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Borregaard — Call Transcript 2025
Oct 22, 2025
Good morning and welcome to the third quarter 2025 presentation for Borregaard. My name is Tom Erik Foss-Jacobsen. I am the new CEO since 1st of August, and I'll be joined today by Per Bjarne Lyngstad, our CFO, and we will take you through this agenda. I'll begin with the key highlights from the quarter and provide an update on the market situation across our business segments. I will then share details on our second investment to increase capacity at our site in Sarpsborg, which has recently been approved on the board level, as well as our participation in a convertible loan to Alginor. Finally, I'll summarize the outlook for the remainder of the year before handing over to Per Bjarne, who will walk you through the financial performance in more detail. Before we continue, I just would like to remind those of you watching the webcast live that you're welcome to submit questions at any time during the presentation, and we'll address them at the end of the presentation. Let's begin with the highlights for the third quarter. EBITDA came in at NOK 440 million, down from NOK 524 million in the same quarter last year. The overall result was reduced due to lower bioethanol prices and disruption in cellulose production. The disruption had a negative EBITDA impact of approximately NOK 40 million. We saw solid performance in biosolutions, driven by continued sales growth in agriculture, marking the seventh consecutive quarter of growth in that area. In biomaterials, we continued to see increased sales prices. Our fine chemical intermediates delivered a strong result. Across all business areas, we had positive net currency effects. Now let's turn to the market situation, starting with biosolutions. Sales volume increased 4% compared to the same quarter last year. This growth was again driven by our broad agriculture portfolio, with no single product group or single market standing out. We offer a broad portfolio to the agricultural sector. It's comprising approximately 200 different products, and we are serving around 1,000 customers within agriculture. The average price in sales currency and the product mix were in line with the same quarter last year. Q3 typically sees a seasonally weaker product mix, which may slightly dampen the average sales price. The anti-dumping duties on vanillin from China continued to have a positive, though limited, impact on Borregaard's vanillin products. We also saw positive net currency effects across the segment in the quarter. Next, over to biomaterials, where performance was weaker in the quarter. The average price in sales currency was 9% higher than in the third quarter 2024, primarily driven by price increases. However, higher sales prices and an improved product mix were more than offset by a significant decline in sales volume compared to the same quarter last year. The lower sales volume was due to the temporary disruption in cellulose production and strong deliveries in the corresponding quarter last year. Net currency effects were positive for biomaterials in the quarter. I would like to address the recent developments regarding allegations of dumping of specialty cellulose products from Norway, specifically Borregaard, into the U.S. market. In August, RYAM and the United Steelworkers Union filed petitions in the U.S. requesting anti-dumping and countervailing duties on specialty cellulose imports. The petition targets products from both Norway, meaning Borregaard as a company, and also Brazil, where we have a company named Bracell, which is the target. For Borregaard, this means anti-dumping duties, while Bracell faces both anti-dumping and countervailing duties. Borregaard does not recognize the basis for these claims and has engaged both legal and accounting specialists to defend our position. It's important to note that Borregaard's historical sales of specialty cellulose to the U.S. have been limited. However, there was a moderate increase in sales in 2024, driven by higher demand following the closure of Georgia Pacific's Foley plant in Florida. Regardless of the petition, our exports to the U.S. will decrease in 2024. Excuse me, in 2025. As of 1st of August, specialty cellulose products from Norway are already subject to a 15% import duty, and any additional anti-dumping duties beyond that are expected to have a limited impact on our export volumes to the U.S. A preliminary decision is expected late in Q1 2026, at the earliest, with a final decision expected likely late in Q3 next year. Now moving on to fine chemicals, where performance was weaker in the quarter. The main driver here was the continued lower sales prices for our advanced bioethanol. In addition, deliveries of bioethanol were lower compared to the high volumes in the same quarter last year. As previously explained, the decline in sales prices for our advanced bioethanol is largely due to a significant increase in market supply, driven by the favorable incentives we have seen in Europe. In fine chemical intermediates, we saw a strong quarter supported by a more favorable product mix and higher sales prices compared to the same period last year. The net currency impact in fine chemicals was positive. I would like to update you on the progress of our capacity expansion at the Sarpsborg site, which is a key part of Borregaard's long-term growth strategy. We have now committed to the second step of our two-phase expansion plan at Sarpsborg, with an investment of NOK 308 million. This follows the first investment of NOK 490 million, which was launched in Q3 last year as part of the investment plan that we announced at our Capital Markets Day. The main goal for us here is to debottleneck and increase production capacity at the site. When both steps are completed, we expect a total capacity increase of 5% to 10%. The expansion covers our core product areas: lignin-based biopolymers, specialty cellulose, and bioethanol. Production output is expected to increase gradually from the second half of 2026. In addition to higher capacity, these investments will also deliver environmental and cost benefits, including reduced costs and volume of residuals, energy savings, and also reduced caustic soda consumption. We also anticipate a reduction in COD effluence, supporting our ambitious sustainability targets. I would also like to update you on Borregaard's participation in the recent financing solution for Alginor, which is an important step in supporting their ongoing investments. The financing package is designed to ensure Alginor can complete and commission its commercial scale demonstration plant for alginates. As part of the financing solution, the convertible loan is being guaranteed by three main shareholders: Borregaard, Must Invest, and Hatteland Group. Our share of the loan will be between NOK 83 million and NOK 111 million, depending on the level of participation from other shareholders. Finally, I'll share our outlook for Q4. In biosolutions, we anticipate Q4 sales volumes to range between 70,000 and 75,000 tons, which means below the 77,000 tons recorded in the same quarter last year. Anti-dumping duties on vanillin from China are anticipated to continue having a positive but limited impact for Borregaard's vanillin products. In biomaterials, Q4 sales volume is expected to be in the range of 35,000 tons-38,000 tons. We anticipate a higher share of highly specialized grades compared to Q4 last year, and the average sales price should remain largely in line with Q3 this year. For fine chemicals, sales prices for bioethanol will continue to be significantly lower than last year. The product mix for fine chemical intermediates in Q4 is expected to be weaker than in Q3. On the cost side, wood costs in Q4 will be slightly lower than in Q4 last year. However, we expect energy consumption, spot energy prices, and energy-related raw material prices to increase seasonally in Q4 compared to Q3 this year. The annual maintenance stop at the Sarpsborg site will also affect production volumes in Q4. Finally, we will continue to monitor the uncertainty in the global economy, particularly related to tariffs, war, and conflicts, which may impact our markets and costs. With that, I'll hand it over to our CFO, Per Bjarne Lyngstad, who will take you through our financial performance and key figures for the quarter. Thank you. Thank you, Tom Erik, and good morning, everyone. Borregaard's operating revenues in the third quarter declined by 8% compared with the third quarter of 2024, mainly due to lower sales volume in biomaterials and lower sales prices for bioethanol. EBITDA was NOK 440 million, down from NOK 524 million in the third quarter last year. Biosolutions delivered a slightly improved result, while biomaterials and fine chemicals had weaker performance. Net currency effects were positive by about NOK 30 million compared with the third quarter of 2024. In September, an unexpected outage occurred at a facility at the Sarpsborg site, which supplies a key chemical used in cellulose production. During the outage, we produced cellulose grades outside specifications, leading to delayed deliveries of certain grades. Production of lignin-based biopolymers, biovanillin, and bioethanol remained unaffected by the outage. The EBITDA impact from the production disruption was about NOK 40 million, as previously mentioned by Tom Erik. The EBITDA margin ended at 24.5%, close to the margins we've had in previous quarters this year, but below the margin in the same quarter last year. Earnings per share were NOK 1.96 compared with NOK 2.51 in the third quarter last year. The reduction in earnings per share was mainly due to the decrease in EBITDA adjusted for tax. In biosolutions, operating revenues increased by 3%, primarily driven by higher sales volume. EBITDA was NOK 277 million, a slight improvement of NOK 6 million compared with the third quarter last year. Continued growth in sales to agriculture was offset by cost increases exceeding the general inflation. These cost increases were mainly due to higher input and manning costs at our U.S. manufacturing sites. Anti-dumping duties on vanillin from China had a positive but limited impact on vanillin products. The net currency impact was positive for biosolutions in the quarter, and the EBITDA margin in the third quarter was 26.2%, in line with the same quarter last year. A lower sales volume due to the disruption in cellulose production and high deliveries in the third quarter last year resulted in 15% lower operating revenues in the third quarter for biomaterials. EBITDA was NOK 112 million, NOK 19 million lower than in the same quarter last year. On the positive side, we had higher sales prices and an improved product mix. However, this was more than offset by the lower sales volume, in addition to higher wood costs. The wood costs were impacted by an above-normal inventory level at higher prices at the beginning of the quarter, in addition to an unfavorable mix of wood in the quarter. The net currency effects were positive for biomaterials. The EBITDA margin was 19.2%, in line with the third quarter of last year. Operating revenues in fine chemicals declined by more than 30% compared with the third quarter of 2024, primarily due to lower sales prices for bioethanol. EBITDA ended at NOK 51 million compared with NOK 122 million last year. The reduction in EBITDA was mainly driven by continued lower sales prices for bioethanol. Lower deliveries of bioethanol compared with the high deliveries in the third quarter last year also contributed to the decline. Fine chemical intermediates delivered a strong result, supported by a more favorable product mix and price increases compared with the third quarter last year. Net currency effects were positive also for fine chemicals. The EBITDA margin was 30.5% in this area, close to 20 percentage points below the same quarter last year. As mentioned earlier, the net currency impact on EBITDA was positive by about NOK 30 million compared with the third quarter last year. The positive impact was primarily due to reduced currency hedging losses. Hedging losses were NOK 21 million in the third quarter compared with a loss of NOK 86 million in the same quarter last year. The positive impact from lower hedging losses was partly offset by a stronger Norwegian krone, particularly against the dollar. Based on Borregaard's currency basket, the NOK was about 4% stronger compared with the same quarter last year. Using currency rates as of yesterday, the estimated net currency effect for the full year of 2025 is now positive by NOK 115 million compared with 2024. The corresponding impact for the fourth quarter is estimated to be positive by about NOK 5 million. Borregaard had a cash flow from operating activities of NOK 423 million in the third quarter. The relatively strong cash flow was driven by the cash effect from EBITDA and a reduction in net working capital. Investments were NOK 160 million in the quarter. The largest expenditures were related to the Sarpsborg site and ongoing environmental investments, the debottlenecking project, and specialization projects in biosolutions. In addition, Borregaard participated with NOK 23 million in the repair offering in Alginor's capital raise. Net interest-bearing debt decreased by as much as NOK 283 million in the quarter. At the end of the quarter, Borregaard remained well capitalized with an equity ratio of 60% and a leverage ratio, which is net interest-bearing debt over EBITDA, of 1.11. That concludes today's presentation. Tom Erik and I will now be ready to answer any questions, both from the audience present here in Oslo and from those who followed the webcast. Our Vice President of Finance, Veronica Skevik Frey, will moderate the webcast questions. Thank you, Per Bjarne. We have some questions here. The first one is from Mr. Magnus Rasmussen at SIB regarding CapEx. You have a NOK 1 billion CapEx guidance for 2025 and have spent just NOK 542 million year to date. Should we expect NOK 450 million of CapEx in Q4? If not, is it actually lower CapEx or just phasing? Normally, we put in a lot of equipment during the maintenance stop in October, and we've always had a much higher number in the fourth quarter than in the three other quarters in the year. Whether it will reach NOK 400+ million, it's a bit early to tell because we have, like you say, phasing also here that some costs may go over to 2026. We think it will be at least close to the NOK 1 billion we have in the forecast. Thank you. There's another question also from Magnus Rasmussen regarding biosolutions margins. Despite the foreign exchange tailwind, your biosolutions margins are declining year on year. Why? What should we expect going forward? As I said, in agriculture, we offer a very broad portfolio. We have around 200 different products sold to 1,000 different customers, and this is also within a broad range of sub-applications. There will be mixed differences within agriculture, and I would say that's the main explanation for why you can see differences like that. I think we should remind people that we have very high margins in this area, and they have been at well above 25% over quite a long period. Of course, we are hurt a little bit by the dollar also on the top line, which also affects margins a little bit. Thank you. Next question is regarding cost-based development, and it comes from Mr. Elliott Jones at Danske Bank. Given the margin developments across all quarters, could you please provide further color on cost-based developments and if you expect any changes to these dynamics in the fourth quarter and beyond? What we've seen this year is that we have had quite significant cost inflation, like the rest of the country and the world. We've had some further increases in cost due to that. For instance, we are upgrading our facility in Wisconsin in the U.S. It's both an upgrade and an expansion. We have also increased our sales force a little bit, so we have some additional costs in addition to the general inflation. We've also seen that buying equipment in Norway seems like that has increased more than the general inflation, both when it goes to maintenance and also when it goes to investments. We've seen some cost increases above inflation so far. Whether that will continue is difficult to say. Our aim is to keep our cost increases at or below the general inflation and expect more productivity gains, but it's a bit early to see how that will develop. Thank you. There is a question on costs related to anti-dumping. It also comes from Elliott Jones at Danske Bank. With regards to the anti-dumping allegations, can you provide some color as to any potential costs you expect to realize, if any, in connection with this? Yeah, as most of you know, U.S. lawyers and experts are quite expensive compared to what we see here in this country. This will affect our costs going forward. It's still early days, so it's difficult for us to estimate how much this will cost. It's a limited number of products that are involved on our side, which will bring the cost a bit down. We are talking some millions in cost here. Whether it will be more than $10 million in cost is too early to tell, but we are talking about a low double-digit number, I would say. Next question is related to wood costs. It comes from Mr. Magnus Rasmussen at SIB. Is there a change in wood cost guidance versus what you said at the second quarter? Not really. If we talk about the price reduction on wood, that's the same. What we saw in the third quarter, and it will probably have an impact on the full quarter, is really that we had a change in the mix. We switched between chips and round wood when we buy wood, and transport distances are also a bit varying depending on where the wood is cut. This quarter, we had quite a high and a higher than normal inventory of wood at old higher prices, so that affected the third quarter. That was probably a bit more than we had expected also. The fourth quarter should be better. The mix is always a question, but I think we are pretty much in line with what we said, but maybe it will be a little bit higher due to the costs we saw in the third quarter. Thank you. Next question is related to average sales price development in biosolutions. It comes from Mr. Martin Granviken at Kepler Cheuvreux. Could you elaborate on the average sales price development in BioSolutions? If AgChem sales continue to increase, why is the average sales price in sales currency flat year over year and the product mix stated to be in line with last year? Wouldn't higher AgChem sales imply a more favorable product mix? I think this is a very similar question to the one we responded to initially. I can only repeat that we think that's related to mix within the aggregate where we have a very broad portfolio of a couple of hundred products and 1,000 customers. It will depend on which applications during the quarter take more volume, which take less. You had something on currency as well, Per Bjarne? Yeah, currency will have an impact also going forward here. Thank you. There's another question on wood costs. It comes from Mr. Sam Bland at Moore. Could you talk about what you are seeing on wood costs, which you probably already answered? Is the cost in Q4 expected to be lower versus Q3 as well as Q4 last year? Will this continue to be a cost tailwind in 2026? Yeah, the fourth quarter I explained, and the wood costs are on its way down from what we see in Norway. What you have to remember is that we have half-year negotiations on price on wood, so our prices on what we buy will be the same in the fourth quarter as what we bought in the third quarter. What brought it up in the third quarter was the mix. What we see in the market now, the negotiations for next year, they will start from now until the end of the year. We don't know at the present what the wood price will be for next year. What we see from Sweden and also here in Norway, we see sawmills closing down for at least a period. There is a pressure on wood prices coming down. Of course, we hope to see more of that in 2026. Thank you. Next question is also regarding CapEx. It comes from Mr. Andres Castanos at Berenberg. He also thanked you for the presentation. Just wanted to confirm that second phase of Sarpsborg debottlenecking was already included in the CapEx guidance shared in the 2024 Capital Markets Day for the year 2026. Yeah, the answer is yes, it was. Thank you. There is one more question regarding wood costs again, so I think you've already explained that. It comes from [Mr. Nicklas Wetterling] at DNB Carnegie. Could you give a rough estimate of how much the effect of higher wood costs in the beginning of the quarter was relative to what it would have been with a new wood cost for the rest of the second half? I would say that the additional cost we had compared to last year in the third quarter was in the range of NOK 10-NOK 15 million. It will be in that range, maybe closer to NOK 10 million lower in the fourth quarter compared to the third quarter. It is pretty much the same compared to last year also. Thank you. There are no more questions on the web. Yeah, I just want to check if there are any questions from the audience here in Oslo. Kristoffer Haugland, Arctic Securities. Can you provide some color on how much deliveries were down in bioethanol in Q1 or Q2 or year on year? I could give you a percentage. I think it was about 30%. It was an extremely high delivery in the third quarter of last year. It's the highest delivery in one quarter that we ever had. This was really more a normal delivery quarter for bioethanol. It was just that it was so high in the third quarter last year. Thank you. One last for me. What do you expect in terms of mix in biosolutions in Q4 on the aggregate side? We don't comment specifically on mix. We just give the volume range that we expect and average sales pricing to continue. I can say in general that we are positive to the development we're seeing in aggregate. As I said, it's the seventh consecutive quarter that we report growth in aggregate. The long-term picture for aggregate is something we're very positive about and that our portfolio fits very well with the needs of that market. Thank you. I think that was the final question today. Yeah. Thank you for your attention. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the third quarter 2025 presentation for Borregaard. My name is Tom Erik Foss-Jacobsen. I am the new CEO since 1st of August, and I'll be joined today by Per Bjarne Lyngstad, our CFO, and we will take you through this agenda. I'll begin with the key highlights from the quarter and provide an update on the market situation across our business segments. I will then share details on our second investment to increase capacity at our site in Sarpsborg, which has recently been approved on the board level, as well as our participation in a convertible loan to Alginor. Finally, I'll summarize the outlook for the remainder of the year before handing over to Per Bjarne, who will walk you through the financial performance in more detail. Good morning and welcome to the third quarter 2025 presentation for Borregaard. good morning and welcome to the third quarter 2025 presentation for borregaard My name is Tom Erik Foss-Jacobsen. my name is tom erik foss-jacobsen I am the new CEO since 1st of August, and I'll be joined today by Per Bjarne Lyngstad, our CFO, and we will take you through this agenda. i am the new ceo since 1st of august and i'll be joined today by per bjarne lyngstad our cfo and we will take you through this agenda I'll begin with the key highlights from the quarter and provide an update on the market situation across our business segments. i'll begin with the key highlights from the quarter and provide an update on the market situation across our business segments I will then share details on our second investment to increase capacity at our site in Sarpsborg, which has recently been approved on the board level, as well as our participation in a convertible loan to Alginor. i will then share details on our second investment to increase capacity at our site in sarpsborg which has recently been approved on the board level as well as our participation in a convertible loan to alginor Finally, I'll summarize the outlook for the remainder of the year before handing over to Per Bjarne, who will walk you through the financial performance in more detail. finally i'll summarize the outlook for the remainder of the year before handing over to per bjarne who will walk you through the financial performance in more detail Before we continue, I just would like to remind those of you watching the webcast live that you're welcome to submit questions at any time during the presentation, and we'll address them at the end of the presentation. Let's begin with the highlights for the third quarter. EBITDA came in at NOK 440 million, down from NOK 524 million in the same quarter last year. The overall result was reduced due to lower bioethanol prices and disruption in cellulose production. The disruption had a negative EBITDA impact of approximately NOK 40 million. We saw solid performance in biosolutions, driven by continued sales growth in agriculture, marking the seventh consecutive quarter of growth in that area. In biomaterials, we continued to see increased sales prices. Our fine chemical intermediates delivered a strong result. Across all business areas, we had positive net currency effects. Before we continue, I just would like to remind those of you watching the webcast live that you're welcome to submit questions at any time during the presentation, and we'll address them at the end of the presentation. before we continue i just would like to remind those of you watching the webcast live that you're welcome to submit questions at any time during the presentation and we'll address them at the end of the presentation Let's begin with the highlights for the third quarter. let's begin with the highlights for the third quarter EBITDA came in at NOK 440 million, down from NOK 524 million in the same quarter last year. ebitda came in at nok 440 million down from nok 524 million in the same quarter last year The overall result was reduced due to lower bioethanol prices and disruption in cellulose production. the overall result was reduced due to lower bioethanol prices and disruption in cellulose production The disruption had a negative EBITDA impact of approximately NOK 40 million. the disruption had a negative ebitda impact of approximately nok 40 million We saw solid performance in biosolutions, driven by continued sales growth in agriculture, marking the seventh consecutive quarter of growth in that area. we saw solid performance in biosolutions driven by continued sales growth in agriculture marking the seventh consecutive quarter of growth in that area In biomaterials, we continued to see increased sales prices. in biomaterials we continued to see increased sales prices Our fine chemical intermediates delivered a strong result. our fine chemical intermediates delivered a strong result Across all business areas, we had positive net currency effects. across all business areas we had positive net currency effects Now let's turn to the market situation, starting with biosolutions. Sales volume increased 4% compared to the same quarter last year. This growth was again driven by our broad agriculture portfolio, with no single product group or single market standing out. We offer a broad portfolio to the agricultural sector. It's comprising approximately 200 different products, and we are serving around 1,000 customers within agriculture. The average price in sales currency and the product mix were in line with the same quarter last year. Q3 typically sees a seasonally weaker product mix, which may slightly dampen the average sales price. The anti-dumping duties on vanillin from China continued to have a positive, though limited, impact on Borregaard's vanillin products. We also saw positive net currency effects across the segment in the quarter. Next, over to biomaterials, where performance was weaker in the quarter. Now let's turn to the market situation, starting with biosolutions. now let's turn to the market situation starting with biosolutions Sales volume increased 4% compared to the same quarter last year. sales volume increased 4% compared to the same quarter last year This growth was again driven by our broad agriculture portfolio, with no single product group or single market standing out. this growth was again driven by our broad agriculture portfolio with no single product group or single market standing out We offer a broad portfolio to the agricultural sector. we offer a broad portfolio to the agricultural sector It's comprising approximately 200 different products, and we are serving around 1,000 customers within agriculture. it's comprising approximately 200 different products and we are serving around 1,000 customers within agriculture The average price in sales currency and the product mix were in line with the same quarter last year. the average price in sales currency and the product mix were in line with the same quarter last year Q3 typically sees a seasonally weaker product mix, which may slightly dampen the average sales price. q3 typically sees a seasonally weaker product mix which may slightly dampen the average sales price The anti-dumping duties on vanillin from China continued to have a positive, though limited, impact on Borregaard's vanillin products. the anti-dumping duties on vanillin from china continued to have a positive though limited impact on borregaard's vanillin products We also saw positive net currency effects across the segment in the quarter. we also saw positive net currency effects across the segment in the quarter Next, over to biomaterials, where performance was weaker in the quarter. next over to biomaterials where performance was weaker in the quarter The average price in sales currency was 9% higher than in the third quarter 2024, primarily driven by price increases. However, higher sales prices and an improved product mix were more than offset by a significant decline in sales volume compared to the same quarter last year. The lower sales volume was due to the temporary disruption in cellulose production and strong deliveries in the corresponding quarter last year. Net currency effects were positive for biomaterials in the quarter. I would like to address the recent developments regarding allegations of dumping of specialty cellulose products from Norway, specifically Borregaard, into the U.S. market. In August, RYAM and the United Steelworkers Union filed petitions in the U.S. requesting anti-dumping and countervailing duties on specialty cellulose imports. The average price in sales currency was 9% higher than in the third quarter 2024, primarily driven by price increases. the average price in sales currency was 9% higher than in the third quarter 2024 primarily driven by price increases However, higher sales prices and an improved product mix were more than offset by a significant decline in sales volume compared to the same quarter last year. however higher sales prices and an improved product mix were more than offset by a significant decline in sales volume compared to the same quarter last year The lower sales volume was due to the temporary disruption in cellulose production and strong deliveries in the corresponding quarter last year. the lower sales volume was due to the temporary disruption in cellulose production and strong deliveries in the corresponding quarter last year Net currency effects were positive for biomaterials in the quarter. net currency effects were positive for biomaterials in the quarter I would like to address the recent developments regarding allegations of dumping of specialty cellulose products from Norway, specifically Borregaard, into the U.S. market. i would like to address the recent developments regarding allegations of dumping of specialty cellulose products from norway specifically borregaard into the u.s market In August, RYAM and the United Steelw orkers Union filed petitions in the U.S. requesting anti-dumping and countervailing duties on specialty cellulose imports. in august ryam and the united steelw orkers union filed petitions in the u.s requesting anti-dumping and countervailing duties on specialty cellulose imports The petition targets products from both Norway, meaning Borregaard as a company, and also Brazil, where we have a company named Bracell, which is the target. For Borregaard, this means anti-dumping duties, while Bracell faces both anti-dumping and countervailing duties. Borregaard does not recognize the basis for these claims and has engaged both legal and accounting specialists to defend our position. It's important to note that Borregaard's historical sales of specialty cellulose to the U.S. have been limited. However, there was a moderate increase in sales in 2024, driven by higher demand following the closure of Georgia Pacific's Foley plant in Florida. Regardless of the petition, our exports to the U.S. will decrease in 2024. Excuse me, in 2025. The petition targets products from both Norway, meaning Borregaard as a company, and also Brazil, where we have a company named Bracell, which is the target. the petition targets products from both norway meaning borregaard as a company and also brazil where we have a company named bracell which is the target For Borregaard, this means anti-dumping duties, while Bracell faces both anti-dumping and countervailing duties. for borregaard this means anti-dumping duties while bracell faces both anti-dumping and countervailing duties Borregaard does not recognize the basis for these claims and has engaged both legal and accounting specialists to defend our position. borregaard does not recognize the basis for these claims and has engaged both legal and accounting specialists to defend our position It's important to note that Borregaard's historical sales of specialty cellulose to the U.S. have been limited. it's important to note that borregaard's historical sales of specialty cellulose to the u.s have been limited However, there was a moderate increase in sales in 2024, driven by higher demand following the closure of Georgia Pacific's Foley plant in Florida. however there was a moderate increase in sales in 2024 driven by higher demand following the closure of georgia pacific's foley plant in florida Regardless of the petition, our exports to the U.S. will decrease in 2024. regardless of the petition our exports to the u.s will decrease in 2024 Excuse me, in 2025. excuse me in 2025 As of 1st of August, specialty cellulose products from Norway are already subject to a 15% import duty, and any additional anti-dumping duties beyond that are expected to have a limited impact on our export volumes to the U.S. A preliminary decision is expected late in Q1 2026, at the earliest, with a final decision expected likely late in Q3 next year. Now moving on to fine chemicals, where performance was weaker in the quarter. The main driver here was the continued lower sales prices for our advanced bioethanol. In addition, deliveries of bioethanol were lower compared to the high volumes in the same quarter last year. As previously explained, the decline in sales prices for our advanced bioethanol is largely due to a significant increase in market supply, driven by the favorable incentives we have seen in Europe. As of 1st of August, specialty cellulose products from Norway are already subject to a 15% import duty, and any additional anti-dumping duties beyond that are expected to have a limited impact on our export volumes to the U.S. as of 1st of august specialty cellulose products from norway are already subject to a 15% import duty and any additional anti-dumping duties beyond that are expected to have a limited impact on our export volumes to the u.s A preliminary decision is expected late in Q1 2026, at the earliest, with a final decision expected likely late in Q3 next year. a preliminary decision is expected late in q1 2026 at the earliest with a final decision expected likely late in q3 next year Now moving on to fine chemicals, where performance was weaker in the quarter. now moving on to fine chemicals where performance was weaker in the quarter The main driver here was the continued lower sales prices for our advanced bioethanol. the main driver here was the continued lower sales prices for our advanced bioethanol In addition, deliveries of bioethanol were lower compared to the high volumes in the same quarter last year. in addition deliveries of bioethanol were lower compared to the high volumes in the same quarter last year As previously explained, the decline in sales prices for our advanced bioethanol is largely due to a significant increase in market supply, driven by the favorable incentives we have seen in Europe. as previously explained the decline in sales prices for our advanced bioethanol is largely due to a significant increase in market supply driven by the favorable incentives we have seen in europe In fine chemical intermediates, we saw a strong quarter supported by a more favorable product mix and higher sales prices compared to the same period last year. The net currency impact in fine chemicals was positive. I would like to update you on the progress of our capacity expansion at the Sarpsborg site, which is a key part of Borregaard's long-term growth strategy. We have now committed to the second step of our two-phase expansion plan at Sarpsborg, with an investment of NOK 308 million. This follows the first investment of NOK 490 million, which was launched in Q3 last year as part of the investment plan that we announced at our Capital Markets Day. The main goal for us here is to debottleneck and increase production capacity at the site. When both steps are completed, we expect a total capacity increase of 5% to 10%. In fine chemical intermediates, we saw a strong quarter supported by a more favorable product mix and higher sales prices compared to the same period last year. in fine chemical intermediates we saw a strong quarter supported by a more favorable product mix and higher sales prices compared to the same period last year The net currency impact in fine chemicals was positive. the net currency impact in fine chemicals was positive I would like to update you on the progress of our capacity expansion at the Sarpsborg site, which is a key part of Borregaard's long-term growth strategy. i would like to update you on the progress of our capacity expansion at the sarpsborg site which is a key part of borregaard's long-term growth strategy We have now committed to the second step of our two-phase expansion plan at Sarpsborg, with an investment of NOK 308 million. we have now committed to the second step of our two-phase expansion plan at sarpsborg with an investment of nok 308 million This follows the first investment of NOK 490 million, which was launched in Q3 last year as part of the investment plan that we announced at our Capital Markets Day. this follows the first investment of nok 490 million which was launched in q3 last year as part of the investment plan that we announced at our capital markets day The main goal for us here is to debottleneck and increase production capacity at the site. the main goal for us here is to debottleneck and increase production capacity at the site When both steps are completed, we expect a total capacity increase of 5% to 10%. when both steps are completed we expect a total capacity increase of 5% to 10% The expansion covers our core product areas: lignin-based biopolymers, specialty cellulose, and bioethanol. Production output is expected to increase gradually from the second half of 2026. In addition to higher capacity, these investments will also deliver environmental and cost benefits, including reduced costs and volume of residuals, energy savings, and also reduced caustic soda consumption. We also anticipate a reduction in COD effluence, supporting our ambitious sustainability targets. I would also like to update you on Borregaard's participation in the recent financing solution for Alginor, which is an important step in supporting their ongoing investments. The financing package is designed to ensure Alginor can complete and commission its commercial scale demonstration plant for alginates. As part of the financing solution, the convertible loan is being guaranteed by three main shareholders: Borregaard, Must Invest, and Hatteland Group. The expansion covers our core product areas: lignin-based biopolymers, specialty cellulose, and bioethanol. the expansion covers our core product areas lignin-based biopolymers specialty cellulose and bioethanol Production output is expected to increase gradually from the second half of 2026. production output is expected to increase gradually from the second half of 2026 In addition to higher capacity, these investments will also deliver environmental and cost benefits, including reduced costs and volume of residuals, energy savings, and also reduced caustic soda consumption. in addition to higher capacity these investments will also deliver environmental and cost benefits including reduced costs and volume of residuals energy savings and also reduced caustic soda consumption We also anticipate a reduction in COD effluence, supporting our ambitious sustainability targets. we also anticipate a reduction in cod effluence supporting our ambitious sustainability targets I would also like to update you on Borregaard's participation in the recent financing solution for Alginor, which is an important step in supporting their ongoing investments. i would also like to update you on borregaard's participation in the recent financing solution for alginor which is an important step in supporting their ongoing investments The financing package is designed to ensure Alginor can complete and commission its commercial scale demonstration plant for alginates. the financing package is designed to ensure alginor can complete and commission its commercial scale demonstration plant for alginates As part of the financing solution, the convertible loan is being guaranteed by three main shareholders: Borregaard, Must Invest, and Hatteland Group. as part of the financing solution the convertible loan is being guaranteed by three main shareholders borregaard must invest and hatteland group Our share of the loan will be between NOK 83 million and NOK 111 million, depending on the level of participation from other shareholders. Finally, I'll share our outlook for Q4. In biosolutions, we anticipate Q4 sales volumes to range between 70,000 and 75,000 tons, which means below the 77,000 tons recorded in the same quarter last year. Anti-dumping duties on vanillin from China are anticipated to continue having a positive but limited impact for Borregaard's vanillin products. In biomaterials, Q4 sales volume is expected to be in the range of 35,000 tons-38,000 tons. We anticipate a higher share of highly specialized grades compared to Q4 last year, and the average sales price should remain largely in line with Q3 this year. For fine chemicals, sales prices for bioethanol will continue to be significantly lower than last year. Our share of the loan will be between NOK 83 million and NOK 111 million, depending on the level of participation from other shareholders. our share of the loan will be between nok 83 million and nok 111 million depending on the level of participation from other shareholders Finally, I'll share our outlook for Q4. finally i'll share our outlook for q4 In biosolutions, we anticipate Q4 sales volumes to range between 70,000 and 75,000 tons, which means below the 77,000 tons recorded in the same quarter last year. in biosolutions we anticipate q4 sales volumes to range between 70,000 and 75,000 tons which means below the 77,000 tons recorded in the same quarter last year Anti-dumping duties on vanillin from China are anticipated to continue having a positive but limited impact for Borregaard's vanillin products. anti-dumping duties on vanillin from china are anticipated to continue having a positive but limited impact for borregaard's vanillin products In biomaterials, Q4 sales volume is expected to be in the range of 35,000 tons- 38,000 tons. in biomaterials q4 sales volume is expected to be in the range of 35,000 tons- 38,000 tons We anticipate a higher share of highly specialized grades compared to Q4 last year, and the average sales price should remain largely in line with Q3 this year. we anticipate a higher share of highly specialized grades compared to q4 last year and the average sales price should remain largely in line with q3 this year For fine chemicals, sales prices for bioethanol will continue to be significantly lower than last year. for fine chemicals sales prices for bioethanol will continue to be significantly lower than last year The product mix for fine chemical intermediates in Q4 is expected to be weaker than in Q3. On the cost side, wood costs in Q4 will be slightly lower than in Q4 last year. However, we expect energy consumption, spot energy prices, and energy-related raw material prices to increase seasonally in Q4 compared to Q3 this year. The annual maintenance stop at the Sarpsborg site will also affect production volumes in Q4. Finally, we will continue to monitor the uncertainty in the global economy, particularly related to tariffs, war, and conflicts, which may impact our markets and costs. With that, I'll hand it over to our CFO, Per Bjarne Lyngstad, who will take you through our financial performance and key figures for the quarter. Thank you. The product mix for fine chemical intermediates in Q4 is expected to be weaker than in Q3. the product mix for fine chemical intermediates in q4 is expected to be weaker than in q3 On the cost side, wood costs in Q4 will be slightly lower than in Q4 last year. on the cost side wood costs in q4 will be slightly lower than in q4 last year However, we expect energy consumption, spot energy prices, and energy-related raw material prices to increase seasonally in Q4 compared to Q3 this year. however we expect energy consumption spot energy prices and energy-related raw material prices to increase seasonally in q4 compared to q3 this year The annual maintenance stop at the Sarpsborg site will also affect production volumes in Q4. the annual maintenance stop at the sarpsborg site will also affect production volumes in q4 Finally, we will continue to monitor the uncertainty in the global economy, particularly related to tariffs, war, and conflicts, which may impact our markets and costs. finally we will continue to monitor the uncertainty in the global economy particularly related to tariffs war and conflicts which may impact our markets and costs With that, I'll hand it over to our CFO, Per Bjarne Lyngstad, who will take you through our financial performance and key figures for the quarter. with that i'll hand it over to our cfo per bjarne lyngstad who will take you through our financial performance and key figures for the quarter Thank you. thank you
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom Erik, and good morning, everyone. Borregaard's operating revenues in the third quarter declined by 8% compared with the third quarter of 2024, mainly due to lower sales volume in biomaterials and lower sales prices for bioethanol. EBITDA was NOK 440 million, down from NOK 524 million in the third quarter last year. Biosolutions delivered a slightly improved result, while biomaterials and fine chemicals had weaker performance. Net currency effects were positive by about NOK 30 million compared with the third quarter of 2024. In September, an unexpected outage occurred at a facility at the Sarpsborg site, which supplies a key chemical used in cellulose production. During the outage, we produced cellulose grades outside specifications, leading to delayed deliveries of certain grades. Production of lignin-based biopolymers, biovanillin, and bioethanol remained unaffected by the outage. Thank you, Tom Erik, and good morning, everyone. thank you tom erik and good morning everyone Borregaard's operating revenues in the third quarter declined by 8% compared with the third quarter of 2024, mainly due to lower sales volume in biomaterials and lower sales prices for bioethanol. borregaard's operating revenues in the third quarter declined by 8% compared with the third quarter of 2024 mainly due to lower sales volume in biomaterials and lower sales prices for bioethanol EBITDA was NOK 440 million, down from NOK 524 million in the third quarter last year. ebitda was nok 440 million down from nok 524 million in the third quarter last year Biosolutions delivered a slightly improved result, while biomaterials and fine chemicals had weaker performance. biosolutions delivered a slightly improved result while biomaterials and fine chemicals had weaker performance Net currency effects were positive by about NOK 30 million compared with the third quarter of 2024. net currency effects were positive by about nok 30 million compared with the third quarter of 2024 In September, an unexpected outage occurred at a facility at the Sarpsborg site, which supplies a key chemical used in cellulose production. in september an unexpected outage occurred at a facility at the sarpsborg site which supplies a key chemical used in cellulose production During the outage, we produced cellulose grades outside specifications, leading to delayed deliveries of certain grades. during the outage we produced cellulose grades outside specifications leading to delayed deliveries of certain grades Production of lignin-based biopolymers, biovanillin, and bioethanol remained unaffected by the outage. production of lignin-based biopolymers biovanillin and bioethanol remained unaffected by the outage The EBITDA impact from the production disruption was about NOK 40 million, as previously mentioned by Tom Erik. The EBITDA margin ended at 24.5%, close to the margins we've had in previous quarters this year, but below the margin in the same quarter last year. Earnings per share were NOK 1.96 compared with NOK 2.51 in the third quarter last year. The reduction in earnings per share was mainly due to the decrease in EBITDA adjusted for tax. In biosolutions, operating revenues increased by 3%, primarily driven by higher sales volume. EBITDA was NOK 277 million, a slight improvement of NOK 6 million compared with the third quarter last year. Continued growth in sales to agriculture was offset by cost increases exceeding the general inflation. These cost increases were mainly due to higher input and manning costs at our U.S. manufacturing sites. The EBITDA impact from the production disruption was about NOK 40 million, as previously mentioned by Tom Erik. the ebitda impact from the production disruption was about nok 40 million as previously mentioned by tom erik The EBITDA margin ended at 24.5%, close to the margins we've had in previous quarters this year, but below the margin in the same quarter last year. the ebitda margin ended at 24.5% close to the margins we've had in previous quarters this year but below the margin in the same quarter last year Earnings per share were NOK 1.96 compared with NOK 2.51 in the third quarter last year. earnings per share were nok 1.96 compared with nok 2.51 in the third quarter last year The reduction in earnings per share was mainly due to the decrease in EBITDA adjusted for tax. the reduction in earnings per share was mainly due to the decrease in ebitda adjusted for tax In biosolutions, operating revenues increased by 3%, primarily driven by higher sales volume. in biosolutions operating revenues increased by 3% primarily driven by higher sales volume EBITDA was NOK 277 million, a slight improvement of NOK 6 million compared with the third quarter last year. ebitda was nok 277 million a slight improvement of nok 6 million compared with the third quarter last year Continued growth in sales to agriculture was offset by cost increases exceeding the general inflation. continued growth in sales to agriculture was offset by cost increases exceeding the general inflation These cost increases were mainly due to higher input and manning costs at our U.S. manufacturing sites. these cost increases were mainly due to higher input and manning costs at our u.s manufacturing sites Anti-dumping duties on vanillin from China had a positive but limited impact on vanillin products. The net currency impact was positive for biosolutions in the quarter, and the EBITDA margin in the third quarter was 26.2%, in line with the same quarter last year. A lower sales volume due to the disruption in cellulose production and high deliveries in the third quarter last year resulted in 15% lower operating revenues in the third quarter for biomaterials. EBITDA was NOK 112 million, NOK 19 million lower than in the same quarter last year. On the positive side, we had higher sales prices and an improved product mix. However, this was more than offset by the lower sales volume, in addition to higher wood costs. Anti-dumping duties on vanillin from China had a positive but limited impact on vanillin products. anti-dumping duties on vanillin from china had a positive but limited impact on vanillin products The net currency impact was positive for biosolutions in the quarter, and the EBITDA margin in the third quarter was 26.2%, in line with the same quarter last year. the net currency impact was positive for biosolutions in the quarter and the ebitda margin in the third quarter was 26.2% in line with the same quarter last year A lower sales volume due to the disruption in cellulose production and high deliveries in the third quarter last year resulted in 15% lower operating revenues in the third quarter for biomaterials. a lower sales volume due to the disruption in cellulose production and high deliveries in the third quarter last year resulted in 15% lower operating revenues in the third quarter for biomaterials EBITDA was NOK 112 million, NOK 19 million lower than in the same quarter last year. ebitda was nok 112 million nok 19 million lower than in the same quarter last year On the positive side, we had higher sales prices and an improved product mix. on the positive side we had higher sales prices and an improved product mix However, this was more than offset by the lower sales volume, in addition to higher wood costs. however this was more than offset by the lower sales volume in addition to higher wood costs The wood costs were impacted by an above-normal inventory level at higher prices at the beginning of the quarter, in addition to an unfavorable mix of wood in the quarter. The net currency effects were positive for biomaterials. The EBITDA margin was 19.2%, in line with the third quarter of last year. Operating revenues in fine chemicals declined by more than 30% compared with the third quarter of 2024, primarily due to lower sales prices for bioethanol. EBITDA ended at NOK 51 million compared with NOK 122 million last year. The reduction in EBITDA was mainly driven by continued lower sales prices for bioethanol. Lower deliveries of bioethanol compared with the high deliveries in the third quarter last year also contributed to the decline. Fine chemical intermediates delivered a strong result, supported by a more favorable product mix and price increases compared with the third quarter last year. The wood costs were impacted by an above-normal inventory level at higher prices at the beginning of the quarter, in addition to an unfavorable mix of wood in the quarter. the wood costs were impacted by an above-normal inventory level at higher prices at the beginning of the quarter in addition to an unfavorable mix of wood in the quarter The net currency effects were positive for biomaterials. the net currency effects were positive for biomaterials The EBITDA margin was 19.2%, in line with the third quarter of last year. the ebitda margin was 19.2% in line with the third quarter of last year Operating revenues in fine chemicals declined by more than 30% compared with the third quarter of 2024, primarily due to lower sales prices for bioethanol. operating revenues in fine chemicals declined by more than 30% compared with the third quarter of 2024 primarily due to lower sales prices for bioethanol EBITDA ended at NOK 51 million compared with NOK 122 million last year. ebitda ended at nok 51 million compared with nok 122 million last year The reduction in EBITDA was mainly driven by continued lower sales prices for bioethanol. the reduction in ebitda was mainly driven by continued lower sales prices for bioethanol Lower deliveries of bioethanol compared with the high deliveries in the third quarter last year also contributed to the decline. lower deliveries of bioethanol compared with the high deliveries in the third quarter last year also contributed to the decline Fine chemical intermediates delivered a strong result, supported by a more favorable product mix and price increases compared with the third quarter last year. fine chemical intermediates delivered a strong result supported by a more favorable product mix and price increases compared with the third quarter last year Net currency effects were positive also for fine chemicals. The EBITDA margin was 30.5% in this area, close to 20 percentage points below the same quarter last year. As mentioned earlier, the net currency impact on EBITDA was positive by about NOK 30 million compared with the third quarter last year. The positive impact was primarily due to reduced currency hedging losses. Hedging losses were NOK 21 million in the third quarter compared with a loss of NOK 86 million in the same quarter last year. The positive impact from lower hedging losses was partly offset by a stronger Norwegian krone, particularly against the dollar. Based on Borregaard's currency basket, the NOK was about 4% stronger compared with the same quarter last year. Using currency rates as of yesterday, the estimated net currency effect for the full year of 2025 is now positive by NOK 115 million compared with 2024. Net currency effects were positive also for fine chemicals. net currency effects were positive also for fine chemicals The EBITDA margin was 30.5% in this area, close to 20 percentage points below the same quarter last year. the ebitda margin was 30.5% in this area close to 20 percentage points below the same quarter last year As mentioned earlier, the net currency impact on EBITDA was positive by about NOK 30 million compared with the third quarter last year. as mentioned earlier the net currency impact on ebitda was positive by about nok 30 million compared with the third quarter last year The positive impact was primarily due to reduced currency hedging losses. the positive impact was primarily due to reduced currency hedging losses Hedging losses were NOK 21 million in the third quarter compared with a loss of NOK 86 million in the same quarter last year. hedging losses were nok 21 million in the third quarter compared with a loss of nok 86 million in the same quarter last year The positive impact from lower hedging losses was partly offset by a stronger Norwegian krone, particularly against the dollar. the positive impact from lower hedging losses was partly offset by a stronger norwegian krone particularly against the dollar Based on Borregaard's currency basket, the NOK was about 4% stronger compared with the same quarter last year. based on borregaard's currency basket the nok was about 4% stronger compared with the same quarter last year Using currency rates as of yesterday, the estimated net currency effect for the full year of 2025 is now positive by NOK 115 million compared with 2024. using currency rates as of yesterday the estimated net currency effect for the full year of 2025 is now positive by nok 115 million compared with 2024 The corresponding impact for the fourth quarter is estimated to be positive by about NOK 5 million. Borregaard had a cash flow from operating activities of NOK 423 million in the third quarter. The relatively strong cash flow was driven by the cash effect from EBITDA and a reduction in net working capital. Investments were NOK 160 million in the quarter. The largest expenditures were related to the Sarpsborg site and ongoing environmental investments, the debottlenecking project, and specialization projects in biosolutions. In addition, Borregaard participated with NOK 23 million in the repair offering in Alginor's capital raise. Net interest-bearing debt decreased by as much as NOK 283 million in the quarter. At the end of the quarter, Borregaard remained well capitalized with an equity ratio of 60% and a leverage ratio, which is net interest-bearing debt over EBITDA, of 1.11. That concludes today's presentation. The corresponding impact for the fourth quarter is estimated to be positive by about NOK 5 million. the corresponding impact for the fourth quarter is estimated to be positive by about nok 5 million Borregaard had a cash flow from operating activities of NOK 423 million in the third quarter. borregaard had a cash flow from operating activities of nok 423 million in the third quarter The relatively strong cash flow was driven by the cash effect from EBITDA and a reduction in net working capital. the relatively strong cash flow was driven by the cash effect from ebitda and a reduction in net working capital Investments were NOK 160 million in the quarter. investments were nok 160 million in the quarter The largest expenditures were related to the Sarpsborg site and ongoing environmental investments, the debottlenecking project, and specialization projects in biosolutions. the largest expenditures were related to the sarpsborg site and ongoing environmental investments the debottlenecking project and specialization projects in biosolutions In addition, Borregaard participated with NOK 23 million in the repair offering in Alginor's capital raise. in addition borregaard participated with nok 23 million in the repair offering in alginor's capital raise Net interest-bearing debt decreased by as much as NOK 283 million in the quarter. net interest-bearing debt decreased by as much as nok 283 million in the quarter At the end of the quarter, Borregaard remained well capitalized with an equity ratio of 60% and a leverage ratio, which is net interest-bearing debt over EBITDA, of 1.11. at the end of the quarter borregaard remained well capitalized with an equity ratio of 60% and a leverage ratio which is net interest-bearing debt over ebitda of 1.11 That concludes today's presentation. that concludes today's presentation Tom Erik and I will now be ready to answer any questions, both from the audience present here in Oslo and from those who followed the webcast. Our Vice President of Finance, Veronica Skevik Frey, will moderate the webcast questions. Tom Erik and I will now be ready to answer any questions, both from the audience present here in Oslo and from those who followed the webcast. tom erik and i will now be ready to answer any questions both from the audience present here in oslo and from those who followed the webcast Our Vice President of Finance, Veronica Skevik Frey, will moderate the webcast questions. our vice president of finance veronica skevik frey will moderate the webcast questions
Speaker 4: Thank you, Per Bjarne. We have some questions here. The first one is from Mr. Magnus Rasmussen at SIB regarding CapEx. You have a NOK 1 billion CapEx guidance for 2025 and have spent just NOK 542 million year to date. Should we expect NOK 450 million of CapEx in Q4? If not, is it actually lower CapEx or just phasing? Thank you, Per Bjarne. thank you per bjarne We have some questions here. we have some questions here The first one is from Mr. Magnus Rasmussen at SIB regarding CapEx. the first one is from mr magnus rasmussen at sib regarding capex You have a NOK 1 billion CapEx guidance for 2025 and have spent just NOK 542 million year to date. you have a nok 1 billion capex guidance for 2025 and have spent just nok 542 million year to date Should we expect NOK 450 million of CapEx in Q4? should we expect nok 450 million of capex in q4 If not, is it actually lower CapEx or just phasing? if not is it actually lower capex or just phasing
Speaker 1: Normally, we put in a lot of equipment during the maintenance stop in October, and we've always had a much higher number in the fourth quarter than in the three other quarters in the year. Whether it will reach NOK 400+ million, it's a bit early to tell because we have, like you say, phasing also here that some costs may go over to 2026. We think it will be at least close to the NOK 1 billion we have in the forecast. Normally, we put in a lot of equipment during the maintenance stop in October, and we've always had a much higher number in the fourth quarter than in the three other quarters in the year. normally we put in a lot of equipment during the maintenance stop in october and we've always had a much higher number in the fourth quarter than in the three other quarters in the year Whether it will reach NOK 400+ million, it's a bit early to tell because we have, like you say, phasing also here that some costs may go over to 2026. whether it will reach nok 400+ million it's a bit early to tell because we have like you say phasing also here that some costs may go over to 2026 We think it will be at least close to the NOK 1 billion we have in the forecast. we think it will be at least close to the nok 1 billion we have in the forecast
Speaker 4: Thank you. There's another question also from Magnus Rasmussen regarding biosolutions margins. Despite the foreign exchange tailwind, your biosolutions margins are declining year on year. Why? What should we expect going forward? Thank you. thank you There's another question also from Magnus Rasmussen regarding biosolutions margins. there's another question also from magnus rasmussen regarding biosolutions margins Despite the foreign exchange tailwind, your biosolutions margins are declining year on year. despite the foreign exchange tailwind your biosolutions margins are declining year on year Why? why What should we expect going forward? what should we expect going forward
Speaker 2: As I said, in agriculture, we offer a very broad portfolio. We have around 200 different products sold to 1,000 different customers, and this is also within a broad range of sub-applications. There will be mixed differences within agriculture, and I would say that's the main explanation for why you can see differences like that. As I said, in agriculture, we offer a very broad portfolio. as i said in agriculture we offer a very broad portfolio We have around 200 different products sold to 1,000 different customers, and this is also within a broad range of sub-applications. we have around 200 different products sold to 1,000 different customers and this is also within a broad range of sub-applications There will be mixed differences within agriculture, and I would say that's the main explanation for why you can see differences like that. there will be mixed differences within agriculture and i would say that's the main explanation for why you can see differences like that
Speaker 1: I think we should remind people that we have very high margins in this area, and they have been at well above 25% over quite a long period. Of course, we are hurt a little bit by the dollar also on the top line, which also affects margins a little bit. I think we should remind people that we have very high margins in this area, and they have been at well above 25% over quite a long period. i think we should remind people that we have very high margins in this area and they have been at well above 25% over quite a long period Of course, we are hurt a little bit by the dollar also on the top line, which also affects margins a little bit. of course we are hurt a little bit by the dollar also on the top line which also affects margins a little bit
Speaker 4: Thank you. Next question is regarding cost-based development, and it comes from Mr. Elliott Jones at Danske Bank. Given the margin developments across all quarters, could you please provide further color on cost-based developments and if you expect any changes to these dynamics in the fourth quarter and beyond? Thank you. thank you Next question is regarding cost-based development, and it comes from Mr. Elliott Jones at Danske Bank. next question is regarding cost-based development and it comes from mr elliott jones at danske bank Given the margin developments across all quarters, could you please provide further color on cost-based developments and if you expect any changes to these dynamics in the fourth quarter and beyond? given the margin developments across all quarters could you please provide further color on cost-based developments and if you expect any changes to these dynamics in the fourth quarter and beyond
Speaker 1: What we've seen this year is that we have had quite significant cost inflation, like the rest of the country and the world. We've had some further increases in cost due to that. For instance, we are upgrading our facility in Wisconsin in the U.S. It's both an upgrade and an expansion. We have also increased our sales force a little bit, so we have some additional costs in addition to the general inflation. We've also seen that buying equipment in Norway seems like that has increased more than the general inflation, both when it goes to maintenance and also when it goes to investments. We've seen some cost increases above inflation so far. Whether that will continue is difficult to say. What we've seen this year is that we have had quite significant cost inflation, like the rest of the country and the world. what we've seen this year is that we have had quite significant cost inflation like the rest of the country and the world We've had some further increases in cost due to that. we've had some further increases in cost due to that For instance, we are upgrading our facility in Wisconsin in the U.S. for instance we are upgrading our facility in wisconsin in the u.s It's both an upgrade and an expansion. it's both an upgrade and an expansion We have also increased our sales force a little bit, so we have some additional costs in addition to the general inflation. we have also increased our sales force a little bit so we have some additional costs in addition to the general inflation We've also seen that buying equipment in Norway seems like that has increased more than the general inflation, both when it goes to maintenance and also when it goes to investments. we've also seen that buying equipment in norway seems like that has increased more than the general inflation both when it goes to maintenance and also when it goes to investments We've seen some cost increases above inflation so far. we've seen some cost increases above inflation so far Whether that will continue is difficult to say. whether that will continue is difficult to say Our aim is to keep our cost increases at or below the general inflation and expect more productivity gains, but it's a bit early to see how that will develop. Our aim is to keep our cost increases at or below the general inflation and expect more productivity gains, but it's a bit early to see how that will develop. our aim is to keep our cost increases at or below the general inflation and expect more productivity gains but it's a bit early to see how that will develop
Speaker 4: Thank you. There is a question on costs related to anti-dumping. It also comes from Elliott Jones at Danske Bank. With regards to the anti-dumping allegations, can you provide some color as to any potential costs you expect to realize, if any, in connection with this? Thank you. thank you There is a question on costs related to anti-dumping. there is a question on costs related to anti-dumping It also comes from Elliott Jones at Danske Bank. it also comes from elliott jones at danske bank With regards to the anti-dumping allegations, can you provide some color as to any potential costs you expect to realize, if any, in connection with this? with regards to the anti-dumping allegations can you provide some color as to any potential costs you expect to realize if any in connection with this
Speaker 1: Yeah, as most of you know, U.S. lawyers and experts are quite expensive compared to what we see here in this country. This will affect our costs going forward. It's still early days, so it's difficult for us to estimate how much this will cost. It's a limited number of products that are involved on our side, which will bring the cost a bit down. We are talking some millions in cost here. Whether it will be more than $10 million in cost is too early to tell, but we are talking about a low double-digit number, I would say. Yeah, as most of you know, U.S. lawyers and experts are quite expensive compared to what we see here in this country. yeah as most of you know u.s lawyers and experts are quite expensive compared to what we see here in this country This will affect our costs going forward. this will affect our costs going forward It's still early days, so it's difficult for us to estimate how much this will cost. it's still early days so it's difficult for us to estimate how much this will cost It's a limited number of products that are involved on our side, which will bring the cost a bit down. it's a limited number of products that are involved on our side which will bring the cost a bit down We are talking some millions in cost here. we are talking some millions in cost here Whether it will be more than $10 million in cost is too early to tell, but we are talking about a low double-digit number, I would say. whether it will be more than $10 million in cost is too early to tell but we are talking about a low double-digit number i would say
Speaker 4: Next question is related to wood costs. It comes from Mr. Magnus Rasmussen at SIB. Is there a change in wood cost guidance versus what you said at the second quarter? Next question is related to wood costs. next question is related to wood costs It comes from Mr. Magnus Rasmussen at SIB. it comes from mr magnus rasmussen at sib Is there a change in wood cost guidance versus what you said at the second quarter? is there a change in wood cost guidance versus what you said at the second quarter
Speaker 1: Not really. If we talk about the price reduction on wood, that's the same. What we saw in the third quarter, and it will probably have an impact on the full quarter, is really that we had a change in the mix. We switched between chips and round wood when we buy wood, and transport distances are also a bit varying depending on where the wood is cut. This quarter, we had quite a high and a higher than normal inventory of wood at old higher prices, so that affected the third quarter. That was probably a bit more than we had expected also. The fourth quarter should be better. The mix is always a question, but I think we are pretty much in line with what we said, but maybe it will be a little bit higher due to the costs we saw in the third quarter. Not really. not really If we talk about the price reduction on wood, that's the same. if we talk about the price reduction on wood that's the same What we saw in the third quarter, and it will probably have an impact on the full quarter, is really that we had a change in the mix. what we saw in the third quarter and it will probably have an impact on the full quarter is really that we had a change in the mix We switched between chips and round wood when we buy wood, and transport distances are also a bit varying depending on where the wood is cut. we switched between chips and round wood when we buy wood and transport distances are also a bit varying depending on where the wood is cut This quarter, we had quite a high and a higher than normal inventory of wood at old higher prices, so that affected the third quarter. this quarter we had quite a high and a higher than normal inventory of wood at old higher prices so that affected the third quarter That was probably a bit more than we had expected also. that was probably a bit more than we had expected also The fourth quarter should be better. the fourth quarter should be better The mix is always a question, but I think we are pretty much in line with what we said, but maybe it will be a little bit higher due to the costs we saw in the third quarter. the mix is always a question but i think we are pretty much in line with what we said but maybe it will be a little bit higher due to the costs we saw in the third quarter
Speaker 4: Thank you. Next question is related to average sales price development in biosolutions. It comes from Mr. Martin Granviken at Kepler Cheuvreux. Could you elaborate on the average sales price development in BioSolutions? If AgChem sales continue to increase, why is the average sales price in sales currency flat year over year and the product mix stated to be in line with last year? Wouldn't higher AgChem sales imply a more favorable product mix? Thank you. thank you Next question is related to average sales price development in biosolutions. next question is related to average sales price development in biosolutions It comes from Mr. Martin Granviken at Kepler Cheuvreux. it comes from mr martin granviken at kepler cheuvreux Could you elaborate on the average sales price development in BioSolutions? could you elaborate on the average sales price development in biosolutions If AgChem sales continue to increase, why is the average sales price in sales currency flat year over year and the product mix stated to be in line with last year? if agchem sales continue to increase why is the average sales price in sales currency flat year over year and the product mix stated to be in line with last year Wouldn't higher AgChem sales imply a more favorable product mix? wouldn't higher agchem sales imply a more favorable product mix
Speaker 2: I think this is a very similar question to the one we responded to initially. I can only repeat that we think that's related to mix within the aggregate where we have a very broad portfolio of a couple of hundred products and 1,000 customers. It will depend on which applications during the quarter take more volume, which take less. You had something on currency as well, Per Bjarne? I think this is a very similar question to the one we responded to initially. i think this is a very similar question to the one we responded to initially I can only repeat that we think that's related to mix within the aggregate where we have a very broad portfolio of a couple of hundred products and 1,000 customers. i can only repeat that we think that's related to mix within the aggregate where we have a very broad portfolio of a couple of hundred products and 1,000 customers It will depend on which applications during the quarter take more volume, which take less. it will depend on which applications during the quarter take more volume which take less You had something on currency as well, Per Bjarne? you had something on currency as well per bjarne
Speaker 1: Yeah, currency will have an impact also going forward here. Yeah, currency will have an impact also going forward here. yeah currency will have an impact also going forward here
Speaker 4: Thank you. There's another question on wood costs. It comes from Mr. Sam Bland at Moore. Could you talk about what you are seeing on wood costs, which you probably already answered? Is the cost in Q4 expected to be lower versus Q3 as well as Q4 last year? Will this continue to be a cost tailwind in 2026? Thank you. thank you There's another question on wood costs. there's another question on wood costs It comes from Mr. Sam Bland at Moore. it comes from mr sam bland at moore Could you talk about what you are seeing on wood costs, which you probably already answered? could you talk about what you are seeing on wood costs which you probably already answered Is the cost in Q4 expected to be lower versus Q3 as well as Q4 last year? is the cost in q4 expected to be lower versus q3 as well as q4 last year Will this continue to be a cost tailwind in 2026? will this continue to be a cost tailwind in 2026
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fourth quarter I explained, and the wood costs are on its way down from what we see in Norway. What you have to remember is that we have half-year negotiations on price on wood, so our prices on what we buy will be the same in the fourth quarter as what we bought in the third quarter. What brought it up in the third quarter was the mix. What we see in the market now, the negotiations for next year, they will start from now until the end of the year. We don't know at the present what the wood price will be for next year. What we see from Sweden and also here in Norway, we see sawmills closing down for at least a period. There is a pressure on wood prices coming down. Of course, we hope to see more of that in 2026. Yeah, the fourth quarter I explained, and the wood costs are on its way down from what we see in Norway. yeah the fourth quarter i explained and the wood costs are on its way down from what we see in norway What you have to remember is that we have half-year negotiations on price on wood, so our prices on what we buy will be the same in the fourth quarter as what we bought in the third quarter. what you have to remember is that we have half-year negotiations on price on wood so our prices on what we buy will be the same in the fourth quarter as what we bought in the third quarter What brought it up in the third quarter was the mix. what brought it up in the third quarter was the mix What we see in the market now, the negotiations for next year, they will start from now until the end of the year. what we see in the market now the negotiations for next year they will start from now until the end of the year We don't know at the present what the wood price will be for next year. we don't know at the present what the wood price will be for next year What we see from Sweden and also here in Norway, we see sawmills closing down for at least a period. what we see from sweden and also here in norway we see sawmills closing down for at least a period There is a pressure on wood prices coming down. there is a pressure on wood prices coming down Of course, we hope to see more of that in 2026. of course we hope to see more of that in 2026
Speaker 4: Thank you. Next question is also regarding CapEx. It comes from Mr. Andres Castanos at Berenberg. He also thanked you for the presentation. Just wanted to confirm that second phase of Sarpsborg debottlenecking was already included in the CapEx guidance shared in the 2024 Capital Markets Day for the year 2026. Thank you. thank you Next question is also regarding CapEx. next question is also regarding capex It comes from Mr. Andres Castanos at Berenberg. it comes from mr andres castanos at berenberg He also thanked you for the presentation. he also thanked you for the presentation Just wanted to confirm that second phase of Sarpsborg debottlenecking was already included in the CapEx guidance shared in the 2024 Capital Markets Day for the year 2026. just wanted to confirm that second phase of sarpsborg debottlenecking was already included in the capex guidance shared in the 2024 capital markets day for the year 2026
Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer is yes, it was. Yeah, the answer is yes, it was. yeah the answer is yes it was
Speaker 4: Thank you. There is one more question regarding wood costs again, so I think you've already explained that. It comes from [Mr. Nicklas Wetterling] at DNB Carnegie. Could you give a rough estimate of how much the effect of higher wood costs in the beginning of the quarter was relative to what it would have been with a new wood cost for the rest of the second half? Thank you. thank you There is one more question regarding wood costs again, so I think you've already explained that. there is one more question regarding wood costs again so i think you've already explained that It comes from [Mr. it comes from [mr Nicklas Wetterling] at DNB Carnegie. nicklas wetterling] at dnb carnegie Could you give a rough estimate of how much the effect of higher wood costs in the beginning of the quarter was relative to what it would have been with a new wood cost for the rest of the second half? could you give a rough estimate of how much the effect of higher wood costs in the beginning of the quarter was relative to what it would have been with a new wood cost for the rest of the second half
Speaker 1: I would say that the additional cost we had compared to last year in the third quarter was in the range of NOK 10-NOK 15 million. It will be in that range, maybe closer to NOK 10 million lower in the fourth quarter compared to the third quarter. It is pretty much the same compared to last year also. I would say that the additional cost we had compared to last year in the third quarter was in the range of NOK 10-NOK 15 million. i would say that the additional cost we had compared to last year in the third quarter was in the range of nok 10-nok 15 million It will be in that range, maybe closer to NOK 10 million lower in the fourth quarter compared to the third quarter. It is pretty much the same compared to last year also. it will be in that range maybe closer to nok 10 million lower in the fourth quarter compared to the third quarter. it is pretty much the same compared to last year also
Speaker 4: Thank you. There are no more questions on the web. Thank you. thank you There are no more questions on the web. there are no more questions on the web
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to check if there are any questions from the audience here in Oslo. Yeah, I just want to check if there are any questions from the audience here in Oslo. yeah i just want to check if there are any questions from the audience here in oslo
Speaker 3: Kristoffer Haugland, Arctic Securities. Can you provide some color on how much deliveries were down in bioethanol in Q1 or Q2 or year on year? Kristoffer Haugland , Arctic Securities. kristoffer haugland arctic securities Can you provide some color on how much deliveries were down in bioethanol in Q1 or Q2 or year on year? can you provide some color on how much deliveries were down in bioethanol in q1 or q2 or year on year
Speaker 1: I could give you a percentage. I think it was about 30%. It was an extremely high delivery in the third quarter of last year. It's the highest delivery in one quarter that we ever had. This was really more a normal delivery quarter for bioethanol. It was just that it was so high in the third quarter last year. I could give you a percentage. i could give you a percentage I think it was about 30%. i think it was about 30% It was an extremely high delivery in the third quarter of last year. it was an extremely high delivery in the third quarter of last year It's the highest delivery in one quarter that we ever had. it's the highest delivery in one quarter that we ever had This was really more a normal delivery quarter for bioethanol. this was really more a normal delivery quarter for bioethanol It was just that it was so high in the third quarter last year. it was just that it was so high in the third quarter last year
Speaker 3: Thank you. One last for me. What do you expect in terms of mix in biosolutions in Q4 on the aggregate side? Thank you. thank you One last for me. one last for me What do you expect in terms of mix in biosolutions in Q4 on the aggregate side? what do you expect in terms of mix in biosolutions in q4 on the aggregate side
Speaker 2: We don't comment specifically on mix. We just give the volume range that we expect and average sales pricing to continue. I can say in general that we are positive to the development we're seeing in aggregate. As I said, it's the seventh consecutive quarter that we report growth in aggregate. The long-term picture for aggregate is something we're very positive about and that our portfolio fits very well with the needs of that market. We don't comment specifically on mix. we don't comment specifically on mix We just give the volume range that we expect and average sales pricing to continue. we just give the volume range that we expect and average sales pricing to continue I can say in general that we are positive to the development we're seeing in aggregate. i can say in general that we are positive to the development we're seeing in aggregate As I said, it's the seventh consecutive quarter that we report growth in aggregate. as i said it's the seventh consecutive quarter that we report growth in aggregate The long-term picture for aggregate is something we're very positive about and that our portfolio fits very well with the needs of that market. the long-term picture for aggregate is something we're very positive about and that our portfolio fits very well with the needs of that market
Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. thank you
Speaker 1: I think that was the final question today. I think that was the final question today. i think that was the final question today
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. yeah
Speaker 1: Thank you for your attention. Thank you for your attention. thank you for your attention
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thank you very much. thank you very much