NN Group N.V. — Call Transcript 2025

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Krista, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the NextNav Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nevin Reilly, Investor Relations at Sloane. Please begin. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to NextNav's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Participating on today's call are Mariam Sorond, NextNav's Chief Executive Officer, and Chris Gates, NextNav's Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that this call will include certain statements that constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements may be identified by use of the words may, anticipate, believe, expect, intend, should, could, and similar expressions. Such forward-looking statements, which may relate to NextNav's forecast of future results, future prospects, developments, and business strategies, are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, many of which are outside NextNav's control and could cause actual results to differ. In particular, such forward-looking statements include the achievement of certain SEC-related milestones and SEC approvals, NextNav's projections, plans, objectives, and expectations, and NextNav's future business strategies and competitive position. These statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, as well as a number of assumptions concerning future events. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon the forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date made, and NextNav undertakes no commitment to update or revise the forward-looking statements except as required by law. For additional information regarding risks and uncertainties, please refer to the risk factors and other disclosures contained in the company filings with the SEC. Following prepared remarks, the company will host an operator-led question and answer session. In addition, a replay of our discussion will be posted to the company's Investor Relations website. I'd now like to turn the call over to Ms. Sorond. Please go ahead, Mariam. Thank you, Nevin. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us today. We led an eventful and impactful second quarter, marked by the May 13th conclusion of the comment period in response to the FCC's Notice of Inquiry, or NOI, titled "Promoting the Development of Positioning, Navigation, and Timing Technologies and Solutions." NextNav continues to advance our FCC advocacy with a sense of urgency. Since we filed our NOI comments and reply comments, we have filed additional technical, economic, and operational data and analysis, laying a strong foundation for the FCC to act on our proposal. We are encouraged by the FCC's actions to date and believe that this effort is a sustained priority for the FCC Chairman, as suggested by the issuance of the NOI. A terrestrial complement and backup to GPS is an urgent national security priority, and we will continue to advocate for the FCC to promptly issue a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, or NPRM, that would enable a terrestrial complement and backup to GPS without the need for multi-billion dollar taxpayer expenditures. We were also excited to see that the FCC granted its consent for licenses to be assigned to NextNav. As we announced in March 2024, NextNav entered into an asset purchase agreement to acquire the remaining 128 active M-LMS licenses in the lower 900 MHz A block. We filed an assignment application with the FCC in April 2024, concurrent with our petition for rulemaking. On June 20th, 2025, the FCC issued an order granting its consent to the assignment of these licenses to NextNav. The licenses already held by NextNav in the lower 900 MHz band are in the B and C blocks. Significantly, in addition to a grant, the order included a waiver of an FCC rule that forbids one licensee from holding both an A block license and a B or C block license in the same license area. The order also noted that the grant was likely to result in certain public interest benefits, including the potential for further development of the M-LMS band. The order permits us to complete the license assignment, and we are working towards that goal. We thank FCC Chairman Brendan Carr and the FCC staff for the meaningful effort and time they are devoting to these issues, given the numerous demands on the FCC's resources. GPS remains a vulnerable single point of failure for the U.S. economy and national security. The FCC is uniquely positioned to swiftly enable a 5G-based solution like NextNav that seamlessly enables a complement and backup to GPS, in addition to making available new broadband capacity. NextNav's petition to the FCC seeks to modernize rules and optimize the lower 900 MHz band to enable terrestrial PNT and 5G broadband, a market-based approach to address an urgent national security priority. This is critical infrastructure for the future, delivered in a way that is consistent with FCC Chairman Carr's Build America Agenda. Our proposal advances America's leadership in wireless by making additional spectrum available for broadband, modernizing outdated regulations, and advancing U.S. national security and resilience by enabling a wide-scale terrestrial PNT solution, all without any taxpayer funding. While critics have made unfounded claims about our proposal, they have not filed any valid technical analysis with the FCC. In contrast, NextNav has invested time and resources in technical and economic studies that demonstrate the feasibility and public interest benefits of our proposal. Through these filings, we have been disproving other parties' objections in the record with robust analysis. We believe the technical record provides a strong basis for the FCC to issue an NPRM, bolstered by continued support from public safety. We were also pleased to see commenters note that a market-based approach can best deliver future-proof solutions. In June, we presented implementation and deployment details of our 5G-based PNT solution to both the FCC's Wireless Telecommunications Bureau and its Office of Engineering and Technology. Importantly, we presented a path by which, with swift FCC action, our solution could be available during this administration. Due to the use of standards-based 5G technology, we believe multiple network partnership options are possible. In July, we filed a supplemental technical study, further validating the assumptions and conclusions in our February technical study, demonstrating that introducing 5G operations will not cause unacceptable interference to unlicensed Part 15 devices in the lower 900 MHz band. We also filed in July a second supplemental economic report prepared by The Brattle Group, establishing that NextNav's proposed optimization of the lower 900 MHz band would impose minimal costs while generating substantial national benefits, potentially amounting to tens of billions of dollars. Finally, on August 1st, we filed a technical study demonstrating that licensed tolling operations can coexist with 5G operations in the lower 900 MHz band. In addition to our progress with the FCC, I participated in a June 24th event at the U.S. Capitol focused on the urgent need for GPS resiliency. The event featured a conversation between Chairman Richard Hudson, Chair of the Communications and Technology Subcommittee of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and the Honorable Greg Walden, former Chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. The event also featured Arpan Sura, Senior Counsel and Chief AI Officer to Chairman Carr, Dr. Thomas Rondeau, Principal Director for FutureG at the Department of Defense, and Adam Eldert, Director of Public Safety for Fairfax County, Virginia. The participants reinforced a critical message: GPS vulnerabilities are not hypothetical. They are real. They present threats to national security, public safety, and the economy. America must address this issue now. I'm confident that our solution will play a key role in the system of systems necessary for PNT resiliency. It is future-proof and can scale rapidly, leveraging existing network infrastructure and the vibrant global 5G ecosystem without requiring taxpayer funding. Looking ahead, NextNav is committed to strengthening PNT resiliency in support of national security, public safety, and the economy. With the increasing recognition of the need for a terrestrial complement and backup to GPS, we are well-positioned for continued momentum. We remain focused on executing our strategic roadmap and driving innovation in geolocation technology. With that, let me turn things over to Chris for a review of our financials. Chris? Thanks, Mariam, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll address our financial performance for the second quarter of 2025 in addition to our balance sheet and liquidity. Beginning with the top line, NextNav's revenue for the second quarter was $1.2 million compared to $1.1 million in the prior year period. For the six months ended June 30, 2025, revenue was $2.7 million as compared to $2.2 million for the prior year period. The increase in both three and six months ended June 30, 2025, was primarily driven by an increase in service revenues from technology and services contracts with government and commercial customers. Operating expenses for the second quarter were $18.4 million, up approximately $2 million versus the same period last year. Operating expenses included $1.4 million in depreciation and amortization and $3.7 million in equity compensation, compared to $1.3 million in depreciation and amortization and $3.7 million in equity compensation in the prior year period. For the first half of 2025, operating expenses were $37 million as compared to $33.6 million in 2024. Operating expenses included $2.8 million in depreciation and amortization and $8 million in equity compensation, compared to $2.6 million in depreciation and amortization and $7.9 million in equity compensation in the prior year period. Net loss for the second quarter was $63.2 million, which included a $39.5 million loss associated with a change in the fair value of derivative liability and warrants. This is compared to a net loss of $24.4 million in the prior year period, which included a loss in the change of the fair value of warrant liability of $8.5 million. For the six-month period, net loss was $121.8 million, which included a $58 million loss associated with the change in the fair value of derivative and warrant liability and $14.4 million loss associated with debt extinguishment. This is compared to a net loss of $56 million in the prior year period, which included a loss in the change of the fair value of our warrant liability of $21.7 million. Turning now to our balance sheet and liquidity, we finished the second quarter with $176.1 million in cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments. As we have mentioned in the past, we take a prudent, long-term approach to liquidity and continue to carefully manage our use of capital as we work to advance our business. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for questions. Operator? Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up question. For any additional questions, please re-queue. Your first question comes from Mike Crawford with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Thank you. What are your next steps in the FCC process on the progression towards a hope for NPRM? Is it more technical studies that you might introduce to the record to help achieve more consensus building, or is it just a wait and see at this point? Hi, Mike, and thanks for the question. We have completed a rigorous and robust analysis, right? We did the August 1 filing that addressed the tolls and coexistence with the tolls, and in July and prior months, in February, we filed two unlicensed studies that basically showed that we can coexist with unlicensed. At this point, we have submitted a complete, rigorous, and complete analysis to the FCC for them to move forward with the NPRM from our perspective. We continue to advocate for our position. We continue to bring a sense of urgency, but we believe that we have completed the record sufficiently enough for the FCC to move to NPRM. Okay, great. Thank you. My one follow-up question relates to any progress or other developments in conjunction with you cooperating or offering some kind of complementary service with other space-based alternatives, such as Xona Space Systems, which is trying to build a 258 PNT constellation in LEO. Any updates on any of that front? We continue to believe in the system of systems. We just recently announced some partnerships, right, on the system of systems. We continue to talk to the industry beyond just terrestrial and to the satellite players to actually bring together and make this system a system of reality. At this point, we don't have any updates on any satellite-related discussions to share with you, but if when those are available, we will share. All right. Thank you very much. Your next question comes from Dan McDermott with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Hi, guys. Dan on for Tim Horan. Thanks for taking our question. Just the one, you mentioned in your prepared remarks you have multiple partnership opportunities, and we saw the Adtran and Oscilloquartz announcement from last week. Can you maybe just discuss how that fits into your plans in a little more detail? Thanks. Yeah, thank you for the question. Actually, we're super excited about the Adtran and Oscilloquartz announcement. I mean, you've heard me talk about system of systems many times and how this would enable a very cohesive PNT complement and backup solution that ensures a few things: service continuity, accuracy, and coverage, right? I mean, we all need to come together to be able to do this, these goals. Now, this is an initial embodiment of that that you're seeing right now. We're going to use our technology, our next-gen technology, to integrate it into this multi-source timing receiver with them, and we're going to demonstrate improved resiliency through 5G-based timing. These partnerships are going to provide us with a great and a valuable opportunity to bring together multiple non-GPS sources to enable resilient PNT solutions. Great. Thank you. Sure. Your next question comes from the line of Peter Supino with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Hi, this is Ron on for Peter. First, following the technical filings that you recently made, do you anticipate participating in field testing for either unlicensed operations or the tolls? At this time, we don't believe that any additional testing, including field testing or joint testing, is required for the FCC to move forward with an NPRM. Got it. As a follow-up, just considering retuning, do you anticipate there's any significant costs associated with retuning tools? If you saw our August 1st study and also The Brattle Group report, in the August 1st study, we showed that 5G can coexist, that it would, yeah, that some subset might require retuning. There is no replacement of toll transponders or any of these things that are needed, and these subsets of retunings are a minimal cost, as it's highlighted in The Brattle report. We've continuously said we're committed to reasonable accommodations, including financial, that are reasonable, that have been brought in good faith to ensure that there's a smooth transition to a very optimized lower 900 MHz band that enables us to solve this national security problem. It enables the tolls to continue their operations. Minimal cost, minimal retuning. Thank you. Thank you for the question. Your next question comes from the line of Brendan Lynch with Barclays. Please go ahead. Great. Thanks for taking my questions. As part of the One Big Beautiful Bill, auction authority was returned to the FCC. How do you think that will impact your process with the government going forward? Yeah, thank you for the question. I don't see a significant impact to what we're trying to achieve, and there's a few reasons for that. First of all, the most important one is, obviously, not all spectrum is the same. Our spectrum in the low band that has incredible coverage characteristics, that is solving the PNT problem and making broadband available, is below 1 GHz. The one big beautiful bill is really looking at higher frequencies. It's above 1.3 GHz all the way to 10.5 GHz. That's the range that they're looking at. We fall in the lower range, and we obviously are having a PNT element to solve a national security problem. There's also a second reason. There's a timing perspective. The FCC does have general auction authority, but one key directive in the bill is that the NTIA needs to identify the spectrum first from existing federal users. This is going to take some time. Of course, there's a process after the identification of it. Our spectrum is currently licensed and available, and we're proposing to optimize it through minimal retuning. Okay. Thank you. That's helpful. You touched on this a little bit already, but can you summarize some of the differences in the economic analysis findings of The Brattle Group versus the report filed by E-ZPass and its partners? Sure. In general, we identified all the flaws with the report that was done. There was no value given at all to what we bring, which is potentially billions of dollars of GPS resiliency. There's zero value given to it. There was an outrageous value given to the retuning and the swap of toll readers of transponders, which our report just demonstrated is not necessary. It's minimal retuning and minimal cost. It also assumed outrageous numbers with respect to unlicensed. We're not asking the unlicensed operations to swap out of the band. They continue to enjoy the benefits that they have under their unlicensed regime to continue operating in this band. We're not asking them to vacate. There's no reason to associate a cost for vacating any of them. As our technical report that we filed, two of them show that we're not putting out any more emissions than the current licenses that we hold. There should be no change to the environment that they're operating in, and there is no reason for them to retune. There's no reason for them. They're not losing spectrum. There's not a percentage decrease on their spectrum. We've made all of these valid technical assumptions in the reports and analysis that we have provided to the FCC, and we don't believe that the economic report took into consideration any of these fact-based data and analysis and made incorrect assumptions. Okay. Very good. Thank you for the color. Your next question comes from the line of Mike Latimore with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Yeah, hi. This is Vijay Devar for Mike Latimore. One quick question, please. Can you address how resilient PNT fits into AI? Yes, of course. Thank you for the question. I think you need to think of resilient PNT as a backbone to AI. One of the things that a lot of the AI use cases, and I'll talk about some of them, rely on is actually accurate real-time data. For example, autonomous vehicle, critical infrastructure. If you don't have accurate PNT data, a lot of these applications fail. Basically, for example, if you need real-world precise location and timing to make some of these decisions that AI needs to make, and the PNT data is wrong, the outcomes will be extremely misguided, very dangerous, and mission-failing. It is really important to have PNT as this backbone and partner with AI. The critical infrastructure relies a lot on timing synchronizations. If you get faulty AI predictions, if you get uncoordinated sort of systems and security vulnerabilities, you're talking about a failure of power grids and financial systems. AI really needs real-time, accurate data. There's a whole sort of defense and security application that we're talking about when you're talking about drone swarms, when you're talking about targeting systems, guided munitions. All of them rely on positioning data. If that positioning data is not accurate, then what's the use of an AI-driven drone, right, or any of that? It's an extremely important element. We've been looking into it. We've been looking at how we can create partnerships around this, and we will have more as they become available. Thank you for the question. That concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the conference back over to Mariam Sorond, CEO, for closing comments. Thank you. As I mentioned in the beginning of our call, we're pleased with the progress we made in the second quarter. We are confident in our approach. Though we can't speculate about when the FCC will issue an NPRM, we will continue to drive the urgency with our proposal and look forward to continuing to support the FCC's work as we seek to enable a wide-scale, future-proof complement and backup to GPS as quickly as possible. Thank you, everyone. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.

Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Krista, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the NextNav Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nevin Reilly, Investor Relations at Sloane. Please begin. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. ladies and gentlemen thank you for standing by My name is Krista, and I will be your conference operator today. my name is krista and i will be your conference operator today At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the NextNav Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. at this time i would like to welcome everyone to the nextnav second quarter 2025 earnings conference call All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. after the speaker's remarks there will be a question and answer session If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. if you would like to ask a question during this time simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. if you would like to withdraw your question again press star one I would now like to turn the conference over to Nevin Reilly, Investor Relations at Sloane . i would now like to turn the conference over to nevin reilly investor relations at sloane Please begin. please begin

Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to NextNav's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Participating on today's call are Mariam Sorond, NextNav's Chief Executive Officer, and Chris Gates, NextNav's Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that this call will include certain statements that constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements may be identified by use of the words may, anticipate, believe, expect, intend, should, could, and similar expressions. Such forward-looking statements, which may relate to NextNav's forecast of future results, future prospects, developments, and business strategies, are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, many of which are outside NextNav's control and could cause actual results to differ. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to NextNav's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. good afternoon everyone and welcome to nextnav's second quarter 2025 earnings conference call Participating on today's call are Mariam Sorond, NextNav's Chief Executive Officer, and Chris Gates, NextNav's Chief Financial Officer. participating on today's call are mariam sorond nextnav's chief executive officer and chris gates nextnav's chief financial officer Before we begin, let me remind everyone that this call will include certain statements that constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. before we begin let me remind everyone that this call will include certain statements that constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the private securities litigation reform act of 1995 Forward-looking statements may be identified by use of the words may, anticipate, believe, expect, intend, should, could, and similar expressions. forward-looking statements may be identified by use of the words may anticipate believe expect intend should could and similar expressions Such forward-looking statements, which may relate to NextNav's forecast of future results, future prospects, developments, and business strategies, are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, many of which are outside NextNav's control and could cause actual results to differ. such forward-looking statements which may relate to nextnav's forecast of future results future prospects developments and business strategies are subject to known and unknown risks uncertainties and assumptions many of which are outside nextnav's control and could cause actual results to differ In particular, such forward-looking statements include the achievement of certain SEC-related milestones and SEC approvals, NextNav's projections, plans, objectives, and expectations, and NextNav's future business strategies and competitive position. These statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, as well as a number of assumptions concerning future events. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon the forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date made, and NextNav undertakes no commitment to update or revise the forward-looking statements except as required by law. For additional information regarding risks and uncertainties, please refer to the risk factors and other disclosures contained in the company filings with the SEC. Following prepared remarks, the company will host an operator-led question and answer session. In addition, a replay of our discussion will be posted to the company's Investor Relations website. I'd now like to turn the call over to Ms. Sorond. In particular, such forward-looking statements include the achievement of certain SEC-related milestones and SEC approvals, NextNav's projections, plans, objectives, and expectations, and NextNav's future business strategies and competitive position. in particular such forward-looking statements include the achievement of certain sec-related milestones and sec approvals nextnav's projections plans objectives and expectations and nextnav's future business strategies and competitive position These statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, as well as a number of assumptions concerning future events. these statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs as well as a number of assumptions concerning future events You are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon the forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date made, and NextNav undertakes no commitment to update or revise the forward-looking statements except as required by law. you are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon the forward-looking statements which speak only as of the date made and nextnav undertakes no commitment to update or revise the forward-looking statements except as required by law For additional information regarding risks and uncertainties, please refer to the risk factors and other disclosures contained in the company filings with the SEC. for additional information regarding risks and uncertainties please refer to the risk factors and other disclosures contained in the company filings with the sec Following prepared remarks, the company will host an operator-led question and answer session. following prepared remarks the company will host an operator-led question and answer session In addition, a replay of our discussion will be posted to the company's Investor Relations website. in addition a replay of our discussion will be posted to the company's investor relations website I'd now like to turn the call over to Ms. Sorond. i'd now like to turn the call over to ms sorond Please go ahead, Mariam. Please go ahead, Mariam. please go ahead mariam

Speaker 3: Thank you, Nevin. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us today. We led an eventful and impactful second quarter, marked by the May 13th conclusion of the comment period in response to the FCC's Notice of Inquiry, or NOI, titled "Promoting the Development of Positioning, Navigation, and Timing Technologies and Solutions." NextNav continues to advance our FCC advocacy with a sense of urgency. Since we filed our NOI comments and reply comments, we have filed additional technical, economic, and operational data and analysis, laying a strong foundation for the FCC to act on our proposal. We are encouraged by the FCC's actions to date and believe that this effort is a sustained priority for the FCC Chairman, as suggested by the issuance of the NOI. Thank you, Nevin. thank you nevin Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us today. good afternoon and thank you all for joining us today We led an eventful and impactful second quarter, marked by the May 13th conclusion of the comment period in response to the FCC's Notice of Inquiry, or NOI, titled "Promoting the Development of Positioning, Navigation, and Timing Technologies and Solutions." NextNav continues to advance our FCC advocacy with a sense of urgency. we led an eventful and impactful second quarter marked by the may 13th conclusion of the comment period in response to the fcc's notice of inquiry or noi titled "promoting the development of positioning navigation and timing technologies and solutions." nextnav continues to advance our fcc advocacy with a sense of urgency Since we filed our NOI comments and reply comments, we have filed additional technical, economic, and operational data and analysis, laying a strong foundation for the FCC to act on our proposal. since we filed our noi comments and reply comments we have filed additional technical economic and operational data and analysis laying a strong foundation for the fcc to act on our proposal We are encouraged by the FCC's actions to date and believe that this effort is a sustained priority for the FCC Chairman, as suggested by the issuance of the NOI. we are encouraged by the fcc's actions to date and believe that this effort is a sustained priority for the fcc chairman as suggested by the issuance of the noi A terrestrial complement and backup to GPS is an urgent national security priority, and we will continue to advocate for the FCC to promptly issue a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, or NPRM, that would enable a terrestrial complement and backup to GPS without the need for multi-billion dollar taxpayer expenditures. We were also excited to see that the FCC granted its consent for licenses to be assigned to NextNav. As we announced in March 2024, NextNav entered into an asset purchase agreement to acquire the remaining 128 active M-LMS licenses in the lower 900 MHz A block. We filed an assignment application with the FCC in April 2024, concurrent with our petition for rulemaking. On June 20th, 2025, the FCC issued an order granting its consent to the assignment of these licenses to NextNav. A terrestrial complement and backup to GPS is an urgent national security priority, and we will continue to advocate for the FCC to promptly issue a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, or NPRM, that would enable a terrestrial complement and backup to GPS without the need for multi-billion dollar taxpayer expenditures. a terrestrial complement and backup to gps is an urgent national security priority and we will continue to advocate for the fcc to promptly issue a notice of proposed rulemaking or nprm that would enable a terrestrial complement and backup to gps without the need for multi-billion dollar taxpayer expenditures We were also excited to see that the FCC granted its consent for licenses to be assigned to NextNav. we were also excited to see that the fcc granted its consent for licenses to be assigned to nextnav As we announced in March 2024, NextNav entered into an asset purchase agreement to acquire the remaining 128 active M-LMS licenses in the lower 900 MHz A block. as we announced in march 2024 nextnav entered into an asset purchase agreement to acquire the remaining 128 active m-lms licenses in the lower 900 mhz a block We filed an assignment application with the FCC in April 2024, concurrent with our petition for rulemaking. we filed an assignment application with the fcc in april 2024 concurrent with our petition for rulemaking On June 20th, 2025, the FCC issued an order granting its consent to the assignment of these licenses to NextNav. on june 20th 2025 the fcc issued an order granting its consent to the assignment of these licenses to nextnav The licenses already held by NextNav in the lower 900 MHz band are in the B and C blocks. Significantly, in addition to a grant, the order included a waiver of an FCC rule that forbids one licensee from holding both an A block license and a B or C block license in the same license area. The order also noted that the grant was likely to result in certain public interest benefits, including the potential for further development of the M-LMS band. The order permits us to complete the license assignment, and we are working towards that goal. We thank FCC Chairman Brendan Carr and the FCC staff for the meaningful effort and time they are devoting to these issues, given the numerous demands on the FCC's resources. GPS remains a vulnerable single point of failure for the U.S. economy and national security. The licenses already held by NextNav in the lower 900 MHz band are in the B and C blocks. the licenses already held by nextnav in the lower 900 mhz band are in the b and c blocks Significantly, in addition to a grant, the order included a waiver of an FCC rule that forbids one licensee from holding both an A block license and a B or C block license in the same license area. significantly in addition to a grant the order included a waiver of an fcc rule that forbids one licensee from holding both an a block license and a b or c block license in the same license area The order also noted that the grant was likely to result in certain public interest benefits, including the potential for further development of the M-LMS band. the order also noted that the grant was likely to result in certain public interest benefits including the potential for further development of the m-lms band The order permits us to complete the license assignment, and we are working towards that goal. the order permits us to complete the license assignment and we are working towards that goal We thank FCC Chairman Brendan Carr and the FCC staff for the meaningful effort and time they are devoting to these issues, given the numerous demands on the FCC's resources. we thank fcc chairman brendan carr and the fcc staff for the meaningful effort and time they are devoting to these issues given the numerous demands on the fcc's resources GPS remains a vulnerable single point of failure for the U.S. economy and national security. gps remains a vulnerable single point of failure for the u.s economy and national security The FCC is uniquely positioned to swiftly enable a 5G-based solution like NextNav that seamlessly enables a complement and backup to GPS, in addition to making available new broadband capacity. NextNav's petition to the FCC seeks to modernize rules and optimize the lower 900 MHz band to enable terrestrial PNT and 5G broadband, a market-based approach to address an urgent national security priority. This is critical infrastructure for the future, delivered in a way that is consistent with FCC Chairman Carr's Build America Agenda. Our proposal advances America's leadership in wireless by making additional spectrum available for broadband, modernizing outdated regulations, and advancing U.S. national security and resilience by enabling a wide-scale terrestrial PNT solution, all without any taxpayer funding. While critics have made unfounded claims about our proposal, they have not filed any valid technical analysis with the FCC. The FCC is uniquely positioned to swiftly enable a 5G-based solution like NextNav that seamlessly enables a complement and backup to GPS, in addition to making available new broadband capacity. the fcc is uniquely positioned to swiftly enable a 5g-based solution like nextnav that seamlessly enables a complement and backup to gps in addition to making available new broadband capacity NextNav's petition to the FCC seeks to modernize rules and optimize the lower 900 MHz band to enable terrestrial PNT and 5G broadband, a market-based approach to address an urgent national security priority. nextnav's petition to the fcc seeks to modernize rules and optimize the lower 900 mhz band to enable terrestrial pnt and 5g broadband a market-based approach to address an urgent national security priority This is critical infrastructure for the future, delivered in a way that is consistent with FCC Chairman Carr's Build America Agenda . this is critical infrastructure for the future delivered in a way that is consistent with fcc chairman carr's build america agenda Our proposal advances America's leadership in wireless by making additional spectrum available for broadband, modernizing outdated regulations, and advancing U.S. national security and resilience by enabling a wide-scale terrestrial PNT solution, all without any taxpayer funding. our proposal advances america's leadership in wireless by making additional spectrum available for broadband modernizing outdated regulations and advancing u.s national security and resilience by enabling a wide-scale terrestrial pnt solution all without any taxpayer funding While critics have made unfounded claims about our proposal, they have not filed any valid technical analysis with the FCC. while critics have made unfounded claims about our proposal they have not filed any valid technical analysis with the fcc In contrast, NextNav has invested time and resources in technical and economic studies that demonstrate the feasibility and public interest benefits of our proposal. Through these filings, we have been disproving other parties' objections in the record with robust analysis. We believe the technical record provides a strong basis for the FCC to issue an NPRM, bolstered by continued support from public safety. We were also pleased to see commenters note that a market-based approach can best deliver future-proof solutions. In June, we presented implementation and deployment details of our 5G-based PNT solution to both the FCC's Wireless Telecommunications Bureau and its Office of Engineering and Technology. Importantly, we presented a path by which, with swift FCC action, our solution could be available during this administration. Due to the use of standards-based 5G technology, we believe multiple network partnership options are possible. In contrast, NextNav has invested time and resources in technical and economic studies that demonstrate the feasibility and public interest benefits of our proposal. in contrast nextnav has invested time and resources in technical and economic studies that demonstrate the feasibility and public interest benefits of our proposal Through these filings, we have been disproving other parties' objections in the record with robust analysis. through these filings we have been disproving other parties' objections in the record with robust analysis We believe the technical record provides a strong basis for the FCC to issue an NPRM, bolstered by continued support from public safety. we believe the technical record provides a strong basis for the fcc to issue an nprm bolstered by continued support from public safety We were also pleased to see commenters note that a market-based approach can best deliver future-proof solutions. we were also pleased to see commenters note that a market-based approach can best deliver future-proof solutions In June, we presented implementation and deployment details of our 5G-based PNT solution to both the FCC's Wireless Telecommunications Bureau and its Office of Engineering and Technology. in june we presented implementation and deployment details of our 5g-based pnt solution to both the fcc's wireless telecommunications bureau and its office of engineering and technology Importantly, we presented a path by which, with swift FCC action, our solution could be available during this administration. importantly we presented a path by which with swift fcc action our solution could be available during this administration Due to the use of standards-based 5G technology, we believe multiple network partnership options are possible. due to the use of standards-based 5g technology we believe multiple network partnership options are possible In July, we filed a supplemental technical study, further validating the assumptions and conclusions in our February technical study, demonstrating that introducing 5G operations will not cause unacceptable interference to unlicensed Part 15 devices in the lower 900 MHz band. We also filed in July a second supplemental economic report prepared by The Brattle Group, establishing that NextNav's proposed optimization of the lower 900 MHz band would impose minimal costs while generating substantial national benefits, potentially amounting to tens of billions of dollars. Finally, on August 1st, we filed a technical study demonstrating that licensed tolling operations can coexist with 5G operations in the lower 900 MHz band. In addition to our progress with the FCC, I participated in a June 24th event at the U.S. Capitol focused on the urgent need for GPS resiliency. In July, we filed a supplemental technical study, further validating the assumptions and conclusions in our February technical study, demonstrating that introducing 5G operations will not cause unacceptable interference to unlicensed Part 15 devices in the lower 900 MHz band. in july we filed a supplemental technical study further validating the assumptions and conclusions in our february technical study demonstrating that introducing 5g operations will not cause unacceptable interference to unlicensed part 15 devices in the lower 900 mhz band We also filed in July a second supplemental economic report prepared by The Brattle Group, establishing that NextNav's proposed optimization of the lower 900 MHz band would impose minimal costs while generating substantial national benefits, potentially amounting to tens of billions of dollars. we also filed in july a second supplemental economic report prepared by the brattle group establishing that nextnav's proposed optimization of the lower 900 mhz band would impose minimal costs while generating substantial national benefits potentially amounting to tens of billions of dollars Finally, on August 1st, we filed a technical study demonstrating that licensed tolling operations can coexist with 5G operations in the lower 900 MHz band. finally on august 1st we filed a technical study demonstrating that licensed tolling operations can coexist with 5g operations in the lower 900 mhz band In addition to our progress with the FCC, I participated in a June 24th event at the U.S. in addition to our progress with the fcc i participated in a june 24th event at the u.s Capitol focused on the urgent need for GPS resiliency. capitol focused on the urgent need for gps resiliency The event featured a conversation between Chairman Richard Hudson, Chair of the Communications and Technology Subcommittee of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and the Honorable Greg Walden, former Chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. The event also featured Arpan Sura, Senior Counsel and Chief AI Officer to Chairman Carr, Dr. Thomas Rondeau, Principal Director for FutureG at the Department of Defense, and Adam Eldert, Director of Public Safety for Fairfax County, Virginia. The participants reinforced a critical message: GPS vulnerabilities are not hypothetical. They are real. They present threats to national security, public safety, and the economy. America must address this issue now. I'm confident that our solution will play a key role in the system of systems necessary for PNT resiliency. It is future-proof and can scale rapidly, leveraging existing network infrastructure and the vibrant global 5G ecosystem without requiring taxpayer funding. The event featured a conversation between Chairman Richard Hudson, Chair of the Communications and Technology Subcommittee of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and the Honorable Greg Walden, former Chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. the event featured a conversation between chairman richard hudson chair of the communications and technology subcommittee of the house energy and commerce committee and the honorable greg walden former chairman of the house energy and commerce committee The event also featured Arpan Sura , Senior Counsel and Chief AI Officer to Chairman Carr, Dr. Thomas Rondeau, Principal Director for FutureG at the Department of Defense, and Adam Eldert, Director of Public Safety for Fairfax County, Virginia. the event also featured arpan sura senior counsel and chief ai officer to chairman carr dr thomas rondeau principal director for futureg at the department of defense and adam eldert director of public safety for fairfax county virginia The participants reinforced a critical message: GPS vulnerabilities are not hypothetical. the participants reinforced a critical message gps vulnerabilities are not hypothetical They are real. they are real They present threats to national security, public safety, and the economy. they present threats to national security public safety and the economy America must address this issue now. america must address this issue now I'm confident that our solution will play a key role in the system of systems necessary for PNT resiliency. i'm confident that our solution will play a key role in the system of systems necessary for pnt resiliency It is future-proof and can scale rapidly, leveraging existing network infrastructure and the vibrant global 5G ecosystem without requiring taxpayer funding. it is future-proof and can scale rapidly leveraging existing network infrastructure and the vibrant global 5g ecosystem without requiring taxpayer funding Looking ahead, NextNav is committed to strengthening PNT resiliency in support of national security, public safety, and the economy. With the increasing recognition of the need for a terrestrial complement and backup to GPS, we are well-positioned for continued momentum. We remain focused on executing our strategic roadmap and driving innovation in geolocation technology. With that, let me turn things over to Chris for a review of our financials. Chris? Looking ahead, NextNav is committed to strengthening PNT resiliency in support of national security, public safety, and the economy. looking ahead nextnav is committed to strengthening pnt resiliency in support of national security public safety and the economy With the increasing recognition of the need for a terrestrial complement and backup to GPS, we are well- positioned for continued momentum. with the increasing recognition of the need for a terrestrial complement and backup to gps we are well- positioned for continued momentum We remain focused on executing our strategic roadmap and driving innovation in geolocation technology. we remain focused on executing our strategic roadmap and driving innovation in geolocation technology With that, let me turn things over to Chris for a review of our financials. with that let me turn things over to chris for a review of our financials Chris? chris

Speaker 5: Thanks, Mariam, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll address our financial performance for the second quarter of 2025 in addition to our balance sheet and liquidity. Beginning with the top line, NextNav's revenue for the second quarter was $1.2 million compared to $1.1 million in the prior year period. For the six months ended June 30, 2025, revenue was $2.7 million as compared to $2.2 million for the prior year period. The increase in both three and six months ended June 30, 2025, was primarily driven by an increase in service revenues from technology and services contracts with government and commercial customers. Operating expenses for the second quarter were $18.4 million, up approximately $2 million versus the same period last year. Thanks, Mariam, and good afternoon, everyone. thanks mariam and good afternoon everyone I'll address our financial performance for the second quarter of 2025 in addition to our balance sheet and liquidity. i'll address our financial performance for the second quarter of 2025 in addition to our balance sheet and liquidity Beginning with the top line, NextNav's revenue for the second quarter was $1.2 million compared to $1.1 million in the prior year period. beginning with the top line nextnav's revenue for the second quarter was $1.2 million compared to $1.1 million in the prior year period For the six months ended June 30, 2025, revenue was $2.7 million as compared to $2.2 million for the prior year period. for the six months ended june 30 2025 revenue was $2.7 million as compared to $2.2 million for the prior year period The increase in both three and six months ended June 30, 2025, was primarily driven by an increase in service revenues from technology and services contracts with government and commercial customers. the increase in both three and six months ended june 30 2025 was primarily driven by an increase in service revenues from technology and services contracts with government and commercial customers Operating expenses for the second quarter were $18.4 million, up approximately $2 million versus the same period last year. operating expenses for the second quarter were $18.4 million up approximately $2 million versus the same period last year Operating expenses included $1.4 million in depreciation and amortization and $3.7 million in equity compensation, compared to $1.3 million in depreciation and amortization and $3.7 million in equity compensation in the prior year period. For the first half of 2025, operating expenses were $37 million as compared to $33.6 million in 2024. Operating expenses included $2.8 million in depreciation and amortization and $8 million in equity compensation, compared to $2.6 million in depreciation and amortization and $7.9 million in equity compensation in the prior year period. Net loss for the second quarter was $63.2 million, which included a $39.5 million loss associated with a change in the fair value of derivative liability and warrants. This is compared to a net loss of $24.4 million in the prior year period, which included a loss in the change of the fair value of warrant liability of $8.5 million. Operating expenses included $1.4 million in depreciation and amortization and $3.7 million in equity compensation, compared to $1.3 million in depreciation and amortization and $3.7 million in equity compensation in the prior year period. operating expenses included $1.4 million in depreciation and amortization and $3.7 million in equity compensation compared to $1.3 million in depreciation and amortization and $3.7 million in equity compensation in the prior year period For the first half of 2025, operating expenses were $37 million as compared to $33.6 million in 2024. for the first half of 2025 operating expenses were $37 million as compared to $33.6 million in 2024 Operating expenses included $2.8 million in depreciation and amortization and $8 million in equity compensation, compared to $2.6 million in depreciation and amortization and $7.9 million in equity compensation in the prior year period. operating expenses included $2.8 million in depreciation and amortization and $8 million in equity compensation compared to $2.6 million in depreciation and amortization and $7.9 million in equity compensation in the prior year period Net loss for the second quarter was $63.2 million, which included a $39.5 million loss associated with a change in the fair value of derivative liability and warrants. net loss for the second quarter was $63.2 million which included a $39.5 million loss associated with a change in the fair value of derivative liability and warrants This is compared to a net loss of $24.4 million in the prior year period, which included a loss in the change of the fair value of warrant liability of $8.5 million. this is compared to a net loss of $24.4 million in the prior year period which included a loss in the change of the fair value of warrant liability of $8.5 million For the six-month period, net loss was $121.8 million, which included a $58 million loss associated with the change in the fair value of derivative and warrant liability and $14.4 million loss associated with debt extinguishment. This is compared to a net loss of $56 million in the prior year period, which included a loss in the change of the fair value of our warrant liability of $21.7 million. Turning now to our balance sheet and liquidity, we finished the second quarter with $176.1 million in cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments. As we have mentioned in the past, we take a prudent, long-term approach to liquidity and continue to carefully manage our use of capital as we work to advance our business. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for questions. Operator? For the six-month period, net loss was $121.8 million, which included a $58 million loss associated with the change in the fair value of derivative and warrant liability and $14.4 million loss associated with debt extinguishment. for the six-month period net loss was $121.8 million which included a $58 million loss associated with the change in the fair value of derivative and warrant liability and $14.4 million loss associated with debt extinguishment This is compared to a net loss of $56 million in the prior year period, which included a loss in the change of the fair value of our warrant liability of $21.7 million. this is compared to a net loss of $56 million in the prior year period which included a loss in the change of the fair value of our warrant liability of $21.7 million Turning now to our balance sheet and liquidity, we finished the second quarter with $176.1 million in cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments. turning now to our balance sheet and liquidity we finished the second quarter with $176.1 million in cash cash equivalents and short-term investments As we have mentioned in the past, we take a prudent, long-term approach to liquidity and continue to carefully manage our use of capital as we work to advance our business. as we have mentioned in the past we take a prudent long-term approach to liquidity and continue to carefully manage our use of capital as we work to advance our business With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for questions. with that i'll turn the call back over to the operator for questions Operator? operator

Speaker 7: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up question. For any additional questions, please re-queue. Your first question comes from Mike Crawford with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Thank you. thank you We will now begin the question and answer session. we will now begin the question and answer session If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. if you would like to ask a question please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. if you would like to withdraw your question again press star one Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up question. please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up question For any additional questions, please re-queue. for any additional questions please re-queue Your first question comes from Mike Crawford with B. your first question comes from mike crawford with b Riley Securities. riley securities Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 8: Thank you. What are your next steps in the FCC process on the progression towards a hope for NPRM? Is it more technical studies that you might introduce to the record to help achieve more consensus building, or is it just a wait and see at this point? Thank you. thank you What are your next steps in the FCC process on the progression towards a hope for NPRM? what are your next steps in the fcc process on the progression towards a hope for nprm Is it more technical studies that you might introduce to the record to help achieve more consensus building, or is it just a wait and see at this point? is it more technical studies that you might introduce to the record to help achieve more consensus building or is it just a wait and see at this point

Speaker 3: Hi, Mike, and thanks for the question. We have completed a rigorous and robust analysis, right? We did the August 1 filing that addressed the tolls and coexistence with the tolls, and in July and prior months, in February, we filed two unlicensed studies that basically showed that we can coexist with unlicensed. At this point, we have submitted a complete, rigorous, and complete analysis to the FCC for them to move forward with the NPRM from our perspective. We continue to advocate for our position. We continue to bring a sense of urgency, but we believe that we have completed the record sufficiently enough for the FCC to move to NPRM. Hi, Mike, and thanks for the question. hi mike and thanks for the question We have completed a rigorous and robust analysis, right? we have completed a rigorous and robust analysis right We did the August 1 filing that addressed the tolls and coexistence with the tolls, and in July and prior months, in February, we filed two unlicensed studies that basically showed that we can coexist with unlicensed. we did the august 1 filing that addressed the tolls and coexistence with the tolls and in july and prior months in february we filed two unlicensed studies that basically showed that we can coexist with unlicensed At this point, we have submitted a complete, rigorous, and complete analysis to the FCC for them to move forward with the NPRM from our perspective. at this point we have submitted a complete rigorous and complete analysis to the fcc for them to move forward with the nprm from our perspective We continue to advocate for our position. we continue to advocate for our position We continue to bring a sense of urgency, but we believe that we have completed the record sufficiently enough for the FCC to move to NPRM. we continue to bring a sense of urgency but we believe that we have completed the record sufficiently enough for the fcc to move to nprm

Speaker 8: Okay, great. Thank you. My one follow-up question relates to any progress or other developments in conjunction with you cooperating or offering some kind of complementary service with other space-based alternatives, such as Xona Space Systems, which is trying to build a 258 PNT constellation in LEO. Any updates on any of that front? Okay, great. okay great Thank you. thank you My one follow-up question relates to any progress or other developments in conjunction with you cooperating or offering some kind of complementary service with other space-based alternatives, such as Xona Space Systems , which is trying to build a 258 PNT constellation in LEO. my one follow-up question relates to any progress or other developments in conjunction with you cooperating or offering some kind of complementary service with other space-based alternatives such as xona space systems which is trying to build a 258 pnt constellation in leo Any updates on any of that front? any updates on any of that front

Speaker 3: We continue to believe in the system of systems. We just recently announced some partnerships, right, on the system of systems. We continue to talk to the industry beyond just terrestrial and to the satellite players to actually bring together and make this system a system of reality. At this point, we don't have any updates on any satellite-related discussions to share with you, but if when those are available, we will share. We continue to believe in the system of systems. we continue to believe in the system of systems We just recently announced some partnerships, right, on the system of systems. we just recently announced some partnerships right on the system of systems We continue to talk to the industry beyond just terrestrial and to the satellite players to actually bring together and make this system a system of reality. we continue to talk to the industry beyond just terrestrial and to the satellite players to actually bring together and make this system a system of reality At this point, we don't have any updates on any satellite-related discussions to share with you, but if when those are available, we will share. at this point we don't have any updates on any satellite-related discussions to share with you but if when those are available we will share

Speaker 8: All right. Thank you very much. All right. all right Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 7: Your next question comes from Dan McDermott with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Your next question comes from Dan McDermott with Oppenheimer. your next question comes from dan mcdermott with oppenheimer Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 9: Hi, guys. Dan on for Tim Horan. Thanks for taking our question. Just the one, you mentioned in your prepared remarks you have multiple partnership opportunities, and we saw the Adtran and Oscilloquartz announcement from last week. Can you maybe just discuss how that fits into your plans in a little more detail? Thanks. Hi, guys. hi guys Dan on for Tim Horan. dan on for tim horan Thanks for taking our question. thanks for taking our question Just the one, you mentioned in your prepared remarks you have multiple partnership opportunities, and we saw the Adtran and Oscilloquartz announcement from last week. just the one you mentioned in your prepared remarks you have multiple partnership opportunities and we saw the adtran and oscilloquartz announcement from last week Can you maybe just discuss how that fits into your plans in a little more detail? can you maybe just discuss how that fits into your plans in a little more detail Thanks. thanks

Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for the question. Actually, we're super excited about the Adtran and Oscilloquartz announcement. I mean, you've heard me talk about system of systems many times and how this would enable a very cohesive PNT complement and backup solution that ensures a few things: service continuity, accuracy, and coverage, right? I mean, we all need to come together to be able to do this, these goals. Now, this is an initial embodiment of that that you're seeing right now. We're going to use our technology, our next-gen technology, to integrate it into this multi-source timing receiver with them, and we're going to demonstrate improved resiliency through 5G-based timing. These partnerships are going to provide us with a great and a valuable opportunity to bring together multiple non-GPS sources to enable resilient PNT solutions. Yeah, thank you for the question. yeah thank you for the question Actually, we're super excited about the Adtran and Oscilloquartz announcement. actually we're super excited about the adtran and oscilloquartz announcement I mean, you've heard me talk about system of systems many times and how this would enable a very cohesive PNT complement and backup solution that ensures a few things: service continuity, accuracy, and coverage, right? i mean you've heard me talk about system of systems many times and how this would enable a very cohesive pnt complement and backup solution that ensures a few things service continuity accuracy and coverage right I mean, we all need to come together to be able to do this, these goals. i mean we all need to come together to be able to do this these goals Now, this is an initial embodiment of that that you're seeing right now. now this is an initial embodiment of that that you're seeing right now We're going to use our technology, our next-gen technology, to integrate it into this multi-source timing receiver with them, and we're going to demonstrate improved resiliency through 5G-based timing. we're going to use our technology our next-gen technology to integrate it into this multi-source timing receiver with them and we're going to demonstrate improved resiliency through 5g-based timing These partnerships are going to provide us with a great and a valuable opportunity to bring together multiple non-GPS sources to enable resilient PNT solutions. these partnerships are going to provide us with a great and a valuable opportunity to bring together multiple non-gps sources to enable resilient pnt solutions

Speaker 9: Great. Thank you. Great. great Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Sure. Sure. sure

Speaker 7: Your next question comes from the line of Peter Supino with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Your next question comes from the line of Peter Supino with Wolfe Research. your next question comes from the line of peter supino with wolfe research Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 2: Hi, this is Ron on for Peter. First, following the technical filings that you recently made, do you anticipate participating in field testing for either unlicensed operations or the tolls? Hi, this is Ron on for Peter. hi this is ron on for peter First, following the technical filings that you recently made, do you anticipate participating in field testing for either unlicensed operations or the tolls? first following the technical filings that you recently made do you anticipate participating in field testing for either unlicensed operations or the tolls

Speaker 3: At this time, we don't believe that any additional testing, including field testing or joint testing, is required for the FCC to move forward with an NPRM. At this time, we don't believe that any additional testing, including field testing or joint testing, is required for the FCC to move forward with an NPRM. at this time we don't believe that any additional testing including field testing or joint testing is required for the fcc to move forward with an nprm

Speaker 2: Got it. As a follow-up, just considering retuning, do you anticipate there's any significant costs associated with retuning tools? Got it. got it As a follow-up, just considering retuning, do you anticipate there's any significant costs associated with retuning tools? as a follow-up just considering retuning do you anticipate there's any significant costs associated with retuning tools

Speaker 3: If you saw our August 1st study and also The Brattle Group report, in the August 1st study, we showed that 5G can coexist, that it would, yeah, that some subset might require retuning. There is no replacement of toll transponders or any of these things that are needed, and these subsets of retunings are a minimal cost, as it's highlighted in The Brattle report. We've continuously said we're committed to reasonable accommodations, including financial, that are reasonable, that have been brought in good faith to ensure that there's a smooth transition to a very optimized lower 900 MHz band that enables us to solve this national security problem. It enables the tolls to continue their operations. Minimal cost, minimal retuning. If you saw our August 1st study and also The Brattle Group report, in the August 1st study, we showed that 5G can coexist, that it would, yeah, that some subset might require retuning. if you saw our august 1st study and also the brattle group report in the august 1st study we showed that 5g can coexist that it would yeah that some subset might require retuning There is no replacement of toll transponders or any of these things that are needed, and these subsets of retunings are a minimal cost, as it's highlighted in The Brattle report. there is no replacement of toll transponders or any of these things that are needed and these subsets of retunings are a minimal cost as it's highlighted in the brattle report We've continuously said we're committed to reasonable accommodations, including financial, that are reasonable, that have been brought in good faith to ensure that there's a smooth transition to a very optimized lower 900 MHz band that enables us to solve this national security problem. we've continuously said we're committed to reasonable accommodations including financial that are reasonable that have been brought in good faith to ensure that there's a smooth transition to a very optimized lower 900 mhz band that enables us to solve this national security problem It enables the tolls to continue their operations. it enables the tolls to continue their operations Minimal cost, minimal retuning. minimal cost minimal retuning

Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Thank you for the question. Thank you for the question. thank you for the question

Speaker 7: Your next question comes from the line of Brendan Lynch with Barclays. Please go ahead. Your next question comes from the line of Brendan Lynch with Barclays . your next question comes from the line of brendan lynch with barclays Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 6: Great. Thanks for taking my questions. As part of the One Big Beautiful Bill, auction authority was returned to the FCC. How do you think that will impact your process with the government going forward? Great. great Thanks for taking my questions. thanks for taking my questions As part of the One Big Beautiful Bill , auction authority was returned to the FCC. as part of the one big beautiful bill auction authority was returned to the fcc How do you think that will impact your process with the government going forward? how do you think that will impact your process with the government going forward

Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for the question. I don't see a significant impact to what we're trying to achieve, and there's a few reasons for that. First of all, the most important one is, obviously, not all spectrum is the same. Our spectrum in the low band that has incredible coverage characteristics, that is solving the PNT problem and making broadband available, is below 1 GHz. The one big beautiful bill is really looking at higher frequencies. It's above 1.3 GHz all the way to 10.5 GHz. That's the range that they're looking at. We fall in the lower range, and we obviously are having a PNT element to solve a national security problem. There's also a second reason. There's a timing perspective. The FCC does have general auction authority, but one key directive in the bill is that the NTIA needs to identify the spectrum first from existing federal users. Yeah, thank you for the question. yeah thank you for the question I don't see a significant impact to what we're trying to achieve, and there's a few reasons for that. i don't see a significant impact to what we're trying to achieve and there's a few reasons for that First of all, the most important one is, obviously, not all spectrum is the same. first of all the most important one is obviously not all spectrum is the same Our spectrum in the low band that has incredible coverage characteristics, that is solving the PNT problem and making broadband available, is below 1 GHz. our spectrum in the low band that has incredible coverage characteristics that is solving the pnt problem and making broadband available is below 1 ghz The one big beautiful bill is really looking at higher frequencies. the one big beautiful bill is really looking at higher frequencies It's above 1.3 GHz all the way to 10.5 GHz. it's above 1.3 ghz all the way to 10.5 ghz That's the range that they're looking at. that's the range that they're looking at We fall in the lower range, and we obviously are having a PNT element to solve a national security problem. we fall in the lower range and we obviously are having a pnt element to solve a national security problem There's also a second reason. there's also a second reason There's a timing perspective. there's a timing perspective The FCC does have general auction authority, but one key directive in the bill is that the NTIA needs to identify the spectrum first from existing federal users. the fcc does have general auction authority but one key directive in the bill is that the ntia needs to identify the spectrum first from existing federal users This is going to take some time. Of course, there's a process after the identification of it. Our spectrum is currently licensed and available, and we're proposing to optimize it through minimal retuning. This is going to take some time. this is going to take some time Of course, there's a process after the identification of it. of course there's a process after the identification of it Our spectrum is currently licensed and available, and we're proposing to optimize it through minimal retuning. our spectrum is currently licensed and available and we're proposing to optimize it through minimal retuning

Speaker 6: Okay. Thank you. That's helpful. You touched on this a little bit already, but can you summarize some of the differences in the economic analysis findings of The Brattle Group versus the report filed by E-ZPass and its partners? Okay. okay Thank you. thank you That's helpful. that's helpful You touched on this a little bit already, but can you summarize some of the differences in the economic analysis findings of The Brattle Group versus the report filed by E-ZPass and its partners? you touched on this a little bit already but can you summarize some of the differences in the economic analysis findings of the brattle group versus the report filed by e-zpass and its partners

Speaker 3: Sure. In general, we identified all the flaws with the report that was done. There was no value given at all to what we bring, which is potentially billions of dollars of GPS resiliency. There's zero value given to it. There was an outrageous value given to the retuning and the swap of toll readers of transponders, which our report just demonstrated is not necessary. It's minimal retuning and minimal cost. It also assumed outrageous numbers with respect to unlicensed. We're not asking the unlicensed operations to swap out of the band. They continue to enjoy the benefits that they have under their unlicensed regime to continue operating in this band. We're not asking them to vacate. There's no reason to associate a cost for vacating any of them. Sure. sure In general, we identified all the flaws with the report that was done. in general we identified all the flaws with the report that was done There was no value given at all to what we bring, which is potentially billions of dollars of GPS resiliency. there was no value given at all to what we bring which is potentially billions of dollars of gps resiliency There's zero value given to it. there's zero value given to it There was an outrageous value given to the retuning and the swap of toll readers of transponders, which our report just demonstrated is not necessary. there was an outrageous value given to the retuning and the swap of toll readers of transponders which our report just demonstrated is not necessary It's minimal retuning and minimal cost. it's minimal retuning and minimal cost It also assumed outrageous numbers with respect to unlicensed. it also assumed outrageous numbers with respect to unlicensed We're not asking the unlicensed operations to swap out of the band. we're not asking the unlicensed operations to swap out of the band They continue to enjoy the benefits that they have under their unlicensed regime to continue operating in this band. they continue to enjoy the benefits that they have under their unlicensed regime to continue operating in this band We're not asking them to vacate. we're not asking them to vacate There's no reason to associate a cost for vacating any of them. there's no reason to associate a cost for vacating any of them As our technical report that we filed, two of them show that we're not putting out any more emissions than the current licenses that we hold. There should be no change to the environment that they're operating in, and there is no reason for them to retune. There's no reason for them. They're not losing spectrum. There's not a percentage decrease on their spectrum. We've made all of these valid technical assumptions in the reports and analysis that we have provided to the FCC, and we don't believe that the economic report took into consideration any of these fact-based data and analysis and made incorrect assumptions. As our technical report that we filed, two of them show that we're not putting out any more emissions than the current licenses that we hold. as our technical report that we filed two of them show that we're not putting out any more emissions than the current licenses that we hold There should be no change to the environment that they're operating in, and there is no reason for them to retune. there should be no change to the environment that they're operating in and there is no reason for them to retune There's no reason for them. there's no reason for them They're not losing spectrum. they're not losing spectrum There's not a percentage decrease on their spectrum. there's not a percentage decrease on their spectrum We've made all of these valid technical assumptions in the reports and analysis that we have provided to the FCC, and we don't believe that the economic report took into consideration any of these fact-based data and analysis and made incorrect assumptions. we've made all of these valid technical assumptions in the reports and analysis that we have provided to the fcc and we don't believe that the economic report took into consideration any of these fact-based data and analysis and made incorrect assumptions

Speaker 6: Okay. Very good. Thank you for the color. Okay. okay Very good. very good Thank you for the color. thank you for the color

Speaker 7: Your next question comes from the line of Mike Latimore with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your next question comes from the line of Mike Latimore with Northland Capital Markets. your next question comes from the line of mike latimore with northland capital markets Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 4: Yeah, hi. This is Vijay Devar for Mike Latimore. One quick question, please. Can you address how resilient PNT fits into AI? Yeah, hi. yeah hi This is Vijay Devar for Mike Latimore. this is vijay devar for mike latimore One quick question, please. one quick question please Can you address how resilient PNT fits into AI? can you address how resilient pnt fits into ai

Speaker 3: Yes, of course. Thank you for the question. I think you need to think of resilient PNT as a backbone to AI. One of the things that a lot of the AI use cases, and I'll talk about some of them, rely on is actually accurate real-time data. For example, autonomous vehicle, critical infrastructure. If you don't have accurate PNT data, a lot of these applications fail. Basically, for example, if you need real-world precise location and timing to make some of these decisions that AI needs to make, and the PNT data is wrong, the outcomes will be extremely misguided, very dangerous, and mission-failing. It is really important to have PNT as this backbone and partner with AI. The critical infrastructure relies a lot on timing synchronizations. Yes, of course. yes of course Thank you for the question. thank you for the question I think you need to think of resilient PNT as a backbone to AI. i think you need to think of resilient pnt as a backbone to ai One of the things that a lot of the AI use cases, and I'll talk about some of them, rely on is actually accurate real-time data. one of the things that a lot of the ai use cases and i'll talk about some of them rely on is actually accurate real-time data For example, autonomous vehicle, critical infrastructure. for example autonomous vehicle critical infrastructure If you don't have accurate PNT data, a lot of these applications fail. if you don't have accurate pnt data a lot of these applications fail Basically, for example, if you need real-world precise location and timing to make some of these decisions that AI needs to make, and the PNT data is wrong, the outcomes will be extremely misguided, very dangerous, and mission-failing. basically for example if you need real-world precise location and timing to make some of these decisions that ai needs to make and the pnt data is wrong the outcomes will be extremely misguided very dangerous and mission-failing It is really important to have PNT as this backbone and partner with AI. it is really important to have pnt as this backbone and partner with ai The critical infrastructure relies a lot on timing synchronizations. the critical infrastructure relies a lot on timing synchronizations If you get faulty AI predictions, if you get uncoordinated sort of systems and security vulnerabilities, you're talking about a failure of power grids and financial systems. AI really needs real-time, accurate data. There's a whole sort of defense and security application that we're talking about when you're talking about drone swarms, when you're talking about targeting systems, guided munitions. All of them rely on positioning data. If that positioning data is not accurate, then what's the use of an AI-driven drone, right, or any of that? It's an extremely important element. We've been looking into it. We've been looking at how we can create partnerships around this, and we will have more as they become available. Thank you for the question. If you get faulty AI predictions, if you get uncoordinated sort of systems and security vulnerabilities, you're talking about a failure of power grids and financial systems. if you get faulty ai predictions if you get uncoordinated sort of systems and security vulnerabilities you're talking about a failure of power grids and financial systems AI really needs real-time, accurate data. ai really needs real-time accurate data There's a whole sort of defense and security application that we're talking about when you're talking about drone swarms, when you're talking about targeting systems, guided munitions. there's a whole sort of defense and security application that we're talking about when you're talking about drone swarms when you're talking about targeting systems guided munitions All of them rely on positioning data. all of them rely on positioning data If that positioning data is not accurate, then what's the use of an AI-driven drone, right, or any of that? if that positioning data is not accurate then what's the use of an ai-driven drone right or any of that It's an extremely important element. it's an extremely important element We've been looking into it. we've been looking into it We've been looking at how we can create partnerships around this, and we will have more as they become available. we've been looking at how we can create partnerships around this and we will have more as they become available Thank you for the question. thank you for the question

Speaker 7: That concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the conference back over to Mariam Sorond, CEO, for closing comments. That concludes our question and answer session. that concludes our question and answer session I will now turn the conference back over to Mariam Sorond, CEO, for closing comments. i will now turn the conference back over to mariam sorond ceo for closing comments

Speaker 3: Thank you. As I mentioned in the beginning of our call, we're pleased with the progress we made in the second quarter. We are confident in our approach. Though we can't speculate about when the FCC will issue an NPRM, we will continue to drive the urgency with our proposal and look forward to continuing to support the FCC's work as we seek to enable a wide-scale, future-proof complement and backup to GPS as quickly as possible. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. thank you As I mentioned in the beginning of our call, we're pleased with the progress we made in the second quarter. as i mentioned in the beginning of our call we're pleased with the progress we made in the second quarter We are confident in our approach. we are confident in our approach Though we can't speculate about when the FCC will issue an NPRM, we will continue to drive the urgency with our proposal and look forward to continuing to support the FCC's work as we seek to enable a wide-scale, future-proof complement and backup to GPS as quickly as possible. though we can't speculate about when the fcc will issue an nprm we will continue to drive the urgency with our proposal and look forward to continuing to support the fcc's work as we seek to enable a wide-scale future-proof complement and backup to gps as quickly as possible Thank you, everyone. thank you everyone

Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. ladies and gentlemen this does conclude today's conference call Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect. thank you for your participation and you may now disconnect