Intermediate Capital Group PLC — Call Transcript 2026

Good morning. Thank you for joining this webcast covering ICG's results for the 12 months ended 31st of March 2026. The slides are available on our website along with the accompanying results announcement. As a reminder, unless stated otherwise, all financial information discussed today is based on Alternative Performance Measures, which excludes the consolidation of some of our fund structures as required under IFRS. This morning, I'm joined by our CIO and CEO, Benoît Durteste, and our CFO, David Bicarregui. They will give an overview of our performance during the year. We will then take questions. With that, I'll hand over to Benoît. Thank you, Chris. Good morning, everyone. Full year 2026 has been a good year for ICG. We reinforced our scaled competitive position, beat by some margin our fundraising targets, established a strategic relationship with Amundi, and more generally built on our track record of strategic and financial growth. Over the next 45 minutes, we will be discussing this in more detail, but first, I'd like to look at this year in the context of what I believe underpins ICG's success. It comes as no surprise to those who have been following us for some time that our first priority remains investment performance. As more capital comes into private markets from non-traditional sources and new fund structure, I think this only becomes more important. We are not looking to offer clients beta or to take inconsiderate risk. We want to offer them consistent outperformance with a particular focus on cash returns, on realized performance, or in industry lingo, DPI. We're not looking to grow AUM at all costs. We are focused on delivering significant growth that is built on enhancing the track record and reputation of existing strategies and introducing new strategies with solid foundations, all with a view to generate long-term, sustainable, consistent FRE growth. This approach is clearly leading to ICG gaining market share. We have substantial amount of white space to grow into both in our flagships and our scaling strategies. If we continue to execute successfully on the opportunities ahead of us, this will inevitably translate into strong shareholder outcomes in the form of earnings growth and cash generation. In that context, our strategy is clear. We aim to reinforce our position as a leader in alternative asset management with a reputation for uncompromising focus on investment performance. We are doing that by scaling up established strategies and scaling out into new areas where we see client demand and attractive investment opportunities. This is reinforcing our position with clients, and during full year 2026, we gained 83 new institutional LPs, bringing our total to over 870. In my view, the number of alternative asset managers that have the potential to be globally relevant to clients is shrinking. ICG has emerged as one of the winners in this regard, and I believe we are positioned to continue that trajectory of outperformance. Turning to full year 2026 in more detail. As of 31st of March 2026, we manage $126 billion of assets globally. Fundraising in the year outperformed our expectations. That's $17 billion. Fee Earning AUM grew 11% during the year. We grew flagship and scaling strategies, established an exciting long-term partnership in the wealth market with Amundi, and we continued to hire, notably broadening our insurance and North American coverage within our marketing teams and hiring into our European and Asian corporate investment teams. We are resolutely on the front foot during this cycle. That translated into strong financial performance. We generated GBP 350 million of Fee Related Earnings or FRE. That's up 23% year-on-year. We are also reporting GBP 127 million of performance fee income and GBP 861 million of group operating cash flow, a record level by quite some margin. To dig a bit deeper into fundraising, which at $17 billion materially surpassed our expectations, we had our best year ever for real assets, raising $5.5 billion, and for scaling strategies more broadly, which include real assets, where we attracted $8.4 billion. In total, 34% of our capital came from North America. This is an interesting trend that I think is driven by two factors. Firstly, there's clearly a desire among some North American LPs to diversify into Europe. Across many of our strategies, we're natural beneficiaries of this. Secondly, it is testament to the years of effort we've put into our American marketing capabilities and to the increasing recognition of our performance and breadth. Turning to some specifics. Europe IX has continued to raise very successfully, both in terms of size and pace, and today stands at over EUR 10 billion. We will likely be oversubscribed and will hold a final close by the summer ahead of the initial fundraising period deadline. In a market environment where many require extensions to fundraising periods, this is an impressive outcome. This is also ICG's first-ever commingled fund to be bigger than EUR 10 billion. It operates in a space that is increasingly attractive. I believe it will be the largest structured capital fund of its kind globally. We are also, as you know, a global leader in GP-led secondaries. I do not know of any other European manager with global leadership in two asset classes. Positive developments for the flagships. We also had two scaling strategies that held final closes for their more recent funds, both at or even above their targets and both in real assets. Infrastructure II and Metro II saw big upsizes, high re-up rates, and strong cross-selling from existing ICG clients, as well as good interest from new clients. Successful second vintages are a critical milestone. They are vital to cementing the reputation and position of a strategy. We can look confidently to meaningful growth in both strategies in the coming decade. This is a very promising development. We now have visibility on significant organic growth potential in the broad real asset space, and this could be further enhanced by expanding into adjacencies such as Infrastructure Asia, which we have recently launched, or others, such as possibly infrastructure debt. Looking ahead, we have high hopes for LP secondaries, which will be in the market for full year 2027. It is also likely we will launch the sixth vintages of both Strategic Equity and Senior Debt Partners later in full year 2027, although the exact timing of those is not certain. Given our fundraising cycle and which funds happen to be in market at a given point in time, we'd expect fundraising in full year 2027 naturally to be below that in full year 2026. As David will talk about later, the trajectory of our Fee Earning AUM, which drives our management fees and FRE, is only loosely related to in-year fundraising. It's really the fundraising cycle that matters. On this, importantly, this year has anchored our performance for this fundraising cycle, and it is clear that we are well on our way to achieving our full-year fundraising guidance, potentially even a year early. Turning to investment activity, transaction levels remained healthy over the last 12 months. We deployed $14 billion across our direct investment strategies and realized almost $7 billion. The broader point, in my view, is that while there is always an element of lumpiness in these figures, we have remained very disciplined in our deployment across strategies. Our investment committees drive this culture, and during the year, these discussions have been some of the hardest in my memory. We have, for instance, clearly been more cautious than many in direct lending in recent years, although in full year 2026, largely by taking advantage of financing opportunities in our existing portfolio, this strategy has deployed close to $4 billion. In secondaries, both GP and LP-led, the opportunity set has been huge, but we are being incredibly and increasingly selective and in particular cautious around valuations. Given the macro situation, I do not anticipate a meaningful change in the investment environment during full year 2027. With dry powder of $36 billion, we are well-positioned across all asset classes to invest through the cycle and to lean in hard when we see particular opportunities emerge. Ultimately, what clients care about is realized performance and cash return, especially in higher return strategies with no natural liquidity. These strategies, which represented three-quarters of our management fees in full year 2026, have an established track record of market-leading DPI. During the year, we distributed $9 billion to clients in these strategies, further anchoring fund returns. On the right-hand side of the slide, we show how DPI for a number of these funds has evolved over time. This metric is clearly becoming more meaningful for clients and is a key differentiator for many of ICG strategies, directly contributing to our continued success in fundraising. Meanwhile, our debt strategies have continued to perform strongly. I'm going to spend a minute on direct lending, our Senior Debt Partners, the flagship strategy, to remind you what we do and, given the noise in the market, what we do not do. 100% of our loans from SDP are senior secured cash flow-based lending. In that way, we're old school. We do not lend to value or to revenue. There is no PIK or sub-debt in SDP. We have minimal software exposure. In the unrealized vintages, SDP 5 and 4, it's approximately 5%. For the last two years, we have not written a single direct loan in the U.S. by choice. From a product perspective, we have no open-ended or so-called semi-liquid structures in direct lending. The consequences here are twofold. Firstly, we are not exposed at all to redemptions. Secondly, we have substantial dry powder to deploy and take advantage of the cycle. This conservative approach has not escaped institutional investors and is contributing to our enhanced reputation. Our CLO business, which is also not exposed to redemptions, has similarly been performing strongly. This year, we issued three new CLOs and are continuing to receive dividends in line with our historical average. In all, when I look at across the portfolios and fund performance, whether in higher return strategies or debt strategies, I feel we are very well positioned to continue to deliver for our clients and to strengthen our market position and standing with LPs. That delivery and our clients' confidence in our future potential has enabled us to gain market share in recent years across both our flagship and scaling strategies. This slide is indicative only as market-wide data is never perfect or entirely comparable. Based on publicly available data, all of these strategies have grown faster than the markets in which they operate. Let me reiterate, and it goes back to my first slide, I view this as an output of our investment performance. Top-quality returns to clients lead to growth, and I expect that to continue. Institutional investors with whom I exchange all the time remain committed to private markets and are looking to grow allocations with the right managers. From my perspective, they are increasingly focused on alignment of interest with GPs. They are increasingly wary of managers pursuing an AUM-gathering strategy. They do not want their deployment cycle to be governed by the ebbs and flows of wealth capital in evergreen vehicles, or to have to worry about potential conflicts of interest in allocations. In this respect, ICG stands in a differentiated position compared to many of our global alternative asset manager peers. Looking ahead, the opportunity set for us is huge. Based on our existing client base today, 3/4 are invested in only one strategy and fewer than 20% are invested in two strategies. As demonstrated by the final close of Infra II and Metro II in real estate, cross-selling is becoming an increasingly meaningful part of our fundraising, along with our continued ability to attract new clients. I'm confident that today we have the investment strategies, scale, and client franchise to be beneficiary of institutions seeking to do more with fewer managers. To conclude, I'm very proud of the results we are reporting today. I view them as another checkpoint in the journey of profitable, scalable growth that ICG has been on for over a decade, and I see huge opportunity ahead. Importantly, our strategy is clear, aligned to what our clients want and how the market is evolving, and we have financial resources and people to execute on it. With that, I'll pass over to David. Thank you, Benoît. I'm going to talk about our evolved financial presentation and then dig into our FY 2026 financial performance in more detail. Before that, I want to reinforce the link between the strategy that Benoît has just outlined and the financial results we're reporting. We have a broad and scaled range of investment strategies across multiple asset classes, which has led over the last five years to our Fee Earning AUM doubling to $87 billion at March 2026, all organically. Due to our focus on growing higher return, higher fee strategies, we are seeing a very positive mix effect in our management fee rate, which has expanded by 13 basis points over the last five years to stand at 98 basis points today. The link to our financial performance is clear. A diversified range of scaled and scalable strategies that meet our clients' needs, leading to growing Fee Earning AUM at attractive management fee rates. This resulted in management fee growth above that of Fee Earning AUM. As our strategies scale up through multiple vintages, we see significant operating leverage. That link between our strategy and our financial performance has driven the evolution in our financial presentation that you see today, which focuses on three distinct related attributes of value. The first is Fee Related Earnings or FRE, defined as the profit generated from the management fees, less group cash operating expenses. This metric clearly shows the trajectory I was describing on the previous page of growing Fee Earning AUM, management fees, and operating leverage. Shareholders also receive performance fee income, which in our financials has no cost associated with it. Finally, we have the balance sheet portfolio, which co-invests alongside our clients in our funds and seeds new strategies and products. Alongside these three metrics, we will also focus on group operating cash flow and net debt. Importantly, from a shareholder perspective, we are also reporting these on a per share basis. Put together, this financial presentation aligns with our business and the drivers of shareholder value. It's clear and simple, and it's comparable to other global alternative asset managers. In the coming pages, I will focus on each of these five components. Feedback on our FRE disclosure back in November was very positive, and of course, we will welcome any more thoughts on this evolution. As a result of these changes, we are updating our medium-term financial guidance. We are replacing guidance on FMC margin with guidance that over the medium term, we expect FRE margin, excluding catch-up fees, to expand. Over the last five years, FRE margin has grown by 14 percentage points. As Benoît said, we're two years into our fundraising guidance and have raised $40 billion of the $55 billion, so well on our way to meeting or exceeding this target. We continue to expect performance fee income over the medium term to represent between 10% and 20% of our total fee income. Moving to full year 2026 specifically, and starting with a snapshot of the financial performance, we are reporting FRE of GBP 350 million, up 23% year-on-year. Performance fees were GBP 127 million, including a GBP 72 million transitional gain due to the change in recognition methodology announced in October 2025. Our balance sheet portfolio stood at GBP 2.6 billion. You can see these on a per share basis on the right-hand side of the page. At a group level, our operating cash flow was very high at GBP 861 million. This was a key driver of reducing our net debt to GBP 113 million, down from GBP 629 million in March 2025, and our net debt to FRE now stands at 0.3x. Before moving to each of these metrics in turn, I'll start with Fee Earning AUM. This has grown 11% over the last 12 months, and today stands at $87 billion. We also have $19 billion of AUM not yet earning fees, which would generate approximately GBP 120 million in annual management fees if deployed. As Benoît said earlier, in-year fundraising only has a loose link to the in-year trajectory of Fee Earning AUM. This is clear if you look at this over the last decade. Fee Earning AUM has grown every year, including through a series of macro shocks, which public market valuations and private market transaction activity saw periods of significant volatility. Over the last decade, our Fee Earning AUM has grown at an annualized rate of 17%, and over the last five years at an annualized rate of 14%. The effect of Fee Earning AUM growth and expanding fee rates is visible in our management fees, which for FY 2026 were GBP 685 million, up 13% year-over-year in absolute terms, or 17% excluding catch-up fees. Over the last five years, management fees have grown at an annualized rate of 20%. Over that period, we've also seen meaningful shift in the composition of management fees by asset class. As shown on the chart on the left, credit and private debt have grown more modestly over this period. While structured capital, private equity secondaries, and real assets have delivered significant expansion, and combined, our higher return strategies account for over 75% of our management fees. Looked at another way, the three scaling strategies that Benoît mentioned earlier, LP secondaries, real estate, and infrastructure, have become increasingly meaningful. Together, the three of them now account for over 20% of group management fees, compared to around 10% five years ago. This is an important development. It reflects the success of building these capabilities organically, is evidence of the increasing diversification at scale, and gives clear visibility on the embedded growth potential within ICG today. Turning to FRE, which for FY 2026 was GBP 350 million or GBP 1.20 per share. This is up 23% in the year and 30% annualized over the last five years, driven by high growth in management fees alongside strong cost control, with FRE operating expenses up 5% year-on-year. Our FRE margin, excluding catch-up fees over the last five years, has grown from 33% in FY 2021 to 47% today. As I said earlier, over the medium term, we expect to see continued expansion in that FRE margin. Performance fee income was GBP 127 million this year, including a GBP 72 million transitional gain due to the change in recognition approach announced in October 2025. The majority of the transition gain, GBP 49 million, was driven by the initial recognition in structured capital and secondary strategies, including Europe VIII, SE IV, and Mid-Market I. Realized performance fees, that is cash received, came in at GBP 96 million in the year due to some large realizations for funds that are in carry. Looking ahead, as we continue to grow high return strategies, performance fees are likely to become a more visible and significant contributor to our top line. Moving to the balance sheet portfolio, which had an asset value of GBP 2.6 billion as of March. Our balance sheet exists to support the growth in our fee and in AUM, which it does through two routes. Firstly, co-investing alongside our funds, which accounts for about 90% of the fair value, and secondly, by seeding new strategies and new products. As a result, the balance sheet performance mirrors that of the funds in which it invests. From a P&L perspective, over the last five years, it has generated an average annual return of 10%, including a 5% return for this financial year. During the year, all asset classes except debt generated between 5% and 8% returns, while debt returned GBP -7 million, which is -2%. It was driven by a number of mark-to-market movements within our CLO portfolio. This year's outcome, in the context of a challenging macro backdrop, underlines the diversification and the resilience of the balance sheet portfolio, which we expect to generate low double-digit percentage annualized returns over the long term. From a cash perspective, not only does the balance sheet benefit from the cash generation of our funds, we have also been deliberately reducing the absolute commitment from ICG plc as strategies become more established. We have a proven track record of doing this, which you can see clearly on the right-hand side. As a result, organically growing strategies is cash intensive in the early years and progressively asset light as we move through the vintages. Doing this successfully is highly accretive to FRE per share, and the co-investment portfolio has become highly cash generative as vintages have progressed. This dynamic is now quite visible with the co-investment portfolio generating an average net cash flow yield over the last five years of 10%. Indeed, as we believe we're in the early stages of a multi-year cycle in which the balance sheet could generate significant cash from our existing product set as older co-investments are realized and funds currently being invested have lower absolute commitments from the firm. Of course, there'll be an element of lumpiness to this, but the structural trend is clear. Cash received from FRE performance fees and the balance sheet portfolio have each grown year-over-year in full year 2026. This has led to a very strong year for the group operating cash flow, which totaled GBP 861 million compared to GBP 533 million last year. As a result of this profitable cash generative growth, our financial position has never been stronger. We ended the period with total available liquidity of GBP 1.5 billion, a net debt of GBP 113 million. We have a very robust capital structure and a disciplined approach to managing both our debt and our equity base. Drawing this all together, we have strategic and financial flexibility like never before to maximize long-term shareholder value, and we have a clear capital allocation priority to execute on that. Our progressive dividend policy continues, and our ordinary dividend of GBP 0.87 per share for full year 2026 marks the 16th consecutive year of growth. Once we reach a position of zero net debt, we will continue to allocate thoughtfully. In this regard, all options are on the table. Optimizing co-investments alongside our existing products and strategies, seeding new products and strategies, making strategic investments, whether in M&A or partnerships more broadly, and of course, returning capital to shareholders through dividends or buybacks. As a management team, we view these options in the round to assess what will generate the best risk-adjusted long-term growth in FRE per share. Taken together, these results give us confidence in the trajectory of the business and in the opportunities ahead. With that, I'll pass back to Chris. Thank you very much. Thank you, David. To keep things moving, we would ask that you please try to limit your questions to a maximum of two each. Analysts can ask verbal questions through the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen or star nine if dialed in by phone. Alternatively, people can submit questions through the Spark Live platform. We already have a number in, and I will start with Oliver Carruthers at Goldman Sachs. Oliver, your line should be open, please. Morning, team. Thanks very much for the presentation. I just have one question, and it follows on from that slide 22, David, that you showed at the end. I guess, if we think of part two here, that was hitting net debt of zero, which looks like you might be doing this year. I'm interested a little bit in how you think this capital deployment priority might play out in practice. I guess I'm thinking of this also in the context of the new FRE performance fees and balance sheet disclosure that you give and the new guidance that gives alignment on this metrics on an FRE per share basis. As you say, that aligns you to the global peer set. I think it also highlights How you traded a discount to this global peer set, and it sounds like you're very focused on closing that discount. As you say, the balance sheet is at the beginning of this early year cycle of elevated cash flow given maturing investments and the lower commitment needs. In the context of that, I guess, four-part capital deployment priority, I'm really interested in how you think about share buybacks in this context. Thank you. Yeah. Morning, Ollie. Good question. I think a few things I'd say. Firstly, just picking up on one of the comments you made or the implications you made, I think we're very focused on growing the business, investment performance. As we said in our presentation, that will drive growth and positive outcomes for shareholders over the long term. That's what we are in control of, that's what we want to drive, and that's our focus, our investment performance first. The other things will follow. We think FRE per share and FRE in general, therefore gives you a much clearer basis of comparison to global peer set. That was one of the drivers of why we think this is an important way to exhibit the growth that we've already achieved and the growth potential to come. On capital allocation priorities, I deliberately made the comment that we're very committed to the progressive dividend and reaching zero net debt. Those are our near-term priorities. We're clearly not there yet in terms of reaching a net cash position. Given the operating environment, actually having strategic optionality and extra liquidity is not a bad thing. We don't feel under undue hurry around that. You're right. If you play this forward under reasonable assumptions, that'll be something that plays out over the next year or two as a practical matter. Yeah. If I can add. I agree, David. We'll see. Time will tell. As David said, that's giving us optionality. It may be that we find ourselves in a very strong financial position exactly at the right point in the cycle. As you're aware, not everyone is showing the sort of performance that we are showing today. There is a lot of pain in the broader alternative asset management industry. This could create some opportunities for us. Historically, one, we've been cautious. Two, it's been made difficult by, as you pointed out, the fact that we've always traded at a meaningful discount to peers. I could see situations where we could take advantage of the environment and perhaps accelerate our growth in some specific areas. That's certainly something that we're keeping a very close eye on. Perfect. Thank you, Ollie. Let's now go please to David McCann at Deutsche Numis. David, your line should be open. Morning. Hopefully you can hear me okay. Two questions from me, really focusing on the new disclosure, if that's okay. The first one really is, as with the changes that have been made, are you going to subsequently make any changes to the board and other key staff remuneration, KPIs in light of the new disclosures? If so, what KPIs are now going to matter to the board? What hurdles will need to be achieved? That would be the first question. Secondly, just a more technical one really. Thinking about the definition of FRE that you've now struck, can you just outline why you're not including share-based compensation, depreciation, and amortization within the definition of FRE? Related to that, how should we think about the instance of the effective tax rate across the group, splitting them between FRE, PRE, and the other components? Thanks. Morning, David. Let me take your questions maybe in reverse order. In terms of the technicals of the definition, we're using a definition that we believe to be quite comparable to market standards. Most firms don't include share-based compensation in FRE. It's meant to be more aligned to a cash view of the world, and shares obviously aren't cash. In that sense, it's comparable. We do obviously break out all the components, so if you choose to reconstruct the measure a different way or adjust, that's obviously available to you, as well. Tax effects are what they are. It tends to be more about the mix of investment returns versus fees, and obviously those are hard to predict in a given period. That effectively creates the ETR for the year. You'd have to have a view on mix of revenue to really come up with that answer. In terms of the board, obviously we're not talking about the board here today. We're actually talking about the external presentation of the FRE metric, the margin and the guidance. I'm sure in due course, the performance measurement of the management team will be aligned to the way that we're talking about our medium-term guidance. Thank you, David. Let's move on to Hubert Lam at Bank of America. Hubert, your line should be open. Hi. Good morning. Just got two questions. Firstly, on costs, can you just give us your guidance on group cost growth for this year? I think for 2026 it was only 3% cost growth, which was better than expected. Just wondering how we should think about this year. Second question is on deployment. I think, Benoît, you were a bit cautious on, correct me if I'm wrong, on deployment this year, similar to last year. Considering you have about GBP 13 billion of dry powder and debt and the dislocation we're seeing in that market, do you see possibly more opportunities to deploy that this year? Thank you. David, do you want to go and start? Let me just take the cost question first, Hubert. Good morning. I think we've clearly got operating leverage in the business. We've been talking about that for some time. Three quarters of our cost base, as you know, is people and people-related expenses. That's really a view on how much headcount and compensation outcomes. We have good control levers around that. I wouldn't take 3% as new normal. I've been guided more in the sort of 5%-10% range because we are clearly still growing the business. As we said in our presentation, we will want to make selective hires, add to the platform, continue to improve the client experience, all of which implies some cost. Clearly we've got positive operating margin embedded into what we've already got. Your question on deployment. As I mentioned during the presentation, discussions at investment committees these days are lively and interesting. If you think about it, we have to contend with an incredibly complex geopolitical environment, economic uncertainty, and to add to that, the AI disruption and what this could mean for various industries. That creates quite an interesting environment. Within that, listen, our goal is to be finding the opportunities and finding opportunities that work long term. We're investing for the long term, we're looking through cycles. There are always opportunities. The answer will be different by asset class. I mentioned in direct lending, we've taken advantage of our existing portfolios. We've been doing this for a long time in direct lending. We've been taking advantage of our existing portfolios to add financings to companies that we know and with legal documentation that is quite favorable, particularly compared to some of what we see in the number of deals in the market these days. We also have a number of niche-er strategies, not in size, because they've been growing in size, but certainly in their approach to our Flagship Structured Capital. It's precisely designed to deal with an environment like this one. It's self-originated transaction. They're non-sponsored deals where we're supporting family owners and founder owners. It requires a lot of origination capability, but that means you're less beholden to the broader buyout market and that cycle. It's not a surprise I mentioned how successful we've been in fundraising there. That shouldn't be a surprise, because that's quite an interesting space to be in right now, and we happen to be a global leader. You have to pick your spots. I mentioned secondaries as well. There's a lot of deal flow in secondaries because obviously, all the GPs are looking for some liquidity and LPs as well. Having said that, there are still questions around equity valuations, and so we're very, very cautious. This is an environment where, yes, you want to find the opportunities to deploy, but you also need to be conscious of the risk out there and remain quite selective and cautious. That's what we're known for. That's always been our approach. We're not going to move away from being more on the conservative side and highly disciplined in deployment. Thank you very much. Moving on. Nick Herman from Citi. Your line should be open, Nick. Yes. Good morning, gents. Thanks for taking my questions. Can you hear me okay? Yes. Can you hear me? Hello? Yes. Perfect. Thanks. Yeah, two questions from me. On the first one, I guess on the balance sheet, you dropped the NIR targets, and I hear you that you still expect to achieve double-digit returns over time. Does that imply, I guess, more volatility in balance sheet returns in the short term, potentially from debt returns? I guess more broadly, it feels like you're trying to de-emphasize the balance sheet a little here. This is another strong set of results that's been overshadowed by the balance sheet. Maybe this is a question for another time, have you considered other actions to minimize volatility and balance sheet returns? Then the second question I had was, you said that you see significant operating leverage and are targeting FRE margin accretion. You're at 51% today or 47% ex catch-up fees, effectively at the end of your current fundraising cycle. Broadly speaking, where do you think you can reach by the end of the next fundraising cycle? Would 50% be a reasonable assumption? Thanks. Nick. Let me take those. Firstly, we haven't changed our view on the balance sheet. Let's be clear. We talk about double-digit returns over the medium to long term. That still remains our view. Why is that? As we said, the balance sheet is invested in the funds, and that's what the funds do over a long time horizon. In substance, nothing has changed. This year was a 5% return. I don't think in the environment we're in, that should be massively surprising to individuals, and it shows the diversification benefit of the balance sheet, if anything, investing across multiple asset classes. On the margin, I tend to agree with your direction of travel in your statement. We are going to accrete FRE margin over time. It'll be lumpy in a given year because of the fundraising cycle and the way that management fees are recorded. Fundamentally and structurally, we can accrete FRE margin from here, which is exactly why we've put it into the guidance. I think it's worth mentioning if it's not clear. Obviously, it's in the data pack, but the balance sheet has very limited exposure to direct lending because we practically don't co-invest in the direct lending funds because we don't have to, because the LPs understand that the returns are not suitable for our balance sheet. We hardly co-invest. The exposure is on CLOs, which we've historically disciplined ourself to limit at around 10% of the balance sheet. Our exposure to debt instrument in the debt strategies and the balance sheet is actually quite limited. I think there's a bit of a, potentially, a misconception there. Fundamentally, as David said, the balance sheet is essentially tracking our funds. Again, I think the linkage has not really been made. We wouldn't be fundraising and having the success that we've been having and that we've been showing during this presentation for a long time now if our funds weren't performing well. That's what the balance sheet is invested in. It just mirrors that. Everything's medium to long term for us. What happens in a given year is largely irrelevant. Medium-term, it will reflect what we are doing in our funds, which clearly LPs seem to appreciate. Yeah, exactly. Nick, as you'll have seen, the co-invest portfolio generated nearly GBP 500 million of net cash flow. We should think of cash generation as well on that. Moving on, conscious of time, Michael Sanderson at Barclays, your line should be open. Good morning. Thank you for taking the question. A couple, please. First one, Benoît, you were making some comments about the nature of private wealth, and how your institutional angle is particularly strong. I was just interested how we think about Amundi partnership and the products you're likely to put there, and how those will suit your more institutional focus and how you're going to change pieces around the investment process, if at all, around that. The second one was just talking about some of the fundraising. You talked about the FY 2027 back end, I think Strategic Equity and Senior Debt starting to raise. That feels like a slight bring forward from, I think, previous conversations. You can correct me obviously if I'm wrong. Given the deployment environment was seeming, from your commentary, to be challenging still, I was quite surprised you would bring those forward in that environment. Feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood previous position. Okay. Thank you, Michael. Two good questions. First of all, on Amundi, that's a really good question. The main reason we entered into the partnership with Amundi is that we share a very similar view on how to approach the alternative asset class for wealth, which is largely not how it's been done to date. Which is why we're going to take our time, by the way, to craft the product that we think are adequate, and adequately protect the end investor. For instance, the evergreen vehicles I don't think are appropriate for many of the asset classes in our world. They can work in credit and in LP secondaries, but with a number of caveats. I'm not going to through the whole list, but for instance, I have some pragmatic rules. For instance, that if you have an evergreen vehicle, it should be investing in parallel to the institutional fund that you have, which no one does, by the way. This is not the way it's been done. It has implications because it means that you're not going to be rushing to invest any money that's coming through the door in your evergreen. You're just going to wait for the next deal that gets done. You're going to be holding cash for longer, which has an impact on returns, but it's the right thing to do. Yeah, this is one example, but we're putting a set of our own rules and constraints in what we think is the right thing to do, and we'll only approach the market on that basis. There's another aspect which is fundamentally, in both Amundi's and our view, is the long-term bigger prize. It will require education of the market, which is that in many areas of the market, particularly anything that has to do with retirements, with pension, and especially in Europe, the education will be that some of these portfolios should have a long-term outlook and therefore be invested in long-term strategies. For that, alternative assets are a very good way to diversify, but you need to explain that they're illiquid, and that you cannot magically create liquidity out of fundamentally illiquid products. That's what we're working on. I think long term, the potential is huge, but we're going to remain very disciplined in that way. As a result, there is no inconsistency, because I think that was part of your question, with how we're approaching infrastructure, because in a sense, we're pushing wealth closer to how we're investing institutional investor money, which is as it should be. You're also avoiding all the potential conflicts of interest of allocation between buckets, which I think it's a really bad idea to get into that, and we don't want to get into that. That's for how we're approaching the wealth opportunity with Amundi. There's a lot of work going on. Just yesterday, we filed in Luxembourg with the CSSF to create the SICAV, which will be the umbrella SICAV for our various products. Things are progressing. On the fundraising front, you're partially correct. On direct lending, I think we're pretty much on track with what we expected. It is always difficult to predict the exact timing because as you pointed out, it is correlated to deployment, but that is pretty much when we expect it to come back to market with SDP, sometime this year or maybe early next year. Maybe we are a quarter ahead, but I wouldn't make too much of that. Strategic Equity, it is true that we are perhaps a bit ahead of what we initially anticipated, which incidentally is why we thought for a while about launching a mid-market version of that strategy, and we decided to hold precisely because the large cap was going to come back a bit earlier than we thought, and we didn't want to create an overlap. We might come back to that in the future. That is just for Strategic Equity. Two deals will move the needle. Again, I wouldn't make too much of that because you're successful on two transactions closing, and suddenly you're ahead of time, or it so happens we're ahead, but you could be late by six months, it doesn't make much of a difference. Yes, we're slightly ahead on Strategic Equity. In the scheme of things, doesn't really change things. What really matters is the cycle, is how much we raise in the next fund. We have a global leadership in that strategy. That fund is larger than that of peers globally by some margin. I'd like to maintain that head start. That's going to be the goal for the fundraising of the next Strategic Equity. Thank you very much. We have Haley Tam from UBS. Haley, I think your line should be open. Perhaps we don't. With that, I think there are no more verbal questions. Can you hear me now? Oh, hi, Haley. Yes, we can. Hi. Sorry. I did the classic I forgot to unmute, so I apologize for that. Can I ask you two questions, please? Firstly, on the cash flow generation from the portfolio on the balance sheet, I think there was a significant realization of more than GBP 500 million you flagged this year. Was that all from reducing the co-investments or optimizing the co-investments, or was there any particular realizations that we should be flagging? That's the first question. The second one, just in terms of the balance sheet investment returns, 8% on structured capital and secondaries for two consecutive years now. Can I just confirm what you've said a few times, that is representative of what you're seeing on the flagship funds? If so, how can we square that with the very impressive IRRs and MOICs that you report for those funds? Thank you. Yeah. Maybe I'll just take the realization question, Haley. Obviously, it's the totality of everything that's going on in the funds that's generating that realization. I described it as quite high because we had a good year for realizations across portfolios, and therefore the balance sheet benefited, as do LPs from those realizations. That's why we had the higher elevated level of structural inflows. I also described the trend. The trend is clear. If we continue to allocate less capital to successive vintages, which is what we're doing, the back book of co-investments will be generating more cash and will be more positive to pay down the debt and do the other things we talked about. It's more the trend and more the direction of travel, which I think was particularly interesting, but it was a high year for realizations from a balance sheet perspective. The difficulty, it's always the same, is it's very difficult to look at a one-year performance and draw conclusions on funds because, yes, there is a link, but it's not an immediate link. I think I've mentioned before that there are a lot of things that come into play in funds. In structured capital, our performance is upper teens. Right? This is upper teens over the life of the fund. From one year to another, particularly if you've had a number of exits, typically because that's what accounting requires, the closer you get to exit, the more you converge towards whatever exit value would be. Once you've achieved that, well, there's no uplift for a period of time because you've recognized it in the past. Also when you're deploying, you do not recognize any uplift in value for a year unless it's debt and you have interest, and you have to recognize the interest accrual. Otherwise, if you have any equity component, our policy is we do not recognize any increase in value for a year. The more you deploy, the less of an increase you're seeing in your NAV, at least in the near term, and then you see that catch up later on. That's why it's very difficult to look at an in-year. I think it's more helpful, and we provide some information on that, to look at fund performance, because in the end, that's what the balance sheet ends up reflecting. It just may be in different years or spread out over a longer period of time. If the question is, are you seeing a deterioration in the performance of the underlying fund? The answer is no, absolutely not. We're not seeing that at all. Nor should we, in a way, because we're not experiencing a recession. It would be unusual if we were to see this at this point. Thanks, Benoît. There's been a written question around whether we see any merit in doing something along the lines of the SRTs that the banks have been doing around in balance sheet risk transfer. Dave, that's not something that we consider within the balance sheet's available strategies. We can't. Just to be clear, that's not a financial decision. We can't. The balance sheet is co-investing in the fund. It's the alignment of interest. That's our co-investment in the funds. Okay? We are committing to the LPs essentially to keep skin in the game. We couldn't, through the back door, de-risk the balance sheet, i.e., disalign ourselves with LPs. That's not what they want, that's not what they need, right? I think it's really important to understand is LPs in our world are looking for alignment of interest. They're typically looking for 1%-2% of co-investment in any strategy. Some of it is put in personally by the investment teams, but as you can imagine, if you're raising a GBP 10 billion fund, the teams can put up 1%-2%. That's where you need the balance sheet. As a result, the balance sheet needs to remain on the hook. We can't suddenly start securitizing or doing some fancy off-balance sheet de-risking. Great. There is one written question that we'll close with. Benoît, your CEO review and your tone today has been maybe slightly more long-term optimistic on the opportunities ahead, particularly around the scaling strategies in for real estate and LP secondaries. If you were to think 5, 10 years ahead, what could you do with the existing product suite of businesses, or Well, that is a bit of a crystal ball. Maybe I sounded more optimistic. The reason for that is, as I pointed out, you really only know that a strategy has probably taken hold once you are through the second vintage, right? Raising a first fund, having a first-time fund close is incredibly hard. Even when you have done that, you are not out of the woods. It is only once you have raised the second vintage, which is typically much larger than the first one, that you have properly established a team, established a credibility, you have an LP base, and you can then look at, okay, normally if things go to plan, normally you are just going to increase that strategy. It so happens that in real assets, so both in Infra and in real estate, hopefully in LP secondaries tomorrow, but we are not there yet in LP secondaries. In infra equity and in real estate equity, we are now there. That's why I sound a lot more confident because once you've reached that point, it's a lot easier to start thinking about, okay, I've raised a GBP 3+ billion infra equity strategy for Europe. It's not unrealistic to think that the next fund can be GBP 5+ billion. It's not unrealistic to think that on the back of that success, I can start looking at Asia. Same thing in real estate, maybe with an eye on the U.S. more than Asia in real estate. Suddenly it's more credibly opening the door to growth, which is maybe why I'm sounding more confident is just it's easier to be more confident on those. Hopefully, a year from now or two years from now, we'll be able to say the same about LP secondaries. As a result, suddenly that's creating quite a lot of growth potential, right? Because if you look at infrastructure and real estate together, in the next vintage, the two combined could be as large as our historical flagship fund as European corporate. These are fees on committed strategies, it's the same level of profitability. That's a positive outlook. Brilliant. Thank you all for joining us. Thank you for attending today. This concludes the presentation. Thank you all.

Speaker 2: Good morning. Thank you for joining this webcast covering ICG's results for the 12 months ended 31st of March 2026. The slides are available on our website along with the accompanying results announcement. As a reminder, unless stated otherwise, all financial information discussed today is based on Alternative Performance Measures, which excludes the consolidation of some of our fund structures as required under IFRS. This morning, I'm joined by our CIO and CEO, Benoît Durteste, and our CFO, David Bicarregui. They will give an overview of our performance during the year. We will then take questions. With that, I'll hand over to Benoît. Good morning. good morning Thank you for joining this webcast covering ICG's results for the 12 months ended 31st of March 2026. thank you for joining this webcast covering icg's results for the 12 months ended 31st of march 2026 The slides are available on our website along with the accompanying results announcement. the slides are available on our website along with the accompanying results announcement As a reminder, unless stated otherwise, all financial information discussed today is based on Alternative Performance Measures, which excludes the consolidation of some of our fund structures as required under IFRS. as a reminder unless stated otherwise all financial information discussed today is based on alternative performance measures which excludes the consolidation of some of our fund structures as required under ifrs This morning, I'm joined by our CIO and CEO, Benoît Durteste, and our CFO, David Bicarregui. this morning i'm joined by our cio and ceo benoît durteste and our cfo david bicarregui They will give an overview of our performance during the year. they will give an overview of our performance during the year We will then take questions. we will then take questions With that, I'll hand over to Benoît. with that i'll hand over to benoît

Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris. Good morning, everyone. Full year 2026 has been a good year for ICG. We reinforced our scaled competitive position, beat by some margin our fundraising targets, established a strategic relationship with Amundi, and more generally built on our track record of strategic and financial growth. Over the next 45 minutes, we will be discussing this in more detail, but first, I'd like to look at this year in the context of what I believe underpins ICG's success. It comes as no surprise to those who have been following us for some time that our first priority remains investment performance. As more capital comes into private markets from non-traditional sources and new fund structure, I think this only becomes more important. We are not looking to offer clients beta or to take inconsiderate risk. Thank you, Chris. thank you chris Good morning, everyone. good morning everyone Full year 2026 has been a good year for ICG. full year 2026 has been a good year for icg We reinforced our scaled competitive position, beat by some margin our fundraising targets, established a strategic relationship with Amundi, and more generally built on our track record of strategic and financial growth. we reinforced our scaled competitive position beat by some margin our fundraising targets established a strategic relationship with amundi and more generally built on our track record of strategic and financial growth Over the next 45 minutes, we will be discussing this in more detail, but first, I'd like to look at this year in the context of what I believe underpins ICG's success. over the next 45 minutes we will be discussing this in more detail but first i'd like to look at this year in the context of what i believe underpins icg's success It comes as no surprise to those who have been following us for some time that our first priority remains investment performance. it comes as no surprise to those who have been following us for some time that our first priority remains investment performance As more capital comes into private markets from non-traditional sources and new fund structure, I think this only becomes more important. as more capital comes into private markets from non-traditional sources and new fund structure i think this only becomes more important We are not looking to offer clients beta or to take inconsiderate risk. we are not looking to offer clients beta or to take inconsiderate risk We want to offer them consistent outperformance with a particular focus on cash returns, on realized performance, or in industry lingo, DPI. We're not looking to grow AUM at all costs. We are focused on delivering significant growth that is built on enhancing the track record and reputation of existing strategies and introducing new strategies with solid foundations, all with a view to generate long-term, sustainable, consistent FRE growth. This approach is clearly leading to ICG gaining market share. We have substantial amount of white space to grow into both in our flagships and our scaling strategies. If we continue to execute successfully on the opportunities ahead of us, this will inevitably translate into strong shareholder outcomes in the form of earnings growth and cash generation. In that context, our strategy is clear. We want to offer them consistent outperformance with a particular focus on cash returns, on realized performance, or in industry lingo, DPI. we want to offer them consistent outperformance with a particular focus on cash returns on realized performance or in industry lingo dpi We're not looking to grow AUM at all costs. we're not looking to grow aum at all costs We are focused on delivering significant growth that is built on enhancing the track record and reputation of existing strategies and introducing new strategies with solid foundations, all with a view to generate long-term, sustainable, consistent FRE growth. we are focused on delivering significant growth that is built on enhancing the track record and reputation of existing strategies and introducing new strategies with solid foundations all with a view to generate long-term sustainable consistent fre growth This approach is clearly leading to ICG gaining market share. this approach is clearly leading to icg gaining market share We have substantial amount of white space to grow into both in our flagships and our scaling strategies. we have substantial amount of white space to grow into both in our flagships and our scaling strategies If we continue to execute successfully on the opportunities ahead of us, this will inevitably translate into strong shareholder outcomes in the form of earnings growth and cash generation. if we continue to execute successfully on the opportunities ahead of us this will inevitably translate into strong shareholder outcomes in the form of earnings growth and cash generation In that context, our strategy is clear. in that context our strategy is clear We aim to reinforce our position as a leader in alternative asset management with a reputation for uncompromising focus on investment performance. We are doing that by scaling up established strategies and scaling out into new areas where we see client demand and attractive investment opportunities. This is reinforcing our position with clients, and during full year 2026, we gained 83 new institutional LPs, bringing our total to over 870. In my view, the number of alternative asset managers that have the potential to be globally relevant to clients is shrinking. ICG has emerged as one of the winners in this regard, and I believe we are positioned to continue that trajectory of outperformance. Turning to full year 2026 in more detail. As of 31st of March 2026, we manage $126 billion of assets globally. Fundraising in the year outperformed our expectations. That's $17 billion. We aim to reinforce our position as a leader in alternative asset management with a reputation for uncompromising focus on investment performance. we aim to reinforce our position as a leader in alternative asset management with a reputation for uncompromising focus on investment performance We are doing that by scaling up established strategies and scaling out into new areas where we see client demand and attractive investment opportunities. we are doing that by scaling up established strategies and scaling out into new areas where we see client demand and attractive investment opportunities This is reinforcing our position with clients, and during full year 2026, we gained 83 new institutional LPs, bringing our total to over 870. this is reinforcing our position with clients and during full year 2026 we gained 83 new institutional lps bringing our total to over 870 In my view, the number of alternative asset managers that have the potential to be globally relevant to clients is shrinking. in my view the number of alternative asset managers that have the potential to be globally relevant to clients is shrinking ICG has emerged as one of the winners in this regard, and I believe we are positioned to continue that trajectory of outperformance. icg has emerged as one of the winners in this regard and i believe we are positioned to continue that trajectory of outperformance Turning to full year 2026 in more detail. turning to full year 2026 in more detail As of 31st of March 2026, we manage $126 billion of assets globally. as of 31st of march 2026 we manage $126 billion of assets globally Fundraising in the year outperformed our expectations. fundraising in the year outperformed our expectations That's $17 billion. that's $17 billion Fee Earning AUM grew 11% during the year. We grew flagship and scaling strategies, established an exciting long-term partnership in the wealth market with Amundi, and we continued to hire, notably broadening our insurance and North American coverage within our marketing teams and hiring into our European and Asian corporate investment teams. We are resolutely on the front foot during this cycle. That translated into strong financial performance. We generated GBP 350 million of Fee Related Earnings or FRE. That's up 23% year-on-year. We are also reporting GBP 127 million of performance fee income and GBP 861 million of group operating cash flow, a record level by quite some margin. Fee Earning AUM grew 11% during the year. fee earning aum grew 11% during the year We grew flagship and scaling strategies, established an exciting long-term partnership in the wealth market with Amundi, and we continued to hire, notably broadening our insurance and North American coverage within our marketing teams and hiring into our European and Asian corporate investment teams. we grew flagship and scaling strategies established an exciting long-term partnership in the wealth market with amundi and we continued to hire notably broadening our insurance and north american coverage within our marketing teams and hiring into our european and asian corporate investment teams We are resolutely on the front foot during this cycle. we are resolutely on the front foot during this cycle That translated into strong financial performance. that translated into strong financial performance We generated GBP 350 million of Fee Related Earnings or FRE. we generated gbp 350 million of fee related earnings or fre That's up 23% year-on-year. that's up 23% year-on-year We are also reporting GBP 127 million of performance fee income and GBP 861 million of group operating cash flow, a record level by quite some margin. we are also reporting gbp 127 million of performance fee income and gbp 861 million of group operating cash flow a record level by quite some margin To dig a bit deeper into fundraising, which at $17 billion materially surpassed our expectations, we had our best year ever for real assets, raising $5.5 billion, and for scaling strategies more broadly, which include real assets, where we attracted $8.4 billion. In total, 34% of our capital came from North America. This is an interesting trend that I think is driven by two factors. Firstly, there's clearly a desire among some North American LPs to diversify into Europe. Across many of our strategies, we're natural beneficiaries of this. Secondly, it is testament to the years of effort we've put into our American marketing capabilities and to the increasing recognition of our performance and breadth. Turning to some specifics. To dig a bit deeper into fundraising, which at $17 billion materially surpassed our expectations, we had our best year ever for real assets, raising $5.5 billion, and for scaling strategies more broadly, which include real assets, where we attracted $8.4 billion. to dig a bit deeper into fundraising which at $17 billion materially surpassed our expectations we had our best year ever for real assets raising $5.5 billion and for scaling strategies more broadly which include real assets where we attracted $8.4 billion In total, 34% of our capital came from North America. in total 34% of our capital came from north america This is an interesting trend that I think is driven by two factors. this is an interesting trend that i think is driven by two factors Firstly, there's clearly a desire among some North American LPs to diversify into Europe. firstly there's clearly a desire among some north american lps to diversify into europe Across many of our strategies, we're natural beneficiaries of this. across many of our strategies we're natural beneficiaries of this Secondly, it is testament to the years of effort we've put into our American marketing capabilities and to the increasing recognition of our performance and breadth. secondly it is testament to the years of effort we've put into our american marketing capabilities and to the increasing recognition of our performance and breadth Turning to some specifics. turning to some specifics Europe IX has continued to raise very successfully, both in terms of size and pace, and today stands at over EUR 10 billion. We will likely be oversubscribed and will hold a final close by the summer ahead of the initial fundraising period deadline. In a market environment where many require extensions to fundraising periods, this is an impressive outcome. This is also ICG's first-ever commingled fund to be bigger than EUR 10 billion. It operates in a space that is increasingly attractive. I believe it will be the largest structured capital fund of its kind globally. We are also, as you know, a global leader in GP-led secondaries. I do not know of any other European manager with global leadership in two asset classes. Positive developments for the flagships. Europe IX has continued to raise very successfully, both in terms of size and pace, and today stands at over EUR 10 billion. We will likely be oversubscribed and will hold a final close by the summer ahead of the initial fundraising period deadline. europe ix has continued to raise very successfully both in terms of size and pace and today stands at over eur 10 billion. we will likely be oversubscribed and will hold a final close by the summer ahead of the initial fundraising period deadline In a market environment where many require extensions to fundraising periods, this is an impressive outcome. in a market environment where many require extensions to fundraising periods this is an impressive outcome This is also ICG's first-ever commingled fund to be bigger than EUR 10 billion. this is also icg's first-ever commingled fund to be bigger than eur 10 billion It operates in a space that is increasingly attractive. it operates in a space that is increasingly attractive I believe it will be the largest structured capital fund of its kind globally. i believe it will be the largest structured capital fund of its kind globally We are also, as you know, a global leader in GP-led secondaries. we are also as you know a global leader in gp-led secondaries I do not know of any other European manager with global leadership in two asset classes. i do not know of any other european manager with global leadership in two asset classes Positive developments for the flagships. positive developments for the flagships We also had two scaling strategies that held final closes for their more recent funds, both at or even above their targets and both in real assets. Infrastructure II and Metro II saw big upsizes, high re-up rates, and strong cross-selling from existing ICG clients, as well as good interest from new clients. Successful second vintages are a critical milestone. They are vital to cementing the reputation and position of a strategy. We can look confidently to meaningful growth in both strategies in the coming decade. This is a very promising development. We now have visibility on significant organic growth potential in the broad real asset space, and this could be further enhanced by expanding into adjacencies such as Infrastructure Asia, which we have recently launched, or others, such as possibly infrastructure debt. We also had two scaling strategies that held final closes for their more recent funds, both at or even above their targets and both in real assets. we also had two scaling strategies that held final closes for their more recent funds both at or even above their targets and both in real assets Infrastructure II and Metro II saw big upsizes, high re-up rates, and strong cross-selling from existing ICG clients, as well as good interest from new clients. infrastructure ii and metro ii saw big upsizes high re-up rates and strong cross-selling from existing icg clients as well as good interest from new clients Successful second vintages are a critical milestone. successful second vintages are a critical milestone They are vital to cementing the reputation and position of a strategy. they are vital to cementing the reputation and position of a strategy We can look confidently to meaningful growth in both strategies in the coming decade. we can look confidently to meaningful growth in both strategies in the coming decade This is a very promising development. this is a very promising development We now have visibility on significant organic growth potential in the broad real asset space, and this could be further enhanced by expanding into adjacencies such as Infrastructure Asia, which we have recently launched, or others, such as possibly infrastructure debt. we now have visibility on significant organic growth potential in the broad real asset space and this could be further enhanced by expanding into adjacencies such as infrastructure asia which we have recently launched or others such as possibly infrastructure debt Looking ahead, we have high hopes for LP secondaries, which will be in the market for full year 2027. It is also likely we will launch the sixth vintages of both Strategic Equity and Senior Debt Partners later in full year 2027, although the exact timing of those is not certain. Given our fundraising cycle and which funds happen to be in market at a given point in time, we'd expect fundraising in full year 2027 naturally to be below that in full year 2026. As David will talk about later, the trajectory of our Fee Earning AUM, which drives our management fees and FRE, is only loosely related to in-year fundraising. It's really the fundraising cycle that matters. Looking ahead, we have high hopes for LP secondaries, which will be in the market for full year 2027. looking ahead we have high hopes for lp secondaries which will be in the market for full year 2027 It is also likely we will launch the sixth vintages of both Strategic Equity and Senior Debt Partners later in full year 2027, although the exact timing of those is not certain. it is also likely we will launch the sixth vintages of both strategic equity and senior debt partners later in full year 2027 although the exact timing of those is not certain Given our fundraising cycle and which funds happen to be in market at a given point in time, we'd expect fundraising in full year 2027 naturally to be below that in full year 2026. given our fundraising cycle and which funds happen to be in market at a given point in time we'd expect fundraising in full year 2027 naturally to be below that in full year 2026 As David will talk about later, the trajectory of our Fee Earning AUM, which drives our management fees and FRE, is only loosely related to in-year fundraising. as david will talk about later the trajectory of our fee earning aum which drives our management fees and fre is only loosely related to in-year fundraising It's really the fundraising cycle that matters. it's really the fundraising cycle that matters On this, importantly, this year has anchored our performance for this fundraising cycle, and it is clear that we are well on our way to achieving our full-year fundraising guidance, potentially even a year early. Turning to investment activity, transaction levels remained healthy over the last 12 months. We deployed $14 billion across our direct investment strategies and realized almost $7 billion. The broader point, in my view, is that while there is always an element of lumpiness in these figures, we have remained very disciplined in our deployment across strategies. Our investment committees drive this culture, and during the year, these discussions have been some of the hardest in my memory. On this, importantly, this year has anchored our performance for this fundraising cycle, and it is clear that we are well on our way to achieving our full-year fundraising guidance, potentially even a year early. on this importantly this year has anchored our performance for this fundraising cycle and it is clear that we are well on our way to achieving our full-year fundraising guidance potentially even a year early Turning to investment activity, transaction levels remained healthy over the last 12 months. turning to investment activity transaction levels remained healthy over the last 12 months We deployed $14 billion across our direct investment strategies and realized almost $7 billion. we deployed $14 billion across our direct investment strategies and realized almost $7 billion The broader point, in my view, is that while there is always an element of lumpiness in these figures, we have remained very disciplined in our deployment across strategies. the broader point in my view is that while there is always an element of lumpiness in these figures we have remained very disciplined in our deployment across strategies Our investment committees drive this culture, and during the year, these discussions have been some of the hardest in my memory. our investment committees drive this culture and during the year these discussions have been some of the hardest in my memory We have, for instance, clearly been more cautious than many in direct lending in recent years, although in full year 2026, largely by taking advantage of financing opportunities in our existing portfolio, this strategy has deployed close to $4 billion. In secondaries, both GP and LP-led, the opportunity set has been huge, but we are being incredibly and increasingly selective and in particular cautious around valuations. Given the macro situation, I do not anticipate a meaningful change in the investment environment during full year 2027. With dry powder of $36 billion, we are well-positioned across all asset classes to invest through the cycle and to lean in hard when we see particular opportunities emerge. Ultimately, what clients care about is realized performance and cash return, especially in higher return strategies with no natural liquidity. We have, for instance, clearly been more cautious than many in direct lending in recent years, although in full year 2026, largely by taking advantage of financing opportunities in our existing portfolio, this strategy has deployed close to $4 billion. we have for instance clearly been more cautious than many in direct lending in recent years although in full year 2026 largely by taking advantage of financing opportunities in our existing portfolio this strategy has deployed close to $4 billion In secondaries, both GP and LP- led, the opportunity set has been huge, but we are being incredibly and increasingly selective and in particular cautious around valuations. in secondaries both gp and lp- led the opportunity set has been huge but we are being incredibly and increasingly selective and in particular cautious around valuations Given the macro situation, I do not anticipate a meaningful change in the investment environment during full year 2027. given the macro situation i do not anticipate a meaningful change in the investment environment during full year 2027 With dry powder of $36 billion, we are well-positioned across all asset classes to invest through the cycle and to lean in hard when we see particular opportunities emerge. with dry powder of $36 billion we are well-positioned across all asset classes to invest through the cycle and to lean in hard when we see particular opportunities emerge Ultimately, what clients care about is realized performance and cash return, especially in higher return strategies with no natural liquidity. ultimately what clients care about is realized performance and cash return especially in higher return strategies with no natural liquidity These strategies, which represented three-quarters of our management fees in full year 2026, have an established track record of market-leading DPI. During the year, we distributed $9 billion to clients in these strategies, further anchoring fund returns. On the right-hand side of the slide, we show how DPI for a number of these funds has evolved over time. This metric is clearly becoming more meaningful for clients and is a key differentiator for many of ICG strategies, directly contributing to our continued success in fundraising. Meanwhile, our debt strategies have continued to perform strongly. I'm going to spend a minute on direct lending, our Senior Debt Partners, the flagship strategy, to remind you what we do and, given the noise in the market, what we do not do. 100% of our loans from SDP are senior secured cash flow-based lending. In that way, we're old school. These strategies, which represented three-quarters of our management fees in full year 2026, have an established track record of market-leading DPI. these strategies which represented three-quarters of our management fees in full year 2026 have an established track record of market-leading dpi During the year, we distributed $ 9 billion to clients in these strategies, further anchoring fund returns. during the year we distributed $ 9 billion to clients in these strategies further anchoring fund returns On the right-hand side of the slide, we show how DPI for a number of these funds has evolved over time. on the right-hand side of the slide we show how dpi for a number of these funds has evolved over time This metric is clearly becoming more meaningful for clients and is a key differentiator for many of ICG strategies, directly contributing to our continued success in fundraising. this metric is clearly becoming more meaningful for clients and is a key differentiator for many of icg strategies directly contributing to our continued success in fundraising Meanwhile, our debt strategies have continued to perform strongly. meanwhile our debt strategies have continued to perform strongly I'm going to spend a minute on direct lending, our Senior Debt Partners, the flagship strategy, to remind you what we do and, given the noise in the market, what we do not do. 100% of our loans from SDP are senior secured cash flow-based lending. i'm going to spend a minute on direct lending our senior debt partners the flagship strategy to remind you what we do and given the noise in the market what we do not do 100% of our loans from sdp are senior secured cash flow-based lending In that way, we're old school. in that way we're old school We do not lend to value or to revenue. There is no PIK or sub-debt in SDP. We have minimal software exposure. In the unrealized vintages, SDP 5 and 4, it's approximately 5%. For the last two years, we have not written a single direct loan in the U.S. by choice. From a product perspective, we have no open-ended or so-called semi-liquid structures in direct lending. The consequences here are twofold. Firstly, we are not exposed at all to redemptions. Secondly, we have substantial dry powder to deploy and take advantage of the cycle. This conservative approach has not escaped institutional investors and is contributing to our enhanced reputation. Our CLO business, which is also not exposed to redemptions, has similarly been performing strongly. This year, we issued three new CLOs and are continuing to receive dividends in line with our historical average. We do not lend to value or to revenue. we do not lend to value or to revenue There is no PIK or sub-debt in SDP. there is no pik or sub-debt in sdp We have minimal software exposure. we have minimal software exposure In the unrealized vintages, SDP 5 and 4, it's approximately 5%. in the unrealized vintages sdp 5 and 4 it's approximately 5% For the last two years, we have not written a single direct loan in the U.S. by choice. for the last two years we have not written a single direct loan in the u.s by choice From a product perspective, we have no open-ended or so-called semi-liquid structures in direct lending. from a product perspective we have no open-ended or so-called semi-liquid structures in direct lending The consequences here are twofold. the consequences here are twofold Firstly, we are not exposed at all to redemptions. firstly we are not exposed at all to redemptions Secondly, we have substantial dry powder to deploy and take advantage of the cycle. secondly we have substantial dry powder to deploy and take advantage of the cycle This conservative approach has not escaped institutional investors and is contributing to our enhanced reputation. this conservative approach has not escaped institutional investors and is contributing to our enhanced reputation Our CLO business, which is also not exposed to redemptions, has similarly been performing strongly. our clo business which is also not exposed to redemptions, has similarly been performing strongly This year, we issued three new CLOs and are continuing to receive dividends in line with our historical average. this year we issued three new clos and are continuing to receive dividends in line with our historical average In all, when I look at across the portfolios and fund performance, whether in higher return strategies or debt strategies, I feel we are very well positioned to continue to deliver for our clients and to strengthen our market position and standing with LPs. That delivery and our clients' confidence in our future potential has enabled us to gain market share in recent years across both our flagship and scaling strategies. This slide is indicative only as market-wide data is never perfect or entirely comparable. Based on publicly available data, all of these strategies have grown faster than the markets in which they operate. Let me reiterate, and it goes back to my first slide, I view this as an output of our investment performance. Top-quality returns to clients lead to growth, and I expect that to continue. In all, when I look at across the portfolios and fund performance, whether in higher return strategies or debt strategies, I feel we are very well positioned to continue to deliver for our clients and to strengthen our market position and standing with LPs. in all when i look at across the portfolios and fund performance whether in higher return strategies or debt strategies i feel we are very well positioned to continue to deliver for our clients and to strengthen our market position and standing with lps That delivery and our clients' confidence in our future potential has enabled us to gain market share in recent years across both our flagship and scaling strategies. that delivery and our clients' confidence in our future potential has enabled us to gain market share in recent years across both our flagship and scaling strategies This slide is indicative only as market-wide data is never perfect or entirely comparable. this slide is indicative only as market-wide data is never perfect or entirely comparable Based on publicly available data, all of these strategies have grown faster than the markets in which they operate. based on publicly available data all of these strategies have grown faster than the markets in which they operate Let me reiterate, and it goes back to my first slide, I view this as an output of our investment performance. let me reiterate and it goes back to my first slide i view this as an output of our investment performance Top-quality returns to clients lead to growth, and I expect that to continue. top-quality returns to clients lead to growth and i expect that to continue Institutional investors with whom I exchange all the time remain committed to private markets and are looking to grow allocations with the right managers. From my perspective, they are increasingly focused on alignment of interest with GPs. They are increasingly wary of managers pursuing an AUM-gathering strategy. They do not want their deployment cycle to be governed by the ebbs and flows of wealth capital in evergreen vehicles, or to have to worry about potential conflicts of interest in allocations. In this respect, ICG stands in a differentiated position compared to many of our global alternative asset manager peers. Looking ahead, the opportunity set for us is huge. Based on our existing client base today, 3/4 are invested in only one strategy and fewer than 20% are invested in two strategies. Institutional investors with whom I exchange all the time remain committed to private markets and are looking to grow allocations with the right managers. institutional investors with whom i exchange all the time remain committed to private markets and are looking to grow allocations with the right managers From my perspective, they are increasingly focused on alignment of interest with GPs. from my perspective they are increasingly focused on alignment of interest with gps They are increasingly wary of managers pursuing an AUM-gathering strategy. they are increasingly wary of managers pursuing an aum-gathering strategy They do not want their deployment cycle to be governed by the ebbs and flows of wealth capital in evergreen vehicles, or to have to worry about potential conflicts of interest in allocations. they do not want their deployment cycle to be governed by the ebbs and flows of wealth capital in evergreen vehicles or to have to worry about potential conflicts of interest in allocations In this respect, ICG stands in a differentiated position compared to many of our global alternative asset manager peers. in this respect icg stands in a differentiated position compared to many of our global alternative asset manager peers Looking ahead, the opportunity set for us is huge. looking ahead the opportunity set for us is huge Based on our existing client base today, 3/4 are invested in only one strategy and fewer than 20% are invested in two strategies. based on our existing client base today 3/4 are invested in only one strategy and fewer than 20% are invested in two strategies As demonstrated by the final close of Infra II and Metro II in real estate, cross-selling is becoming an increasingly meaningful part of our fundraising, along with our continued ability to attract new clients. I'm confident that today we have the investment strategies, scale, and client franchise to be beneficiary of institutions seeking to do more with fewer managers. To conclude, I'm very proud of the results we are reporting today. I view them as another checkpoint in the journey of profitable, scalable growth that ICG has been on for over a decade, and I see huge opportunity ahead. Importantly, our strategy is clear, aligned to what our clients want and how the market is evolving, and we have financial resources and people to execute on it. With that, I'll pass over to David. As demonstrated by the final close of Infra II and Metro II in real estate, cross-selling is becoming an increasingly meaningful part of our fundraising, along with our continued ability to attract new clients. as demonstrated by the final close of infra ii and metro ii in real estate cross-selling is becoming an increasingly meaningful part of our fundraising along with our continued ability to attract new clients I'm confident that today we have the investment strategies, scale, and client franchise to be beneficiary of institutions seeking to do more with fewer managers. i'm confident that today we have the investment strategies scale and client franchise to be beneficiary of institutions seeking to do more with fewer managers To conclude, I'm very proud of the results we are reporting today. to conclude i'm very proud of the results we are reporting today I view them as another checkpoint in the journey of profitable, scalable growth that ICG has been on for over a decade, and I see huge opportunity ahead. i view them as another checkpoint in the journey of profitable scalable growth that icg has been on for over a decade and i see huge opportunity ahead Importantly, our strategy is clear, aligned to what our clients want and how the market is evolving, and we have financial resources and people to execute on it. importantly our strategy is clear aligned to what our clients want and how the market is evolving and we have financial resources and people to execute on it With that, I'll pass over to David. with that i'll pass over to david

Speaker 3: Thank you, Benoît. I'm going to talk about our evolved financial presentation and then dig into our FY 2026 financial performance in more detail. Before that, I want to reinforce the link between the strategy that Benoît has just outlined and the financial results we're reporting. We have a broad and scaled range of investment strategies across multiple asset classes, which has led over the last five years to our Fee Earning AUM doubling to $87 billion at March 2026, all organically. Due to our focus on growing higher return, higher fee strategies, we are seeing a very positive mix effect in our management fee rate, which has expanded by 13 basis points over the last five years to stand at 98 basis points today. The link to our financial performance is clear. Thank you, Benoît. thank you benoît I'm going to talk about our evolved financial presentation and then dig into our FY 2026 financial performance in more detail. i'm going to talk about our evolved financial presentation and then dig into our fy 2026 financial performance in more detail Before that, I want to reinforce the link between the strategy that Benoît has just outlined and the financial results we're reporting. before that i want to reinforce the link between the strategy that benoît has just outlined and the financial results we're reporting We have a broad and scaled range of investment strategies across multiple asset classes, which has led over the last five years to our Fee Earning AUM doubling to $87 billion at March 2026, all organically. we have a broad and scaled range of investment strategies across multiple asset classes which has led over the last five years to our fee earning aum doubling to $87 billion at march 2026 all organically Due to our focus on growing higher return, higher fee strategies, we are seeing a very positive mix effect in our management fee rate, which has expanded by 13 basis points over the last five years to stand at 98 basis points today. due to our focus on growing higher return higher fee strategies we are seeing a very positive mix effect in our management fee rate which has expanded by 13 basis points over the last five years to stand at 98 basis points today The link to our financial performance is clear. the link to our financial performance is clear A diversified range of scaled and scalable strategies that meet our clients' needs, leading to growing Fee Earning AUM at attractive management fee rates. This resulted in management fee growth above that of Fee Earning AUM. As our strategies scale up through multiple vintages, we see significant operating leverage. That link between our strategy and our financial performance has driven the evolution in our financial presentation that you see today, which focuses on three distinct related attributes of value. The first is Fee Related Earnings or FRE, defined as the profit generated from the management fees, less group cash operating expenses. This metric clearly shows the trajectory I was describing on the previous page of growing Fee Earning AUM, management fees, and operating leverage. Shareholders also receive performance fee income, which in our financials has no cost associated with it. A diversified range of scaled and scalable strategies that meet our clients' needs, leading to growing Fee Earning AUM at attractive management fee rates. a diversified range of scaled and scalable strategies that meet our clients' needs leading to growing fee earning aum at attractive management fee rates This resulted in management fee growth above that of Fee Earning AUM. this resulted in management fee growth above that of fee earning aum As our strategies scale up through multiple vintages, we see significant operating leverage. as our strategies scale up through multiple vintages we see significant operating leverage That link between our strategy and our financial performance has driven the evolution in our financial presentation that you see today, which focuses on three distinct related attributes of value. that link between our strategy and our financial performance has driven the evolution in our financial presentation that you see today which focuses on three distinct related attributes of value The first is Fee Related Earnings or FRE, defined as the profit generated from the management fees, less group cash operating expenses. the first is fee related earnings or fre defined as the profit generated from the management fees less group cash operating expenses This metric clearly shows the trajectory I was describing on the previous page of growing Fee Earning AUM, management fees, and operating leverage. Shareholders also receive performance fee income, which in our financials has no cost associated with it. this metric clearly shows the trajectory i was describing on the previous page of growing fee earning aum management fees and operating leverage. shareholders also receive performance fee income which in our financials has no cost associated with it Finally, we have the balance sheet portfolio, which co-invests alongside our clients in our funds and seeds new strategies and products. Alongside these three metrics, we will also focus on group operating cash flow and net debt. Importantly, from a shareholder perspective, we are also reporting these on a per share basis. Put together, this financial presentation aligns with our business and the drivers of shareholder value. It's clear and simple, and it's comparable to other global alternative asset managers. In the coming pages, I will focus on each of these five components. Feedback on our FRE disclosure back in November was very positive, and of course, we will welcome any more thoughts on this evolution. As a result of these changes, we are updating our medium-term financial guidance. Finally, we have the balance sheet portfolio, which co-invests alongside our clients in our funds and seeds new strategies and products. finally we have the balance sheet portfolio which co-invests alongside our clients in our funds and seeds new strategies and products Alongside these three metrics, we will also focus on group operating cash flow and net debt. alongside these three metrics we will also focus on group operating cash flow and net debt Importantly, from a shareholder perspective, we are also reporting these on a per share basis. importantly from a shareholder perspective we are also reporting these on a per share basis Put together, this financial presentation aligns with our business and the drivers of shareholder value. put together this financial presentation aligns with our business and the drivers of shareholder value It's clear and simple, and it's comparable to other global alternative asset managers. it's clear and simple and it's comparable to other global alternative asset managers In the coming pages, I will focus on each of these five components. in the coming pages i will focus on each of these five components Feedback on our FRE disclosure back in November was very positive, and of course, we will welcome any more thoughts on this evolution. feedback on our fre disclosure back in november was very positive and of course we will welcome any more thoughts on this evolution As a result of these changes, we are updating our medium-term financial guidance. as a result of these changes we are updating our medium-term financial guidance We are replacing guidance on FMC margin with guidance that over the medium term, we expect FRE margin, excluding catch-up fees, to expand. Over the last five years, FRE margin has grown by 14 percentage points. As Benoît said, we're two years into our fundraising guidance and have raised $40 billion of the $55 billion, so well on our way to meeting or exceeding this target. We continue to expect performance fee income over the medium term to represent between 10% and 20% of our total fee income. Moving to full year 2026 specifically, and starting with a snapshot of the financial performance, we are reporting FRE of GBP 350 million, up 23% year-on-year. We are replacing guidance on FMC margin with guidance that over the medium term, we expect FRE margin, excluding catch-up fees, to expand. we are replacing guidance on fmc margin with guidance that over the medium term we expect fre margin excluding catch-up fees to expand Over the last five years, FRE margin has grown by 14 percentage points. over the last five years fre margin has grown by 14 percentage points As Benoît said, we're two years into our fundraising guidance and have raised $40 billion of the $55 billion, so well on our way to meeting or exceeding this target. as benoît said we're two years into our fundraising guidance and have raised $40 billion of the $55 billion so well on our way to meeting or exceeding this target We continue to expect performance fee income over the medium term to represent between 10% and 20% of our total fee income. we continue to expect performance fee income over the medium term to represent between 10% and 20% of our total fee income Moving to full year 2026 specifically, and starting with a snapshot of the financial performance, we are reporting FRE of GBP 350 million, up 23% year-on-year. moving to full year 2026 specifically and starting with a snapshot of the financial performance we are reporting fre of gbp 350 million up 23% year-on-year Performance fees were GBP 127 million, including a GBP 72 million transitional gain due to the change in recognition methodology announced in October 2025. Our balance sheet portfolio stood at GBP 2.6 billion. You can see these on a per share basis on the right-hand side of the page. At a group level, our operating cash flow was very high at GBP 861 million. This was a key driver of reducing our net debt to GBP 113 million, down from GBP 629 million in March 2025, and our net debt to FRE now stands at 0.3x. Before moving to each of these metrics in turn, I'll start with Fee Earning AUM. This has grown 11% over the last 12 months, and today stands at $87 billion. Performance fees were GBP 127 million, including a GBP 72 million transitional gain due to the change in recognition methodology announced in October 2025. performance fees were gbp 127 million including a gbp 72 million transitional gain due to the change in recognition methodology announced in october 2025 Our balance sheet portfolio stood at GBP 2.6 billion. our balance sheet portfolio stood at gbp 2.6 billion You can see these on a per share basis on the right-hand side of the page. you can see these on a per share basis on the right-hand side of the page At a group level, our operating cash flow was very high at GBP 861 million. at a group level our operating cash flow was very high at gbp 861 million This was a key driver of reducing our net debt to GBP 113 million, down from GBP 629 million in March 2025, and our net debt to FRE now stands at 0.3 x. this was a key driver of reducing our net debt to gbp 113 million down from gbp 629 million in march 2025 and our net debt to fre now stands at 0.3 x Before moving to each of these metrics in turn, I'll start with Fee Earning AUM. before moving to each of these metrics in turn i'll start with fee earning aum This has grown 11% over the last 12 months, and today stands at $87 billion. this has grown 11% over the last 12 months and today stands at $87 billion We also have $19 billion of AUM not yet earning fees, which would generate approximately GBP 120 million in annual management fees if deployed. As Benoît said earlier, in-year fundraising only has a loose link to the in-year trajectory of Fee Earning AUM. This is clear if you look at this over the last decade. Fee Earning AUM has grown every year, including through a series of macro shocks, which public market valuations and private market transaction activity saw periods of significant volatility. Over the last decade, our Fee Earning AUM has grown at an annualized rate of 17%, and over the last five years at an annualized rate of 14%. The effect of Fee Earning AUM growth and expanding fee rates is visible in our management fees, which for FY 2026 were GBP 685 million, up 13% year-over-year in absolute terms, or 17% excluding catch-up fees. We also have $19 billion of AUM not yet earning fees, which would generate approximately GBP 120 million in annual management fees if deployed. we also have $19 billion of aum not yet earning fees which would generate approximately gbp 120 million in annual management fees if deployed As Benoît said earlier, in-year fundraising only has a loose link to the in-year trajectory of Fee Earning AUM. as benoît said earlier in-year fundraising only has a loose link to the in-year trajectory of fee earning aum This is clear if you look at this over the last decade. this is clear if you look at this over the last decade Fee Earning AUM has grown every year, including through a series of macro shocks, which public market valuations and private market transaction activity saw periods of significant volatility. fee earning aum has grown every year including through a series of macro shocks which public market valuations and private market transaction activity saw periods of significant volatility Over the last decade, our Fee Earning AUM has grown at an annualized rate of 17%, and over the last five years at an annualized rate of 14%. over the last decade our fee earning aum has grown at an annualized rate of 17% and over the last five years at an annualized rate of 14% The effect of Fee Earning AUM growth and expanding fee rates is visible in our management fees, which for FY 2026 were GBP 685 million, up 13% year-over-year in absolute terms, or 17% excluding catch-up fees. the effect of fee earning aum growth and expanding fee rates is visible in our management fees which for fy 2026 were gbp 685 million up 13% year-over-year in absolute terms or 17% excluding catch-up fees Over the last five years, management fees have grown at an annualized rate of 20%. Over that period, we've also seen meaningful shift in the composition of management fees by asset class. As shown on the chart on the left, credit and private debt have grown more modestly over this period. While structured capital, private equity secondaries, and real assets have delivered significant expansion, and combined, our higher return strategies account for over 75% of our management fees. Looked at another way, the three scaling strategies that Benoît mentioned earlier, LP secondaries, real estate, and infrastructure, have become increasingly meaningful. Together, the three of them now account for over 20% of group management fees, compared to around 10% five years ago. This is an important development. Over the last five years, management fees have grown at an annualized rate of 20%. over the last five years management fees have grown at an annualized rate of 20% Over that period, we've also seen meaningful shift in the composition of management fees by asset class. over that period we've also seen meaningful shift in the composition of management fees by asset class As shown on the chart on the left, credit and private debt have grown more modestly over this period. as shown on the chart on the left credit and private debt have grown more modestly over this period While structured capital, private equity secondaries, and real assets have delivered significant expansion, and combined, our higher return strategies account for over 75% of our management fees. while structured capital private equity secondaries and real assets have delivered significant expansion and combined our higher return strategies account for over 75% of our management fees Looked at another way, the three scaling strategies that Benoît mentioned earlier, LP secondaries, real estate, and infrastructure, have become increasingly meaningful. looked at another way the three scaling strategies that benoît mentioned earlier lp secondaries real estate and infrastructure have become increasingly meaningful Together, the three of them now account for over 20% of group management fees, compared to around 10% five years ago. together the three of them now account for over 20% of group management fees compared to around 10% five years ago This is an important development. this is an important development It reflects the success of building these capabilities organically, is evidence of the increasing diversification at scale, and gives clear visibility on the embedded growth potential within ICG today. Turning to FRE, which for FY 2026 was GBP 350 million or GBP 1.20 per share. This is up 23% in the year and 30% annualized over the last five years, driven by high growth in management fees alongside strong cost control, with FRE operating expenses up 5% year-on-year. Our FRE margin, excluding catch-up fees over the last five years, has grown from 33% in FY 2021 to 47% today. As I said earlier, over the medium term, we expect to see continued expansion in that FRE margin. It reflects the success of building these capabilities organically, is evidence of the increasing diversification at scale, and gives clear visibility on the embedded growth potential within ICG today. it reflects the success of building these capabilities organically is evidence of the increasing diversification at scale and gives clear visibility on the embedded growth potential within icg today Turning to FRE, which for FY 2026 was GBP 350 million or GBP 1.20 per share. turning to fre which for fy 2026 was gbp 350 million or gbp 1.20 per share This is up 23% in the year and 30% annualized over the last five years, driven by high growth in management fees alongside strong cost control, with FRE operating expenses up 5% year-on-year. this is up 23% in the year and 30% annualized over the last five years driven by high growth in management fees alongside strong cost control with fre operating expenses up 5% year-on-year Our FRE margin, excluding catch-up fees over the last five years, has grown from 33% in FY 2021 to 47% today. our fre margin excluding catch-up fees over the last five years has grown from 33% in fy 2021 to 47% today As I said earlier, over the medium term, we expect to see continued expansion in that FRE margin. as i said earlier over the medium term we expect to see continued expansion in that fre margin Performance fee income was GBP 127 million this year, including a GBP 72 million transitional gain due to the change in recognition approach announced in October 2025. The majority of the transition gain, GBP 49 million, was driven by the initial recognition in structured capital and secondary strategies, including Europe VIII, SE IV, and Mid-Market I. Performance fee income was GBP 127 million this year, including a GBP 72 million transitional gain due to the change in recognition approach announced in October 2025. performance fee income was gbp 127 million this year including a gbp 72 million transitional gain due to the change in recognition approach announced in october 2025 The majority of the transition gain, GBP 49 million, was driven by the initial recognition in structured capital and secondary strategies, including Europe VIII, SE IV, and Mid-Market I. the majority of the transition gain gbp 49 million was driven by the initial recognition in structured capital and secondary strategies including europe viii, se iv and mid-market i Realized performance fees, that is cash received, came in at GBP 96 million in the year due to some large realizations for funds that are in carry. Looking ahead, as we continue to grow high return strategies, performance fees are likely to become a more visible and significant contributor to our top line. Moving to the balance sheet portfolio, which had an asset value of GBP 2.6 billion as of March. Our balance sheet exists to support the growth in our fee and in AUM, which it does through two routes. Realized performance fees, that is cash received, came in at GBP 96 million in the year due to some large realizations for funds that are in carry. realized performance fees that is cash received came in at gbp 96 million in the year due to some large realizations for funds that are in carry Looking ahead, as we continue to grow high return strategies, performance fees are likely to become a more visible and significant contributor to our top line. looking ahead as we continue to grow high return strategies performance fees are likely to become a more visible and significant contributor to our top line Moving to the balance sheet portfolio, which had an asset value of GBP 2.6 billion as of March. moving to the balance sheet portfolio which had an asset value of gbp 2.6 billion as of march Our balance sheet exists to support the growth in our fee and in AUM, which it does through two routes. our balance sheet exists to support the growth in our fee and in aum which it does through two routes Firstly, co-investing alongside our funds, which accounts for about 90% of the fair value, and secondly, by seeding new strategies and new products. As a result, the balance sheet performance mirrors that of the funds in which it invests. From a P&L perspective, over the last five years, it has generated an average annual return of 10%, including a 5% return for this financial year. During the year, all asset classes except debt generated between 5% and 8% returns, while debt returned GBP -7 million, which is -2%. It was driven by a number of mark-to-market movements within our CLO portfolio. This year's outcome, in the context of a challenging macro backdrop, underlines the diversification and the resilience of the balance sheet portfolio, which we expect to generate low double-digit percentage annualized returns over the long term. Firstly, co-investing alongside our funds, which accounts for about 90% of the fair value, and secondly, by seeding new strategies and new products. firstly co-investing alongside our funds which accounts for about 90% of the fair value and secondly by seeding new strategies and new products As a result, the balance sheet performance mirrors that of the funds in which it invests. as a result the balance sheet performance mirrors that of the funds in which it invests From a P&L perspective, over the last five years, it has generated an average annual return of 10%, including a 5% return for this financial year. from a p&l perspective over the last five years it has generated an average annual return of 10% including a 5% return for this financial year During the year, all asset classes except debt generated between 5% and 8% returns, while debt returned GBP -7 million, which is -2%. during the year all asset classes except debt generated between 5% and 8% returns while debt returned gbp -7 million which is -2% It was driven by a number of mark-to- market movements within our CLO portfolio. it was driven by a number of mark-to- market movements within our clo portfolio This year's outcome, in the context of a challenging macro backdrop, underlines the diversification and the resilience of the balance sheet portfolio, which we expect to generate low double-digit percentage annualized returns over the long term. this year's outcome in the context of a challenging macro backdrop underlines the diversification and the resilience of the balance sheet portfolio which we expect to generate low double-digit percentage annualized returns over the long term From a cash perspective, not only does the balance sheet benefit from the cash generation of our funds, we have also been deliberately reducing the absolute commitment from ICG plc as strategies become more established. We have a proven track record of doing this, which you can see clearly on the right-hand side. As a result, organically growing strategies is cash intensive in the early years and progressively asset light as we move through the vintages. Doing this successfully is highly accretive to FRE per share, and the co-investment portfolio has become highly cash generative as vintages have progressed. This dynamic is now quite visible with the co-investment portfolio generating an average net cash flow yield over the last five years of 10%. From a cash perspective, not only does the balance sheet benefit from the cash generation of our funds, we have also been deliberately reducing the absolute commitment from ICG plc as strategies become more established. from a cash perspective not only does the balance sheet benefit from the cash generation of our funds we have also been deliberately reducing the absolute commitment from icg plc as strategies become more established We have a proven track record of doing this, which you can see clearly on the right-hand side. we have a proven track record of doing this which you can see clearly on the right-hand side As a result, organically growing strategies is cash intensive in the early years and progressively asset light as we move through the vintages. as a result organically growing strategies is cash intensive in the early years and progressively asset light as we move through the vintages Doing this successfully is highly accretive to FRE per share, and the co-investment portfolio has become highly cash generative as vintages have progressed. doing this successfully is highly accretive to fre per share and the co-investment portfolio has become highly cash generative as vintages have progressed This dynamic is now quite visible with the co-investment portfolio generating an average net cash flow yield over the last five years of 10%. this dynamic is now quite visible with the co-investment portfolio generating an average net cash flow yield over the last five years of 10% Indeed, as we believe we're in the early stages of a multi-year cycle in which the balance sheet could generate significant cash from our existing product set as older co-investments are realized and funds currently being invested have lower absolute commitments from the firm. Of course, there'll be an element of lumpiness to this, but the structural trend is clear. Cash received from FRE performance fees and the balance sheet portfolio have each grown year-over-year in full year 2026. This has led to a very strong year for the group operating cash flow, which totaled GBP 861 million compared to GBP 533 million last year. As a result of this profitable cash generative growth, our financial position has never been stronger. We ended the period with total available liquidity of GBP 1.5 billion, a net debt of GBP 113 million. Indeed, as we believe we're in the early stages of a multi-year cycle in which the balance sheet could generate significant cash from our existing product set as older co-investments are realized and funds currently being invested have lower absolute commitments from the firm. indeed as we believe we're in the early stages of a multi-year cycle in which the balance sheet could generate significant cash from our existing product set as older co-investments are realized and funds currently being invested have lower absolute commitments from the firm Of course, there'll be an element of lumpiness to this, but the structural trend is clear. of course there'll be an element of lumpiness to this but the structural trend is clear Cash received from FRE performance fees and the balance sheet portfolio have each grown year-over-year in full year 2026. cash received from fre performance fees and the balance sheet portfolio have each grown year-over-year in full year 2026 This has led to a very strong year for the group operating cash flow, which totaled GBP 861 million compared to GBP 533 million last year. this has led to a very strong year for the group operating cash flow which totaled gbp 861 million compared to gbp 533 million last year As a result of this profitable cash generative growth, our financial position has never been stronger. as a result of this profitable cash generative growth our financial position has never been stronger We ended the period with total available liquidity of GBP 1.5 billion, a net debt of GBP 113 million. we ended the period with total available liquidity of gbp 1.5 billion a net debt of gbp 113 million We have a very robust capital structure and a disciplined approach to managing both our debt and our equity base. Drawing this all together, we have strategic and financial flexibility like never before to maximize long-term shareholder value, and we have a clear capital allocation priority to execute on that. Our progressive dividend policy continues, and our ordinary dividend of GBP 0.87 per share for full year 2026 marks the 16th consecutive year of growth. Once we reach a position of zero net debt, we will continue to allocate thoughtfully. In this regard, all options are on the table. Optimizing co-investments alongside our existing products and strategies, seeding new products and strategies, making strategic investments, whether in M&A or partnerships more broadly, and of course, returning capital to shareholders through dividends or buybacks. We have a very robust capital structure and a disciplined approach to managing both our debt and our equity base. we have a very robust capital structure and a disciplined approach to managing both our debt and our equity base Drawing this all together, we have strategic and financial flexibility like never before to maximize long-term shareholder value, and we have a clear capital allocation priority to execute on that. drawing this all together we have strategic and financial flexibility like never before to maximize long-term shareholder value and we have a clear capital allocation priority to execute on that Our progressive dividend policy continues, and our ordinary dividend of GBP 0.87 per share for full year 2026 marks the 16th consecutive year of growth. our progressive dividend policy continues and our ordinary dividend of gbp 0.87 per share for full year 2026 marks the 16th consecutive year of growth Once we reach a position of zero net debt, we will continue to allocate thoughtfully. once we reach a position of zero net debt we will continue to allocate thoughtfully In this regard, all options are on the table. in this regard all options are on the table Optimizing co-investments alongside our existing products and strategies, seeding new products and strategies, making strategic investments, whether in M&A or partnerships more broadly, and of course, returning capital to shareholders through dividends or buybacks. optimizing co-investments alongside our existing products and strategies seeding new products and strategies making strategic investments whether in m&a or partnerships more broadly and of course returning capital to shareholders through dividends or buybacks As a management team, we view these options in the round to assess what will generate the best risk-adjusted long-term growth in FRE per share. Taken together, these results give us confidence in the trajectory of the business and in the opportunities ahead. With that, I'll pass back to Chris. As a management team, we view these options in the round to assess what will generate the best risk-adjusted long-term growth in FRE per share. as a management team we view these options in the round to assess what will generate the best risk-adjusted long-term growth in fre per share Taken together, these results give us confidence in the trajectory of the business and in the opportunities ahead. taken together these results give us confidence in the trajectory of the business and in the opportunities ahead With that, I'll pass back to Chris. with that i'll pass back to chris

Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thank you, David. To keep things moving, we would ask that you please try to limit your questions to a maximum of two each. Analysts can ask verbal questions through the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen or star nine if dialed in by phone. Alternatively, people can submit questions through the Spark Live platform. We already have a number in, and I will start with Oliver Carruthers at Goldman Sachs. Oliver, your line should be open, please. Thank you very much. thank you very much Thank you, David. thank you david To keep things moving, we would ask that you please try to limit your questions to a maximum of two each. to keep things moving we would ask that you please try to limit your questions to a maximum of two each Analysts can ask verbal questions through the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen or star nine if dialed in by phone. analysts can ask verbal questions through the raise hand function at the bottom of your zoom screen or star nine if dialed in by phone Alternatively, people can submit questions through the Spark Live platform. alternatively people can submit questions through the spark live platform We already have a number in, and I will start with Oliver Carruthers at Goldman Sachs. we already have a number in and i will start with oliver carruthers at goldman sachs Oliver, your line should be open, please. oliver your line should be open please

Speaker 9: Morning, team. Thanks very much for the presentation. I just have one question, and it follows on from that slide 22, David, that you showed at the end. I guess, if we think of part two here, that was hitting net debt of zero, which looks like you might be doing this year. I'm interested a little bit in how you think this capital deployment priority might play out in practice. I guess I'm thinking of this also in the context of the new FRE performance fees and balance sheet disclosure that you give and the new guidance that gives alignment on this metrics on an FRE per share basis. As you say, that aligns you to the global peer set. I think it also highlights Morning, team. morning team Thanks very much for the presentation. thanks very much for the presentation I just have one question, and it follows on from that slide 22, David, that you showed at the end. i just have one question and it follows on from that slide 22 david that you showed at the end I guess, if we think of part two here, that was hitting net debt of zero, which looks like you might be doing this year. i guess if we think of part two here that was hitting net debt of zero which looks like you might be doing this year I'm interested a little bit in how you think this capital deployment priority might play out in practice. i'm interested a little bit in how you think this capital deployment priority might play out in practice I guess I'm thinking of this also in the context of the new FRE performance fees and balance sheet disclosure that you give and the new guidance that gives alignment on this metrics on an FRE per share basis. i guess i'm thinking of this also in the context of the new fre performance fees and balance sheet disclosure that you give and the new guidance that gives alignment on this metrics on an fre per share basis As you say, that aligns you to the global peer set. as you say that aligns you to the global peer set I think it also highlights i think it also highlights How you traded a discount to this global peer set, and it sounds like you're very focused on closing that discount. As you say, the balance sheet is at the beginning of this early year cycle of elevated cash flow given maturing investments and the lower commitment needs. In the context of that, I guess, four-part capital deployment priority, I'm really interested in how you think about share buybacks in this context. Thank you. How you traded a discount to this global peer set, and it sounds like you're very focused on closing that discount. how you traded a discount to this global peer set and it sounds like you're very focused on closing that discount As you say, the balance sheet is at the beginning of this early year cycle of elevated cash flow given maturing investments and the lower commitment needs. as you say the balance sheet is at the beginning of this early year cycle of elevated cash flow given maturing investments and the lower commitment needs In the context of that, I guess, four-part capital deployment priority, I'm really interested in how you think about share buybacks in this context. in the context of that i guess four-part capital deployment priority i'm really interested in how you think about share buybacks in this context Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Yeah. Morning, Ollie. Good question. I think a few things I'd say. Firstly, just picking up on one of the comments you made or the implications you made, I think we're very focused on growing the business, investment performance. As we said in our presentation, that will drive growth and positive outcomes for shareholders over the long term. That's what we are in control of, that's what we want to drive, and that's our focus, our investment performance first. The other things will follow. We think FRE per share and FRE in general, therefore gives you a much clearer basis of comparison to global peer set. That was one of the drivers of why we think this is an important way to exhibit the growth that we've already achieved and the growth potential to come. Yeah. yeah Morning, Ollie. morning ollie Good question. good question I think a few things I'd say. i think a few things i'd say Firstly, just picking up on one of the comments you made or the implications you made, I think we're very focused on growing the business, investment performance. firstly just picking up on one of the comments you made or the implications you made i think we're very focused on growing the business investment performance As we said in our presentation, that will drive growth and positive outcomes for shareholders over the long term. as we said in our presentation that will drive growth and positive outcomes for shareholders over the long term That's what we are in control of, that's what we want to drive, and that's our focus, our investment performance first. that's what we are in control of that's what we want to drive and that's our focus our investment performance first The other things will follow. the other things will follow We think FRE per share and FRE in general, therefore gives you a much clearer basis of comparison to global peer set. we think fre per share and fre in general therefore gives you a much clearer basis of comparison to global peer set That was one of the drivers of why we think this is an important way to exhibit the growth that we've already achieved and the growth potential to come. that was one of the drivers of why we think this is an important way to exhibit the growth that we've already achieved and the growth potential to come On capital allocation priorities, I deliberately made the comment that we're very committed to the progressive dividend and reaching zero net debt. Those are our near-term priorities. We're clearly not there yet in terms of reaching a net cash position. Given the operating environment, actually having strategic optionality and extra liquidity is not a bad thing. We don't feel under undue hurry around that. You're right. If you play this forward under reasonable assumptions, that'll be something that plays out over the next year or two as a practical matter. On capital allocation priorities, I deliberately made the comment that we're very committed to the progressive dividend and reaching zero net debt. on capital allocation priorities i deliberately made the comment that we're very committed to the progressive dividend and reaching zero net debt Those are our near-term priorities. those are our near-term priorities We're clearly not there yet in terms of reaching a net cash position. we're clearly not there yet in terms of reaching a net cash position Given the operating environment, actually having strategic optionality and extra liquidity is not a bad thing. given the operating environment actually having strategic optionality and extra liquidity is not a bad thing We don't feel under undue hurry around that. we don't feel under undue hurry around that You're right. you're right If you play this forward under reasonable assumptions, that'll be something that plays out over the next year or two as a practical matter. if you play this forward under reasonable assumptions that'll be something that plays out over the next year or two as a practical matter

Speaker 1: Yeah. If I can add. I agree, David. We'll see. Time will tell. As David said, that's giving us optionality. It may be that we find ourselves in a very strong financial position exactly at the right point in the cycle. As you're aware, not everyone is showing the sort of performance that we are showing today. There is a lot of pain in the broader alternative asset management industry. This could create some opportunities for us. Historically, one, we've been cautious. Two, it's been made difficult by, as you pointed out, the fact that we've always traded at a meaningful discount to peers. I could see situations where we could take advantage of the environment and perhaps accelerate our growth in some specific areas. That's certainly something that we're keeping a very close eye on. Yeah. yeah If I can add. if i can add I agree, David. i agree david We'll see. we'll see Time will tell. time will tell As David said, that's giving us optionality. as david said that's giving us optionality It may be that we find ourselves in a very strong financial position exactly at the right point in the cycle. it may be that we find ourselves in a very strong financial position exactly at the right point in the cycle As you're aware, not everyone is showing the sort of performance that we are showing today. as you're aware not everyone is showing the sort of performance that we are showing today There is a lot of pain in the broader alternative asset management industry. there is a lot of pain in the broader alternative asset management industry This could create some opportunities for us. this could create some opportunities for us Historically, one, we've been cautious. historically one we've been cautious Two, it's been made difficult by, as you pointed out, the fact that we've always traded at a meaningful discount to peers. two it's been made difficult by as you pointed out the fact that we've always traded at a meaningful discount to peers I could see situations where we could take advantage of the environment and perhaps accelerate our growth in some specific areas. i could see situations where we could take advantage of the environment and perhaps accelerate our growth in some specific areas That's certainly something that we're keeping a very close eye on. that's certainly something that we're keeping a very close eye on

Speaker 2: Perfect. Thank you, Ollie. Let's now go please to David McCann at Deutsche Numis. David, your line should be open. Perfect. perfect Thank you, Ollie. thank you ollie Let's now go please to David McCann at Deutsche Numis. let's now go please to david mccann at deutsche numis David, your line should be open. david your line should be open

Speaker 4: Morning. Hopefully you can hear me okay. Two questions from me, really focusing on the new disclosure, if that's okay. The first one really is, as with the changes that have been made, are you going to subsequently make any changes to the board and other key staff remuneration, KPIs in light of the new disclosures? If so, what KPIs are now going to matter to the board? What hurdles will need to be achieved? That would be the first question. Secondly, just a more technical one really. Morning. morning Hopefully you can hear me okay. hopefully you can hear me okay Two questions from me, really focusing on the new disclosure, if that's okay. two questions from me really focusing on the new disclosure if that's okay The first one really is, as with the changes that have been made, are you going to subsequently make any changes to the board and other key staff remuneration, KPIs in light of the new disclosures? the first one really is as with the changes that have been made are you going to subsequently make any changes to the board and other key staff remuneration kpis in light of the new disclosures If so, what KPIs are now going to matter to the board? if so what kpis are now going to matter to the board What hurdles will need to be achieved? what hurdles will need to be achieved That would be the first question. that would be the first question Secondly, just a more technical one really. secondly just a more technical one really Thinking about the definition of FRE that you've now struck, can you just outline why you're not including share-based compensation, depreciation, and amortization within the definition of FRE? Related to that, how should we think about the instance of the effective tax rate across the group, splitting them between FRE, PRE, and the other components? Thanks. Thinking about the definition of FRE that you've now struck, can you just outline why you're not including share-based compensation, depreciation, and amortization within the definition of FRE? thinking about the definition of fre that you've now struck can you just outline why you're not including share-based compensation depreciation and amortization within the definition of fre Related to that, how should we think about the instance of the effective tax rate across the group, splitting them between FRE, PRE, and the other components? related to that how should we think about the instance of the effective tax rate across the group splitting them between fre pre and the other components Thanks. thanks

Speaker 3: Morning, David. Let me take your questions maybe in reverse order. In terms of the technicals of the definition, we're using a definition that we believe to be quite comparable to market standards. Most firms don't include share-based compensation in FRE. It's meant to be more aligned to a cash view of the world, and shares obviously aren't cash. In that sense, it's comparable. We do obviously break out all the components, so if you choose to reconstruct the measure a different way or adjust, that's obviously available to you, as well. Tax effects are what they are. It tends to be more about the mix of investment returns versus fees, and obviously those are hard to predict in a given period. That effectively creates the ETR for the year. Morning, David. morning david Let me take your questions maybe in reverse order. let me take your questions maybe in reverse order In terms of the technicals of the definition, we're using a definition that we believe to be quite comparable to market standards. in terms of the technicals of the definition we're using a definition that we believe to be quite comparable to market standards Most firms don't include share-based compensation in FRE. most firms don't include share-based compensation in fre It's meant to be more aligned to a cash view of the world, and shares obviously aren't cash. it's meant to be more aligned to a cash view of the world and shares obviously aren't cash In that sense, it's comparable. in that sense it's comparable We do obviously break out all the components, so if you choose to reconstruct the measure a different way or adjust, that's obviously available to you, as well. we do obviously break out all the components so if you choose to reconstruct the measure a different way or adjust that's obviously available to you as well Tax effects are what they are. tax effects are what they are It tends to be more about the mix of investment returns versus fees, and obviously those are hard to predict in a given period. it tends to be more about the mix of investment returns versus fees and obviously those are hard to predict in a given period That effectively creates the ETR for the year. that effectively creates the etr for the year You'd have to have a view on mix of revenue to really come up with that answer. In terms of the board, obviously we're not talking about the board here today. We're actually talking about the external presentation of the FRE metric, the margin and the guidance. I'm sure in due course, the performance measurement of the management team will be aligned to the way that we're talking about our medium-term guidance. You'd have to have a view on mix of revenue to really come up with that answer. you'd have to have a view on mix of revenue to really come up with that answer In terms of the board, obviously we're not talking about the board here today. in terms of the board obviously we're not talking about the board here today We're actually talking about the external presentation of the FRE metric, the margin and the guidance. we're actually talking about the external presentation of the fre metric the margin and the guidance I'm sure in due course, the performance measurement of the management team will be aligned to the way that we're talking about our medium-term guidance. i'm sure in due course the performance measurement of the management team will be aligned to the way that we're talking about our medium-term guidance

Speaker 2: Thank you, David. Let's move on to Hubert Lam at Bank of America. Hubert, your line should be open. Thank you, David. thank you david Let's move on to Hubert Lam at Bank of America. let's move on to hubert lam at bank of america Hubert, your line should be open. hubert your line should be open

Speaker 6: Hi. Good morning. Just got two questions. Firstly, on costs, can you just give us your guidance on group cost growth for this year? I think for 2026 it was only 3% cost growth, which was better than expected. Just wondering how we should think about this year. Second question is on deployment. I think, Benoît, you were a bit cautious on, correct me if I'm wrong, on deployment this year, similar to last year. Considering you have about GBP 13 billion of dry powder and debt and the dislocation we're seeing in that market, do you see possibly more opportunities to deploy that this year? Thank you. Hi. hi Good morning. good morning Just got two questions. just got two questions Firstly, on costs, can you just give us your guidance on group cost growth for this year? firstly on costs can you just give us your guidance on group cost growth for this year I think for 2026 it was only 3% cost growth, which was better than expected. i think for 2026 it was only 3% cost growth which was better than expected Just wondering how we should think about this year. just wondering how we should think about this year Second question is on deployment. second question is on deployment I think, Benoît, you were a bit cautious on, correct me if I'm wrong, on deployment this year, similar to last year. i think benoît you were a bit cautious on correct me if i'm wrong on deployment this year similar to last year Considering you have about GBP 13 billion of dry powder and debt and the dislocation we're seeing in that market, do you see possibly more opportunities to deploy that this year? considering you have about gbp 13 billion of dry powder and debt and the dislocation we're seeing in that market do you see possibly more opportunities to deploy that this year Thank you. thank you

Speaker 1: David, do you want to go and start? David, do you want to go and start? david do you want to go and start

Speaker 3: Let me just take the cost question first, Hubert. Good morning. I think we've clearly got operating leverage in the business. We've been talking about that for some time. Three quarters of our cost base, as you know, is people and people-related expenses. That's really a view on how much headcount and compensation outcomes. We have good control levers around that. I wouldn't take 3% as new normal. Let me just take the cost question first, Hubert. let me just take the cost question first hubert Good morning. good morning I think we've clearly got operating leverage in the business. i think we've clearly got operating leverage in the business We've been talking about that for some time. we've been talking about that for some time Three quarters of our cost base, as you know, is people and people-related expenses. three quarters of our cost base as you know is people and people-related expenses That's really a view on how much headcount and compensation outcomes. that's really a view on how much headcount and compensation outcomes We have good control levers around that. we have good control levers around that I wouldn't take 3% as new normal. i wouldn't take 3% as new normal I've been guided more in the sort of 5%-10% range because we are clearly still growing the business. As we said in our presentation, we will want to make selective hires, add to the platform, continue to improve the client experience, all of which implies some cost. Clearly we've got positive operating margin embedded into what we've already got. I've been guided more in the sort of 5%-10% range because we are clearly still growing the business. i've been guided more in the sort of 5%-10% range because we are clearly still growing the business As we said in our presentation, we will want to make selective hires, add to the platform, continue to improve the client experience, all of which implies some cost. as we said in our presentation we will want to make selective hires add to the platform continue to improve the client experience all of which implies some cost Clearly we've got positive operating margin embedded into what we've already got. clearly we've got positive operating margin embedded into what we've already got

Speaker 1: Your question on deployment. As I mentioned during the presentation, discussions at investment committees these days are lively and interesting. If you think about it, we have to contend with an incredibly complex geopolitical environment, economic uncertainty, and to add to that, the AI disruption and what this could mean for various industries. That creates quite an interesting environment. Within that, listen, our goal is to be finding the opportunities and finding opportunities that work long term. We're investing for the long term, we're looking through cycles. There are always opportunities. The answer will be different by asset class. I mentioned in direct lending, we've taken advantage of our existing portfolios. We've been doing this for a long time in direct lending. Your question on deployment. your question on deployment As I mentioned during the presentation, discussions at investment committees these days are lively and interesting. as i mentioned during the presentation discussions at investment committees these days are lively and interesting If you think about it, we have to contend with an incredibly complex geopolitical environment, economic uncertainty, and to add to that, the AI disruption and what this could mean for various industries. if you think about it we have to contend with an incredibly complex geopolitical environment economic uncertainty and to add to that the ai disruption and what this could mean for various industries That creates quite an interesting environment. that creates quite an interesting environment Within that, listen, our goal is to be finding the opportunities and finding opportunities that work long term. within that listen our goal is to be finding the opportunities and finding opportunities that work long term We're investing for the long term, we're looking through cycles. we're investing for the long term we're looking through cycles There are always opportunities. there are always opportunities The answer will be different by asset class. the answer will be different by asset class I mentioned in direct lending, we've taken advantage of our existing portfolios. i mentioned in direct lending we've taken advantage of our existing portfolios We've been doing this for a long time in direct lending. we've been doing this for a long time in direct lending We've been taking advantage of our existing portfolios to add financings to companies that we know and with legal documentation that is quite favorable, particularly compared to some of what we see in the number of deals in the market these days. We also have a number of niche-er strategies, not in size, because they've been growing in size, but certainly in their approach to our Flagship Structured Capital. It's precisely designed to deal with an environment like this one. It's self-originated transaction. They're non-sponsored deals where we're supporting family owners and founder owners. It requires a lot of origination capability, but that means you're less beholden to the broader buyout market and that cycle. It's not a surprise I mentioned how successful we've been in fundraising there. We've been taking advantage of our existing portfolios to add financings to companies that we know and with legal documentation that is quite favorable, particularly compared to some of what we see in the number of deals in the market these days. we've been taking advantage of our existing portfolios to add financings to companies that we know and with legal documentation that is quite favorable particularly compared to some of what we see in the number of deals in the market these days We also have a number of niche-er strategies, not in size, because they've been growing in size, but certainly in their approach to our Flagship Structured Capital. we also have a number of niche-er strategies not in size because they've been growing in size but certainly in their approach to our flagship structured capital It's precisely designed to deal with an environment like this one. it's precisely designed to deal with an environment like this one It's self-originated transaction. it's self-originated transaction They're non-sponsored deals where we're supporting family owners and founder owners. they're non-sponsored deals where we're supporting family owners and founder owners It requires a lot of origination capability, but that means you're less beholden to the broader buyout market and that cycle. it requires a lot of origination capability but that means you're less beholden to the broader buyout market and that cycle It's not a surprise I mentioned how successful we've been in fundraising there. it's not a surprise i mentioned how successful we've been in fundraising there That shouldn't be a surprise, because that's quite an interesting space to be in right now, and we happen to be a global leader. You have to pick your spots. I mentioned secondaries as well. There's a lot of deal flow in secondaries because obviously, all the GPs are looking for some liquidity and LPs as well. Having said that, there are still questions around equity valuations, and so we're very, very cautious. This is an environment where, yes, you want to find the opportunities to deploy, but you also need to be conscious of the risk out there and remain quite selective and cautious. That's what we're known for. That's always been our approach. We're not going to move away from being more on the conservative side and highly disciplined in deployment. That shouldn't be a surprise, because that's quite an interesting space to be in right now, and we happen to be a global leader. that shouldn't be a surprise because that's quite an interesting space to be in right now and we happen to be a global leader You have to pick your spots. you have to pick your spots I mentioned secondaries as well. i mentioned secondaries as well There's a lot of deal flow in secondaries because obviously, all the GPs are looking for some liquidity and LPs as well. there's a lot of deal flow in secondaries because obviously all the gps are looking for some liquidity and lps as well Having said that, there are still questions around equity valuations, and so we're very, very cautious. having said that there are still questions around equity valuations and so we're very very cautious This is an environment where, yes, you want to find the opportunities to deploy, but you also need to be conscious of the risk out there and remain quite selective and cautious. this is an environment where yes you want to find the opportunities to deploy but you also need to be conscious of the risk out there and remain quite selective and cautious That's what we're known for. that's what we're known for That's always been our approach. that's always been our approach We're not going to move away from being more on the conservative side and highly disciplined in deployment. we're not going to move away from being more on the conservative side and highly disciplined in deployment

Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Moving on. Nick Herman from Citi. Your line should be open, Nick. Thank you very much. thank you very much Moving on. moving on Nick Herman from Citi. nick herman from citi Your line should be open, Nick. your line should be open nick

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Speaker 8: Perfect. Thanks. Yeah, two questions from me. On the first one, I guess on the balance sheet, you dropped the NIR targets, and I hear you that you still expect to achieve double-digit returns over time. Does that imply, I guess, more volatility in balance sheet returns in the short term, potentially from debt returns? I guess more broadly, it feels like you're trying to de-emphasize the balance sheet a little here. This is another strong set of results that's been overshadowed by the balance sheet. Maybe this is a question for another time, have you considered other actions to minimize volatility and balance sheet returns? Then the second question I had was, you said that you see significant operating leverage and are targeting FRE margin accretion. Perfect. perfect Thanks. thanks Yeah, two questions from me. yeah two questions from me On the first one, I guess on the balance sheet, you dropped the NIR targets, and I hear you that you still expect to achieve double-digit returns over time. on the first one i guess on the balance sheet you dropped the nir targets and i hear you that you still expect to achieve double-digit returns over time Does that imply, I guess, more volatility in balance sheet returns in the short term, potentially from debt returns? does that imply i guess more volatility in balance sheet returns in the short term potentially from debt returns I guess more broadly, it feels like you're trying to de-emphasize the balance sheet a little here. i guess more broadly it feels like you're trying to de-emphasize the balance sheet a little here This is another strong set of results that's been overshadowed by the balance sheet. this is another strong set of results that's been overshadowed by the balance sheet Maybe this is a question for another time, have you considered other actions to minimize volatility and balance sheet returns? maybe this is a question for another time have you considered other actions to minimize volatility and balance sheet returns Then the second question I had was, you said that you see significant operating leverage and are targeting FRE margin accretion. then the second question i had was you said that you see significant operating leverage and are targeting fre margin accretion You're at 51% today or 47% ex catch-up fees, effectively at the end of your current fundraising cycle. Broadly speaking, where do you think you can reach by the end of the next fundraising cycle? Would 50% be a reasonable assumption? Thanks. You're at 51% today or 47% ex catch-up fees, effectively at the end of your current fundraising cycle. you're at 51% today or 47% ex catch-up fees effectively at the end of your current fundraising cycle Broadly speaking, where do you think you can reach by the end of the next fundraising cycle? broadly speaking where do you think you can reach by the end of the next fundraising cycle Would 50% be a reasonable assumption? would 50% be a reasonable assumption Thanks. thanks

Speaker 3: Nick. Let me take those. Firstly, we haven't changed our view on the balance sheet. Let's be clear. We talk about double-digit returns over the medium to long term. That still remains our view. Why is that? As we said, the balance sheet is invested in the funds, and that's what the funds do over a long time horizon. In substance, nothing has changed. This year was a 5% return. I don't think in the environment we're in, that should be massively surprising to individuals, and it shows the diversification benefit of the balance sheet, if anything, investing across multiple asset classes. On the margin, I tend to agree with your direction of travel in your statement. We are going to accrete FRE margin over time. Nick. nick Let me take those. let me take those Firstly, we haven't changed our view on the balance sheet. firstly we haven't changed our view on the balance sheet Let's be clear. let's be clear We talk about double-digit returns over the medium to long term. we talk about double-digit returns over the medium to long term That still remains our view. that still remains our view Why is that? why is that As we said, the balance sheet is invested in the funds, and that's what the funds do over a long time horizon. as we said the balance sheet is invested in the funds and that's what the funds do over a long time horizon In substance, nothing has changed. in substance nothing has changed This year was a 5% return. this year was a 5% return I don't think in the environment we're in, that should be massively surprising to individuals, and it shows the diversification benefit of the balance sheet, if anything, investing across multiple asset classes. i don't think in the environment we're in that should be massively surprising to individuals and it shows the diversification benefit of the balance sheet if anything investing across multiple asset classes On the margin, I tend to agree with your direction of travel in your statement. on the margin i tend to agree with your direction of travel in your statement We are going to accrete FRE margin over time. we are going to accrete fre margin over time It'll be lumpy in a given year because of the fundraising cycle and the way that management fees are recorded. Fundamentally and structurally, we can accrete FRE margin from here, which is exactly why we've put it into the guidance. It'll be lumpy in a given year because of the fundraising cycle and the way that management fees are recorded. it'll be lumpy in a given year because of the fundraising cycle and the way that management fees are recorded Fundamentally and structurally, we can accrete FRE margin from here, which is exactly why we've put it into the guidance. fundamentally and structurally we can accrete fre margin from here which is exactly why we've put it into the guidance

Speaker 1: I think it's worth mentioning if it's not clear. Obviously, it's in the data pack, but the balance sheet has very limited exposure to direct lending because we practically don't co-invest in the direct lending funds because we don't have to, because the LPs understand that the returns are not suitable for our balance sheet. We hardly co-invest. The exposure is on CLOs, which we've historically disciplined ourself to limit at around 10% of the balance sheet. Our exposure to debt instrument in the debt strategies and the balance sheet is actually quite limited. I think there's a bit of a, potentially, a misconception there. Fundamentally, as David said, the balance sheet is essentially tracking our funds. Again, I think the linkage has not really been made. I think it's worth mentioning if it's not clear. i think it's worth mentioning if it's not clear Obviously, it's in the data pack, but the balance sheet has very limited exposure to direct lending because we practically don't co-invest in the direct lending funds because we don't have to, because the LPs understand that the returns are not suitable for our balance sheet. obviously it's in the data pack but the balance sheet has very limited exposure to direct lending because we practically don't co-invest in the direct lending funds because we don't have to because the lps understand that the returns are not suitable for our balance sheet We hardly co-invest. we hardly co-invest The exposure is on CLOs, which we've historically disciplined ourself to limit at around 10% of the balance sheet. the exposure is on clos which we've historically disciplined ourself to limit at around 10% of the balance sheet Our exposure to debt instrument in the debt strategies and the balance sheet is actually quite limited. our exposure to debt instrument in the debt strategies and the balance sheet is actually quite limited I think there's a bit of a, potentially, a misconception there. i think there's a bit of a potentially a misconception there Fundamentally, as David said, the balance sheet is essentially tracking our funds. fundamentally as david said the balance sheet is essentially tracking our funds Again, I think the linkage has not really been made. again i think the linkage has not really been made We wouldn't be fundraising and having the success that we've been having and that we've been showing during this presentation for a long time now if our funds weren't performing well. That's what the balance sheet is invested in. It just mirrors that. Everything's medium to long term for us. What happens in a given year is largely irrelevant. Medium-term, it will reflect what we are doing in our funds, which clearly LPs seem to appreciate. We wouldn't be fundraising and having the success that we've been having and that we've been showing during this presentation for a long time now if our funds weren't performing well. we wouldn't be fundraising and having the success that we've been having and that we've been showing during this presentation for a long time now if our funds weren't performing well That's what the balance sheet is invested in. that's what the balance sheet is invested in It just mirrors that. it just mirrors that Everything's medium to long term for us. everything's medium to long term for us What happens in a given year is largely irrelevant. what happens in a given year is largely irrelevant Medium-term, it will reflect what we are doing in our funds, which clearly LPs seem to appreciate. medium-term it will reflect what we are doing in our funds which clearly lps seem to appreciate

Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Nick, as you'll have seen, the co-invest portfolio generated nearly GBP 500 million of net cash flow. We should think of cash generation as well on that. Moving on, conscious of time, Michael Sanderson at Barclays, your line should be open. Yeah, exactly. yeah exactly Nick, as you'll have seen, the co-invest portfolio generated nearly GBP 500 million of net cash flow. nick as you'll have seen the co-invest portfolio generated nearly gbp 500 million of net cash flow We should think of cash generation as well on that. we should think of cash generation as well on that Moving on, conscious of time, Michael Sanderson at Barclays, your line should be open. moving on conscious of time michael sanderson at barclays your line should be open

Speaker 7: Good morning. Thank you for taking the question. A couple, please. First one, Benoît, you were making some comments about the nature of private wealth, and how your institutional angle is particularly strong. I was just interested how we think about Amundi partnership and the products you're likely to put there, and how those will suit your more institutional focus and how you're going to change pieces around the investment process, if at all, around that. The second one was just talking about some of the fundraising. You talked about the FY 2027 back end, I think Strategic Equity and Senior Debt starting to raise. That feels like a slight bring forward from, I think, previous conversations. You can correct me obviously if I'm wrong. Good morning. good morning Thank you for taking the question. thank you for taking the question A couple, please. a couple please First one, Benoît, you were making some comments about the nature of private wealth, and how your institutional angle is particularly strong. first one benoît you were making some comments about the nature of private wealth and how your institutional angle is particularly strong I was just interested how we think about Amundi partnership and the products you're likely to put there, and how those will suit your more institutional focus and how you're going to change pieces around the investment process, if at all, around that. i was just interested how we think about amundi partnership and the products you're likely to put there and how those will suit your more institutional focus and how you're going to change pieces around the investment process if at all around that The second one was just talking about some of the fundraising. the second one was just talking about some of the fundraising You talked about the FY 2027 back end, I think Strategic Equity and Senior Debt starting to raise. you talked about the fy 2027 back end i think strategic equity and senior debt starting to raise That feels like a slight bring forward from, I think, previous conversations. that feels like a slight bring forward from i think previous conversations You can correct me obviously if I'm wrong. you can correct me obviously if i'm wrong Given the deployment environment was seeming, from your commentary, to be challenging still, I was quite surprised you would bring those forward in that environment. Feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood previous position. Given the deployment environment was seeming, from your commentary, to be challenging still, I was quite surprised you would bring those forward in that environment. given the deployment environment was seeming from your commentary to be challenging still i was quite surprised you would bring those forward in that environment Feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood previous position. feel free to correct me if i've misunderstood previous position

Speaker 1: Okay. Thank you, Michael. Two good questions. First of all, on Amundi, that's a really good question. The main reason we entered into the partnership with Amundi is that we share a very similar view on how to approach the alternative asset class for wealth, which is largely not how it's been done to date. Which is why we're going to take our time, by the way, to craft the product that we think are adequate, and adequately protect the end investor. For instance, the evergreen vehicles I don't think are appropriate for many of the asset classes in our world. They can work in credit and in LP secondaries, but with a number of caveats. I'm not going to through the whole list, but for instance, I have some pragmatic rules. Okay. okay Thank you, Michael. thank you michael Two good questions. two good questions First of all, on Amundi, that's a really good question. first of all on amundi that's a really good question The main reason we entered into the partnership with Amundi is that we share a very similar view on how to approach the alternative asset class for wealth, which is largely not how it's been done to date. the main reason we entered into the partnership with amundi is that we share a very similar view on how to approach the alternative asset class for wealth which is largely not how it's been done to date Which is why we're going to take our time, by the way, to craft the product that we think are adequate, and adequately protect the end investor. which is why we're going to take our time by the way to craft the product that we think are adequate and adequately protect the end investor For instance, the evergreen vehicles I don't think are appropriate for many of the asset classes in our world. for instance the evergreen vehicles i don't think are appropriate for many of the asset classes in our world They can work in credit and in LP secondaries, but with a number of caveats. they can work in credit and in lp secondaries but with a number of caveats I'm not going to through the whole list, but for instance, I have some pragmatic rules. i'm not going to through the whole list but for instance i have some pragmatic rules For instance, that if you have an evergreen vehicle, it should be investing in parallel to the institutional fund that you have, which no one does, by the way. This is not the way it's been done. It has implications because it means that you're not going to be rushing to invest any money that's coming through the door in your evergreen. You're just going to wait for the next deal that gets done. You're going to be holding cash for longer, which has an impact on returns, but it's the right thing to do. Yeah, this is one example, but we're putting a set of our own rules and constraints in what we think is the right thing to do, and we'll only approach the market on that basis. There's another aspect which is fundamentally, in both Amundi's and our view, is the long-term bigger prize. For instance, that if you have an evergreen vehicle, it should be investing in parallel to the institutional fund that you have, which no one does, by the way. for instance that if you have an evergreen vehicle it should be investing in parallel to the institutional fund that you have which no one does by the way This is not the way it's been done. this is not the way it's been done It has implications because it means that you're not going to be rushing to invest any money that's coming through the door in your evergreen. it has implications because it means that you're not going to be rushing to invest any money that's coming through the door in your evergreen You're just going to wait for the next deal that gets done. you're just going to wait for the next deal that gets done You're going to be holding cash for longer, which has an impact on returns, but it's the right thing to do. you're going to be holding cash for longer which has an impact on returns but it's the right thing to do Yeah, this is one example, but we're putting a set of our own rules and constraints in what we think is the right thing to do, and we'll only approach the market on that basis. yeah this is one example but we're putting a set of our own rules and constraints in what we think is the right thing to do and we'll only approach the market on that basis There's another aspect which is fundamentally, in both Amundi's and our view, is the long-term bigger prize. there's another aspect which is fundamentally in both amundi's and our view is the long-term bigger prize It will require education of the market, which is that in many areas of the market, particularly anything that has to do with retirements, with pension, and especially in Europe, the education will be that some of these portfolios should have a long-term outlook and therefore be invested in long-term strategies. For that, alternative assets are a very good way to diversify, but you need to explain that they're illiquid, and that you cannot magically create liquidity out of fundamentally illiquid products. That's what we're working on. I think long term, the potential is huge, but we're going to remain very disciplined in that way. It will require education of the market, which is that in many areas of the market, particularly anything that has to do with retirements, with pension, and especially in Europe, the education will be that some of these portfolios should have a long-term outlook and therefore be invested in long-term strategies. it will require education of the market which is that in many areas of the market particularly anything that has to do with retirements with pension and especially in europe the education will be that some of these portfolios should have a long-term outlook and therefore be invested in long-term strategies For that, alternative assets are a very good way to diversify, but you need to explain that they're illiquid, and that you cannot magically create liquidity out of fundamentally illiquid products. for that alternative assets are a very good way to diversify but you need to explain that they're illiquid and that you cannot magically create liquidity out of fundamentally illiquid products That's what we're working on. that's what we're working on I think long term, the potential is huge, but we're going to remain very disciplined in that way. i think long term the potential is huge but we're going to remain very disciplined in that way As a result, there is no inconsistency, because I think that was part of your question, with how we're approaching infrastructure, because in a sense, we're pushing wealth closer to how we're investing institutional investor money, which is as it should be. You're also avoiding all the potential conflicts of interest of allocation between buckets, which I think it's a really bad idea to get into that, and we don't want to get into that. That's for how we're approaching the wealth opportunity with Amundi. There's a lot of work going on. Just yesterday, we filed in Luxembourg with the CSSF to create the SICAV, which will be the umbrella SICAV for our various products. Things are progressing. On the fundraising front, you're partially correct. On direct lending, I think we're pretty much on track with what we expected. As a result, there is no inconsistency, because I think that was part of your question, with how we're approaching infrastructure, because in a sense, we're pushing wealth closer to how we're investing institutional investor money, which is as it should be. as a result there is no inconsistency because i think that was part of your question with how we're approaching infrastructure because in a sense we're pushing wealth closer to how we're investing institutional investor money which is as it should be You're also avoiding all the potential conflicts of interest of allocation between buckets, which I think it's a really bad idea to get into that, and we don't want to get into that. you're also avoiding all the potential conflicts of interest of allocation between buckets which i think it's a really bad idea to get into that and we don't want to get into that That's for how we're approaching the wealth opportunity with Amundi. that's for how we're approaching the wealth opportunity with amundi There's a lot of work going on. there's a lot of work going on Just yesterday, we filed in Luxembourg with the CSSF to create the SICAV, which will be the umbrella SICAV for our various products. just yesterday we filed in luxembourg with the cssf to create the sicav which will be the umbrella sicav for our various products Things are progressing. things are progressing On the fundraising front, you're partially correct. on the fundraising front you're partially correct On direct lending, I think we're pretty much on track with what we expected. on direct lending i think we're pretty much on track with what we expected It is always difficult to predict the exact timing because as you pointed out, it is correlated to deployment, but that is pretty much when we expect it to come back to market with SDP, sometime this year or maybe early next year. Maybe we are a quarter ahead, but I wouldn't make too much of that. Strategic Equity, it is true that we are perhaps a bit ahead of what we initially anticipated, which incidentally is why we thought for a while about launching a mid-market version of that strategy, and we decided to hold precisely because the large cap was going to come back a bit earlier than we thought, and we didn't want to create an overlap. We might come back to that in the future. That is just for Strategic Equity. Two deals will move the needle. It is always difficult to predict the exact timing because as you pointed out, it is correlated to deployment, but that is pretty much when we expect it to come back to market with SDP, sometime this year or maybe early next year. it is always difficult to predict the exact timing because as you pointed out it is correlated to deployment but that is pretty much when we expect it to come back to market with sdp sometime this year or maybe early next year Maybe we are a quarter ahead, but I wouldn't make too much of that. maybe we are a quarter ahead but i wouldn't make too much of that Strategic Equity, it is true that we are perhaps a bit ahead of what we initially anticipated, which incidentally is why we thought for a while about launching a mid-market version of that strategy, and we decided to hold precisely because the large cap was going to come back a bit earlier than we thought, and we didn't want to create an overlap. strategic equity it is true that we are perhaps a bit ahead of what we initially anticipated which incidentally is why we thought for a while about launching a mid-market version of that strategy and we decided to hold precisely because the large cap was going to come back a bit earlier than we thought and we didn't want to create an overlap We might come back to that in the future. we might come back to that in the future That is just for Strategic Equity. Two deals will move the needle. that is just for strategic equity. two deals will move the needle Again, I wouldn't make too much of that because you're successful on two transactions closing, and suddenly you're ahead of time, or it so happens we're ahead, but you could be late by six months, it doesn't make much of a difference. Yes, we're slightly ahead on Strategic Equity. In the scheme of things, doesn't really change things. What really matters is the cycle, is how much we raise in the next fund. We have a global leadership in that strategy. That fund is larger than that of peers globally by some margin. I'd like to maintain that head start. That's going to be the goal for the fundraising of the next Strategic Equity. Again, I wouldn't make too much of that because you're successful on two transactions closing, and suddenly you're ahead of time, or it so happens we're ahead, but you could be late by six months, it doesn't make much of a difference. again i wouldn't make too much of that because you're successful on two transactions closing and suddenly you're ahead of time or it so happens we're ahead but you could be late by six months it doesn't make much of a difference Yes, we're slightly ahead on Strategic Equity. yes we're slightly ahead on strategic equity In the scheme of things, doesn't really change things. in the scheme of things doesn't really change things What really matters is the cycle, is how much we raise in the next fund. what really matters is the cycle is how much we raise in the next fund We have a global leadership in that strategy. we have a global leadership in that strategy That fund is larger than that of peers globally by some margin. that fund is larger than that of peers globally by some margin I'd like to maintain that head start. i'd like to maintain that head start That's going to be the goal for the fundraising of the next Strategic Equity. that's going to be the goal for the fundraising of the next strategic equity

Speaker 2: Thank you very much. We have Haley Tam from UBS. Haley, I think your line should be open. Perhaps we don't. With that, I think there are no more verbal questions. Thank you very much. thank you very much We have Haley Tam from UBS. we have haley tam from ubs Haley, I think your line should be open. haley i think your line should be open Perhaps we don't. perhaps we don't With that, I think there are no more verbal questions. with that i think there are no more verbal questions

Speaker 5: Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? can you hear me now

Speaker 2: Oh, hi, Haley. Yes, we can. Oh, hi, Haley. oh hi haley Yes, we can. yes we can

Speaker 5: Hi. Sorry. I did the classic I forgot to unmute, so I apologize for that. Can I ask you two questions, please? Firstly, on the cash flow generation from the portfolio on the balance sheet, I think there was a significant realization of more than GBP 500 million you flagged this year. Was that all from reducing the co-investments or optimizing the co-investments, or was there any particular realizations that we should be flagging? That's the first question. The second one, just in terms of the balance sheet investment returns, 8% on structured capital and secondaries for two consecutive years now. Can I just confirm what you've said a few times, that is representative of what you're seeing on the flagship funds? If so, how can we square that with the very impressive IRRs and MOICs that you report for those funds? Thank you. Hi. hi Sorry. sorry I did the classic I forgot to unmute, so I apologize for that. i did the classic i forgot to unmute so i apologize for that Can I ask you two questions, please? can i ask you two questions please Firstly, on the cash flow generation from the portfolio on the balance sheet, I think there was a significant realization of more than GBP 500 million you flagged this year. firstly on the cash flow generation from the portfolio on the balance sheet i think there was a significant realization of more than gbp 500 million you flagged this year Was that all from reducing the co-investments or optimizing the co-investments, or was there any particular realizations that we should be flagging? was that all from reducing the co-investments or optimizing the co-investments or was there any particular realizations that we should be flagging That's the first question. that's the first question The second one, just in terms of the balance sheet investment returns, 8% on structured capital and secondaries for two consecutive years now. the second one just in terms of the balance sheet investment returns 8% on structured capital and secondaries for two consecutive years now Can I just confirm what you've said a few times, that is representative of what you're seeing on the flagship funds? can i just confirm what you've said a few times that is representative of what you're seeing on the flagship funds If so, how can we square that with the very impressive IRRs and MOICs that you report for those funds? if so how can we square that with the very impressive irrs and moics that you report for those funds Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe I'll just take the realization question, Haley. Obviously, it's the totality of everything that's going on in the funds that's generating that realization. I described it as quite high because we had a good year for realizations across portfolios, and therefore the balance sheet benefited, as do LPs from those realizations. Yeah. yeah Maybe I'll just take the realization question, Haley. maybe i'll just take the realization question haley Obviously, it's the totality of everything that's going on in the funds that's generating that realization. obviously it's the totality of everything that's going on in the funds that's generating that realization I described it as quite high because we had a good year for realizations across portfolios, and therefore the balance sheet benefited, as do LPs from those realizations. i described it as quite high because we had a good year for realizations across portfolios and therefore the balance sheet benefited as do lps from those realizations That's why we had the higher elevated level of structural inflows. I also described the trend. The trend is clear. If we continue to allocate less capital to successive vintages, which is what we're doing, the back book of co-investments will be generating more cash and will be more positive to pay down the debt and do the other things we talked about. It's more the trend and more the direction of travel, which I think was particularly interesting, but it was a high year for realizations from a balance sheet perspective. That's why we had the higher elevated level of structural inflows. that's why we had the higher elevated level of structural inflows I also described the trend. i also described the trend The trend is clear. the trend is clear If we continue to allocate less capital to successive vintages, which is what we're doing, the back book of co-investments will be generating more cash and will be more positive to pay down the debt and do the other things we talked about. if we continue to allocate less capital to successive vintages which is what we're doing the back book of co-investments will be generating more cash and will be more positive to pay down the debt and do the other things we talked about It's more the trend and more the direction of travel, which I think was particularly interesting, but it was a high year for realizations from a balance sheet perspective. it's more the trend and more the direction of travel which i think was particularly interesting but it was a high year for realizations from a balance sheet perspective

Speaker 1: The difficulty, it's always the same, is it's very difficult to look at a one-year performance and draw conclusions on funds because, yes, there is a link, but it's not an immediate link. I think I've mentioned before that there are a lot of things that come into play in funds. In structured capital, our performance is upper teens. Right? This is upper teens over the life of the fund. From one year to another, particularly if you've had a number of exits, typically because that's what accounting requires, the closer you get to exit, the more you converge towards whatever exit value would be. Once you've achieved that, well, there's no uplift for a period of time because you've recognized it in the past. The difficulty, it's always the same, is it's very difficult to look at a one-year performance and draw conclusions on funds because, yes, there is a link, but it's not an immediate link. the difficulty it's always the same is it's very difficult to look at a one-year performance and draw conclusions on funds because yes there is a link but it's not an immediate link I think I've mentioned before that there are a lot of things that come into play in funds. i think i've mentioned before that there are a lot of things that come into play in funds In structured capital, our performance is upper teens. in structured capital our performance is upper teens Right? right This is upper teens over the life of the fund. this is upper teens over the life of the fund From one year to another, particularly if you've had a number of exits, typically because that's what accounting requires, the closer you get to exit, the more you converge towards whatever exit value would be. from one year to another particularly if you've had a number of exits typically because that's what accounting requires the closer you get to exit the more you converge towards whatever exit value would be Once you've achieved that, well, there's no uplift for a period of time because you've recognized it in the past. once you've achieved that well there's no uplift for a period of time because you've recognized it in the past Also when you're deploying, you do not recognize any uplift in value for a year unless it's debt and you have interest, and you have to recognize the interest accrual. Otherwise, if you have any equity component, our policy is we do not recognize any increase in value for a year. The more you deploy, the less of an increase you're seeing in your NAV, at least in the near term, and then you see that catch up later on. That's why it's very difficult to look at an in-year. I think it's more helpful, and we provide some information on that, to look at fund performance, because in the end, that's what the balance sheet ends up reflecting. It just may be in different years or spread out over a longer period of time. Also when you're deploying, you do not recognize any uplift in value for a year unless it's debt and you have interest, and you have to recognize the interest accrual. also when you're deploying you do not recognize any uplift in value for a year unless it's debt and you have interest and you have to recognize the interest accrual Otherwise, if you have any equity component, our policy is we do not recognize any increase in value for a year. otherwise if you have any equity component our policy is we do not recognize any increase in value for a year The more you deploy, the less of an increase you're seeing in your NAV, at least in the near term, and then you see that catch up later on. the more you deploy the less of an increase you're seeing in your nav at least in the near term and then you see that catch up later on That's why it's very difficult to look at an in-year. that's why it's very difficult to look at an in-year I think it's more helpful, and we provide some information on that, to look at fund performance, because in the end, that's what the balance sheet ends up reflecting. i think it's more helpful and we provide some information on that to look at fund performance because in the end that's what the balance sheet ends up reflecting It just may be in different years or spread out over a longer period of time. it just may be in different years or spread out over a longer period of time If the question is, are you seeing a deterioration in the performance of the underlying fund? The answer is no, absolutely not. We're not seeing that at all. Nor should we, in a way, because we're not experiencing a recession. It would be unusual if we were to see this at this point. If the question is, are you seeing a deterioration in the performance of the underlying fund? if the question is are you seeing a deterioration in the performance of the underlying fund The answer is no, absolutely not. the answer is no absolutely not We're not seeing that at all. we're not seeing that at all Nor should we, in a way, because we're not experiencing a recession. nor should we in a way because we're not experiencing a recession It would be unusual if we were to see this at this point. it would be unusual if we were to see this at this point

Speaker 2: Thanks, Benoît. There's been a written question around whether we see any merit in doing something along the lines of the SRTs that the banks have been doing around in balance sheet risk transfer. Dave, that's not something that we consider within the balance sheet's available strategies. Thanks, Benoît. thanks benoît There's been a written question around whether we see any merit in doing something along the lines of the SRTs that the banks have been doing around in balance sheet risk transfer. there's been a written question around whether we see any merit in doing something along the lines of the srts that the banks have been doing around in balance sheet risk transfer Dave, that's not something that we consider within the balance sheet's available strategies. dave that's not something that we consider within the balance sheet's available strategies

Speaker 3: We can't. Just to be clear, that's not a financial decision. We can't. The balance sheet is co-investing in the fund. It's the alignment of interest. That's our co-investment in the funds. Okay? We are committing to the LPs essentially to keep skin in the game. We couldn't, through the back door, de-risk the balance sheet, i.e., disalign ourselves with LPs. We can't. we can't Just to be clear, that's not a financial decision. just to be clear that's not a financial decision We can't. we can't The balance sheet is co-investing in the fund. the balance sheet is co-investing in the fund It's the alignment of interest. it's the alignment of interest That's our co-investment in the funds. that's our co-investment in the funds Okay? okay We are committing to the LPs essentially to keep skin in the game. we are committing to the lps essentially to keep skin in the game We couldn't, through the back door, de-risk the balance sheet, i.e., disalign ourselves with LPs. we couldn't through the back door de-risk the balance sheet i.e disalign ourselves with lps That's not what they want, that's not what they need, right? I think it's really important to understand is LPs in our world are looking for alignment of interest. They're typically looking for 1%-2% of co-investment in any strategy. Some of it is put in personally by the investment teams, but as you can imagine, if you're raising a GBP 10 billion fund, the teams can put up 1%-2%. That's where you need the balance sheet. As a result, the balance sheet needs to remain on the hook. We can't suddenly start securitizing or doing some fancy off-balance sheet de-risking. That's not what they want, that's not what they need, right? that's not what they want that's not what they need right I think it's really important to understand is LPs in our world are looking for alignment of interest. i think it's really important to understand is lps in our world are looking for alignment of interest They're typically looking for 1%- 2% of co-investment in any strategy. they're typically looking for 1%- 2% of co-investment in any strategy Some of it is put in personally by the investment teams, but as you can imagine, if you're raising a GBP 10 billion fund, the teams can put up 1%- 2%. some of it is put in personally by the investment teams but as you can imagine if you're raising a gbp 10 billion fund, the teams can put up 1%- 2% That's where you need the balance sheet. that's where you need the balance sheet As a result, the balance sheet needs to remain on the hook. as a result the balance sheet needs to remain on the hook We can't suddenly start securitizing or doing some fancy off-balance sheet de-risking. we can't suddenly start securitizing or doing some fancy off-balance sheet de-risking

Speaker 2: Great. There is one written question that we'll close with. Benoît, your CEO review and your tone today has been maybe slightly more long-term optimistic on the opportunities ahead, particularly around the scaling strategies in for real estate and LP secondaries. If you were to think 5, 10 years ahead, what could you do with the existing product suite of businesses, or Great. great There is one written question that we'll close with. there is one written question that we'll close with Benoît, your CEO review and your tone today has been maybe slightly more long-term optimistic on the opportunities ahead, particularly around the scaling strategies in for real estate and LP secondaries. benoît your ceo review and your tone today has been maybe slightly more long-term optimistic on the opportunities ahead particularly around the scaling strategies in for real estate and lp secondaries If you were to think 5, 10 years ahead, what could you do with the existing product suite of businesses, or if you were to think 5 10 years ahead what could you do with the existing product suite of businesses or

Speaker 1: Well, that is a bit of a crystal ball. Maybe I sounded more optimistic. The reason for that is, as I pointed out, you really only know that a strategy has probably taken hold once you are through the second vintage, right? Raising a first fund, having a first-time fund close is incredibly hard. Even when you have done that, you are not out of the woods. Well, that is a bit of a crystal ball. well that is a bit of a crystal ball Maybe I sounded more optimistic. maybe i sounded more optimistic The reason for that is, as I pointed out, you really only know that a strategy has probably taken hold once you are through the second vintage, right? the reason for that is as i pointed out you really only know that a strategy has probably taken hold once you are through the second vintage right Raising a first fund, having a first-time fund close is incredibly hard. raising a first fund having a first-time fund close is incredibly hard Even when you have done that, you are not out of the woods. even when you have done that you are not out of the woods It is only once you have raised the second vintage, which is typically much larger than the first one, that you have properly established a team, established a credibility, you have an LP base, and you can then look at, okay, normally if things go to plan, normally you are just going to increase that strategy. It so happens that in real assets, so both in Infra and in real estate, hopefully in LP secondaries tomorrow, but we are not there yet in LP secondaries. It is only once you have raised the second vintage, which is typically much larger than the first one, that you have properly established a team, established a credibility, you have an LP base, and you can then look at, okay, normally if things go to plan, normally you are just going to increase that strategy. it is only once you have raised the second vintage which is typically much larger than the first one that you have properly established a team established a credibility you have an lp base and you can then look at okay normally if things go to plan normally you are just going to increase that strategy It so happens that in real assets, so both in Infra and in real estate, hopefully in LP secondaries tomorrow, but we are not there yet in LP secondaries. it so happens that in real assets so both in infra and in real estate hopefully in lp secondaries tomorrow but we are not there yet in lp secondaries In infra equity and in real estate equity, we are now there. That's why I sound a lot more confident because once you've reached that point, it's a lot easier to start thinking about, okay, I've raised a GBP 3+ billion infra equity strategy for Europe. It's not unrealistic to think that the next fund can be GBP 5+ billion. It's not unrealistic to think that on the back of that success, I can start looking at Asia. Same thing in real estate, maybe with an eye on the U.S. more than Asia in real estate. Suddenly it's more credibly opening the door to growth, which is maybe why I'm sounding more confident is just it's easier to be more confident on those. Hopefully, a year from now or two years from now, we'll be able to say the same about LP secondaries. In infra equity and in real estate equity, we are now there. in infra equity and in real estate equity we are now there That's why I sound a lot more confident because once you've reached that point, it's a lot easier to start thinking about, okay, I've raised a GBP 3+ billion infra equity strategy for Europe. that's why i sound a lot more confident because once you've reached that point it's a lot easier to start thinking about okay i've raised a gbp 3+ billion infra equity strategy for europe It's not unrealistic to think that the next fund can be GBP 5+ billion. it's not unrealistic to think that the next fund can be gbp 5+ billion It's not unrealistic to think that on the back of that success, I can start looking at Asia. it's not unrealistic to think that on the back of that success i can start looking at asia Same thing in real estate, maybe with an eye on the U.S. more than Asia in real estate. same thing in real estate maybe with an eye on the u.s more than asia in real estate Suddenly it's more credibly opening the door to growth, which is maybe why I'm sounding more confident is just it's easier to be more confident on those. suddenly it's more credibly opening the door to growth which is maybe why i'm sounding more confident is just it's easier to be more confident on those Hopefully, a year from now or two years from now, we'll be able to say the same about LP secondaries. hopefully a year from now or two years from now we'll be able to say the same about lp secondaries As a result, suddenly that's creating quite a lot of growth potential, right? Because if you look at infrastructure and real estate together, in the next vintage, the two combined could be as large as our historical flagship fund as European corporate. These are fees on committed strategies, it's the same level of profitability. That's a positive outlook. As a result, suddenly that's creating quite a lot of growth potential, right? as a result suddenly that's creating quite a lot of growth potential right Because if you look at infrastructure and real estate together, in the next vintage, the two combined could be as large as our historical flagship fund as European corporate. because if you look at infrastructure and real estate together in the next vintage the two combined could be as large as our historical flagship fund as european corporate These are fees on committed strategies, it's the same level of profitability. these are fees on committed strategies it's the same level of profitability That's a positive outlook. that's a positive outlook

Speaker 2: Brilliant. Thank you all for joining us. Thank you for attending today. This concludes the presentation. Brilliant. brilliant Thank you all for joining us. thank you all for joining us Thank you for attending today. thank you for attending today This concludes the presentation. this concludes the presentation

Speaker 1: Thank you all. Thank you all. thank you all