in mix is quite significant. at the same time i think what we do see is of course our divergence in mix is quite significant Yeah, if we have Italy and Spain outgrowing and growing more than the market, that will play a role in our DSO. We see our overdues continuing to decrease. We see credit losses even at historical lows. To be honest, I'm quite confident on the DSO, on the cash trajectory. Yeah, if we have Italy and Spain outgrowing and growing more than the market, that will play a role in our DSO. yeah if we have italy and spain outgrowing and growing more than the market that will play a role in our dso We see our overdues continuing to decrease. we see our overdues continuing to decrease We see credit losses even at historical lows. we see credit losses even at historical lows To be honest, I'm quite confident on the DSO, on the cash trajectory. to be honest i'm quite confident on the dso on the cash trajectory

Speaker 11: Okay. Thank you very much. That's helpful. Okay. okay Thank you very much. thank you very much That's helpful. that's helpful

Speaker 6: The next question comes from Marc Zwartsenburg from ING. Marc, go ahead. The next question comes from Marc Zwartsenburg from ING. the next question comes from marc zwartsenburg from ing Marc, go ahead. marc go ahead

Speaker 5: Yeah. Good morning, Sander. Good morning, Jorge. I would like to ask a question about the regional margins. A couple of regions. First of all, the Netherlands, you just explained a bit that there is a bit of normalization with sickness rates and that the margin is a bit lower. Yeah, on the other hand, we also have the new regulation in place with better pricing, and we have software doing really well. Maybe a few thoughts on how we should look at the margin going forward for the Netherlands. If I look then to region North America, with also weaker Enterprise and the benefits from the digital marketplace, should we expect at some point that you will see quite some positive operational leverage in North America? Yeah. yeah Good morning, Sander. good morning sander Good morning, Jorge. good morning jorge I would like to ask a question about the regional margins. i would like to ask a question about the regional margins A couple of regions. a couple of regions First of all, the Netherlands, you just explained a bit that there is a bit of normalization with sickness rates and that the margin is a bit lower. first of all the netherlands you just explained a bit that there is a bit of normalization with sickness rates and that the margin is a bit lower Yeah, on the other hand, we also have the new regulation in place with better pricing, and we have software doing really well. yeah on the other hand we also have the new regulation in place with better pricing and we have software doing really well Maybe a few thoughts on how we should look at the margin going forward for the Netherlands. maybe a few thoughts on how we should look at the margin going forward for the netherlands If I look then to region North America, with also weaker Enterprise and the benefits from the digital marketplace, should we expect at some point that you will see quite some positive operational leverage in North America? if i look then to region north america with also weaker enterprise and the benefits from the digital marketplace should we expect at some point that you will see quite some positive operational leverage in north america

Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. yeah

Speaker 5: Two other regions, France and Italy, they're growing very fast, but we don't see a drop through. Can you maybe explain a bit why that is? Two other regions, France and Italy, they're growing very fast, but we don't see a drop through. two other regions france and italy they're growing very fast but we don't see a drop through Can you maybe explain a bit why that is? can you maybe explain a bit why that is

Speaker 3: Yeah. First of all. Yeah. yeah First of all. first of all

Speaker 5: For those four regions, please. Yeah. For those four regions, please. for those four regions please Yeah. yeah

Speaker 3: If I had a short answer, good to speak to you, Marc. If I had a short answer, I'll say yes, so it will be the short one. What I mean by this is, clearly, we don't optimize for a quarter. There were a few timing events this quarter. Now, as we go from the lowest seasonal quarter of the year into the highest seasonal quarters, Q2, Q3, it's very clear. Countries where we are growing, we're going to deliver operational gearing. That's basically what we can see happening from both, let's say, productivity that Sander alluded to before, plus everything else we've been doing in reducing structural costs. I'm quite confident, let's say, that we're going to be delivering gearing in the countries where we have growth. If I had a short answer, good to speak to you, Marc. if i had a short answer good to speak to you marc If I had a short answer, I'll say yes, so it will be the short one. if i had a short answer i'll say yes so it will be the short one What I mean by this is, clearly, we don't optimize for a quarter. what i mean by this is clearly we don't optimize for a quarter There were a few timing events this quarter. there were a few timing events this quarter Now, as we go from the lowest seasonal quarter of the year into the highest seasonal quarters, Q2, Q3, it's very clear. now as we go from the lowest seasonal quarter of the year into the highest seasonal quarters q2 q3 it's very clear Countries where we are growing, we're going to deliver operational gearing. countries where we are growing we're going to deliver operational gearing That's basically what we can see happening from both, let's say, productivity that Sander alluded to before, plus everything else we've been doing in reducing structural costs. that's basically what we can see happening from both let's say productivity that sander alluded to before plus everything else we've been doing in reducing structural costs I'm quite confident, let's say, that we're going to be delivering gearing in the countries where we have growth. i'm quite confident let's say that we're going to be delivering gearing in the countries where we have growth On the ones where we're not, we're working hard to basically keep on improving, making them more agile, more resilient, and making sure that they may also make a step up. From that perspective is the short answer. In the Netherlands, I want to be a little bit clear. The regulation, from a gross margin perspective, it might be dilutive as well. I wouldn't call it. There is a lot of additional costs that have to be passed to client. That's the end impact in our margin. Let's say, the first pressure will be a dilutive pressure in margin. Now, we've also been adjusting our cost base in the Netherlands. You saw the one-offs this quarter, primarily related to the Netherlands. We are also starting to see about how to basically step up in profitability. On the ones where we're not, we're working hard to basically keep on improving, making them more agile, more resilient, and making sure that they may also make a step up. on the ones where we're not we're working hard to basically keep on improving making them more agile more resilient and making sure that they may also make a step up From that perspective is the short answer. from that perspective is the short answer In the Netherlands, I want to be a little bit clear. in the netherlands i want to be a little bit clear The regulation, from a gross margin perspective, it might be dilutive as well. the regulation from a gross margin perspective it might be dilutive as well I wouldn't call it. i wouldn't call it There is a lot of additional costs that have to be passed to client. there is a lot of additional costs that have to be passed to client That's the end impact in our margin. that's the end impact in our margin Let's say, the first pressure will be a dilutive pressure in margin. let's say the first pressure will be a dilutive pressure in margin Now, we've also been adjusting our cost base in the Netherlands. now we've also been adjusting our cost base in the netherlands You saw the one-offs this quarter, primarily related to the Netherlands. you saw the one-offs this quarter primarily related to the netherlands We are also starting to see about how to basically step up in profitability. we are also starting to see about how to basically step up in profitability For now, I would say this level of profit is going 4%-5%. Yeah. For now, I would say this level of profit is going 4%-5%. for now i would say this level of profit is going 4%-5% Yeah. yeah

Speaker 5: In Italy and in Spain, where you're growing so fast. In Italy and in Spain, where you're growing so fast. in italy and in spain where you're growing so fast

Speaker 3: Yeah. Good point. Yeah. yeah Good point. good point

Speaker 5: We don't see really operational leverage there. We don't see really operational leverage there. we don't see really operational leverage there

Speaker 3: Yeah. I also watch this space. Again, I told you there was some timing issues this quarter. In Italy in particular, we've been investing. We had an important marketing campaign this quarter, in concreto in Q1, associated with the Olympics. We also have been investing in our, let's say, the rollout of our platform that Sander just has been describing. In Spain, we can see we continue to add that count year-over-year. We've been investing, and we continue to grow ahead of markets. I'm quite confident these countries will be showing operational gearing throughout the year. Yeah. yeah I also watch this space. i also watch this space Again, I told you there was some timing issues this quarter. again i told you there was some timing issues this quarter In Italy in particular, we've been investing. in italy in particular we've been investing We had an important marketing campaign this quarter, in concreto in Q1, associated with the Olympics. we had an important marketing campaign this quarter in concreto in q1 associated with the olympics We also have been investing in our, let's say, the rollout of our platform that Sander just has been describing. we also have been investing in our let's say the rollout of our platform that sander just has been describing In Spain, we can see we continue to add that count year-over-year. in spain we can see we continue to add that count year-over-year We've been investing, and we continue to grow ahead of markets. we've been investing and we continue to grow ahead of markets I'm quite confident these countries will be showing operational gearing throughout the year. i'm quite confident these countries will be showing operational gearing throughout the year

Speaker 5: Right. That's very clear. U.S., is there any benefits at some point that we should see? Right. right That's very clear. that's very clear U.S., is there any benefits at some point that we should see? u.s is there any benefits at some point that we should see

Speaker 3: Yeah. The U.S.- Yeah. yeah The U.S.- the u.s.-

Speaker 5: marketplace? marketplace? marketplace

Speaker 3: The U.S., I think the marketplace has some investments, but as we progress into Q2, the same. Partially, there was an impact on Enterprise. We started the year somewhat subdued. Again, Sander talked about pipeline, we talked about client implementations. All in all, if I look ahead, it's about also showing operational gearing. The U.S., I think the marketplace has some investments, but as we progress into Q2, the same. the u.s i think the marketplace has some investments but as we progress into q2 the same Partially, there was an impact on Enterprise. partially there was an impact on enterprise We started the year somewhat subdued. we started the year somewhat subdued Again, Sander talked about pipeline, we talked about client implementations. again sander talked about pipeline we talked about client implementations All in all, if I look ahead, it's about also showing operational gearing. all in all if i look ahead it's about also showing operational gearing

Speaker 5: Okay. All right. That's it. Thank you very much. Okay. okay All right. all right That's it. that's it Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 3: Cheers. Cheers. cheers

Speaker 6: The next- The next- the next-

Speaker 3: Thanks. Thanks. thanks

Speaker 6: The next question comes from James Rowland Clark from Barclays. James, go ahead. The next question comes from James Rowland Clark from Barclays. the next question comes from james rowland clark from barclays James, go ahead. james go ahead

Speaker 2: Hi. Thank you. Two questions, please. On the marketplace that you were just discussing, do you think that's resulting in any new client conversations at this point, or simply just better client conversations, more engagement? And then also on a similar topic, can you provide any color as to the profit line benefit from the marketplace at this point in Q1, maybe on an annualized basis, if possible? And then my second area of questions is just on the gross margin that you sort of suggested should ease through the year. I'm just curious as to how you think that plays out, because it looks like the lower margin regions in the temp business are set to continue to outperform the higher margin regions. So just interested in your thoughts there and what you need to see in order for that mix effect to ease substantially. Thank you. Hi. hi Thank you. thank you Two questions, please. two questions please On the marketplace that you were just discussing, do you think that's resulting in any new client conversations at this point, or simply just better client conversations, more engagement? on the marketplace that you were just discussing do you think that's resulting in any new client conversations at this point or simply just better client conversations more engagement And then also on a similar topic, can you provide any color as to the profit line benefit from the marketplace at this point in Q1, maybe on an annualized basis, if possible? and then also on a similar topic can you provide any color as to the profit line benefit from the marketplace at this point in q1 maybe on an annualized basis if possible And then my second area of questions is just on the gross margin that you sort of suggested should ease through the year. and then my second area of questions is just on the gross margin that you sort of suggested should ease through the year I'm just curious as to how you think that plays out, because it looks like the lower margin regions in the temp business are set to continue to outperform the higher margin regions. i'm just curious as to how you think that plays out because it looks like the lower margin regions in the temp business are set to continue to outperform the higher margin regions So just interested in your thoughts there and what you need to see in order for that mix effect to ease substantially. so just interested in your thoughts there and what you need to see in order for that mix effect to ease substantially Thank you. thank you

Speaker 9: Thank you very much, James. On the marketplaces, that's absolutely driving new client conversations. In fact, I'm personally out there with Mark and Jen and our commercial team in North America to have those client conversations with some of the big logistics companies, some of the big service companies in catering, et cetera. They all are interested in hearing about what we call the digital talent supply chain. Because these clients generally are very much into digitization of their business, of their logistics, of their procurement, of their sales to clients. The talent supply chain is sort of somewhat behind in terms of digitization, and that's what we offer. That means that we talked about it, higher fulfillment, but also a lot more transparency, compliance, and I would say analytics and optimization opportunities in that workforce. Thank you very much, James. thank you very much james On the marketplaces, that's absolutely driving new client conversations. on the marketplaces that's absolutely driving new client conversations In fact, I'm personally out there with Mark and Jen and our commercial team in North America to have those client conversations with some of the big logistics companies, some of the big service companies in catering, et cetera. in fact i'm personally out there with mark and jen and our commercial team in north america to have those client conversations with some of the big logistics companies some of the big service companies in catering et cetera They all are interested in hearing about what we call the digital talent supply chain. they all are interested in hearing about what we call the digital talent supply chain Because these clients generally are very much into digitization of their business, of their logistics, of their procurement, of their sales to clients. because these clients generally are very much into digitization of their business of their logistics of their procurement of their sales to clients The talent supply chain is sort of somewhat behind in terms of digitization, and that's what we offer. the talent supply chain is sort of somewhat behind in terms of digitization and that's what we offer That means that we talked about it, higher fulfillment, but also a lot more transparency, compliance, and I would say analytics and optimization opportunities in that workforce. that means that we talked about it higher fulfillment but also a lot more transparency compliance and i would say analytics and optimization opportunities in that workforce Yes, benefits at a high level, and I'll ask Jorge to say a bit more detail. Higher productivity, because we have more employees working per FTE in Randstad. That's definitely one of the major benefits. The other benefit is higher fulfillment, because higher fulfillment sooner means more business tomorrow. That's pretty much how that works. Yes, benefits at a high level, and I'll ask Jorge to say a bit more detail. yes benefits at a high level and i'll ask jorge to say a bit more detail Higher productivity, because we have more employees working per FTE in Randstad. higher productivity because we have more employees working per fte in randstad That's definitely one of the major benefits. that's definitely one of the major benefits The other benefit is higher fulfillment, because higher fulfillment sooner means more business tomorrow. the other benefit is higher fulfillment because higher fulfillment sooner means more business tomorrow That's pretty much how that works. that's pretty much how that works I think overall it's hard to tell at this particular point in time. I will tell you that it is a work in progress, and the team here is working hard on getting more insights into that because we want to start sketching the picture of the new Randstad, including the economics over the next couple of quarters. I think overall it's hard to tell at this particular point in time. i think overall it's hard to tell at this particular point in time I will tell you that it is a work in progress, and the team here is working hard on getting more insights into that because we want to start sketching the picture of the new Randstad, including the economics over the next couple of quarters. i will tell you that it is a work in progress and the team here is working hard on getting more insights into that because we want to start sketching the picture of the new randstad including the economics over the next couple of quarters

Speaker 3: Yeah. James, just putting some numbers to it. You see our fill rate has been, let's say, increasing 1%. This makes a difference in revenue, so it sustains more revenue growth. Our eW4FT, I talked about it at the beginning on my opening, but they are probably now up 6%-7% year-over-year. We're now starting to pre-validate a lot of the set of talent to talent centers, meaning when our talent advisors need talent, they are faster with clients. There's one point, Sander, I would like to highlight, if you actually spend time with the teams, redeployment. Yeah. yeah James, just putting some numbers to it. james just putting some numbers to it You see our fill rate has been, let's say, increasing 1%. you see our fill rate has been let's say increasing 1% This makes a difference in revenue, so it sustains more revenue growth. this makes a difference in revenue so it sustains more revenue growth Our eW4FT, I talked about it at the beginning on my opening, but they are probably now up 6%-7% year-over-year. our ew4ft i talked about it at the beginning on my opening but they are probably now up 6%-7% year-over-year We're now starting to pre-validate a lot of the set of talent to talent centers, meaning when our talent advisors need talent, they are faster with clients. we're now starting to pre-validate a lot of the set of talent to talent centers meaning when our talent advisors need talent they are faster with clients There's one point, Sander, I would like to highlight, if you actually spend time with the teams, redeployment. there's one point sander i would like to highlight if you actually spend time with the teams redeployment Because the beauty of let's say if you are in the Randstad family and you choose your next shift or next appointment, your next job, then a lot of the redeployment becomes easier and we have less setup costs in making a set of transition from job to job, which also enables clients to plan better and organize themselves better. Overall, supportive, especially now as we move into the more seasonally rich quarters. Let me break down a little bit because I think it's connected to the question of Simon, your second question, so on the margin. If I look ahead, we finished Q1, we just talked about it, with a Temp margin down approximately 60 basis points or delta 80. If we look ahead, we're probably looking more, as we can see, 50 basis points year-over-year in Q2. Because the beauty of let's say if you are in the Randstad family and you choose your next shift or next appointment, your next job, then a lot of the redeployment becomes easier and we have less setup costs in making a set of transition from job to job, which also enables clients to plan better and organize themselves better. because the beauty of let's say if you are in the randstad family and you choose your next shift or next appointment your next job then a lot of the redeployment becomes easier and we have less setup costs in making a set of transition from job to job which also enables clients to plan better and organize themselves better Overall, supportive, especially now as we move into the more seasonally rich quarters. overall supportive especially now as we move into the more seasonally rich quarters Let me break down a little bit because I think it's connected to the question of Simon, your second question, so on the margin. let me break down a little bit because i think it's connected to the question of simon your second question so on the margin If I look ahead, we finished Q1, we just talked about it, with a Temp margin down approximately 60 basis points or delta 80. if i look ahead we finished q1 we just talked about it with a temp margin down approximately 60 basis points or delta 80 If we look ahead, we're probably looking more, as we can see, 50 basis points year-over-year in Q2. if we look ahead we're probably looking more as we can see 50 basis points year-over-year in q2 That will mean still 30 basis points-40 basis points down in Q2 now. Year-over-year. Remember, it is a seasonal quarter, so clearly more volume clients trading. It's also a smaller quarter in terms of working days. If I compare it to Q1, where I would say it's probably about 45 basis points +15 FX, the other impact here is we start annualizing FX. This should now start stabilizing at 30 basis points-40 basis points. We still expect 10 basis points- from HRS. The volume in RPO is still weak. Not strangely, if you look at what's happening in PERM, though, we are counting on some new clients being activated as well, so to be seen. PERM remains, for now we have 10 basis points, but a bit of the wild card in the equation. That will mean still 30 basis points-40 basis points down in Q2 now. that will mean still 30 basis points-40 basis points down in q2 now Year-over-year. year-over-year Remember, it is a seasonal quarter, so clearly more volume clients trading. remember it is a seasonal quarter so clearly more volume clients trading It's also a smaller quarter in terms of working days. it's also a smaller quarter in terms of working days If I compare it to Q1, where I would say it's probably about 45 basis points +15 FX, the other impact here is we start annualizing FX. if i compare it to q1 where i would say it's probably about 45 basis points +15 fx the other impact here is we start annualizing fx This should now start stabilizing at 30 basis points-40 basis points. this should now start stabilizing at 30 basis points-40 basis points We still expect 10 basis points - from HRS. we still expect 10 basis points - from hrs The volume in RPO is still weak. the volume in rpo is still weak Not strangely, if you look at what's happening in PERM, though, we are counting on some new clients being activated as well, so to be seen. not strangely if you look at what's happening in perm though we are counting on some new clients being activated as well so to be seen PERM remains, for now we have 10 basis points, but a bit of the wild card in the equation. perm remains for now we have 10 basis points but a bit of the wild card in the equation Overall, let's say from the 80 today, we're now looking at 50. As we continue throughout the year, what is also obviously some of the bigger shifts we talked about, geographic shifts, client shifts, this is basically start annualizing. Basically start reducing throughout the year. Overall, let's say from the 80 today, we're now looking at 50. overall let's say from the 80 today we're now looking at 50 As we continue throughout the year, what is also obviously some of the bigger shifts we talked about, geographic shifts, client shifts, this is basically start annualizing. as we continue throughout the year what is also obviously some of the bigger shifts we talked about geographic shifts client shifts this is basically start annualizing Basically start reducing throughout the year. basically start reducing throughout the year

Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 3: Yeah. Thank you. Good question, James. Yeah. yeah Thank you. thank you Good question, James. good question james

Speaker 6: Our next question comes from Virginia Montorsi from Bank of America. Virginia, go ahead. Our next question comes from Virginia Montorsi from Bank of America. our next question comes from virginia montorsi from bank of america Virginia, go ahead. virginia go ahead

Speaker 12: Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Just a quick one. Is there anything worth flagging in the quarter that has either surprised you or performed in a way that you didn't expect that you think it's worth keeping in mind, or did everything kind of play out according to your expectations, if we think about beginning of the year to where we are now? Thank you. Good morning. good morning Thank you for taking my questions. thank you for taking my questions Just a quick one. just a quick one Is there anything worth flagging in the quarter that has either surprised you or performed in a way that you didn't expect that you think it's worth keeping in mind, or did everything kind of play out according to your expectations, if we think about beginning of the year to where we are now? is there anything worth flagging in the quarter that has either surprised you or performed in a way that you didn't expect that you think it's worth keeping in mind or did everything kind of play out according to your expectations if we think about beginning of the year to where we are now Thank you. thank you

Speaker 9: Yeah. I'm thinking deeply, Virginia. It's a good question, but I'm afraid the answer is no. Let's say we said there was going to be a step up in the quarter in last call. That's what's happened. Of course, you have always a put and a take here and there, but nothing major to report here. Yeah. yeah I'm thinking deeply, Virginia. i'm thinking deeply virginia It's a good question, but I'm afraid the answer is no. it's a good question but i'm afraid the answer is no Let's say we said there was going to be a step up in the quarter in last call. let's say we said there was going to be a step up in the quarter in last call That's what's happened. that's what's happened Of course, you have always a put and a take here and there, but nothing major to report here. of course you have always a put and a take here and there but nothing major to report here

Speaker 3: Yeah. Agreed. Nothing. Yeah. yeah Agreed. agreed Nothing. nothing

Speaker 12: Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. okay Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 3: Thank you, Virginia, and welcome. Thank you, Virginia, and welcome. thank you virginia and welcome

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Speaker 4: Hi, good morning. A question on your productivity. You've made good progress over the last few quarters and you're on the verge of actually capturing some operating leverage again. How much revenue growth do you think you could potentially achieve in the second half of this year if you were to decide to keep your headcount stable? Is that 1% or 2% or maybe 5%, particularly given what you are doing with AI and your digital marketplace? Hi, good morning. hi good morning A question on your productivity. a question on your productivity You've made good progress over the last few quarters and you're on the verge of actually capturing some operating leverage again. you've made good progress over the last few quarters and you're on the verge of actually capturing some operating leverage again How much revenue growth do you think you could potentially achieve in the second half of this year if you were to decide to keep your headcount stable? how much revenue growth do you think you could potentially achieve in the second half of this year if you were to decide to keep your headcount stable Is that 1% or 2% or maybe 5%, particularly given what you are doing with AI and your digital marketplace? is that 1% or 2% or maybe 5% particularly given what you are doing with ai and your digital marketplace

Speaker 3: Yeah. Konrad, good to speak to you. I'll say, first of all, second half of the year, you know the six-week rule. First and foremost, I think we feel confident with the capacity we have now to support already the seasonal next big quarter, which is Q2. We don't expect FT investments to cope with that, and even in terms of investments that we make are more surgical about growth segments where we say we are clearly missing out opportunity if we don't invest in. Looking into Q2, we're quite comfortable in terms of capacity. Now, Q3 and Q4 typically hang around the level. It depends. If growth really accelerates, we might need to have a look at it. Now, what I am basically been saying for a few quarters is if I look at where we are ahead, we're deploying our strategy. Yeah. yeah Konrad, good to speak to you. konrad good to speak to you I'll say, first of all, second half of the year, you know the six-week rule. i'll say first of all second half of the year you know the six-week rule First and foremost, I think we feel confident with the capacity we have now to support already the seasonal next big quarter, which is Q2. first and foremost i think we feel confident with the capacity we have now to support already the seasonal next big quarter which is q2 We don't expect FT investments to cope with that, and even in terms of investments that we make are more surgical about growth segments where we say we are clearly missing out opportunity if we don't invest in. we don't expect ft investments to cope with that and even in terms of investments that we make are more surgical about growth segments where we say we are clearly missing out opportunity if we don't invest in Looking into Q2, we're quite comfortable in terms of capacity. looking into q2 we're quite comfortable in terms of capacity Now, Q3 and Q4 typically hang around the level. now q3 and q4 typically hang around the level It depends. it depends If growth really accelerates, we might need to have a look at it. if growth really accelerates we might need to have a look at it Now, what I am basically been saying for a few quarters is if I look at where we are ahead, we're deploying our strategy. now what i am basically been saying for a few quarters is if i look at where we are ahead we're deploying our strategy Both, let's say, on the ability to structurally quarter-after-quarter, adding up another quarter of recovery ratio. Cumulatively always four quarters, close to 60%-70%. That plays out in decline, but I also clearly see it playing out in scalability and growth. Basically, I'm counting on now much more scalability and gearing as we come back to growth. Both, let's say, on the ability to structurally quarter-after-quarter, adding up another quarter of recovery ratio. both let's say on the ability to structurally quarter-after-quarter adding up another quarter of recovery ratio Cumulatively always four quarters, close to 60%-70%. cumulatively always four quarters close to 60%-70% That plays out in decline, but I also clearly see it playing out in scalability and growth. that plays out in decline but i also clearly see it playing out in scalability and growth Basically, I'm counting on now much more scalability and gearing as we come back to growth. basically i'm counting on now much more scalability and gearing as we come back to growth

Speaker 4: Okay. Thank you. Okay. okay Thank you. thank you

Speaker 6: Thank you. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Mr. van't Noordende for any closing remarks. Mr. van't Noordende, go ahead. Thank you. thank you With that, I will now turn the call back over to Mr. van't Noordende for any closing remarks. with that i will now turn the call back over to mr van't noordende for any closing remarks Mr. van't Noordende, go ahead. mr van't noordende go ahead

Speaker 9: Thank you, Bart Jan, and thank you all for joining the call today. As we wrap up the call, our people are doing a fantastic job day in, day out, and I would like to thank our more than 600,000 talent and Randstad team members for their hard work as they are truly the best team in the industry. Thank you. Thank you, Bart Jan, and thank you all for joining the call today. thank you bart jan and thank you all for joining the call today As we wrap up the call, our people are doing a fantastic job day in, day out, and I would like to thank our more than 600,000 talent and Randstad team members for their hard work as they are truly the best team in the industry. as we wrap up the call our people are doing a fantastic job day in day out and i would like to thank our more than 600,000 talent and randstad team members for their hard work as they are truly the best team in the industry Thank you. thank you