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HOPE BANCORP INC Call Transcript 2025

Jul 22, 2025

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HOPE BANCORP INC

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Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Angie Yang, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Thank you, Drew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Hope Bancorp 2025 Second Quarter Investor Conference Call. As usual, we will be using a slide presentation to accompany our discussion this morning, which is available in the presentations page of our Investor Relations website. Beginning on slide two, let me start with a brief statement regarding forward-looking remarks. The call today contains forward-looking projections regarding the future financial performance of the company and future events. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance. Actual outcomes and results may differ materially. Hope Bancorp assumes no obligation to revise any forward-looking projections that may be made on today's call. In addition, some of the information referenced on this call today are non-GAAP financial measures. For a more detailed description of the risk factors and a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures, please refer to the company's filings with the SEC, as well as the Safe Harbor statements in our press release issued this morning. Now, we have allotted one hour for this call. Presenting from the management side today will be Kevin Kim, Hope Bancorp's Chairman, President, and CEO, and Julianna Balicka, our Chief Financial Officer. Peter Koh, our Chief Operating Officer, is also here with us as usual and will be available for the Q&A session. With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin Kim. Kevin? Thank you, Angie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Let's begin on slide three with a brief overview of the quarter. The second quarter of 2025 was a milestone quarter for Hope Bancorp as we completed the acquisition of Territorial Bancorp, entering the strategically important market of Hawaii. We are excited about the opportunities that this presents. We also repositioned a portion of our legacy securities portfolio to enhance our interest income. Accordingly, we believe net income excluding notable items is more indicative of our fundamental performance this quarter. Net income for the 2025 second quarter, excluding notable items, totaled $24.5 million, up 7% from $22.9 million, excluding notable items in the preceding first quarter. Earnings per diluted share, excluding notable items, were $0.19 for both quarters as we issued 9 million shares with the Territorial transaction. As a result of the one-time loss incurred from selling lower-yielding legacy securities and from merger-related items, together with a one-time impact from a change in California's state tax apportionment law, we reported a net loss of $27.9 million for the second quarter. Pre-tax, pre-provision net revenue, excluding notable items, grew to $41.2 million in the second quarter of 2025, up 17% from $35.2 million in the 2025 first quarter. This reflected the impact of the Territorial acquisition, legacy loan growth, improvement in the cost of deposits, and core fee income growth. Moving on to slide four, all our capital ratios remain well above the requirements for well-capitalized financial institutions after the close of the Territorial acquisition. Our strong capital levels and ample liquidity provide us a healthy cushion with which to navigate various macroeconomic scenarios and support prudent balance sheet growth. Our Board of Directors declared a quarterly common stock dividend of $0.14 per share, payable on August 15 to stockholders of record as of August 1, 2025. Continuing to slide five, strengthening our deposit franchise remains a key priority. At June 30, 2025, our total deposits with the completion of the Territorial acquisition grew to $15.9 billion, an increase of 10% from the end of the prior quarter. The addition of Territorial's low-cost deposits drove a substantial improvement in our cost of deposits. In addition, the ongoing maturity and renewal of CDs to lower rates will contribute to the improvement in the cost of funds. Our average cost of interest-bearing deposits declined 37 basis points quarter over quarter, and our average cost of total deposits decreased by 22 basis points quarter over quarter. Similar to past quarters, we continue to reduce our brokered deposits exposure, which decreased by $183 million, or 19% quarter over quarter. Overall, the brokered deposits ratio declined to 5% of total deposits at June 30, 2025, down from 7% as of March 31, 2025, and 9% as of June 30, 2024. Moving on to slide six, at June 30, 2025, loans receivable of $14.4 billion were up 8% from the end of the prior quarter, reflecting the addition of Territorial Bancorp's loan portfolio, as well as strengthening organic loan production. Organic loan production increased 57% from the first quarter levels, with a well-diversified mix of originations across all our areas of lending. Stronger production has translated into modest net growth in our legacy portfolio. Similar to past quarters, we saw robust net growth from Hope Bancorp's residential mortgage team. In addition, commercial real estate loans were up slightly quarter over quarter. Late in the quarter, we experienced some short-term paydowns in certain commercial lines of credit, and those balances have largely rebuilt immediately after the quarter end. Overall, with the addition of Territorial Bancorp, our loan portfolio diversification has improved notably. Residential mortgage and other loans represented 16% of our total loans as of June 30, 2025, up from 9% at March 31, 2025. On slides seven and eight, we provide more details on our commercial real estate loans, which are well diversified by property type and granular in size. The loan-to-values remain low, with a weighted average of approximately 46% at June 30, 2025, and the profile of our commercial real estate portfolio has not changed meaningfully. Asset quality remains stable. With that, I will ask Julianna to provide additional details on our financial performance for the second quarter. Julianna? Thank you, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. Before I begin my remarks, let me just make a quick clarification to an earlier comment. We issued 7 million shares with the Territorial Bancorp transaction. Now, beginning on slide nine, our net interest income totaled $118 million for the second quarter of 2025, an increase of 17% from the prior quarter. This reflects the positive impact of the Territorial acquisition and organic loan growth, as well as an expansion in our net interest margin. On the bottom left quadrant of this slide, you can see the 2025 second quarter pre-tax acquisition accounting adjustments associated with the Territorial transaction. We will continue to recognize such adjustments on a quarterly basis through the amortization periods, as noted in the table. Accretion income from Territorial loans was $4 million in the second quarter. Accretion income is expected to become a recurring stable component of our interest income due to the long-dated nature of Territorial loans. The amortization period of this portfolio is currently estimated to be 12 years. I will point out that the prepayment rate on this portfolio is slower than what was initially estimated at merger close, in part due to changed forward interest rate curve expectations. For 2025, we are now expecting to recognize approximately $12 million of loan accretion income at approximately $4 million per quarter, compared with $14 million anticipated initially for 2025. In June, we sold a portion of our legacy investment securities available for sale with a fair value of $418 million and an aggregate weighted average book yield of 2.33%. The net proceeds from the sale were redeployed to purchase higher-yielding securities with an aggregate average market yield of 5.42% at the time of purchase. All else equal, the impact of this repositioning is expected to contribute approximately $12 million per year to interest income. Overall, our net interest margin increased by 15 basis points quarter over quarter to 2.69% for the second quarter of 2025. On slide 10, we show you the quarterly trends in our average loan and deposit balances and our weighted average yields and costs. On to slide 11, let's look at our non-interest income. Included in non-interest income is a $39 million net loss on the investment securities repositioning that I just discussed, which we consider a notable item. Excluding notable items, the trajectory in our non-interest income has been a highlight over the last year. Second quarter 2025 non-interest income of $15.9 million, excluding the notable loss, was up 44% year over year. Service fees on deposit accounts have continued to grow quarter over quarter. Swap fee income increased year over year by $1 million, and customer swap fee income increased quarter over quarter by $1 million and year over year by $1.6 million, reflecting improved customer demand. I'll also note that first quarter 2025 other income included a favorable valuation mark of $1.7 million related to the sale of non-SBA loans, and this did not recur in the second quarter. In the second quarter, we sold $67 million of SBA loans and recognized net gains on sale of $4 million. This compares with sales of $50 million in the first quarter and $3.1 million of net gains on sale. Some sales that were initially planned for the first quarter moved into the second quarter, so we look at this result on a first-half basis in aggregate. Moving on to non-interest expense in slide 12. Our non-interest expense totaled $109.5 million in the second quarter, including notable items, which largely comprise one-time merger-related costs. Excluding notable items, non-interest expense was $92 million in the 2025 second quarter, which compared with $81 million in the first quarter, also excluding notable items. The quarter over quarter increase generally reflected the addition of the Territorial operations to our organization. Our efficiency ratio, excluding notable items, improved quarter over quarter to 69.1%, compared with 69.8% for the first quarter of 2025. I will also mention a notable tax item this quarter. On June 27, 2025, California's state tax apportionment law changed. Consequently, the one-time remeasurement of our deferred tax asset costs us $4.9 million this quarter, which we include in notable items. On an ongoing basis, this tax law change will lower our company's effective tax rate by approximately 1%. Now, moving on to slide 13, I will review our asset quality. Our allowance coverage of loans was 1.04% as of June 30, 2025, compared with 1.11% as of March 31. The change in the coverage ratio primarily reflected the addition of the loans acquired from Territorial, which have a lower reserve requirement due to the lower credit risk profile of residential mortgage loans. Criticized loans declined by $34 million, or 8%, quarter over quarter to $415 million on June 30, 2025. Within that, special mention loans decreased by $47 million, or 26%. As a percentage of total loans, our criticized loan ratio was 2.87% at June 30, down from 3.36% at March 31, 2025. Non-performing assets as of June 30 totaled $113 million, representing 61 basis points of total assets, up from 49 basis points of assets as of March 31st. This fluctuation is largely driven by one commercial real estate loan, which is well secured by collateral property in a prime location. That charge-off totaled $12 million, or 33 basis points of average loans for the second quarter on an annualized basis, compared with $8 million, or annualized 25 basis points of average loans in the first quarter. The 2025 second quarter provision for credit losses was $15 million and included merger-related provision for credit losses of $4.5 million, comprising $3.9 million of day one provision for Territorial loans at acquisition close and $600,000 net write-off related to the exit of Hope's credit card portfolio. These items we consider as notable. With the acquisition, Hope is adopting Territorial's white-label credit card program. Excluding notable items, the second quarter provision for credit losses of $10.5 million compared with $5 million in the first quarter, reflecting second quarter net charge-offs, as well as a quarter over quarter increase in the allowance for unfunded loan commitments. With that, let me turn the call back to Kevin. Thank you, Julianna. Moving on to the outlook on slide 14, we continue to expect 2025 loan growth at a high single-digit % rate. Drivers in the second half of the year include continued improved frontline productivity, building on trends from the second quarter, as well as the impact of frontline hiring that we are continuing to make. In our outlook, we customarily use the forward interest rate curve, which currently assumes Fed funds target rate cuts in October and December of 2025. A quarter ago, cuts were expected in June, September, and December. All else equal, higher for longer interest rates negatively impact our net interest income. Accordingly, in our outlook, we continue to expect net interest income growth in the high single-digit % range for 2025. The negative impact of fewer Fed funds rate cuts on our net interest income and the updated, slightly lower amount of loan accretion income expected to be recognized in 2025 will be offset by the incremental increase in interest income from the legacy investment portfolio repositioning that we executed in June. We are increasing our year-over-year fee income growth expectations to be in the high 20% range for 2025, based on the year-to-date momentum across various fee business lines. This excludes notable items. Our outlook for non-interest expenses, excluding notable items, is unchanged at low double-digit % growth year over year. Lastly, we anticipate an effective tax rate of approximately 14% in both the third quarter and the fourth quarter. This reflects the California state tax apportionment law change and the impact and timing of the tax credit investments we are making. With that, Drew, please open up the call for questions. Yes, sir. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning. Morning. On your fee income guide, I think it looks like you're on pace to do roughly $63 million for the year. Sorry, I'm getting some feedback. $63 million for the year. I guess I know it sounded like SBA was a little heavy with a delay in sales in 2Q, but anything else going on in the second half within fee income that we should think about? Yeah, I think for second half fee income, hi, Matthew. The SBA basically, it's a question of timing. You take a look at one first quarter and second quarter and average it out, right? For the second half of the year, things that we can think about that are positive drivers, as we pointed out, customer swap fee income growth has been a real highlight vis-à-vis year ago levels. As a company, we've made a concentrated effort towards promoting that product and underwriting commercial real estate loans with a customer swap in place as opposed to the traditional fixed-rate loans. That is continuing to drive fee income growth. Also, as our loan growth momentum continues and production momentum continues to improve, we are looking at positive trends in other loan-related fee income, fee income-related origination fees, unused commitment fees, arrangement fees, that general bucket. Okay. Okay. Shifting to the margin, I didn't see a spot rate in your deck or in the release. If you had the spot rate on deposits at the end of June and what you're assuming within your outlook in terms of a cumulative beta on deposits through the cycle? The spot rate at the end of June was 2.93%. That's down, by the way, quarter to date by midpoint in July as well. It's continuing to improve. In terms of the full beta that we're assuming for the cycle, given the fact that rate cuts have delayed themselves towards October and December, we don't really, there's not much more beta to be had this year. There isn't any change to beta expectations vis-à-vis last quarter, but I will share that for the coming cut when that happens. We're planning on executing beta at a higher pace than we have in initial cuts, so 100% or better. Okay. At deposit product, obviously. The impact of CDs changes the total deposit beta calculation, as you know, since that's timing-based. Okay. Can you just remind us what % of your loans are truly floating that reset with each Fed cut, with Territorial now on board? About 42% of our loans is truly floating. Got it. Do you have, how much in the way of cost saves do you have left for Territorial so we can consider that going forward? In the Territorial franchise, we are very delighted to welcome the Territorial team members into the Bank of Hope family, and we have been focusing on strengthening those operations. As you well know, through other M&A, or generally in M&A, the upfront cost saves are executed in the beginning, which generally relate to corporate administrative cost cuts. As we have said in the past, we plan to focus on maintaining the continuity of the customer experience. Right now, I will say that there is still more integration and cost saves coming in the second half of the year, but as far as the magnitude, we will share that later in the year. Okay, I'll step back. Thank you. Thank you. Once again, if you have a question, please limit them to two, and then you can rejoin the queue. The next question comes from Gary Tenner with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Thanks. Good morning. A couple of my questions were already asked, but with the deal closed, CET1 ratio over 12% and the stock below tangible book, any thoughts here on a buyback as the dust settles on the transaction? Gary, we have been carefully evaluating our capital efficiencies, and the securities repositioning in June was part of our capital deployment strategies, and we are continuing to assess additional opportunities. I think I can say that much. Okay. Thanks. In terms of the conversion timing for Territorial, when is that going to occur? Conversion, meaning the system conversion, or? Yes, yes, or system conversion. Yeah. That is expected to be completed by the end of next year. We have tentatively decided to run a Territorial system for the time being because their system is very close to the expiration of their contract, and we are very close to that. Okay. Does that just push out the cost savings that you had talked about when the deal was announced? I think it was like 27% or so of Territorial's expenses. That just pushes that out deeper into next year? Not necessarily. The core costs and the IT costs were not the biggest component of Territorial's cost base. If you look at Territorial's disclosures and their proxy statements, you will see that the largest component of cost savings from that franchise would come from the form of executive compensation. Right. Okay, all right. Thank you. The next question comes from Kelly Motta with KBW. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning. Thanks for the question. I was hoping to circle back to your expectations for loan growth. On an organic basis, it was relatively modest this quarter, but you mentioned you're making some frontline hires to help drive the outlook ahead. I'm wondering if you could share a bit more as to what you're doing on that front and the cadence of their contributions, as I know it can take a bit of time in order for new hires to add to net growth. Thanks. We have been hiring very experienced, talented commercial and corporate bankers over the past several months, and we are continuing to do that. If you look at our loan production in the second quarter, we have a very meaningful increase from the first quarter. I think based upon the pipeline that we have at the beginning of the third quarter, our loan production will continue to increase over the rest of the year. In our payoff trends, our payoff in the second quarter was not as high as it was in the first quarter, but still, the payoffs and paydown trends remain at elevated levels. I think once the payoffs and paydowns have been stabilized and normalized with the added origination volumes that we can expect from these new bankers, the loan growth expectation in the third and fourth quarter is pretty doable for us. Got it. That's helpful. A second one from me on asset quality. You guys called out in your release the migration of a commercial real estate credit, though per disclosures, it's well secured and in a prime location. Just as you think about the overall credit picture and what you're seeing, I'm wondering if there's been any shift in how you're viewing asset quality of the portfolio relative to maybe a quarter ago when things were more uncertain with tariffs and just could provide us with a bit more color as to how you're feeling about credit and what you're watching more carefully? Thanks. Sure. This is Peter. Yeah, we're actively monitoring our portfolio. I think we're feeling cautiously optimistic. I think a lot of the high levels of uncertainty, although they're still around, and you know we're definitely monitoring the situation, but we do remain cautiously optimistic. I think if we look at our just overall level of potential problem loans, which is really represented by our level of criticized assets, you saw some meaningful decline this quarter. I think barring any unexpected volatilities in the macroeconomic environment, we do think that asset quality remains manageable and stable. Got it. I'll step back. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. The next question comes from Timothy Coffey with Janney. Please go ahead. Great. Morning, everybody. Morning. Yeah. Kevin, I'm going to, could you provide some commentary on the legacy borrowers in Hope Bancorp, the ones that are on the commercial side more towards the retail aspect of those businesses, how they did in the second quarter? I think at the beginning of the quarter, there might have been a lot of uncertainty around it, but it seems like that uncertainty started to evaporate by the end of the quarter. Actually, this is Peter. I can probably answer that. I think just the level of uncertainty was much higher when we first started the quarter in Q2. I think a little bit of that dust is settling down. There's obviously still a lot of uncertainty, but actually, I think as we've been monitoring the situation, the economy, and particularly the consumer base, has remained fairly resilient. Although there's still some risk there, and we're definitely being proactive around that, we really haven't seen much impact to our customer base as of yet. All right. Great. Thanks a lot for that, Peter. That was great. Thank you. Julianna, looking at the deposit portfolio, right? There seems to be a pretty good balance now between commercial and consumer balances. Is that something you'd like to continue maintaining, that kind of balance? Also, do you have a target for how much brokered deposit you'll need going forward? Our target loan-to-deposit ratio is to be up to 95%. We're obviously at below 91% there, so we do have some growth in excess liquidity at the moment. That should give you an idea for how much deposit growth we believe we need on an ongoing basis because we've also said in the past that on a medium-term basis, we would like to target loan growth in the high single digits, right? In terms of the customer-based balance, I think we have a pretty great balance right now between consumer and commercial loans. Our brokered deposits are down to 5% of total deposits. This is a pretty good place from which to focus on generating growth and expanding the customer wallet share and adding new relationships. Okay. Great. Those are my questions. Thank you very much. Thank you, Tim. We have a follow-up from Kelly Motta with KBW. Please go ahead. Hey, thanks for letting me jump back in. Just a quick modeling question. For Julianna, can you remind us how much more one-time costs are yet to be realized? Now with the conversion kicked out a bit, would those occur closer to conversion, or is there a cadence to expect for the back half of the year? Thanks. In the back half of the year, there'll be probably a couple million more of one-time costs in the third quarter, and then probably a couple million more in the fourth quarter just from various odds and ends, if you will. That's what I can share with you right now. Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. We have a follow-up from Gary Tenner from DA Davidson. Please go ahead. Thanks. I just wanted to ask, I apologize if I missed this, but in terms of the new production in the quarter, what was the average yield on new production? The average yield on the new production was approximately 6.76%. Great. Thank you. We have a follow-up from Matthew Clark from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. I'd say just another housekeeping item for next year. The tax rate, I know it's going to come down by 100 bps, but does that imply 24% for next year? No, I think that the tax rate for this year on the full-year basis is at the 21%. When you look at 2026, I think our tax year going forward beyond this year will be, you know, in that 20%. Again, not taking into account any tax law changes that may impact 2026 from the passage of recent federal legislation, okay? Just based on what is in place today, I would say that our tax rate going forward will be in that 20% to 21% range. It's down from the prior year because of the state apportionment tax law change, but also because we are continuing to invest in low-income housing and other tax credit investments to help lower our tax burden. Okay. Great. In the charge-offs this quarter, up a little bit, anything chunky in there or anything maybe unusual to call out? Just trying to get a sense for where that might go going forward. I know it's tough to say. Yeah. The charge-offs were up slightly this quarter. I do think that we remain at manageable levels. We still have some cleanup that we're undergoing right now. I would just look at sort of just portfolio management as the reason there. Going forward, as you have heard, I think our level of overall problem credits or criticized assets is going down. NPL did have a little uptick, but it's a real estate property that's well secured. On the asset quality front, we are, again, cautiously optimistic. I do think there is a roadmap here if the macroeconomic environment continues to support that, we will remain at stable, manageable levels going forward. Great. Thanks again. Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. We have a follow-up from Kelly Motta from KBW. Please go ahead. Thanks. Thanks for letting me hop in a third time now. Last question for me on the NII guidance. You maintained it, but you also have the benefit of the securities repositioning in the back half of the year. It seems like some of the guide changes related to taking out a rate cut, the accretion from Territorial, but on a core core basis, it still seems down. Wondering if you could share if that's really just the function of rates or if there's something else that is creating that variance, whether it's, you know, maybe some additional pressure on the deposit side or slower loan growth. Just wondering if you could provide some color as to what drove that? Yeah. I can add a couple of comments to that. I mean, if you think about it, when we provided the guidance in April, right, we were looking at a rate curve with a first cut starting in June. That would have given us two full quarters of a rate cut and then a cut in September, which would have given us like a full quarter of another cut, right? All else equal, as you can see in our, you know, 10-Q disclosures, 100 basis points impacts our NII by $20 million. You know, taking out, so, you know, model to model, if we took out the impact of the curve change from our kind of first quarter forecast, that would have taken out about a net $4 million of income. We were able to make that up and offset that with the securities portfolio repositioning, right? The change in the forward curve also impacted the pace of recognition of accretion. Higher for longer, all else equal, does slow down the prepayment speed. The upfront accretion in year one for us, we're now looking at $12 million versus $14 million. That kind of gets you to the math of maintaining the NII unchanged. Also, you know, we're continuing to improve the pace of originations, but quarter to quarter, the lended loan yield on originations did decrease a little bit. Continued kind of competitive pricing in the market for loan growth is also, you know, coming through. Basically, the maths on it are really, really curve-driven and accretion-driven. You can ask yourself, what can we do to, you know, kind of change that conversation without just waiting for another rate cut? We've been very proactive in working on our deposit mix and reducing our higher cost deposits, as you saw the continued improvement from brokered deposit exposure, et cetera. That's really, really helpful. Thanks. Thanks again. I'll step back for good now. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks. Thank you. Thank you, Drew. Once again, thank you all for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you in three months. So long, everyone. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

Speaker 7: Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Angie Yang, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Please note this event is being recorded. please note this event is being recorded I would now like to turn the conference over to Angie Yang, Director of Investor Relations. i would now like to turn the conference over to angie yang director of investor relations Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 9: Thank you, Drew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Hope Bancorp 2025 Second Quarter Investor Conference Call. As usual, we will be using a slide presentation to accompany our discussion this morning, which is available in the presentations page of our Investor Relations website. Beginning on slide two, let me start with a brief statement regarding forward-looking remarks. The call today contains forward-looking projections regarding the future financial performance of the company and future events. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance. Actual outcomes and results may differ materially. Hope Bancorp assumes no obligation to revise any forward-looking projections that may be made on today's call. In addition, some of the information referenced on this call today are non-GAAP financial measures. Thank you, Drew. thank you drew Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Hope Bancorp 2025 Second Quarter Investor Conference Call. good morning everyone and thank you for joining us for the hope bancorp 2025 second quarter investor conference call As usual, we will be using a slide presentation to accompany our discussion this morning, which is available in the presentations page of our Investor Relations website. as usual we will be using a slide presentation to accompany our discussion this morning which is available in the presentations page of our investor relations website Beginning on slide two, let me start with a brief statement regarding forward-looking remarks. beginning on slide two let me start with a brief statement regarding forward-looking remarks The call today contains forward-looking projections regarding the future financial performance of the company and future events. the call today contains forward-looking projections regarding the future financial performance of the company and future events Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance. forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance Actual outcomes and results may differ materially. actual outcomes and results may differ materially Hope Bancorp assumes no obligation to revise any forward-looking projections that may be made on today's call. hope bancorp assumes no obligation to revise any forward-looking projections that may be made on today's call In addition, some of the information referenced on this call today are non-GAAP financial measures. in addition some of the information referenced on this call today are non-gaap financial measures For a more detailed description of the risk factors and a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures, please refer to the company's filings with the SEC, as well as the Safe Harbor statements in our press release issued this morning. Now, we have allotted one hour for this call. Presenting from the management side today will be Kevin Kim, Hope Bancorp's Chairman, President, and CEO, and Julianna Balicka, our Chief Financial Officer. Peter Koh, our Chief Operating Officer, is also here with us as usual and will be available for the Q&A session. With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin Kim. Kevin? For a more detailed description of the risk factors and a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures, please refer to the company's filings with the SEC, as well as the Safe Harbor statements in our press release issued this morning. for a more detailed description of the risk factors and a reconciliation of gaap to non-gaap financial measures please refer to the company's filings with the sec as well as the safe harbor statements in our press release issued this morning Now, we have allotted one hour for this call. now we have allotted one hour for this call Presenting from the management side today will be Kevin Kim, Hope Bancorp's Chairman, President, and CEO, and Julianna Balicka, our Chief Financial Officer. presenting from the management side today will be kevin kim hope bancorp's chairman president and ceo and julianna balicka our chief financial officer Peter Koh, our Chief Operating Officer, is also here with us as usual and will be available for the Q&A session. peter koh our chief operating officer is also here with us as usual and will be available for the q&a session With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin Kim. with that let me turn the call over to kevin kim Kevin? kevin

Speaker 1: Thank you, Angie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Let's begin on slide three with a brief overview of the quarter. The second quarter of 2025 was a milestone quarter for Hope Bancorp as we completed the acquisition of Territorial Bancorp, entering the strategically important market of Hawaii. We are excited about the opportunities that this presents. We also repositioned a portion of our legacy securities portfolio to enhance our interest income. Accordingly, we believe net income excluding notable items is more indicative of our fundamental performance this quarter. Net income for the 2025 second quarter, excluding notable items, totaled $24.5 million, up 7% from $22.9 million, excluding notable items in the preceding first quarter. Earnings per diluted share, excluding notable items, were $0.19 for both quarters as we issued 9 million shares with the Territorial transaction. Thank you, Angie. thank you angie Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. good morning everyone and thank you for joining us today Let's begin on slide three with a brief overview of the quarter. let's begin on slide three with a brief overview of the quarter The second quarter of 2025 was a milestone quarter for Hope Bancorp as we completed the acquisition of Territorial Bancorp, entering the strategically important market of Hawaii. the second quarter of 2025 was a milestone quarter for hope bancorp as we completed the acquisition of territorial bancorp entering the strategically important market of hawaii We are excited about the opportunities that this presents. we are excited about the opportunities that this presents We also repositioned a portion of our legacy securities portfolio to enhance our interest income. we also repositioned a portion of our legacy securities portfolio to enhance our interest income Accordingly, we believe net income excluding notable items is more indicative of our fundamental performance this quarter. accordingly we believe net income excluding notable items is more indicative of our fundamental performance this quarter Net income for the 2025 second quarter, excluding notable items, totaled $24.5 million, up 7% from $22.9 million, excluding notable items in the preceding first quarter. net income for the 2025 second quarter excluding notable items totaled $24.5 million up 7% from $22.9 million excluding notable items in the preceding first quarter Earnings per diluted share, excluding notable items, were $0.19 for both quarters as we issued 9 million shares with the Territorial transaction. earnings per diluted share excluding notable items were $0.19 for both quarters as we issued 9 million shares with the territorial transaction As a result of the one-time loss incurred from selling lower-yielding legacy securities and from merger-related items, together with a one-time impact from a change in California's state tax apportionment law, we reported a net loss of $27.9 million for the second quarter. Pre-tax, pre-provision net revenue, excluding notable items, grew to $41.2 million in the second quarter of 2025, up 17% from $35.2 million in the 2025 first quarter. This reflected the impact of the Territorial acquisition, legacy loan growth, improvement in the cost of deposits, and core fee income growth. Moving on to slide four, all our capital ratios remain well above the requirements for well-capitalized financial institutions after the close of the Territorial acquisition. Our strong capital levels and ample liquidity provide us a healthy cushion with which to navigate various macroeconomic scenarios and support prudent balance sheet growth. As a result of the one-time loss incurred from selling lower-yielding legacy securities and from merger-related items, together with a one-time impact from a change in California's state tax apportionment law, we reported a net loss of $27.9 million for the second quarter. as a result of the one-time loss incurred from selling lower-yielding legacy securities and from merger-related items together with a one-time impact from a change in california's state tax apportionment law we reported a net loss of $27.9 million for the second quarter Pre-tax, pre-provision net revenue, excluding notable items, grew to $41.2 million in the second quarter of 2025, up 17% from $35.2 million in the 2025 first quarter. pre-tax pre-provision net revenue excluding notable items grew to $41.2 million in the second quarter of 2025 up 17% from $35.2 million in the 2025 first quarter This reflected the impact of the Territorial acquisition, legacy loan growth, improvement in the cost of deposits, and core fee income growth. this reflected the impact of the territorial acquisition legacy loan growth improvement in the cost of deposits and core fee income growth Moving on to slide four, all our capital ratios remain well above the requirements for well-capitalized financial institutions after the close of the Territorial acquisition. moving on to slide four all our capital ratios remain well above the requirements for well-capitalized financial institutions after the close of the territorial acquisition Our strong capital levels and ample liquidity provide us a healthy cushion with which to navigate various macroeconomic scenarios and support prudent balance sheet growth. our strong capital levels and ample liquidity provide us a healthy cushion with which to navigate various macroeconomic scenarios and support prudent balance sheet growth Our Board of Directors declared a quarterly common stock dividend of $0.14 per share, payable on August 15 to stockholders of record as of August 1, 2025. Continuing to slide five, strengthening our deposit franchise remains a key priority. At June 30, 2025, our total deposits with the completion of the Territorial acquisition grew to $15.9 billion, an increase of 10% from the end of the prior quarter. The addition of Territorial's low-cost deposits drove a substantial improvement in our cost of deposits. In addition, the ongoing maturity and renewal of CDs to lower rates will contribute to the improvement in the cost of funds. Our average cost of interest-bearing deposits declined 37 basis points quarter over quarter, and our average cost of total deposits decreased by 22 basis points quarter over quarter. Our Board of Directors declared a quarterly common stock dividend of $0.14 per share, payable on August 15 to stockholders of record as of August 1, 2025. our board of directors declared a quarterly common stock dividend of $0.14 per share payable on august 15 to stockholders of record as of august 1 2025 Continuing to slide five, strengthening our deposit franchise remains a key priority. continuing to slide five strengthening our deposit franchise remains a key priority At June 30, 2025, our total deposits with the completion of the Territorial acquisition grew to $15.9 billion, an increase of 10% from the end of the prior quarter. at june 30 2025 our total deposits with the completion of the territorial acquisition grew to $15.9 billion an increase of 10% from the end of the prior quarter The addition of Territorial's low-cost deposits drove a substantial improvement in our cost of deposits. the addition of territorial's low-cost deposits drove a substantial improvement in our cost of deposits In addition, the ongoing maturity and renewal of CDs to lower rates will contribute to the improvement in the cost of funds. in addition the ongoing maturity and renewal of cds to lower rates will contribute to the improvement in the cost of funds Our average cost of interest-bearing deposits declined 37 basis points quarter over quarter, and our average cost of total deposits decreased by 22 basis points quarter over quarter. our average cost of interest-bearing deposits declined 37 basis points quarter over quarter and our average cost of total deposits decreased by 22 basis points quarter over quarter Similar to past quarters, we continue to reduce our brokered deposits exposure, which decreased by $183 million, or 19% quarter over quarter. Overall, the brokered deposits ratio declined to 5% of total deposits at June 30, 2025, down from 7% as of March 31, 2025, and 9% as of June 30, 2024. Moving on to slide six, at June 30, 2025, loans receivable of $14.4 billion were up 8% from the end of the prior quarter, reflecting the addition of Territorial Bancorp's loan portfolio, as well as strengthening organic loan production. Organic loan production increased 57% from the first quarter levels, with a well-diversified mix of originations across all our areas of lending. Stronger production has translated into modest net growth in our legacy portfolio. Similar to past quarters, we saw robust net growth from Hope Bancorp's residential mortgage team. Similar to past quarters, we continue to reduce our brokered deposits exposure, which decreased by $183 million, or 19% quarter over quarter. similar to past quarters we continue to reduce our brokered deposits exposure which decreased by $183 million or 19% quarter over quarter Overall, the brokered deposits ratio declined to 5% of total deposits at June 30, 2025, down from 7% as of March 31, 2025, and 9% as of June 30, 2024. overall the brokered deposits ratio declined to 5% of total deposits at june 30 2025 down from 7% as of march 31 2025 and 9% as of june 30 2024 Moving on to slide six, at June 30, 2025, loans receivable of $14.4 billion were up 8% from the end of the prior quarter, reflecting the addition of Territorial Bancorp's loan portfolio, as well as strengthening organic loan production. moving on to slide six at june 30 2025 loans receivable of $14.4 billion were up 8% from the end of the prior quarter reflecting the addition of territorial bancorp's loan portfolio as well as strengthening organic loan production Organic loan production increased 57% from the first quarter levels, with a well-diversified mix of originations across all our areas of lending. organic loan production increased 57% from the first quarter levels with a well-diversified mix of originations across all our areas of lending Stronger production has translated into modest net growth in our legacy portfolio. stronger production has translated into modest net growth in our legacy portfolio Similar to past quarters, we saw robust net growth from Hope Bancorp's residential mortgage team. similar to past quarters we saw robust net growth from hope bancorp's residential mortgage team In addition, commercial real estate loans were up slightly quarter over quarter. Late in the quarter, we experienced some short-term paydowns in certain commercial lines of credit, and those balances have largely rebuilt immediately after the quarter end. Overall, with the addition of Territorial Bancorp, our loan portfolio diversification has improved notably. Residential mortgage and other loans represented 16% of our total loans as of June 30, 2025, up from 9% at March 31, 2025. On slides seven and eight, we provide more details on our commercial real estate loans, which are well diversified by property type and granular in size. The loan-to-values remain low, with a weighted average of approximately 46% at June 30, 2025, and the profile of our commercial real estate portfolio has not changed meaningfully. Asset quality remains stable. In addition, commercial real estate loans were up slightly quarter over quarter. in addition commercial real estate loans were up slightly quarter over quarter Late in the quarter, we experienced some short-term paydowns in certain commercial lines of credit, and those balances have largely rebuilt immediately after the quarter end. late in the quarter we experienced some short-term paydowns in certain commercial lines of credit and those balances have largely rebuilt immediately after the quarter end Overall, with the addition of Territorial Bancorp, our loan portfolio diversification has improved notably. overall with the addition of territorial bancorp our loan portfolio diversification has improved notably Residential mortgage and other loans represented 16% of our total loans as of June 30, 2025, up from 9% at March 31, 2025. residential mortgage and other loans represented 16% of our total loans as of june 30 2025 up from 9% at march 31 2025 On slides seven and eight, we provide more details on our commercial real estate loans, which are well diversified by property type and granular in size. on slides seven and eight we provide more details on our commercial real estate loans which are well diversified by property type and granular in size The loan-to-values remain low, with a weighted average of approximately 46% at June 30, 2025, and the profile of our commercial real estate portfolio has not changed meaningfully. the loan-to-values remain low with a weighted average of approximately 46% at june 30 2025 and the profile of our commercial real estate portfolio has not changed meaningfully Asset quality remains stable. asset quality remains stable With that, I will ask Julianna to provide additional details on our financial performance for the second quarter. Julianna? With that, I will ask Julianna to provide additional details on our financial performance for the second quarter. with that i will ask julianna to provide additional details on our financial performance for the second quarter Julianna? julianna

Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. Before I begin my remarks, let me just make a quick clarification to an earlier comment. We issued 7 million shares with the Territorial Bancorp transaction. Now, beginning on slide nine, our net interest income totaled $118 million for the second quarter of 2025, an increase of 17% from the prior quarter. This reflects the positive impact of the Territorial acquisition and organic loan growth, as well as an expansion in our net interest margin. On the bottom left quadrant of this slide, you can see the 2025 second quarter pre-tax acquisition accounting adjustments associated with the Territorial transaction. We will continue to recognize such adjustments on a quarterly basis through the amortization periods, as noted in the table. Accretion income from Territorial loans was $4 million in the second quarter. Thank you, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. thank you kevin and good morning everyone Before I begin my remarks, let me just make a quick clarification to an earlier comment. before i begin my remarks let me just make a quick clarification to an earlier comment We issued 7 million shares with the Territorial Bancorp transaction. we issued 7 million shares with the territorial bancorp transaction Now, beginning on slide nine, our net interest income totaled $118 million for the second quarter of 2025, an increase of 17% from the prior quarter. now beginning on slide nine our net interest income totaled $118 million for the second quarter of 2025 an increase of 17% from the prior quarter This reflects the positive impact of the Territorial acquisition and organic loan growth, as well as an expansion in our net interest margin. this reflects the positive impact of the territorial acquisition and organic loan growth as well as an expansion in our net interest margin On the bottom left quadrant of this slide, you can see the 2025 second quarter pre-tax acquisition accounting adjustments associated with the Territorial transaction. on the bottom left quadrant of this slide you can see the 2025 second quarter pre-tax acquisition accounting adjustments associated with the territorial transaction We will continue to recognize such adjustments on a quarterly basis through the amortization periods, as noted in the table. we will continue to recognize such adjustments on a quarterly basis through the amortization periods as noted in the table Accretion income from Territorial loans was $4 million in the second quarter. accretion income from territorial loans was $4 million in the second quarter Accretion income is expected to become a recurring stable component of our interest income due to the long-dated nature of Territorial loans. The amortization period of this portfolio is currently estimated to be 12 years. I will point out that the prepayment rate on this portfolio is slower than what was initially estimated at merger close, in part due to changed forward interest rate curve expectations. For 2025, we are now expecting to recognize approximately $12 million of loan accretion income at approximately $4 million per quarter, compared with $14 million anticipated initially for 2025. In June, we sold a portion of our legacy investment securities available for sale with a fair value of $418 million and an aggregate weighted average book yield of 2.33%. The net proceeds from the sale were redeployed to purchase higher-yielding securities with an aggregate average market yield of 5.42% at the time of purchase. Accretion income is expected to become a recurring stable component of our interest income due to the long-dated nature of Territorial loans. accretion income is expected to become a recurring stable component of our interest income due to the long-dated nature of territorial loans The amortization period of this portfolio is currently estimated to be 12 years. the amortization period of this portfolio is currently estimated to be 12 years I will point out that the prepayment rate on this portfolio is slower than what was initially estimated at merger close, in part due to changed forward interest rate curve expectations. i will point out that the prepayment rate on this portfolio is slower than what was initially estimated at merger close in part due to changed forward interest rate curve expectations For 2025, we are now expecting to recognize approximately $12 million of loan accretion income at approximately $4 million per quarter, compared with $14 million anticipated initially for 2025. for 2025 we are now expecting to recognize approximately $12 million of loan accretion income at approximately $4 million per quarter compared with $14 million anticipated initially for 2025 In June, we sold a portion of our legacy investment securities available for sale with a fair value of $418 million and an aggregate weighted average book yield of 2.33%. in june we sold a portion of our legacy investment securities available for sale with a fair value of $418 million and an aggregate weighted average book yield of 2.33% The net proceeds from the sale were redeployed to purchase higher-yielding securities with an aggregate average market yield of 5.42% at the time of purchase. the net proceeds from the sale were redeployed to purchase higher-yielding securities with an aggregate average market yield of 5.42% at the time of purchase All else equal, the impact of this repositioning is expected to contribute approximately $12 million per year to interest income. Overall, our net interest margin increased by 15 basis points quarter over quarter to 2.69% for the second quarter of 2025. On slide 10, we show you the quarterly trends in our average loan and deposit balances and our weighted average yields and costs. On to slide 11, let's look at our non-interest income. Included in non-interest income is a $39 million net loss on the investment securities repositioning that I just discussed, which we consider a notable item. Excluding notable items, the trajectory in our non-interest income has been a highlight over the last year. Second quarter 2025 non-interest income of $15.9 million, excluding the notable loss, was up 44% year over year. Service fees on deposit accounts have continued to grow quarter over quarter. All else equal, the impact of this repositioning is expected to contribute approximately $12 million per year to interest income. all else equal the impact of this repositioning is expected to contribute approximately $12 million per year to interest income Overall, our net interest margin increased by 15 basis points quarter over quarter to 2.69% for the second quarter of 2025. overall our net interest margin increased by 15 basis points quarter over quarter to 2.69% for the second quarter of 2025 On slide 10, we show you the quarterly trends in our average loan and deposit balances and our weighted average yields and costs. on slide 10 we show you the quarterly trends in our average loan and deposit balances and our weighted average yields and costs On to slide 11, let's look at our non-interest income. on to slide 11 let's look at our non-interest income Included in non-interest income is a $39 million net loss on the investment securities repositioning that I just discussed, which we consider a notable item. included in non-interest income is a $39 million net loss on the investment securities repositioning that i just discussed which we consider a notable item Excluding notable items, the trajectory in our non-interest income has been a highlight over the last year. excluding notable items the trajectory in our non-interest income has been a highlight over the last year Second quarter 2025 non-interest income of $15.9 million, excluding the notable loss, was up 44% year over year. second quarter 2025 non-interest income of $15.9 million excluding the notable loss was up 44% year over year Service fees on deposit accounts have continued to grow quarter over quarter. service fees on deposit accounts have continued to grow quarter over quarter Swap fee income increased year over year by $1 million, and customer swap fee income increased quarter over quarter by $1 million and year over year by $1.6 million, reflecting improved customer demand. I'll also note that first quarter 2025 other income included a favorable valuation mark of $1.7 million related to the sale of non-SBA loans, and this did not recur in the second quarter. In the second quarter, we sold $67 million of SBA loans and recognized net gains on sale of $4 million. This compares with sales of $50 million in the first quarter and $3.1 million of net gains on sale. Some sales that were initially planned for the first quarter moved into the second quarter, so we look at this result on a first-half basis in aggregate. Moving on to non-interest expense in slide 12. Swap fee income increased year over year by $1 million, and customer swap fee income increased quarter over quarter by $1 million and year over year by $1.6 million, reflecting improved customer demand. swap fee income increased year over year by $1 million and customer swap fee income increased quarter over quarter by $1 million and year over year by $1.6 million reflecting improved customer demand I'll also note that first quarter 2025 other income included a favorable valuation mark of $1.7 million related to the sale of non-SBA loans, and this did not recur in the second quarter. i'll also note that first quarter 2025 other income included a favorable valuation mark of $1.7 million related to the sale of non-sba loans and this did not recur in the second quarter In the second quarter, we sold $67 million of SBA loans and recognized net gains on sale of $4 million. in the second quarter we sold $67 million of sba loans and recognized net gains on sale of $4 million This compares with sales of $50 million in the first quarter and $3.1 million of net gains on sale. this compares with sales of $50 million in the first quarter and $3.1 million of net gains on sale Some sales that were initially planned for the first quarter moved into the second quarter, so we look at this result on a first-half basis in aggregate. some sales that were initially planned for the first quarter moved into the second quarter so we look at this result on a first-half basis in aggregate Moving on to non-interest expense in slide 12. moving on to non-interest expense in slide 12 Our non-interest expense totaled $109.5 million in the second quarter, including notable items, which largely comprise one-time merger-related costs. Excluding notable items, non-interest expense was $92 million in the 2025 second quarter, which compared with $81 million in the first quarter, also excluding notable items. The quarter over quarter increase generally reflected the addition of the Territorial operations to our organization. Our efficiency ratio, excluding notable items, improved quarter over quarter to 69.1%, compared with 69.8% for the first quarter of 2025. I will also mention a notable tax item this quarter. On June 27, 2025, California's state tax apportionment law changed. Consequently, the one-time remeasurement of our deferred tax asset costs us $4.9 million this quarter, which we include in notable items. On an ongoing basis, this tax law change will lower our company's effective tax rate by approximately 1%. Our non-interest expense totaled $109.5 million in the second quarter, including notable items, which largely comprise one-time merger-related costs. our non-interest expense totaled $109.5 million in the second quarter including notable items which largely comprise one-time merger-related costs Excluding notable items, non-interest expense was $92 million in the 2025 second quarter, which compared with $81 million in the first quarter, also excluding notable items. excluding notable items non-interest expense was $92 million in the 2025 second quarter which compared with $81 million in the first quarter also excluding notable items The quarter over quarter increase generally reflected the addition of the Territorial operations to our organization. the quarter over quarter increase generally reflected the addition of the territorial operations to our organization Our efficiency ratio, excluding notable items, improved quarter over quarter to 69.1%, compared with 69.8% for the first quarter of 2025. our efficiency ratio excluding notable items improved quarter over quarter to 69.1% compared with 69.8% for the first quarter of 2025 I will also mention a notable tax item this quarter. i will also mention a notable tax item this quarter On June 27, 2025, California's state tax apportionment law changed. on june 27 2025 california's state tax apportionment law changed Consequently, the one-time remeasurement of our deferred tax asset costs us $4.9 million this quarter, which we include in notable items. consequently the one-time remeasurement of our deferred tax asset costs us $4.9 million this quarter which we include in notable items On an ongoing basis, this tax law change will lower our company's effective tax rate by approximately 1%. on an ongoing basis this tax law change will lower our company's effective tax rate by approximately 1% Now, moving on to slide 13, I will review our asset quality. Our allowance coverage of loans was 1.04% as of June 30, 2025, compared with 1.11% as of March 31. The change in the coverage ratio primarily reflected the addition of the loans acquired from Territorial, which have a lower reserve requirement due to the lower credit risk profile of residential mortgage loans. Criticized loans declined by $34 million, or 8%, quarter over quarter to $415 million on June 30, 2025. Within that, special mention loans decreased by $47 million, or 26%. As a percentage of total loans, our criticized loan ratio was 2.87% at June 30, down from 3.36% at March 31, 2025. Non-performing assets as of June 30 totaled $113 million, representing 61 basis points of total assets, up from 49 basis points of assets as of March 31st. Now, moving on to slide 13, I will review our asset quality. now moving on to slide 13 i will review our asset quality Our allowance coverage of loans was 1.04% as of June 30, 2025, compared with 1.11% as of March 31. our allowance coverage of loans was 1.04% as of june 30 2025 compared with 1.11% as of march 31 The change in the coverage ratio primarily reflected the addition of the loans acquired from Territorial, which have a lower reserve requirement due to the lower credit risk profile of residential mortgage loans. the change in the coverage ratio primarily reflected the addition of the loans acquired from territorial which have a lower reserve requirement due to the lower credit risk profile of residential mortgage loans Criticized loans declined by $34 million, or 8%, quarter over quarter to $415 million on June 30, 2025. criticized loans declined by $34 million or 8% quarter over quarter to $415 million on june 30 2025 Within that, special mention loans decreased by $47 million, or 26%. within that special mention loans decreased by $47 million or 26% As a percentage of total loans, our criticized loan ratio was 2.87% at June 30, down from 3.36% at March 31, 2025. as a percentage of total loans our criticized loan ratio was 2.87% at june 30 down from 3.36% at march 31 2025 Non-performing assets as of June 30 totaled $113 million, representing 61 basis points of total assets, up from 49 basis points of assets as of March 31st. non-performing assets as of june 30 totaled $113 million representing 61 basis points of total assets up from 49 basis points of assets as of march 31st This fluctuation is largely driven by one commercial real estate loan, which is well secured by collateral property in a prime location. That charge-off totaled $12 million, or 33 basis points of average loans for the second quarter on an annualized basis, compared with $8 million, or annualized 25 basis points of average loans in the first quarter. The 2025 second quarter provision for credit losses was $15 million and included merger-related provision for credit losses of $4.5 million, comprising $3.9 million of day one provision for Territorial loans at acquisition close and $600,000 net write-off related to the exit of Hope's credit card portfolio. These items we consider as notable. With the acquisition, Hope is adopting Territorial's white-label credit card program. This fluctuation is largely driven by one commercial real estate loan, which is well secured by collateral property in a prime location. this fluctuation is largely driven by one commercial real estate loan which is well secured by collateral property in a prime location That charge-off totaled $12 million, or 33 basis points of average loans for the second quarter on an annualized basis, compared with $8 million, or annualized 25 basis points of average loans in the first quarter. that charge-off totaled $12 million or 33 basis points of average loans for the second quarter on an annualized basis compared with $8 million or annualized 25 basis points of average loans in the first quarter The 2025 second quarter provision for credit losses was $15 million and included merger-related provision for credit losses of $4.5 million, comprising $3.9 million of day one provision for Territorial loans at acquisition close and $600,000 net write-off related to the exit of Hope's credit card portfolio. the 2025 second quarter provision for credit losses was $15 million and included merger-related provision for credit losses of $4.5 million comprising $3.9 million of day one provision for territorial loans at acquisition close and $600,000 net write-off related to the exit of hope's credit card portfolio These items we consider as notable. these items we consider as notable With the acquisition, Hope is adopting Territorial's white-label credit card program. with the acquisition hope is adopting territorial's white-label credit card program Excluding notable items, the second quarter provision for credit losses of $10.5 million compared with $5 million in the first quarter, reflecting second quarter net charge-offs, as well as a quarter over quarter increase in the allowance for unfunded loan commitments. With that, let me turn the call back to Kevin. Excluding notable items, the second quarter provision for credit losses of $10.5 million compared with $5 million in the first quarter, reflecting second quarter net charge-offs, as well as a quarter over quarter increase in the allowance for unfunded loan commitments. excluding notable items the second quarter provision for credit losses of $10.5 million compared with $5 million in the first quarter reflecting second quarter net charge-offs as well as a quarter over quarter increase in the allowance for unfunded loan commitments With that, let me turn the call back to Kevin. with that let me turn the call back to kevin

Speaker 1: Thank you, Julianna. Moving on to the outlook on slide 14, we continue to expect 2025 loan growth at a high single-digit % rate. Drivers in the second half of the year include continued improved frontline productivity, building on trends from the second quarter, as well as the impact of frontline hiring that we are continuing to make. In our outlook, we customarily use the forward interest rate curve, which currently assumes Fed funds target rate cuts in October and December of 2025. A quarter ago, cuts were expected in June, September, and December. All else equal, higher for longer interest rates negatively impact our net interest income. Accordingly, in our outlook, we continue to expect net interest income growth in the high single-digit % range for 2025. Thank you, Julianna. thank you julianna Moving on to the outlook on slide 14, we continue to expect 2025 loan growth at a high single-digit % rate. moving on to the outlook on slide 14 we continue to expect 2025 loan growth at a high single-digit % rate Drivers in the second half of the year include continued improved frontline productivity, building on trends from the second quarter, as well as the impact of frontline hiring that we are continuing to make. drivers in the second half of the year include continued improved frontline productivity building on trends from the second quarter as well as the impact of frontline hiring that we are continuing to make In our outlook, we customarily use the forward interest rate curve, which currently assumes Fed funds target rate cuts in October and December of 2025. in our outlook we customarily use the forward interest rate curve which currently assumes fed funds target rate cuts in october and december of 2025 A quarter ago, cuts were expected in June, September, and December. a quarter ago cuts were expected in june september and december All else equal, higher for longer interest rates negatively impact our net interest income. all else equal higher for longer interest rates negatively impact our net interest income Accordingly, in our outlook, we continue to expect net interest income growth in the high single-digit % range for 2025. accordingly in our outlook we continue to expect net interest income growth in the high single-digit % range for 2025 The negative impact of fewer Fed funds rate cuts on our net interest income and the updated, slightly lower amount of loan accretion income expected to be recognized in 2025 will be offset by the incremental increase in interest income from the legacy investment portfolio repositioning that we executed in June. We are increasing our year-over-year fee income growth expectations to be in the high 20% range for 2025, based on the year-to-date momentum across various fee business lines. This excludes notable items. Our outlook for non-interest expenses, excluding notable items, is unchanged at low double-digit % growth year over year. Lastly, we anticipate an effective tax rate of approximately 14% in both the third quarter and the fourth quarter. This reflects the California state tax apportionment law change and the impact and timing of the tax credit investments we are making. The negative impact of fewer Fed funds rate cuts on our net interest income and the updated, slightly lower amount of loan accretion income expected to be recognized in 2025 will be offset by the incremental increase in interest income from the legacy investment portfolio repositioning that we executed in June. the negative impact of fewer fed funds rate cuts on our net interest income and the updated slightly lower amount of loan accretion income expected to be recognized in 2025 will be offset by the incremental increase in interest income from the legacy investment portfolio repositioning that we executed in june We are increasing our year-over-year fee income growth expectations to be in the high 20% range for 2025, based on the year-to-date momentum across various fee business lines. we are increasing our year-over-year fee income growth expectations to be in the high 20% range for 2025 based on the year-to-date momentum across various fee business lines This excludes notable items. this excludes notable items Our outlook for non-interest expenses, excluding notable items, is unchanged at low double-digit % growth year over year. our outlook for non-interest expenses excluding notable items is unchanged at low double-digit % growth year over year Lastly, we anticipate an effective tax rate of approximately 14% in both the third quarter and the fourth quarter. lastly we anticipate an effective tax rate of approximately 14% in both the third quarter and the fourth quarter This reflects the California state tax apportionment law change and the impact and timing of the tax credit investments we are making. this reflects the california state tax apportionment law change and the impact and timing of the tax credit investments we are making With that, Drew, please open up the call for questions. With that, Drew, please open up the call for questions. with that drew please open up the call for questions

Speaker 7: Yes, sir. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Yes, sir. yes sir We will now begin the question and answer session. we will now begin the question and answer session To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. to ask a question you may press star then one on your telephone keypad If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. if you are using a speakerphone please pick up your handset before pressing the keys If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. if at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question please press star then two At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. at this time we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster The first question comes from Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler. the first question comes from matthew clark with piper sandler Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 3: Hey, good morning. Hey, good morning. hey good morning

Speaker 1: Morning. Morning. morning

Speaker 3: On your fee income guide, I think it looks like you're on pace to do roughly $63 million for the year. Sorry, I'm getting some feedback. $63 million for the year. I guess I know it sounded like SBA was a little heavy with a delay in sales in 2Q, but anything else going on in the second half within fee income that we should think about? On your fee income guide, I think it looks like you're on pace to do roughly $63 million for the year. on your fee income guide i think it looks like you're on pace to do roughly $63 million for the year Sorry, I'm getting some feedback. $63 million for the year. sorry i'm getting some feedback $63 million for the year I guess I know it sounded like SBA was a little heavy with a delay in sales in 2Q, but anything else going on in the second half within fee income that we should think about? i guess i know it sounded like sba was a little heavy with a delay in sales in 2q but anything else going on in the second half within fee income that we should think about

Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for second half fee income, hi, Matthew. The SBA basically, it's a question of timing. You take a look at one first quarter and second quarter and average it out, right? For the second half of the year, things that we can think about that are positive drivers, as we pointed out, customer swap fee income growth has been a real highlight vis-à-vis year ago levels. As a company, we've made a concentrated effort towards promoting that product and underwriting commercial real estate loans with a customer swap in place as opposed to the traditional fixed-rate loans. That is continuing to drive fee income growth. Also, as our loan growth momentum continues and production momentum continues to improve, we are looking at positive trends in other loan-related fee income, fee income-related origination fees, unused commitment fees, arrangement fees, that general bucket. Yeah, I think for second half fee income, hi, Matthew. yeah i think for second half fee income hi matthew The SBA basically, it's a question of timing. the sba basically it's a question of timing You take a look at one first quarter and second quarter and average it out, right? you take a look at one first quarter and second quarter and average it out right For the second half of the year, things that we can think about that are positive drivers, as we pointed out, customer swap fee income growth has been a real highlight vis-à-vis year ago levels. for the second half of the year things that we can think about that are positive drivers as we pointed out customer swap fee income growth has been a real highlight vis-à-vis year ago levels As a company, we've made a concentrated effort towards promoting that product and underwriting commercial real estate loans with a customer swap in place as opposed to the traditional fixed-rate loans. as a company we've made a concentrated effort towards promoting that product and underwriting commercial real estate loans with a customer swap in place as opposed to the traditional fixed-rate loans That is continuing to drive fee income growth. that is continuing to drive fee income growth Also, as our loan growth momentum continues and production momentum continues to improve, we are looking at positive trends in other loan-related fee income, fee income-related origination fees, unused commitment fees, arrangement fees, that general bucket. also as our loan growth momentum continues and production momentum continues to improve we are looking at positive trends in other loan-related fee income fee income-related origination fees unused commitment fees arrangement fees that general bucket

Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. Shifting to the margin, I didn't see a spot rate in your deck or in the release. If you had the spot rate on deposits at the end of June and what you're assuming within your outlook in terms of a cumulative beta on deposits through the cycle? Okay. okay Okay. okay Shifting to the margin, I didn't see a spot rate in your deck or in the release. shifting to the margin i didn't see a spot rate in your deck or in the release If you had the spot rate on deposits at the end of June and what you're assuming within your outlook in terms of a cumulative beta on deposits through the cycle? if you had the spot rate on deposits at the end of june and what you're assuming within your outlook in terms of a cumulative beta on deposits through the cycle

Speaker 2: The spot rate at the end of June was 2.93%. That's down, by the way, quarter to date by midpoint in July as well. It's continuing to improve. In terms of the full beta that we're assuming for the cycle, given the fact that rate cuts have delayed themselves towards October and December, we don't really, there's not much more beta to be had this year. There isn't any change to beta expectations vis-à-vis last quarter, but I will share that for the coming cut when that happens. We're planning on executing beta at a higher pace than we have in initial cuts, so 100% or better. The spot rate at the end of June was 2.93%. the spot rate at the end of june was 2.93% That's down, by the way, quarter to date by midpoint in July as well. that's down by the way quarter to date by midpoint in july as well It's continuing to improve. it's continuing to improve In terms of the full beta that we're assuming for the cycle, given the fact that rate cuts have delayed themselves towards October and December, we don't really, there's not much more beta to be had this year. in terms of the full beta that we're assuming for the cycle given the fact that rate cuts have delayed themselves towards october and december we don't really there's not much more beta to be had this year There isn't any change to beta expectations vis-à-vis last quarter, but I will share that for the coming cut when that happens. there isn't any change to beta expectations vis-à-vis last quarter but i will share that for the coming cut when that happens We're planning on executing beta at a higher pace than we have in initial cuts, so 100% or better. we're planning on executing beta at a higher pace than we have in initial cuts so 100% or better

Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. okay

Speaker 2: At deposit product, obviously. The impact of CDs changes the total deposit beta calculation, as you know, since that's timing-based. At deposit product, obviously. at deposit product obviously The impact of CDs changes the total deposit beta calculation, as you know, since that's timing-based. the impact of cds changes the total deposit beta calculation as you know since that's timing-based

Speaker 3: Okay. Can you just remind us what % of your loans are truly floating that reset with each Fed cut, with Territorial now on board? Okay. okay Can you just remind us what % of your loans are truly floating that reset with each Fed cut, with Territorial now on board? can you just remind us what % of your loans are truly floating that reset with each fed cut with territorial now on board

Speaker 2: About 42% of our loans is truly floating. About 42% of our loans is truly floating. about 42% of our loans is truly floating

Speaker 3: Got it. Do you have, how much in the way of cost saves do you have left for Territorial so we can consider that going forward? Got it. got it Do you have, how much in the way of cost saves do you have left for Territorial so we can consider that going forward? do you have how much in the way of cost saves do you have left for territorial so we can consider that going forward

Speaker 2: In the Territorial franchise, we are very delighted to welcome the Territorial team members into the Bank of Hope family, and we have been focusing on strengthening those operations. As you well know, through other M&A, or generally in M&A, the upfront cost saves are executed in the beginning, which generally relate to corporate administrative cost cuts. As we have said in the past, we plan to focus on maintaining the continuity of the customer experience. Right now, I will say that there is still more integration and cost saves coming in the second half of the year, but as far as the magnitude, we will share that later in the year. In the Territorial franchise, we are very delighted to welcome the Territorial team members into the Bank of Hope family, and we have been focusing on strengthening those operations. in the territorial franchise we are very delighted to welcome the territorial team members into the bank of hope family and we have been focusing on strengthening those operations As you well know, through other M&A, or generally in M&A, the upfront cost saves are executed in the beginning, which generally relate to corporate administrative cost cuts. as you well know through other m&a or generally in m&a the upfront cost saves are executed in the beginning which generally relate to corporate administrative cost cuts As we have said in the past, we plan to focus on maintaining the continuity of the customer experience. as we have said in the past we plan to focus on maintaining the continuity of the customer experience Right now, I will say that there is still more integration and cost saves coming in the second half of the year, but as far as the magnitude, we will share that later in the year. right now i will say that there is still more integration and cost saves coming in the second half of the year but as far as the magnitude we will share that later in the year

Speaker 3: Okay, I'll step back. Thank you. Okay, I'll step back. okay i'll step back Thank you. thank you

Speaker 7: Thank you. Once again, if you have a question, please limit them to two, and then you can rejoin the queue. The next question comes from Gary Tenner with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Thank you. thank you Once again, if you have a question, please limit them to two, and then you can rejoin the queue. once again if you have a question please limit them to two and then you can rejoin the queue The next question comes from Gary Tenner with D.A. the next question comes from gary tenner with d.a Davidson. davidson Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 4: Thanks. Good morning. A couple of my questions were already asked, but with the deal closed, CET1 ratio over 12% and the stock below tangible book, any thoughts here on a buyback as the dust settles on the transaction? Thanks. thanks Good morning. good morning A couple of my questions were already asked, but with the deal closed, CET1 ratio over 12% and the stock below tangible book, any thoughts here on a buyback as the dust settles on the transaction? a couple of my questions were already asked but with the deal closed cet1 ratio over 12% and the stock below tangible book any thoughts here on a buyback as the dust settles on the transaction

Speaker 1: Gary, we have been carefully evaluating our capital efficiencies, and the securities repositioning in June was part of our capital deployment strategies, and we are continuing to assess additional opportunities. I think I can say that much. Gary, we have been carefully evaluating our capital efficiencies, and the securities repositioning in June was part of our capital deployment strategies, and we are continuing to assess additional opportunities. gary we have been carefully evaluating our capital efficiencies and the securities repositioning in june was part of our capital deployment strategies and we are continuing to assess additional opportunities I think I can say that much. i think i can say that much

Speaker 4: Okay. Thanks. In terms of the conversion timing for Territorial, when is that going to occur? Okay. okay Thanks. thanks In terms of the conversion timing for Territorial, when is that going to occur? in terms of the conversion timing for territorial when is that going to occur

Speaker 1: Conversion, meaning the system conversion, or? Conversion, meaning the system conversion, or? conversion meaning the system conversion or

Speaker 4: Yes, yes, or system conversion. Yes, yes, or system conversion. yes yes or system conversion

Speaker 1: Yeah. That is expected to be completed by the end of next year. We have tentatively decided to run a Territorial system for the time being because their system is very close to the expiration of their contract, and we are very close to that. Yeah. yeah That is expected to be completed by the end of next year. that is expected to be completed by the end of next year We have tentatively decided to run a Territorial system for the time being because their system is very close to the expiration of their contract, and we are very close to that. we have tentatively decided to run a territorial system for the time being because their system is very close to the expiration of their contract and we are very close to that

Speaker 4: Okay. Does that just push out the cost savings that you had talked about when the deal was announced? I think it was like 27% or so of Territorial's expenses. That just pushes that out deeper into next year? Okay. okay Does that just push out the cost savings that you had talked about when the deal was announced? does that just push out the cost savings that you had talked about when the deal was announced I think it was like 27% or so of Territorial's expenses. i think it was like 27% or so of territorial's expenses That just pushes that out deeper into next year? that just pushes that out deeper into next year

Speaker 2: Not necessarily. The core costs and the IT costs were not the biggest component of Territorial's cost base. If you look at Territorial's disclosures and their proxy statements, you will see that the largest component of cost savings from that franchise would come from the form of executive compensation. Not necessarily. not necessarily The core costs and the IT costs were not the biggest component of Territorial's cost base. If you look at Territorial's disclosures and their proxy statements, you will see that the largest component of cost savings from that franchise would come from the form of executive compensation. the core costs and the it costs were not the biggest component of territorial's cost base. if you look at territorial's disclosures and their proxy statements you will see that the largest component of cost savings from that franchise would come from the form of executive compensation

Speaker 4: Right. Okay, all right. Thank you. Right. right Okay, all right. okay all right Thank you. thank you

Speaker 7: The next question comes from Kelly Motta with KBW. Please go ahead. The next question comes from Kelly Motta with KBW. the next question comes from kelly motta with kbw Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 6: Hey, good morning. Thanks for the question. I was hoping to circle back to your expectations for loan growth. On an organic basis, it was relatively modest this quarter, but you mentioned you're making some frontline hires to help drive the outlook ahead. I'm wondering if you could share a bit more as to what you're doing on that front and the cadence of their contributions, as I know it can take a bit of time in order for new hires to add to net growth. Thanks. Hey, good morning. hey good morning Thanks for the question. thanks for the question I was hoping to circle back to your expectations for loan growth. i was hoping to circle back to your expectations for loan growth On an organic basis, it was relatively modest this quarter, but you mentioned you're making some frontline hires to help drive the outlook ahead. on an organic basis it was relatively modest this quarter but you mentioned you're making some frontline hires to help drive the outlook ahead I'm wondering if you could share a bit more as to what you're doing on that front and the cadence of their contributions, as I know it can take a bit of time in order for new hires to add to net growth. i'm wondering if you could share a bit more as to what you're doing on that front and the cadence of their contributions as i know it can take a bit of time in order for new hires to add to net growth Thanks. thanks

Speaker 1: We have been hiring very experienced, talented commercial and corporate bankers over the past several months, and we are continuing to do that. If you look at our loan production in the second quarter, we have a very meaningful increase from the first quarter. I think based upon the pipeline that we have at the beginning of the third quarter, our loan production will continue to increase over the rest of the year. In our payoff trends, our payoff in the second quarter was not as high as it was in the first quarter, but still, the payoffs and paydown trends remain at elevated levels. I think once the payoffs and paydowns have been stabilized and normalized with the added origination volumes that we can expect from these new bankers, the loan growth expectation in the third and fourth quarter is pretty doable for us. We have been hiring very experienced, talented commercial and corporate bankers over the past several months, and we are continuing to do that. we have been hiring very experienced talented commercial and corporate bankers over the past several months and we are continuing to do that If you look at our loan production in the second quarter, we have a very meaningful increase from the first quarter. if you look at our loan production in the second quarter we have a very meaningful increase from the first quarter I think based upon the pipeline that we have at the beginning of the third quarter, our loan production will continue to increase over the rest of the year. i think based upon the pipeline that we have at the beginning of the third quarter our loan production will continue to increase over the rest of the year In our payoff trends, our payoff in the second quarter was not as high as it was in the first quarter, but still, the payoffs and paydown trends remain at elevated levels. in our payoff trends our payoff in the second quarter was not as high as it was in the first quarter but still the payoffs and paydown trends remain at elevated levels I think once the payoffs and paydowns have been stabilized and normalized with the added origination volumes that we can expect from these new bankers, the loan growth expectation in the third and fourth quarter is pretty doable for us. i think once the payoffs and paydowns have been stabilized and normalized with the added origination volumes that we can expect from these new bankers the loan growth expectation in the third and fourth quarter is pretty doable for us

Speaker 6: Got it. That's helpful. A second one from me on asset quality. You guys called out in your release the migration of a commercial real estate credit, though per disclosures, it's well secured and in a prime location. Just as you think about the overall credit picture and what you're seeing, I'm wondering if there's been any shift in how you're viewing asset quality of the portfolio relative to maybe a quarter ago when things were more uncertain with tariffs and just could provide us with a bit more color as to how you're feeling about credit and what you're watching more carefully? Thanks. Got it. got it That's helpful. that's helpful A second one from me on asset quality. a second one from me on asset quality You guys called out in your release the migration of a commercial real estate credit, though per disclosures, it's well secured and in a prime location. you guys called out in your release the migration of a commercial real estate credit though per disclosures it's well secured and in a prime location Just as you think about the overall credit picture and what you're seeing, I'm wondering if there's been any shift in how you're viewing asset quality of the portfolio relative to maybe a quarter ago when things were more uncertain with tariffs and just could provide us with a bit more color as to how you're feeling about credit and what you're watching more carefully? just as you think about the overall credit picture and what you're seeing i'm wondering if there's been any shift in how you're viewing asset quality of the portfolio relative to maybe a quarter ago when things were more uncertain with tariffs and just could provide us with a bit more color as to how you're feeling about credit and what you're watching more carefully Thanks. thanks

Speaker 8: Sure. This is Peter. Yeah, we're actively monitoring our portfolio. I think we're feeling cautiously optimistic. I think a lot of the high levels of uncertainty, although they're still around, and you know we're definitely monitoring the situation, but we do remain cautiously optimistic. I think if we look at our just overall level of potential problem loans, which is really represented by our level of criticized assets, you saw some meaningful decline this quarter. I think barring any unexpected volatilities in the macroeconomic environment, we do think that asset quality remains manageable and stable. Sure. sure This is Peter. this is peter Yeah, we're actively monitoring our portfolio. yeah we're actively monitoring our portfolio I think we're feeling cautiously optimistic. i think we're feeling cautiously optimistic I think a lot of the high levels of uncertainty, although they're still around, and you know we're definitely monitoring the situation, but we do remain cautiously optimistic. i think a lot of the high levels of uncertainty although they're still around and you know we're definitely monitoring the situation but we do remain cautiously optimistic I think if we look at our just overall level of potential problem loans, which is really represented by our level of criticized assets, you saw some meaningful decline this quarter. i think if we look at our just overall level of potential problem loans which is really represented by our level of criticized assets you saw some meaningful decline this quarter I think barring any unexpected volatilities in the macroeconomic environment, we do think that asset quality remains manageable and stable. i think barring any unexpected volatilities in the macroeconomic environment we do think that asset quality remains manageable and stable

Speaker 6: Got it. I'll step back. Thanks a lot. Got it. got it I'll step back. i'll step back Thanks a lot. thanks a lot

Speaker 8: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 7: Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. The next question comes from Timothy Coffey with Janney. Please go ahead. Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. again if you have a question please press star then one The next question comes from Timothy Coffey with Janney. the next question comes from timothy coffey with janney Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 5: Great. Morning, everybody. Great. great Morning, everybody. morning everybody

Speaker 8: Morning. Morning. morning

Speaker 5: Yeah. Kevin, I'm going to, could you provide some commentary on the legacy borrowers in Hope Bancorp, the ones that are on the commercial side more towards the retail aspect of those businesses, how they did in the second quarter? I think at the beginning of the quarter, there might have been a lot of uncertainty around it, but it seems like that uncertainty started to evaporate by the end of the quarter. Yeah. yeah Kevin, I'm going to, could you provide some commentary on the legacy borrowers in Hope Bancorp, the ones that are on the commercial side more towards the retail aspect of those businesses, how they did in the second quarter? kevin i'm going to could you provide some commentary on the legacy borrowers in hope bancorp the ones that are on the commercial side more towards the retail aspect of those businesses how they did in the second quarter I think at the beginning of the quarter, there might have been a lot of uncertainty around it, but it seems like that uncertainty started to evaporate by the end of the quarter. i think at the beginning of the quarter there might have been a lot of uncertainty around it but it seems like that uncertainty started to evaporate by the end of the quarter

Speaker 8: Actually, this is Peter. I can probably answer that. I think just the level of uncertainty was much higher when we first started the quarter in Q2. I think a little bit of that dust is settling down. There's obviously still a lot of uncertainty, but actually, I think as we've been monitoring the situation, the economy, and particularly the consumer base, has remained fairly resilient. Although there's still some risk there, and we're definitely being proactive around that, we really haven't seen much impact to our customer base as of yet. Actually, this is Peter. actually this is peter I can probably answer that. i can probably answer that I think just the level of uncertainty was much higher when we first started the quarter in Q2. i think just the level of uncertainty was much higher when we first started the quarter in q2 I think a little bit of that dust is settling down. i think a little bit of that dust is settling down There's obviously still a lot of uncertainty, but actually, I think as we've been monitoring the situation, the economy, and particularly the consumer base, has remained fairly resilient. there's obviously still a lot of uncertainty but actually i think as we've been monitoring the situation the economy and particularly the consumer base has remained fairly resilient Although there's still some risk there, and we're definitely being proactive around that, we really haven't seen much impact to our customer base as of yet. although there's still some risk there and we're definitely being proactive around that we really haven't seen much impact to our customer base as of yet

Speaker 5: All right. Great. Thanks a lot for that, Peter. That was great. All right. all right Great. great Thanks a lot for that, Peter. thanks a lot for that peter That was great. that was great

Speaker 8: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 5: Julianna, looking at the deposit portfolio, right? There seems to be a pretty good balance now between commercial and consumer balances. Is that something you'd like to continue maintaining, that kind of balance? Also, do you have a target for how much brokered deposit you'll need going forward? Julianna, looking at the deposit portfolio, right? julianna looking at the deposit portfolio right There seems to be a pretty good balance now between commercial and consumer balances. there seems to be a pretty good balance now between commercial and consumer balances Is that something you'd like to continue maintaining, that kind of balance? is that something you'd like to continue maintaining that kind of balance Also, do you have a target for how much brokered deposit you'll need going forward? also do you have a target for how much brokered deposit you'll need going forward

Speaker 2: Our target loan-to-deposit ratio is to be up to 95%. We're obviously at below 91% there, so we do have some growth in excess liquidity at the moment. That should give you an idea for how much deposit growth we believe we need on an ongoing basis because we've also said in the past that on a medium-term basis, we would like to target loan growth in the high single digits, right? In terms of the customer-based balance, I think we have a pretty great balance right now between consumer and commercial loans. Our brokered deposits are down to 5% of total deposits. This is a pretty good place from which to focus on generating growth and expanding the customer wallet share and adding new relationships. Our target loan-to-deposit ratio is to be up to 95%. our target loan-to-deposit ratio is to be up to 95% We're obviously at below 91% there, so we do have some growth in excess liquidity at the moment. we're obviously at below 91% there so we do have some growth in excess liquidity at the moment That should give you an idea for how much deposit growth we believe we need on an ongoing basis because we've also said in the past that on a medium-term basis, we would like to target loan growth in the high single digits, right? that should give you an idea for how much deposit growth we believe we need on an ongoing basis because we've also said in the past that on a medium-term basis we would like to target loan growth in the high single digits right In terms of the customer-based balance, I think we have a pretty great balance right now between consumer and commercial loans. in terms of the customer-based balance i think we have a pretty great balance right now between consumer and commercial loans Our brokered deposits are down to 5% of total deposits. our brokered deposits are down to 5% of total deposits This is a pretty good place from which to focus on generating growth and expanding the customer wallet share and adding new relationships. this is a pretty good place from which to focus on generating growth and expanding the customer wallet share and adding new relationships

Speaker 5: Okay. Great. Those are my questions. Thank you very much. Okay. okay Great. great Those are my questions. those are my questions Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 2: Thank you, Tim. Thank you, Tim. thank you tim

Speaker 7: We have a follow-up from Kelly Motta with KBW. Please go ahead. We have a follow-up from Kelly Motta with KBW. we have a follow-up from kelly motta with kbw Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for letting me jump back in. Just a quick modeling question. For Julianna, can you remind us how much more one-time costs are yet to be realized? Now with the conversion kicked out a bit, would those occur closer to conversion, or is there a cadence to expect for the back half of the year? Thanks. Hey, thanks for letting me jump back in. hey thanks for letting me jump back in Just a quick modeling question. just a quick modeling question For Julianna, can you remind us how much more one-time costs are yet to be realized? for julianna can you remind us how much more one-time costs are yet to be realized Now with the conversion kicked out a bit, would those occur closer to conversion, or is there a cadence to expect for the back half of the year? now with the conversion kicked out a bit would those occur closer to conversion or is there a cadence to expect for the back half of the year Thanks. thanks

Speaker 2: In the back half of the year, there'll be probably a couple million more of one-time costs in the third quarter, and then probably a couple million more in the fourth quarter just from various odds and ends, if you will. That's what I can share with you right now. In the back half of the year, there'll be probably a couple million more of one-time costs in the third quarter, and then probably a couple million more in the fourth quarter just from various odds and ends, if you will. in the back half of the year there'll be probably a couple million more of one-time costs in the third quarter and then probably a couple million more in the fourth quarter just from various odds and ends if you will That's what I can share with you right now. that's what i can share with you right now

Speaker 6: Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. Got it. got it That's helpful. that's helpful Thank you. thank you

Speaker 7: We have a follow-up from Gary Tenner from DA Davidson. Please go ahead. We have a follow-up from Gary Tenner from DA Davidson. we have a follow-up from gary tenner from da davidson Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 4: Thanks. I just wanted to ask, I apologize if I missed this, but in terms of the new production in the quarter, what was the average yield on new production? Thanks. thanks I just wanted to ask, I apologize if I missed this, but in terms of the new production in the quarter, what was the average yield on new production? i just wanted to ask i apologize if i missed this but in terms of the new production in the quarter what was the average yield on new production

Speaker 2: The average yield on the new production was approximately 6.76%. The average yield on the new production was approximately 6.76%. the average yield on the new production was approximately 6.76%

Speaker 4: Great. Thank you. Great. great Thank you. thank you

Speaker 7: We have a follow-up from Matthew Clark from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. We have a follow-up from Matthew Clark from Piper Sandler. we have a follow-up from matthew clark from piper sandler Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 3: I'd say just another housekeeping item for next year. The tax rate, I know it's going to come down by 100 bps, but does that imply 24% for next year? I'd say just another housekeeping item for next year. i'd say just another housekeeping item for next year The tax rate, I know it's going to come down by 100 bps, but does that imply 24% for next year? the tax rate i know it's going to come down by 100 bps but does that imply 24% for next year

Speaker 2: No, I think that the tax rate for this year on the full-year basis is at the 21%. When you look at 2026, I think our tax year going forward beyond this year will be, you know, in that 20%. Again, not taking into account any tax law changes that may impact 2026 from the passage of recent federal legislation, okay? Just based on what is in place today, I would say that our tax rate going forward will be in that 20% to 21% range. It's down from the prior year because of the state apportionment tax law change, but also because we are continuing to invest in low-income housing and other tax credit investments to help lower our tax burden. No, I think that the tax rate for this year on the full-year basis is at the 21%. no i think that the tax rate for this year on the full-year basis is at the 21% When you look at 2026, I think our tax year going forward beyond this year will be, you know, in that 20%. when you look at 2026 i think our tax year going forward beyond this year will be you know in that 20% Again, not taking into account any tax law changes that may impact 2026 from the passage of recent federal legislation, okay? again not taking into account any tax law changes that may impact 2026 from the passage of recent federal legislation okay Just based on what is in place today, I would say that our tax rate going forward will be in that 20% to 21% range. just based on what is in place today i would say that our tax rate going forward will be in that 20% to 21% range It's down from the prior year because of the state apportionment tax law change, but also because we are continuing to invest in low-income housing and other tax credit investments to help lower our tax burden. it's down from the prior year because of the state apportionment tax law change but also because we are continuing to invest in low-income housing and other tax credit investments to help lower our tax burden

Speaker 3: Okay. Great. In the charge-offs this quarter, up a little bit, anything chunky in there or anything maybe unusual to call out? Just trying to get a sense for where that might go going forward. I know it's tough to say. Okay. okay Great. great In the charge-offs this quarter, up a little bit, anything chunky in there or anything maybe unusual to call out? in the charge-offs this quarter up a little bit anything chunky in there or anything maybe unusual to call out Just trying to get a sense for where that might go going forward. just trying to get a sense for where that might go going forward I know it's tough to say. i know it's tough to say

Speaker 8: Yeah. The charge-offs were up slightly this quarter. I do think that we remain at manageable levels. We still have some cleanup that we're undergoing right now. I would just look at sort of just portfolio management as the reason there. Going forward, as you have heard, I think our level of overall problem credits or criticized assets is going down. NPL did have a little uptick, but it's a real estate property that's well secured. On the asset quality front, we are, again, cautiously optimistic. I do think there is a roadmap here if the macroeconomic environment continues to support that, we will remain at stable, manageable levels going forward. Yeah. yeah The charge-offs were up slightly this quarter. the charge-offs were up slightly this quarter I do think that we remain at manageable levels. i do think that we remain at manageable levels We still have some cleanup that we're undergoing right now. we still have some cleanup that we're undergoing right now I would just look at sort of just portfolio management as the reason there. i would just look at sort of just portfolio management as the reason there Going forward, as you have heard, I think our level of overall problem credits or criticized assets is going down. going forward as you have heard i think our level of overall problem credits or criticized assets is going down NPL did have a little uptick, but it's a real estate property that's well secured. npl did have a little uptick but it's a real estate property that's well secured On the asset quality front, we are, again, cautiously optimistic. on the asset quality front we are again cautiously optimistic I do think there is a roadmap here if the macroeconomic environment continues to support that, we will remain at stable, manageable levels going forward. i do think there is a roadmap here if the macroeconomic environment continues to support that we will remain at stable manageable levels going forward

Speaker 3: Great. Thanks again. Great. great Thanks again. thanks again

Speaker 7: Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. We have a follow-up from Kelly Motta from KBW. Please go ahead. Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. again if you have a question please press star then one We have a follow-up from Kelly Motta from KBW. we have a follow-up from kelly motta from kbw Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 6: Thanks. Thanks for letting me hop in a third time now. Last question for me on the NII guidance. You maintained it, but you also have the benefit of the securities repositioning in the back half of the year. It seems like some of the guide changes related to taking out a rate cut, the accretion from Territorial, but on a core core basis, it still seems down. Wondering if you could share if that's really just the function of rates or if there's something else that is creating that variance, whether it's, you know, maybe some additional pressure on the deposit side or slower loan growth. Just wondering if you could provide some color as to what drove that? Thanks. thanks Thanks for letting me hop in a third time now. thanks for letting me hop in a third time now Last question for me on the NII guidance. last question for me on the nii guidance You maintained it, but you also have the benefit of the securities repositioning in the back half of the year. you maintained it but you also have the benefit of the securities repositioning in the back half of the year It seems like some of the guide changes related to taking out a rate cut, the accretion from Territorial, but on a core core basis, it still seems down. it seems like some of the guide changes related to taking out a rate cut the accretion from territorial but on a core core basis it still seems down Wondering if you could share if that's really just the function of rates or if there's something else that is creating that variance, whether it's, you know, maybe some additional pressure on the deposit side or slower loan growth. wondering if you could share if that's really just the function of rates or if there's something else that is creating that variance whether it's you know maybe some additional pressure on the deposit side or slower loan growth Just wondering if you could provide some color as to what drove that? just wondering if you could provide some color as to what drove that

Speaker 2: Yeah. I can add a couple of comments to that. I mean, if you think about it, when we provided the guidance in April, right, we were looking at a rate curve with a first cut starting in June. That would have given us two full quarters of a rate cut and then a cut in September, which would have given us like a full quarter of another cut, right? All else equal, as you can see in our, you know, 10-Q disclosures, 100 basis points impacts our NII by $20 million. You know, taking out, so, you know, model to model, if we took out the impact of the curve change from our kind of first quarter forecast, that would have taken out about a net $4 million of income. We were able to make that up and offset that with the securities portfolio repositioning, right? Yeah. yeah I can add a couple of comments to that. i can add a couple of comments to that I mean, if you think about it, when we provided the guidance in April, right, we were looking at a rate curve with a first cut starting in June. i mean if you think about it when we provided the guidance in april right we were looking at a rate curve with a first cut starting in june That would have given us two full quarters of a rate cut and then a cut in September, which would have given us like a full quarter of another cut, right? that would have given us two full quarters of a rate cut and then a cut in september which would have given us like a full quarter of another cut right All else equal, as you can see in our, you know, 10-Q disclosures, 100 basis points impacts our NII by $20 million. all else equal as you can see in our you know 10-q disclosures 100 basis points impacts our nii by $20 million You know, taking out, so, you know, model to model, if we took out the impact of the curve change from our kind of first quarter forecast, that would have taken out about a net $4 million of income. you know taking out so you know model to model if we took out the impact of the curve change from our kind of first quarter forecast that would have taken out about a net $4 million of income We were able to make that up and offset that with the securities portfolio repositioning, right? we were able to make that up and offset that with the securities portfolio repositioning right The change in the forward curve also impacted the pace of recognition of accretion. Higher for longer, all else equal, does slow down the prepayment speed. The upfront accretion in year one for us, we're now looking at $12 million versus $14 million. That kind of gets you to the math of maintaining the NII unchanged. Also, you know, we're continuing to improve the pace of originations, but quarter to quarter, the lended loan yield on originations did decrease a little bit. Continued kind of competitive pricing in the market for loan growth is also, you know, coming through. Basically, the maths on it are really, really curve-driven and accretion-driven. You can ask yourself, what can we do to, you know, kind of change that conversation without just waiting for another rate cut? The change in the forward curve also impacted the pace of recognition of accretion. the change in the forward curve also impacted the pace of recognition of accretion Higher for longer, all else equal, does slow down the prepayment speed. higher for longer all else equal does slow down the prepayment speed The upfront accretion in year one for us, we're now looking at $12 million versus $14 million. the upfront accretion in year one for us we're now looking at $12 million versus $14 million That kind of gets you to the math of maintaining the NII unchanged. that kind of gets you to the math of maintaining the nii unchanged Also, you know, we're continuing to improve the pace of originations, but quarter to quarter, the lended loan yield on originations did decrease a little bit. also you know we're continuing to improve the pace of originations but quarter to quarter the lended loan yield on originations did decrease a little bit Continued kind of competitive pricing in the market for loan growth is also, you know, coming through. continued kind of competitive pricing in the market for loan growth is also you know coming through Basically, the maths on it are really, really curve-driven and accretion-driven. basically the maths on it are really really curve-driven and accretion-driven You can ask yourself, what can we do to, you know, kind of change that conversation without just waiting for another rate cut? you can ask yourself what can we do to you know kind of change that conversation without just waiting for another rate cut We've been very proactive in working on our deposit mix and reducing our higher cost deposits, as you saw the continued improvement from brokered deposit exposure, et cetera. We've been very proactive in working on our deposit mix and reducing our higher cost deposits, as you saw the continued improvement from brokered deposit exposure, et cetera. we've been very proactive in working on our deposit mix and reducing our higher cost deposits as you saw the continued improvement from brokered deposit exposure et cetera

Speaker 6: That's really, really helpful. Thanks. Thanks again. I'll step back for good now. That's really, really helpful. that's really really helpful Thanks. thanks Thanks again. thanks again I'll step back for good now. i'll step back for good now

Speaker 7: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks. This concludes our question and answer session. this concludes our question and answer session I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks. i would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks

Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you, Drew. Once again, thank you all for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you in three months. So long, everyone. Thank you. thank you Thank you, Drew. thank you drew Once again, thank you all for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you in three months. once again thank you all for joining us today and we look forward to speaking with you in three months So long, everyone. so long everyone

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