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Portillo's Inc. — Call Transcript 2026
May 5, 2026
I would now like to turn the call over to Chris Brandon, Vice President of Investor Relations at Portillo's, to begin. Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Portillo's First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. With me today are Brett Patterson, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Michelle Hook, Chief Financial Officer. You can find our 10-Q earnings press release and supplemental presentation at investors.portillos.com. Any commentary made here about our future results and business conditions are forward-looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and are not guarantees of future performance. We do not update these forward-looking statements unless required by law. Our 10-Q identifies risk factors that may cause our actual results to vary materially from these forward-looking statements. Today's earnings call will make reference to non-GAAP financial measures, which are not an alternative to GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to their most comparable GAAP counterparts are included in this morning's posted materials. Finally, after we deliver our prepared remarks, we will be happy to take questions from our covering sell side analysts. With that, I will turn the call over to Brett. Thanks, Chris. Good morning, everyone. I appreciate you joining my first earnings call as President and CEO of Portillo's. It's an honor to lead this special brand, and as I've observed these past few weeks, talented group of people. What drew me to this company starts with what makes it unique. At its core, Portillo's is about creating memorable experiences for our guests, supported by a strong culture of hospitality and a differentiated menu that offers craveable food. I want to take a moment to thank our team members for their candor and insights during my first two months, as well as offer my deep appreciation to all that bring this brand to life every day. I started my career in restaurants at age 17, working on the front lines. That foundation helped shape my leadership approach and taught me firsthand that the best restaurant brands have great culture with well-trained and committed teams that genuinely care about the guest experience. My focus now is bringing those elements together into a clear, disciplined strategy that our teams can consistently execute. My key objective these first 60 days has been to listen and learn, spend time with the teams in our restaurants, and understand the business from the ground up. That includes both our new markets as well as here in our backyard of Chicago, where strong performance is important and expected. Over the next several months, my priority is to partner with the leadership team and lean on formal research and insights to build a strategy that will align the entire organization. Getting there will require relentless focus and rigor to stick to what is most important, and that's how we will deliver the memorable experience that has helped us build some of the most loyal guests in the industry for more than six decades. At a high level, that foundation centers around three areas. Operational excellence as defined by a guest-centric mindset, well-trained team members, and high-quality food executed to standard, served accurately and on time. An integrated and targeted approach to marketing, leveraging data and insights while fully utilizing the right platforms to drive awareness, trial, acquisition, and frequency. Lastly, a disciplined development strategy that creates value. When we execute those three pillars, we believe the desired outcomes will follow. Consistent year-over-year, same-restaurant sales growth and improved restaurant-level profitability. Everything starts with operational excellence. It's essential that we consistently deliver a great experience in all our restaurants, no matter how guests choose to use us. The best insights come straight from the source, our restaurant teams and managers. That's why I have and will continue to make it a priority to spend time with them listening to what they need to ensure the proper tools and resources are in place to deliver on this imperative. We have engaged with outside partners to execute several landmark studies for the brand, led by our Chief Marketing Officer, Denise Lauer. This critical research is focused on customer segmentation, brand positioning, and menu satisfaction, and will give us deeper insights to better inform our marketing strategies in our core markets as well as new and growing territories. Strong operations and marketing will complement another extremely important initiative, implementing a sound philosophy and approach to ensure a value-creating development strategy. Portillo's has significant long-term growth opportunity, which will be a key piece of our strategic roadmap, but it must be pursued with discipline. We will be measured in terms of where and how we grow with a clear focus on cash on cash returns at the restaurant level. We're fortunate that Jennifer Pecoraro Stripling recently joined the team as Chief Development Officer. She brings vast industry experience in multiple categories to this critical function. She will be focused on evolving our new market playbook, selecting sites that drive healthy returns, exploring prototype formats, and ensuring a more disciplined use of capital by safeguarding responsible building costs. Before closing, I want to briefly touch on the first quarter, where we showed improvements in transactions and sales. While I'm encouraged by these results, our teams are putting their focus and energy into building a sustainable long-term plan that will lean on the aforementioned fundamentals to drive consistent results. Michelle will speak about our first quarter and current trends shortly. As we look ahead to the next few months, our focus is less about short-term tactics and quick-hit strategies, and more about building the right foundation for long-term profitable sales growth. As noted in the press release, we're comfortable with reiterating our fiscal year guidance. As our strategic work progresses and new finance leadership is brought on board, our expectations may evolve. We will continue to provide updates as appropriate throughout the year. In closing, I developed a passion for operations early in my restaurant career. I've always believed that the top restaurant companies are built on solid fundamentals and disciplined execution, led by teams that take pride in delivering best-in-class guest experiences. Bringing that passion to a brand I've admired since my first visit more than two decades ago is incredibly exciting. Our focus now is to sharpen our priorities, strengthen our ability to execute, and build a credible growth story. Before I pass it over to Michelle, I want to address the announcement we made this morning regarding her decision to depart Portillo's. Michelle has been Chief Financial Officer here since 2020, playing a critical role in leading our finance function, supporting the company's IPO in 2021, and helping expand the business into new markets. We appreciate Michelle's leadership. We will, consistent with our internal succession plan, immediately kick off a search with a leading national executive search firm to identify our next CFO. I'm confident in the long-term opportunity at Portillo's. I look forward to sharing more as our strategy continues to take shape and drive sustained long-term shareholder value. Michelle, I want to thank you for your dedicated service and partnership and wish you all the best in your next chapter. I will now turn it over to you to walk through our quarter one results in more detail. Thanks, Brett. I appreciate the kind words. I believe in the Portillo's brand and its leadership team, I'll be cheering you all on from the sidelines. Moving on to the company's first quarter performance. During the first quarter, revenues were $182.6 million, reflecting an increase of $6.2 million or 3.5% versus last year. Revenue growth was driven by non-comp restaurants, which contributed $7.7 million of the year-over-year increase. Same-restaurant sales declined 0.1%, decreasing revenues approximately $0.2 million. The same-restaurant sales decline reflected a 0.9% decrease in average check, partially offset by a 0.8% increase in transactions. Lower average check was driven by an approximate 1% decrease in product mix, partially offset by a 0.1% increase in menu prices, reflecting increased promotional offers. When assessing our gross pricing, we came into the first quarter with around 3% of incremental pricing from prior pricing actions in 2025. We had approximately 1.5% roll off in January, approximately 1% roll off in April, and the remaining 0.7% to lapse in June. We did not take additional pricing actions during the first quarter. However, we did take a 2% pricing action in mid-April across select menu categories. We expect surprise and delight offers within Perks to continue to have an impact on pricing. In addition to the impact on our net effective pricing in the quarter, our promotional offers and other menu initiatives drove positive transactions. During the quarter, our transactions benefited from our limited time Big Burger Bundle meal and innovation, including our new Birthday Cake LTO and the launch of our new sauces. This is in addition to other targeted offers we ran during the quarter on our Portillo's Perks loyalty platform. During April, we have seen negative comp trends of roughly a point, driven primarily by negative transaction and mix trends as we are lapping the benefit of our breakfast pilot from the prior year. We expect to have continued headwinds in May as we will be lapping our BOGO Beef promotion from the prior year. As Brett discussed, we will focus on three foundational areas which we believe will lead to improved sales and transactions and restaurant-level profitability for the long term. Turning to costs, food, beverage, and packaging costs increased to 34.7% of revenues in the quarter from 34.6% last year. This increase was driven primarily by higher commodity costs of 1.8%, led by beef and produce, partially offset by an increase in certain menu prices net of promotional offers. Labor expense increased to 26.9% of revenues from 26.6% in the prior year, primarily due to deleverage from our new restaurant openings, higher benefit costs and wage inflation, partially offset by labor efficiencies. Hourly wage rates increased approximately 1.5% in the quarter compared to prior year. Other operating expenses increased $2.3 million or 10.7%, primarily driven by the opening of new restaurants and higher repairs and maintenance expenses. As a percentage of revenues, other operating expenses increased to 13.2% from 12.4%. Occupancy expenses increased $1.2 million or 11.6%, also driven by the opening of new restaurants. As a percentage of revenues, occupancy expenses increased 0.4% compared to the prior year, driven by higher occupancy costs and revenue deleverage at new restaurants. Restaurant-level adjusted EBITDA decreased $1.8 million-$34.8 million, with margins declining approximately 170 basis points to 19.1% in the quarter versus 20.8% in the prior year. General and administrative expenses increased by $1.5 million -$20.4 million or 11.1% of revenue in the quarter from $18.9 million or 10.7%. This increase was primarily driven by higher equity-based compensation and professional fees, including $0.5 million of dead site costs. As we refine our development strategy, we will continue to evaluate our pipeline. Pre-opening expenses were $2.6 million in the quarter compared to $0.5 million last year, reflecting the timing and scale of activities related to our planned restaurant openings, including expansion into new markets. Adjusted EBITDA decreased by $2.8 million to $18.5 million or 10.1% of revenue from $21.2 million or 12% of revenue in the prior year. Below the EBITDA line, interest expense was $5.6 million in the quarter, down slightly from last year, driven by a lower effective interest rate. Income tax benefit was $0.2 million in the quarter compared to expense of $1.4 million in the prior year. Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 24.4% versus 25.4% in the prior year, reflecting changes in our valuation allowance related to equity-based compensation expense. Since the end of the quarter, we have opened one additional restaurant in Frisco, Texas, and expect to open three additional locations during the remainder of 2026, including our first airport location at DFW International Airport and our second in-line location, which will be in downtown Chicago. Cash provided by operating activities increased 85.8% year-over-year to $17.6 million year-to-date. We ended the quarter with $24 million in cash. We had $104 million outstanding on our revolver, total net debt of $347 million and approximately $42 million of remaining revolver capacity. Thanks for your time today. Operator, please open the line for questions. Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question will come from Margaret May with Wolfe Research. Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Michelle, best of luck. Thanks for all the collaboration. I just wanted to ask on the first quarter comp, can you give us a sense of how that progressed through the quarter? I know January had some weather. Did you guys see February and March showing sequential improvement? Just ex-that breakfast lap that you mentioned in April, how are underlying transactions trending in April? Thank you. Yeah, Margaret May. Thank you. I'll take that. Yeah, you're absolutely right. We were not immune to the weather conditions that hit in January, so we definitely saw that negativity come into play in January. Then obviously as the quarter progressed, we saw improvement. You know, I talked about and Brett talked about some of the things that we did in Q1 that helped to contribute to the results that you saw in the quarter. Yes, we did see some improvement in the quarter. Then when we look at April, we're seeing negative trends that's primarily coming in the form of transactions. We do continue to see some negative trends in mix as well, and that's primarily driven by what I describe as more trade downs versus items on the ticket. Those are the trends that we're seeing throughout the month of April. Thanks so much. Yep. Our next question will come from Gregory Francfort with Guggenheim. Hey, thanks for the question. Just maybe the other OpEx line, can you maybe parse out, that looks up quite a bit. Is that utilities? Is that maybe delivery fees or something like that? I'm just curious what might have been driving that. Greg, we did see some impacts earlier in the quarter from the weather. We saw some higher utilities, some higher, what I describe as, you know, snow maintenance and removal expenses, that drove some variability in the repairs and maintenance line. Those are the specifics that we saw. Again, I'd call some of that more attributable to the weather conditions that we saw. That's the call out I'd make on that. Got it. Then just with maybe pricing in the quarter, I mean, clearly Perks is having a big negative impact, but that might be part of just what you're trying to do strategically. Can you maybe parse through, like, I guess you would have expected to have an impact on consumer value perceptions. Is there an expected delay in terms of, you know, kind of, you know, having more controlled pricing and when the consumer might pick up on that, and if that impacts traffic on a six-month delay or a 12-month delay? Any thoughts on that would be great. Yeah, Greg. We had two things that impacted that net pricing in the quarter. We had our Big Burger Bundle meal. That was the burger, fries, and a drink meal we were running for $9.99. That definitely impacted the net pricing, as well as the Perks offers that we were running in the quarter as well. I would say just from a consumer perspective, you're right. As people go into these offers, whether it's the Big Burger Bundle that we were running or Perks offers, there's definitely a lag in terms of, you know, that value perception. We continue to focus on those value perception scores. You know, as Brett and the team look towards our strategies in the future, I think, you know, what plays a role in that could be many things, whether it's, you know, continuing to look at value in the form of Perks offers or, you know, menu offerings. We're currently running, you know, our new Hot and Saucy Beef promotion right now. Not really a discount, but more of an LTO. There is a lag to your point that I think, as people go into those that they come out with. The goal is to obviously drive frequency of visits and attract new guests into our brand. Those were the things that we were looking at post-promotion as well to determine if there was success or not. Hey, Greg, this is Brett. I would also just chime in that as Michelle mentioned, we're looking at the numerator of the value equation as well. If you think about our strategy when we're starting with ops excellence, one of the things we need to do is make sure that we're delivering or exceeding the expectations of the folks coming in that are paying full price. I think the second lever that we'll explore as part of the strategy is gonna be the use of food innovation to create value. Not just locking in on, you know, a fully discounted value offer, but how do we use innovation to talk about value? How do we use marketing to talk more about value? We certainly know it's a drive for the business and kind of where the consumer's at today, it's important. Not locking ourselves into just going after kind of this discounted promotional model. Again, that is star one to ask a question. Also, please limit yourself to one question. We'll go next to Sara Senatore with Bank of America. Thank you. Sorry, just a quick clarification then a question about the real estate strategy. For Q2, Sara's trying to follow some of the rolling off of prices. Did you say what the effective price will be in the second quarter? Is it, you know, could it be negative? Hi, Sara. We don't anticipate it being negative. We're not, you know, the Big Burger Bundle came off, you know, being an offer we were running at the end of Q1. You know, we're running some various Perks offers as well, we don't expect that to be negative. Just to clarify, we took a two percentage points of a pricing increase at the beginning of April. We had a point that rolled off midway through April, we have around 0.7% that'll be in effect until June. Think of it as we sit here today. You had a little bit higher pricing in April, the point just under 4% in April, you had that point that rolled off. As we sit here in May, we're just under 3%. Okay, thank you. I appreciate that. Then, I guess, you mentioned, I guess, half a million of dead site costs. It sounds like you're already making some changes to the sites, you know, in terms of what you might have identified before versus where you're deciding to build. I know, you know, I know the Chief Development Officer, she just, you know, she's relatively, I guess, recent. Anything you can sort of address in terms of, you know, what changes maybe you're or what sites you may be abandoning versus, you know, how you're thinking about going forward. Hey, Sara, this is Brett. Yeah, I'll take that. As far as, yeah, Jennifer is fairly new, but I've, she's hit the ground running. I think the team and Jennifer have been really focused on kinda just reassessing the entire development strategy. You know, the 2026 sites were locked, and those, you know, will be finished after we open the next three this year. We did have an opportunity for some of the 2027 class to take a look at whether some sites we could potentially get out of. I don't wanna share specifically what those were, but we have made some decisions to get out of a couple of them. I would say in 2027, and, you know, we're probably gonna be in somewhere the four to six range for openings, and that's why you'll see some dead site costs coming into last quarter and potentially Q2 as well. We'll go next to JP Wollam with ROTH Capital Partners. Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I was hoping if we could just maybe talk in terms of productivity in the new Texas stores. You know, understanding, Brett, to your point, a lot of those sites were kind of already baked, we could say. Yeah. Just in terms of the openings, you know, how are you thinking about productivity, efficiency in terms of labor and back of house, and just any other new takeaways from this year's Texas openings? Yeah, JP, thank you. You know, I would tell you that the team has done a really good job coming out of 2025 in the first quarter addressing some of those productivity opportunities. Tony, you know, our Chief Operating Officer has been very involved with the kind of the Texas turnaround. I'd say we've seen some improvement, sequential improvement in back house labor productivity. There's still opportunity. I think we've, you know, we've gotta really take a look at kind of the analogs of similar volumes outside of Texas and how those perform and use that as kind of a benchmark for our Texas teams. I know Tony and the team are starting to do that work now. I still think there's opportunities there. Certainly, we've got to drive the top line. That's more of our focus. We don't wanna, you know, cut ourselves to the point we can't grow top line. Denise is still working very actively on a very integrated marketing plan for Texas. We'll continue to see some productivity improvements in Texas as well as some top-line growth. Great. Thank you. Moving on to Chris O'Cull with Stifel. Thanks. Good morning, guys. Michelle, Allison will wish you well and hope to work with you again. Thanks, Chris. Maybe, I don't know if this question is for Michelle or Brett, but can you explain the sharp decline in annualized AUVs for the 2025 class during the quarter relative to the fourth quarter? When you look at the class of 25, Chris, we had openings that were in the back half of the year. One of those openings was a restaurant we were very public about, which was our first in Atlanta in Kennesaw. I think we talked about that having a very robust opening when we opened Kennesaw in November. Obviously, you know us, you know there's a honeymoon curve right to the performance of those restaurants. As those volumes start to settle down, specifically for that restaurant, you see some impacts coming in there. That, that's part of what you're seeing in some of that. I'd call out that one specifically. Brett, why don't you think customer retention isn't higher once you get these strong responses to the initial opening? Do you have any assessment of that? I think it's a really good question, Chris. I think there's a real opportunity for us to learn more about kind of the consumer base when we go into these new markets. Certainly, you know, you do see a pretty steep honeymoon. It's a little more steep than I'm used to in my past. I don't know how much that has to do with our ability to drive quick awareness out of the gate, and that kind of wanes off over time. I'd say don't have the answer now, but it is certainly something we need to continue to explore, you know, to better understand that and how do we prop it up during that kind of down cycle in the honeymoon. You know, I would tell you, the one thing I would add is you generally see, though, very high metrics still from a, you know, from a customer satisfaction Net Promoter Score. There's nothing that jumps off that says, you know, you didn't open it well and now, you've disappointed a lot of guests. They seem very, very, you know, engaged and connected to the brand. Again, that frequency is gonna be something we really have to understand. Our next question comes from Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Hi, good morning. You know, sorry to see Michelle go. It's been a pleasure working with you. Thanks, Sharon. I did wanna ask about kind of menu innovation versus Perks. It seems like you're having more success with Perks driving traffic, and I'm curious if there's anything there that you could call out specifically that worked well in the first quarter that you plan to replicate or evolve. Secondarily, as we think about those non-Chicago markets, how is innovation resonating in those markets? Thank you. Yeah. Hey, good morning. Thank you for the question. You know, I'll speak to the Perks piece. The one thing we have seen is continued growth and penetration. We, you know, in Q1, we saw 3% more penetration from Perks than Q4. I think the real unlock there is for us to continue to better understand our customer cohorts and how do we tailor messages specific to those cohorts based on their visit frequency. I know Denise and the team really You know, there's a lot of test and learn going on for that right now. We did see some You know, what we've seen when we do Perks offers around kind of, you know, special events or holidays, we do get a really strong reaction, like opening Major League Baseball day with, buy one hot dog, get one free. We've seen those really work well for us. But it's not something that we see as kind of this, you know, on every day type scenario. You know, we had the Big Burger Bundle was a big driver in quarter one, as well, for the traffic. I think it was a combination of both. Your question on the innovation, I think there's really an opportunity to learn. I wouldn't say we've had significant, meaningful innovation yet, when we've really introduced new items or new item format. I do believe, you know, once we get out of Chicago and have different, you know, understanding in different markets of what those items can be, and I think it'll play an important role in the future for us. Moving next to David Tarantino with Baird. Hi, good morning. Brett, I'd be interested to hear more about your vision for how Portillo's should grow over time. I know you have a lot of foundational work that you outlined that you need to complete, but, you know, once that work's done, what are you gonna be looking for to make the decision on re-accelerating the growth? What type of growth do you think Portillo's can deliver longer term if you get it right? Thanks. Yeah, David, thanks for the question. I, you know, speaking to the development piece, I would tell you know, right now, we're turning over every stone to understand every piece of development and what we can learn from the past, and then creating certainly a better future for development. What I'll share, again, without having the facts, as you mentioned, we've got a lot of research to do and insights, but I will tell you there's an opportunity. Certainly, number one, we've got to make sure we have the real estate forecast model dialed in, because that really informs site selection. I think there's an opportunity when we go to new markets with low, low awareness, the type of site we choose is imperative that it's a site that generates high awareness versus they have to find you. There's prototype work we're going to do. We're going to explore, you know, what are the best formats that can generate the best returns to the restaurant and still execute high volume. I know Michelle really led the project with the team to get to the 2.0. We're excited to see that come to life. So I would tell you that everything's under review including build cost. We'll come back to you at a later date with what we think that means for the future. We're gonna try to get to, you know, it'd really be 2028 before we start to see that work. Again, I think getting the brand study, and I mentioned the discipline and the script, right? Having the discipline just to wait, for the insights and the research to help guide us, not be necessary just to guide, is gonna be really important to our future growth. If I'm still on, maybe a follow-up. Sure. I think at one point, you know, I guess, you know, in the recent past, you know, Portillo's was targeting double-digit unit growth. I mean, I guess my question is whether you think that's an appropriate growth rate for the comp longer term, you know, presuming you get all the foundational elements right. I mean, should we be expecting, you know, a path back to that level? Do you think that maybe a slower growth rate is more appropriate? I guess, what are your initial thoughts as you think about that outlook? Yeah, again, I'm anxious to answer that question myself, and I think we've gotta right now, we've gotta do the work, right? To build. What I would tell you is what we've done in the past, I wouldn't say is a sustainable double-digit growth model. Developing something for the future that we feel really confident about, the level of capital we're spending, the returns we're getting, will be the key driver for that. Moving next to Jim Salera with Stephens. Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking our question. To switch gears and talk a little bit on the margin front, I know beef prices have continued to grind higher as the years progressed, and you guys flagged some promotional offering you did that obviously had beef-centric items. Can you just walk us through, A, you know, kind of how you're hedged on beef, but then also, B, how you're thinking about maybe some of those promotional mix given that you have, you know, beef exposure and where that's at, you know, on input costs? Yeah, Jim, I can take that. Thanks for the question. We're still projecting mid-single-digit commodity inflation for the year, and we did have what I'd describe as a lower inflationary number in Q1. I think that, you know, speaks to the things that we put in place to try and manage that exposure. As we sit here today, we're hedged on our flats or we forward bought on those. There's about 65% of that specific commodity that we're locked in on for the year. We have about 30%-ish or so of our total basket that we're locked in on for Q2 through Q4. We've put some things in place to de-risk that. As we look at, you know, what is the future of commodities, yes, we still expect beef to be a pressure point for the remainder of this year. We do expect our inflation to be higher than what you saw in Q1, in Q2 through four. I'd say probably Q4, we're just, as we sit here today, expect that to be the most pressured quarter of the future quarters. We still feel good about, again, that mid-single digit inflationary number that we put out there. To your point on marketing, you know, certain items that relate to beef, I think to Brett's point, as he continues to refine the strategy and we look at what's best for the brand, I think, you know, everything's on the table as we move forward. Portillo's is built on, you know, beef items, whether it's our beef sandwich, our hot dogs are all beef, our hamburgers, which we ran that promotion in Q1. you know, we're not going to lean away from that, I would say, as we move forward in the future. I think there's opportunities to lean into other categories as well moving forward. Moving on to Dennis Geiger with UBS. Great. Thanks, guys. Michelle, thanks for all your help and best of luck to you, of course. Quick housekeeping item and then a question from me. On the housekeeping, just curious if anything to share on performance across geographies. I'm thinking about Chicagoland versus outside, et cetera, or performance by channel in the quarter. Then the question really is a bit more on the marketing strategy side of things and just where things stand there, if it's too early to share about anything on sort of notable shifts in marketing strategy or marketing spend levels. Is it still early until some of those survey insights come back? Thank you. Hey, Dennis. This is Brett. Thanks for the question. First, what we saw in quarter one, which was really good news, we saw Chicagoland perform really well. They had outsized transaction growth compared to the rest of the fleet. The rest of the concept did well, but it was great to see Chicago pop in the first quarter, which I think speaks to, you know, this environment being, and the way that Chicago uses the brand, where you had that value offer with Big Burger Bundle really resonated. There's learnings for that of how we think about it going forward. It was nice to see that for Chicago. You know, your second question regarding marketing, I think the brand work is gonna be critical for that. you know, I know Denise is, you know, we're working on the MarTech stack. We're looking at, you know, channel usage, media mix usage, you know, offers by customer segmentation. That work is all in progress. The brand work's really gonna help us inform, you know, how and who we target, once we get that information back. We did plus up some media around the Big Burger Bundle, and we saw, you know, we saw that really support the message. We know it works when we have the right offer and the right message. Getting, you know, getting the channels and the mix right is gonna be really important as we go forward to maximize our marketing spend. Great. Thanks, Brett. We'll go next to Matt Curtis with D.A. Davidson. Hi, good morning. You know, Brett, given your casual dining background, I was just wondering if you could share your thoughts on elevating the customer experience, both in store and at the drive-thru, and if perhaps adding labor might be part of that. Matt, thank you. You know, I've gotten the question a lot about, you know, coming in from full service to fast casual. You know, what I would tell you is I think there's so many similarities. One was when you just step back and think about what a customer wants, it doesn't really differ between the two channels. You know, they want great value created by food service atmosphere, you know, divided by price, and that's what we have to deliver. As I think about our brand, how do we make sure our food is compelling? It remains high quality. It's something the brand's been built on. The service aspect, we're different than a lot of other fast casual concepts with our drive-through, where we have people in the drive-through, you know, taking orders and have that face-to-face interaction. I think those things have been key to Portillo's and will remain key. I think your point on how do we enhance that to make sure that we put the guest at the center of everything we do, is a culture we're going to continue to focus on in this company. I don't see, you know, a difference of being full service or quick service as it relates to how we think about the customer. Okay. Understood. Thank you. Our final question will come from Brian Harbour with Morgan Stanley. Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Michelle, best of luck, certainly. The conversation about, you know, kind of value perception lagging, I guess, you know, Is what you're saying that, look, you know, some of these promotional offers have certainly worked, but they're fairly short-lived? I mean, how do you think those kind of play a role in the future, or is this kind of like a conversation about maybe some everyday value thing is needed? How should we think about that? Yeah. You know, Brian, I think that at the end of the day, we're not looking, and Brett and the team are not looking for quick like hitters or fixes for this brand. I think doing the work around the brand, that Denise is doing on the perception study and, what do we wanna be over the long term, it comes back to that value equation, that Brett just talked about, which is, you know, something over price, whether that's your experience, the quality of the food, the accuracy, the speed, all of that, you know, over the price that you're paying for that. You know, I think as this brand moves forward, that's the way that the team is thinking about it, is what's the best over the long term for the brand to continue to provide that quote-unquote value to the guest. Those things can come in many forms, whether it's through menu innovation, right? Menu innovation can be permanent menu items, it can be limited time offers, right? Those things you don't necessarily have to, you know, put the brand on sale or do things like that and discount to have that value perception. Brett talked about operational excellence, like getting better operationally. Focusing in on those metrics that matter, whether it's accuracy or speed of service or hospitality, right? Those are things that over the long term carry brands forward versus how can I get these quick wins in the short term. That I know is the mindset moving forward for Brett and the team, versus, you know, what can we do for this quarter. Yeah, if I could just add, Brian, one thing is I think the way I would frame it is, you know, we have to organizationally make sure we build a much stronger foundation of value, then I think as you pulse in opportunities, there should be a bump in value. Those to me are very short term transactional. If you do a heavy discount over a period of time, or an offer, you're certainly gonna see your value scores elevate during that time. Generally, what happens as soon as you come off that, your value scores revert back to a base. Our job and our focus is gonna be how do we strengthen the base value? When we do those offers, it's just incremental, right, to the consumer. Again, and right now, until we really understand that, we keep coming back to the brand work and research, we're not gonna spend a lot of time on figuring out what are those short-term levers, until we really understand who our customer is and how do we go to market, and that'll shape our marketing and go to, you know, our strategy. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.
Speaker 13: I would now like to turn the call over to Chris Brandon, Vice President of Investor Relations at Portillo's, to begin. I would now like to turn the call over to Chris Brandon, Vice President of Investor Relations at Portillo's, to begin. i would now like to turn the call over to chris brandon vice president of investor relations at portillo's to begin
Speaker 3: Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Portillo's First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. With me today are Brett Patterson, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Michelle Hook, Chief Financial Officer. You can find our 10-Q earnings press release and supplemental presentation at investors.portillos.com. Any commentary made here about our future results and business conditions are forward-looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and are not guarantees of future performance. We do not update these forward-looking statements unless required by law. Our 10-Q identifies risk factors that may cause our actual results to vary materially from these forward-looking statements. Today's earnings call will make reference to non-GAAP financial measures, which are not an alternative to GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to their most comparable GAAP counterparts are included in this morning's posted materials. Thanks, operator. thanks operator Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Portillo's First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. good morning everyone and welcome to the portillo's first quarter 2026 earnings call With me today are Brett Patterson, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Michelle Hook, Chief Financial Officer. with me today are brett patterson president and chief executive officer and michelle hook chief financial officer You can find our 10-Q earnings press release and supplemental presentation at investors.portillos.com. you can find our 10-q earnings press release and supplemental presentation at investors.portillos.com Any commentary made here about our future results and business conditions are forward-looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and are not guarantees of future performance. any commentary made here about our future results and business conditions are forward-looking statements which are based on management's current expectations and are not guarantees of future performance We do not update these forward-looking statements unless required by law. we do not update these forward-looking statements unless required by law Our 10-Q identifies risk factors that may cause our actual results to vary materially from these forward-looking statements. our 10-q identifies risk factors that may cause our actual results to vary materially from these forward-looking statements Today's earnings call will make reference to non-GAAP financial measures, which are not an alternative to GAAP measures. today's earnings call will make reference to non-gaap financial measures which are not an alternative to gaap measures Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to their most comparable GAAP counterparts are included in this morning's posted materials. reconciliations of these non-gaap measures to their most comparable gaap counterparts are included in this morning's posted materials Finally, after we deliver our prepared remarks, we will be happy to take questions from our covering sell side analysts. With that, I will turn the call over to Brett. Finally, after we deliver our prepared remarks, we will be happy to take questions from our covering sell side analysts. finally after we deliver our prepared remarks we will be happy to take questions from our covering sell side analysts With that, I will turn the call over to Brett. with that i will turn the call over to brett
Speaker 1: Thanks, Chris. Good morning, everyone. I appreciate you joining my first earnings call as President and CEO of Portillo's. It's an honor to lead this special brand, and as I've observed these past few weeks, talented group of people. What drew me to this company starts with what makes it unique. At its core, Portillo's is about creating memorable experiences for our guests, supported by a strong culture of hospitality and a differentiated menu that offers craveable food. I want to take a moment to thank our team members for their candor and insights during my first two months, as well as offer my deep appreciation to all that bring this brand to life every day. I started my career in restaurants at age 17, working on the front lines. Thanks, Chris. thanks chris Good morning, everyone. good morning everyone I appreciate you joining my first earnings call as President and CEO of Portillo's. i appreciate you joining my first earnings call as president and ceo of portillo's It's an honor to lead this special brand, and as I've observed these past few weeks, talented group of people. it's an honor to lead this special brand and as i've observed these past few weeks talented group of people What drew me to this company starts with what makes it unique. what drew me to this company starts with what makes it unique At its core, Portillo's is about creating memorable experiences for our guests, supported by a strong culture of hospitality and a differentiated menu that offers craveable food. at its core portillo's is about creating memorable experiences for our guests supported by a strong culture of hospitality and a differentiated menu that offers craveable food I want to take a moment to thank our team members for their candor and insights during my first two months, as well as offer my deep appreciation to all that bring this brand to life every day. i want to take a moment to thank our team members for their candor and insights during my first two months as well as offer my deep appreciation to all that bring this brand to life every day I started my career in restaurants at age 17, working on the front lines. i started my career in restaurants at age 17 working on the front lines That foundation helped shape my leadership approach and taught me firsthand that the best restaurant brands have great culture with well-trained and committed teams that genuinely care about the guest experience. My focus now is bringing those elements together into a clear, disciplined strategy that our teams can consistently execute. My key objective these first 60 days has been to listen and learn, spend time with the teams in our restaurants, and understand the business from the ground up. That includes both our new markets as well as here in our backyard of Chicago, where strong performance is important and expected. Over the next several months, my priority is to partner with the leadership team and lean on formal research and insights to build a strategy that will align the entire organization. That foundation helped shape my leadership approach and taught me firsthand that the best restaurant brands have great culture with well-trained and committed teams that genuinely care about the guest experience. that foundation helped shape my leadership approach and taught me firsthand that the best restaurant brands have great culture with well-trained and committed teams that genuinely care about the guest experience My focus now is bringing those elements together into a clear, disciplined strategy that our teams can consistently execute. my focus now is bringing those elements together into a clear disciplined strategy that our teams can consistently execute My key objective these first 60 days has been to listen and learn, spend time with the teams in our restaurants, and understand the business from the ground up. my key objective these first 60 days has been to listen and learn spend time with the teams in our restaurants and understand the business from the ground up That includes both our new markets as well as here in our backyard of Chicago, where strong performance is important and expected. that includes both our new markets as well as here in our backyard of chicago where strong performance is important and expected Over the next several months, my priority is to partner with the leadership team and lean on formal research and insights to build a strategy that will align the entire organization. over the next several months my priority is to partner with the leadership team and lean on formal research and insights to build a strategy that will align the entire organization Getting there will require relentless focus and rigor to stick to what is most important, and that's how we will deliver the memorable experience that has helped us build some of the most loyal guests in the industry for more than six decades. At a high level, that foundation centers around three areas. Operational excellence as defined by a guest-centric mindset, well-trained team members, and high-quality food executed to standard, served accurately and on time. An integrated and targeted approach to marketing, leveraging data and insights while fully utilizing the right platforms to drive awareness, trial, acquisition, and frequency. Lastly, a disciplined development strategy that creates value. When we execute those three pillars, we believe the desired outcomes will follow. Consistent year-over-year, same-restaurant sales growth and improved restaurant-level profitability. Everything starts with operational excellence. Getting there will require relentless focus and rigor to stick to what is most important, and that's how we will deliver the memorable experience that has helped us build some of the most loyal guests in the industry for more than six decades. getting there will require relentless focus and rigor to stick to what is most important and that's how we will deliver the memorable experience that has helped us build some of the most loyal guests in the industry for more than six decades At a high level, that foundation centers around three areas. at a high level that foundation centers around three areas Operational excellence as defined by a guest-centric mindset, well-trained team members, and high-quality food executed to standard, served accurately and on time. operational excellence as defined by a guest-centric mindset well-trained team members and high-quality food executed to standard served accurately and on time An integrated and targeted approach to marketing, leveraging data and insights while fully utilizing the right platforms to drive awareness, trial, acquisition, and frequency. an integrated and targeted approach to marketing leveraging data and insights while fully utilizing the right platforms to drive awareness trial acquisition and frequency Lastly, a disciplined development strategy that creates value. lastly a disciplined development strategy that creates value When we execute those three pillars, we believe the desired outcomes will follow. when we execute those three pillars we believe the desired outcomes will follow Consistent year-over-year, same-restaurant sales growth and improved restaurant-level profitability. consistent year-over-year same-restaurant sales growth and improved restaurant-level profitability Everything starts with operational excellence. everything starts with operational excellence It's essential that we consistently deliver a great experience in all our restaurants, no matter how guests choose to use us. The best insights come straight from the source, our restaurant teams and managers. That's why I have and will continue to make it a priority to spend time with them listening to what they need to ensure the proper tools and resources are in place to deliver on this imperative. We have engaged with outside partners to execute several landmark studies for the brand, led by our Chief Marketing Officer, Denise Lauer. This critical research is focused on customer segmentation, brand positioning, and menu satisfaction, and will give us deeper insights to better inform our marketing strategies in our core markets as well as new and growing territories. It's essential that we consistently deliver a great experience in all our restaurants, no matter how guests choose to use us. it's essential that we consistently deliver a great experience in all our restaurants no matter how guests choose to use us The best insights come straight from the source, our restaurant teams and managers. the best insights come straight from the source our restaurant teams and managers That's why I have and will continue to make it a priority to spend time with them listening to what they need to ensure the proper tools and resources are in place to deliver on this imperative. that's why i have and will continue to make it a priority to spend time with them listening to what they need to ensure the proper tools and resources are in place to deliver on this imperative We have engaged with outside partners to execute several landmark studies for the brand, led by our Chief Marketing Officer, Denise Lauer. we have engaged with outside partners to execute several landmark studies for the brand led by our chief marketing officer denise lauer This critical research is focused on customer segmentation, brand positioning, and menu satisfaction, and will give us deeper insights to better inform our marketing strategies in our core markets as well as new and growing territories. this critical research is focused on customer segmentation brand positioning and menu satisfaction and will give us deeper insights to better inform our marketing strategies in our core markets as well as new and growing territories Strong operations and marketing will complement another extremely important initiative, implementing a sound philosophy and approach to ensure a value-creating development strategy. Portillo's has significant long-term growth opportunity, which will be a key piece of our strategic roadmap, but it must be pursued with discipline. We will be measured in terms of where and how we grow with a clear focus on cash on cash returns at the restaurant level. We're fortunate that Jennifer Pecoraro Stripling recently joined the team as Chief Development Officer. She brings vast industry experience in multiple categories to this critical function. She will be focused on evolving our new market playbook, selecting sites that drive healthy returns, exploring prototype formats, and ensuring a more disciplined use of capital by safeguarding responsible building costs. Before closing, I want to briefly touch on the first quarter, where we showed improvements in transactions and sales. Strong operations and marketing will complement another extremely important initiative, implementing a sound philosophy and approach to ensure a value-creating development strategy. strong operations and marketing will complement another extremely important initiative implementing a sound philosophy and approach to ensure a value-creating development strategy Portillo's has significant long-term growth opportunity, which will be a key piece of our strategic roadmap, but it must be pursued with discipline. portillo's has significant long-term growth opportunity which will be a key piece of our strategic roadmap but it must be pursued with discipline We will be measured in terms of where and how we grow with a clear focus on cash on cash returns at the restaurant level. we will be measured in terms of where and how we grow with a clear focus on cash on cash returns at the restaurant level We're fortunate that Jennifer Pecoraro Stripling recently joined the team as Chief Development Officer. we're fortunate that jennifer pecoraro stripling recently joined the team as chief development officer She brings vast industry experience in multiple categories to this critical function. she brings vast industry experience in multiple categories to this critical function She will be focused on evolving our new market playbook, selecting sites that drive healthy returns, exploring prototype formats, and ensuring a more disciplined use of capital by safeguarding responsible building costs. she will be focused on evolving our new market playbook selecting sites that drive healthy returns exploring prototype formats and ensuring a more disciplined use of capital by safeguarding responsible building costs Before closing, I want to briefly touch on the first quarter, where we showed improvements in transactions and sales. before closing i want to briefly touch on the first quarter where we showed improvements in transactions and sales While I'm encouraged by these results, our teams are putting their focus and energy into building a sustainable long-term plan that will lean on the aforementioned fundamentals to drive consistent results. Michelle will speak about our first quarter and current trends shortly. As we look ahead to the next few months, our focus is less about short-term tactics and quick-hit strategies, and more about building the right foundation for long-term profitable sales growth. As noted in the press release, we're comfortable with reiterating our fiscal year guidance. As our strategic work progresses and new finance leadership is brought on board, our expectations may evolve. We will continue to provide updates as appropriate throughout the year. In closing, I developed a passion for operations early in my restaurant career. While I'm encouraged by these results, our teams are putting their focus and energy into building a sustainable long-term plan that will lean on the aforementioned fundamentals to drive consistent results. while i'm encouraged by these results our teams are putting their focus and energy into building a sustainable long-term plan that will lean on the aforementioned fundamentals to drive consistent results Michelle will speak about our first quarter and current trends shortly. michelle will speak about our first quarter and current trends shortly As we look ahead to the next few months, our focus is less about short-term tactics and quick-hit strategies, and more about building the right foundation for long-term profitable sales growth. as we look ahead to the next few months our focus is less about short-term tactics and quick-hit strategies and more about building the right foundation for long-term profitable sales growth As noted in the press release, we're comfortable with reiterating our fiscal year guidance. as noted in the press release we're comfortable with reiterating our fiscal year guidance As our strategic work progresses and new finance leadership is brought on board, our expectations may evolve. as our strategic work progresses and new finance leadership is brought on board our expectations may evolve We will continue to provide updates as appropriate throughout the year. we will continue to provide updates as appropriate throughout the year In closing, I developed a passion for operations early in my restaurant career. in closing i developed a passion for operations early in my restaurant career I've always believed that the top restaurant companies are built on solid fundamentals and disciplined execution, led by teams that take pride in delivering best-in-class guest experiences. Bringing that passion to a brand I've admired since my first visit more than two decades ago is incredibly exciting. Our focus now is to sharpen our priorities, strengthen our ability to execute, and build a credible growth story. Before I pass it over to Michelle, I want to address the announcement we made this morning regarding her decision to depart Portillo's. Michelle has been Chief Financial Officer here since 2020, playing a critical role in leading our finance function, supporting the company's IPO in 2021, and helping expand the business into new markets. I've always believed that the top restaurant companies are built on solid fundamentals and disciplined execution, led by teams that take pride in delivering best-in-class guest experiences. i've always believed that the top restaurant companies are built on solid fundamentals and disciplined execution led by teams that take pride in delivering best-in-class guest experiences Bringing that passion to a brand I've admired since my first visit more than two decades ago is incredibly exciting. bringing that passion to a brand i've admired since my first visit more than two decades ago is incredibly exciting Our focus now is to sharpen our priorities, strengthen our ability to execute, and build a credible growth story. our focus now is to sharpen our priorities strengthen our ability to execute and build a credible growth story Before I pass it over to Michelle, I want to address the announcement we made this morning regarding her decision to depart Portillo's. before i pass it over to michelle i want to address the announcement we made this morning regarding her decision to depart portillo's Michelle has been Chief Financial Officer here since 2020, playing a critical role in leading our finance function, supporting the company's IPO in 2021, and helping expand the business into new markets. michelle has been chief financial officer here since 2020 playing a critical role in leading our finance function supporting the company's ipo in 2021 and helping expand the business into new markets We appreciate Michelle's leadership. We will, consistent with our internal succession plan, immediately kick off a search with a leading national executive search firm to identify our next CFO. I'm confident in the long-term opportunity at Portillo's. I look forward to sharing more as our strategy continues to take shape and drive sustained long-term shareholder value. Michelle, I want to thank you for your dedicated service and partnership and wish you all the best in your next chapter. I will now turn it over to you to walk through our quarter one results in more detail. We appreciate Michelle's leadership. we appreciate michelle's leadership We will, consistent with our internal succession plan, immediately kick off a search with a leading national executive search firm to identify our next CFO. we will consistent with our internal succession plan immediately kick off a search with a leading national executive search firm to identify our next cfo I'm confident in the long-term opportunity at Portillo's. i'm confident in the long-term opportunity at portillo's I look forward to sharing more as our strategy continues to take shape and drive sustained long-term shareholder value. i look forward to sharing more as our strategy continues to take shape and drive sustained long-term shareholder value Michelle, I want to thank you for your dedicated service and partnership and wish you all the best in your next chapter. michelle i want to thank you for your dedicated service and partnership and wish you all the best in your next chapter I will now turn it over to you to walk through our quarter one results in more detail. i will now turn it over to you to walk through our quarter one results in more detail
Speaker 12: Thanks, Brett. I appreciate the kind words. I believe in the Portillo's brand and its leadership team, I'll be cheering you all on from the sidelines. Moving on to the company's first quarter performance. During the first quarter, revenues were $182.6 million, reflecting an increase of $6.2 million or 3.5% versus last year. Revenue growth was driven by non-comp restaurants, which contributed $7.7 million of the year-over-year increase. Same-restaurant sales declined 0.1%, decreasing revenues approximately $0.2 million. The same-restaurant sales decline reflected a 0.9% decrease in average check, partially offset by a 0.8% increase in transactions. Lower average check was driven by an approximate 1% decrease in product mix, partially offset by a 0.1% increase in menu prices, reflecting increased promotional offers. Thanks, Brett. thanks brett I appreciate the kind words. i appreciate the kind words I believe in the Portillo's brand and its leadership team, I'll be cheering you all on from the sidelines. i believe in the portillo's brand and its leadership team i'll be cheering you all on from the sidelines Moving on to the company's first quarter performance. moving on to the company's first quarter performance During the first quarter, revenues were $182.6 million, reflecting an increase of $6.2 million or 3.5% versus last year. during the first quarter revenues were $182.6 million reflecting an increase of $6.2 million or 3.5% versus last year Revenue growth was driven by non-comp restaurants, which contributed $7.7 million of the year-over-year increase. revenue growth was driven by non-comp restaurants which contributed $7.7 million of the year-over-year increase Same-restaurant sales declined 0.1%, decreasing revenues approximately $0.2 million. same-restaurant sales declined 0.1% decreasing revenues approximately $0.2 million The same-restaurant sales decline reflected a 0.9% decrease in average check, partially offset by a 0.8% increase in transactions. the same-restaurant sales decline reflected a 0.9% decrease in average check partially offset by a 0.8% increase in transactions Lower average check was driven by an approximate 1% decrease in product mix, partially offset by a 0.1% increase in menu prices, reflecting increased promotional offers. lower average check was driven by an approximate 1% decrease in product mix partially offset by a 0.1% increase in menu prices reflecting increased promotional offers When assessing our gross pricing, we came into the first quarter with around 3% of incremental pricing from prior pricing actions in 2025. We had approximately 1.5% roll off in January, approximately 1% roll off in April, and the remaining 0.7% to lapse in June. We did not take additional pricing actions during the first quarter. However, we did take a 2% pricing action in mid-April across select menu categories. We expect surprise and delight offers within Perks to continue to have an impact on pricing. In addition to the impact on our net effective pricing in the quarter, our promotional offers and other menu initiatives drove positive transactions. During the quarter, our transactions benefited from our limited time Big Burger Bundle meal and innovation, including our new Birthday Cake LTO and the launch of our new sauces. When assessing our gross pricing, we came into the first quarter with around 3% of incremental pricing from prior pricing actions in 2025. when assessing our gross pricing we came into the first quarter with around 3% of incremental pricing from prior pricing actions in 2025 We had approximately 1.5% roll off in January, approximately 1% roll off in April, and the remaining 0.7% to lapse in June. we had approximately 1.5% roll off in january approximately 1% roll off in april and the remaining 0.7% to lapse in june We did not take additional pricing actions during the first quarter. we did not take additional pricing actions during the first quarter However, we did take a 2% pricing action in mid-April across select menu categories. however we did take a 2% pricing action in mid-april across select menu categories We expect surprise and delight offers within Perks to continue to have an impact on pricing. we expect surprise and delight offers within perks to continue to have an impact on pricing In addition to the impact on our net effective pricing in the quarter, our promotional offers and other menu initiatives drove positive transactions. in addition to the impact on our net effective pricing in the quarter our promotional offers and other menu initiatives drove positive transactions During the quarter, our transactions benefited from our limited time Big Burger Bundle meal and innovation, including our new Birthday Cake LTO and the launch of our new sauces. during the quarter our transactions benefited from our limited time big burger bundle meal and innovation including our new birthday cake lto and the launch of our new sauces This is in addition to other targeted offers we ran during the quarter on our Portillo's Perks loyalty platform. During April, we have seen negative comp trends of roughly a point, driven primarily by negative transaction and mix trends as we are lapping the benefit of our breakfast pilot from the prior year. We expect to have continued headwinds in May as we will be lapping our BOGO Beef promotion from the prior year. As Brett discussed, we will focus on three foundational areas which we believe will lead to improved sales and transactions and restaurant-level profitability for the long term. Turning to costs, food, beverage, and packaging costs increased to 34.7% of revenues in the quarter from 34.6% last year. This is in addition to other targeted offers we ran during the quarter on our Portillo's Perks loyalty platform. this is in addition to other targeted offers we ran during the quarter on our portillo's perks loyalty platform During April, we have seen negative comp trends of roughly a point, driven primarily by negative transaction and mix trends as we are lapping the benefit of our breakfast pilot from the prior year. during april we have seen negative comp trends of roughly a point driven primarily by negative transaction and mix trends as we are lapping the benefit of our breakfast pilot from the prior year We expect to have continued headwinds in May as we will be lapping our BOGO Beef promotion from the prior year. we expect to have continued headwinds in may as we will be lapping our bogo beef promotion from the prior year As Brett discussed, we will focus on three foundational areas which we believe will lead to improved sales and transactions and restaurant-level profitability for the long term. as brett discussed we will focus on three foundational areas which we believe will lead to improved sales and transactions and restaurant-level profitability for the long term Turning to costs, food, beverage, and packaging costs increased to 34.7% of revenues in the quarter from 34.6% last year. turning to costs food beverage and packaging costs increased to 34.7% of revenues in the quarter from 34.6% last year This increase was driven primarily by higher commodity costs of 1.8%, led by beef and produce, partially offset by an increase in certain menu prices net of promotional offers. Labor expense increased to 26.9% of revenues from 26.6% in the prior year, primarily due to deleverage from our new restaurant openings, higher benefit costs and wage inflation, partially offset by labor efficiencies. Hourly wage rates increased approximately 1.5% in the quarter compared to prior year. Other operating expenses increased $2.3 million or 10.7%, primarily driven by the opening of new restaurants and higher repairs and maintenance expenses. As a percentage of revenues, other operating expenses increased to 13.2% from 12.4%. This increase was driven primarily by higher commodity costs of 1.8%, led by beef and produce, partially offset by an increase in certain menu prices net of promotional offers. this increase was driven primarily by higher commodity costs of 1.8% led by beef and produce partially offset by an increase in certain menu prices net of promotional offers Labor expense increased to 26.9% of revenues from 26.6% in the prior year, primarily due to deleverage from our new restaurant openings, higher benefit costs and wage inflation, partially offset by labor efficiencies. labor expense increased to 26.9% of revenues from 26.6% in the prior year primarily due to deleverage from our new restaurant openings higher benefit costs and wage inflation partially offset by labor efficiencies Hourly wage rates increased approximately 1.5% in the quarter compared to prior year. hourly wage rates increased approximately 1.5% in the quarter compared to prior year Other operating expenses increased $2.3 million or 10.7%, primarily driven by the opening of new restaurants and higher repairs and maintenance expenses. other operating expenses increased $2.3 million or 10.7% primarily driven by the opening of new restaurants and higher repairs and maintenance expenses As a percentage of revenues, other operating expenses increased to 13.2% from 12.4%. as a percentage of revenues other operating expenses increased to 13.2% from 12.4% Occupancy expenses increased $1.2 million or 11.6%, also driven by the opening of new restaurants. As a percentage of revenues, occupancy expenses increased 0.4% compared to the prior year, driven by higher occupancy costs and revenue deleverage at new restaurants. Restaurant-level adjusted EBITDA decreased $1.8 million-$34.8 million, with margins declining approximately 170 basis points to 19.1% in the quarter versus 20.8% in the prior year. General and administrative expenses increased by $1.5 million -$20.4 million or 11.1% of revenue in the quarter from $18.9 million or 10.7%. This increase was primarily driven by higher equity-based compensation and professional fees, including $0.5 million of dead site costs. Occupancy expenses increased $1.2 million or 11.6%, also driven by the opening of new restaurants. occupancy expenses increased $1.2 million or 11.6% also driven by the opening of new restaurants As a percentage of revenues, occupancy expenses increased 0.4% compared to the prior year, driven by higher occupancy costs and revenue deleverage at new restaurants. as a percentage of revenues occupancy expenses increased 0.4% compared to the prior year driven by higher occupancy costs and revenue deleverage at new restaurants Restaurant-level adjusted EBITDA decreased $1.8 million - $34.8 million, with margins declining approximately 170 basis points to 19.1% in the quarter versus 20.8% in the prior year. General and administrative expenses increased by $1.5 million - $20.4 million or 11.1% of revenue in the quarter from $18.9 million or 10.7%. restaurant-level adjusted ebitda decreased $1.8 million - $34.8 million with margins declining approximately 170 basis points to 19.1% in the quarter versus 20.8% in the prior year. general and administrative expenses increased by $1.5 million - $20.4 million or 11.1% of revenue in the quarter from $18.9 million or 10.7% This increase was primarily driven by higher equity-based compensation and professional fees, including $0.5 million of dead site costs. this increase was primarily driven by higher equity-based compensation and professional fees including $0.5 million of dead site costs As we refine our development strategy, we will continue to evaluate our pipeline. Pre-opening expenses were $2.6 million in the quarter compared to $0.5 million last year, reflecting the timing and scale of activities related to our planned restaurant openings, including expansion into new markets. Adjusted EBITDA decreased by $2.8 million to $18.5 million or 10.1% of revenue from $21.2 million or 12% of revenue in the prior year. Below the EBITDA line, interest expense was $5.6 million in the quarter, down slightly from last year, driven by a lower effective interest rate. Income tax benefit was $0.2 million in the quarter compared to expense of $1.4 million in the prior year. As we refine our development strategy, we will continue to evaluate our pipeline. as we refine our development strategy we will continue to evaluate our pipeline Pre-opening expenses were $2.6 million in the quarter compared to $0.5 million last year, reflecting the timing and scale of activities related to our planned restaurant openings, including expansion into new markets. pre-opening expenses were $2.6 million in the quarter compared to $0.5 million last year reflecting the timing and scale of activities related to our planned restaurant openings including expansion into new markets Adjusted EBITDA decreased by $2.8 million to $18.5 million or 10.1% of revenue from $21.2 million or 12% of revenue in the prior year. adjusted ebitda decreased by $2.8 million to $18.5 million or 10.1% of revenue from $21.2 million or 12% of revenue in the prior year Below the EBITDA line, interest expense was $5.6 million in the quarter, down slightly from last year, driven by a lower effective interest rate. below the ebitda line interest expense was $5.6 million in the quarter down slightly from last year driven by a lower effective interest rate Income tax benefit was $0.2 million in the quarter compared to expense of $1.4 million in the prior year. income tax benefit was $0.2 million in the quarter compared to expense of $1.4 million in the prior year Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 24.4% versus 25.4% in the prior year, reflecting changes in our valuation allowance related to equity-based compensation expense. Since the end of the quarter, we have opened one additional restaurant in Frisco, Texas, and expect to open three additional locations during the remainder of 2026, including our first airport location at DFW International Airport and our second in-line location, which will be in downtown Chicago. Cash provided by operating activities increased 85.8% year-over-year to $17.6 million year-to-date. We ended the quarter with $24 million in cash. We had $104 million outstanding on our revolver, total net debt of $347 million and approximately $42 million of remaining revolver capacity. Thanks for your time today. Operator, please open the line for questions. Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 24.4% versus 25.4% in the prior year, reflecting changes in our valuation allowance related to equity-based compensation expense. our effective tax rate for the quarter was 24.4% versus 25.4% in the prior year reflecting changes in our valuation allowance related to equity-based compensation expense Since the end of the quarter, we have opened one additional restaurant in Frisco, Texas, and expect to open three additional locations during the remainder of 2026, including our first airport location at DFW International Airport and our second in-line location, which will be in downtown Chicago. since the end of the quarter we have opened one additional restaurant in frisco texas and expect to open three additional locations during the remainder of 2026 including our first airport location at dfw international airport and our second in-line location which will be in downtown chicago Cash provided by operating activities increased 85.8% year-over-year to $17.6 million year- to- date. cash provided by operating activities increased 85.8% year-over-year to $17.6 million year- to- date We ended the quarter with $24 million in cash. we ended the quarter with $24 million in cash We had $104 million outstanding on our revolver, total net debt of $347 million and approximately $42 million of remaining revolver capacity. we had $104 million outstanding on our revolver total net debt of $347 million and approximately $42 million of remaining revolver capacity Thanks for your time today. thanks for your time today Operator, please open the line for questions. operator please open the line for questions
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Speaker 10: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Michelle, best of luck. Thanks for all the collaboration. I just wanted to ask on the first quarter comp, can you give us a sense of how that progressed through the quarter? I know January had some weather. Did you guys see February and March showing sequential improvement? Just ex-that breakfast lap that you mentioned in April, how are underlying transactions trending in April? Thank you. Hi, guys. hi guys Thanks for taking my question. thanks for taking my question Michelle, best of luck. michelle best of luck Thanks for all the collaboration. thanks for all the collaboration I just wanted to ask on the first quarter comp, can you give us a sense of how that progressed through the quarter? i just wanted to ask on the first quarter comp can you give us a sense of how that progressed through the quarter I know January had some weather. i know january had some weather Did you guys see February and March showing sequential improvement? did you guys see february and march showing sequential improvement Just ex-that breakfast lap that you mentioned in April, how are underlying transactions trending in April? just ex-that breakfast lap that you mentioned in april how are underlying transactions trending in april Thank you. thank you
Speaker 12: Yeah, Margaret May. Thank you. I'll take that. Yeah, you're absolutely right. We were not immune to the weather conditions that hit in January, so we definitely saw that negativity come into play in January. Then obviously as the quarter progressed, we saw improvement. You know, I talked about and Brett talked about some of the things that we did in Q1 that helped to contribute to the results that you saw in the quarter. Yes, we did see some improvement in the quarter. Then when we look at April, we're seeing negative trends that's primarily coming in the form of transactions. We do continue to see some negative trends in mix as well, and that's primarily driven by what I describe as more trade downs versus items on the ticket. Yeah, Margaret May. yeah margaret may Thank you. thank you I'll take that. i'll take that Yeah, you're absolutely right. yeah you're absolutely right We were not immune to the weather conditions that hit in January, so we definitely saw that negativity come into play in January. we were not immune to the weather conditions that hit in january so we definitely saw that negativity come into play in january Then obviously as the quarter progressed, we saw improvement. then obviously as the quarter progressed we saw improvement You know, I talked about and Brett talked about some of the things that we did in Q1 that helped to contribute to the results that you saw in the quarter. you know i talked about and brett talked about some of the things that we did in q1 that helped to contribute to the results that you saw in the quarter Yes, we did see some improvement in the quarter. yes we did see some improvement in the quarter Then when we look at April, we're seeing negative trends that's primarily coming in the form of transactions. then when we look at april we're seeing negative trends that's primarily coming in the form of transactions We do continue to see some negative trends in mix as well, and that's primarily driven by what I describe as more trade downs versus items on the ticket. we do continue to see some negative trends in mix as well and that's primarily driven by what i describe as more trade downs versus items on the ticket Those are the trends that we're seeing throughout the month of April. Those are the trends that we're seeing throughout the month of April. those are the trends that we're seeing throughout the month of april
Speaker 10: Thanks so much. Thanks so much. thanks so much
Speaker 12: Yep. Yep. yep
Speaker 13: Our next question will come from Gregory Francfort with Guggenheim. Our next question will come from Gregory Francfort with Guggenheim. our next question will come from gregory francfort with guggenheim
Speaker 7: Hey, thanks for the question. Just maybe the other OpEx line, can you maybe parse out, that looks up quite a bit. Is that utilities? Is that maybe delivery fees or something like that? I'm just curious what might have been driving that. Hey, thanks for the question. hey thanks for the question Just maybe the other OpEx line, can you maybe parse out, that looks up quite a bit. just maybe the other opex line can you maybe parse out that looks up quite a bit Is that utilities? is that utilities Is that maybe delivery fees or something like that? is that maybe delivery fees or something like that I'm just curious what might have been driving that. i'm just curious what might have been driving that
Speaker 12: Greg, we did see some impacts earlier in the quarter from the weather. We saw some higher utilities, some higher, what I describe as, you know, snow maintenance and removal expenses, that drove some variability in the repairs and maintenance line. Those are the specifics that we saw. Again, I'd call some of that more attributable to the weather conditions that we saw. That's the call out I'd make on that. Greg, we did see some impacts earlier in the quarter from the weather. greg we did see some impacts earlier in the quarter from the weather We saw some higher utilities, some higher, what I describe as, you know, snow maintenance and removal expenses, that drove some variability in the repairs and maintenance line. we saw some higher utilities some higher what i describe as you know snow maintenance and removal expenses that drove some variability in the repairs and maintenance line Those are the specifics that we saw. those are the specifics that we saw Again, I'd call some of that more attributable to the weather conditions that we saw. again i'd call some of that more attributable to the weather conditions that we saw That's the call out I'd make on that. that's the call out i'd make on that
Speaker 7: Got it. Then just with maybe pricing in the quarter, I mean, clearly Perks is having a big negative impact, but that might be part of just what you're trying to do strategically. Can you maybe parse through, like, I guess you would have expected to have an impact on consumer value perceptions. Is there an expected delay in terms of, you know, kind of, you know, having more controlled pricing and when the consumer might pick up on that, and if that impacts traffic on a six-month delay or a 12-month delay? Any thoughts on that would be great. Got it. got it Then just with maybe pricing in the quarter, I mean, clearly Perks is having a big negative impact, but that might be part of just what you're trying to do strategically. then just with maybe pricing in the quarter i mean clearly perks is having a big negative impact but that might be part of just what you're trying to do strategically Can you maybe parse through, like, I guess you would have expected to have an impact on consumer value perceptions. can you maybe parse through like i guess you would have expected to have an impact on consumer value perceptions Is there an expected delay in terms of, you know, kind of, you know, having more controlled pricing and when the consumer might pick up on that, and if that impacts traffic on a six-month delay or a 12-month delay? is there an expected delay in terms of you know kind of you know having more controlled pricing and when the consumer might pick up on that and if that impacts traffic on a six-month delay or a 12-month delay Any thoughts on that would be great. any thoughts on that would be great
Speaker 12: Yeah, Greg. We had two things that impacted that net pricing in the quarter. We had our Big Burger Bundle meal. That was the burger, fries, and a drink meal we were running for $9.99. That definitely impacted the net pricing, as well as the Perks offers that we were running in the quarter as well. I would say just from a consumer perspective, you're right. As people go into these offers, whether it's the Big Burger Bundle that we were running or Perks offers, there's definitely a lag in terms of, you know, that value perception. We continue to focus on those value perception scores. Yeah, Greg. yeah greg We had two things that impacted that net pricing in the quarter. we had two things that impacted that net pricing in the quarter We had our Big Burger Bundle meal. we had our big burger bundle meal That was the burger, fries, and a drink meal we were running for $9.99. that was the burger fries and a drink meal we were running for $9.99 That definitely impacted the net pricing, as well as the Perks offers that we were running in the quarter as well. that definitely impacted the net pricing as well as the perks offers that we were running in the quarter as well I would say just from a consumer perspective, you're right. i would say just from a consumer perspective you're right As people go into these offers, whether it's the Big Burger Bundle that we were running or Perks offers, there's definitely a lag in terms of, you know, that value perception. as people go into these offers whether it's the big burger bundle that we were running or perks offers there's definitely a lag in terms of you know that value perception We continue to focus on those value perception scores. we continue to focus on those value perception scores You know, as Brett and the team look towards our strategies in the future, I think, you know, what plays a role in that could be many things, whether it's, you know, continuing to look at value in the form of Perks offers or, you know, menu offerings. We're currently running, you know, our new Hot and Saucy Beef promotion right now. Not really a discount, but more of an LTO. There is a lag to your point that I think, as people go into those that they come out with. The goal is to obviously drive frequency of visits and attract new guests into our brand. Those were the things that we were looking at post-promotion as well to determine if there was success or not. You know, as Brett and the team look towards our strategies in the future, I think, you know, what plays a role in that could be many things, whether it's, you know, continuing to look at value in the form of Perks offers or, you know, menu offerings. you know as brett and the team look towards our strategies in the future i think you know what plays a role in that could be many things whether it's you know continuing to look at value in the form of perks offers or you know menu offerings We're currently running, you know, our new Hot and Saucy Beef promotion right now. we're currently running you know our new hot and saucy beef promotion right now Not really a discount, but more of an LTO. not really a discount but more of an lto There is a lag to your point that I think, as people go into those that they come out with. there is a lag to your point that i think as people go into those that they come out with The goal is to obviously drive frequency of visits and attract new guests into our brand. the goal is to obviously drive frequency of visits and attract new guests into our brand Those were the things that we were looking at post-promotion as well to determine if there was success or not. those were the things that we were looking at post-promotion as well to determine if there was success or not
Speaker 1: Hey, Greg, this is Brett. I would also just chime in that as Michelle mentioned, we're looking at the numerator of the value equation as well. If you think about our strategy when we're starting with ops excellence, one of the things we need to do is make sure that we're delivering or exceeding the expectations of the folks coming in that are paying full price. I think the second lever that we'll explore as part of the strategy is gonna be the use of food innovation to create value. Not just locking in on, you know, a fully discounted value offer, but how do we use innovation to talk about value? How do we use marketing to talk more about value? Hey, Greg, this is Brett. hey greg this is brett I would also just chime in that as Michelle mentioned, we're looking at the numerator of the value equation as well. i would also just chime in that as michelle mentioned we're looking at the numerator of the value equation as well If you think about our strategy when we're starting with ops excellence, one of the things we need to do is make sure that we're delivering or exceeding the expectations of the folks coming in that are paying full price. if you think about our strategy when we're starting with ops excellence one of the things we need to do is make sure that we're delivering or exceeding the expectations of the folks coming in that are paying full price I think the second lever that we'll explore as part of the strategy is gonna be the use of food innovation to create value. i think the second lever that we'll explore as part of the strategy is gonna be the use of food innovation to create value Not just locking in on, you know, a fully discounted value offer, but how do we use innovation to talk about value? not just locking in on you know a fully discounted value offer but how do we use innovation to talk about value How do we use marketing to talk more about value? how do we use marketing to talk more about value We certainly know it's a drive for the business and kind of where the consumer's at today, it's important. Not locking ourselves into just going after kind of this discounted promotional model. We certainly know it's a drive for the business and kind of where the consumer's at today, it's important. we certainly know it's a drive for the business and kind of where the consumer's at today it's important Not locking ourselves into just going after kind of this discounted promotional model. not locking ourselves into just going after kind of this discounted promotional model
Speaker 13: Again, that is star one to ask a question. Also, please limit yourself to one question. We'll go next to Sara Senatore with Bank of America. Again, that is star one to ask a question. again that is star one to ask a question Also, please limit yourself to one question. also please limit yourself to one question We'll go next to Sara Senatore with Bank of America. we'll go next to sara senatore with bank of america
Speaker 14: Thank you. Sorry, just a quick clarification then a question about the real estate strategy. For Q2, Sara's trying to follow some of the rolling off of prices. Did you say what the effective price will be in the second quarter? Is it, you know, could it be negative? Thank you. thank you Sorry, just a quick clarification then a question about the real estate strategy. sorry just a quick clarification then a question about the real estate strategy For Q2, Sara's trying to follow some of the rolling off of prices. for q2 sara's trying to follow some of the rolling off of prices Did you say what the effective price will be in the second quarter? did you say what the effective price will be in the second quarter Is it, you know, could it be negative? is it you know could it be negative
Speaker 12: Hi, Sara. We don't anticipate it being negative. We're not, you know, the Big Burger Bundle came off, you know, being an offer we were running at the end of Q1. You know, we're running some various Perks offers as well, we don't expect that to be negative. Just to clarify, we took a two percentage points of a pricing increase at the beginning of April. We had a point that rolled off midway through April, we have around 0.7% that'll be in effect until June. Think of it as we sit here today. You had a little bit higher pricing in April, the point just under 4% in April, you had that point that rolled off. As we sit here in May, we're just under 3%. Hi, Sara. hi sara We don't anticipate it being negative. we don't anticipate it being negative We're not, you know, the Big Burger Bundle came off, you know, being an offer we were running at the end of Q1. we're not you know the big burger bundle came off you know being an offer we were running at the end of q1 You know, we're running some various Perks offers as well, we don't expect that to be negative. you know we're running some various perks offers as well we don't expect that to be negative Just to clarify, we took a two percentage points of a pricing increase at the beginning of April. just to clarify we took a two percentage points of a pricing increase at the beginning of april We had a point that rolled off midway through April, we have around 0.7% that'll be in effect until June. we had a point that rolled off midway through april we have around 0.7% that'll be in effect until june Think of it as we sit here today. think of it as we sit here today You had a little bit higher pricing in April, the point just under 4% in April, you had that point that rolled off. you had a little bit higher pricing in april the point just under 4% in april you had that point that rolled off As we sit here in May, we're just under 3%. as we sit here in may we're just under 3%
Speaker 14: Okay, thank you. I appreciate that. Then, I guess, you mentioned, I guess, half a million of dead site costs. It sounds like you're already making some changes to the sites, you know, in terms of what you might have identified before versus where you're deciding to build. I know, you know, I know the Chief Development Officer, she just, you know, she's relatively, I guess, recent. Anything you can sort of address in terms of, you know, what changes maybe you're or what sites you may be abandoning versus, you know, how you're thinking about going forward. Okay, thank you. okay thank you I appreciate that. i appreciate that Then, I guess, you mentioned, I guess, half a million of dead site costs. then i guess you mentioned i guess half a million of dead site costs It sounds like you're already making some changes to the sites, you know, in terms of what you might have identified before versus where you're deciding to build. it sounds like you're already making some changes to the sites you know in terms of what you might have identified before versus where you're deciding to build I know, you know, I know the Chief Development Officer, she just, you know, she's relatively, I guess, recent. i know you know i know the chief development officer she just you know she's relatively i guess recent Anything you can sort of address in terms of, you know, what changes maybe you're or what sites you may be abandoning versus, you know, how you're thinking about going forward. anything you can sort of address in terms of you know what changes maybe you're or what sites you may be abandoning versus you know how you're thinking about going forward
Speaker 1: Hey, Sara, this is Brett. Yeah, I'll take that. As far as, yeah, Jennifer is fairly new, but I've, she's hit the ground running. I think the team and Jennifer have been really focused on kinda just reassessing the entire development strategy. You know, the 2026 sites were locked, and those, you know, will be finished after we open the next three this year. We did have an opportunity for some of the 2027 class to take a look at whether some sites we could potentially get out of. I don't wanna share specifically what those were, but we have made some decisions to get out of a couple of them. Hey, Sara, this is Brett. hey sara this is brett Yeah, I'll take that. yeah i'll take that As far as, yeah, Jennifer is fairly new, but I've, she's hit the ground running. as far as yeah jennifer is fairly new but i've she's hit the ground running I think the team and Jennifer have been really focused on kinda just reassessing the entire development strategy. i think the team and jennifer have been really focused on kinda just reassessing the entire development strategy You know, the 2026 sites were locked, and those, you know, will be finished after we open the next three this year. you know the 2026 sites were locked and those you know will be finished after we open the next three this year We did have an opportunity for some of the 2027 class to take a look at whether some sites we could potentially get out of. we did have an opportunity for some of the 2027 class to take a look at whether some sites we could potentially get out of I don't wanna share specifically what those were, but we have made some decisions to get out of a couple of them. i don't wanna share specifically what those were but we have made some decisions to get out of a couple of them I would say in 2027, and, you know, we're probably gonna be in somewhere the four to six range for openings, and that's why you'll see some dead site costs coming into last quarter and potentially Q2 as well. I would say in 2027, and, you know, we're probably gonna be in somewhere the four to six range for openings, and that's why you'll see some dead site costs coming into last quarter and potentially Q2 as well. i would say in 2027 and you know we're probably gonna be in somewhere the four to six range for openings and that's why you'll see some dead site costs coming into last quarter and potentially q2 as well
Speaker 13: We'll go next to JP Wollam with ROTH Capital Partners. We'll go next to JP Wollam with ROTH Capital Partners. we'll go next to jp wollam with roth capital partners
Speaker 8: Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I was hoping if we could just maybe talk in terms of productivity in the new Texas stores. You know, understanding, Brett, to your point, a lot of those sites were kind of already baked, we could say. Great. great Good morning. good morning Thanks for taking my question. thanks for taking my question I was hoping if we could just maybe talk in terms of productivity in the new Texas stores. i was hoping if we could just maybe talk in terms of productivity in the new texas stores You know, understanding, Brett, to your point, a lot of those sites were kind of already baked, we could say. you know understanding brett to your point a lot of those sites were kind of already baked we could say
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. yeah
Speaker 8: Just in terms of the openings, you know, how are you thinking about productivity, efficiency in terms of labor and back of house, and just any other new takeaways from this year's Texas openings? Just in terms of the openings, you know, how are you thinking about productivity, efficiency in terms of labor and back of house, and just any other new takeaways from this year's Texas openings? just in terms of the openings you know how are you thinking about productivity efficiency in terms of labor and back of house and just any other new takeaways from this year's texas openings
Speaker 1: Yeah, JP, thank you. You know, I would tell you that the team has done a really good job coming out of 2025 in the first quarter addressing some of those productivity opportunities. Tony, you know, our Chief Operating Officer has been very involved with the kind of the Texas turnaround. I'd say we've seen some improvement, sequential improvement in back house labor productivity. There's still opportunity. I think we've, you know, we've gotta really take a look at kind of the analogs of similar volumes outside of Texas and how those perform and use that as kind of a benchmark for our Texas teams. I know Tony and the team are starting to do that work now. I still think there's opportunities there. Yeah, JP, thank you. yeah jp thank you You know, I would tell you that the team has done a really good job coming out of 2025 in the first quarter addressing some of those productivity opportunities. you know i would tell you that the team has done a really good job coming out of 2025 in the first quarter addressing some of those productivity opportunities Tony, you know, our Chief Operating Officer has been very involved with the kind of the Texas turnaround. tony you know our chief operating officer has been very involved with the kind of the texas turnaround I'd say we've seen some improvement, sequential improvement in back house labor productivity. i'd say we've seen some improvement sequential improvement in back house labor productivity There's still opportunity. there's still opportunity I think we've, you know, we've gotta really take a look at kind of the analogs of similar volumes outside of Texas and how those perform and use that as kind of a benchmark for our Texas teams. i think we've you know we've gotta really take a look at kind of the analogs of similar volumes outside of texas and how those perform and use that as kind of a benchmark for our texas teams I know Tony and the team are starting to do that work now. i know tony and the team are starting to do that work now I still think there's opportunities there. i still think there's opportunities there Certainly, we've got to drive the top line. That's more of our focus. We don't wanna, you know, cut ourselves to the point we can't grow top line. Denise is still working very actively on a very integrated marketing plan for Texas. We'll continue to see some productivity improvements in Texas as well as some top-line growth. Certainly, we've got to drive the top line. certainly we've got to drive the top line That's more of our focus. that's more of our focus We don't wanna, you know, cut ourselves to the point we can't grow top line. we don't wanna you know cut ourselves to the point we can't grow top line Denise is still working very actively on a very integrated marketing plan for Texas. denise is still working very actively on a very integrated marketing plan for texas We'll continue to see some productivity improvements in Texas as well as some top-line growth. we'll continue to see some productivity improvements in texas as well as some top-line growth
Speaker 8: Great. Thank you. Great. great Thank you. thank you
Speaker 13: Moving on to Chris O'Cull with Stifel. Moving on to Chris O'Cull with Stifel. moving on to chris o'cull with stifel
Speaker 4: Thanks. Good morning, guys. Michelle, Allison will wish you well and hope to work with you again. Thanks. thanks Good morning, guys. good morning guys Michelle, Allison will wish you well and hope to work with you again. michelle allison will wish you well and hope to work with you again
Speaker 12: Thanks, Chris. Thanks, Chris. thanks chris
Speaker 4: Maybe, I don't know if this question is for Michelle or Brett, but can you explain the sharp decline in annualized AUVs for the 2025 class during the quarter relative to the fourth quarter? Maybe, I don't know if this question is for Michelle or Brett, but can you explain the sharp decline in annualized AUVs for the 2025 class during the quarter relative to the fourth quarter? maybe i don't know if this question is for michelle or brett but can you explain the sharp decline in annualized auvs for the 2025 class during the quarter relative to the fourth quarter
Speaker 12: When you look at the class of 25, Chris, we had openings that were in the back half of the year. One of those openings was a restaurant we were very public about, which was our first in Atlanta in Kennesaw. I think we talked about that having a very robust opening when we opened Kennesaw in November. Obviously, you know us, you know there's a honeymoon curve right to the performance of those restaurants. As those volumes start to settle down, specifically for that restaurant, you see some impacts coming in there. That, that's part of what you're seeing in some of that. I'd call out that one specifically. When you look at the class of 25, Chris, we had openings that were in the back half of the year. when you look at the class of 25 chris we had openings that were in the back half of the year One of those openings was a restaurant we were very public about, which was our first in Atlanta in Kennesaw. one of those openings was a restaurant we were very public about which was our first in atlanta in kennesaw I think we talked about that having a very robust opening when we opened Kennesaw in November. i think we talked about that having a very robust opening when we opened kennesaw in november Obviously, you know us, you know there's a honeymoon curve right to the performance of those restaurants. obviously you know us you know there's a honeymoon curve right to the performance of those restaurants As those volumes start to settle down, specifically for that restaurant, you see some impacts coming in there. as those volumes start to settle down specifically for that restaurant you see some impacts coming in there That, that's part of what you're seeing in some of that. that that's part of what you're seeing in some of that I'd call out that one specifically. i'd call out that one specifically
Speaker 4: Brett, why don't you think customer retention isn't higher once you get these strong responses to the initial opening? Do you have any assessment of that? Brett, why don't you think customer retention isn't higher once you get these strong responses to the initial opening? brett why don't you think customer retention isn't higher once you get these strong responses to the initial opening Do you have any assessment of that? do you have any assessment of that
Speaker 1: I think it's a really good question, Chris. I think there's a real opportunity for us to learn more about kind of the consumer base when we go into these new markets. Certainly, you know, you do see a pretty steep honeymoon. It's a little more steep than I'm used to in my past. I don't know how much that has to do with our ability to drive quick awareness out of the gate, and that kind of wanes off over time. I'd say don't have the answer now, but it is certainly something we need to continue to explore, you know, to better understand that and how do we prop it up during that kind of down cycle in the honeymoon. I think it's a really good question, Chris. i think it's a really good question chris I think there's a real opportunity for us to learn more about kind of the consumer base when we go into these new markets. i think there's a real opportunity for us to learn more about kind of the consumer base when we go into these new markets Certainly, you know, you do see a pretty steep honeymoon. certainly you know you do see a pretty steep honeymoon It's a little more steep than I'm used to in my past. it's a little more steep than i'm used to in my past I don't know how much that has to do with our ability to drive quick awareness out of the gate, and that kind of wanes off over time. i don't know how much that has to do with our ability to drive quick awareness out of the gate and that kind of wanes off over time I'd say don't have the answer now, but it is certainly something we need to continue to explore, you know, to better understand that and how do we prop it up during that kind of down cycle in the honeymoon. i'd say don't have the answer now but it is certainly something we need to continue to explore you know to better understand that and how do we prop it up during that kind of down cycle in the honeymoon You know, I would tell you, the one thing I would add is you generally see, though, very high metrics still from a, you know, from a customer satisfaction Net Promoter Score. There's nothing that jumps off that says, you know, you didn't open it well and now, you've disappointed a lot of guests. They seem very, very, you know, engaged and connected to the brand. Again, that frequency is gonna be something we really have to understand. You know, I would tell you, the one thing I would add is you generally see, though, very high metrics still from a, you know, from a customer satisfaction Net Promoter Score. you know i would tell you the one thing i would add is you generally see though very high metrics still from a you know from a customer satisfaction net promoter score There's nothing that jumps off that says, you know, you didn't open it well and now, you've disappointed a lot of guests. there's nothing that jumps off that says you know you didn't open it well and now you've disappointed a lot of guests They seem very, very, you know, engaged and connected to the brand. they seem very very you know engaged and connected to the brand Again, that frequency is gonna be something we really have to understand. again that frequency is gonna be something we really have to understand
Speaker 13: Our next question comes from Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Our next question comes from Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. our next question comes from sharon zackfia with william blair
Speaker 15: Hi, good morning. You know, sorry to see Michelle go. It's been a pleasure working with you. Hi, good morning. hi good morning You know, sorry to see Michelle go. you know sorry to see michelle go It's been a pleasure working with you. it's been a pleasure working with you
Speaker 12: Thanks, Sharon. Thanks, Sharon. thanks sharon
Speaker 15: I did wanna ask about kind of menu innovation versus Perks. It seems like you're having more success with Perks driving traffic, and I'm curious if there's anything there that you could call out specifically that worked well in the first quarter that you plan to replicate or evolve. Secondarily, as we think about those non-Chicago markets, how is innovation resonating in those markets? Thank you. I did wanna ask about kind of menu innovation versus Perks. i did wanna ask about kind of menu innovation versus perks It seems like you're having more success with Perks driving traffic, and I'm curious if there's anything there that you could call out specifically that worked well in the first quarter that you plan to replicate or evolve. it seems like you're having more success with perks driving traffic and i'm curious if there's anything there that you could call out specifically that worked well in the first quarter that you plan to replicate or evolve Secondarily, as we think about those non-Chicago markets, how is innovation resonating in those markets? secondarily as we think about those non-chicago markets how is innovation resonating in those markets Thank you. thank you
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, good morning. Thank you for the question. You know, I'll speak to the Perks piece. The one thing we have seen is continued growth and penetration. We, you know, in Q1, we saw 3% more penetration from Perks than Q4. I think the real unlock there is for us to continue to better understand our customer cohorts and how do we tailor messages specific to those cohorts based on their visit frequency. I know Denise and the team really You know, there's a lot of test and learn going on for that right now. Yeah. yeah Hey, good morning. hey good morning Thank you for the question. thank you for the question You know, I'll speak to the Perks piece. you know i'll speak to the perks piece The one thing we have seen is continued growth and penetration. the one thing we have seen is continued growth and penetration We, you know, in Q1, we saw 3% more penetration from Perks than Q4. we you know in q1 we saw 3% more penetration from perks than q4 I think the real unlock there is for us to continue to better understand our customer cohorts and how do we tailor messages specific to those cohorts based on their visit frequency. i think the real unlock there is for us to continue to better understand our customer cohorts and how do we tailor messages specific to those cohorts based on their visit frequency I know Denise and the team really You know, there's a lot of test and learn going on for that right now. i know denise and the team really you know there's a lot of test and learn going on for that right now We did see some You know, what we've seen when we do Perks offers around kind of, you know, special events or holidays, we do get a really strong reaction, like opening Major League Baseball day with, buy one hot dog, get one free. We've seen those really work well for us. But it's not something that we see as kind of this, you know, on every day type scenario. You know, we had the Big Burger Bundle was a big driver in quarter one, as well, for the traffic. I think it was a combination of both. Your question on the innovation, I think there's really an opportunity to learn. We did see some You know, what we've seen when we do Perks offers around kind of, you know, special events or holidays, we do get a really strong reaction, like opening Major League Baseball day with, buy one hot dog, get one free. we did see some you know what we've seen when we do perks offers around kind of you know special events or holidays we do get a really strong reaction like opening major league baseball day with buy one hot dog get one free We've seen those really work well for us. we've seen those really work well for us But it's not something that we see as kind of this, you know, on every day type scenario. but it's not something that we see as kind of this you know on every day type scenario You know, we had the Big Burger Bundle was a big driver in quarter one, as well, for the traffic. you know we had the big burger bundle was a big driver in quarter one as well for the traffic I think it was a combination of both. i think it was a combination of both Your question on the innovation, I think there's really an opportunity to learn. your question on the innovation i think there's really an opportunity to learn I wouldn't say we've had significant, meaningful innovation yet, when we've really introduced new items or new item format. I do believe, you know, once we get out of Chicago and have different, you know, understanding in different markets of what those items can be, and I think it'll play an important role in the future for us. I wouldn't say we've had significant, meaningful innovation yet, when we've really introduced new items or new item format. i wouldn't say we've had significant meaningful innovation yet when we've really introduced new items or new item format I do believe, you know, once we get out of Chicago and have different, you know, understanding in different markets of what those items can be, and I think it'll play an important role in the future for us. i do believe you know once we get out of chicago and have different you know understanding in different markets of what those items can be and i think it'll play an important role in the future for us
Speaker 13: Moving next to David Tarantino with Baird. Moving next to David Tarantino with Baird. moving next to david tarantino with baird
Speaker 5: Hi, good morning. Brett, I'd be interested to hear more about your vision for how Portillo's should grow over time. I know you have a lot of foundational work that you outlined that you need to complete, but, you know, once that work's done, what are you gonna be looking for to make the decision on re-accelerating the growth? What type of growth do you think Portillo's can deliver longer term if you get it right? Thanks. Hi, good morning. hi good morning Brett, I'd be interested to hear more about your vision for how Portillo's should grow over time. brett i'd be interested to hear more about your vision for how portillo's should grow over time I know you have a lot of foundational work that you outlined that you need to complete, but, you know, once that work's done, what are you gonna be looking for to make the decision on re-accelerating the growth? i know you have a lot of foundational work that you outlined that you need to complete but you know once that work's done what are you gonna be looking for to make the decision on re-accelerating the growth What type of growth do you think Portillo's can deliver longer term if you get it right? what type of growth do you think portillo's can deliver longer term if you get it right Thanks. thanks
Speaker 1: Yeah, David, thanks for the question. I, you know, speaking to the development piece, I would tell you know, right now, we're turning over every stone to understand every piece of development and what we can learn from the past, and then creating certainly a better future for development. What I'll share, again, without having the facts, as you mentioned, we've got a lot of research to do and insights, but I will tell you there's an opportunity. Certainly, number one, we've got to make sure we have the real estate forecast model dialed in, because that really informs site selection. Yeah, David, thanks for the question. yeah david thanks for the question I, you know, speaking to the development piece, I would tell you know, right now, we're turning over every stone to understand every piece of development and what we can learn from the past, and then creating certainly a better future for development. i you know speaking to the development piece i would tell you know right now we're turning over every stone to understand every piece of development and what we can learn from the past and then creating certainly a better future for development What I'll share, again, without having the facts, as you mentioned, we've got a lot of research to do and insights, but I will tell you there's an opportunity. what i'll share again without having the facts as you mentioned we've got a lot of research to do and insights but i will tell you there's an opportunity Certainly, number one, we've got to make sure we have the real estate forecast model dialed in, because that really informs site selection. certainly number one we've got to make sure we have the real estate forecast model dialed in because that really informs site selection I think there's an opportunity when we go to new markets with low, low awareness, the type of site we choose is imperative that it's a site that generates high awareness versus they have to find you. There's prototype work we're going to do. We're going to explore, you know, what are the best formats that can generate the best returns to the restaurant and still execute high volume. I know Michelle really led the project with the team to get to the 2.0. We're excited to see that come to life. So I would tell you that everything's under review including build cost. We'll come back to you at a later date with what we think that means for the future. I think there's an opportunity when we go to new markets with low, low awareness, the type of site we choose is imperative that it's a site that generates high awareness versus they have to find you. i think there's an opportunity when we go to new markets with low low awareness the type of site we choose is imperative that it's a site that generates high awareness versus they have to find you There's prototype work we're going to do. there's prototype work we're going to do We're going to explore, you know, what are the best formats that can generate the best returns to the restaurant and still execute high volume. we're going to explore you know what are the best formats that can generate the best returns to the restaurant and still execute high volume I know Michelle really led the project with the team to get to the 2.0. i know michelle really led the project with the team to get to the 2.0 We're excited to see that come to life. we're excited to see that come to life So I would tell you that everything's under review including build cost. so i would tell you that everything's under review including build cost We'll come back to you at a later date with what we think that means for the future. we'll come back to you at a later date with what we think that means for the future We're gonna try to get to, you know, it'd really be 2028 before we start to see that work. Again, I think getting the brand study, and I mentioned the discipline and the script, right? Having the discipline just to wait, for the insights and the research to help guide us, not be necessary just to guide, is gonna be really important to our future growth. We're gonna try to get to, you know, it'd really be 2028 before we start to see that work. we're gonna try to get to you know it'd really be 2028 before we start to see that work Again, I think getting the brand study, and I mentioned the discipline and the script, right? again i think getting the brand study and i mentioned the discipline and the script right Having the discipline just to wait, for the insights and the research to help guide us, not be necessary just to guide, is gonna be really important to our future growth. having the discipline just to wait for the insights and the research to help guide us not be necessary just to guide is gonna be really important to our future growth
Speaker 5: If I'm still on, maybe a follow-up. If I'm still on, maybe a follow-up. if i'm still on maybe a follow-up
Speaker 1: Sure. Sure. sure
Speaker 5: I think at one point, you know, I guess, you know, in the recent past, you know, Portillo's was targeting double-digit unit growth. I mean, I guess my question is whether you think that's an appropriate growth rate for the comp longer term, you know, presuming you get all the foundational elements right. I mean, should we be expecting, you know, a path back to that level? Do you think that maybe a slower growth rate is more appropriate? I guess, what are your initial thoughts as you think about that outlook? I think at one point, you know, I guess, you know, in the recent past, you know, Portillo's was targeting double-digit unit growth. i think at one point you know i guess you know in the recent past you know portillo's was targeting double-digit unit growth I mean, I guess my question is whether you think that's an appropriate growth rate for the comp longer term, you know, presuming you get all the foundational elements right. i mean i guess my question is whether you think that's an appropriate growth rate for the comp longer term you know presuming you get all the foundational elements right I mean, should we be expecting, you know, a path back to that level? i mean should we be expecting you know a path back to that level Do you think that maybe a slower growth rate is more appropriate? do you think that maybe a slower growth rate is more appropriate I guess, what are your initial thoughts as you think about that outlook? i guess what are your initial thoughts as you think about that outlook
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, I'm anxious to answer that question myself, and I think we've gotta right now, we've gotta do the work, right? To build. What I would tell you is what we've done in the past, I wouldn't say is a sustainable double-digit growth model. Developing something for the future that we feel really confident about, the level of capital we're spending, the returns we're getting, will be the key driver for that. Yeah, again, I'm anxious to answer that question myself, and I think we've gotta right now, we've gotta do the work, right? yeah again i'm anxious to answer that question myself and i think we've gotta right now we've gotta do the work right To build. to build What I would tell you is what we've done in the past, I wouldn't say is a sustainable double-digit growth model. what i would tell you is what we've done in the past i wouldn't say is a sustainable double-digit growth model Developing something for the future that we feel really confident about, the level of capital we're spending, the returns we're getting, will be the key driver for that. developing something for the future that we feel really confident about the level of capital we're spending the returns we're getting will be the key driver for that
Speaker 13: Moving next to Jim Salera with Stephens. Moving next to Jim Salera with Stephens. moving next to jim salera with stephens
Speaker 9: Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking our question. To switch gears and talk a little bit on the margin front, I know beef prices have continued to grind higher as the years progressed, and you guys flagged some promotional offering you did that obviously had beef-centric items. Can you just walk us through, A, you know, kind of how you're hedged on beef, but then also, B, how you're thinking about maybe some of those promotional mix given that you have, you know, beef exposure and where that's at, you know, on input costs? Yes, good morning. yes good morning Thanks for taking our question. thanks for taking our question To switch gears and talk a little bit on the margin front, I know beef prices have continued to grind higher as the years progressed, and you guys flagged some promotional offering you did that obviously had beef-centric items. to switch gears and talk a little bit on the margin front i know beef prices have continued to grind higher as the years progressed and you guys flagged some promotional offering you did that obviously had beef-centric items Can you just walk us through, A, you know, kind of how you're hedged on beef, but then also, B, how you're thinking about maybe some of those promotional mix given that you have, you know, beef exposure and where that's at, you know, on input costs? can you just walk us through a you know kind of how you're hedged on beef but then also b how you're thinking about maybe some of those promotional mix given that you have you know beef exposure and where that's at you know on input costs
Speaker 12: Yeah, Jim, I can take that. Thanks for the question. We're still projecting mid-single-digit commodity inflation for the year, and we did have what I'd describe as a lower inflationary number in Q1. I think that, you know, speaks to the things that we put in place to try and manage that exposure. As we sit here today, we're hedged on our flats or we forward bought on those. There's about 65% of that specific commodity that we're locked in on for the year. We have about 30%-ish or so of our total basket that we're locked in on for Q2 through Q4. We've put some things in place to de-risk that. Yeah, Jim, I can take that. yeah jim i can take that Thanks for the question. thanks for the question We're still projecting mid-single-digit commodity inflation for the year, and we did have what I'd describe as a lower inflationary number in Q1. we're still projecting mid-single-digit commodity inflation for the year and we did have what i'd describe as a lower inflationary number in q1 I think that, you know, speaks to the things that we put in place to try and manage that exposure. i think that you know speaks to the things that we put in place to try and manage that exposure As we sit here today, we're hedged on our flats or we forward bought on those. as we sit here today we're hedged on our flats or we forward bought on those There's about 65% of that specific commodity that we're locked in on for the year. there's about 65% of that specific commodity that we're locked in on for the year We have about 30%-ish or so of our total basket that we're locked in on for Q2 through Q4. we have about 30%-ish or so of our total basket that we're locked in on for q2 through q4 We've put some things in place to de-risk that. we've put some things in place to de-risk that As we look at, you know, what is the future of commodities, yes, we still expect beef to be a pressure point for the remainder of this year. We do expect our inflation to be higher than what you saw in Q1, in Q2 through four. I'd say probably Q4, we're just, as we sit here today, expect that to be the most pressured quarter of the future quarters. We still feel good about, again, that mid-single digit inflationary number that we put out there. To your point on marketing, you know, certain items that relate to beef, I think to Brett's point, as he continues to refine the strategy and we look at what's best for the brand, I think, you know, everything's on the table as we move forward. As we look at, you know, what is the future of commodities, yes, we still expect beef to be a pressure point for the remainder of this year. as we look at you know what is the future of commodities yes we still expect beef to be a pressure point for the remainder of this year We do expect our inflation to be higher than what you saw in Q1, in Q2 through four . we do expect our inflation to be higher than what you saw in q1 in q2 through four I'd say probably Q4, we're just, as we sit here today, expect that to be the most pressured quarter of the future quarters. i'd say probably q4 we're just as we sit here today expect that to be the most pressured quarter of the future quarters We still feel good about, again, that mid-single digit inflationary number that we put out there. we still feel good about again that mid-single digit inflationary number that we put out there To your point on marketing, you know, certain items that relate to beef, I think to Brett's point, as he continues to refine the strategy and we look at what's best for the brand, I think, you know, everything's on the table as we move forward. to your point on marketing you know certain items that relate to beef i think to brett's point as he continues to refine the strategy and we look at what's best for the brand i think you know everything's on the table as we move forward Portillo's is built on, you know, beef items, whether it's our beef sandwich, our hot dogs are all beef, our hamburgers, which we ran that promotion in Q1. you know, we're not going to lean away from that, I would say, as we move forward in the future. I think there's opportunities to lean into other categories as well moving forward. Portillo's is built on, you know, beef items, whether it's our beef sandwich, our hot dogs are all beef, our hamburgers, which we ran that promotion in Q1. you know, we're not going to lean away from that, I would say, as we move forward in the future. portillo's is built on you know beef items whether it's our beef sandwich our hot dogs are all beef our hamburgers which we ran that promotion in q1 you know we're not going to lean away from that i would say as we move forward in the future I think there's opportunities to lean into other categories as well moving forward. i think there's opportunities to lean into other categories as well moving forward
Speaker 13: Moving on to Dennis Geiger with UBS. Moving on to Dennis Geiger with UBS. moving on to dennis geiger with ubs
Speaker 6: Great. Thanks, guys. Michelle, thanks for all your help and best of luck to you, of course. Quick housekeeping item and then a question from me. On the housekeeping, just curious if anything to share on performance across geographies. I'm thinking about Chicagoland versus outside, et cetera, or performance by channel in the quarter. Then the question really is a bit more on the marketing strategy side of things and just where things stand there, if it's too early to share about anything on sort of notable shifts in marketing strategy or marketing spend levels. Is it still early until some of those survey insights come back? Thank you. Great. great Thanks, guys. thanks guys Michelle, thanks for all your help and best of luck to you, of course. michelle thanks for all your help and best of luck to you of course Quick housekeeping item and then a question from me. quick housekeeping item and then a question from me On the housekeeping, just curious if anything to share on performance across geographies. on the housekeeping just curious if anything to share on performance across geographies I'm thinking about Chicagoland versus outside, et cetera, or performance by channel in the quarter. i'm thinking about chicagoland versus outside et cetera or performance by channel in the quarter Then the question really is a bit more on the marketing strategy side of things and just where things stand there, if it's too early to share about anything on sort of notable shifts in marketing strategy or marketing spend levels. then the question really is a bit more on the marketing strategy side of things and just where things stand there if it's too early to share about anything on sort of notable shifts in marketing strategy or marketing spend levels Is it still early until some of those survey insights come back? is it still early until some of those survey insights come back Thank you. thank you
Speaker 1: Hey, Dennis. This is Brett. Thanks for the question. First, what we saw in quarter one, which was really good news, we saw Chicagoland perform really well. They had outsized transaction growth compared to the rest of the fleet. The rest of the concept did well, but it was great to see Chicago pop in the first quarter, which I think speaks to, you know, this environment being, and the way that Chicago uses the brand, where you had that value offer with Big Burger Bundle really resonated. There's learnings for that of how we think about it going forward. It was nice to see that for Chicago. You know, your second question regarding marketing, I think the brand work is gonna be critical for that. Hey, Dennis. hey dennis This is Brett. this is brett Thanks for the question. thanks for the question First, what we saw in quarter one, which was really good news, we saw Chicagoland perform really well. first what we saw in quarter one which was really good news we saw chicagoland perform really well They had outsized transaction growth compared to the rest of the fleet. they had outsized transaction growth compared to the rest of the fleet The rest of the concept did well, but it was great to see Chicago pop in the first quarter, which I think speaks to, you know, this environment being, and the way that Chicago uses the brand, where you had that value offer with Big Burger Bundle really resonated. the rest of the concept did well but it was great to see chicago pop in the first quarter which i think speaks to you know this environment being and the way that chicago uses the brand where you had that value offer with big burger bundle really resonated There's learnings for that of how we think about it going forward. there's learnings for that of how we think about it going forward It was nice to see that for Chicago. it was nice to see that for chicago You know, your second question regarding marketing, I think the brand work is gonna be critical for that. you know your second question regarding marketing i think the brand work is gonna be critical for that you know, I know Denise is, you know, we're working on the MarTech stack. We're looking at, you know, channel usage, media mix usage, you know, offers by customer segmentation. That work is all in progress. The brand work's really gonna help us inform, you know, how and who we target, once we get that information back. We did plus up some media around the Big Burger Bundle, and we saw, you know, we saw that really support the message. We know it works when we have the right offer and the right message. Getting, you know, getting the channels and the mix right is gonna be really important as we go forward to maximize our marketing spend. you know, I know Denise is, you know, we're working on the MarTech stack. you know i know denise is you know we're working on the martech stack We're looking at, you know, channel usage, media mix usage, you know, offers by customer segmentation. we're looking at you know channel usage media mix usage you know offers by customer segmentation That work is all in progress. that work is all in progress The brand work's really gonna help us inform, you know, how and who we target, once we get that information back. the brand work's really gonna help us inform you know how and who we target once we get that information back We did plus up some media around the Big Burger Bundle, and we saw, you know, we saw that really support the message. we did plus up some media around the big burger bundle and we saw you know we saw that really support the message We know it works when we have the right offer and the right message. we know it works when we have the right offer and the right message Getting, you know, getting the channels and the mix right is gonna be really important as we go forward to maximize our marketing spend. getting you know getting the channels and the mix right is gonna be really important as we go forward to maximize our marketing spend
Speaker 6: Great. Thanks, Brett. Great. great Thanks, Brett. thanks brett
Speaker 13: We'll go next to Matt Curtis with D.A. Davidson. We'll go next to Matt Curtis with D.A. we'll go next to matt curtis with d.a Davidson. davidson
Speaker 11: Hi, good morning. You know, Brett, given your casual dining background, I was just wondering if you could share your thoughts on elevating the customer experience, both in store and at the drive-thru, and if perhaps adding labor might be part of that. Hi, good morning. hi good morning You know, Brett, given your casual dining background, I was just wondering if you could share your thoughts on elevating the customer experience, both in store and at the drive-thru, and if perhaps adding labor might be part of that. you know brett given your casual dining background i was just wondering if you could share your thoughts on elevating the customer experience both in store and at the drive-thru and if perhaps adding labor might be part of that
Speaker 1: Matt, thank you. You know, I've gotten the question a lot about, you know, coming in from full service to fast casual. You know, what I would tell you is I think there's so many similarities. One was when you just step back and think about what a customer wants, it doesn't really differ between the two channels. You know, they want great value created by food service atmosphere, you know, divided by price, and that's what we have to deliver. As I think about our brand, how do we make sure our food is compelling? It remains high quality. It's something the brand's been built on. Matt, thank you. matt thank you You know, I've gotten the question a lot about, you know, coming in from full service to fast casual. you know i've gotten the question a lot about you know coming in from full service to fast casual You know, what I would tell you is I think there's so many similarities. you know what i would tell you is i think there's so many similarities One was when you just step back and think about what a customer wants, it doesn't really differ between the two channels. one was when you just step back and think about what a customer wants it doesn't really differ between the two channels You know, they want great value created by food service atmosphere, you know, divided by price, and that's what we have to deliver. you know they want great value created by food service atmosphere you know divided by price and that's what we have to deliver As I think about our brand, how do we make sure our food is compelling? as i think about our brand how do we make sure our food is compelling It remains high quality. it remains high quality It's something the brand's been built on. it's something the brand's been built on The service aspect, we're different than a lot of other fast casual concepts with our drive-through, where we have people in the drive-through, you know, taking orders and have that face-to-face interaction. I think those things have been key to Portillo's and will remain key. I think your point on how do we enhance that to make sure that we put the guest at the center of everything we do, is a culture we're going to continue to focus on in this company. I don't see, you know, a difference of being full service or quick service as it relates to how we think about the customer. The service aspect, we're different than a lot of other fast casual concepts with our drive-through, where we have people in the drive-through, you know, taking orders and have that face-to-face interaction. the service aspect we're different than a lot of other fast casual concepts with our drive-through where we have people in the drive-through you know taking orders and have that face-to-face interaction I think those things have been key to Portillo's and will remain key. i think those things have been key to portillo's and will remain key I think your point on how do we enhance that to make sure that we put the guest at the center of everything we do, is a culture we're going to continue to focus on in this company. i think your point on how do we enhance that to make sure that we put the guest at the center of everything we do is a culture we're going to continue to focus on in this company I don't see, you know, a difference of being full service or quick service as it relates to how we think about the customer. i don't see you know a difference of being full service or quick service as it relates to how we think about the customer
Speaker 11: Okay. Understood. Thank you. Okay. okay Understood. understood Thank you. thank you
Speaker 13: Our final question will come from Brian Harbour with Morgan Stanley. Our final question will come from Brian Harbour with Morgan Stanley. our final question will come from brian harbour with morgan stanley
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Michelle, best of luck, certainly. The conversation about, you know, kind of value perception lagging, I guess, you know, Is what you're saying that, look, you know, some of these promotional offers have certainly worked, but they're fairly short-lived? I mean, how do you think those kind of play a role in the future, or is this kind of like a conversation about maybe some everyday value thing is needed? How should we think about that? Yeah, thanks. yeah thanks Good morning. good morning Michelle, best of luck, certainly. michelle best of luck certainly The conversation about, you know, kind of value perception lagging, I guess, you know, Is what you're saying that, look, you know, some of these promotional offers have certainly worked, but they're fairly short-lived? the conversation about you know kind of value perception lagging i guess you know is what you're saying that look you know some of these promotional offers have certainly worked but they're fairly short-lived I mean, how do you think those kind of play a role in the future, or is this kind of like a conversation about maybe some everyday value thing is needed? i mean how do you think those kind of play a role in the future or is this kind of like a conversation about maybe some everyday value thing is needed How should we think about that? how should we think about that
Speaker 12: Yeah. You know, Brian, I think that at the end of the day, we're not looking, and Brett and the team are not looking for quick like hitters or fixes for this brand. I think doing the work around the brand, that Denise is doing on the perception study and, what do we wanna be over the long term, it comes back to that value equation, that Brett just talked about, which is, you know, something over price, whether that's your experience, the quality of the food, the accuracy, the speed, all of that, you know, over the price that you're paying for that. Yeah. yeah You know, Brian, I think that at the end of the day, we're not looking, and Brett and the team are not looking for quick like hitters or fixes for this brand. you know brian i think that at the end of the day we're not looking and brett and the team are not looking for quick like hitters or fixes for this brand I think doing the work around the brand, that Denise is doing on the perception study and, what do we wanna be over the long term, it comes back to that value equation, that Brett just talked about, which is, you know, something over price, whether that's your experience, the quality of the food, the accuracy, the speed, all of that, you know, over the price that you're paying for that. i think doing the work around the brand that denise is doing on the perception study and what do we wanna be over the long term it comes back to that value equation that brett just talked about which is you know something over price whether that's your experience the quality of the food the accuracy the speed all of that you know over the price that you're paying for that You know, I think as this brand moves forward, that's the way that the team is thinking about it, is what's the best over the long term for the brand to continue to provide that quote-unquote value to the guest. Those things can come in many forms, whether it's through menu innovation, right? Menu innovation can be permanent menu items, it can be limited time offers, right? Those things you don't necessarily have to, you know, put the brand on sale or do things like that and discount to have that value perception. Brett talked about operational excellence, like getting better operationally. Focusing in on those metrics that matter, whether it's accuracy or speed of service or hospitality, right? Those are things that over the long term carry brands forward versus how can I get these quick wins in the short term. You know, I think as this brand moves forward, that's the way that the team is thinking about it, is what's the best over the long term for the brand to continue to provide that quote-unquote value to the guest. you know i think as this brand moves forward that's the way that the team is thinking about it is what's the best over the long term for the brand to continue to provide that quote-unquote value to the guest Those things can come in many forms, whether it's through menu innovation, right? those things can come in many forms whether it's through menu innovation right Menu innovation can be permanent menu items, it can be limited time offers, right? menu innovation can be permanent menu items it can be limited time offers right Those things you don't necessarily have to, you know, put the brand on sale or do things like that and discount to have that value perception. those things you don't necessarily have to you know put the brand on sale or do things like that and discount to have that value perception Brett talked about operational excellence, like getting better operationally. brett talked about operational excellence like getting better operationally Focusing in on those metrics that matter, whether it's accuracy or speed of service or hospitality, right? focusing in on those metrics that matter whether it's accuracy or speed of service or hospitality right Those are things that over the long term carry brands forward versus how can I get these quick wins in the short term. those are things that over the long term carry brands forward versus how can i get these quick wins in the short term That I know is the mindset moving forward for Brett and the team, versus, you know, what can we do for this quarter. That I know is the mindset moving forward for Brett and the team, versus, you know, what can we do for this quarter. that i know is the mindset moving forward for brett and the team versus you know what can we do for this quarter
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I could just add, Brian, one thing is I think the way I would frame it is, you know, we have to organizationally make sure we build a much stronger foundation of value, then I think as you pulse in opportunities, there should be a bump in value. Those to me are very short term transactional. If you do a heavy discount over a period of time, or an offer, you're certainly gonna see your value scores elevate during that time. Generally, what happens as soon as you come off that, your value scores revert back to a base. Our job and our focus is gonna be how do we strengthen the base value? When we do those offers, it's just incremental, right, to the consumer. Yeah, if I could just add, Brian, one thing is I think the way I would frame it is, you know, we have to organizationally make sure we build a much stronger foundation of value, then I think as you pulse in opportunities, there should be a bump in value. yeah if i could just add brian one thing is i think the way i would frame it is you know we have to organizationally make sure we build a much stronger foundation of value then i think as you pulse in opportunities there should be a bump in value Those to me are very short term transactional. those to me are very short term transactional If you do a heavy discount over a period of time, or an offer, you're certainly gonna see your value scores elevate during that time. if you do a heavy discount over a period of time or an offer you're certainly gonna see your value scores elevate during that time Generally, what happens as soon as you come off that, your value scores revert back to a base. generally what happens as soon as you come off that your value scores revert back to a base Our job and our focus is gonna be how do we strengthen the base value? our job and our focus is gonna be how do we strengthen the base value When we do those offers, it's just incremental, right, to the consumer. when we do those offers it's just incremental right to the consumer Again, and right now, until we really understand that, we keep coming back to the brand work and research, we're not gonna spend a lot of time on figuring out what are those short-term levers, until we really understand who our customer is and how do we go to market, and that'll shape our marketing and go to, you know, our strategy. Again, and right now, until we really understand that, we keep coming back to the brand work and research, we're not gonna spend a lot of time on figuring out what are those short-term levers, until we really understand who our customer is and how do we go to market, and that'll shape our marketing and go to, you know, our strategy. again and right now until we really understand that we keep coming back to the brand work and research we're not gonna spend a lot of time on figuring out what are those short-term levers until we really understand who our customer is and how do we go to market and that'll shape our marketing and go to you know our strategy
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