Clariant AG — Call Transcript 2025

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Clariant Third Quarter Nine Month Figures 2025 Conference Call and Live Webcast. I am Sandra, the call operator. I would like to remind you that all participants will be in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a Q&A session. You can register for questions at any time by pressing star and one on your telephone. For operator assistance, please press star and zero. The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, It's my pleasure to hand over to Andreas Schwarzwälder, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir. Thank you, Sandra. Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. It's my pleasure to welcome you to this call. Joining me today are Conrad Keijzer, Clariant's CEO, and Oliver Rittgen, who joined Clariant as Clariant's CFO on August 1st, and is participating in his first results call today. Welcome, Oliver. Thank you. Conrad will start today's call by providing a summary of the third quarter developments, followed by Oliver, who will guide us through the business unit results and savings program. Conrad will then conclude with the outlook for the full year 2025. There will be a Q&A session following our presentation. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. I would like to remind all participants that the presentation includes forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. Listeners and readers are therefore encouraged to refer to the disclaimer on slide 2 of today's presentation. As a reminder, the conference call is being recorded. A replay and transcript of this call will be available on the investor relations section of the Clariant website. Let me now hand over to Conrad to begin the presentation. Thank you, Andreas. I'm pleased to report that Clariant achieved significant growth in EBITDA before exceptional items in the third quarter of 2025, showcasing the success of our performance improvement programs and effective price, and cost management in a continued challenging market environment for our sector. We delivered sales of CHF 906 million. This represents a 3% decrease in local currencies, and a 9% decrease in Swiss francs. Our EBITDA before exceptional items increased by 5% in absolute terms to CHF 162 million. We delivered a significant margin improvement of 230 basis points to 17.9%, driven by our performance improvement programs as well as price and cost management across all of our business units. Our savings program continued to support our performace in Q3. We achieved savings of CHF 19 million and booked CHF 3 million of restructuring charges in the quarter, taking our total savings to CHF 31 million in the first nine months of 2025. As a reminder, this program is set to deliver CHF 18 million by 2027, with a significant contribution expected this year. We expect to book the total CHF 75 million of restructuring charges related to this program in 2025. Now turning to our 2025 guidance, we anticipate local currency sales growth at the lower end of our guided 1%-3% range, due to weaker industrial production and weaker consumer sentiment. We also confirm our 2025 profitability guidance of 17%-18% EBITDA margin before exceptional items, underscoring our confidence in sustaining our improved levels of profitability. Last Friday, Clariant's Board of Directors decided to reduce its size from 11 to eight members. This will be reflected in the nominations for the upcoming AGM 2026 on April 1st next year. Supporting these changes, five current directors will not stand for re-election and two new independent members will be nominated as appropriate ahead of the 2026 AGM. With this proposal, the board aligns with Clariant's rights organizational setup, and it optimizes independence, tenure, and gender diversity. The management team thanks the departing directors for their trustful collaboration over many years. Now moving on to more details relating to our financial performance. In the third quarter of 2025, we delivered sales of CHF 906 million in local currency. This represents a 3% decrease, with the reported figure impacted by a 6% negative currency translation effect. We maintained pricing discipline across our portfolio with a year-on-year increase in adsorbents and additives, and flat pricing in care chemicals and catalysts. Volumes decreased at a low single-digit percentage rate in care chemicals, and adsorbents and additives, while catalyst volumes decreased by 8% as the weak economic environment and utilization rates continued to trade below long-term averages, impacting refill timing. Turning to profitability, as I already noted, we had a strong overall performance, with a 230 basis point improvement in EBITDA margins before exceptional items versus the third quarter of 2024. In total, the business units drove a 130 basis point improvement, mainly from our performance improvement programs, price, and cost management. The remaining 100 basis points was in corporate, with the majority related to phasing of provisions. In care chemicals, lower volumes were more than offset by a positive mix effect and contribution from Lucas Meyer Cosmetics. In catalysts, lower volumes were partly compensated by pricing and cost management. In adsorbents and additives, profitability was positively impacted by pricing and mix effect despite slightly lower volumes. Reported EBITDA increased by 14% to CHF 159 million, representing a reported margin of 17.5%, including CHF 3 million restructuring charges booked in the quarter. With that, I now hand over to Oliver for further details on our business performance in the third quarter. Thank you, Conrad. Good afternoon, everyone. It's great to join the call today, and present the first set of quarterly results as the CFO of Clariant. I look forward to fruitful discussions with our investors and the analyst community going forward. Let us now dive into the third quarter development by business unit, starting with care chemicals, where we recorded a strong margin uplift despite a weak industrial market environment. Sales declined by 3% in local currency, entirely due to lower volumes. We recorded high single-digit organic growth in mining solutions, as we were able to cater for increased demand and compare against prior year, which was impacted by destocking. Sales in oil services increased at a mid-single-digit percentage rate, recovering from shut-ins in the first half of this year. As mentioned, the weak industrial market environment also impacted our industrial applications and base chemicals businesses, both recording a high single-digit decline, suffering from tariff uncertainties. Finally, personal home care and crop solutions both declined at a low single-digit percentage rate. Regionally, sales in EMEA as well as the Americas decreased by a mid single-digit percentage rate, as destocking led to lower order volumes. Sales in Asia Pacific increased at a low single-digit percentage rate as the capacity expansion in Daya Bay, China drove local volume growth. We recorded an EBITDA before exceptional items of CHF 92 million, representing a stable performance compared to the prior year. This translated into a margin of 18.9%, representing a 150 basis points improvement. Profitability was positively impacted by the strong operational performance of Lucas Meyer Cosmetics, as well as positive mix effect and contribution from the performance improvement programs. In catalysts, we were able to drive a margin improvement in a weak demand environment. Sales decreased by 8% in local currency, entirely as a result of lower volumes versus the prior year period. Low double-digit sales growth in specialties did not offset declines in the other segments. The weak environments and utilization rates continuing to trade below long-term averages impacted refill timings for propylene catalysts in China in particular, leading to a high double-digit percentage rate decline. Sales in syngas and fuels, as well as ethylene were down by a mid single-digit percentage rate, versus a strong comparable in the case of syngas and fuels. Regional dynamics were driven by the refill delivery schedules of the business, with sales in the Americas increasing at a high double-digit percentage rate, driven by deliveries in propylene and ethylene catalysts. In both EMEA and Asia Pacific, sales decreased at a high single-digit percentage rate, driven by lower sales in ethylene catalysts in EMEA and lower propylene catalysts in China. In the third quarter, EBITDA before exceptional items decreased by 13% to CHF 33 million, representing a margin of 19.3% versus 18.7% in the prior year. This was driven by gross margin improvement and contributions from performance improvement programs, which more than offset the impact of lower volumes. Moving to adsorbents and additives, where we also drove margin improvement of 130 basis points versus prior year, supported by our continued additives growth. Sales increased by 1% in local currency, with pricing up 3%, while volumes decreased by 2%. By segment, adsorbents sales decreased by a mid single-digit percentage rate, while additives increased by a high single-digit percentage rate. Regionally, we recorded sales growth in EMEA at a low single-digit percentage rate, driven by pricing. In the Americas, sales decreased at a high single-digit percentage rate, as growth in additives did not fully offset a decline in adsorbents. Sales increased at a low double-digit percentage rate in Asia Pacific, driven by volume growth in both adsorbents and additives. EBITDA before exceptional items increased by 5% to CHF 42 million, with a margin of 17.2% versus 15.9% in the prior year. Profitability was driven by growth and mix effects in additives, as well as benefits from the performance improvement programs. Cost efficiencies in raw materials of 5% also contributed positively. Now turning to our Investor Day savings program. As a reminder, we expect full run rate savings of CHF 80 million from business unit and corporate actions to be delivered by end of 2027, for the savings programs that we announced in November of last year. As Conrad mentioned earlier, savings achieved in the first nine months total CHF 31 million, with CHF 19 million delivered in the third quarter. Key measures aimed at helping us to deliver these savings are being implemented. These include headcount reduction of approximately 340 full-time equivalents as of 30th of September 2025, across the businesses and corporate functions, the closure of two production lines and two sites globally as part of our footprint optimization, and procurement savings of CHF 15 million related to structural changes in qualifying alternative suppliers and best practice contract management. In the first nine months of 2025, we booked CHF 63 million of the expected CHF 75 million in restructuring. With this, I close my remarks and hand back to you, Conrad. Thank you, Oliver. Let me conclude with our outlook for 2025. There remains an increased level of risk and uncertainty due to tariffs and trade tensions, which has a negative impact on global industrial growth expectations and consumer sentiment. According to the latest assessment of Oxford Economics, the global GDP is mainly driven by AI investments and services, while industrial production is still lagging. In addition, the uncertainty created by tariffs and trade tensions is impacting consumer demand for durable and semi-durable goods. Oxford Economics global GDP growth projection for 2025 has slightly increased from 2.5% after H1 to 2.8% in October, driven by the AI boom in the U.S. On the other hand, their chemicals industry forecast further declined to 2.1% growth from 2.2% growth after the first half year in 2025, and from 2.9% at the beginning of this year. This weakened market environment assumption in the U.S. and Europe in particular, aligns with our own experience and we therefore expect local currency sales growth to be at the lower end of the 1%-3% range for 2025. We expect slight local currency growth in care chemicals and in adsorbents and additives, with sales in catalysts expected to be slightly below those of 2024. We continue to expect to deliver an EBITDA margin before exceptional items of between 17% and 18%. The continued profitability improvement in prior years and in the first nine months of this year, shows the effectiveness of the structural changes we implemented under our performance improvement programs. We also aim to further improve cash conversion towards our 40% target. Despite these current impacts, we remain committed to delivering our medium-term targets, supported by the continued execution of our targeted initiatives. With that, I turn the call back over to you, Andreas. Thank you, Conrad and Oliver. Ladies and gentlemen, we are now opening the floor for questions. To ensure everyone has a chance to participate, please ask no more than two questions per person. Thank you for your cooperation. Sandra, please go ahead. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your telephone. You will hear a tone to confirm that you have entered the queue. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Questioners on the phone are requested to disable the loudspeaker mode, and eventually turn off the volume of the webcast while asking a question. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. Our first question comes from Thea Badaro from BNP Exane. Please go ahead. Hey. Good afternoon, both. Two questions for me, please. I'll start with the obvious one, you've clearly booked lower exceptional items in the quarter than most people expected. Are you still anticipating the full CHF 75 million to be booked this year, or do you maybe expect some of it to be pushed into next year? My second one is on CapEx. I've noticed that you're now guiding to CHF 180 million versus 10% higher in Q2, and 20% higher at the beginning of the year. Where is most of the cut coming from, and how should we think about it through to 2027? Thank you. Yeah, so I let Oliver comment on the one-offs, and I'm sure he also has some comments to be made on CapEx. Basically, if you look high level at CapEx, we're actually very pleased with, I think a structurally lower level of CapEx when you look at Clariant compared to historic levels. The key reason is that after the opening effect, the opening next week of our new chemicals plant, which was an $80 million investment in China and after the opening of the second line of the additives line in China, which was a $40 million investment, most of the gross CapEx is actually behind us. You see now a switch towards more maintenance-oriented CapEx. That is actually structural, because if you look at the capacities, we're actually quite happy now with the global footprint and we don't target any sort of new greenfield plants in the foreseeable future. Maybe Oliver can comment on one-offs in the quarter and moving forward, as well as maybe some more detailed comments if you have them on CapEx. Sure. Hello to you. Yeah, I mean, you're right, we booked so far like CHF 63 million of one-offs year-to-date. Q3 was a bit of a smaller one with CHF 3 million, but we still foresee, as we communicated before, that we're going to hit the CHF 75 million for the full year and with that, obviously delivering on the CHF 80 million savings that we envisioned. As we said, CHF 31 million of that we have seen in the first nine months, and we still have the confidence that more than half of that will be delivered by the end of the year. Maybe one additional comment on CapEx. Yes, indeed the guidance that we have given with the CHF 180 million is now lower than what we have seen in previous years, and also beginning of the year. Additionally, to Conrad's comments, of course that is also a function of the business dynamics that we're seeing right now, and our commitment to deliver on our cash flow commitments that we have given with managing towards the 40% cash conversion that we have been communicating before. Great, thank you, and nice to meet you, Oliver. Nice to meet you, Thea. The next question comes from Katie Richards from Barclays. Please go ahead. Hi Conrad, Oliver and Andreas, Thank you for taking my questions. I've got one on care chemicals please, and then one on adsorbents and additives, if I may. On care chemicals, could you just talk us through the margin bridge piece? If I take the 1% raw materials decline and higher energy costs, this looks to have been a slight tailwind for the quarter, maybe about CHF 1 million. Obviously we have CHF 5 million outback, I think from the inventory revaluation of Lucas Meyer occurring this quarter. Taking into account the volume headwind, it looks like the positive mix effect or the cost savings coming through must have been pretty significant this quarter. Just any color on the bridge here, and how significant the positive mix effect would have been outside of Lucas Meyer? On adsorbents and additives, I was quite intrigued by your comments that the Americas decreased at high single-digit percentage rates, driven by adsorbents, with volumes impacted by the U.S. Renewable Fuels regulation. I was of the understanding that the EPA was increasing the blending, and this would be a benefit for Clariant. Can you explain what's going on here? Is it just full utilization or regulatory uncertainty? Okay, Katie. Yes, thank you for those questions. I'll make some high-level comments on margins on chemicals, but let Oliver also provide here some additional details. I also will comment on the adsorbents slow demand right now in the U.S. First of all, on chemicals, we were extremely pleased actually with the step up in EBITDA margin, from basically before exceptional items from 17.4% last year to 18.9%. That is a combination of a high level of pricing, where actually we've been able to hold prices in an environment where raw materials went actually down by 1%. That is very consistent with our strategy. We are seeing some competitors sort of going out for volume, but we are actually able to hold prices in an environment where there's weak demand. I think that's a testimony to the strengths of our products, but also I think a big compliment to our frontline sales leaders. Positive effect from pricing on margins. Positive effect from mix, where you see weakness in the sort of lower margin segments like industrial applications and base chemicals, and finally performance improvement programs that are contributing here. Adsorbents, the weakness in renewables in the U.S., yeah, there is clearly a weakness right now if you look at basically biodiesel where we do the purification with our adsorbents. Also, SAF, where we do the purification, there were incentive packages that temporarily were taken away by the new Trump administration. Under the new big and beautiful tax bill, there are actually incentives again. The challenge here is that these still need to be approved by Congress, and the current shutdown of the government hasn't helped here. It is not a structurally lower gross market, but there is a temporary weakness in markets for biodiesel and SAF. We expect this to pick up actually early next year. Thank you. Just one follow-up because you mentioned people going for volume. Some of your competitors have commented on increased agent competition, particularly in [crosstalk]. Do you think you are making volume concessions to protect margins here? No, we're not making any concessions. We just are basically holding price. There's no need for us to lower the price on products that are differentiated enough that they add a lot of value to our customers. That's one effect. I think the other effect is the continued repositioning towards more premium, more specialty, more consumer-facing segments in care chemicals. Thank you. The next question comes from Christian Faitz from Kepler [Capital]. Please go ahead. Yes. Good afternoon, everyone. Two questions, please from my side. In your catalysts business, is there any visibility into 2026, i.e., customers flagging, for example, that mothballed plants might be back and might need a catalyst refill? The second question is actually on Lucas Meyer. I noticed that this business continues to contribute nicely to the profit development of your care chemicals business. Can you please elucidate a bit if the business kept its high operating margins when it entered Clariant? I believe it was actually in the higher 40% EBITDA, or is consumer hesitancy also impacting the Lucas Meyer business a bit? Thanks. Yeah. Thank you very much, Christian for these two questions. First of all, we're not giving an outlook yet for next year 2026 nor for catalysts, but maybe I can reference some of the industry data, where basically if you look at chemical production volumes this year, we're heading for, let's say, a 2.5% growth overall globally in chemical production. That is actually a mix between flat growth in Europe, slightly up in the U.S., and let's say around a 5% growth in China. If you look however, for next year, there is an anticipation of further slowing down in chemical production growth. If you look at next year, the industry outlooks are more like a 1.5% growth for chemical production globally, which basically is an outlook that's based on again flat production volumes in Europe, volumes turning slightly negative actually in the U.S. next year as a result of tariffs. People expect a further slowdown in China from currently, let's say % growth to very low single-digit growth. In terms of bottoming out, we're certainly not bottoming out this year for our catalysts business as you've seen in our numbers. We think though that next year with these outlooks, that is actually a bottom. On a positive note, in 2027, you should see a recovery actually. This is for all of our businesses, a positive. At some point in time, consumers will start to buy durable and semi-durable goods again. People will start to buy new furniture, new electronics products, et cetera. That means a recovery will come in chemicals, but it's delayed. Finally, on Lucas Meyer, we're very pleased with the performance inside Clariant and I can confirm that margins still are, let's say mid to high 40s in terms of EBITDA. Thanks very much. Thank you. The next question comes from Christian Bell from UBS. Please go ahead. Yes. Hello, and well done on the result. I just have two questions. My first question relates to your guidance, which I think I'll ask in two parts, if I can. Part A to that, to meet your sales guidance, you'll need about 5% organic growth in Q4 to offset foreign exchange of about -5% and that's coming off organic growth of -3% in the quarter [just been]. I'm just curious, where is that strength coming from by segment? It looks like you'll need a big fourth quarter for both care and catalysts. Is that market-driven? Keeping in mind you've already indicated that that doesn't seem likely, is it sort of specific projects? Part B to that question is, after narrowing your sales guidance, you've left Q4 EBITDA margin range quite wide by my estimate, sort of 14%-18%. What's behind that variability? I'll wait to ask my second question. Yeah, Christian. The sound was not so great. Could you repeat high level the question in very crisp language because we couldn't hear it very well? Okay, yeah. It's about your guidance, what it implies for the fourth quarter, what you need to do to reach your guidance. On sales, it implies that you need to do about 5% organic growth. I'm wondering where that strength is coming from. It looks like you need to have big quarters from care chemicals and catalysts, which seems difficult in the current environment. Yeah, not clear. Now, let me comment on revenue, and I'll let Oliver comment on the profitability on the EBITDA guidance. If you look at revenue guidance, for us to land at the low end of the 1%-3% local currency growth, what we're guiding for, indeed, you're correct, we need a pickup in the final quarter, not only sequentially, but also relative to prior year. Where we see mainly that happening is in care chemicals, where we actually had last year an unusually weak season for de-icing, that was entirely weather-related. This year, based on a normalized sort of pattern in terms of the weather, we should see a big pickup in care chemicals relative to prior year and also sequentially. On top of that, we actually see a strong pipeline in mining. You see that in our numbers, our Q3 numbers as well as in oil services. Both of these increases in Q3 were market share related, which should continue as a positive momentum in fourth quarter. Finally, the Lucas Meyer business continues to do well both in terms of revenue and margins. Catalysts is against a very strong Q4 last year. Based on the order book, we expect a solid quarter in catalysts both for PDH propane to propylene orders in the book from China again, as well as for ethylene. Finally, adsorbents and additives is slowing as mentioned, but we expect the pattern to continue consistent with prior quarters. All in all, we do indeed expect a pickup from prior year, which should land us somewhere close to the bottom end of this guidance range. Maybe Oliver, some comments on EBITDA margins. Yeah. Hi, Christian. Maybe one addition to the top line, which also explains a little bit the bottom line performance, you have seen the catalyst volume decline of 8% in Q3. There was indeed a bit of a move from some of the orders from Q3 into Q4. This is why you see a softer Q3 in catalysts. Obviously, that will be part of that driver for the Q4 performance that we are expecting. With that, based on the top-line picture that Conrad was painting here, the growth in catalysts and the growth in care chemicals is going to drive margins in the fourth quarter. We have two counter effects. One is that we slow down on production in additives and adsorbents, as a measure also of optimizing our net working capital and staying committed on the cash flow performance. The second one is the corporate cost phasing that we were mentioning in Q3, which is a different phasing of incentive provisions this year versus previous year. You see those costs coming back in Q4 then. That's going to drive the margin performance. We expect obviously to land in the margin in the guidance range that we have provided. I think my question was slightly more simple in a way, in that how come you have narrowed your sales guidance but you haven't sort of narrowed your margin guidance for the fourth quarter? Why is the sort of margin guidance so wide in the fourth quarter alone? We haven't really adjusted our guidance overall, as you know. The sales guidance is since second-quarter, the 1%-3% and the margin guidance is also still 17%-18%. We didn't adjust any of the guidance ranges. There's no particular reason behind that. Okay, cool. Sorry, if I could just squeeze in my second question. I think that sort of follows on from one of the previous ones. Some of the commentary from your peers in key chemical segment, just curious, is that sort of increased competition from Chinese players a more recent development, and how do you sort of see that dynamic evolving in the near to medium term? Yeah. Increasing competition from Chinese players, we are actually seeing little of that in our segments. Catalysts is a true specialty business which requires a lot of IP and technology. We see very limited competition there from Chinese players. In chemicals, certainly the segments where we are playing, we also see very limited competition. Where we are seeing actually quite some activity is in the additives area. That is actually for local players, for example, for UV stabilizers, but even some local players for flame retardants. Now, some of these are frankly the so-called copycats that are infringing our IP, and we're going obviously against that. We are well-positioned with local manufacturing for flame retardants there. One of the things that we did see was for the UV stabilizers, that we were no longer competitive with the plants out of Muttenz in Switzerland. This is actually part of the recent restructuring line, that we will actually transfer that production from Switzerland to India, to become more competitive for these UV stabilizers. In all of these segments, we have differentiated technology, but local manufacturing in China has become really a prerequisite to be competitive. All right, thank you for answering my question. Thank you. The next question comes from James Hooper from Bernstein. Please go ahead. Hi, good afternoon. Thank you very much for taking my questions. The first one's around the board changes. Can you give us a little bit more background on why you wanted to cut the numbers on the board? Also, a little bit more on what you're looking for from the new board members, and what you're expecting the board to do. The second one's a little bit about capital allocation. I think it was referenced earlier in the CapEx question that you've been taking CapEx down a little bit in order to protect cash flows. Given the low growth environment we find ourselves in, and particularly 2026, not a high year for chemical production. Is there an extent that you need to trade off your kind of 2027 medium-term targets? You're making great progress on the margins, but are you going to have to choose a little bit between making growth investments in this macro environment or protecting cash flows? Thanks very much. Yeah. Thank you very much, James. I'll take the first question on the board changes, and then Oliver will make some comments on capital allocation and CapEx specifically. If you look at the board changes, what we have done recently over the years in the company is actually to right-size the company in terms of delayering, in terms of taking out duplication. In management, we used to have this decision making matrix with functional directors, country directors, BU directors. We basically implement four P&Ls and three business units. The board basically in size has not adjusted. The consistent feedback from proxy advisors recently has been that they perceive the board of Clariant, I should say, as too large. Feedback from proxy advisors also has been that on gender diversity, we are currently not meeting the 30% target for a minimum representation of females on the board. Finally, in terms of independent board members, some of our board members had a tenure above 12 year, and then they are no longer seen as independent. It is these three elements that consistently have been brought up by the proxy advisors, the size of the board, the diversity of the board, the independence of the board, that actually are now being addressed, with the reduction of the board to eight and by bringing in two new independent outside board members. It's not that we're lacking certain expertise to your question, it's really very much building on the feedback by proxy advisors. Okay. Hi, James. On your capital allocation question, and without maybe hitting too much on the 2027, because as we said before, we were not looking at specific numbers now for 2027, but maybe more in general, how we will look at capital allocation, how we approach it is very much from focusing on a triangle of growth, margin, and cash. The decisions around capital allocation are pretty much balancing this off across the portfolio and the segments that we are having. Capital allocation of course is the strategy that we're having here, is to fund innovation to drive the growth for the future and with that, also driving then obviously the cash generation of the company. In terms of capacity availability for a potential growth pickup in 2027, this is what the industry indicates at the moment. There's capacity available for us, so we are also well prepared for a potential pickup in that time window. The next question comes from Tristan Lamotte from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking my questions, a couple which are kind of linked and high level. In chemicals, I was wondering, is your view that something has changed structurally in Europe in H2 2025 or is this kind of a global and cyclical weakness? I'm just trying to figure out if this weak Q3 level is kind of the new run rate, or if there's something kind of exceptional in the H2 that will revert. The second part to that question is, I'm just wondering what your current views are on the levels of support that chemicals is getting in Europe and whether this needs to increase, and what practically could be done in that regard. It seems there's been a lot of discussion on what needs to happen, but the follow-through to this date has been quite limited. Thanks. Thank you, Tristan. As far as your question, what has changed, if anything structurally in H2? I think we need to take a look a little bit back further. What structurally changed for Europe is actually 2022, and we have no longer access to cheap piping gas from Russia. That is actually the reason that European production levels in chemicals in Europe are still about 20% below the last year before corona, whereas it has recovered basically in the U.S. and Asia, it's well ahead of pre-corona levels. This is the structural change. It is affecting primarily the chemical industry that is high energy intense, which we're clearly not. It is also affecting parts of the chemical industry that use gas as a footprint, as a feedstock, which we're also not. For us, we have a global footprint. We have 65% of our revenue outside Europe. What we see is a shift of some production and consumption away from Europe, but we pick that then up elsewhere. For us, this as being truly specialty is all manageable. It's fair to say that a good part of the industry is affected by this. To your change, what's Europe doing? I think there are some positive signs. We have first of all the Green Deal, which was primarily a package of legislation and commitments to carbon neutrality in 2050. What you now see is the new European Commission has this Clean Industrial Deal, which is much more focused on the competitiveness of the industry. Europe needs obviously a competitive industry to deliver the Green Deal. I think there are some positive signs here. In all fairness, there's still some ways to go. The carbon taxation is obviously something that at the time that this came up, was absolutely seen as the right instrument. There was however, the assumption that other regions in the world would follow. That's one thing. At the time, the industry was making money. I think two things have changed. The other regions have not followed with carbon taxation, and the industry right now is struggling to a large extent and can then itself much more difficult it is to fund this energy transition. I think this is on the radar for the European Commission. Still, some more work needs to be done here I think. That's great. Thanks. Thank you. The last question is from Walter Bamert from Zürcher Kantonalbank. Please go ahead. Good afternoon. Thank you very much. The first question is regarding the board changes. There it is mentioned that the two new board members will be independent. Does this apply that these are not from SABIC, so the SABIC members will be reduced from four to two? Yeah. That's correct, Walter. The SABIC representatives have been reduced from four to two. I will also say that the German shareholders had representation of two board members, that also has been reduced from two to one. Indeed, the two new board members coming in from the outside will be independent board members. Okay, then can you please help me with the headquarter cost which was very low in the third quarter? Should that be for the full second half be at the level of the previous year, so a reversal or is it rather that the fourth quarter only is at the previous year level? Yeah. Walter, indeed, this is a phasing between the two quarters, Q3 and Q4, so that cost will come back in Q4. We have a bit of a different phasing of incentives provision from previous year to this year. Okay. I hope for you that the incentives will be at the same level as previous year. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you, Walter. Thank you. [crosstalk] [Ms. Klaatsova], your line is open. You may proceed with your question. Hello, thank you for taking my last minute question. I think I just have one left at this stage. Could you comment in a bit more detail, what developments you are seeing in the crop solutions end market? You have mentioned somewhat softer performance in Q3, but in part due to stronger comparable. How do you see that developing maybe into next year? Again, some of your peers mentioned somewhat slowing momentum in the end market. Yeah. In terms of crop, Angelina, we basically compare against a much weaker prior year where there was still destocking. For the full year, we still see high single-digit growth in crop protection. In the third quarter, we basically had sort of low single-digit negative in crop solutions. That was against actually a strong sort of restocking quarter last year. Underlying, we see good demand. There's nothing here to worry. We actually think for the year, we will end up high single digits. It's actually a strong segment for us. Thank you. We have a question from Ranulf Orr from Citi. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking the question. I'm just wondering about how you view Clariant's portfolio overall as a kind of combination of fairly discrete businesses, and in the context of another weak year in 2026 and frankly, who knows? For 2027, I mean, is now maybe the time to start thinking about whether there's value to be had in breaking Clariant up or doing asset swaps to improve your scale in some of the businesses, and make the individual units more competitive on a global scale.? Thank you. Thank you, Ranulf. If you look at the portfolio high level, where we came from was a hybrid between, on the one hand commodity chemicals and on the other hand, specialty chemicals. Over the years, we have successfully repositioned the business towards purely specialty chemicals. As you are aware, we divested our master batch business. We divested more recently the pigment business, even more recently the North America oil lands business. What we have now is really a portfolio that really is truly specialty in nature. We're actually very pleased with the businesses there. To your point, limited growth in 2026, limited growth this year, there may at some point be a certain level of industry consolidation. That is certainly what most people are predicting. We obviously want to play an active role in that. We've also seen that we've been very disciplined with the acquisitions that we've made in recent years. All of these have actually strengthened our core businesses, and we have no intent to bring in businesses that do not bring true synergy to the existing portfolio. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. We have now a question from Chris Counihan from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Yeah, thanks so much for squeezing me in. I just wanted to come back to the board changes and the reduction, because just sort of thinking back to a few years ago and the accounting investigation that happened I think in 2022. As part of the investigations, you talked about more controls, financial controls over financial reporting, procedures a lot in the finance side. I also remember you at that stage talking about more active board control and involvement in terms of controls at Clariant. I'm just trying to marry the statements from a few years ago versus now, the way forward of reducing the board size, because it almost feels to me like the board's role in such controls is maybe reducing as well. No, Chris. This is totally unrelated. We basically are in 2025 now. We had the accounting challenge. That was actually very early on in my assignment. That was about the 2021 numbers and even 2020 numbers. Indeed, you're right, Chris. We discussed it at the time. We identified a number of serious gaps. We brought in a new CFO. We really strengthened our checks and balances and controls, including more appropriate involvement by including our board members at the time. This is in place now, solidly in place for a number of years. These recent announced board changes are unrelated to that. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Ladies and gentlemen, before we close today's call, we would like to ask for your feedback by scanning the QR code on the presentation or using the link, www.clariant.com investor/feedback. You will be guided to our feedback tool operated by Quantifier. We appreciate your views and your assessment, and sincerely thank you for your support. This concludes our today's conference call. As I said, the transcript of the call will be available on the Clariant website in due course. The investor relations team is available for any further questions you might have. Once again, thank you for joining the call today and good afternoon. Ladies and gentlemen, the conference is now over. 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Speaker 11: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Clariant Third Quarter Nine Month Figures 2025 Conference Call and Live Webcast. I am Sandra, the call operator. I would like to remind you that all participants will be in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a Q&A session. You can register for questions at any time by pressing star and one on your telephone. For operator assistance, please press star and zero. The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, It's my pleasure to hand over to Andreas Schwarzwälder, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Clariant Third Quarter Nine Month Figures 2025 Conference Call and Live Webcast. ladies and gentlemen welcome to clariant third quarter nine month figures 2025 conference call and live webcast I am Sandra, the call operator. i am sandra the call operator I would like to remind you that all participants will be in listen- only mode and the conference is being recorded. i would like to remind you that all participants will be in listen- only mode and the conference is being recorded The presentation will be followed by a Q& A session. the presentation will be followed by a q& a session You can register for questions at any time by pressing star and one on your telephone. you can register for questions at any time by pressing star and one on your telephone For operator assistance, please press star and zero. for operator assistance please press star and zero The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. A t this time, I t's my pleasure to hand over to Andreas Schwarzwälder, Head of Investor Relations. the conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. a t this time, i t's my pleasure to hand over to andreas schwarzwälder head of investor relations Please go ahead, sir. please go ahead sir

Speaker 1: Thank you, Sandra. Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. It's my pleasure to welcome you to this call. Joining me today are Conrad Keijzer, Clariant's CEO, and Oliver Rittgen, who joined Clariant as Clariant's CFO on August 1st, and is participating in his first results call today. Welcome, Oliver. Thank you, Sandra. thank you sandra Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. ladies and gentlemen good afternoon It's my pleasure to welcome you to this call. it's my pleasure to welcome you to this call Joining me today are Conrad Keijzer, Clariant's CEO, and Oliver Rittgen, who joined Clariant as Clariant's CFO on August 1st, and is participating in his first results call today. joining me today are conrad keijzer clariant's ceo and oliver rittgen who joined clariant as clariant's cfo on august 1st and is participating in his first results call today Welcome, Oliver. welcome oliver

Speaker 9: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 1: Conrad will start today's call by providing a summary of the third quarter developments, followed by Oliver, who will guide us through the business unit results and savings program. Conrad will then conclude with the outlook for the full year 2025. There will be a Q&A session following our presentation. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. I would like to remind all participants that the presentation includes forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. Listeners and readers are therefore encouraged to refer to the disclaimer on slide 2 of today's presentation. As a reminder, the conference call is being recorded. A replay and transcript of this call will be available on the investor relations section of the Clariant website. Let me now hand over to Conrad to begin the presentation. Conrad will start today's call by providing a summary of the third quarter developments, followed by Oliver, who will guide us through the business unit results and savings program. conrad will start today's call by providing a summary of the third quarter developments followed by oliver who will guide us through the business unit results and savings program Conrad will then conclude with the outlook for the full year 2025. conrad will then conclude with the outlook for the full year 2025 There will be a Q&A session following our presentation. there will be a q&a session following our presentation At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. at this time all participants are in listen-only mode I would like to remind all participants that the presentation includes forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. i would like to remind all participants that the presentation includes forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties Listeners and readers are therefore encouraged to refer to the disclaimer on slide 2 of today's presentation. listeners and readers are therefore encouraged to refer to the disclaimer on slide 2 of today's presentation As a reminder, the conference call is being recorded. as a reminder the conference call is being recorded A replay and transcript of this call will be available on the investor relations section of the Clariant website. a replay and transcript of this call will be available on the investor relations section of the clariant website Let me now hand over to Conrad to begin the presentation. let me now hand over to conrad to begin the presentation

Speaker 5: Thank you, Andreas. I'm pleased to report that Clariant achieved significant growth in EBITDA before exceptional items in the third quarter of 2025, showcasing the success of our performance improvement programs and effective price, and cost management in a continued challenging market environment for our sector. We delivered sales of CHF 906 million. This represents a 3% decrease in local currencies, and a 9% decrease in Swiss francs. Our EBITDA before exceptional items increased by 5% in absolute terms to CHF 162 million. We delivered a significant margin improvement of 230 basis points to 17.9%, driven by our performance improvement programs as well as price and cost management across all of our business units. Our savings program continued to support our performace in Q3. Thank you, Andreas. thank you andreas I'm pleased to report that Clariant achieved significant growth in EBITDA before exceptional items in the third quarter of 2025, showcasing the success of our performance improvement programs and effective price, and cost management in a continued challenging market environment for our sector. i'm pleased to report that clariant achieved significant growth in ebitda before exceptional items in the third quarter of 2025 showcasing the success of our performance improvement programs and effective price and cost management in a continued challenging market environment for our sector We delivered sales of CHF 906 million. we delivered sales of chf 906 million This represents a 3% decrease in local currencies, and a 9% decrease in Swiss francs. this represents a 3% decrease in local currencies and a 9% decrease in swiss francs Our EBITDA before exceptional items increased by 5% in absolute terms to CHF 162 million. our ebitda before exceptional items increased by 5% in absolute terms to chf 162 million We delivered a significant margin improvement of 230 basis points to 17.9%, driven by our performance improvement programs as well as price and cost management across all of our business units. we delivered a significant margin improvement of 230 basis points to 17.9% driven by our performance improvement programs as well as price and cost management across all of our business units Our savings program continued to support our performace in Q3. our savings program continued to support our performace in q3 We achieved savings of CHF 19 million and booked CHF 3 million of restructuring charges in the quarter, taking our total savings to CHF 31 million in the first nine months of 2025. As a reminder, this program is set to deliver CHF 18 million by 2027, with a significant contribution expected this year. We expect to book the total CHF 75 million of restructuring charges related to this program in 2025. Now turning to our 2025 guidance, we anticipate local currency sales growth at the lower end of our guided 1%-3% range, due to weaker industrial production and weaker consumer sentiment. We also confirm our 2025 profitability guidance of 17%-18% EBITDA margin before exceptional items, underscoring our confidence in sustaining our improved levels of profitability. Last Friday, Clariant's Board of Directors decided to reduce its size from 11 to eight members. We achieved savings of CHF 19 million and booked CHF 3 million of restructuring charges in the quarter, taking our total savings to CHF 31 million in the first nine months of 2025. we achieved savings of chf 19 million and booked chf 3 million of restructuring charges in the quarter taking our total savings to chf 31 million in the first nine months of 2025 As a reminder, this program is set to deliver CHF 18 million by 2027, with a significant contribution expected this year. as a reminder this program is set to deliver chf 18 million by 2027 with a significant contribution expected this year We expect to book the total CHF 75 million of restructuring charges related to this program in 2025. we expect to book the total chf 75 million of restructuring charges related to this program in 2025 Now turning to our 2025 guidance, we anticipate local currency sales growth at the lower end of our guided 1%- 3% range, due to weaker industrial production and weaker consumer sentiment. now turning to our 2025 guidance we anticipate local currency sales growth at the lower end of our guided 1%- 3% range due to weaker industrial production and weaker consumer sentiment We also confirm our 2025 profitability guidance of 17%- 18% EBITDA margin before exceptional items, underscoring our confidence in sustaining our improved levels of profitability. we also confirm our 2025 profitability guidance of 17%- 18% ebitda margin before exceptional items underscoring our confidence in sustaining our improved levels of profitability Last Friday, Clariant's Board of Directors decided to reduce its size from 11 to eight members. last friday clariant's board of directors decided to reduce its size from 11 to eight members This will be reflected in the nominations for the upcoming AGM 2026 on April 1st next year. Supporting these changes, five current directors will not stand for re-election and two new independent members will be nominated as appropriate ahead of the 2026 AGM. With this proposal, the board aligns with Clariant's rights organizational setup, and it optimizes independence, tenure, and gender diversity. The management team thanks the departing directors for their trustful collaboration over many years. Now moving on to more details relating to our financial performance. In the third quarter of 2025, we delivered sales of CHF 906 million in local currency. This represents a 3% decrease, with the reported figure impacted by a 6% negative currency translation effect. We maintained pricing discipline across our portfolio with a year-on-year increase in adsorbents and additives, and flat pricing in care chemicals and catalysts. This will be reflected in the nominations for the upcoming AGM 2026 on April 1st next year. this will be reflected in the nominations for the upcoming agm 2026 on april 1st next year Supporting these changes, five current directors will not stand for re-election and two new independent members will be nominated as appropriate ahead of the 2026 AGM. supporting these changes five current directors will not stand for re-election and two new independent members will be nominated as appropriate ahead of the 2026 agm With this proposal, the board aligns with Clariant's rights organizational setup, and it optimizes independence, tenure, and gender diversity. with this proposal the board aligns with clariant's rights organizational setup and it optimizes independence tenure and gender diversity The management team thanks the departing directors for their trustful collaboration over many years. the management team thanks the departing directors for their trustful collaboration over many years Now moving on to more details relating to our financial performance. now moving on to more details relating to our financial performance In the third quarter of 2025, we delivered sales of CHF 906 million in local currency. in the third quarter of 2025 we delivered sales of chf 906 million in local currency This represents a 3% decrease, with the reported figure impacted by a 6% negative currency translation effect. this represents a 3% decrease with the reported figure impacted by a 6% negative currency translation effect We maintained pricing discipline across our portfolio with a year-on-year increase in adsorbents and additives, and flat pricing in care c hemicals and catalysts. we maintained pricing discipline across our portfolio with a year-on-year increase in adsorbents and additives and flat pricing in care c hemicals and catalysts Volumes decreased at a low single-digit percentage rate in care chemicals, and adsorbents and additives, while catalyst volumes decreased by 8% as the weak economic environment and utilization rates continued to trade below long-term averages, impacting refill timing. Turning to profitability, as I already noted, we had a strong overall performance, with a 230 basis point improvement in EBITDA margins before exceptional items versus the third quarter of 2024. In total, the business units drove a 130 basis point improvement, mainly from our performance improvement programs, price, and cost management. The remaining 100 basis points was in corporate, with the majority related to phasing of provisions. Volumes decreased at a low single-digit percentage rate in care chemicals, and adsorbents and additives, while catalyst volumes decreased by 8% as the weak economic environment and utilization rates continued to trade below long-term averages, impacting refill timing. volumes decreased at a low single-digit percentage rate in care chemicals and adsorbents and additives while catalyst volumes decreased by 8% as the weak economic environment and utilization rates continued to trade below long-term averages impacting refill timing Turning to profitability, as I already noted, we had a strong overall performance, with a 230 basis point improvement in EBITDA margins before exceptional items versus the third quarter of 2024. turning to profitability as i already noted we had a strong overall performance with a 230 basis point improvement in ebitda margins before exceptional items versus the third quarter of 2024 In total, the business units drove a 130 basis point improvement, mainly from our performance improvement programs, price, and cost management. in total the business units drove a 130 basis point improvement mainly from our performance improvement programs price and cost management The remaining 100 basis points was in corporate, with the majority related to phasing of provisions. the remaining 100 basis points was in corporate with the majority related to phasing of provisions In care chemicals, lower volumes were more than offset by a positive mix effect and contribution from Lucas Meyer Cosmetics. In catalysts, lower volumes were partly compensated by pricing and cost management. In adsorbents and additives, profitability was positively impacted by pricing and mix effect despite slightly lower volumes. Reported EBITDA increased by 14% to CHF 159 million, representing a reported margin of 17.5%, including CHF 3 million restructuring charges booked in the quarter. With that, I now hand over to Oliver for further details on our business performance in the third quarter. In care chemicals, l ower volumes were more than offset by a positive mix effect and contribution from Lucas Meyer Cosmetics. in care chemicals, l ower volumes were more than offset by a positive mix effect and contribution from lucas meyer cosmetics In catalysts, lower volumes were partly compensated by pricing and cost management. in catalysts lower volumes were partly compensated by pricing and cost management In adsorbents and additives, p rofitability was positively impacted by pricing and mix effect despite slightly lower volumes. in adsorbents and additives, p rofitability was positively impacted by pricing and mix effect despite slightly lower volumes Reported EBITDA increased by 14% to CHF 159 million, representing a reported margin of 17.5%, including CHF 3 million restructuring charges booked in the quarter. reported ebitda increased by 14% to chf 159 million representing a reported margin of 17.5% including chf 3 million restructuring charges booked in the quarter With that, I now hand over to Oliver for further details on our business performance in the third quarter. with that i now hand over to oliver for further details on our business performance in the third quarter

Speaker 9: Thank you, Conrad. Good afternoon, everyone. It's great to join the call today, and present the first set of quarterly results as the CFO of Clariant. I look forward to fruitful discussions with our investors and the analyst community going forward. Let us now dive into the third quarter development by business unit, starting with care chemicals, where we recorded a strong margin uplift despite a weak industrial market environment. Sales declined by 3% in local currency, entirely due to lower volumes. We recorded high single-digit organic growth in mining solutions, as we were able to cater for increased demand and compare against prior year, which was impacted by destocking. Sales in oil services increased at a mid-single-digit percentage rate, recovering from shut-ins in the first half of this year. Thank you, Conrad. thank you conrad Good afternoon, everyone. good afternoon everyone It's great to join the call today, and present the first set of quarterly results a s the CFO of Clariant. it's great to join the call today and present the first set of quarterly results a s the cfo of clariant I look forward to fruitful discussions with our investors and the analyst community going forward. i look forward to fruitful discussions with our investors and the analyst community going forward Let us now dive into the third quarter development by business unit, starting with care chemicals, where we recorded a strong margin uplift despite a weak industrial market environment. let us now dive into the third quarter development by business unit starting with care chemicals where we recorded a strong margin uplift despite a weak industrial market environment Sales declined by 3% in local currency, entirely due to lower volumes. sales declined by 3% in local currency entirely due to lower volumes We recorded high single-digit organic growth in mining solutions, as we were able to cater for increased demand and compare against prior year, which was impacted by destocking. we recorded high single-digit organic growth in mining solutions as we were able to cater for increased demand and compare against prior year which was impacted by destocking Sales in oil services increased at a mid- single-digit percentage rate, recovering from shut-ins in the first half of this year. sales in oil services increased at a mid- single-digit percentage rate recovering from shut-ins in the first half of this year As mentioned, the weak industrial market environment also impacted our industrial applications and base chemicals businesses, both recording a high single-digit decline, suffering from tariff uncertainties. Finally, personal home care and crop solutions both declined at a low single-digit percentage rate. Regionally, sales in EMEA as well as the Americas decreased by a mid single-digit percentage rate, as destocking led to lower order volumes. Sales in Asia Pacific increased at a low single-digit percentage rate as the capacity expansion in Daya Bay, China drove local volume growth. We recorded an EBITDA before exceptional items of CHF 92 million, representing a stable performance compared to the prior year. This translated into a margin of 18.9%, representing a 150 basis points improvement. Profitability was positively impacted by the strong operational performance of Lucas Meyer Cosmetics, as well as positive mix effect and contribution from the performance improvement programs. As mentioned, the weak industrial market environment also impacted our industrial applications and base chemicals businesses, both recording a high single-digit decline, suffering from tariff uncertainties. as mentioned the weak industrial market environment also impacted our industrial applications and base chemicals businesses both recording a high single-digit decline suffering from tariff uncertainties Finally, personal home care and crop solutions both declined at a low single-digit percentage rate. finally personal home care and crop solutions both declined at a low single-digit percentage rate Regionally, sales in EMEA as well as the Americas decreased by a mid single-digit percentage rate, as destocking led to lower order volumes. regionally sales in emea as well as the americas decreased by a mid single-digit percentage rate as destocking led to lower order volumes Sales in Asia Pacific increased at a low single-digit percentage rate as the capacity expansion in Daya Bay, China drove local volume growth. sales in asia pacific increased at a low single-digit percentage rate as the capacity expansion in daya bay china drove local volume growth We recorded an EBITDA before exceptional items of CHF 92 million, representing a stable performance compared to the prior year. we recorded an ebitda before exceptional items of chf 92 million representing a stable performance compared to the prior year This translated into a margin of 18.9%, representing a 150 basis points improvement. this translated into a margin of 18.9% representing a 150 basis points improvement Profitability was positively impacted by the strong operational performance of Lucas Meyer Cosmetics, as well as positive mix effect and contribution from the performance improvement programs. profitability was positively impacted by the strong operational performance of lucas meyer cosmetics as well as positive mix effect and contribution from the performance improvement programs In catalysts, we were able to drive a margin improvement in a weak demand environment. Sales decreased by 8% in local currency, entirely as a result of lower volumes versus the prior year period. Low double-digit sales growth in specialties did not offset declines in the other segments. The weak environments and utilization rates continuing to trade below long-term averages impacted refill timings for propylene catalysts in China in particular, leading to a high double-digit percentage rate decline. Sales in syngas and fuels, as well as ethylene were down by a mid single-digit percentage rate, versus a strong comparable in the case of syngas and fuels. Regional dynamics were driven by the refill delivery schedules of the business, with sales in the Americas increasing at a high double-digit percentage rate, driven by deliveries in propylene and ethylene catalysts. In catalysts, w e were able to drive a margin improvement in a weak demand environment. in catalysts, w e were able to drive a margin improvement in a weak demand environment Sales decreased by 8% in local currency, entirely as a result of lower volumes versus the prior year period. sales decreased by 8% in local currency entirely as a result of lower volumes versus the prior year period Low double-digit sales growth in specialties did not offset declines in the other segments. low double-digit sales growth in specialties did not offset declines in the other segments The weak environments and utilization rates continuing to trade below long-term averages impacted refill timings for propylene catalysts in China in particular, leading to a high double-digit percentage rate decline. the weak environments and utilization rates continuing to trade below long-term averages impacted refill timings for propylene catalysts in china in particular leading to a high double-digit percentage rate decline Sales in syngas and fuels, as well as ethylene were down by a mid single-digit percentage rate, versus a strong comparable in the case of syngas and fuels. sales in syngas and fuels as well as ethylene were down by a mid single-digit percentage rate versus a strong comparable in the case of syngas and fuels Regional dynamics were driven by the refill delivery schedules of the business, with sales in the Americas increasing at a high double-digit percentage rate, driven by deliveries in propylene and ethylene catalysts. regional dynamics were driven by the refill delivery schedules of the business with sales in the americas increasing at a high double-digit percentage rate driven by deliveries in propylene and ethylene catalysts In both EMEA and Asia Pacific, sales decreased at a high single-digit percentage rate, driven by lower sales in ethylene catalysts in EMEA and lower propylene catalysts in China. In the third quarter, EBITDA before exceptional items decreased by 13% to CHF 33 million, representing a margin of 19.3% versus 18.7% in the prior year. This was driven by gross margin improvement and contributions from performance improvement programs, which more than offset the impact of lower volumes. In both EMEA and Asia Pacific, sales decreased at a high single-digit percentage rate, driven by lower sales in ethylene catalysts in EMEA and lower propylene catalysts in China. in both emea and asia pacific sales decreased at a high single-digit percentage rate driven by lower sales in ethylene catalysts in emea and lower propylene catalysts in china In the third quarter, EBITDA before exceptional items decreased by 13% to CHF 33 million, representing a margin of 19.3% versus 18.7% in the prior year. in the third quarter ebitda before exceptional items decreased by 13% to chf 33 million representing a margin of 19.3% versus 18.7% in the prior year This was driven by gross margin improvement and contributions from performance improvement programs, which more than offset the impact of lower v olumes. this was driven by gross margin improvement and contributions from performance improvement programs which more than offset the impact of lower v olumes Moving to adsorbents and additives, where we also drove margin improvement of 130 basis points versus prior year, supported by our continued additives growth. Sales increased by 1% in local currency, with pricing up 3%, while volumes decreased by 2%. By segment, adsorbents sales decreased by a mid single-digit percentage rate, while additives increased by a high single-digit percentage rate. Moving to adsorbents and additives, where we also drove margin improvement of 130 basis points versus prior year, supported by our continued additives growth. S ales increased by 1% in local currency, with pricing up 3%, while volumes decreased by 2%. moving to adsorbents and additives where we also drove margin improvement of 130 basis points versus prior year supported by our continued additives growth. s ales increased by 1% in local currency with pricing up 3% while volumes decreased by 2% By segment, adsorbents sales decreased by a mid single- digit percentage rate, while additives increased by a high single- digit percentage rate. by segment adsorbents sales decreased by a mid single- digit percentage rate while additives increased by a high single- digit percentage rate Regionally, we recorded sales growth in EMEA at a low single-digit percentage rate, driven by pricing. In the Americas, sales decreased at a high single-digit percentage rate, as growth in additives did not fully offset a decline in adsorbents. Sales increased at a low double-digit percentage rate in Asia Pacific, driven by volume growth in both adsorbents and additives. EBITDA before exceptional items increased by 5% to CHF 42 million, with a margin of 17.2% versus 15.9% in the prior year. Regionally, we recorded sales growth in EMEA at a low single- digit percentage rate, driven by pricing. regionally we recorded sales growth in emea at a low single- digit percentage rate driven by pricing In the Americas, sales decreased at a high single- digit percentage rate, as growth in additives did not fully offset a decline in adsorbents. in the americas sales decreased at a high single- digit percentage rate as growth in additives did not fully offset a decline in adsorbents Sales increased at a low double- digit percentage rate in Asia Pacific, driven by volume growth in both adsorbents and additives. sales increased at a low double- digit percentage rate in asia pacific driven by volume growth in both adsorbents and additives EBITDA before exceptional items increased by 5% to CHF 42 million, with a margin of 17.2% versus 15.9% in the prior year. ebitda before exceptional items increased by 5% to chf 42 million with a margin of 17.2% versus 15.9% in the prior year Profitability was driven by growth and mix effects in additives, as well as benefits from the performance improvement programs. Cost efficiencies in raw materials of 5% also contributed positively. Now turning to our Investor Day savings program. As a reminder, we expect full run rate savings of CHF 80 million from business unit and corporate actions to be delivered by end of 2027, for the savings programs that we announced in November of last year. As Conrad mentioned earlier, savings achieved in the first nine months total CHF 31 million, with CHF 19 million delivered in the third quarter. Key measures aimed at helping us to deliver these savings are being implemented. Profitability was driven by growth and mix effects in additives, as well as benefits from the p erformance improvement programs. profitability was driven by growth and mix effects in additives as well as benefits from the p erformance improvement programs Cost efficiencies in raw materials of 5% also contributed positively. cost efficiencies in raw materials of 5% also contributed positively Now turning to our Investor Day savings program. As a reminder, we expect full run rate savings of CHF 80 million f rom business unit and corporate actions to be delivered by end of 2027, for the savings programs that we announced in November of last year. now turning to our investor day savings program. as a reminder we expect full run rate savings of chf 80 million f rom business unit and corporate actions to be delivered by end of 2027 for the savings programs that we announced in november of last year As Conrad mentioned earlier, savings achieved in the first nine months total CHF 31 million, with CHF 19 million delivered in the third quarter. as conrad mentioned earlier savings achieved in the first nine months total chf 31 million with chf 19 million delivered in the third quarter Key measures aimed at helping us to deliver these savings are being implemented. key measures aimed at helping us to deliver these savings are being implemented These include headcount reduction of approximately 340 full-time equivalents as of 30th of September 2025, across the businesses and corporate functions, the closure of two production lines and two sites globally as part of our footprint optimization, and procurement savings of CHF 15 million related to structural changes in qualifying alternative suppliers and best practice contract management. In the first nine months of 2025, we booked CHF 63 million of the expected CHF 75 million in restructuring. With this, I close my remarks and hand back to you, Conrad. These include headcount reduction of approximately 340 full- time eq uivalents as of 30th of September 2025, across the businesses and corporate functions, the closure of two production lines and two sites globally as part of our footprint optimization, and procurement savings of CHF 15 million related to structural changes in qualifying alternative suppliers and best practice contract management. these include headcount reduction of approximately 340 full- time eq uivalents as of 30th of september 2025 across the businesses and corporate functions the closure of two production lines and two sites globally as part of our footprint optimization and procurement savings of chf 15 million related to structural changes in qualifying alternative suppliers and best practice contract management In the first nine months o f 2025, we booked CHF 63 million of the expected CHF 75 million in restructuring. in the first nine months o f 2025 we booked chf 63 million of the expected chf 75 million in restructuring With this, I close my remarks and hand back to you, Conrad. with this i close my remarks and hand back to you conrad

Speaker 5: Thank you, Oliver. Let me conclude with our outlook for 2025. There remains an increased level of risk and uncertainty due to tariffs and trade tensions, which has a negative impact on global industrial growth expectations and consumer sentiment. According to the latest assessment of Oxford Economics, the global GDP is mainly driven by AI investments and services, while industrial production is still lagging. In addition, the uncertainty created by tariffs and trade tensions is impacting consumer demand for durable and semi-durable goods. Oxford Economics global GDP growth projection for 2025 has slightly increased from 2.5% after H1 to 2.8% in October, driven by the AI boom in the U.S. On the other hand, their chemicals industry forecast further declined to 2.1% growth from 2.2% growth after the first half year in 2025, and from 2.9% at the beginning of this year. Thank you, Oliver. thank you oliver Let me conclude with our outlook for 2025. let me conclude with our outlook for 2025 There remains an increased level of risk and uncertainty due to tariffs and trade tensions, which has a negative impact on global industrial growth expectations and consumer sentiment. there remains an increased level of risk and uncertainty due to tariffs and trade tensions which has a negative impact on global industrial growth expectations and consumer sentiment According to the latest assessment of Oxford Economics, the global GDP is mainly driven by AI investments and services, while industrial production is still lagging. according to the latest assessment of oxford economics the global gdp is mainly driven by ai investments and services while industrial production is still lagging In addition, the uncertainty created by tariffs and trade tensions is impacting consumer demand for durable and semi- durable goods. in addition the uncertainty created by tariffs and trade tensions is impacting consumer demand for durable and semi- durable goods Oxford Economics global GDP growth projection for 2025 has slightly increased from 2.5% after H1 to 2.8% in October, driven by the AI boom in the U.S. oxford economics global gdp growth projection for 2025 has slightly increased from 2.5% after h1 to 2.8% in october driven by the ai boom in the u.s On the other hand, their chemicals industry forecast further declined to 2.1% growth from 2.2% growth after the first half year in 2025, and from 2.9% at the beginning of this year. on the other hand their chemicals industry forecast further declined to 2.1% growth from 2.2% growth after the first half year in 2025 and from 2.9% at the beginning of this year This weakened market environment assumption in the U.S. and Europe in particular, aligns with our own experience and we therefore expect local currency sales growth to be at the lower end of the 1%-3% range for 2025. We expect slight local currency growth in care chemicals and in adsorbents and additives, with sales in catalysts expected to be slightly below those of 2024. We continue to expect to deliver an EBITDA margin before exceptional items of between 17% and 18%. This weakened market environment assumption in the U.S. and Europe in particular, aligns with our own experience and we therefore expect local currency sales growth to be at the lower end of the 1%- 3% range f or 2025. W e expect slight local currency growth in care chemicals and in adsorbents and additives, with sales in catalysts expected to be slightly below those of 2024. this weakened market environment assumption in the u.s and europe in particular aligns with our own experience and we therefore expect local currency sales growth to be at the lower end of the 1%- 3% range f or 2025. w e expect slight local currency growth in care chemicals and in adsorbents and additives with sales in catalysts expected to be slightly below those of 2024 We continue to expect to deliver an EBITDA margin before exceptional items of between 17% and 18%. we continue to expect to deliver an ebitda margin before exceptional items of between 17% and 18% The continued profitability improvement in prior years and in the first nine months of this year, shows the effectiveness of the structural changes we implemented under our performance improvement programs. We also aim to further improve cash conversion towards our 40% target. Despite these current impacts, we remain committed to delivering our medium-term targets, supported by the continued execution of our targeted initiatives. With that, I turn the call back over to you, Andreas. The continued profitability improvement in prior years and in the first nine months of this year, shows the effectiveness of the structural changes we implemented under our performance improvement programs. the continued profitability improvement in prior years and in the first nine months of this year shows the effectiveness of the structural changes we implemented under our performance improvement programs We also aim to further improve cash conversion towards our 40% target. we also aim to further improve cash conversion towards our 40% target Despite these current impacts, we remain committed to delivering our medium- term targets, supported by the continued execution of our targeted initiatives. despite these current impacts we remain committed to delivering our medium- term targets supported by the continued execution of our targeted initiatives With that, I turn the call back over to you, Andreas. with that i turn the call back over to you andreas

Speaker 1: Thank you, Conrad and Oliver. Ladies and gentlemen, we are now opening the floor for questions. To ensure everyone has a chance to participate, please ask no more than two questions per person. Thank you for your cooperation. Sandra, please go ahead. Thank you, Conrad and Oliver. thank you conrad and oliver Ladies and gentlemen, we are now opening the floor for questions. ladies and gentlemen we are now opening the floor for questions To ensure everyone has a chance to participate, p lease ask no more than two questions per person. to ensure everyone has a chance to participate, p lease ask no more than two questions per person Thank you for your cooperation. thank you for your cooperation Sandra, p lease go ahead. sandra, p lease go ahead

Speaker 11: We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your telephone. You will hear a tone to confirm that you have entered the queue. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Questioners on the phone are requested to disable the loudspeaker mode, and eventually turn off the volume of the webcast while asking a question. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. Our first question comes from Thea Badaro from BNP Exane. Please go ahead. We will now begin the question- and- answer session. we will now begin the question- and- answer session Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your telephone. anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your telephone You will hear a tone to confirm that you have entered the queue. you will hear a tone to confirm that you have entered the queue If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. if you wish to remove yourself from the question queue you may press star and two Questioners on the phone are requested to disable the loudspeaker mode, and eventually turn off the volume of the webcast while asking a question. questioners on the phone are requested to disable the loudspeaker mode and eventually turn off the volume of the webcast while asking a question Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time Our first question comes from Thea Badaro from BNP Exane. our first question comes from thea badaro from bnp exane Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 13: Hey. Good afternoon, both. Two questions for me, please. I'll start with the obvious one, you've clearly booked lower exceptional items in the quarter than most people expected. Are you still anticipating the full CHF 75 million to be booked this year, or do you maybe expect some of it to be pushed into next year? My second one is on CapEx. I've noticed that you're now guiding to CHF 180 million versus 10% higher in Q2, and 20% higher at the beginning of the year. Where is most of the cut coming from, and how should we think about it through to 2027? Thank you. Hey. hey Good afternoon, both. good afternoon both Two questions for me, please. two questions for me please I'll start with the obvious one, you've clearly booked lower exceptional items in the quarter than most people expected. i'll start with the obvious one you've clearly booked lower exceptional items in the quarter than most people expected Are you still anticipating the full CHF 75 million to be booked this year, or do you maybe expect some of it to be pushed into next year? are you still anticipating the full chf 75 million to be booked this year or do you maybe expect some of it to be pushed into next year My second one is on CapEx. my second one is on capex I've noticed that you're now guiding to CHF 180 million versus 10% higher in Q2, and 20% higher at the beginning of the year. i've noticed that you're now guiding to chf 180 million versus 10% higher in q2 and 20% higher at the beginning of the year Where is most of the cut coming from, and how should we think about it through to 2027? where is most of the cut coming from and how should we think about it through to 2027 Thank you. thank you

Speaker 5: Yeah, so I let Oliver comment on the one-offs, and I'm sure he also has some comments to be made on CapEx. Basically, if you look high level at CapEx, we're actually very pleased with, I think a structurally lower level of CapEx when you look at Clariant compared to historic levels. The key reason is that after the opening effect, the opening next week of our new chemicals plant, which was an $80 million investment in China and after the opening of the second line of the additives line in China, which was a $40 million investment, most of the gross CapEx is actually behind us. Yeah, so I let Oliver comment on the one- offs, and I'm sure he also has some comments to be made on CapEx. yeah so i let oliver comment on the one- offs and i'm sure he also has some comments to be made on capex Basically, if you look high level at CapEx, we're actually very pleased with, I think a structurally lower level of CapEx when you look at Clariant compared to historic levels. basically if you look high level at capex we're actually very pleased with i think a structurally lower level of capex when you look at clariant compared to historic levels The key reason is that after the opening effect, the opening next week of our new chemicals plant, which was an $80 million investment in China and after the opening of the second line of the additives line in China, which was a $40 million investment, most of the gross CapEx is actually behind us. the key reason is that after the opening effect the opening next week of our new chemicals plant which was an $80 million investment in china and after the opening of the second line of the additives line in china which was a $40 million investment most of the gross capex is actually behind us You see now a switch towards more maintenance-oriented CapEx. That is actually structural, because if you look at the capacities, we're actually quite happy now with the global footprint and we don't target any sort of new greenfield plants in the foreseeable future. Maybe Oliver can comment on one-offs in the quarter and moving forward, as well as maybe some more detailed comments if you have them on CapEx. You see now a switch towards more maintenance-oriented CapEx. T hat is actually structural, because if you look at the capacities, we're actually quite happy now with the global footprint and we don't target any sort of new greenfield plants in the foreseeable future. you see now a switch towards more maintenance-oriented capex. t hat is actually structural because if you look at the capacities we're actually quite happy now with the global footprint and we don't target any sort of new greenfield plants in the foreseeable future Maybe Oliver can comment on one- offs in the quarter and moving forward, as well as maybe some more detailed comments if you have them on CapEx. maybe oliver can comment on one- offs in the quarter and moving forward as well as maybe some more detailed comments if you have them on capex

Speaker 10: Sure. Hello to you. Yeah, I mean, you're right, we booked so far like CHF 63 million of one-offs year-to-date. Q3 was a bit of a smaller one with CHF 3 million, but we still foresee, as we communicated before, that we're going to hit the CHF 75 million for the full year and with that, obviously delivering on the CHF 80 million savings that we envisioned. As we said, CHF 31 million of that we have seen in the first nine months, and we still have the confidence that more than half of that will be delivered by the end of the year. Sure. Hello to you. sure. hello to you Yeah, I mean, you're right, we booked so far like CHF 63 million of one-offs year- to- date. sure. hello to you yeah i mean you're right we booked so far like chf 63 million of one-offs year- to- date Q3 was a bit of a smaller one with CHF 3 million, but we still foresee, as we communicated before, that we're going to hit the CHF 75 million for the full year and with that, obviously delivering on the CHF 80 million savings that we envisioned. q3 was a bit of a smaller one with chf 3 million but we still foresee as we communicated before that we're going to hit the chf 75 million for the full year and with that obviously delivering on the chf 80 million savings that we envisioned As we said, CHF 31 million of that we have seen in the first nine months, and we still have the confidence that more than half of that will be delivered by the end of the year. as we said, chf 31 million of that we have seen in the first nine months and we still have the confidence that more than half of that will be delivered by the end of the year Maybe one additional comment on CapEx. Yes, indeed the guidance that we have given with the CHF 180 million is now lower than what we have seen in previous years, and also beginning of the year. Additionally, to Conrad's comments, of course that is also a function of the business dynamics that we're seeing right now, and our commitment to deliver on our cash flow commitments that we have given with managing towards the 40% cash conversion that we have been communicating before. Maybe one additional comment on CapEx. maybe one additional comment on capex Yes, indeed the guidance that we have given with the CHF 180 million is now lower than what we have seen in previous years, and also beginning of the year. yes indeed the guidance that we have given with the chf 180 million is now lower than what we have seen in previous years and also beginning of the year Additionally, to Conrad's comments, of course that is also a function of the business dynamics that we're seeing right now, and our commitment to deliver on our cash flow commitments that we have given with managing towards the 40% cash conversion that we have been communicating before. additionally to conrad's comments of course that is also a function of the business dynamics that we're seeing right now and our commitment to deliver on our cash flow commitments that we have given with managing towards the 40% cash conversion that we have been communicating before

Speaker 13: Great, thank you, and nice to meet you, Oliver. Great, thank you, and nice to meet you, Oliver. great thank you and nice to meet you oliver

Speaker 9: Nice to meet you, Thea. Nice to meet you, Thea. nice to meet you thea

Speaker 11: The next question comes from Katie Richards from Barclays. Please go ahead. The next question comes from Katie Richards from Barclays. the next question comes from katie richards from barclays Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 8: Hi Conrad, Oliver and Andreas, Thank you for taking my questions. I've got one on care chemicals please, and then one on adsorbents and additives, if I may. On care chemicals, could you just talk us through the margin bridge piece? If I take the 1% raw materials decline and higher energy costs, this looks to have been a slight tailwind for the quarter, maybe about CHF 1 million. Obviously we have CHF 5 million outback, I think from the inventory revaluation of Lucas Meyer occurring this quarter. Taking into account the volume headwind, it looks like the positive mix effect or the cost savings coming through must have been pretty significant this quarter. Just any color on the bridge here, and how significant the positive mix effect would have been outside of Lucas Meyer? Hi Conrad, Oliver and Andreas, T hank you for taking my questions. hi conrad oliver and andreas, t hank you for taking my questions I've got one on care chemicals please, and then one on adsorbents and additives, if I may. i've got one on care chemicals please and then one on adsorbents and additives if i may On care chemicals, could you just talk us through the margin bridge piece? on care chemicals could you just talk us through the margin bridge piece If I take the 1% raw materials decline and higher energy costs, this looks to have been a slight tailwind for the quarter, maybe about CHF 1 million. O bviously we have CHF 5 million outback, I think from the inventory revaluation of Lucas Meyer occurring this quarter. if i take the 1% raw materials decline and higher energy costs this looks to have been a slight tailwind for the quarter maybe about chf 1 million. o bviously we have chf 5 million outback i think from the inventory revaluation of lucas meyer occurring this quarter Taking into account the volume headwind, it looks like the positive mix effect or the cost savings coming through must have been pretty significant this quarter. taking into account the volume headwind it looks like the positive mix effect or the cost savings coming through must have been pretty significant this quarter Just any color on the bridge here, and how significant the positive mix effect would have been outside of Lucas Meyer? just any color on the bridge here and how significant the positive mix effect would have been outside of lucas meyer On adsorbents and additives, I was quite intrigued by your comments that the Americas decreased at high single-digit percentage rates, driven by adsorbents, with volumes impacted by the U.S. Renewable Fuels regulation. I was of the understanding that the EPA was increasing the blending, and this would be a benefit for Clariant. Can you explain what's going on here? Is it just full utilization or regulatory uncertainty? O n adsorbents and additives, I was quite intrigued by your comments that the Americas decreased at high single-digit percentage rates, driven by adsorbents, with volumes impacted by the U.S. o n adsorbents and additives i was quite intrigued by your comments that the americas decreased at high single-digit percentage rates driven by adsorbents with volumes impacted by the u.s Renewable Fuels regulation. renewable fuels regulation I was of the understanding that the EPA was increasing the blending, and this would be a benefit for Clariant. i was of the understanding that the epa was increasing the blending and this would be a benefit for clariant Can you explain what's going on here? can you explain what's going on here Is it just full utilization or regulatory uncertainty? is it just full utilization or regulatory uncertainty

Speaker 5: Okay, Katie. Yes, thank you for those questions. I'll make some high-level comments on margins on chemicals, but let Oliver also provide here some additional details. I also will comment on the adsorbents slow demand right now in the U.S. First of all, on chemicals, we were extremely pleased actually with the step up in EBITDA margin, from basically before exceptional items from 17.4% last year to 18.9%. Okay, Katie. Y es, thank you for those questions. okay katie. y es thank you for those questions I'll make some high- level comments on margins on chemicals, but let Oliver also provide here some additional details. i'll make some high- level comments on margins on chemicals but let oliver also provide here some additional details I also will comment on the adsorbents sl ow d emand right now in the U.S. i also will comment on the adsorbents sl ow d emand right now in the u.s First of all, on chemicals, we were extremely pleased actually with the step up in EBITDA margin, from basically before exceptional items from 17.4% last year to 18.9%. first of all on chemicals we were extremely pleased actually with the step up in ebitda margin from basically before exceptional items from 17.4% last year to 18.9% That is a combination of a high level of pricing, where actually we've been able to hold prices in an environment where raw materials went actually down by 1%. That is very consistent with our strategy. We are seeing some competitors sort of going out for volume, but we are actually able to hold prices in an environment where there's weak demand. I think that's a testimony to the strengths of our products, but also I think a big compliment to our frontline sales leaders. Positive effect from pricing on margins. That is a combination of a high level of pricing, where actually we've been able to hold prices in an environment where raw materials went actually down by 1%. that is a combination of a high level of pricing where actually we've been able to hold prices in an environment where raw materials went actually down by 1% That is very consistent with our strategy. that is very consistent with our strategy We are seeing some competitors sort of going out for volume, but we are actually able to hold prices in an environment where there's weak demand. we are seeing some competitors sort of going out for volume but we are actually able to hold prices in an environment where there's weak demand I think that's a testimony to the strengths of our products, but also I think a big compliment to our frontline sales leaders. i think that's a testimony to the strengths of our products but also i think a big compliment to our frontline sales leaders Positive effect from pricing on margins. positive effect from pricing on margins Positive effect from mix, where you see weakness in the sort of lower margin segments like industrial applications and base chemicals, and finally performance improvement programs that are contributing here. Adsorbents, the weakness in renewables in the U.S., yeah, there is clearly a weakness right now if you look at basically biodiesel where we do the purification with our adsorbents. Also, SAF, where we do the purification, there were incentive packages that temporarily were taken away by the new Trump administration. Under the new big and beautiful tax bill, there are actually incentives again. The challenge here is that these still need to be approved by Congress, and the current shutdown of the government hasn't helped here. It is not a structurally lower gross market, but there is a temporary weakness in markets for biodiesel and SAF. We expect this to pick up actually early next year. Positive effect from mix, where you see weakness in the sort of lower margin segments like industrial applications and base chemicals, and finally performance improvement programs that are contributing here. positive effect from mix where you see weakness in the sort of lower margin segments like industrial applications and base chemicals and finally performance improvement programs that are contributing here Adsorbents, the weakness in renewables in the U.S., yeah, there is clearly a weakness right now if you look at basically biodiesel where we do the purification with our adsorbents. adsorbents the weakness in renewables in the u.s yeah there is clearly a weakness right now if you look at basically biodiesel where we do the purification with our adsorbents Also, SAF, where we do the purification, there were incentive packages that temporarily were taken away by the new Trump administration. also saf where we do the purification there were incentive packages that temporarily were taken away by the new trump administration Under the new big and beautiful tax bill, there are actually incentives again. under the new big and beautiful tax bill there are actually incentives again The challenge here is that these still need to be approved by Congress, and the current shutdown of the government hasn't helped here. the challenge here is that these still need to be approved by congress and the current shutdown of the government hasn't helped here It is not a structurally lower gross market, but there is a temporary weakness in markets for biodiesel and SAF. it is not a structurally lower gross market but there is a temporary weakness in markets for biodiesel and saf We expect this to pick up actually early next year. we expect this to pick up actually early next year

Speaker 8: Thank you. Just one follow-up because you mentioned people going for volume. Some of your competitors have commented on increased agent competition, particularly in [crosstalk]. Do you think you are making volume concessions to protect margins here? Thank you. thank you Just one follow-up because you mentioned people going for volume. just one follow-up because you mentioned people going for volume Some of your competitors have commented on increased agent competition, particularly in [crosstalk] . some of your competitors have commented on increased agent competition particularly in [crosstalk] Do you think you are making volume concessions to protect margins here? do you think you are making volume concessions to protect margins here

Speaker 6: No, we're not making any concessions. We just are basically holding price. There's no need for us to lower the price on products that are differentiated enough that they add a lot of value to our customers. That's one effect. I think the other effect is the continued repositioning towards more premium, more specialty, more consumer-facing segments in care chemicals. No, we're not making any concessions. no we're not making any concessions We just are basically holding price. we just are basically holding price There's no need for us to lower the price on products that are differentiated enough that they add a lot of value to our customers. there's no need for us to lower the price on products that are differentiated enough that they add a lot of value to our customers That's one effect. that's one effect I think the other effect is the continued repositioning towards more premium, more specialty, more consumer- facing segments in care chemicals. i think the other effect is the continued repositioning towards more premium more specialty more consumer- facing segments in care chemicals

Speaker 8: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 11: The next question comes from Christian Faitz from Kepler [Capital]. Please go ahead. The next question comes from Christian Faitz from Kepler [Capital]. the next question comes from christian faitz from kepler [capital] Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 4: Yes. Good afternoon, everyone. Two questions, please from my side. In your catalysts business, is there any visibility into 2026, i.e., customers flagging, for example, that mothballed plants might be back and might need a catalyst refill? The second question is actually on Lucas Meyer. I noticed that this business continues to contribute nicely to the profit development of your care chemicals business. Can you please elucidate a bit if the business kept its high operating margins when it entered Clariant? I believe it was actually in the higher 40% EBITDA, or is consumer hesitancy also impacting the Lucas Meyer business a bit? Thanks. Yes. G ood afternoon, everyone. yes. g ood afternoon everyone Two questions, please f rom my side. I n your catalysts business, is there any visibility into 2026, i.e., customers flagging, for example, that mothballed plants might be back and might need a catalyst refill? two questions please f rom my side. i n your catalysts business is there any visibility into 2026 i.e customers flagging for example that mothballed plants might be back and might need a catalyst refill The second question is actually on Lucas Meyer . the second question is actually on lucas meyer I noticed that this business continues to contribute nicely to the profit development of your care chemicals business. i noticed that this business continues to contribute nicely to the profit development of your care chemicals business Can you please elucidate a bit if the business kept its high operating margins when it entered Clariant? can you please elucidate a bit if the business kept its high operating margins when it entered clariant I believe it was actually in the higher 40% EBITDA, o r is consumer hesitancy also impacting the Lucas Meyer business a bit? i believe it was actually in the higher 40% ebitda, o r is consumer hesitancy also impacting the lucas meyer business a bit Thanks. thanks

Speaker 5: Yeah. Thank you very much, Christian for these two questions. First of all, we're not giving an outlook yet for next year 2026 nor for catalysts, but maybe I can reference some of the industry data, where basically if you look at chemical production volumes this year, we're heading for, let's say, a 2.5% growth overall globally in chemical production. That is actually a mix between flat growth in Europe, slightly up in the U.S., and let's say around a 5% growth in China. If you look however, for next year, there is an anticipation of further slowing down in chemical production growth. If you look at next year, the industry outlooks are more like a 1.5% growth for chemical production globally, which basically is an outlook that's based on again flat production volumes in Europe, volumes turning slightly negative actually in the U.S. next year as a result of tariffs. Yeah. Thank you very much, Christian for these two questions. yeah. thank you very much christian for these two questions First of all, we're not giving an outlook yet for next year 2026 nor for catalysts, but maybe I can reference some of the industry data, where basically if you look at chemical production volumes this year, we're heading for, let's say, a 2.5% growth overall globally in chemical production. first of all we're not giving an outlook yet for next year 2026 nor for catalysts but maybe i can reference some of the industry data where basically if you look at chemical production volumes this year we're heading for let's say a 2.5% growth overall globally in chemical production That is actually a mix between flat growth in Europe, slightly up in the U.S., and let's say around a 5% growth in China. that is actually a mix between flat growth in europe slightly up in the u.s and let's say around a 5% growth in china If you look however, for next year, there is an anticipation of further slowing down in chemical production growth. if you look however for next year there is an anticipation of further slowing down in chemical production growth If you look at next year, the industry outlooks are more like a 1.5% growth for chemical production globally, which basically is an outlook that's based on again flat production volumes in Europe, volumes turning slightly negative actually in the U.S. next year as a result of tariffs. if you look at next year the industry outlooks are more like a 1.5% growth for chemical production globally which basically is an outlook that's based on again flat production volumes in europe volumes turning slightly negative actually in the u.s next year as a result of tariffs People expect a further slowdown in China from currently, let's say % growth to very low single-digit growth. In terms of bottoming out, we're certainly not bottoming out this year for our catalysts business as you've seen in our numbers. We think though that next year with these outlooks, that is actually a bottom. On a positive note, in 2027, you should see a recovery actually. This is for all of our businesses, a positive. At some point in time, consumers will start to buy durable and semi-durable goods again. People will start to buy new furniture, new electronics products, et cetera. That means a recovery will come in chemicals, but it's delayed. Finally, on Lucas Meyer, we're very pleased with the performance inside Clariant and I can confirm that margins still are, let's say mid to high 40s in terms of EBITDA. People expect a further slowdown in China from currently, let's say % growth to very low single-digit growth. people expect a further slowdown in china from currently let's say % growth to very low single-digit growth In terms of bottoming out, we're certainly not bottoming out this year for our catalysts business as you've seen in our numbers. in terms of bottoming out we're certainly not bottoming out this year for our catalysts business as you've seen in our numbers We think though that next year with these outlooks, that is actually a bottom. O n a positive note, in 2027, you should see a recovery actually. we think though that next year with these outlooks that is actually a bottom. o n a positive note in 2027 you should see a recovery actually This is for all of our businesses, a positive. this is for all of our businesses a positive At some point in time, consumers will start to buy durable and semi-durable goods again. at some point in time consumers will start to buy durable and semi-durable goods again People will start to buy new furniture, new electronics products, et cetera. people will start to buy new furniture new electronics products et cetera That means a recovery will come in chemicals, but it's delayed. that means a recovery will come in chemicals but it's delayed Finally, on Lucas Meyer, we're very pleased with the performance inside Clariant and I can confirm that margins still are, let's say mid to high 40s in terms of EBITDA. finally on lucas meyer we're very pleased with the performance inside clariant and i can confirm that margins still are let's say mid to high 40s in terms of ebitda

Speaker 4: Thanks very much. Thanks very much. thanks very much

Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 11: The next question comes from Christian Bell from UBS. Please go ahead. The next question comes from Christian Bell from UBS. the next question comes from christian bell from ubs Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 3: Yes. Hello, and well done on the result. I just have two questions. My first question relates to your guidance, which I think I'll ask in two parts, if I can. Part A to that, to meet your sales guidance, you'll need about 5% organic growth in Q4 to offset foreign exchange of about -5% and that's coming off organic growth of -3% in the quarter [just been]. I'm just curious, where is that strength coming from by segment? Yes. H ello, and well done on the result. yes. h ello and well done on the result I just have two questions. i just have two questions My first question relates to your guidance, which I think I'll ask in two parts, if I can. my first question relates to your guidance which i think i'll ask in two parts if i can Part A to that, to meet your sales guidance, you'll need about 5% organic growth in Q4 to offset foreign exchange of about - 5% and that's coming off organic growth of - 3% in the quarter [just been]. part a to that to meet your sales guidance you'll need about 5% organic growth in q4 to offset foreign exchange of about - 5% and that's coming off organic growth of - 3% in the quarter [just been] I'm just curious, where is that strength coming from b y segment ? i'm just curious where is that strength coming from b y segment It looks like you'll need a big fourth quarter for both care and catalysts. Is that market-driven? Keeping in mind you've already indicated that that doesn't seem likely, is it sort of specific projects? Part B to that question is, after narrowing your sales guidance, you've left Q4 EBITDA margin range quite wide by my estimate, sort of 14%-18%. What's behind that variability? I'll wait to ask my second question. I t looks like you'll need a big fourth quarter for both care and catalysts. i t looks like you'll need a big fourth quarter for both care and catalysts Is that market- driven? is that market- driven Keeping in mind you've already indicated that that doesn't seem likely, is it sort of specific projects? keeping in mind you've already indicated that that doesn't seem likely is it sort of specific projects Part B to that question is, after narrowing your sales guidance, you've left Q4 EBITDA margin range quite wide by my estimate, sort of 14%- 18%. part b to that question is after narrowing your sales guidance you've left q4 ebitda margin range quite wide by my estimate sort of 14%- 18% What's behind that variability? what's behind that variability I'll wait to ask my second question. i'll wait to ask my second question

Speaker 5: Yeah, Christian. The sound was not so great. Could you repeat high level the question in very crisp language because we couldn't hear it very well? Yeah, Christian. T he sound was not so great. yeah christian. t he sound was not so great Could you repeat high level the question in very crisp language because we couldn't hear it very well? could you repeat high level the question in very crisp language because we couldn't hear it very well

Speaker 3: Okay, yeah. It's about your guidance, what it implies for the fourth quarter, what you need to do to reach your guidance. On sales, it implies that you need to do about 5% organic growth. I'm wondering where that strength is coming from. It looks like you need to have big quarters from care chemicals and catalysts, which seems difficult in the current environment. Okay, y eah. okay, y eah It's about your guidance, what it implies for the fourth quarter, what you need to do to reach your guidance. O n sales, i t implies that you need to do about 5% organic growth. it's about your guidance what it implies for the fourth quarter what you need to do to reach your guidance. o n sales, i t implies that you need to do about 5% organic growth I'm wondering where that strength is coming from. i'm wondering where that strength is coming from It looks like you need to have big quarters from care chemicals and catalysts, which seems difficult in the current environment. it looks like you need to have big quarters from care chemicals and catalysts which seems difficult in the current environment

Speaker 5: Yeah, not clear. Now, let me comment on revenue, and I'll let Oliver comment on the profitability on the EBITDA guidance. If you look at revenue guidance, for us to land at the low end of the 1%-3% local currency growth, what we're guiding for, indeed, you're correct, we need a pickup in the final quarter, not only sequentially, but also relative to prior year. Where we see mainly that happening is in care chemicals, where we actually had last year an unusually weak season for de-icing, that was entirely weather-related. Yeah, not clear. yeah not clear Now, let me comment on revenue, and I'll let Oliver comment on the profitability on the EBITDA guidance. now let me comment on revenue and i'll let oliver comment on the profitability on the ebitda guidance If you look at revenue guidance, for us to land at the low end of the 1%- 3% local currency growth, what we're guiding for, i ndeed, you're correct, w e need a pickup in the final quarter, not only sequentially, but also relative to prior year. if you look at revenue guidance for us to land at the low end of the 1%- 3% local currency growth what we're guiding for, i ndeed you're correct, w e need a pickup in the final quarter not only sequentially but also relative to prior year Where we see mainly that happening is in care chemicals, where we actually had last year an unusually weak season for de-icing, that was entirely weather- related. where we see mainly that happening is in care chemicals where we actually had last year an unusually weak season for de-icing that was entirely weather- related This year, based on a normalized sort of pattern in terms of the weather, we should see a big pickup in care chemicals relative to prior year and also sequentially. On top of that, we actually see a strong pipeline in mining. You see that in our numbers, our Q3 numbers as well as in oil services. Both of these increases in Q3 were market share related, which should continue as a positive momentum in fourth quarter. Finally, the Lucas Meyer business continues to do well both in terms of revenue and margins. This year, based on a normalized sort of pattern in terms of the weather, we should see a big pickup in care chemicals relative to prior year and a lso sequentially. O n top of that, we actually see a strong pipeline in mining. this year based on a normalized sort of pattern in terms of the weather we should see a big pickup in care chemicals relative to prior year and a lso sequentially. o n top of that we actually see a strong pipeline in mining You see that in our numbers, our Q3 numbers as well as in oil services. you see that in our numbers our q3 numbers as well as in oil services Both of these increases in Q3 were market share related, which should continue as a positive momentum in fourth quarter. both of these increases in q3 were market share related which should continue as a positive momentum in fourth quarter Finally, the Lucas Meyer business continues to do well both in terms of revenue and margins. finally the lucas meyer business continues to do well both in terms of revenue and margins Catalysts is against a very strong Q4 last year. Based on the order book, we expect a solid quarter in catalysts both for PDH propane to propylene orders in the book from China again, as well as for ethylene. Finally, adsorbents and additives is slowing as mentioned, but we expect the pattern to continue consistent with prior quarters. All in all, we do indeed expect a pickup from prior year, which should land us somewhere close to the bottom end of this guidance range. Maybe Oliver, some comments on EBITDA margins. Catalysts is against a very strong Q4 last year. catalysts is against a very strong q4 last year Based on the order book, we expect a solid quarter in catalysts both for PDH propane to propylene orders in the book from China again, as well as for ethylene. based on the order book we expect a solid quarter in catalysts both for pdh propane to propylene orders in the book from china again as well as for ethylene Finally, adsorbents and additives is slowing as mentioned, but we expect the pattern to continue consistent with prior quarters. finally adsorbents and additives is slowing as mentioned but we expect the pattern to continue consistent with prior quarters All in all, we do indeed expect a pickup from prior year, which should land us somewhere close to the bottom end of this guidance range. all in all we do indeed expect a pickup from prior year which should land us somewhere close to the bottom end of this guidance range Maybe Oliver, some comments on EBITDA margins. maybe oliver some comments on ebitda margins

Speaker 9: Yeah. Hi, Christian. Maybe one addition to the top line, which also explains a little bit the bottom line performance, you have seen the catalyst volume decline of 8% in Q3. There was indeed a bit of a move from some of the orders from Q3 into Q4. This is why you see a softer Q3 in catalysts. Obviously, that will be part of that driver for the Q4 performance that we are expecting. With that, based on the top-line picture that Conrad was painting here, the growth in catalysts and the growth in care chemicals is going to drive margins in the fourth quarter. Yeah. H i, Christian. yeah. h i christian Maybe one addition to the top line, which also explains a little bit the bottom line performance, yo u have seen the catalyst volume decline of 8% in Q3. maybe one addition to the top line which also explains a little bit the bottom line performance, yo u have seen the catalyst volume decline of 8% in q3 There was indeed a bit of a move from some of the orders from Q3 into Q4. there was indeed a bit of a move from some of the orders from q3 into q4 This is why you see a softer Q3 in catalysts. this is why you see a softer q3 in catalysts Obviously, that will be part of that driver for the Q4 performance that we are expecting. obviously, that will be part of that driver for the q4 performance that we are expecting With that, based on the top- line picture that Conrad was painting here, the growth in catalysts and the growth in care chemicals is going to drive margins in the fourth quarter. with that based on the top- line picture that conrad was painting here the growth in catalysts and the growth in care chemicals is going to drive margins in the fourth quarter We have two counter effects. One is that we slow down on production in additives and adsorbents, as a measure also of optimizing our net working capital and staying committed on the cash flow performance. The second one is the corporate cost phasing that we were mentioning in Q3, which is a different phasing of incentive provisions this year versus previous year. You see those costs coming back in Q4 then. That's going to drive the margin performance. We expect obviously to land in the margin in the guidance range that we have provided. We have two counter effects. we have two counter effects One is that we slow down on production in additives and adsorbents, as a measure also of optimizing our net working capital and staying committed on the cash flow performance. one is that we slow down on production in additives and adsorbents as a measure also of optimizing our net working capital and staying committed on the cash flow performance The second one is the corporate cost phasing that we were mentioning in Q3, which is a different phasing of incentive provisions this year versus previous year. the second one is the corporate cost phasing that we were mentioning in q3 which is a different phasing of incentive provisions this year versus previous year You see those costs coming back in Q4 then. you see those costs coming back in q4 then That' s going to drive the margin performance. that' s going to drive the margin performance We expect obviously to land in the margin in the guidance range that we have provided. we expect obviously to land in the margin in the guidance range that we have provided

Speaker 3: I think my question was slightly more simple in a way, in that how come you have narrowed your sales guidance but you haven't sort of narrowed your margin guidance for the fourth quarter? Why is the sort of margin guidance so wide in the fourth quarter alone? I think my question was slightly more simple in a way, in that how come you have narrowed your sales guidance but you haven't sort of narrowed your margin guidance for the fourth quarter? i think my question was slightly more simple in a way in that how come you have narrowed your sales guidance but you haven't sort of narrowed your margin guidance for the fourth quarter Why is the sort of margin guidance so wide in the fourth quarter alone? why is the sort of margin guidance so wide in the fourth quarter alone

Speaker 9: We haven't really adjusted our guidance overall, as you know. The sales guidance is since second-quarter, the 1%-3% and the margin guidance is also still 17%-18%. We didn't adjust any of the guidance ranges. There's no particular reason behind that. We haven't really adjusted our guidance overall, as you know. we haven't really adjusted our guidance overall as you know The sales guidance is since second- quarter, the 1%- 3% and the margin guidance is also still 17%- 18%. the sales guidance is since second- quarter the 1%- 3% and the margin guidance is also still 17%- 18% We didn't adjust any of the guidance ranges. we didn't adjust any of the guidance ranges There's no particular reason behind that. there's no particular reason behind that

Speaker 3: Okay, cool. Sorry, if I could just squeeze in my second question. I think that sort of follows on from one of the previous ones. Some of the commentary from your peers in key chemical segment, just curious, is that sort of increased competition from Chinese players a more recent development, and how do you sort of see that dynamic evolving in the near to medium term? Okay, cool. okay cool Sorry, if I could just squeeze in my second question. sorry if i could just squeeze in my second question I think that sort of follows on from one of the previous ones. i think that sort of follows on from one of the previous ones Some of the commentary from your peers in key chemical segment, just curious, is that sort of increased competition from Chinese players a more recent development, and how do you sort of see that dynamic evolving in the near to medium term? some of the commentary from your peers in key chemical segment just curious is that sort of increased competition from chinese players a more recent development and how do you sort of see that dynamic evolving in the near to medium term

Speaker 5: Yeah. Increasing competition from Chinese players, we are actually seeing little of that in our segments. Catalysts is a true specialty business which requires a lot of IP and technology. We see very limited competition there from Chinese players. In chemicals, certainly the segments where we are playing, we also see very limited competition. Where we are seeing actually quite some activity is in the additives area. That is actually for local players, for example, for UV stabilizers, but even some local players for flame retardants. Yeah. I ncreasing competition from Chinese players, w e are actually seeing little of that in our segments. yeah. i ncreasing competition from chinese players, w e are actually seeing little of that in our segments Catalysts is a true specialty business which requires a lot of IP and technology. catalysts is a true specialty business which requires a lot of ip and technology We see very limited competition there from Chinese players. we see very limited competition there from chinese players In chemicals, c ertainly the segments where we are playing, we also see very limited competition. in chemicals, c ertainly the segments where we are playing we also see very limited competition Where we are seeing actually quite some activity is in the additives area. where we are seeing actually quite some activity is in the additives area That is actually for local players, for example, for UV stabilizers, but even some local players for flame retardants. that is actually for local players for example for uv stabilizers but even some local players for flame retardants Now, some of these are frankly the so-called copycats that are infringing our IP, and we're going obviously against that. We are well-positioned with local manufacturing for flame retardants there. One of the things that we did see was for the UV stabilizers, that we were no longer competitive with the plants out of Muttenz in Switzerland. This is actually part of the recent restructuring line, that we will actually transfer that production from Switzerland to India, to become more competitive for these UV stabilizers. In all of these segments, we have differentiated technology, but local manufacturing in China has become really a prerequisite to be competitive. Now, some of these are frankly the so-called copycats that are infringing our IP, and we're going obviously against that. now, some of these are frankly the so-called copycats that are infringing our ip and we're going obviously against that We are well- positioned with local manufacturing for flame retardants there. we are well- positioned with local manufacturing for flame retardants there One of the things that we did see was for the UV stabilizers, that we were no longer competitive with the plants out of Muttenz in Switzerland. one of the things that we did see was for the uv stabilizers that we were no longer competitive with the plants out of muttenz in switzerland This is actually part of the recent restructuring line, that we will actually transfer that production from Switzerland to India, to become more competitive for these UV stabilizers. this is actually part of the recent restructuring line that we will actually transfer that production from switzerland to india to become more competitive for these uv stabilizers In all of these segments, we have differentiated technology, but local manufacturing in China has become really a prerequisite to be competitive. in all of these segments we have differentiated technology but local manufacturing in china has become really a prerequisite to be competitive

Speaker 3: All right, thank you for answering my question. All right, thank you for answering my question. all right thank you for answering my question

Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 11: The next question comes from James Hooper from Bernstein. Please go ahead. The next question comes from James Hooper from Bernstein. the next question comes from james hooper from bernstein Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 7: Hi, good afternoon. Thank you very much for taking my questions. The first one's around the board changes. Can you give us a little bit more background on why you wanted to cut the numbers on the board? Also, a little bit more on what you're looking for from the new board members, and what you're expecting the board to do. Hi, good afternoon. hi good afternoon Thank you very much for taking my questions. thank you very much for taking my questions The first one's around the board changes. the first one's around the board changes Can you give us a little bit more background on why you wanted to cut the numbers on the board? can you give us a little bit more background on why you wanted to cut the numbers on the board Also, a little bit more on what you're looking for from the new board members, and what you're expecting the board to do. also a little bit more on what you're looking for from the new board members and what you're expecting the board to do The second one's a little bit about capital allocation. I think it was referenced earlier in the CapEx question that you've been taking CapEx down a little bit in order to protect cash flows. Given the low growth environment we find ourselves in, and particularly 2026, not a high year for chemical production. Is there an extent that you need to trade off your kind of 2027 medium-term targets? You're making great progress on the margins, but are you going to have to choose a little bit between making growth investments in this macro environment or protecting cash flows? Thanks very much. The second one's a little bit about capital allocation. the second one's a little bit about capital allocation I think it was referenced earlier in the CapEx question that you've been taking CapEx down a little bit in order to protect cash flows. i think it was referenced earlier in the capex question that you've been taking capex down a little bit in order to protect cash flows Given the low growth environment we find ourselves in, and particularly 2026, not a high yea r for chemical production. I s there an extent that you need to trade off your kind of 2027 medium- term targets? given the low growth environment we find ourselves in and particularly 2026 not a high yea r for chemical production. i s there an extent that you need to trade off your kind of 2027 medium- term targets You're making great progress on the margins, but are you going to have to choose a little bit between making growth investments in this macro environment or protecting cash flows? you're making great progress on the margins but are you going to have to choose a little bit between making growth investments in this macro environment or protecting cash flows Thanks very much. thanks very much

Speaker 5: Yeah. Thank you very much, James. I'll take the first question on the board changes, and then Oliver will make some comments on capital allocation and CapEx specifically. If you look at the board changes, what we have done recently over the years in the company is actually to right-size the company in terms of delayering, in terms of taking out duplication. In management, we used to have this decision making matrix with functional directors, country directors, BU directors. We basically implement four P&Ls and three business units. The board basically in size has not adjusted. The consistent feedback from proxy advisors recently has been that they perceive the board of Clariant, I should say, as too large. Feedback from proxy advisors also has been that on gender diversity, we are currently not meeting the 30% target for a minimum representation of females on the board. Yeah. T hank you very much, James. yeah. t hank you very much james I'll take the first question on the board changes, and then Oliver will make some comments on capital allocation and CapEx specifically. i'll take the first question on the board changes and then oliver will make some comments on capital allocation and capex specifically If you look at the board changes, what we have done recently over the years in the company is actually to right- size the company in terms of delayering, in terms of taking out duplication. if you look at the board changes what we have done recently over the years in the company is actually to right- size the company in terms of delayering in terms of taking out duplication In management, we used to have this decision making matrix with functional directors, country directors, BU directors. in management we used to have this decision making matrix with functional directors country directors bu directors We basically implement four P&Ls and three business units. we basically implement four p&ls and three business units The board basically in size has not adjusted. the board basically in size has not adjusted The consistent feedback from proxy advisors recently has been that they perceive the board of Clariant, I should say, as too large. the consistent feedback from proxy advisors recently has been that they perceive the board of clariant i should say as too large Feedback from proxy advisors also has been that on gender diversity, we are currently not meeting the 30% target for a minimum representation of females on the board. feedback from proxy advisors also has been that on gender diversity we are currently not meeting the 30% target for a minimum representation of females on the board Finally, in terms of independent board members, some of our board members had a tenure above 12 year, and then they are no longer seen as independent. It is these three elements that consistently have been brought up by the proxy advisors, the size of the board, the diversity of the board, the independence of the board, that actually are now being addressed, with the reduction of the board to eight and by bringing in two new independent outside board members. It's not that we're lacking certain expertise to your question, it's really very much building on the feedback by proxy advisors. Finally, in terms of independent board members, some of our board members had a tenure above 12 year, and then they are no longer seen as independent. finally in terms of independent board members some of our board members had a tenure above 12 year and then they are no longer seen as independent It is these three elements that consistently have been brought up by the proxy advisors, the size of the board, the diversity of the board, the independence of the board, that actually are now being addressed, with the reduction of the board to eight and by bringing in two new independent outside board members. it is these three elements that consistently have been brought up by the proxy advisors the size of the board the diversity of the board the independence of the board that actually are now being addressed with the reduction of the board to eight and by bringing in two new independent outside board members It's not that we're lacking certain expertise to your question, it's really very much building on the feedback by proxy advisors. it's not that we're lacking certain expertise to your question it's really very much building on the feedback by proxy advisors

Speaker 9: Okay. Hi, James. On your capital allocation question, and without maybe hitting too much on the 2027, because as we said before, we were not looking at specific numbers now for 2027, but maybe more in general, how we will look at capital allocation, how we approach it is very much from focusing on a triangle of growth, margin, and cash. The decisions around capital allocation are pretty much balancing this off across the portfolio and the segments that we are having. Okay. Hi , James. okay. hi , james On your capital allocation question, and without maybe hitting too much on the 2027, because as we said before, we were not looking at specific numbers now for 2027, but maybe more in general, how we will look at capital allocation, how we approach it is very much from focusing on a triangle of growth, margin, and cash. on your capital allocation question and without maybe hitting too much on the 2027 because as we said before we were not looking at specific numbers now for 2027 but maybe more in general how we will look at capital allocation how we approach it is very much from focusing on a triangle of growth margin and cash The decisions around capital allocation are pretty much balancing this off across the portfolio and the segments that we are having. the decisions around capital allocation are pretty much balancing this off across the portfolio and the segments that we are having Capital allocation of course is the strategy that we're having here, is to fund innovation to drive the growth for the future and with that, also driving then obviously the cash generation of the company. In terms of capacity availability for a potential growth pickup in 2027, this is what the industry indicates at the moment. There's capacity available for us, so we are also well prepared for a potential pickup in that time window. Capital allocation of course is the strategy that we're having here, is to fund innovation to drive the growth for the future and with that, also driving then obviously the cash generation of the company. capital allocation of course is the strategy that we're having here, is to fund innovation to drive the growth for the future and with that also driving then obviously the cash generation of the company In terms of capacity availability for a potential growth pickup in 2027, this is what the industry indicates at the moment. in terms of capacity availability for a potential growth pickup in 2027 this is what the industry indicates at the moment There's capacity available for us, so we are also well prepared for a potential pickup in that time window. there's capacity available for us so we are also well prepared for a potential pickup in that time window

Speaker 11: The next question comes from Tristan Lamotte from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. The next question comes from Tristan Lamotte from Deutsche Bank. the next question comes from tristan lamotte from deutsche bank Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 14: Hi, thanks for taking my questions, a couple which are kind of linked and high level. In chemicals, I was wondering, is your view that something has changed structurally in Europe in H2 2025 or is this kind of a global and cyclical weakness? I'm just trying to figure out if this weak Q3 level is kind of the new run rate, or if there's something kind of exceptional in the H2 that will revert. The second part to that question is, I'm just wondering what your current views are on the levels of support that chemicals is getting in Europe and whether this needs to increase, and what practically could be done in that regard. It seems there's been a lot of discussion on what needs to happen, but the follow-through to this date has been quite limited. Thanks. Hi, thanks for taking my questions, a couple which are kind of linked and high level. hi thanks for taking my questions, a couple which are kind of linked and high level In chemicals, I was wondering, is your view that something has changed structurally in Europe in H2 2025 or is this kind of a global and cyclical weakness? in chemicals i was wondering is your view that something has changed structurally in europe in h2 2025 or is this kind of a global and cyclical weakness I'm just trying to figure out if this weak Q3 level is kind of the new run rate, or if there's something kind of exceptional in the H2 that will revert. i'm just trying to figure out if this weak q3 level is kind of the new run rate or if there's something kind of exceptional in the h2 that will revert The second part to that question is, I'm just wondering what your current views are on the levels of support that chemicals is getting in Europe and whether this needs to increase, and what practically could be done in that regard. the second part to that question is i'm just wondering what your current views are on the levels of support that chemicals is getting in europe and whether this needs to increase and what practically could be done in that regard It seems there's been a lot of discussion on what needs to happen, but the follow- through to this date has been quite limited. it seems there's been a lot of discussion on what needs to happen but the follow- through to this date has been quite limited Thanks. thanks

Speaker 5: Thank you, Tristan. As far as your question, what has changed, if anything structurally in H2? I think we need to take a look a little bit back further. What structurally changed for Europe is actually 2022, and we have no longer access to cheap piping gas from Russia. That is actually the reason that European production levels in chemicals in Europe are still about 20% below the last year before corona, whereas it has recovered basically in the U.S. and Asia, it's well ahead of pre-corona levels. This is the structural change. It is affecting primarily the chemical industry that is high energy intense, which we're clearly not. It is also affecting parts of the chemical industry that use gas as a footprint, as a feedstock, which we're also not. For us, we have a global footprint. We have 65% of our revenue outside Europe. Thank you, Tristan. thank you tristan As far as your question, what has changed, if anything structurally in H2? as far as your question what has changed if anything structurally in h2 I think we need to take a look a little bit back further. i think we need to take a look a little bit back further What structurally changed for Europe is actually 2022, and we have no longer access to cheap piping gas from Russia. what structurally changed for europe is actually 2022 and we have no longer access to cheap piping gas from russia That is actually the reason that European production levels in chemicals in Europe are still about 20% below the last year before corona, whereas it has recovered basically in the U.S. and Asia, it's well ahead of pre-corona levels. that is actually the reason that european production levels in chemicals in europe are still about 20% below the last year before corona whereas it has recovered basically in the u.s and asia it's well ahead of pre-corona levels This is the structural change. this is the structural change It is affecting primarily the chemical industry that is high energy intense, which we're clearly not. it is affecting primarily the chemical industry that is high energy intense which we're clearly not It is also affecting parts of the chemical industry that use gas as a footprint, as a feedstock, which we're also not. it is also affecting parts of the chemical industry that use gas as a footprint as a feedstock which we're also not For us, we have a global footprint. for us we have a global footprint We have 65% of our revenue outside Europe. we have 65% of our revenue outside europe What we see is a shift of some production and consumption away from Europe, but we pick that then up elsewhere. For us, this as being truly specialty is all manageable. It's fair to say that a good part of the industry is affected by this. To your change, what's Europe doing? I think there are some positive signs. We have first of all the Green Deal, which was primarily a package of legislation and commitments to carbon neutrality in 2050. What you now see is the new European Commission has this Clean Industrial Deal, which is much more focused on the competitiveness of the industry. Europe needs obviously a competitive industry to deliver the Green Deal. I think there are some positive signs here. In all fairness, there's still some ways to go. What we see is a shift of some production and consumption away from Europe, but we pick that then up elsewhere. what we see is a shift of some production and consumption away from europe but we pick that then up elsewhere For us, this as being truly specialty is all manageable. for us this as being truly specialty is all manageable It's fair to say that a good part of the industry is affected by this. it's fair to say that a good part of the industry is affected by this To your change, what's Europe doing? to your change what's europe doing I think there are some positive signs. i think there are some positive signs We have first of all the Green Deal, which was primarily a package of legislation and commitments to carbon neutrality i n 2050. W hat you now see is the new European Commission has this Clean Industrial Deal, which is much more focused on the competitiveness of the industry. we have first of all the green deal which was primarily a package of legislation and commitments to carbon neutrality i n 2050. w hat you now see is the new european commission has this clean industrial deal which is much more focused on the competitiveness of the industry Europe needs obviously a competitive industry to deliver the Green Deal. europe needs obviously a competitive industry to deliver the green deal I think there are some positive signs here. i think there are some positive signs here In all fairness, there's still some ways to go. in all fairness there's still some ways to go The carbon taxation is obviously something that at the time that this came up, was absolutely seen as the right instrument. There was however, the assumption that other regions in the world would follow. That's one thing. At the time, the industry was making money. I think two things have changed. The other regions have not followed with carbon taxation, and the industry right now is struggling to a large extent and can then itself much more difficult it is to fund this energy transition. I think this is on the radar for the European Commission. Still, some more work needs to be done here I think. The carbon taxation is obviously something that at the time that this came up, was absolutely seen as the right instrument. the carbon taxation is obviously something that at the time that this came up was absolutely seen as the right instrument There was however, the assumption that other regions in the world would follow. there was however the assumption that other regions in the world would follow That's one thing. that's one thing At the time, the industry was making money. at the time the industry was making money I think two things have changed. i think two things have changed The other regions have not followed with carbon taxation, and the industry right now is struggling to a large extent and can then itself much more difficult it is to fund this energy transition. the other regions have not followed with carbon taxation and the industry right now is struggling to a large extent and can then itself much more difficult it is to fund this energy transition I think this is on the radar for the European Commission. i think this is on the radar for the european commission Still, some more work needs to be done here I think. still some more work needs to be done here i think

Speaker 14: That's great. Thanks. That's great. that's great Thanks. thanks

Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 11: The last question is from Walter Bamert from Zürcher Kantonalbank. Please go ahead. The last question is from Walter Bamert from Zürcher Kantonalbank. the last question is from walter bamert from zürcher kantonalbank Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 15: Good afternoon. Thank you very much. The first question is regarding the board changes. There it is mentioned that the two new board members will be independent. Does this apply that these are not from SABIC, so the SABIC members will be reduced from four to two? Good afternoon. good afternoon Thank you very much. thank you very much The first question is regarding the board changes. the first question is regarding the board changes There it is mentioned that the two new board members will be independent. there it is mentioned that the two new board members will be independent Does this apply that these are not from SABIC, so t he SABIC members will be reduced from four to two? does this apply that these are not from sabic, so t he sabic members will be reduced from four to two

Speaker 5: Yeah. That's correct, Walter. The SABIC representatives have been reduced from four to two. I will also say that the German shareholders had representation of two board members, that also has been reduced from two to one. Indeed, the two new board members coming in from the outside will be independent board members. Yeah. T hat's correct, Walter. yeah. t hat's correct walter The SABIC representatives have been reduced from four to two. the sabic representatives have been reduced from four to two I will also say that the German shareholders had representation of two board members, that also has been reduced from two to one. i will also say that the german shareholders had representation of two board members that also has been reduced from two to one Indeed, the two new board members coming in from the outside will be independent board members. indeed the two new board members coming in from the outside will be independent board members

Speaker 15: Okay, then can you please help me with the headquarter cost which was very low in the third quarter? Should that be for the full second half be at the level of the previous year, so a reversal or is it rather that the fourth quarter only is at the previous year level? Okay, then can you please help me with the headquarter cost which was very low in the third quarter? okay then can you please help me with the headquarter cost which was very low in the third quarter Should that be for the full second half be at the level of the previous year, so a reversal or is it rather that the fourth quarter only is at the previous year level? should that be for the full second half be at the level of the previous year, so a reversal or is it rather that the fourth quarter only is at the previous year level

Speaker 9: Yeah. Walter, indeed, this is a phasing between the two quarters, Q3 and Q4, so that cost will come back in Q4. We have a bit of a different phasing of incentives provision from previous year to this year. Yeah. yeah Walter, indeed, this is a phasing between the two quarters, Q3 and Q4, so that cost will come back in Q4. walter indeed this is a phasing between the two quarters q3 and q4 so that cost will come back in q4 We have a bit of a different phasing of incentives provision from previous year to this year. we have a bit of a different phasing of incentives provision from previous year to this year

Speaker 15: Okay. I hope for you that the incentives will be at the same level as previous year. Okay, thank you very much. Okay. I hope for you that the incentives will be at the same level as previous year. okay. i hope for you that the incentives will be at the same level as previous year Okay, thank you very much. okay thank you very much

Speaker 9: Thank you, Walter. Thank you, Walter. thank you walter

Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 11: [crosstalk] [Ms. Klaatsova], your line is open. You may proceed with your question. [crosstalk] [Ms. [crosstalk] [ms Klaatsova], your line is open. klaatsova] your line is open You may proceed with your question. you may proceed with your question

Speaker 16: Hello, thank you for taking my last minute question. I think I just have one left at this stage. Could you comment in a bit more detail, what developments you are seeing in the crop solutions end market? You have mentioned somewhat softer performance in Q3, but in part due to stronger comparable. How do you see that developing maybe into next year? Again, some of your peers mentioned somewhat slowing momentum in the end market. Hello, thank you for taking my last minute question. hello thank you for taking my last minute question I think I just have one left at this stage. i think i just have one left at this stage Could you comment in a bit more detail, what developments you are seeing in the crop solutions end market? could you comment in a bit more detail what developments you are seeing in the crop solutions end market You have mentioned somewhat softer performance in Q3, but in part due to stronger comparable. you have mentioned somewhat softer performance in q3 but in part due to stronger comparable How do you see that developing maybe into next year? how do you see that developing maybe into next year A gain, some of your peers mentioned somewhat slowing momentum in the end market. a gain some of your peers mentioned somewhat slowing momentum in the end market

Speaker 5: Yeah. In terms of crop, Angelina, we basically compare against a much weaker prior year where there was still destocking. For the full year, we still see high single-digit growth in crop protection. In the third quarter, we basically had sort of low single-digit negative in crop solutions. That was against actually a strong sort of restocking quarter last year. Underlying, we see good demand. There's nothing here to worry. We actually think for the year, we will end up high single digits. It's actually a strong segment for us. Yeah. yeah In terms of crop, Angelina, we basically compare against a much weaker prior year where there was still destocking. in terms of crop angelina we basically compare against a much weaker prior year where there was still destocking For the full year, we still see high single-digit growth in crop protection. for the full year we still see high single-digit growth in crop protection I n the third quarter, we basically had sort of low single-digit negative in crop solutions. i n the third quarter we basically had sort of low single-digit negative in crop solutions That was against actually a strong sort of restocking quarter last year. that was against actually a strong sort of restocking quarter last year Underlying, we see good demand. underlying we see good demand There's nothing here to worry. there's nothing here to worry We actually think for the year, we will end up high single digits. we actually think for the year we will end up high single digits It's actually a strong segment for us. it's actually a strong segment for us

Speaker 16: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 11: We have a question from Ranulf Orr from Citi. Please go ahead. We have a question from Ranulf Orr from Citi. we have a question from ranulf orr from citi Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 12: Hi, thanks for taking the question. I'm just wondering about how you view Clariant's portfolio overall as a kind of combination of fairly discrete businesses, and in the context of another weak year in 2026 and frankly, who knows? For 2027, I mean, is now maybe the time to start thinking about whether there's value to be had in breaking Clariant up or doing asset swaps to improve your scale in some of the businesses, and make the individual units more competitive on a global scale.? Thank you. Hi, thanks for taking the question. hi thanks for taking the question I'm just wondering about how you view Clariant's portfolio overall as a kind of combination of fairly discrete businesses, and in the context of another weak year in 2026 and frankly, who knows? F or 2027, I mean, is now maybe the time to start thinking about whether there's value to be had in breaking Clariant up or doing asset swaps to improve your scale in some of the businesses, and make the individual units more competitive on a global scale.? i'm just wondering about how you view clariant's portfolio overall as a kind of combination of fairly discrete businesses and in the context of another weak year in 2026 and frankly who knows? f or 2027 i mean is now maybe the time to start thinking about whether there's value to be had in breaking clariant up or doing asset swaps to improve your scale in some of the businesses and make the individual units more competitive on a global scale Thank you. thank you

Speaker 5: Thank you, Ranulf. If you look at the portfolio high level, where we came from was a hybrid between, on the one hand commodity chemicals and on the other hand, specialty chemicals. Over the years, we have successfully repositioned the business towards purely specialty chemicals. As you are aware, we divested our master batch business. We divested more recently the pigment business, even more recently the North America oil lands business. What we have now is really a portfolio that really is truly specialty in nature. Thank you, Ranulf. thank you ranulf If you look at the portfolio high level, where we came from was a hybrid between, on the one hand commodity chemicals and on the other hand, specialty chemicals. if you look at the portfolio high level where we came from was a hybrid between on the one hand commodity chemicals and on the other hand specialty chemicals Over the years, we have successfully repositioned the business towards purely specialty chemicals. over the years we have successfully repositioned the business towards purely specialty chemicals As you are aware, we divested our master batch business. as you are aware we divested our master batch business We divested more recently the pigment business, even more recently the North America oil lands business. we divested more recently the pigment business even more recently the north america oil lands business What we have now is really a portfolio that really is truly specialty in nature. what we have now is really a portfolio that really is truly specialty in nature We're actually very pleased with the businesses there. To your point, limited growth in 2026, limited growth this year, there may at some point be a certain level of industry consolidation. That is certainly what most people are predicting. We obviously want to play an active role in that. We've also seen that we've been very disciplined with the acquisitions that we've made in recent years. All of these have actually strengthened our core businesses, and we have no intent to bring in businesses that do not bring true synergy to the existing portfolio. We're actually very pleased with the businesses there. we're actually very pleased with the businesses there To your point, limited growth in 2026, limited growth this year, there may at some point be a certain level of industry consolidation. to your point limited growth in 2026 limited growth this year there may at some point be a certain level of industry consolidation That is certainly what most people are predicting. that is certainly what most people are predicting We obviously want to play an active role in that. we obviously want to play an active role in that We've also seen that we've been very disciplined with the acquisitions that we've made in recent years. we've also seen that we've been very disciplined with the acquisitions that we've made in recent years All of these have actually strengthened our core businesses, and we have no intent to bring in businesses that do not bring true synergy to the existing portfolio. all of these have actually strengthened our core businesses and we have no intent to bring in businesses that do not bring true synergy to the existing portfolio

Speaker 12: Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. yeah. thank you

Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 11: We have now a question from Chris Counihan from Jefferies. Please go ahead. We have now a question from Chris Counihan from Jefferies. we have now a question from chris counihan from jefferies Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much for squeezing me in. I just wanted to come back to the board changes and the reduction, because just sort of thinking back to a few years ago and the accounting investigation that happened I think in 2022. As part of the investigations, you talked about more controls, financial controls over financial reporting, procedures a lot in the finance side. I also remember you at that stage talking about more active board control and involvement in terms of controls at Clariant. I'm just trying to marry the statements from a few years ago versus now, the way forward of reducing the board size, because it almost feels to me like the board's role in such controls is maybe reducing as well. Yeah, thanks so much for squeezing me in. yeah thanks so much for squeezing me in I just wanted to come back to the board changes and the reduction, because just sort of thinking back to a few years ago and the accounting investigation that happened I think in 2022. i just wanted to come back to the board changes and the reduction because just sort of thinking back to a few years ago and the accounting investigation that happened i think in 2022 As part of the investigations, you talked about more controls, financial controls over financial reporting, procedures a lot in the finance side. as part of the investigations you talked about more controls financial controls over financial reporting procedures a lot in the finance side I also remember you at that stage talking about more active board control and involvement in terms of controls at Clariant. i also remember you at that stage talking about more active board control and involvement in terms of controls at clariant I'm just trying to marry the statements from a few years ago versus now, the way forward of reducing the board size, because it almost feels to me like the board's role in such controls is maybe reducing as well. i'm just trying to marry the statements from a few years ago versus now the way forward of reducing the board size because it almost feels to me like the board's role in such controls is maybe reducing as well

Speaker 6: No, Chris. This is totally unrelated. We basically are in 2025 now. We had the accounting challenge. That was actually very early on in my assignment. That was about the 2021 numbers and even 2020 numbers. Indeed, you're right, Chris. We discussed it at the time. We identified a number of serious gaps. We brought in a new CFO. We really strengthened our checks and balances and controls, including more appropriate involvement by including our board members at the time. This is in place now, solidly in place for a number of years. These recent announced board changes are unrelated to that. No, Chris. no chris This is totally unrelated. this is totally unrelated We basically are in 2025 now. we basically are in 2025 now We had the accounting challenge. we had the accounting challenge That was actually very early on in my assignment. that was actually very early on in my assignment That was about the 2021 numbers and even 2020 numbers . that was about the 2021 numbers and even 2020 numbers Indeed, you're right, Chris. indeed you're right chris We discussed it at the time. we discussed it at the time We identified a number of serious gaps. we identified a number of serious gaps We brought in a new CFO. we brought in a new cfo We really strengthened our checks and balances and controls, including more appropriate involvement by including our board members at the time. we really strengthened our checks and balances and controls including more appropriate involvement by including our board members at the time This is in place now, solidly in place for a number of years. this is in place now solidly in place for a number of years These recent announced board changes are unrelated to that. these recent announced board changes are unrelated to that

Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Okay, thank you. okay thank you

Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 10: Thanks. Thanks. thanks

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