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DOMO, INC. — Call Transcript 2023
Nov 30, 2023
Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Domo Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2024 Earnings Call. Today's call is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question at that time, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. Again, and that is star one to withdraw your question. I would now like to turn the call over to Peter Lowry, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir. Good afternoon, and welcome. On the call today, we have Josh James, our Founder and CEO, and David Jolley, our Chief Financial Officer. I'll lead off with our safe harbor statement and then onto the call. Our press release was issued after the market closed and is posted on the investor relations section of our website, where this call is also being webcast. Statements made on this call include forward-looking statements related to our business under federal securities laws. These statements are subject to a variety of risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. These include, but are not limited to, statements about future prospects or financial projections and cash position. Statements regarding the potential of our consumption-based pricing, statements about our sales team and technology, our expectations for new business opportunities, transactions, and initiatives. Statements regarding our channel of communications and upcoming events, statements regarding the potential of artificial intelligence and its impact on our business, and statements regarding the impact of macroeconomic and other conditions on our business. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the documents we filed with the SEC. In particular, today's press release, our most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K, and our most recently filed quarterly report on Form 10-Q. These documents contain and identify important risk factors and other information that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those contained in our forward-looking statements. In addition, during today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are useful as supplemental measures of Domo's performance. Other than revenue, unless otherwise stated, we will be discussing our results of operations on a non-GAAP basis. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to, and not as a substitute for or an isolation from our GAAP results. Please refer to the tables in our earnings press release for a reconciliation of our non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measure, which we have posted to the investor relations section of our website at domoinvestors.com. With that, I'll turn it over to Josh. Josh? Thank you, Pete, and thank you everyone for joining the call today. In Q3, we were able to exceed guidance for our key top-line metrics, including revenue, subscription revenue, and billings. A highlight in the quarter is that we had our highest operating income in history of $5 million, and our highest operating margin in history of 6%. Over the past few years, and especially the last few quarters, we have been incubating critical pivots that are finally coming together. They are clear and powerful priorities that are removing friction and strengthening our ability to deliver unmatched value to the market. Specifically, several years ago, we decided to test an idea. What would customers do if they had unlimited access to features for an unlimited number of users and all visualization for free? It was a simple value prop to customers: pay for the value you are realizing. Well, after positive feedback, we decided to run an even broader pilot last year, and the pilot proved to be a smash hit. We now feel like we've reached critical mass with over 20% of our ARR on the consumption model. As we continue to look at the results from this very large sample size, we feel very confident in making the decision and saying we're going all in on consumption. By the end of next year, we expect to have the vast majority of our revenue on the consumption model. Again, we now have over 400 customers on consumption contracts, representing over 15% of our customer base and over 20% of our ARR. When customers move to consumption, we are seeing user counts growing at almost three times the speed of seat-based customers, and we are seeing three times the adoption rate on premium features like data science. We've also rolled out reporting so our customers can see in real time what their consumption patterns are. So far, even with the highest usage our customers are seeing, the feedback has been incredibly positive because customers recognize the value of that usage. As an example, it took us eight years at a fast food chain to get an ARR of about $200,000. Now that they've converted to consumption, this company has committed to an ARR of over $550,000 over the next three years by expanding the use of Domo across the organization. One fun story to relate that has happened to me on multiple occasions over the last few months is watching how our customers react to the new model. I've seen the epiphanies go off in their eyes as they recognize, and then look at people internally in the room, and tell them conclusively that because they now have unlimited users, they can start looking at sunsetting all of their other BI technologies and legacy reporting tools and use Domo instead. Well, I couldn't have said it better myself. In support of our consumption strategy and to pave a completely open path to adoption, we've also launched a new freemium model. Freemium was impossible before our consumption model and gives everyone a risk-free opportunity to get in and try Domo with no obligations and no restrictions. Domo customers have access to all the Domo features with unlimited users, and they can tackle any use case they want. When they want to go bigger, they can click from within Domo to buy consumption credits and have an unlimited highway to multiply their impact on their business. This approach seamlessly aligns with our core philosophy of delivering value before requiring payment, reinforcing our commitment to providing accessible and valuable solutions to our users. We rolled out our free offering last month, and we'll be rapidly iterating on it over the next quarter to focus on user experience and easy onboarding. We think that long-term, this alters our ability to attract new customers and give them a friction-free path to move through the pipeline from free to paid usage, to sharing with more users, to broad use case adoption. Of course, this naturally leads to expanding credits and being ready for a long-term relationship with our sales and support organization. This new flow evolves us from having to work with cold leads, to being able to talk with happy customers who already see the value of the platform and are ready to lean in more. To demonstrate the power of having a freemium model, let me share a story from two weeks ago. Our sales team had been calling a CTO prospect for over a year with no luck. One of our salespeople called the CTO on a Friday afternoon and left a message about freemium and the free credits it comes with. The CTO proceeded to sign up for a free instance, and over the weekend, multiple users connected to disparate data sources and built data flows, powering over 40 reports. By Monday, the CTO was in love with the product and signed up for a three-year deal with a total contract value well into the six figures. That was a three-day sales cycle. Our freemium product also completely changes the conversation with potential partners who have wanted to leverage our Domo Everywhere product to deliver data experiences through Domo for their own customers. In the past, if we had a customer with, say, 20,000 external end users, it would have required a major upfront investment, which often led our customer to reduce the use case to maybe just the top 5% of external customers. With freemium, however, we can give all 20,000 of those users a free instance of Domo immediately at no cost. This creates a very meaningful introduction to Domo for those end users with an obvious upgrade experience, because they can experience the value and immediately expand and put more of their own data in our platform. In a consumption world, focusing on adoption through product-led growth and support programs is the critical path to success for both customers and for Domo. Increased adoption leads to happier and more successful customers, and the corollary is, of course, increased revenue. As we roll out features and training that support adoption, we have seen our customers rapidly expand their usage of our platform compared to when they were under seat-based pricing. For example, one of our largest customers had been a customer for six years. In those first six years, they had grown to 3,500 active users and 17 departments. Then they converted to our consumption model. The growth was rapid. In just one additional year, they added 2,300 more active users and more than doubled the number of departments and use cases. This has dramatically increased the return for the customer and, of course, has strengthened our relationship in the account. In support of our shift to the consumption model, focusing on our customers' adoption of our platform brings complete alignment between us and our customers around multiplying value. It's all about opening up unlimited use cases to address a completely expanding list of customer needs, and it helps us learn more about what drives customer success. For example, which product features and functionality in our products really drive expanded usage? What of our support behaviors drive additional adoption of our products? It shifts the dynamic from trying to sell the customer more products to helping them find more ways to receive value. Now, the progress we've made with our consumption model and with our launch of freemium has dramatically altered our ability to be successful within the ecosystem and our partners. Only recently, we've changed our architecture to allow Domo to drive consumption for partners like Snowflake, AWS, and Microsoft. Before now, we've had conflict in the channel, where we sometimes drove consumption or compute away from our vendors. With the architecture changes, we now allow customers to choose to keep the data and the associated querying and processing of data with our partners. It was a substantial investment on our part, but we are very excited that this has all been reconciled. Because of these changes, we'll be making some announcements soon, describing partnerships where customers are able to retire spend by purchasing Domo through various app stores and marketplaces from major tech players. As it relates to AI, this is another area where consumption allows our customers to get in and start seeing the value of AI in their business without an upfront commitment or investment. As mentioned earlier, we've seen dramatically higher uptake in our data science offerings among our consumption customers compared to our seat-based customers, and we expect to see similar levels of adoption as we continue to expand our AI service layer and other AI offerings. The consumption model will expose many more customers to AI because they don't have to sign a contract before they start using it. This, in turn, of course, drives consumption. We have several AI-related product launches lined up for the coming months that will help our customers build reports and interact with their data in a ChatGPT-like fashion. Now, to illustrate the impact of this new model that has already penetrated over 20% of our ARR, please let me share some real-life examples from some of our customers. So first, a significant new logo win with a Canadian retailer that was using competing BI solutions, was having issues with siloed data and with connecting to data in disparate systems. The company chose Domo for our consumption model, which made it easy for them to sunset legacy seat-based tools, where they weren't sure they were getting the value that they needed. We are starting to see more and more of these cases, and it's certainly good to be the consolidator. A healthcare software company was using our Domo Everywhere solution to provide data to their medical customers. The company was adding new Domo Everywhere customers at a faster rate than expected, and it was challenging under a seat-based model, where they had to commit to their investment before receiving the value. Since transferring over to consumption now, our customer has tripled their contract size with us, and yes, that math works. An educational software company was debating which vendor to use for their ETL needs. They entered into an upsell contract with Domo, not only because of our ETL features, but because our consumption contract structure allowed them to predict their cost with a high level of confidence. Additionally, the company had been considering using Domo Everywhere to provide embedded analytics to thousands of their end users. Moving to a consumption model opened the door for them to test out our Domo Everywhere experience in a very cost-effective manner. And then, because of the value they're seeing in the Domo platform, this customer has committed to dramatically alter the scale of their investment and agreed to a two-year, six-figure ARR contract in Q3, with a significant upsell built into the second year. Is consumption driving adoption? It certainly looks like it. Another example is a financial services company that purchased Domo to consolidate data from multiple loan origination systems. The consumption model was key to their decision to go with Domo because it unlocked our data science and sandbox features, which were critical to their use case and would have been outside their budget under our seat-based model. Does access to all of Domo help customers unlock the value of the entire platform and become more committed to the entirety of our platform? I think so. A digital customer engagement platform company has been a Domo customer for a decade. The initial use case was for sales and marketing analytics. However, about a year ago, the company was considering a cancellation because they felt like they were paying too much per seat for about 350 users. What saved the account was a move to consumption with unlimited users. Using our product, they created an app, and because they have unlimited users, they were able to deploy the app company-wide and now have over 1,000 users on Domo's platform. Not only did we save an account that was going to cancel, several months after they converted to consumption, they actually committed to an increased level of consumption and upped their spend with us. Now, would we have been able to save this customer without consumption? No. Now we have an upsell. Looking outside of Q3, here's a few more examples of how consumption is changing the game for us. A healthcare analytics company, which is using several of our larger competitors, is looking to replace some BusinessObjects and other legacy providers. Consumption is allowing the company to replace the other vendors and expand Domo without the friction of a new contract discussion. Can Domo benefit from vendor consolidation? Yes, we can. Another small highlight is a digital asset company that was about to cancel because they thought we were too expensive for the number of users they had in the account on seat-based pricing. They moved to a consumption contract with unlimited users. Additionally, they agreed to triple their contract size, and then, just last week, agreed to triple it again. So they are now close to 10x their original size, as opposed to just recently being on the brink of canceling. Do I wish that all my customers were on consumption contracts? Yes, I do. Lastly, an insurance company that was paying us $200,000 a year moved to consumption because our seat-based model didn't allow them to expand as rapidly as they wanted to. With the initial move to consumption, they increased their contract with us by over $100,000. Fifteen months later, after they'd been able to fully realize the value Domo can provide due to having unlimited users and functionality, they added another $200,000 annually to their contract to replace their spend with Cognos. So in totality, I think these are some great examples of multiple customers that highlight the progress we are making as a company. Now, while we are marching toward improving the prospects of the company, we are also optimizing our costs so we can operate as efficiently as possible. To that end, we've made changes that impact approximately 7% of our workforce, as well as reductions in contractors, marketing programs, and other expenses. We are cognizant of the effect this has on people and would like to take a moment to express our gratitude to everyone for their contributions. As we look to the future, I'm sure you can feel my energy around these pivots we're making and the signals we're seeing from customers and partners that resoundingly has convinced us that they are the right moves. Even when we were growing 30% quarter-over-quarter, year-over-year, I wasn't this optimistic about our future and our stability as I am now. We're quickly migrating to the consumption model. In Q4, we'll have the vast majority of our new logo customers on consumption, and we will continue to encourage our existing customers to switch to consumption, resulting in the vast majority of our ARR transition to the consumption model within the next year. Freemium, our adoption programs, and our AI investments will continue to bolster our efforts in moving to consumption, where customers are able to experience value and see the vision of what Domo can mean to their company before having to pay and commit to everything. All of these changes will also lead to a dramatic shift in our approach and success with partners and the broader ecosystem over the next 12 months, which should meaningfully impact our ability to generate leads efficiently. Domo is becoming a much more interesting company with prospects that excite our broader team. With that, I'll now turn it over to David. Thanks, Josh. I love those examples. Like you, I'm excited about our key areas of focus and believe we are really well positioned to execute on the opportunities in front of us. Now, while we aspire to higher growth rates than we're currently experiencing, I'm pleased that we were able to exceed the billings guidance that we provided at the beginning of the quarter. We delivered Q3 billings of $74.8 million, a year-over-year increase of 1%. Total revenue was $79.7 million, also a year-over-year increase of 1%. Subscription revenue represented 89% of our total revenue and grew- One moment, everyone, while we reconnect the speaker line. Please stand by and do not disconnect. Once again, everyone, please stand by. Once again, everyone, we are reconnecting the speaker line. Please stand by. All right. Are we back live again? You are live. Please go ahead. All right. Very good. Sorry for the short delay. But thanks, Josh, I appreciate that and appreciate the those great examples. Like you, I'm excited about our key areas of focus and believe we're well-positioned to execute on the opportunities in front of us. Now, while we aspire to higher growth rates than we're currently experiencing, I'm pleased that we were able to exceed the billings guidance that we provided at the beginning of the quarter. We delivered Q3 billings of $74.8 million, a year-over-year increase of 1%. Total revenue was $79.7 million, also a year-over-year increase of 1%. Subscription revenue represented 89% of our total revenue and grew 3% year-over-year, and our ARR grew roughly in line with subscription revenue growth. In reviewing the metrics that will impact the remainder of the year, our current RPO is $230.8 million, consistent with last year, and our total RPO grew 4% to $367.2 million as of October thirty-first. On a dollar weighted measure, we continue to have approximately two-thirds of our customers under multi-year contracts. Our gross retention was above 85%, net retention was about 95%. Last quarter, we identified potential renewal challenges with several large customers, and while we and some of our customers continue to face challenging IT spending environment, in Q3, these renewals discussions played out somewhat better than expected, which did help our results. In regards to the large renewal risks that we had identified last quarter, we have saved a few of them and have not identified any beyond those that we had identified in last quarter for the fourth quarter. Moving on to margins and profitability. Our subscription gross margin was 84.8%, up 0.2 percentage points from Q3 of last year. The non-GAAP operating margin was a record high 6.3%, up 5.4 percentage points from a year ago. Our net loss was very close to breakeven at $24,000, which is our best result to date, and a big improvement from a net loss of $4.4 million a year ago. ...Net loss per share was zero, based on 36.3 million weighted average shares outstanding, basic and diluted. In Q3, cash used in operations was approximately $4.3 million. We capitalized approximately $2 million in software costs, resulting in a decline of our cash balance of $6.5 million from last quarter to $57.4 million. Cash flow from operations in Q3 was negatively impacted by the timing of collections on some receivables. However, we're still on track to generate positive operating cash flow for FY 2024, and therefore expect our Q4 cash flow from operations to be in the range of $3 million-$4 million. Looking forward to next year, we're committed to not only being operating cash flow positive, but we are targeting free cash flow positive for FY 2025. In order to bring our cost structure in alignment with this target, we recently reduced our headcount-related expense by approximately 7% and also optimized a handful of other costs. For Q4 top-line metrics, we are guiding to a billing range of $102 million-$103 million, and expect GAAP revenue to be in the range of $79 million-$80 million. For the full year of fiscal 2024, we expect billings to be in the range of $317.7 million-$318.7 million, and we expect GAAP revenue to be in the range of $317.8 million-$318.8 million, representing year-over-year growth of approximately 3%. We expect non-GAAP net loss per share, basic and diluted, of $0.05-$0.09 for Q4. This assumes a 36.8 million weighted average shares outstanding, basic and diluted. For the full year, we expect non-GAAP net loss per share, basic and diluted, of $0.24-$0.28. This assumes 36.1 million weighted average shares outstanding, basic and diluted. Additionally of note, is the fact that we've engaged an investment bank to assist us with refinancing and extending the maturity of our outstanding debt, and at this point in the process, we have a significant level of interest from potential lenders. In conclusion, we posted better-than-expected top-line results with record profitability and believe we're making the right moves to drive long-term profitable growth. With that, we'll open the call for questions. Operator? Thank you. If you would like to ask a question on the phone lines today, please press star one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to remove yourself from the queue, that is star one again. We'll pause for a moment to allow everyone a chance to signal. We'll take our first question from Eric Martinuzzi with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Yeah, congrats on the good numbers for the quarter, and I appreciate the examples regarding the capacity-based pricing impacts. Wanted to understand a little bit more on the risk of non-renewals. I think last quarter, you talked about four or five enterprise accounts that were in danger, and that was part of the reset to the outlook for FY 2024. Could you give us a little better color? Have we reached resolution on those four or five at-risk enterprise accounts? Yeah, we've reached resolution. You know, good news, we were actually able to keep a couple of them just with downsells, but we still kept them as customers. So, that was, you know, that was a little bit of a bright spot, you know, when it came to the bad news. And, you know, this quarter, we've... You know, given the guidance, we're obviously not- we're not on a torrid pace here, but we, at the same time, feel pretty good about looking out over the next three, four quarters, in terms of the pacing of, you know, where customers are that are at risk. It feels like, you know, we hit the bottom of that, and we're recovering from that. And like we mentioned, many of the examples with the consumption pricing, we actually end up on the consolidation, being the consolidator, side of the equation, versus having, you know, just being impacted by, by others. So the move to, to consumption definitely changed the relationship with a lot of our customers, and has helped us save a bunch of accounts. And, we think, especially as that plays out over the future, you know, like we talked about, there's so many upsells that we're getting from these accounts. If you look at the cohort of customers that have been through renewal, we haven't lost any customers that have signed up, to consumption. And, you know, it's a smaller sample size, you know, 30-40, but, you know, as that number gets bigger, we'll keep watching that. But it certainly is extremely encouraging, looking at the 20% of our business that's purely consumption, and knowing that we can get that number to, you know, a vast majority, just over the next 12 months. Mm-hmm. Okay. The other comment that you made last quarter was regarding the pipeline, and you characterized the pipeline back then as soft in all stages. I'm wondering if you could update that view on the pipeline. Yeah, it feels... You know, as we look at the numbers, it seems like we've started to turn. You know, there's seven, eight, nine numbers that all feel like they've barely started to turn, but it's barely. But, you know, all of our checks, it looks like things are hit the bottom last quarter and just are starting to slightly improve. So hopefully, that's how things play out. But, we've- we're feeling like we have our arms wrapped around the situation much better, and we feel like we're in a much better position, in terms of the relationship that we have with our customers and our ability to sell consumption and our ability to get our customers over to consumption, training up the reps, training up the client services folks, you know, focusing on adoption and helping people find these additional use cases. So we feel like we're much better positioned, and feel like we've got much better visibility into the customers and the contracts at this stage. Understand. Good luck in Q4. Thank you very much. ... Once again, that is star one to ask a question. We'll take our next question from Oliver Crookenden with JMP Securities. Actually, it's Pat, but Pat Walravens with JMP Securities. Thank you. So, Josh, I do love this shift to consumption. And we've seen a lot of other people do it, but I was wondering if you could balance it out a little bit. I mean, there are some negatives to the consumption model, too, right? So what do you give up when you make this shift? Yeah, I think if you went around the room in e-staff and, you know, tried to figure out what the negatives are, we're not seeing any negatives. You know, the one difference in the model is you're not gonna sign up any seven-figure new logo deals, right? When you go start to use- Yeah ... AWS, you don't, you don't walk in and be like, "Hey, give me a couple million bucks worth." You try it out, and you start spending, and if you like it, you know, you decide that you wanna commit to get lower rates, and we're seeing that same thing. So, you know, brand-new, seven-figure billings walking in the door, we're not gonna have as many of those. They'll, they'll happen, but they'll happen as those customers grow. So, you know, we're seeing those relationships. We have some, we have some really big customers that are signing up right now that on the old seat model, we'd be signing up for $3 million-$4 million, but, you know, annually. But in the consumption model, you sign them up for $400,000, and then another $500,000, and then you get to $2 million, and you still get to the same spot. You get there more efficiently, more effectively. You know, there's not as much hemming and hawing. You're not going through as many use cases and approvals internally. But at the same time, you're also gonna have the big billings hits, until they've had time to bake. So we'll have to wait for some of those things to bake a little bit. Okay, great. I think, Pat, you know, another... just another comment was that, I think early on, there was a concern, "Well, geez, you know, if we give them the whole platform, is there gonna be anything to sell them later on?" And there was some concern about that. But the way that's working is when we provide the whole platform and open up all the seats, it's then just about helping the customer identify how to solve more of their data issues and more use cases. And as they do that, that's the upsell. It happens very naturally. Okay, so there's not a near-term hit on cash flow? Like, you don't get less cash up front when you go to a consumption model. I mean, maybe not. Nope. No. Okay, great. It's still AI subscription. Yep, subscription AI, so... Okay, perfect. And then my second question is, Josh, if you could go a little deeper... Actually, maybe I'll just tell you my other question. I'll put them both out front. So for Josh, if you could go a little deeper on the architectural change and help us understand the history of that. What was it before, and what is it now, and how does it work? And then maybe if you guys could address the debt in a little more detail, just sort of what's the current rate, when's the maturity, and what's your options look like? Both of those things would be really helpful. Thank you. Yeah, so the problem before, you know, when we were starting to get excited about the ecosystem, and we were building relationships with some folks, especially the big data providers, you know, we walk into accounts with reps, and then their customer that they introduced us to might start pulling some compute out of our partner and putting it into Domo. And, you know, of course, that's the end of those relationships, right? You're taking dollars out of the pockets of the reps, of the partners, and so, you know, that was DOA as soon as that started. I... And so what we've done now is we said, "Okay, we can take that compute component, where the data lives and how it gets queried and processed, and we can run that inside Snowflake or inside AWS or inside Microsoft." So any partner that brings us in, we can keep all the computing, the computing charges and credits that are being used up actually with the partner. And so that changes the dynamic pretty meaningfully because, you know, now we have complete alignment, except for instead of, you know, 40 users that you may have at, you know, even a big Fortune 500 company, you go from 40 users or 100 users to 5,000, 10,000 when you add the Domo front end on top of that. That's 5,000-10,000 people that are now querying and running reports that are all driving compute on the back end of a Snowflake or a Databricks or a Microsoft or an AWS or a Google. So we feel like we're in a much, much better position, and that coupled with freemium, there's been plenty of conversations where we're talking to a partner and someone that maybe we have, you know, 300 customers that have connected to their data. So we know it's popular inside our network, and we know that we provide a lot of visibility into the data that's inside that partner's analytics. The partner will come to us and say, "Gosh, it'd be great if we could give this to the other 10,000 customers that we have." And then we say, "Yeah, great, you should do that. It's, let's see, $840,000." And the partner's like, "What? Well, we don't know what the value is yet." We're like, "Yeah, but we'll give you upside if they converted to Domo customers." They're like, "Yeah, that seems like a good idea on paper, but I don't know if we can lean in and make the commitment, make the investment without seeing a return, so maybe we should just try it out with a couple of customers." And by then, you've lost momentum. Whereas now we can go in, that same customer, that same conversation, we say, "Yes, we can get it to all 10,000. Let's do it on freemium. Let's build some quick start guides so that the second you roll this out, the customer is able to log into Domo, see all of the data from you as a partner. We'll build out the dashboards. We'll build out the alerts. They're gonna get this great white glove, perfect experience replicated 10,000x automatically. And in there, they can see, "Hey, this is your Domo experience for this data from your partner. If you want it for everything else, here's your freemium account, just keep going. And then we tell the partner, 'Any upside, we're gonna give you guys a piece of it.' So all of a sudden, providing data to their customers becomes not a cost center, it becomes a profit center. And we've seen a bunch of traction in just even the last month for that. So we're really excited about our ability to provide Domo Everywhere through our Freemium offering. Great. And then, Dave, on the debt. Yeah. So our current debt, as you might recall, we raised that debt, even prior to our IPO, when we were still consuming a lot of cash. And so, it's very expensive debt. It carries a cash interest component and a PIK interest component, some other payments that push the effective interest rate, you know, north of 14%, is where we're at today. And, and it's got a maturity of April 25. And so we've gone out with a refinancing and, got a bank helping us, and, we're looking at a cash interest component of, you know, a little over 11% right now based on where SOFR is at. You know, we're hearing some good things about where rates might go next year, but but it'll bring our rate down substantially and push our maturity date, you know, out to, you know, 2029 or 2030. So it sort of puts it out, well out into the future, and it eliminates some of the other, you know, PIK interest and some of the other elements. All right. Terrific. Thanks to you, thanks to both of you. One moment, everyone. The speaker line has disconnected. One moment while we reestablish the audio. Once again, everyone, please stand by. We'll establish that audio line momentarily. Please stay on the line. Once again, everyone, you are on hold for the Domo, Inc. conference call. We are establishing a speaker line. Please stand by. You are now live. All right. Sounds like, Pat said thanks, we heard, there was another question. Is the question still on? Yes, one moment. We'll take our next question from Derek Wood with TD Cowen. Hey, guys. Thanks. This is Cole on for Derek. On the risk that you talked about, we'd just like to get a little bit more color. Is that across sales, G&A? If you can just unpack that a bit, that'd be helpful. Yeah, we were-- we, it was across every department. There was... The majority of it was in sales. You know, we're, we're, in terms of growth, not where we want to be, and so for the most part, it was based on performance. Some of it was just positions that were eliminated as we found, more optimized way of accomplishing certain things. It wasn't a huge number, but, you know, it was still, still, a, a, you know, several dozen, humans that were affected. So, you know, a little bit of a rough day here at the office, but, at the same time, feel like the company's in a better position, and it, it, it's not a dramatic effect on our ability to produce. We think in many cases, actually, taking a smaller number of leads distributed, I mean, taking the same number of leads distributed to a smaller number of reps will actually be an improvement for the reps that are here to make sure that they're being fed. So, overall, I don't think it's gonna be too impactful to our company. It just, you know, obviously impacts the folks that were affected by it. Sounds good and helpful. Just building on that too, for the reps that you still have at Domo, you know, how is productivity trending? Any new initiatives around helping them sell consumption better would be helpful to hear about. Thanks. Yeah, we have all kinds of initiatives around helping them to consumption. You know, we had a board meeting just recently and walked through our consumption deck and showed the board members, you know, all the positive things that are happening and, you know, all the negative things that we might be able to find, as well. You know, the resounding answer was from the board was, "Move as fast as you possibly can. We don't see anything that would cause us concern about you moving as fast as you possibly can." So to that end, you know, doing as many things as we can to drive the transition to consumption, things like we've built out a brand new adoption group that's focused on, you know, going into our, especially our bigger customers and helping them. It's a great phone call. You know, we call a customer, and we're not asking for, we're not asking for a new contract. We're not asking to go get approval from procurement. We're just walking in and saying, "Hey, you know, we'd love to come in and show you best uses for data science," or, "We'd love to come in and talk to you about identifying, you know, opportunities inside your marketing spend." And, you know, they love those conversations. All we're doing is walking in and helping them, but we're helping them identify additional use cases, which, of course, ends up driving consumption. So those are the types of things that we're doing with the customer, and then we're reevaluating the different departments that we have and, you know, what each group does. So, you know, reps, you know, their job, on renewal, what is the job on renewal? Is the job to go and procure another contract, or is the job to help identify some more use cases? And so just identifying those different ways that we can interact with our customers to help get them excited about adding additional users and adding additional use cases, it's really fun for the customer, and it's really fun for us. They end up happier. They end up spending more, and those are the types of things that we can really do to address transitions to consumption. There's some customers that are on seat-based licenses with us, and they don't have access to all the features. We have new features rolling out all the time, and if you want to use those features, then you need to be on consumption. And so, you know, as we go out and market the different product offerings that we have and the new product offerings that we have, those all lead to additional consumption conversations. So we're definitely laser-focused on that. You know, we've seen this 20% cohort of consumption that's in our business today, and it looks better than every other 20% cohort that you could find. So we're gonna do anything and everything we can to get the entire business moved over to that because just everyone ends up happier on the consumption model. Appreciate the color. Thanks. Yeah, you bet. Thank you. Thank you. We'll take our next question from Sanjit Singh with Morgan Stanley. Yeah, thank you for squeezing me in, and sorry, I've been toggling between multiple calls, so if I'm repeating a question, I apologize upfront. But David, just given the sort of the, you know, refinancing of the debt and sort of the higher rate environment and given the sort of actions you guys are doing today on cost, to what extent could debt paydown be part of, like, the capital allocation strategy, given that the budget environment is still pretty constrained right now? How do you look at debt paydown as a potential lever for, you know, increasing sort of, you know, the equity value of the company? Yeah, I mean, the good thing is even sort of as is with a very modest growth expectation for next year, I think, you know, we're free cash flow positive, which puts us in a great position. So if we're able to accomplish some of the things that Josh talked about in accelerating our shift to consumption, and if we get any sort of help from the macro environment, you know, then we're into producing some meaningful cash flow that then could be used to potentially retire some debt. As you know, there's usually some penalties when you pay it down in the first year, so, you know, we'll look at that. But I think it'll be, probably will be a lot better positioned as we move into some of those succeeding years to start, reducing that, you know, well in advance of a maturity, certainly. Great. Appreciate the thoughts. And then, Josh, on, you know, this is kind of coming out of the AWS conference, and when I, you know, hear about people's data strategies, one of the bigger themes is sort of, English being the new programming language and English being the new SQL, and just want to get a sense of how you guys are sort of abstracting away, kind of traditional BI-type user interfaces to more of that, generative AI modality where users are just, you know, sort of, you know, using, you know, natural language, English, to get the insights that they need from, Domo. Yeah, I mean, it's terribly exciting because, you know, one of the most challenging things in business intelligence, or in, leveraging the data that you have in your company is just getting access to it, and the big part of getting access to it is connecting to it, all of the ETL that needs to go into it. And you're right, that's where, you know, these, these, antiquated languages used to be a big part of it, and going forward, it is about English. And we have a bunch of, a bunch of stuff that we've already incorporated into our products, a bunch of AI that we've incorporated into our products, and a bunch of generative AI that we're gonna be incorporating over the next few months into exploring the data, into building cards, into sharing data. You know, having a data set and having AI suggest to you, you know, what you should look at, what format it should look like, being able to pick and choose from things that it suggests to you, fully formed, you know, reports. And so it's gonna dramatically alter the landscape. It's gonna dramatically alter the interactions and the benefits that the customers get, so we're really excited about that. We feel like we're extremely well-positioned. When you look at the data that powers AI, you know, it all depends on how organized that data is, and if your data is organized like a bunch of trash, then that's exactly what you're gonna get back. When you use Domo, you actually not only organize your data, but you have a bunch of metadata about that data, and that's what helps AI really come up with great conclusions when it actually has an indication of what type of data is sitting there. Because, you know, in the data world, it could be anything. It could be unstructured, messy data, and it might be data that's coming from another data warehouse. You actually don't know the root source of it, and so you need to be able to have the metadata around that and have data organized in a way, and that's one of the things that we really do with our customers, is help them organize that so that they can take advantage of all the different technologies and innovations that are rapidly coming out from AI. So we feel like we're extremely well-positioned for that, and that's another big part of, you know, why we want to be in the middle of consumption because, you know, again, if you're using consumption, anything that is in our product, you can try out, and it's gonna cost you $1 to try it out. It's not a, you know, a $50,000 commitment, and you gotta buy a couple seats. It's just go and click on it, see what it does, see if it produces something that's effective, and then if it does, of course, you're gonna start using it more. And because you already know it's effective, even though you're using it more and you're getting a bill for it, you don't care because you already proved the value. So that's another, just another reason why consumption is such an important part of this, where we see, you know, 2x, 3x usage of the additional features and functionality we have in our product when it's a consumption customer because they're able to try it out and prove that it works. So we're really excited about AI and the way it's gonna impact our business, broadly speaking, and feel like we're really well-positioned to take advantage of that. Appreciate the thoughts, Josh. Thank you. You bet. Thanks. Well, that does conclude today's presentation. Thank you for your participation today, and you may now disconnect.
Speaker 5: Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Domo Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2024 Earnings Call. Today's call is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question at that time, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. Again, and that is star one to withdraw your question. I would now like to turn the call over to Peter Lowry, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir. Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Domo Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2024 Earnings Call. good day everyone and welcome to the domo third quarter fiscal year 2024 earnings call Today's call is being recorded. today's call is being recorded All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. after the speaker's remarks there will be a question and answer session If you would like to ask a question at that time, you may press star one on your telephone keypad. if you would like to ask a question at that time you may press star one on your telephone keypad Again, and that is star one to withdraw your question. again and that is star one to withdraw your question I would now like to turn the call over to Peter Lowry, Vice President, Investor Relations. i would now like to turn the call over to peter lowry vice president investor relations Please go ahead, sir. please go ahead sir
Speaker 7: Good afternoon, and welcome. On the call today, we have Josh James, our Founder and CEO, and David Jolley, our Chief Financial Officer. I'll lead off with our safe harbor statement and then onto the call. Our press release was issued after the market closed and is posted on the investor relations section of our website, where this call is also being webcast. Statements made on this call include forward-looking statements related to our business under federal securities laws. These statements are subject to a variety of risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. These include, but are not limited to, statements about future prospects or financial projections and cash position. Statements regarding the potential of our consumption-based pricing, statements about our sales team and technology, our expectations for new business opportunities, transactions, and initiatives. Good afternoon, and welcome. good afternoon and welcome On the call today, we have Josh James, our Founder and CEO, and David Jolley, our Chief Financial Officer. on the call today we have josh james our founder and ceo and david jolley our chief financial officer I'll lead off with our safe harbor statement and then onto the call. i'll lead off with our safe harbor statement and then onto the call Our press release was issued after the market closed and is posted on the investor relations section of our website, where this call is also being webcast. our press release was issued after the market closed and is posted on the investor relations section of our website where this call is also being webcast Statements made on this call include forward-looking statements related to our business under federal securities laws. statements made on this call include forward-looking statements related to our business under federal securities laws These statements are subject to a variety of risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. these statements are subject to a variety of risks uncertainties and assumptions These include, but are not limited to, statements about future prospects or financial projections and cash position. these include but are not limited to statements about future prospects or financial projections and cash position Statements regarding the potential of our consumption-based pricing, statements about our sales team and technology, our expectations for new business opportunities, transactions, and initiatives. statements regarding the potential of our consumption-based pricing statements about our sales team and technology our expectations for new business opportunities transactions and initiatives Statements regarding our channel of communications and upcoming events, statements regarding the potential of artificial intelligence and its impact on our business, and statements regarding the impact of macroeconomic and other conditions on our business. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the documents we filed with the SEC. In particular, today's press release, our most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K, and our most recently filed quarterly report on Form 10-Q. These documents contain and identify important risk factors and other information that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those contained in our forward-looking statements. In addition, during today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are useful as supplemental measures of Domo's performance. Other than revenue, unless otherwise stated, we will be discussing our results of operations on a non-GAAP basis. Statements regarding our channel of communications and upcoming events, statements regarding the potential of artificial intelligence and its impact on our business, and statements regarding the impact of macroeconomic and other conditions on our business. statements regarding our channel of communications and upcoming events statements regarding the potential of artificial intelligence and its impact on our business and statements regarding the impact of macroeconomic and other conditions on our business For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the documents we filed with the SEC. for a discussion of these risks and uncertainties please refer to the documents we filed with the sec In particular, today's press release, our most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K, and our most recently filed quarterly report on Form 10-Q. in particular today's press release our most recently filed annual report on form 10-k and our most recently filed quarterly report on form 10-q These documents contain and identify important risk factors and other information that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those contained in our forward-looking statements. these documents contain and identify important risk factors and other information that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those contained in our forward-looking statements In addition, during today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are useful as supplemental measures of Domo's performance. in addition during today's call we will discuss non-gaap financial measures which we believe are useful as supplemental measures of domo's performance Other than revenue, unless otherwise stated, we will be discussing our results of operations on a non-GAAP basis. other than revenue unless otherwise stated we will be discussing our results of operations on a non-gaap basis These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to, and not as a substitute for or an isolation from our GAAP results. Please refer to the tables in our earnings press release for a reconciliation of our non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measure, which we have posted to the investor relations section of our website at domoinvestors.com. With that, I'll turn it over to Josh. Josh? These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to, and not as a substitute for or an isolation from our GAAP results. these non-gaap measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for or an isolation from our gaap results Please refer to the tables in our earnings press release for a reconciliation of our non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measure, which we have posted to the investor relations section of our website at domoinvestors.com. please refer to the tables in our earnings press release for a reconciliation of our non-gaap financial measures to their most directly comparable gaap measure which we have posted to the investor relations section of our website at domoinvestors.com With that, I'll turn it over to Josh. with that i'll turn it over to josh Josh? josh
Speaker 4: Thank you, Pete, and thank you everyone for joining the call today. In Q3, we were able to exceed guidance for our key top-line metrics, including revenue, subscription revenue, and billings. A highlight in the quarter is that we had our highest operating income in history of $5 million, and our highest operating margin in history of 6%. Over the past few years, and especially the last few quarters, we have been incubating critical pivots that are finally coming together. They are clear and powerful priorities that are removing friction and strengthening our ability to deliver unmatched value to the market. Specifically, several years ago, we decided to test an idea. What would customers do if they had unlimited access to features for an unlimited number of users and all visualization for free? It was a simple value prop to customers: pay for the value you are realizing. Thank you, Pete, and thank you everyone for joining the call today. thank you pete and thank you everyone for joining the call today In Q3, we were able to exceed guidance for our key top-line metrics, including revenue, subscription revenue, and billings. in q3 we were able to exceed guidance for our key top-line metrics including revenue subscription revenue and billings A highlight in the quarter is that we had our highest operating income in history of $5 million, and our highest operating margin in history of 6%. a highlight in the quarter is that we had our highest operating income in history of $5 million and our highest operating margin in history of 6% Over the past few years, and especially the last few quarters, we have been incubating critical pivots that are finally coming together. over the past few years and especially the last few quarters we have been incubating critical pivots that are finally coming together They are clear and powerful priorities that are removing friction and strengthening our ability to deliver unmatched value to the market. they are clear and powerful priorities that are removing friction and strengthening our ability to deliver unmatched value to the market Specifically, several years ago, we decided to test an idea. specifically several years ago we decided to test an idea What would customers do if they had unlimited access to features for an unlimited number of users and all visualization for free? what would customers do if they had unlimited access to features for an unlimited number of users and all visualization for free It was a simple value prop to customers: pay for the value you are realizing. it was a simple value prop to customers pay for the value you are realizing Well, after positive feedback, we decided to run an even broader pilot last year, and the pilot proved to be a smash hit. We now feel like we've reached critical mass with over 20% of our ARR on the consumption model. As we continue to look at the results from this very large sample size, we feel very confident in making the decision and saying we're going all in on consumption. By the end of next year, we expect to have the vast majority of our revenue on the consumption model. Again, we now have over 400 customers on consumption contracts, representing over 15% of our customer base and over 20% of our ARR. Well, after positive feedback, we decided to run an even broader pilot last year, and the pilot proved to be a smash hit. well after positive feedback we decided to run an even broader pilot last year and the pilot proved to be a smash hit We now feel like we've reached critical mass with over 20% of our ARR on the consumption model. we now feel like we've reached critical mass with over 20% of our arr on the consumption model As we continue to look at the results from this very large sample size, we feel very confident in making the decision and saying we're going all in on consumption. as we continue to look at the results from this very large sample size we feel very confident in making the decision and saying we're going all in on consumption By the end of next year, we expect to have the vast majority of our revenue on the consumption model. by the end of next year we expect to have the vast majority of our revenue on the consumption model Again, we now have over 400 customers on consumption contracts, representing over 15% of our customer base and over 20% of our ARR. again we now have over 400 customers on consumption contracts representing over 15% of our customer base and over 20% of our arr When customers move to consumption, we are seeing user counts growing at almost three times the speed of seat-based customers, and we are seeing three times the adoption rate on premium features like data science. We've also rolled out reporting so our customers can see in real time what their consumption patterns are. So far, even with the highest usage our customers are seeing, the feedback has been incredibly positive because customers recognize the value of that usage. As an example, it took us eight years at a fast food chain to get an ARR of about $200,000. Now that they've converted to consumption, this company has committed to an ARR of over $550,000 over the next three years by expanding the use of Domo across the organization. When customers move to consumption, we are seeing user counts growing at almost three times the speed of seat-based customers, and we are seeing three times the adoption rate on premium features like data science. when customers move to consumption we are seeing user counts growing at almost three times the speed of seat-based customers and we are seeing three times the adoption rate on premium features like data science We've also rolled out reporting so our customers can see in real time what their consumption patterns are. we've also rolled out reporting so our customers can see in real time what their consumption patterns are So far, even with the highest usage our customers are seeing, the feedback has been incredibly positive because customers recognize the value of that usage. so far even with the highest usage our customers are seeing the feedback has been incredibly positive because customers recognize the value of that usage As an example, it took us eight years at a fast food chain to get an ARR of about $200,000. as an example it took us eight years at a fast food chain to get an arr of about $200,000 Now that they've converted to consumption, this company has committed to an ARR of over $550,000 over the next three years by expanding the use of Domo across the organization. now that they've converted to consumption this company has committed to an arr of over $550,000 over the next three years by expanding the use of domo across the organization One fun story to relate that has happened to me on multiple occasions over the last few months is watching how our customers react to the new model. I've seen the epiphanies go off in their eyes as they recognize, and then look at people internally in the room, and tell them conclusively that because they now have unlimited users, they can start looking at sunsetting all of their other BI technologies and legacy reporting tools and use Domo instead. Well, I couldn't have said it better myself. In support of our consumption strategy and to pave a completely open path to adoption, we've also launched a new freemium model. Freemium was impossible before our consumption model and gives everyone a risk-free opportunity to get in and try Domo with no obligations and no restrictions. One fun story to relate that has happened to me on multiple occasions over the last few months is watching how our customers react to the new model. one fun story to relate that has happened to me on multiple occasions over the last few months is watching how our customers react to the new model I've seen the epiphanies go off in their eyes as they recognize, and then look at people internally in the room, and tell them conclusively that because they now have unlimited users, they can start looking at sunsetting all of their other BI technologies and legacy reporting tools and use Domo instead. i've seen the epiphanies go off in their eyes as they recognize and then look at people internally in the room and tell them conclusively that because they now have unlimited users they can start looking at sunsetting all of their other bi technologies and legacy reporting tools and use domo instead Well, I couldn't have said it better myself. well i couldn't have said it better myself In support of our consumption strategy and to pave a completely open path to adoption, we've also launched a new freemium model. in support of our consumption strategy and to pave a completely open path to adoption we've also launched a new freemium model Freemium was impossible before our consumption model and gives everyone a risk-free opportunity to get in and try Domo with no obligations and no restrictions. freemium was impossible before our consumption model and gives everyone a risk-free opportunity to get in and try domo with no obligations and no restrictions Domo customers have access to all the Domo features with unlimited users, and they can tackle any use case they want. When they want to go bigger, they can click from within Domo to buy consumption credits and have an unlimited highway to multiply their impact on their business. This approach seamlessly aligns with our core philosophy of delivering value before requiring payment, reinforcing our commitment to providing accessible and valuable solutions to our users. We rolled out our free offering last month, and we'll be rapidly iterating on it over the next quarter to focus on user experience and easy onboarding. We think that long-term, this alters our ability to attract new customers and give them a friction-free path to move through the pipeline from free to paid usage, to sharing with more users, to broad use case adoption. Domo customers have access to all the Domo features with unlimited users, and they can tackle any use case they want. domo customers have access to all the domo features with unlimited users and they can tackle any use case they want When they want to go bigger, they can click from within Domo to buy consumption credits and have an unlimited highway to multiply their impact on their business. when they want to go bigger they can click from within domo to buy consumption credits and have an unlimited highway to multiply their impact on their business This approach seamlessly aligns with our core philosophy of delivering value before requiring payment, reinforcing our commitment to providing accessible and valuable solutions to our users. this approach seamlessly aligns with our core philosophy of delivering value before requiring payment reinforcing our commitment to providing accessible and valuable solutions to our users We rolled out our free offering last month, and we'll be rapidly iterating on it over the next quarter to focus on user experience and easy onboarding. we rolled out our free offering last month and we'll be rapidly iterating on it over the next quarter to focus on user experience and easy onboarding We think that long-term, this alters our ability to attract new customers and give them a friction-free path to move through the pipeline from free to paid usage, to sharing with more users, to broad use case adoption. we think that long-term this alters our ability to attract new customers and give them a friction-free path to move through the pipeline from free to paid usage to sharing with more users to broad use case adoption Of course, this naturally leads to expanding credits and being ready for a long-term relationship with our sales and support organization. This new flow evolves us from having to work with cold leads, to being able to talk with happy customers who already see the value of the platform and are ready to lean in more. To demonstrate the power of having a freemium model, let me share a story from two weeks ago. Our sales team had been calling a CTO prospect for over a year with no luck. One of our salespeople called the CTO on a Friday afternoon and left a message about freemium and the free credits it comes with. The CTO proceeded to sign up for a free instance, and over the weekend, multiple users connected to disparate data sources and built data flows, powering over 40 reports. Of course, this naturally leads to expanding credits and being ready for a long-term relationship with our sales and support organization. of course this naturally leads to expanding credits and being ready for a long-term relationship with our sales and support organization This new flow evolves us from having to work with cold leads, to being able to talk with happy customers who already see the value of the platform and are ready to lean in more. this new flow evolves us from having to work with cold leads to being able to talk with happy customers who already see the value of the platform and are ready to lean in more To demonstrate the power of having a freemium model, let me share a story from two weeks ago. to demonstrate the power of having a freemium model let me share a story from two weeks ago Our sales team had been calling a CTO prospect for over a year with no luck. our sales team had been calling a cto prospect for over a year with no luck One of our salespeople called the CTO on a Friday afternoon and left a message about freemium and the free credits it comes with. one of our salespeople called the cto on a friday afternoon and left a message about freemium and the free credits it comes with The CTO proceeded to sign up for a free instance, and over the weekend, multiple users connected to disparate data sources and built data flows, powering over 40 reports. the cto proceeded to sign up for a free instance and over the weekend multiple users connected to disparate data sources and built data flows powering over 40 reports By Monday, the CTO was in love with the product and signed up for a three-year deal with a total contract value well into the six figures. That was a three-day sales cycle. Our freemium product also completely changes the conversation with potential partners who have wanted to leverage our Domo Everywhere product to deliver data experiences through Domo for their own customers. In the past, if we had a customer with, say, 20,000 external end users, it would have required a major upfront investment, which often led our customer to reduce the use case to maybe just the top 5% of external customers. With freemium, however, we can give all 20,000 of those users a free instance of Domo immediately at no cost. By Monday, the CTO was in love with the product and signed up for a three-year deal with a total contract value well into the six figures. by monday the cto was in love with the product and signed up for a three-year deal with a total contract value well into the six figures That was a three-day sales cycle. that was a three-day sales cycle Our freemium product also completely changes the conversation with potential partners who have wanted to leverage our Domo Everywhere product to deliver data experiences through Domo for their own customers. our freemium product also completely changes the conversation with potential partners who have wanted to leverage our domo everywhere product to deliver data experiences through domo for their own customers In the past, if we had a customer with, say, 20,000 external end users, it would have required a major upfront investment, which often led our customer to reduce the use case to maybe just the top 5% of external customers. in the past if we had a customer with say 20,000 external end users it would have required a major upfront investment which often led our customer to reduce the use case to maybe just the top 5% of external customers With freemium, however, we can give all 20,000 of those users a free instance of Domo immediately at no cost. with freemium however we can give all 20,000 of those users a free instance of domo immediately at no cost This creates a very meaningful introduction to Domo for those end users with an obvious upgrade experience, because they can experience the value and immediately expand and put more of their own data in our platform. In a consumption world, focusing on adoption through product-led growth and support programs is the critical path to success for both customers and for Domo. Increased adoption leads to happier and more successful customers, and the corollary is, of course, increased revenue. As we roll out features and training that support adoption, we have seen our customers rapidly expand their usage of our platform compared to when they were under seat-based pricing. For example, one of our largest customers had been a customer for six years. In those first six years, they had grown to 3,500 active users and 17 departments. Then they converted to our consumption model. The growth was rapid. This creates a very meaningful introduction to Domo for those end users with an obvious upgrade experience, because they can experience the value and immediately expand and put more of their own data in our platform. this creates a very meaningful introduction to domo for those end users with an obvious upgrade experience because they can experience the value and immediately expand and put more of their own data in our platform In a consumption world, focusing on adoption through product-led growth and support programs is the critical path to success for both customers and for Domo. in a consumption world focusing on adoption through product-led growth and support programs is the critical path to success for both customers and for domo Increased adoption leads to happier and more successful customers, and the corollary is, of course, increased revenue. increased adoption leads to happier and more successful customers and the corollary is of course increased revenue As we roll out features and training that support adoption, we have seen our customers rapidly expand their usage of our platform compared to when they were under seat-based pricing. as we roll out features and training that support adoption we have seen our customers rapidly expand their usage of our platform compared to when they were under seat-based pricing For example, one of our largest customers had been a customer for six years. for example one of our largest customers had been a customer for six years In those first six years, they had grown to 3,500 active users and 17 departments. in those first six years they had grown to 3,500 active users and 17 departments Then they converted to our consumption model. then they converted to our consumption model The growth was rapid. the growth was rapid In just one additional year, they added 2,300 more active users and more than doubled the number of departments and use cases. This has dramatically increased the return for the customer and, of course, has strengthened our relationship in the account. In support of our shift to the consumption model, focusing on our customers' adoption of our platform brings complete alignment between us and our customers around multiplying value. It's all about opening up unlimited use cases to address a completely expanding list of customer needs, and it helps us learn more about what drives customer success. For example, which product features and functionality in our products really drive expanded usage? What of our support behaviors drive additional adoption of our products? It shifts the dynamic from trying to sell the customer more products to helping them find more ways to receive value. In just one additional year, they added 2,300 more active users and more than doubled the number of departments and use cases. in just one additional year they added 2,300 more active users and more than doubled the number of departments and use cases This has dramatically increased the return for the customer and, of course, has strengthened our relationship in the account. this has dramatically increased the return for the customer and of course has strengthened our relationship in the account In support of our shift to the consumption model, focusing on our customers' adoption of our platform brings complete alignment between us and our customers around multiplying value. in support of our shift to the consumption model focusing on our customers' adoption of our platform brings complete alignment between us and our customers around multiplying value It's all about opening up unlimited use cases to address a completely expanding list of customer needs, and it helps us learn more about what drives customer success. it's all about opening up unlimited use cases to address a completely expanding list of customer needs and it helps us learn more about what drives customer success For example, which product features and functionality in our products really drive expanded usage? for example which product features and functionality in our products really drive expanded usage What of our support behaviors drive additional adoption of our products? what of our support behaviors drive additional adoption of our products It shifts the dynamic from trying to sell the customer more products to helping them find more ways to receive value. it shifts the dynamic from trying to sell the customer more products to helping them find more ways to receive value Now, the progress we've made with our consumption model and with our launch of freemium has dramatically altered our ability to be successful within the ecosystem and our partners. Only recently, we've changed our architecture to allow Domo to drive consumption for partners like Snowflake, AWS, and Microsoft. Before now, we've had conflict in the channel, where we sometimes drove consumption or compute away from our vendors. With the architecture changes, we now allow customers to choose to keep the data and the associated querying and processing of data with our partners. It was a substantial investment on our part, but we are very excited that this has all been reconciled. Because of these changes, we'll be making some announcements soon, describing partnerships where customers are able to retire spend by purchasing Domo through various app stores and marketplaces from major tech players. Now, the progress we've made with our consumption model and with our launch of freemium has dramatically altered our ability to be successful within the ecosystem and our partners. now the progress we've made with our consumption model and with our launch of freemium has dramatically altered our ability to be successful within the ecosystem and our partners Only recently, we've changed our architecture to allow Domo to drive consumption for partners like Snowflake, AWS, and Microsoft. only recently we've changed our architecture to allow domo to drive consumption for partners like snowflake aws and microsoft Before now, we've had conflict in the channel, where we sometimes drove consumption or compute away from our vendors. before now we've had conflict in the channel where we sometimes drove consumption or compute away from our vendors With the architecture changes, we now allow customers to choose to keep the data and the associated querying and processing of data with our partners. with the architecture changes we now allow customers to choose to keep the data and the associated querying and processing of data with our partners It was a substantial investment on our part, but we are very excited that this has all been reconciled. it was a substantial investment on our part but we are very excited that this has all been reconciled Because of these changes, we'll be making some announcements soon, describing partnerships where customers are able to retire spend by purchasing Domo through various app stores and marketplaces from major tech players. because of these changes we'll be making some announcements soon describing partnerships where customers are able to retire spend by purchasing domo through various app stores and marketplaces from major tech players As it relates to AI, this is another area where consumption allows our customers to get in and start seeing the value of AI in their business without an upfront commitment or investment. As mentioned earlier, we've seen dramatically higher uptake in our data science offerings among our consumption customers compared to our seat-based customers, and we expect to see similar levels of adoption as we continue to expand our AI service layer and other AI offerings. The consumption model will expose many more customers to AI because they don't have to sign a contract before they start using it. This, in turn, of course, drives consumption. We have several AI-related product launches lined up for the coming months that will help our customers build reports and interact with their data in a ChatGPT-like fashion. As it relates to AI, this is another area where consumption allows our customers to get in and start seeing the value of AI in their business without an upfront commitment or investment. as it relates to ai this is another area where consumption allows our customers to get in and start seeing the value of ai in their business without an upfront commitment or investment As mentioned earlier, we've seen dramatically higher uptake in our data science offerings among our consumption customers compared to our seat-based customers, and we expect to see similar levels of adoption as we continue to expand our AI service layer and other AI offerings. as mentioned earlier we've seen dramatically higher uptake in our data science offerings among our consumption customers compared to our seat-based customers and we expect to see similar levels of adoption as we continue to expand our ai service layer and other ai offerings The consumption model will expose many more customers to AI because they don't have to sign a contract before they start using it. the consumption model will expose many more customers to ai because they don't have to sign a contract before they start using it This, in turn, of course, drives consumption. this in turn of course drives consumption We have several AI-related product launches lined up for the coming months that will help our customers build reports and interact with their data in a ChatGPT-like fashion. we have several ai-related product launches lined up for the coming months that will help our customers build reports and interact with their data in a chatgpt-like fashion Now, to illustrate the impact of this new model that has already penetrated over 20% of our ARR, please let me share some real-life examples from some of our customers. So first, a significant new logo win with a Canadian retailer that was using competing BI solutions, was having issues with siloed data and with connecting to data in disparate systems. The company chose Domo for our consumption model, which made it easy for them to sunset legacy seat-based tools, where they weren't sure they were getting the value that they needed. We are starting to see more and more of these cases, and it's certainly good to be the consolidator. A healthcare software company was using our Domo Everywhere solution to provide data to their medical customers. Now, to illustrate the impact of this new model that has already penetrated over 20% of our ARR, please let me share some real-life examples from some of our customers. now to illustrate the impact of this new model that has already penetrated over 20% of our arr please let me share some real-life examples from some of our customers So first, a significant new logo win with a Canadian retailer that was using competing BI solutions, was having issues with siloed data and with connecting to data in disparate systems. so first a significant new logo win with a canadian retailer that was using competing bi solutions was having issues with siloed data and with connecting to data in disparate systems The company chose Domo for our consumption model, which made it easy for them to sunset legacy seat-based tools, where they weren't sure they were getting the value that they needed. the company chose domo for our consumption model which made it easy for them to sunset legacy seat-based tools where they weren't sure they were getting the value that they needed We are starting to see more and more of these cases, and it's certainly good to be the consolidator. we are starting to see more and more of these cases and it's certainly good to be the consolidator A healthcare software company was using our Domo Everywhere solution to provide data to their medical customers. a healthcare software company was using our domo everywhere solution to provide data to their medical customers The company was adding new Domo Everywhere customers at a faster rate than expected, and it was challenging under a seat-based model, where they had to commit to their investment before receiving the value. Since transferring over to consumption now, our customer has tripled their contract size with us, and yes, that math works. An educational software company was debating which vendor to use for their ETL needs. They entered into an upsell contract with Domo, not only because of our ETL features, but because our consumption contract structure allowed them to predict their cost with a high level of confidence. Additionally, the company had been considering using Domo Everywhere to provide embedded analytics to thousands of their end users. Moving to a consumption model opened the door for them to test out our Domo Everywhere experience in a very cost-effective manner. The company was adding new Domo Everywhere customers at a faster rate than expected, and it was challenging under a seat-based model, where they had to commit to their investment before receiving the value. the company was adding new domo everywhere customers at a faster rate than expected and it was challenging under a seat-based model where they had to commit to their investment before receiving the value Since transferring over to consumption now, our customer has tripled their contract size with us, and yes, that math works. since transferring over to consumption now our customer has tripled their contract size with us and yes that math works An educational software company was debating which vendor to use for their ETL needs. an educational software company was debating which vendor to use for their etl needs They entered into an upsell contract with Domo, not only because of our ETL features, but because our consumption contract structure allowed them to predict their cost with a high level of confidence. they entered into an upsell contract with domo not only because of our etl features but because our consumption contract structure allowed them to predict their cost with a high level of confidence Additionally, the company had been considering using Domo Everywhere to provide embedded analytics to thousands of their end users. additionally the company had been considering using domo everywhere to provide embedded analytics to thousands of their end users Moving to a consumption model opened the door for them to test out our Domo Everywhere experience in a very cost-effective manner. moving to a consumption model opened the door for them to test out our domo everywhere experience in a very cost-effective manner And then, because of the value they're seeing in the Domo platform, this customer has committed to dramatically alter the scale of their investment and agreed to a two-year, six-figure ARR contract in Q3, with a significant upsell built into the second year. Is consumption driving adoption? It certainly looks like it. Another example is a financial services company that purchased Domo to consolidate data from multiple loan origination systems. The consumption model was key to their decision to go with Domo because it unlocked our data science and sandbox features, which were critical to their use case and would have been outside their budget under our seat-based model. Does access to all of Domo help customers unlock the value of the entire platform and become more committed to the entirety of our platform? I think so. And then, because of the value they're seeing in the Domo platform, this customer has committed to dramatically alter the scale of their investment and agreed to a two-year, six-figure ARR contract in Q3, with a significant upsell built into the second year. and then because of the value they're seeing in the domo platform this customer has committed to dramatically alter the scale of their investment and agreed to a two-year six-figure arr contract in q3 with a significant upsell built into the second year Is consumption driving adoption? is consumption driving adoption It certainly looks like it. it certainly looks like it Another example is a financial services company that purchased Domo to consolidate data from multiple loan origination systems. another example is a financial services company that purchased domo to consolidate data from multiple loan origination systems The consumption model was key to their decision to go with Domo because it unlocked our data science and sandbox features, which were critical to their use case and would have been outside their budget under our seat-based model. the consumption model was key to their decision to go with domo because it unlocked our data science and sandbox features which were critical to their use case and would have been outside their budget under our seat-based model Does access to all of Domo help customers unlock the value of the entire platform and become more committed to the entirety of our platform? does access to all of domo help customers unlock the value of the entire platform and become more committed to the entirety of our platform I think so. i think so A digital customer engagement platform company has been a Domo customer for a decade. The initial use case was for sales and marketing analytics. However, about a year ago, the company was considering a cancellation because they felt like they were paying too much per seat for about 350 users. What saved the account was a move to consumption with unlimited users. Using our product, they created an app, and because they have unlimited users, they were able to deploy the app company-wide and now have over 1,000 users on Domo's platform. Not only did we save an account that was going to cancel, several months after they converted to consumption, they actually committed to an increased level of consumption and upped their spend with us. Now, would we have been able to save this customer without consumption? No. A digital customer engagement platform company has been a Domo customer for a decade. a digital customer engagement platform company has been a domo customer for a decade The initial use case was for sales and marketing analytics. the initial use case was for sales and marketing analytics However, about a year ago, the company was considering a cancellation because they felt like they were paying too much per seat for about 350 users. however about a year ago the company was considering a cancellation because they felt like they were paying too much per seat for about 350 users What saved the account was a move to consumption with unlimited users. what saved the account was a move to consumption with unlimited users Using our product, they created an app, and because they have unlimited users, they were able to deploy the app company-wide and now have over 1,000 users on Domo's platform. using our product they created an app and because they have unlimited users they were able to deploy the app company-wide and now have over 1,000 users on domo's platform Not only did we save an account that was going to cancel, several months after they converted to consumption, they actually committed to an increased level of consumption and upped their spend with us. not only did we save an account that was going to cancel several months after they converted to consumption they actually committed to an increased level of consumption and upped their spend with us Now, would we have been able to save this customer without consumption? now would we have been able to save this customer without consumption No. no Now we have an upsell. Looking outside of Q3, here's a few more examples of how consumption is changing the game for us. A healthcare analytics company, which is using several of our larger competitors, is looking to replace some BusinessObjects and other legacy providers. Consumption is allowing the company to replace the other vendors and expand Domo without the friction of a new contract discussion. Can Domo benefit from vendor consolidation? Yes, we can. Another small highlight is a digital asset company that was about to cancel because they thought we were too expensive for the number of users they had in the account on seat-based pricing. They moved to a consumption contract with unlimited users. Additionally, they agreed to triple their contract size, and then, just last week, agreed to triple it again. Now we have an upsell. now we have an upsell Looking outside of Q3, here's a few more examples of how consumption is changing the game for us. looking outside of q3 here's a few more examples of how consumption is changing the game for us A healthcare analytics company, which is using several of our larger competitors, is looking to replace some Business Objects and other legacy providers. a healthcare analytics company which is using several of our larger competitors is looking to replace some business objects and other legacy providers Consumption is allowing the company to replace the other vendors and expand Domo without the friction of a new contract discussion. consumption is allowing the company to replace the other vendors and expand domo without the friction of a new contract discussion Can Domo benefit from vendor consolidation? can domo benefit from vendor consolidation Yes, we can. yes we can Another small highlight is a digital asset company that was about to cancel because they thought we were too expensive for the number of users they had in the account on seat-based pricing. another small highlight is a digital asset company that was about to cancel because they thought we were too expensive for the number of users they had in the account on seat-based pricing They moved to a consumption contract with unlimited users. they moved to a consumption contract with unlimited users Additionally, they agreed to triple their contract size, and then, just last week, agreed to triple it again. additionally they agreed to triple their contract size and then just last week agreed to triple it again So they are now close to 10x their original size, as opposed to just recently being on the brink of canceling. Do I wish that all my customers were on consumption contracts? Yes, I do. Lastly, an insurance company that was paying us $200,000 a year moved to consumption because our seat-based model didn't allow them to expand as rapidly as they wanted to. With the initial move to consumption, they increased their contract with us by over $100,000. Fifteen months later, after they'd been able to fully realize the value Domo can provide due to having unlimited users and functionality, they added another $200,000 annually to their contract to replace their spend with Cognos. So they are now close to 10x their original size, as opposed to just recently being on the brink of canceling. so they are now close to 10x their original size as opposed to just recently being on the brink of canceling Do I wish that all my customers were on consumption contracts? do i wish that all my customers were on consumption contracts Yes, I do. yes i do Lastly, an insurance company that was paying us $200,000 a year moved to consumption because our seat-based model didn't allow them to expand as rapidly as they wanted to. lastly an insurance company that was paying us $200,000 a year moved to consumption because our seat-based model didn't allow them to expand as rapidly as they wanted to With the initial move to consumption, they increased their contract with us by over $100,000. with the initial move to consumption they increased their contract with us by over $100,000 Fifteen months later, after they'd been able to fully realize the value Domo can provide due to having unlimited users and functionality, they added another $200,000 annually to their contract to replace their spend with Cognos. fifteen months later after they'd been able to fully realize the value domo can provide due to having unlimited users and functionality they added another $200,000 annually to their contract to replace their spend with cognos So in totality, I think these are some great examples of multiple customers that highlight the progress we are making as a company. Now, while we are marching toward improving the prospects of the company, we are also optimizing our costs so we can operate as efficiently as possible. To that end, we've made changes that impact approximately 7% of our workforce, as well as reductions in contractors, marketing programs, and other expenses. We are cognizant of the effect this has on people and would like to take a moment to express our gratitude to everyone for their contributions. As we look to the future, I'm sure you can feel my energy around these pivots we're making and the signals we're seeing from customers and partners that resoundingly has convinced us that they are the right moves. So in totality, I think these are some great examples of multiple customers that highlight the progress we are making as a company. so in totality i think these are some great examples of multiple customers that highlight the progress we are making as a company Now, while we are marching toward improving the prospects of the company, we are also optimizing our costs so we can operate as efficiently as possible. now while we are marching toward improving the prospects of the company we are also optimizing our costs so we can operate as efficiently as possible To that end, we've made changes that impact approximately 7% of our workforce, as well as reductions in contractors, marketing programs, and other expenses. to that end we've made changes that impact approximately 7% of our workforce as well as reductions in contractors marketing programs and other expenses We are cognizant of the effect this has on people and would like to take a moment to express our gratitude to everyone for their contributions. we are cognizant of the effect this has on people and would like to take a moment to express our gratitude to everyone for their contributions As we look to the future, I'm sure you can feel my energy around these pivots we're making and the signals we're seeing from customers and partners that resoundingly has convinced us that they are the right moves. as we look to the future i'm sure you can feel my energy around these pivots we're making and the signals we're seeing from customers and partners that resoundingly has convinced us that they are the right moves Even when we were growing 30% quarter-over-quarter, year-over-year, I wasn't this optimistic about our future and our stability as I am now. We're quickly migrating to the consumption model. In Q4, we'll have the vast majority of our new logo customers on consumption, and we will continue to encourage our existing customers to switch to consumption, resulting in the vast majority of our ARR transition to the consumption model within the next year. Freemium, our adoption programs, and our AI investments will continue to bolster our efforts in moving to consumption, where customers are able to experience value and see the vision of what Domo can mean to their company before having to pay and commit to everything. Even when we were growing 30% quarter-over-quarter, year-over-year, I wasn't this optimistic about our future and our stability as I am now. even when we were growing 30% quarter-over-quarter year-over-year i wasn't this optimistic about our future and our stability as i am now We're quickly migrating to the consumption model. we're quickly migrating to the consumption model In Q4, we'll have the vast majority of our new logo customers on consumption, and we will continue to encourage our existing customers to switch to consumption, resulting in the vast majority of our ARR transition to the consumption model within the next year. in q4 we'll have the vast majority of our new logo customers on consumption and we will continue to encourage our existing customers to switch to consumption resulting in the vast majority of our arr transition to the consumption model within the next year Freemium, our adoption programs, and our AI investments will continue to bolster our efforts in moving to consumption, where customers are able to experience value and see the vision of what Domo can mean to their company before having to pay and commit to everything. freemium our adoption programs and our ai investments will continue to bolster our efforts in moving to consumption where customers are able to experience value and see the vision of what domo can mean to their company before having to pay and commit to everything All of these changes will also lead to a dramatic shift in our approach and success with partners and the broader ecosystem over the next 12 months, which should meaningfully impact our ability to generate leads efficiently. Domo is becoming a much more interesting company with prospects that excite our broader team. With that, I'll now turn it over to David. All of these changes will also lead to a dramatic shift in our approach and success with partners and the broader ecosystem over the next 12 months, which should meaningfully impact our ability to generate leads efficiently. all of these changes will also lead to a dramatic shift in our approach and success with partners and the broader ecosystem over the next 12 months which should meaningfully impact our ability to generate leads efficiently Domo is becoming a much more interesting company with prospects that excite our broader team. domo is becoming a much more interesting company with prospects that excite our broader team With that, I'll now turn it over to David. with that i'll now turn it over to david
Speaker 2: Thanks, Josh. I love those examples. Like you, I'm excited about our key areas of focus and believe we are really well positioned to execute on the opportunities in front of us. Now, while we aspire to higher growth rates than we're currently experiencing, I'm pleased that we were able to exceed the billings guidance that we provided at the beginning of the quarter. We delivered Q3 billings of $74.8 million, a year-over-year increase of 1%. Total revenue was $79.7 million, also a year-over-year increase of 1%. Subscription revenue represented 89% of our total revenue and grew- Thanks, Josh. thanks josh I love those examples. i love those examples Like you, I'm excited about our key areas of focus and believe we are really well positioned to execute on the opportunities in front of us. like you i'm excited about our key areas of focus and believe we are really well positioned to execute on the opportunities in front of us Now, while we aspire to higher growth rates than we're currently experiencing, I'm pleased that we were able to exceed the billings guidance that we provided at the beginning of the quarter. now while we aspire to higher growth rates than we're currently experiencing i'm pleased that we were able to exceed the billings guidance that we provided at the beginning of the quarter We delivered Q3 billings of $74.8 million, a year-over-year increase of 1%. we delivered q3 billings of $74.8 million a year-over-year increase of 1% Total revenue was $79.7 million, also a year-over-year increase of 1%. total revenue was $79.7 million also a year-over-year increase of 1% Subscription revenue represented 89% of our total revenue and grew- subscription revenue represented 89% of our total revenue and grew-
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Speaker 2: All right. Very good. Sorry for the short delay. But thanks, Josh, I appreciate that and appreciate the those great examples. Like you, I'm excited about our key areas of focus and believe we're well-positioned to execute on the opportunities in front of us. Now, while we aspire to higher growth rates than we're currently experiencing, I'm pleased that we were able to exceed the billings guidance that we provided at the beginning of the quarter. We delivered Q3 billings of $74.8 million, a year-over-year increase of 1%. Total revenue was $79.7 million, also a year-over-year increase of 1%. Subscription revenue represented 89% of our total revenue and grew 3% year-over-year, and our ARR grew roughly in line with subscription revenue growth. All right. all right Very good. very good Sorry for the short delay. sorry for the short delay But thanks, Josh, I appreciate that and appreciate the those great examples. but thanks josh i appreciate that and appreciate the those great examples Like you, I'm excited about our key areas of focus and believe we're well-positioned to execute on the opportunities in front of us. like you i'm excited about our key areas of focus and believe we're well-positioned to execute on the opportunities in front of us Now, while we aspire to higher growth rates than we're currently experiencing, I'm pleased that we were able to exceed the billings guidance that we provided at the beginning of the quarter. now while we aspire to higher growth rates than we're currently experiencing i'm pleased that we were able to exceed the billings guidance that we provided at the beginning of the quarter We delivered Q3 billings of $74.8 million, a year-over-year increase of 1%. we delivered q3 billings of $74.8 million a year-over-year increase of 1% Total revenue was $79.7 million, also a year-over-year increase of 1%. total revenue was $79.7 million also a year-over-year increase of 1% Subscription revenue represented 89% of our total revenue and grew 3% year-over-year, and our ARR grew roughly in line with subscription revenue growth. subscription revenue represented 89% of our total revenue and grew 3% year-over-year and our arr grew roughly in line with subscription revenue growth In reviewing the metrics that will impact the remainder of the year, our current RPO is $230.8 million, consistent with last year, and our total RPO grew 4% to $367.2 million as of October thirty-first. On a dollar weighted measure, we continue to have approximately two-thirds of our customers under multi-year contracts. Our gross retention was above 85%, net retention was about 95%. Last quarter, we identified potential renewal challenges with several large customers, and while we and some of our customers continue to face challenging IT spending environment, in Q3, these renewals discussions played out somewhat better than expected, which did help our results. In reviewing the metrics that will impact the remainder of the year, our current RPO is $230.8 million, consistent with last year, and our total RPO grew 4% to $367.2 million as of October thirty-first. in reviewing the metrics that will impact the remainder of the year our current rpo is $230.8 million consistent with last year and our total rpo grew 4% to $367.2 million as of october thirty-first On a dollar weighted measure, we continue to have approximately two-thirds of our customers under multi-year contracts. on a dollar weighted measure we continue to have approximately two-thirds of our customers under multi-year contracts Our gross retention was above 85%, net retention was about 95%. our gross retention was above 85% net retention was about 95% Last quarter, we identified potential renewal challenges with several large customers, and while we and some of our customers continue to face challenging IT spending environment, in Q3, these renewals discussions played out somewhat better than expected, which did help our results. last quarter we identified potential renewal challenges with several large customers and while we and some of our customers continue to face challenging it spending environment in q3 these renewals discussions played out somewhat better than expected which did help our results In regards to the large renewal risks that we had identified last quarter, we have saved a few of them and have not identified any beyond those that we had identified in last quarter for the fourth quarter. Moving on to margins and profitability. Our subscription gross margin was 84.8%, up 0.2 percentage points from Q3 of last year. The non-GAAP operating margin was a record high 6.3%, up 5.4 percentage points from a year ago. Our net loss was very close to breakeven at $24,000, which is our best result to date, and a big improvement from a net loss of $4.4 million a year ago. In regards to the large renewal risks that we had identified last quarter, we have saved a few of them and have not identified any beyond those that we had identified in last quarter for the fourth quarter. in regards to the large renewal risks that we had identified last quarter we have saved a few of them and have not identified any beyond those that we had identified in last quarter for the fourth quarter Moving on to margins and profitability. moving on to margins and profitability Our subscription gross margin was 84.8%, up 0.2 percentage points from Q3 of last year. our subscription gross margin was 84.8% up 0.2 percentage points from q3 of last year The non-GAAP operating margin was a record high 6.3%, up 5.4 percentage points from a year ago. the non-gaap operating margin was a record high 6.3% up 5.4 percentage points from a year ago Our net loss was very close to break even at $24,000, which is our best result to date, and a big improvement from a net loss of $4.4 million a year ago. our net loss was very close to break even at $24,000 which is our best result to date and a big improvement from a net loss of $4.4 million a year ago ...Net loss per share was zero, based on 36.3 million weighted average shares outstanding, basic and diluted. In Q3, cash used in operations was approximately $4.3 million. We capitalized approximately $2 million in software costs, resulting in a decline of our cash balance of $6.5 million from last quarter to $57.4 million. Cash flow from operations in Q3 was negatively impacted by the timing of collections on some receivables. However, we're still on track to generate positive operating cash flow for FY 2024, and therefore expect our Q4 cash flow from operations to be in the range of $3 million-$4 million. Looking forward to next year, we're committed to not only being operating cash flow positive, but we are targeting free cash flow positive for FY 2025. ...Net loss per share was zero, based on 36.3 million weighted average shares outstanding, basic and diluted. ...net loss per share was zero based on 36.3 million weighted average shares outstanding basic and diluted In Q3, cash used in operations was approximately $4.3 million. in q3 cash used in operations was approximately $4.3 million We capitalized approximately $2 million in software costs, resulting in a decline of our cash balance of $6.5 million from last quarter to $57.4 million. we capitalized approximately $2 million in software costs resulting in a decline of our cash balance of $6.5 million from last quarter to $57.4 million Cash flow from operations in Q3 was negatively impacted by the timing of collections on some receivables. cash flow from operations in q3 was negatively impacted by the timing of collections on some receivables However, we're still on track to generate positive operating cash flow for FY 2024, and therefore expect our Q4 cash flow from operations to be in the range of $3 million-$4 million. however we're still on track to generate positive operating cash flow for fy 2024 and therefore expect our q4 cash flow from operations to be in the range of $3 million-$4 million Looking forward to next year, we're committed to not only being operating cash flow positive, but we are targeting free cash flow positive for FY 2025. looking forward to next year we're committed to not only being operating cash flow positive but we are targeting free cash flow positive for fy 2025 In order to bring our cost structure in alignment with this target, we recently reduced our headcount-related expense by approximately 7% and also optimized a handful of other costs. For Q4 top-line metrics, we are guiding to a billing range of $102 million-$103 million, and expect GAAP revenue to be in the range of $79 million-$80 million. For the full year of fiscal 2024, we expect billings to be in the range of $317.7 million-$318.7 million, and we expect GAAP revenue to be in the range of $317.8 million-$318.8 million, representing year-over-year growth of approximately 3%. We expect non-GAAP net loss per share, basic and diluted, of $0.05-$0.09 for Q4. In order to bring our cost structure in alignment with this target, we recently reduced our headcount-related expense by approximately 7% and also optimized a handful of other costs. in order to bring our cost structure in alignment with this target we recently reduced our headcount-related expense by approximately 7% and also optimized a handful of other costs For Q4 top-line metrics, we are guiding to a billing range of $102 million-$103 million, and expect GAAP revenue to be in the range of $79 million-$80 million. for q4 top-line metrics we are guiding to a billing range of $102 million-$103 million and expect gaap revenue to be in the range of $79 million-$80 million For the full year of fiscal 2024, we expect billings to be in the range of $317.7 million-$318.7 million, and we expect GAAP revenue to be in the range of $317.8 million-$318.8 million, representing year-over-year growth of approximately 3%. for the full year of fiscal 2024 we expect billings to be in the range of $317.7 million-$318.7 million and we expect gaap revenue to be in the range of $317.8 million-$318.8 million representing year-over-year growth of approximately 3% We expect non-GAAP net loss per share, basic and diluted, of $0.05-$0.09 for Q4. we expect non-gaap net loss per share basic and diluted of $0.05-$0.09 for q4 This assumes a 36.8 million weighted average shares outstanding, basic and diluted. For the full year, we expect non-GAAP net loss per share, basic and diluted, of $0.24-$0.28. This assumes 36.1 million weighted average shares outstanding, basic and diluted. Additionally of note, is the fact that we've engaged an investment bank to assist us with refinancing and extending the maturity of our outstanding debt, and at this point in the process, we have a significant level of interest from potential lenders. In conclusion, we posted better-than-expected top-line results with record profitability and believe we're making the right moves to drive long-term profitable growth. With that, we'll open the call for questions. Operator? This assumes a 36.8 million weighted average shares outstanding, basic and diluted. this assumes a 36.8 million weighted average shares outstanding basic and diluted For the full year, we expect non-GAAP net loss per share, basic and diluted, of $0.24-$0.28. for the full year we expect non-gaap net loss per share basic and diluted of $0.24-$0.28 This assumes 36.1 million weighted average shares outstanding, basic and diluted. this assumes 36.1 million weighted average shares outstanding basic and diluted Additionally of note, is the fact that we've engaged an investment bank to assist us with refinancing and extending the maturity of our outstanding debt, and at this point in the process, we have a significant level of interest from potential lenders. additionally of note is the fact that we've engaged an investment bank to assist us with refinancing and extending the maturity of our outstanding debt and at this point in the process we have a significant level of interest from potential lenders In conclusion, we posted better-than-expected top-line results with record profitability and believe we're making the right moves to drive long-term profitable growth. in conclusion we posted better-than-expected top-line results with record profitability and believe we're making the right moves to drive long-term profitable growth With that, we'll open the call for questions. with that we'll open the call for questions Operator? operator
Speaker 5: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question on the phone lines today, please press star one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to remove yourself from the queue, that is star one again. We'll pause for a moment to allow everyone a chance to signal. We'll take our first question from Eric Martinuzzi with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Thank you. thank you If you would like to ask a question on the phone lines today, please press star one on your telephone keypad. if you would like to ask a question on the phone lines today please press star one on your telephone keypad If you would like to remove yourself from the queue, that is star one again. if you would like to remove yourself from the queue that is star one again We'll pause for a moment to allow everyone a chance to signal. we'll pause for a moment to allow everyone a chance to signal We'll take our first question from Eric Martinuzzi with Lake Street Capital Markets. we'll take our first question from eric martinuzzi with lake street capital markets Please go ahead. please go ahead
Speaker 3: Yeah, congrats on the good numbers for the quarter, and I appreciate the examples regarding the capacity-based pricing impacts. Wanted to understand a little bit more on the risk of non-renewals. I think last quarter, you talked about four or five enterprise accounts that were in danger, and that was part of the reset to the outlook for FY 2024. Could you give us a little better color? Have we reached resolution on those four or five at-risk enterprise accounts? Yeah, congrats on the good numbers for the quarter, and I appreciate the examples regarding the capacity-based pricing impacts. yeah congrats on the good numbers for the quarter and i appreciate the examples regarding the capacity-based pricing impacts Wanted to understand a little bit more on the risk of non-renewals. wanted to understand a little bit more on the risk of non-renewals I think last quarter, you talked about four or five enterprise accounts that were in danger, and that was part of the reset to the outlook for FY 2024. i think last quarter you talked about four or five enterprise accounts that were in danger and that was part of the reset to the outlook for fy 2024 Could you give us a little better color? could you give us a little better color Have we reached resolution on those four or five at-risk enterprise accounts? have we reached resolution on those four or five at-risk enterprise accounts
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've reached resolution. You know, good news, we were actually able to keep a couple of them just with downsells, but we still kept them as customers. So, that was, you know, that was a little bit of a bright spot, you know, when it came to the bad news. And, you know, this quarter, we've... You know, given the guidance, we're obviously not- we're not on a torrid pace here, but we, at the same time, feel pretty good about looking out over the next three, four quarters, in terms of the pacing of, you know, where customers are that are at risk. It feels like, you know, we hit the bottom of that, and we're recovering from that. Yeah, we've reached resolution. yeah we've reached resolution You know, good news, we were actually able to keep a couple of them just with downsells, but we still kept them as customers. you know good news we were actually able to keep a couple of them just with downsells but we still kept them as customers So, that was, you know, that was a little bit of a bright spot, you know, when it came to the bad news. so that was you know that was a little bit of a bright spot you know when it came to the bad news And, you know, this quarter, we've... and you know this quarter we've You know, given the guidance, we're obviously not- we're not on a torrid pace here, but we, at the same time, feel pretty good about looking out over the next three, four quarters, in terms of the pacing of, you know, where customers are that are at risk. you know given the guidance we're obviously not- we're not on a torrid pace here but we at the same time feel pretty good about looking out over the next three four quarters in terms of the pacing of you know where customers are that are at risk It feels like, you know, we hit the bottom of that, and we're recovering from that. it feels like you know we hit the bottom of that and we're recovering from that And like we mentioned, many of the examples with the consumption pricing, we actually end up on the consolidation, being the consolidator, side of the equation, versus having, you know, just being impacted by, by others. So the move to, to consumption definitely changed the relationship with a lot of our customers, and has helped us save a bunch of accounts. And, we think, especially as that plays out over the future, you know, like we talked about, there's so many upsells that we're getting from these accounts. If you look at the cohort of customers that have been through renewal, we haven't lost any customers that have signed up, to consumption. And, you know, it's a smaller sample size, you know, 30-40, but, you know, as that number gets bigger, we'll keep watching that. And like we mentioned, many of the examples with the consumption pricing, we actually end up on the consolidation, being the consolidator, side of the equation, versus having, you know, just being impacted by, by others. and like we mentioned many of the examples with the consumption pricing we actually end up on the consolidation being the consolidator side of the equation versus having you know just being impacted by by others So the move to, to consumption definitely changed the relationship with a lot of our customers, and has helped us save a bunch of accounts. so the move to to consumption definitely changed the relationship with a lot of our customers and has helped us save a bunch of accounts And, we think, especially as that plays out over the future, you know, like we talked about, there's so many upsells that we're getting from these accounts. and we think especially as that plays out over the future you know like we talked about there's so many upsells that we're getting from these accounts If you look at the cohort of customers that have been through renewal, we haven't lost any customers that have signed up, to consumption. if you look at the cohort of customers that have been through renewal we haven't lost any customers that have signed up to consumption And, you know, it's a smaller sample size, you know, 30-40, but, you know, as that number gets bigger, we'll keep watching that. and you know it's a smaller sample size you know 30-40 but you know as that number gets bigger we'll keep watching that But it certainly is extremely encouraging, looking at the 20% of our business that's purely consumption, and knowing that we can get that number to, you know, a vast majority, just over the next 12 months. But it certainly is extremely encouraging, looking at the 20% of our business that's purely consumption, and knowing that we can get that number to, you know, a vast majority, just over the next 12 months. but it certainly is extremely encouraging looking at the 20% of our business that's purely consumption and knowing that we can get that number to you know a vast majority just over the next 12 months
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Okay. The other comment that you made last quarter was regarding the pipeline, and you characterized the pipeline back then as soft in all stages. I'm wondering if you could update that view on the pipeline. Mm-hmm. mm-hmm Okay. okay The other comment that you made last quarter was regarding the pipeline, and you characterized the pipeline back then as soft in all stages. the other comment that you made last quarter was regarding the pipeline and you characterized the pipeline back then as soft in all stages I'm wondering if you could update that view on the pipeline. i'm wondering if you could update that view on the pipeline
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels... You know, as we look at the numbers, it seems like we've started to turn. You know, there's seven, eight, nine numbers that all feel like they've barely started to turn, but it's barely. But, you know, all of our checks, it looks like things are hit the bottom last quarter and just are starting to slightly improve. So hopefully, that's how things play out. Yeah, it feels... yeah it feels You know, as we look at the numbers, it seems like we've started to turn. you know as we look at the numbers it seems like we've started to turn You know, there's seven, eight, nine numbers that all feel like they've barely started to turn, but it's barely. you know there's seven eight nine numbers that all feel like they've barely started to turn but it's barely But, you know, all of our checks, it looks like things are hit the bottom last quarter and just are starting to slightly improve. but you know all of our checks it looks like things are hit the bottom last quarter and just are starting to slightly improve So hopefully, that's how things play out. so hopefully that's how things play out But, we've- we're feeling like we have our arms wrapped around the situation much better, and we feel like we're in a much better position, in terms of the relationship that we have with our customers and our ability to sell consumption and our ability to get our customers over to consumption, training up the reps, training up the client services folks, you know, focusing on adoption and helping people find these additional use cases. So we feel like we're much better positioned, and feel like we've got much better visibility into the customers and the contracts at this stage. But, we've- we're feeling like we have our arms wrapped around the situation much better, and we feel like we're in a much better position, in terms of the relationship that we have with our customers and our ability to sell consumption and our ability to get our customers over to consumption, training up the reps, training up the client services folks, you know, focusing on adoption and helping people find these additional use cases. but we've- we're feeling like we have our arms wrapped around the situation much better and we feel like we're in a much better position in terms of the relationship that we have with our customers and our ability to sell consumption and our ability to get our customers over to consumption training up the reps training up the client services folks you know focusing on adoption and helping people find these additional use cases So we feel like we're much better positioned, and feel like we've got much better visibility into the customers and the contracts at this stage. so we feel like we're much better positioned and feel like we've got much better visibility into the customers and the contracts at this stage
Speaker 3: Understand. Good luck in Q4. Understand. understand Good luck in Q4. good luck in q4
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Thank you very much. thank you very much
Speaker 2: ... Once again, that is star one to ask a question. We'll take our next question from Oliver Crookenden with JMP Securities. ... Once again, that is star one to ask a question. once again that is star one to ask a question We'll take our next question from Oliver Crookenden with JMP Securities. we'll take our next question from oliver crookenden with jmp securities
Speaker 6: Actually, it's Pat, but Pat Walravens with JMP Securities. Thank you. So, Josh, I do love this shift to consumption. And we've seen a lot of other people do it, but I was wondering if you could balance it out a little bit. I mean, there are some negatives to the consumption model, too, right? So what do you give up when you make this shift? Actually, it's Pat, but Pat Walravens with JMP Securities. actually it's pat but pat walravens with jmp securities Thank you. thank you So, Josh, I do love this shift to consumption. so josh i do love this shift to consumption And we've seen a lot of other people do it, but I was wondering if you could balance it out a little bit. and we've seen a lot of other people do it but i was wondering if you could balance it out a little bit I mean, there are some negatives to the consumption model, too, right? i mean there are some negatives to the consumption model too right So what do you give up when you make this shift? so what do you give up when you make this shift
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if you went around the room in e-staff and, you know, tried to figure out what the negatives are, we're not seeing any negatives. You know, the one difference in the model is you're not gonna sign up any seven-figure new logo deals, right? When you go start to use- Yeah, I think if you went around the room in e-s taff and, you know, tried to figure out what the negatives are, we're not seeing any negatives. yeah i think if you went around the room in e-s taff and you know tried to figure out what the negatives are we're not seeing any negatives You know, the one difference in the model is you're not gonna sign up any seven-figure new logo deals, right? you know the one difference in the model is you're not gonna sign up any seven-figure new logo deals right When you go start to use- when you go start to use-
Speaker 6: Yeah Yeah yeah
Speaker 4: ... AWS, you don't, you don't walk in and be like, "Hey, give me a couple million bucks worth." You try it out, and you start spending, and if you like it, you know, you decide that you wanna commit to get lower rates, and we're seeing that same thing. So, you know, brand-new, seven-figure billings walking in the door, we're not gonna have as many of those. They'll, they'll happen, but they'll happen as those customers grow. So, you know, we're seeing those relationships. We have some, we have some really big customers that are signing up right now that on the old seat model, we'd be signing up for $3 million-$4 million, but, you know, annually. ... AWS, you don't, you don't walk in and be like, "Hey, give me a couple million bucks worth." You try it out, and you start spending, and if you like it, you know, you decide that you wanna commit to get lower rates, and we're seeing that same thing. aws you don't you don't walk in and be like "hey give me a couple million bucks worth." you try it out and you start spending and if you like it you know you decide that you wanna commit to get lower rates and we're seeing that same thing So, you know, brand-new, seven-figure billings walking in the door, we're not gonna have as many of those. so you know brand-new seven-figure billings walking in the door we're not gonna have as many of those They'll, they'll happen, but they'll happen as those customers grow. they'll they'll happen but they'll happen as those customers grow So, you know, we're seeing those relationships. so you know we're seeing those relationships We have some, we have some really big customers that are signing up right now that on the old seat model, we'd be signing up for $3 million-$4 million, but, you know, annually. we have some we have some really big customers that are signing up right now that on the old seat model we'd be signing up for $3 million-$4 million but you know annually But in the consumption model, you sign them up for $400,000, and then another $500,000, and then you get to $2 million, and you still get to the same spot. You get there more efficiently, more effectively. You know, there's not as much hemming and hawing. You're not going through as many use cases and approvals internally. But at the same time, you're also gonna have the big billings hits, until they've had time to bake. So we'll have to wait for some of those things to bake a little bit. But in the consumption model, you sign them up for $400,000, and then another $500,000, and then you get to $2 million, and you still get to the same spot. but in the consumption model you sign them up for $400,000 and then another $500,000 and then you get to $2 million and you still get to the same spot You get there more efficiently, more effectively. you get there more efficiently more effectively You know, there's not as much hemming and hawing. you know there's not as much hemming and hawing You're not going through as many use cases and approvals internally. you're not going through as many use cases and approvals internally But at the same time, you're also gonna have the big billings hits, until they've had time to bake. but at the same time you're also gonna have the big billings hits until they've had time to bake So we'll have to wait for some of those things to bake a little bit. so we'll have to wait for some of those things to bake a little bit
Speaker 6: Okay, great. Okay, great. okay great
Speaker 2: I think, Pat, you know, another... just another comment was that, I think early on, there was a concern, "Well, geez, you know, if we give them the whole platform, is there gonna be anything to sell them later on?" And there was some concern about that. But the way that's working is when we provide the whole platform and open up all the seats, it's then just about helping the customer identify how to solve more of their data issues and more use cases. And as they do that, that's the upsell. It happens very naturally. I think, Pat, you know, another... just another comment was that, I think early on, there was a concern, "Well, geez, you know, if we give them the whole platform, is there gonna be anything to sell them later on?" And there was some concern about that. i think pat you know another just another comment was that i think early on there was a concern "well geez you know if we give them the whole platform is there gonna be anything to sell them later on?" and there was some concern about that But the way that's working is when we provide the whole platform and open up all the seats, it's then just about helping the customer identify how to solve more of their data issues and more use cases. but the way that's working is when we provide the whole platform and open up all the seats it's then just about helping the customer identify how to solve more of their data issues and more use cases And as they do that, that's the upsell. and as they do that that's the upsell It happens very naturally. it happens very naturally
Speaker 6: Okay, so there's not a near-term hit on cash flow? Like, you don't get less cash up front when you go to a consumption model. I mean, maybe not. Okay, so there's not a near-term hit on cash flow? okay so there's not a near-term hit on cash flow Like, you don't get less cash up front when you go to a consumption model. like you don't get less cash up front when you go to a consumption model I mean, maybe not. i mean maybe not
Speaker 2: Nope. No. Nope. nope No. no
Speaker 6: Okay, great. Okay, great. okay great
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Speaker 6: Okay, perfect. And then my second question is, Josh, if you could go a little deeper... Actually, maybe I'll just tell you my other question. I'll put them both out front. So for Josh, if you could go a little deeper on the architectural change and help us understand the history of that. What was it before, and what is it now, and how does it work? And then maybe if you guys could address the debt in a little more detail, just sort of what's the current rate, when's the maturity, and what's your options look like? Both of those things would be really helpful. Thank you. Okay, perfect. okay perfect And then my second question is, Josh, if you could go a little deeper... and then my second question is josh if you could go a little deeper Actually, maybe I'll just tell you my other question. actually maybe i'll just tell you my other question I'll put them both out front. i'll put them both out front So for Josh, if you could go a little deeper on the architectural change and help us understand the history of that. so for josh if you could go a little deeper on the architectural change and help us understand the history of that What was it before, and what is it now, and how does it work? what was it before and what is it now and how does it work And then maybe if you guys could address the debt in a little more detail, just sort of what's the current rate, when's the maturity, and what's your options look like? and then maybe if you guys could address the debt in a little more detail just sort of what's the current rate when's the maturity and what's your options look like Both of those things would be really helpful. both of those things would be really helpful Thank you. thank you
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the problem before, you know, when we were starting to get excited about the ecosystem, and we were building relationships with some folks, especially the big data providers, you know, we walk into accounts with reps, and then their customer that they introduced us to might start pulling some compute out of our partner and putting it into Domo. And, you know, of course, that's the end of those relationships, right? You're taking dollars out of the pockets of the reps, of the partners, and so, you know, that was DOA as soon as that started. I... Yeah, so the problem before, you know, when we were starting to get excited about the ecosystem, and we were building relationships with some folks, especially the big data providers, you know, we walk into accounts with reps, and then their customer that they introduced us to might start pulling some compute out of our partner and putting it into Domo. yeah so the problem before you know when we were starting to get excited about the ecosystem and we were building relationships with some folks especially the big data providers you know we walk into accounts with reps and then their customer that they introduced us to might start pulling some compute out of our partner and putting it into domo And, you know, of course, that's the end of those relationships, right? and you know of course that's the end of those relationships right You're taking dollars out of the pockets of the reps, of the partners, and so, you know, that was DOA as soon as that started. you're taking dollars out of the pockets of the reps of the partners and so you know that was doa as soon as that started I... i And so what we've done now is we said, "Okay, we can take that compute component, where the data lives and how it gets queried and processed, and we can run that inside Snowflake or inside AWS or inside Microsoft." So any partner that brings us in, we can keep all the computing, the computing charges and credits that are being used up actually with the partner. And so that changes the dynamic pretty meaningfully because, you know, now we have complete alignment, except for instead of, you know, 40 users that you may have at, you know, even a big Fortune 500 company, you go from 40 users or 100 users to 5,000, 10,000 when you add the Domo front end on top of that. And so what we've done now is we said, "Okay, we can take that compute component, where the data lives and how it gets queried and processed, and we can run that inside Snowflake or inside AWS or inside Microsoft." So any partner that brings us in, we can keep all the computing, the computing charges and credits that are being used up actually with the partner. and so what we've done now is we said "okay we can take that compute component where the data lives and how it gets queried and processed and we can run that inside snowflake or inside aws or inside microsoft." so any partner that brings us in we can keep all the computing the computing charges and credits that are being used up actually with the partner And so that changes the dynamic pretty meaningfully because, you know, now we have complete alignment, except for instead of, you know, 40 users that you may have at, you know, even a big Fortune 500 company, you go from 40 users or 100 users to 5,000, 10,000 when you add the Domo front end on top of that. and so that changes the dynamic pretty meaningfully because you know now we have complete alignment except for instead of you know 40 users that you may have at you know even a big fortune 500 company you go from 40 users or 100 users to 5,000 10,000 when you add the domo front end on top of that That's 5,000-10,000 people that are now querying and running reports that are all driving compute on the back end of a Snowflake or a Databricks or a Microsoft or an AWS or a Google. So we feel like we're in a much, much better position, and that coupled with freemium, there's been plenty of conversations where we're talking to a partner and someone that maybe we have, you know, 300 customers that have connected to their data. So we know it's popular inside our network, and we know that we provide a lot of visibility into the data that's inside that partner's analytics. That's 5,000-10,000 people that are now querying and running reports that are all driving compute on the back end of a Snowflake or a Databricks or a Microsoft or an AWS or a Google. that's 5,000-10,000 people that are now querying and running reports that are all driving compute on the back end of a snowflake or a databricks or a microsoft or an aws or a google So we feel like we're in a much, much better position, and that coupled with freemium, there's been plenty of conversations where we're talking to a partner and someone that maybe we have, you know, 300 customers that have connected to their data. so we feel like we're in a much much better position and that coupled with freemium there's been plenty of conversations where we're talking to a partner and someone that maybe we have you know 300 customers that have connected to their data So we know it's popular inside our network, and we know that we provide a lot of visibility into the data that's inside that partner's analytics. so we know it's popular inside our network and we know that we provide a lot of visibility into the data that's inside that partner's analytics The partner will come to us and say, "Gosh, it'd be great if we could give this to the other 10,000 customers that we have." And then we say, "Yeah, great, you should do that. It's, let's see, $840,000." And the partner's like, "What? Well, we don't know what the value is yet." We're like, "Yeah, but we'll give you upside if they converted to Domo customers." They're like, "Yeah, that seems like a good idea on paper, but I don't know if we can lean in and make the commitment, make the investment without seeing a return, so maybe we should just try it out with a couple of customers." And by then, you've lost momentum. Whereas now we can go in, that same customer, that same conversation, we say, "Yes, we can get it to all 10,000. The partner will come to us and say, "Gosh, it'd be great if we could give this to the other 10,000 customers that we have." And then we say, "Yeah, great, you should do that. the partner will come to us and say "gosh it'd be great if we could give this to the other 10,000 customers that we have." and then we say "yeah great you should do that It's, let's see, $840,000." And the partner's like, "What? it's let's see $840,000." and the partner's like "what Well, we don't know what the value is yet." We're like, "Yeah, but we'll give you upside if they converted to Domo customers." They're like, "Yeah, that seems like a good idea on paper, but I don't know if we can lean in and make the commitment, make the investment without seeing a return, so maybe we should just try it out with a couple of customers." And by then, you've lost momentum. well we don't know what the value is yet." we're like "yeah but we'll give you upside if they converted to domo customers." they're like "yeah that seems like a good idea on paper but i don't know if we can lean in and make the commitment make the investment without seeing a return so maybe we should just try it out with a couple of customers." and by then you've lost momentum Whereas now we can go in, that same customer, that same conversation, we say, "Yes, we can get it to all 10,000. whereas now we can go in that same customer that same conversation we say "yes we can get it to all 10,000 Let's do it on freemium. Let's build some quick start guides so that the second you roll this out, the customer is able to log into Domo, see all of the data from you as a partner. We'll build out the dashboards. We'll build out the alerts. They're gonna get this great white glove, perfect experience replicated 10,000x automatically. And in there, they can see, "Hey, this is your Domo experience for this data from your partner. If you want it for everything else, here's your freemium account, just keep going. And then we tell the partner, 'Any upside, we're gonna give you guys a piece of it.' So all of a sudden, providing data to their customers becomes not a cost center, it becomes a profit center. And we've seen a bunch of traction in just even the last month for that. Let's do it on freemium. let's do it on freemium Let's build some quick start guides so that the second you roll this out, the customer is able to log into Domo, see all of the data from you as a partner. let's build some quick start guides so that the second you roll this out the customer is able to log into domo see all of the data from you as a partner We'll build out the dashboards. we'll build out the dashboards We'll build out the alerts. we'll build out the alerts They're gonna get this great white glove, perfect experience replicated 10,000x automatically. they're gonna get this great white glove perfect experience replicated 10,000x automatically And in there, they can see, "Hey, this is your Domo experience for this data from your partner. and in there they can see "hey this is your domo experience for this data from your partner If you want it for everything else, here's your freemium account, just keep going. if you want it for everything else here's your freemium account just keep going And then we tell the partner, 'Any upside, we're gonna give you guys a piece of it.' So all of a sudden, providing data to their customers becomes not a cost center, it becomes a profit center. and then we tell the partner 'any upside we're gonna give you guys a piece of it.' so all of a sudden providing data to their customers becomes not a cost center it becomes a profit center And we've seen a bunch of traction in just even the last month for that. and we've seen a bunch of traction in just even the last month for that So we're really excited about our ability to provide Domo Everywhere through our Freemium offering. So we're really excited about our ability to provide Domo Everywhere through our Freemium offering. so we're really excited about our ability to provide domo everywhere through our freemium offering
Speaker 6: Great. And then, Dave, on the debt. Great. great And then, Dave, on the debt. and then dave on the debt
Speaker 2: Yeah. So our current debt, as you might recall, we raised that debt, even prior to our IPO, when we were still consuming a lot of cash. And so, it's very expensive debt. It carries a cash interest component and a PIK interest component, some other payments that push the effective interest rate, you know, north of 14%, is where we're at today. And, and it's got a maturity of April 25. And so we've gone out with a refinancing and, got a bank helping us, and, we're looking at a cash interest component of, you know, a little over 11% right now based on where SOFR is at. Yeah. yeah So our current debt, as you might recall, we raised that debt, even prior to our IPO, when we were still consuming a lot of cash. so our current debt as you might recall we raised that debt even prior to our ipo when we were still consuming a lot of cash And so, it's very expensive debt. and so it's very expensive debt It carries a cash interest component and a PIK interest component, some other payments that push the effective interest rate, you know, north of 14%, is where we're at today. it carries a cash interest component and a pik interest component some other payments that push the effective interest rate you know north of 14% is where we're at today And, and it's got a maturity of April 25. and and it's got a maturity of april 25 And so we've gone out with a refinancing and, got a bank helping us, and, we're looking at a cash interest component of, you know, a little over 11% right now based on where SOFR is at. and so we've gone out with a refinancing and got a bank helping us and we're looking at a cash interest component of you know a little over 11% right now based on where sofr is at You know, we're hearing some good things about where rates might go next year, but but it'll bring our rate down substantially and push our maturity date, you know, out to, you know, 2029 or 2030. So it sort of puts it out, well out into the future, and it eliminates some of the other, you know, PIK interest and some of the other elements. You know, we're hearing some good things about where rates might go next year, but but it'll bring our rate down substantially and push our maturity date, you know, out to, you know, 2029 or 2030. you know we're hearing some good things about where rates might go next year but but it'll bring our rate down substantially and push our maturity date you know out to you know 2029 or 2030 So it sort of puts it out, well out into the future, and it eliminates some of the other, you know, PIK interest and some of the other elements. so it sort of puts it out well out into the future and it eliminates some of the other you know pik interest and some of the other elements
Speaker 6: All right. Terrific. Thanks to you, thanks to both of you. All right. all right Terrific. terrific Thanks to you, thanks to both of you. thanks to you thanks to both of you
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Speaker 2: All right. Sounds like, Pat said thanks, we heard, there was another question. Is the question still on? All right. all right Sounds like, Pat said thanks, we heard, there was another question. sounds like pat said thanks we heard there was another question Is the question still on? is the question still on
Speaker 5: Yes, one moment. We'll take our next question from Derek Wood with TD Cowen. Yes, one moment. yes one moment We'll take our next question from Derek Wood with TD Cowen. we'll take our next question from derek wood with td cowen
Speaker 1: Hey, guys. Thanks. This is Cole on for Derek. On the risk that you talked about, we'd just like to get a little bit more color. Is that across sales, G&A? If you can just unpack that a bit, that'd be helpful. Hey, guys. hey guys Thanks. thanks This is Cole on for Derek. this is cole on for derek On the risk that you talked about, we'd just like to get a little bit more color. on the risk that you talked about we'd just like to get a little bit more color Is that across sales, G&A? is that across sales g&a If you can just unpack that a bit, that'd be helpful. if you can just unpack that a bit that'd be helpful
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were-- we, it was across every department. There was... The majority of it was in sales. You know, we're, we're, in terms of growth, not where we want to be, and so for the most part, it was based on performance. Some of it was just positions that were eliminated as we found, more optimized way of accomplishing certain things. It wasn't a huge number, but, you know, it was still, still, a, a, you know, several dozen, humans that were affected. So, you know, a little bit of a rough day here at the office, but, at the same time, feel like the company's in a better position, and it, it, it's not a dramatic effect on our ability to produce. Yeah, we were-- we, it was across every department. yeah we were-- we it was across every department There was... there was The majority of it was in sales. the majority of it was in sales You know, we're, we're, in terms of growth, not where we want to be, and so for the most part, it was based on performance. you know we're we're in terms of growth not where we want to be and so for the most part it was based on performance Some of it was just positions that were eliminated as we found, more optimized way of accomplishing certain things. some of it was just positions that were eliminated as we found more optimized way of accomplishing certain things It wasn't a huge number, but, you know, it was still, still, a, a, you know, several dozen, humans that were affected. it wasn't a huge number but you know it was still still a a you know several dozen humans that were affected So, you know, a little bit of a rough day here at the office, but, at the same time, feel like the company's in a better position, and it, it, it's not a dramatic effect on our ability to produce. so you know a little bit of a rough day here at the office but at the same time feel like the company's in a better position and it it it's not a dramatic effect on our ability to produce We think in many cases, actually, taking a smaller number of leads distributed, I mean, taking the same number of leads distributed to a smaller number of reps will actually be an improvement for the reps that are here to make sure that they're being fed. So, overall, I don't think it's gonna be too impactful to our company. It just, you know, obviously impacts the folks that were affected by it. We think in many cases, actually, taking a smaller number of leads distributed, I mean, taking the same number of leads distributed to a smaller number of reps will actually be an improvement for the reps that are here to make sure that they're being fed. we think in many cases actually taking a smaller number of leads distributed i mean taking the same number of leads distributed to a smaller number of reps will actually be an improvement for the reps that are here to make sure that they're being fed So, overall, I don't think it's gonna be too impactful to our company. so overall i don't think it's gonna be too impactful to our company It just, you know, obviously impacts the folks that were affected by it. it just you know obviously impacts the folks that were affected by it
Speaker 1: Sounds good and helpful. Just building on that too, for the reps that you still have at Domo, you know, how is productivity trending? Any new initiatives around helping them sell consumption better would be helpful to hear about. Thanks. Sounds good and helpful. sounds good and helpful Just building on that too, for the reps that you still have at Domo, you know, how is productivity trending? just building on that too for the reps that you still have at domo you know how is productivity trending Any new initiatives around helping them sell consumption better would be helpful to hear about. any new initiatives around helping them sell consumption better would be helpful to hear about Thanks. thanks
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have all kinds of initiatives around helping them to consumption. You know, we had a board meeting just recently and walked through our consumption deck and showed the board members, you know, all the positive things that are happening and, you know, all the negative things that we might be able to find, as well. You know, the resounding answer was from the board was, "Move as fast as you possibly can. We don't see anything that would cause us concern about you moving as fast as you possibly can." So to that end, you know, doing as many things as we can to drive the transition to consumption, things like we've built out a brand new adoption group that's focused on, you know, going into our, especially our bigger customers and helping them. Yeah, we have all kinds of initiatives around helping them to consumption. yeah we have all kinds of initiatives around helping them to consumption You know, we had a board meeting just recently and walked through our consumption deck and showed the board members, you know, all the positive things that are happening and, you know, all the negative things that we might be able to find, as well. you know we had a board meeting just recently and walked through our consumption deck and showed the board members you know all the positive things that are happening and you know all the negative things that we might be able to find as well You know, the resounding answer was from the board was, "Move as fast as you possibly can. you know the resounding answer was from the board was "move as fast as you possibly can We don't see anything that would cause us concern about you moving as fast as you possibly can." So to that end, you know, doing as many things as we can to drive the transition to consumption, things like we've built out a brand new adoption group that's focused on, you know, going into our, especially our bigger customers and helping them. we don't see anything that would cause us concern about you moving as fast as you possibly can." so to that end you know doing as many things as we can to drive the transition to consumption things like we've built out a brand new adoption group that's focused on you know going into our especially our bigger customers and helping them It's a great phone call. You know, we call a customer, and we're not asking for, we're not asking for a new contract. We're not asking to go get approval from procurement. We're just walking in and saying, "Hey, you know, we'd love to come in and show you best uses for data science," or, "We'd love to come in and talk to you about identifying, you know, opportunities inside your marketing spend." And, you know, they love those conversations. All we're doing is walking in and helping them, but we're helping them identify additional use cases, which, of course, ends up driving consumption. So those are the types of things that we're doing with the customer, and then we're reevaluating the different departments that we have and, you know, what each group does. It's a great phone call. it's a great phone call You know, we call a customer, and we're not asking for, we're not asking for a new contract. you know we call a customer and we're not asking for we're not asking for a new contract We're not asking to go get approval from procurement. we're not asking to go get approval from procurement We're just walking in and saying, "Hey, you know, we'd love to come in and show you best uses for data science," or, "We'd love to come in and talk to you about identifying, you know, opportunities inside your marketing spend." And, you know, they love those conversations. we're just walking in and saying "hey you know we'd love to come in and show you best uses for data science," or "we'd love to come in and talk to you about identifying you know opportunities inside your marketing spend." and you know they love those conversations All we're doing is walking in and helping them, but we're helping them identify additional use cases, which, of course, ends up driving consumption. all we're doing is walking in and helping them but we're helping them identify additional use cases which of course ends up driving consumption So those are the types of things that we're doing with the customer, and then we're reevaluating the different departments that we have and, you know, what each group does. so those are the types of things that we're doing with the customer and then we're reevaluating the different departments that we have and you know what each group does So, you know, reps, you know, their job, on renewal, what is the job on renewal? Is the job to go and procure another contract, or is the job to help identify some more use cases? And so just identifying those different ways that we can interact with our customers to help get them excited about adding additional users and adding additional use cases, it's really fun for the customer, and it's really fun for us. They end up happier. They end up spending more, and those are the types of things that we can really do to address transitions to consumption. There's some customers that are on seat-based licenses with us, and they don't have access to all the features. So, you know, reps, you know, their job, on renewal, what is the job on renewal? so you know reps you know their job on renewal what is the job on renewal Is the job to go and procure another contract, or is the job to help identify some more use cases? is the job to go and procure another contract or is the job to help identify some more use cases And so just identifying those different ways that we can interact with our customers to help get them excited about adding additional users and adding additional use cases, it's really fun for the customer, and it's really fun for us. and so just identifying those different ways that we can interact with our customers to help get them excited about adding additional users and adding additional use cases it's really fun for the customer and it's really fun for us They end up happier. they end up happier They end up spending more, and those are the types of things that we can really do to address transitions to consumption. they end up spending more and those are the types of things that we can really do to address transitions to consumption There's some customers that are on seat-based licenses with us, and they don't have access to all the features. there's some customers that are on seat-based licenses with us and they don't have access to all the features We have new features rolling out all the time, and if you want to use those features, then you need to be on consumption. And so, you know, as we go out and market the different product offerings that we have and the new product offerings that we have, those all lead to additional consumption conversations. So we're definitely laser-focused on that. You know, we've seen this 20% cohort of consumption that's in our business today, and it looks better than every other 20% cohort that you could find. So we're gonna do anything and everything we can to get the entire business moved over to that because just everyone ends up happier on the consumption model. We have new features rolling out all the time, and if you want to use those features, then you need to be on consumption. we have new features rolling out all the time and if you want to use those features then you need to be on consumption And so, you know, as we go out and market the different product offerings that we have and the new product offerings that we have, those all lead to additional consumption conversations. and so you know as we go out and market the different product offerings that we have and the new product offerings that we have those all lead to additional consumption conversations So we're definitely laser-focused on that. so we're definitely laser-focused on that You know, we've seen this 20% cohort of consumption that's in our business today, and it looks better than every other 20% cohort that you could find. you know we've seen this 20% cohort of consumption that's in our business today and it looks better than every other 20% cohort that you could find So we're gonna do anything and everything we can to get the entire business moved over to that because just everyone ends up happier on the consumption model. so we're gonna do anything and everything we can to get the entire business moved over to that because just everyone ends up happier on the consumption model
Speaker 1: Appreciate the color. Thanks. Appreciate the color. appreciate the color Thanks. thanks
Speaker 4: Yeah, you bet. Thank you. Yeah, you bet. yeah you bet Thank you. thank you
Speaker 5: Thank you. We'll take our next question from Sanjit Singh with Morgan Stanley. Thank you. thank you We'll take our next question from Sanjit Singh with Morgan Stanley. we'll take our next question from sanjit singh with morgan stanley
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you for squeezing me in, and sorry, I've been toggling between multiple calls, so if I'm repeating a question, I apologize upfront. But David, just given the sort of the, you know, refinancing of the debt and sort of the higher rate environment and given the sort of actions you guys are doing today on cost, to what extent could debt paydown be part of, like, the capital allocation strategy, given that the budget environment is still pretty constrained right now? How do you look at debt paydown as a potential lever for, you know, increasing sort of, you know, the equity value of the company? Yeah, thank you for squeezing me in, and sorry, I've been toggling between multiple calls, so if I'm repeating a question, I apologize upfront. yeah thank you for squeezing me in and sorry i've been toggling between multiple calls so if i'm repeating a question i apologize upfront But David, just given the sort of the, you know, refinancing of the debt and sort of the higher rate environment and given the sort of actions you guys are doing today on cost, to what extent could debt paydown be part of, like, the capital allocation strategy, given that the budget environment is still pretty constrained right now? but david just given the sort of the you know refinancing of the debt and sort of the higher rate environment and given the sort of actions you guys are doing today on cost to what extent could debt paydown be part of like the capital allocation strategy given that the budget environment is still pretty constrained right now How do you look at debt paydown as a potential lever for, you know, increasing sort of, you know, the equity value of the company? how do you look at debt paydown as a potential lever for you know increasing sort of you know the equity value of the company
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the good thing is even sort of as is with a very modest growth expectation for next year, I think, you know, we're free cash flow positive, which puts us in a great position. So if we're able to accomplish some of the things that Josh talked about in accelerating our shift to consumption, and if we get any sort of help from the macro environment, you know, then we're into producing some meaningful cash flow that then could be used to potentially retire some debt. As you know, there's usually some penalties when you pay it down in the first year, so, you know, we'll look at that. Yeah, I mean, the good thing is even sort of as is with a very modest growth expectation for next year, I think, you know, we're free cash flow positive, which puts us in a great position. yeah i mean the good thing is even sort of as is with a very modest growth expectation for next year i think you know we're free cash flow positive which puts us in a great position So if we're able to accomplish some of the things that Josh talked about in accelerating our shift to consumption, and if we get any sort of help from the macro environment, you know, then we're into producing some meaningful cash flow that then could be used to potentially retire some debt. so if we're able to accomplish some of the things that josh talked about in accelerating our shift to consumption and if we get any sort of help from the macro environment you know then we're into producing some meaningful cash flow that then could be used to potentially retire some debt As you know, there's usually some penalties when you pay it down in the first year, so, you know, we'll look at that. as you know there's usually some penalties when you pay it down in the first year so you know we'll look at that But I think it'll be, probably will be a lot better positioned as we move into some of those succeeding years to start, reducing that, you know, well in advance of a maturity, certainly. But I think it'll be, probably will be a lot better positioned as we move into some of those succeeding years to start, reducing that, you know, well in advance of a maturity, certainly. but i think it'll be probably will be a lot better positioned as we move into some of those succeeding years to start reducing that you know well in advance of a maturity certainly
Speaker 8: Great. Appreciate the thoughts. And then, Josh, on, you know, this is kind of coming out of the AWS conference, and when I, you know, hear about people's data strategies, one of the bigger themes is sort of, English being the new programming language and English being the new SQL, and just want to get a sense of how you guys are sort of abstracting away, kind of traditional BI-type user interfaces to more of that, generative AI modality where users are just, you know, sort of, you know, using, you know, natural language, English, to get the insights that they need from, Domo. Great. great Appreciate the thoughts. appreciate the thoughts And then, Josh, on, y ou know, this is kind of coming out of the AWS conference, and when I, you know, hear about people's data strategies, one of the bigger themes is sort of, English being the new programming language and English being the new SQL, and just want to get a sense of how you guys are sort of abstracting away, kind of traditional BI-type user interfaces to more of that, generative AI modality where users are just, you know, sort of, you know, using, you know, natural language, English, to get the insights that they need from, Domo. and then josh on, y ou know this is kind of coming out of the aws conference and when i you know hear about people's data strategies one of the bigger themes is sort of english being the new programming language and english being the new sql and just want to get a sense of how you guys are sort of abstracting away kind of traditional bi-type user interfaces to more of that generative ai modality where users are just you know sort of you know using you know natural language english to get the insights that they need from domo
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's terribly exciting because, you know, one of the most challenging things in business intelligence, or in, leveraging the data that you have in your company is just getting access to it, and the big part of getting access to it is connecting to it, all of the ETL that needs to go into it. And you're right, that's where, you know, these, these, antiquated languages used to be a big part of it, and going forward, it is about English. And we have a bunch of, a bunch of stuff that we've already incorporated into our products, a bunch of AI that we've incorporated into our products, and a bunch of generative AI that we're gonna be incorporating over the next few months into exploring the data, into building cards, into sharing data. Yeah, I mean, it's terribly exciting because, you know, one of the most challenging things in business intelligence, or in, leveraging the data that you have in your company is just getting access to it, and the big part of getting access to it is connecting to it, all of the ETL that needs to go into it. yeah i mean it's terribly exciting because you know one of the most challenging things in business intelligence or in leveraging the data that you have in your company is just getting access to it and the big part of getting access to it is connecting to it all of the etl that needs to go into it And you're right, that's where, you know, these, these, antiquated languages used to be a big part of it, and going forward, it is about English. and you're right that's where you know these these antiquated languages used to be a big part of it and going forward it is about english And we have a bunch of, a bunch of stuff that we've already incorporated into our products, a bunch of AI that we've incorporated into our products, and a bunch of generative AI that we're gonna be incorporating over the next few months into exploring the data, into building cards, into sharing data. and we have a bunch of a bunch of stuff that we've already incorporated into our products a bunch of ai that we've incorporated into our products and a bunch of generative ai that we're gonna be incorporating over the next few months into exploring the data into building cards into sharing data You know, having a data set and having AI suggest to you, you know, what you should look at, what format it should look like, being able to pick and choose from things that it suggests to you, fully formed, you know, reports. And so it's gonna dramatically alter the landscape. It's gonna dramatically alter the interactions and the benefits that the customers get, so we're really excited about that. We feel like we're extremely well-positioned. When you look at the data that powers AI, you know, it all depends on how organized that data is, and if your data is organized like a bunch of trash, then that's exactly what you're gonna get back. You know, having a data set and having AI suggest to you, you know, what you should look at, what format it should look like, being able to pick and choose from things that it suggests to you, fully formed, you know, reports. you know having a data set and having ai suggest to you you know what you should look at what format it should look like being able to pick and choose from things that it suggests to you fully formed you know reports And so it's gonna dramatically alter the landscape. and so it's gonna dramatically alter the landscape It's gonna dramatically alter the interactions and the benefits that the customers get, so we're really excited about that. it's gonna dramatically alter the interactions and the benefits that the customers get so we're really excited about that We feel like we're extremely well-positioned. we feel like we're extremely well-positioned When you look at the data that powers AI, you know, it all depends on how organized that data is, and if your data is organized like a bunch of trash, then that's exactly what you're gonna get back. when you look at the data that powers ai you know it all depends on how organized that data is and if your data is organized like a bunch of trash then that's exactly what you're gonna get back When you use Domo, you actually not only organize your data, but you have a bunch of metadata about that data, and that's what helps AI really come up with great conclusions when it actually has an indication of what type of data is sitting there. Because, you know, in the data world, it could be anything. It could be unstructured, messy data, and it might be data that's coming from another data warehouse. You actually don't know the root source of it, and so you need to be able to have the metadata around that and have data organized in a way, and that's one of the things that we really do with our customers, is help them organize that so that they can take advantage of all the different technologies and innovations that are rapidly coming out from AI. When you use Domo, you actually not only organize your data, but you have a bunch of metadata about that data, and that's what helps AI really come up with great conclusions when it actually has an indication of what type of data is sitting there. when you use domo you actually not only organize your data but you have a bunch of metadata about that data and that's what helps ai really come up with great conclusions when it actually has an indication of what type of data is sitting there Because, you know, in the data world, it could be anything. because you know in the data world it could be anything It could be unstructured, messy data, and it might be data that's coming from another data warehouse. it could be unstructured messy data and it might be data that's coming from another data warehouse You actually don't know the root source of it, and so you need to be able to have the metadata around that and have data organized in a way, and that's one of the things that we really do with our customers, is help them organize that so that they can take advantage of all the different technologies and innovations that are rapidly coming out from AI. you actually don't know the root source of it and so you need to be able to have the metadata around that and have data organized in a way and that's one of the things that we really do with our customers is help them organize that so that they can take advantage of all the different technologies and innovations that are rapidly coming out from ai So we feel like we're extremely well-positioned for that, and that's another big part of, you know, why we want to be in the middle of consumption because, you know, again, if you're using consumption, anything that is in our product, you can try out, and it's gonna cost you $1 to try it out. It's not a, you know, a $50,000 commitment, and you gotta buy a couple seats. It's just go and click on it, see what it does, see if it produces something that's effective, and then if it does, of course, you're gonna start using it more. And because you already know it's effective, even though you're using it more and you're getting a bill for it, you don't care because you already proved the value. So we feel like we're extremely well-positioned for that, and that's another big part of, you know, why we want to be in the middle of consumption because, you know, again, if you're using consumption, anything that is in our product, you can try out, and it's gonna cost you $1 to try it out. so we feel like we're extremely well-positioned for that and that's another big part of you know why we want to be in the middle of consumption because you know again if you're using consumption anything that is in our product you can try out and it's gonna cost you $1 to try it out It's not a, you know, a $50,000 commitment, and you gotta buy a couple seats. it's not a you know a $50,000 commitment and you gotta buy a couple seats It's just go and click on it, see what it does, see if it produces something that's effective, and then if it does, of course, you're gonna start using it more. it's just go and click on it see what it does see if it produces something that's effective and then if it does of course you're gonna start using it more And because you already know it's effective, even though you're using it more and you're getting a bill for it, you don't care because you already proved the value. and because you already know it's effective even though you're using it more and you're getting a bill for it you don't care because you already proved the value So that's another, just another reason why consumption is such an important part of this, where we see, you know, 2x, 3x usage of the additional features and functionality we have in our product when it's a consumption customer because they're able to try it out and prove that it works. So we're really excited about AI and the way it's gonna impact our business, broadly speaking, and feel like we're really well-positioned to take advantage of that. So that's another, just another reason why consumption is such an important part of this, where we see, you know, 2x, 3x usage of the additional features and functionality we have in our product when it's a consumption customer because they're able to try it out and prove that it works. so that's another just another reason why consumption is such an important part of this where we see you know 2x 3x usage of the additional features and functionality we have in our product when it's a consumption customer because they're able to try it out and prove that it works So we're really excited about AI and the way it's gonna impact our business, broadly speaking, and feel like we're really well-positioned to take advantage of that. so we're really excited about ai and the way it's gonna impact our business broadly speaking and feel like we're really well-positioned to take advantage of that
Speaker 8: Appreciate the thoughts, Josh. Thank you. Appreciate the thoughts, Josh. appreciate the thoughts josh Thank you. thank you
Speaker 4: You bet. Thanks. You bet. you bet Thanks. thanks
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