Beijer Electronics Group — Call Transcript 2026

Welcome to Ependion Q1 Report 2026 presentation. During the Q&A session, participants are able to ask questions by dialing pound key five on their telephone keypad. Now I will hand the conference over to the speakers, President and CEO Jenny Sjödahl and EVP and CFO Joakim Laurén. Please go ahead. Thank you very much. Welcome everybody to this Q1 presentation for Ependion. The headline of this report is Record Order Intake and Strengthened Profitability, as you have seen. As usual, it is myself and Joakim Laurén in the call, and the agenda is similar to previous times even though we have changed the format of the presentation slightly. I will start by giving a general business update and also looking into the two business entities. Joakim will dive more into the financials. Finally, I will give some concluding notes and outlook. After that, we will open up for Q&A as usual. Summarizing the quarter, we have seen already in the fourth quarter of last year an increase in the activity level and increase in order intake, and we are very pleased to see that this quarter the activity level has strengthened further. We have an order intake increase of 41% to the record high level of SEK 778 million. I'm pleased to see that this is driven by strong bookings in both business entities across basically all our focus segments and all geographies. It's a broad uptick that we are seeing. Organically and in fixed currency, the increase is 32%. As you probably know, there is a lag in our business between order intake and sales normally. Sales increased by 10%, but organically it was flat. The book-to-bill ratio that already last quarter was way above one is now 1.3 for this quarter. You have probably noticed that we have changed our result measure to EBITDA. Our EBITDA strengthened to SEK 75 million and an EBITDA margin of 12.5% compared to a rather weak quarter last year, 9.7%. The free cash flow in the quarter negative, of course, that's not how we want it to be, but we do see a seasonal pattern in cash flow. The negative level was due to increased safety inventories and also some higher accounts receivable towards the end of the quarter. You have probably read in the papers there is a strained global supply situation, especially related to memory circuits driven by the AI boom that is driving up prices, and it's increasing lead times. We have full focus in both business entities, first of all on securing access to material but also of course offsetting the cost increases that we see due to this with price adjustments. We have done, as you all know, a lot of investments in recent years in both business entities in R&D with acquisitions with India establishment and so on. There is a really strong focus in across the organization now to really drive profitable growth based on these investments. Also, as everybody else is seeing, the geopolitical uncertainty remains. All right. Diving a little bit more into the two business entities. If we start with Westermo, we have a record high order intake with an increase of 57%, that is without any major project orders in the quarter, and it's driven by all our key segments, so train networks, track side, energy, and also defense. The development was particularly strong in the train segment, which is also Westermo's largest segment, as you might know. Sales at +21% driven by strong development of Welotec, and the book-to-bill in Westermo for the quarter is 1.28. Profitability-wise, we have a stable development, 16.6% on EBITDA level in the quarter. We were talking about the defense segment in the last report, and you know there is a decision for Westermo to really go after this segment now. There is a lot of initiatives going on in the quarter towards this new focus segment. We do see with the European increase in spend and the focus on finding regional strategic suppliers, there is an incoming interest from several players in this industry. We have discussions ongoing and activities ongoing, even though, of course, we know that, you know, creating business out of this is of course going to take some time. We also have some very well-known customers already in this industry. That is developing in a good way. Also the India market, very positive. The fact that we now have a strong local presence is very appreciated both by our existing global customers with the activities in India, but also, we see interest from local Indian players and new players as well. Positive development there, and we know that there is massive infrastructure investment happening in India, especially in metro expansions, in long distance trains, in freight locomotives and so on. The activity level is very high in India, so that's very good. The Welotec continues to develop very well as well. Also I can mention, and we mentioned that in the report, we have initiated a strategy update in the Westermo business entity, and that is really to set the stage basically for the next growth phase, looking at our segments, looking at our playing to win strategy, and also looking at our sales organization, how we can make sure that we have the most effective sales organization going forward. Okay, let's move into Beijer Electronics. I'm very pleased to see that with all the work that has been going on within Beijer Electronics, with the strategy that has been put in place and executed over the last years in a business environment that has been actually very challenging. I'm very pleased to see that now we are starting to see the results of that, and we see an order intake growth of 20%, driven on one hand by the marine segment with lots of activities with our customers there, but also a high demand from customers within EV charging, and also in a growing niche segment that we are seeing, which is data centers, where Beijer Electronics products are used for UPS equipment that is then used in data centers, particularly in the U.S. market. Sales-wise, we are at -6%. We have the last quarter now where we still had in the comparison quarter a small volume of phased out products, SEK 9 million. If we look at the currency adjusted in fixed currencies, the sales development was actually +2%. Book-to-bill at 1.33 for the quarter, quite strong, and the most important part here, of course, is that we see that the profitability has moved in the right direction for sure with the increased gross margins according to what we were expecting from the new strategy with a more focused portfolio, and we came out at 11.4% the EBITDA margin in the quarter. The next, the new generation of HMIs, the X3 family, we do see a lot of customer interest still, and that is really, really good. We have more than 200 customers now that have placed orders, and what I'm really pleased to see, and what we are also expected of course from this launch, is that some 20% of these are new customers, which is of course very promising as well. Beijer Electronics have also targeted the defense segment, and we have launched a version of X3 called now X3 Ultra towards the defense sector, where we have certified the, tested the product against military standards and are now talking to potential customers and also some existing customers in the defense sector as well. That was a summary of the two business entities. With that, Joakim, I will hand over to you. Thank you very much, Jenny. I will go into the financials. I will start with some words on orders and sales. As Jenny said, the orders were up 41%, the level SEK 778 million actually. That is an all-time high record level. We have never been on the SEK 700 before, SEK 700 million before, so it is something that we are very pleased to note. Organically, as Jenny said earlier, 32% up. The acquisition of Welotec is contributing 19%, and we have quite a strong headwind when it comes to FX that is impacting with minus 10%. Together that gives us the 41%. Sales, as Jenny pointed out, no big uptake on the sales level yet, so organically flat. Acquisition is adding then the 16%, and also here the headwind of FX is impacting -7%. If we look at sequentially, we do see a strengthened order intake also from the good quarter in Q4 last year. That was well above SEK 600 million, so we're up 22% compared to last quarter. Sales is also improving somewhat. If we look at the profitability, the improvement is then 2.8% points from the low level in Q1 last year, now to 12.5% for Q1 this year. The main background to this uptick is that we have a definitely better performance by Beijer Electronics, as Jenny Sjödahl pointed out before. Also the fact that Westermo is delivering on a stable level, being a larger part of the group now with the addition of Welotec. Two point, two folds on the profit increase, Beijer Electronics improvement and the fact that Westermo is the bigger part of the group. If we look at the income statement summary, we talked about the first two lines already. Should mention that in the quarter the impact of currency effects is negative, and it's impacting the EBITDA level with SEK 6.5 million. The main part of that is transactional variances. In between the EBITDA and EBIT, we have the depreciations and amortizations of excess values of, driven by the acquisitions. We had a larger impact of the Welotec acquisition already in Q4, and the level remains now in the first quarter this year. The EBITDA margin came in at 11.2% compared to the 9% in last year. There is a relatively big difference on the financial income and expenses line, and that is driven by currency effects on financial items. Net profit increased with 27% to SEK 40.5 million for the quarter, and the earnings per share is up 15% to SEK 1.26. If we look at then the cash flow, and Jenny Sjödahl pointed out that we have impacts of increased inventories related mainly to increased safety stocks for some of the components that we now see some turbulence in the market. We believe that it's important for us to secure our delivery of possibilities and therefore we have increased our safety stocks. That is impacting. Also our accounts receivables, phasing you could say. There is more of that by the end of the quarter. That gives us the minus SEK 9 million. However, if you look at the history, it is a seasonal pattern you could say. Last year we were around minus SEK 12. A negative start, but going forward, we are quite optimistic when it comes to the cash flow. When it comes to net debt EBITDA, we can conclude that we have a healthy balance sheet, and that provides confidence that we can continue the active M&A agenda that we are having in the group. That concludes the finance. Over to you, Jenny. Yeah. Thank you for that, Joakim. With that, I will try to summarize this and conclude the call. Again, the geopolitical uncertainty is bound to remain as it seems right now with potential impact on our business in the short term. It's really hard to predict right now what's going to happen, but that's how we see it. Very pleased to see an increasing activity level among our customers in all our key segments and across all our geographies. It's also very encouraging to see the improved profitability level in the first quarter. As I mentioned before, across our organizations, there is a very strong focus now on driving profitable growth based on the significant investments that we have made in recent years in the X3 series, in the Welotec acquisition, in the India establishment, and of course also the general R&D spend, the new product development that we are continuously doing in both business entities. As we have said before, medium and long term, we are confident about our ability to continue our profitable growth journey because the segments and areas that we are in, are driven by very clear global trends such as digitalization, electrification, sustainability and so on. Regardless of business conditions, we are of course committed to creating value regardless of the market conditions. All right. The financial targets. You have seen this before. The growth, we are targeting an organic growth level of at least 10%. That has been a struggle of course in the last years with the business conditions that we have seen. Now we are looking at a little bit more stronger market development going forward. Profitability level, the EBITDA measurement that we have now introduced should be at least 15%. We are moving towards that target now, and that's what we are, you know, committed to achieving going forward. We shall be a dividend paying company. When it comes to the outlook, as I said, we do operate in attractive markets with strong underlying growth over time, although it has been a bit sluggish in the last couple of years. Medium term, we do see a possibility, a good possibility to achieve both growth and profitability targets. Geopolitically, economically, the uncertainty will remain. We are cautiously optimistic regarding our development now in 2026. With that, we would like to open up for Q&A. If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key five on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key six on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Daniel Lindkvist from Danske Bank. Please go ahead. Hi. Just a few quick questions from my side. Congratulations to begin with on a really strong report in all senses. My main question is basically on the duration of the order book. If we look at Beijer Electronics and Welotec specifically, what can you say about the order book duration for those two entities? You wanna take that one, Joakim? Yeah. Hey, Daniel. Hey When it comes to Beijer Electronics, we have an order book on, of the level of one to up to three months, in the backlog normally. The orders that we have received, in general, I would say is within that range. We did write in the report that there is a small portion of the volume, of customers prolonging their order horizon. We mention in the report SEK 15 million, and that is related to some customers, placing orders that is longer than the horizon that I just said, with the ambition to secure their volumes, given the turbulence on the component side. When it comes to Welotec, they had a good quarter, and their position or their backlog is looking healthy for the targeted sales in 2026. Quite stable. A longer duration on the, on the Welotec order system. Say again. Say again. A long, a longer timeframe for the deliveries of the Welotec. They have a three-. backlog then. They have a three to six months backlog horizon in Welotec. Shorter typically than the average in Westermo, you can say, but still, quite reasonable. Perfect. I mean, we've gotten used to a bit of the fluctuations in the train orders, so really nice with this one, safeguarding quite some future then, I would guess. Was there something else to keep in mind with the order intake in Westermo this time around? I think what stood out was the strong order intake in the train segment. As we have been talking about before, there are quarters where we have very low bookings in the train segment, and there are quarters where we have strong bookings, and this was a particularly strong quarter. But what was encouraging to see is that it wasn't just that, it was also the energy segment picking up nicely, strong order bookings in Welotec, of course, contributing to that. Also, track side and to a smaller extent, of course, because it's still a small segment, also the defense sector increased. It was broad across all our key focus segments. Excellent. Just the final on Welotec, and then on Welotec combined with your energy offering. On Welotec, you had some postponements from Q4 into Q1. Should we expect that the full postponements was delivered in Q1? We had a little bit of delays, in Welotec in Q4. That's correct. All of that has been delivered now in Q4, Q1, so I don't expect any effect on Q2, so to say, in that sense. Perfect. Just the Welotec, you've discussed earlier that the Welotec acquisition has also strengthened your energy offering in Westermo. Could you elaborate on that and if that has any effect in this quarter? Yeah. I think it has had, it has not yet had a huge effect on, you know, our sales or even our order intake as such. As we know, there are long, relatively long business cycles in this industry so that the activities that we are doing now will typically result in orders in, you know, six to 12 months or even longer. What is very positive is to see how the teams are collaborating, how we are visiting customers together with a broader offering, using the relationships that Welotec came in with, very strong relationships with several large system integrators, also grid operators, both in Europe and outside of Europe. Also the Westermo relationships, how we can leverage from that combined, those combined customer relationships now in a much better way. I think the teams are collaborating extremely well and we see a lot of opportunities arising from that in the medium term. Perfect. Once again, congratulations on this report. Really strong data points in my view. I'll get back in line. Thank you. Thank you very much, Daniel. The next question comes from Markus Almerud from DNB Carnegie. Please go ahead. Yeah. Hi. Hi Jenny. Hi Joakim. It's Markus here from DNB Carnegie. My first question is on the train side. It sounds to me like when you're describing it that it's quite broad-based, there are no big orders which are driving this. Is it anything that any market customers et cetera that sticks out? Is it India which is driving it, or what do you say about underlying demand? Has demand changed, or is the strength just the normal course of business? I think it's several things. We are seeing India starting to contribute with new business, so to say, on the rail side, which is very positive and again, massive investments happening there. We are also seeing, you know, the projects are moving ahead in Europe and in other places. You can ask yourself, you know, what has happened because nothing has changed in terms of the geopolitical situation. I think that, you know, you can only push projects that long, so to say. At the end of the day, we still need infrastructure upgrades and so on and so forth. I think that is what we are seeing, that projects are finally moving ahead, getting financed, and that is driving the increased activity level that we are seeing. You wouldn't say. Because we know also that train orders are very bulky and have been very bulky, but it feels like this is more of a bigger movement, that it's kind of If you talk about projects which are moving ahead, that we're kind of reaching a new level, or it's catching up to demand. Is that the right interpretation, you think? Yeah, that is of course what we are hoping to see and what we are to some extent seeing now. But again, we know that the order intake in the rail segment, train segment can be quite bumpy from quarter to quarter. You need to look at it, you know, longer term, how it is kind of gradually increasing, you know, year by year rather than quarter by quarter. Follow-up on Daniel's question on the duration of the order book. The duration in Welotec is about three to six months, which is lower than the average investment. What would you say is the average investment length? 6 to 12 months, that is what we. Yeah, 6 months-12 months. Yeah. six to 12 months is you could say, the average. Perfect. On Welotec, how is integration in Welotec? I assume it's continuing well, but the cross-selling that you started to see some of, is that accelerating as well or is it moving along, yeah, what are you seeing in terms of cross-selling opportunities and progress? No, I definitely think that the cross-selling activities are increasing all the time as we get to know each other, as we, you know, start to figure out where we have customers in common and where we have, you know, customers that Welotec know well and customers that Westermo knows well. I think that the collaboration has been strengthening all along actually since the acquisition, since the closing in June of last year. I think that we are seeing that the Welotec offering to some extent when it comes to digitalizing substations is attractive to customers. It's a door opener to a larger extent actually than the networking equipment that Westermo originally was offering. It is clear that we now have a much stronger combined offering and a better way, an easier way, you know, into the big grid operators, for example, getting to the table and actually talking about the whole Westermo offering. Would you say it's a key factor to the energy segment growing nicely? Uh- Is it too early? I think it's a little bit too early to say. Of course, Welotec is, that was the whole idea actually of the acquisition, is adding nicely to that. I don't think that we have seen a big effect as of yet of the cross-selling because again, the business cycles are quite long. Customers need to test solutions and so on. It's looking positive. On the strategic update that you mentioned in Westermo, if I read you right, it is an offensive strategic review rather than to save cost. It's more of an offensive strategy, yes. Looking more on the front end side of things rather than the back end. In the back end when it comes to supply chain and all that, I think we have been doing and are doing quite a lot of activities to, you know, to optimize our footprint and so on. That's ongoing. This is more market front end looking for sure. Then on electronics and on the X3 orders, we talked about last quarter about most orders were still small, and they were mostly for evaluation purposes, and you hadn't really seen the volumes or volume orders taking off yet. Are we still there? We still no volume orders, but still the same kind of orders. I don't know. I think as we move along, you know, the customers that placed the orders early to test have now been placing, you know, larger orders, so that we can see that customers are moving towards, you know, replacing X2 or new customers starting to use X3 to some extent. Step by step we are seeing that pattern, so to say, as we move ahead here. I think the launch and the introduction of this product range is really going according to plan, I would say. Okay. Perfect. That's all for me right now. Thanks. Thank you, Markus. Thank you. As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key 5 on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Henrik Alveskog from Redeye AB. Please go ahead. Hello, well, congrats on the very strong numbers. First of all, I'm interested to hear if you have seen any, like, shift in market sentiment lately, considering what's happening in the Gulf, the Persian Gulf? If we have seen any effects from that? Well, yes, in terms of, I mean, you described basically the strong order bookings during the quarter, but considering how you usually refer to macroeconomic uncertainties and market hesitation, I'm interested to hear if you've seen that coming back a little bit now? Well, I think we can say that of course the war in the Gulf is not helping in any way because it's, you know, it's keeping the geopolitical uncertainty high. On the other hand, this has been the case now for quite some time, and despite that, we are seeing an increased activity level in basically all geographies and business segments. The Gulf crisis has not had any direct impact on our business. We do very little. We don't have any organizations in that area. We do very little business in general in that area. From that perspective, it's neutral for us at this point. However, of course, we are following the development, you know, when it comes to cost increases, and so on and so forth. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Great. Then just a couple questions on Beijer Electronics. You mentioned the charging infrastructure, as, well, one segment that has been positive for you lately. Is this relating to rollouts in specific countries, or is it, like, in general in several countries? We have a few customers that are delivering into their market. They are having a positive volume development, and the demand for our panels to them is increasing. On what particular markets they are successful, that is a bit uncertain for me, actually. They are active on a global market, actually. Yeah, Asian-based companies, active on a global market. Yeah. Okay. Then, well, the Beijer Electronics business in the U.S., I'm interested to hear if you. I mean, the industry there is, well, moving towards Buy American, Build American suppliers, and if you could just say something about that, how it possibly is affecting you, if you see anything that coming for those reasons. Also, you have said before that you have raised prices there to, well, mitigate the tariffs. Is that? Have you been able to compensate fully for the tariffs? Or, well, if you could elaborate a little bit on that. Mm-hmm. If we start with the tariffs, as you probably know, they are hitting the Beijer Electronics products, not Westermo. Beijer Electronics have, you know, right away, implemented price increases to mitigate that. We don't see any major pushback from our customers regarding that, and we don't see any effect either on our volume. I think that has worked quite well. When it comes to the Buy America impact, of course, this is a discussion that is coming up more and more, I would say, in discussing with the North American customers. So far there, you know, have been ways around it. With our customers, it hasn't been a big issue. It's not preventing us from selling in any way, but it is, of course, a factor that we are monitoring and looking at, to see if and when, you know, we need to do, take some measures, because of that. If that answered your question, Henrik. Hello? Maybe we lost, Henrik. Yeah, yeah. There are no more phone questions at this time, so I hand the conference back to the speakers for any written questions and closing comments. Yes. Thanks for that. We do have one written question here. How large is your data center business? Today it's actually a relatively small business, and it's Beijer Electronics that are one of their or a couple of their customers that are active in this industry. We all know that it's a growing industry, especially in the U.S., we see a big interest. We expect this business to grow going forward, and we can grow with our existing customers there. There are no more written questions. With that, we will conclude this call. Thank you all for listening in, and have a great evening. Thank you.

Speaker 6: Welcome to Ependion Q1 Report 2026 presentation. During the Q&A session, participants are able to ask questions by dialing pound key five on their telephone keypad. Now I will hand the conference over to the speakers, President and CEO Jenny Sjödahl and EVP and CFO Joakim Laurén. Please go ahead. Welcome to Ependion Q1 Report 2026 presentation. welcome to ependion q1 report 2026 presentation During the Q&A session, participants are able to ask questions by dialing pound key five on their telephone keypad. during the q&a session participants are able to ask questions by dialing pound key five on their telephone keypad Now I will hand the conference over to the speakers, President and CEO Jenny Sjödahl and EVP and CFO Joakim Laurén. now i will hand the conference over to the speakers president and ceo jenny sjödahl and evp and cfo joakim laurén Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Welcome everybody to this Q1 presentation for Ependion. The headline of this report is Record Order Intake and Strengthened Profitability, as you have seen. As usual, it is myself and Joakim Laurén in the call, and the agenda is similar to previous times even though we have changed the format of the presentation slightly. I will start by giving a general business update and also looking into the two business entities. Joakim will dive more into the financials. Finally, I will give some concluding notes and outlook. After that, we will open up for Q&A as usual. Thank you very much. thank you very much Welcome everybody to this Q1 presentation for Ependion. welcome everybody to this q1 presentation for ependion The headline of this report is Record Order Intake and Strengthened Profitability, as you have seen. the headline of this report is record order intake and strengthened profitability as you have seen As usual, it is myself and Joakim Laurén in the call, and the agenda is similar to previous times even though we have changed the format of the presentation slightly. as usual it is myself and joakim laurén in the call and the agenda is similar to previous times even though we have changed the format of the presentation slightly I will start by giving a general business update and also looking into the two business entities. i will start by giving a general business update and also looking into the two business entities Joakim will dive more into the financials. joakim will dive more into the financials Finally, I will give some concluding notes and outlook. finally i will give some concluding notes and outlook After that, we will open up for Q&A as usual. after that we will open up for q&a as usual Summarizing the quarter, we have seen already in the fourth quarter of last year an increase in the activity level and increase in order intake, and we are very pleased to see that this quarter the activity level has strengthened further. We have an order intake increase of 41% to the record high level of SEK 778 million. I'm pleased to see that this is driven by strong bookings in both business entities across basically all our focus segments and all geographies. It's a broad uptick that we are seeing. Organically and in fixed currency, the increase is 32%. As you probably know, there is a lag in our business between order intake and sales normally. Summarizing the quarter, we have seen already in the fourth quarter of last year an increase in the activity level and increase in order intake, and we are very pleased to see that this quarter the activity level has strengthened further. summarizing the quarter we have seen already in the fourth quarter of last year an increase in the activity level and increase in order intake and we are very pleased to see that this quarter the activity level has strengthened further We have an order intake increase of 41% to the record high level of SEK 778 million. we have an order intake increase of 41% to the record high level of sek 778 million I'm pleased to see that this is driven by strong bookings in both business entities across basically all our focus segments and all geographies. i'm pleased to see that this is driven by strong bookings in both business entities across basically all our focus segments and all geographies It's a broad uptick that we are seeing. it's a broad uptick that we are seeing Organically and in fixed currency, the increase is 32%. organically and in fixed currency the increase is 32% As you probably know, there is a lag in our business between order intake and sales normally. as you probably know there is a lag in our business between order intake and sales normally Sales increased by 10%, but organically it was flat. The book-to-bill ratio that already last quarter was way above one is now 1.3 for this quarter. You have probably noticed that we have changed our result measure to EBITDA. Our EBITDA strengthened to SEK 75 million and an EBITDA margin of 12.5% compared to a rather weak quarter last year, 9.7%. The free cash flow in the quarter negative, of course, that's not how we want it to be, but we do see a seasonal pattern in cash flow. The negative level was due to increased safety inventories and also some higher accounts receivable towards the end of the quarter. Sales increased by 10%, but organically it was flat. sales increased by 10% but organically it was flat The book-to-bill ratio that already last quarter was way above one is now 1.3 for this quarter. the book-to-bill ratio that already last quarter was way above one is now 1.3 for this quarter You have probably noticed that we have changed our result measure to EBITDA. you have probably noticed that we have changed our result measure to ebitda Our EBITDA strengthened to SEK 75 million and an EBITDA margin of 12.5% compared to a rather weak quarter last year, 9.7%. our ebitda strengthened to sek 75 million and an ebitda margin of 12.5% compared to a rather weak quarter last year 9.7% The free cash flow in the quarter negative, of course, that's not how we want it to be, but we do see a seasonal pattern in cash flow. the free cash flow in the quarter negative of course that's not how we want it to be but we do see a seasonal pattern in cash flow The negative level was due to increased safety inventories and also some higher accounts receivable towards the end of the quarter. the negative level was due to increased safety inventories and also some higher accounts receivable towards the end of the quarter You have probably read in the papers there is a strained global supply situation, especially related to memory circuits driven by the AI boom that is driving up prices, and it's increasing lead times. We have full focus in both business entities, first of all on securing access to material but also of course offsetting the cost increases that we see due to this with price adjustments. We have done, as you all know, a lot of investments in recent years in both business entities in R&D with acquisitions with India establishment and so on. There is a really strong focus in across the organization now to really drive profitable growth based on these investments. Also, as everybody else is seeing, the geopolitical uncertainty remains. All right. You have probably read in the papers there is a strained global supply situation, especially related to memory circuits driven by the AI boom that is driving up prices, and it's increasing lead times. you have probably read in the papers there is a strained global supply situation especially related to memory circuits driven by the ai boom that is driving up prices and it's increasing lead times We have full focus in both business entities, first of all on securing access to material but also of course offsetting the cost increases that we see due to this with price adjustments. we have full focus in both business entities first of all on securing access to material but also of course offsetting the cost increases that we see due to this with price adjustments We have done, as you all know, a lot of investments in recent years in both business entities in R&D with acquisitions with India establishment and so on. we have done as you all know a lot of investments in recent years in both business entities in r&d with acquisitions with india establishment and so on There is a really strong focus in across the organization now to really drive profitable growth based on these investments. there is a really strong focus in across the organization now to really drive profitable growth based on these investments Also, as everybody else is seeing, the geopolitical uncertainty remains. also as everybody else is seeing the geopolitical uncertainty remains All right. all right Diving a little bit more into the two business entities. If we start with Westermo, we have a record high order intake with an increase of 57%, that is without any major project orders in the quarter, and it's driven by all our key segments, so train networks, track side, energy, and also defense. The development was particularly strong in the train segment, which is also Westermo's largest segment, as you might know. Sales at +21% driven by strong development of Welotec, and the book-to-bill in Westermo for the quarter is 1.28. Profitability-wise, we have a stable development, 16.6% on EBITDA level in the quarter. Diving a little bit more into the two business entities. diving a little bit more into the two business entities If we start with Westermo, we have a record high order intake with an increase of 57%, that is without any major project orders in the quarter, and it's driven by all our key segments, so train networks, track side, energy, and also defense. if we start with westermo we have a record high order intake with an increase of 57% that is without any major project orders in the quarter and it's driven by all our key segments so train networks track side energy and also defense The development was particularly strong in the train segment, which is also Westermo's largest segment, as you might know. the development was particularly strong in the train segment which is also westermo's largest segment as you might know Sales at + 21% driven by strong development of Welotec, and the book-to-bill in Westermo for the quarter is 1.28. sales at + 21% driven by strong development of welotec and the book-to-bill in westermo for the quarter is 1.28 Profitability-wise, we have a stable development, 16.6% on EBITDA level in the quarter. profitability-wise we have a stable development 16.6% on ebitda level in the quarter We were talking about the defense segment in the last report, and you know there is a decision for Westermo to really go after this segment now. There is a lot of initiatives going on in the quarter towards this new focus segment. We do see with the European increase in spend and the focus on finding regional strategic suppliers, there is an incoming interest from several players in this industry. We have discussions ongoing and activities ongoing, even though, of course, we know that, you know, creating business out of this is of course going to take some time. We also have some very well-known customers already in this industry. That is developing in a good way. We were talking about the defense segment in the last report, and you know there is a decision for Westermo to really go after this segment now. we were talking about the defense segment in the last report and you know there is a decision for westermo to really go after this segment now There is a lot of initiatives going on in the quarter towards this new focus segment. there is a lot of initiatives going on in the quarter towards this new focus segment We do see with the European increase in spend and the focus on finding regional strategic suppliers, there is an incoming interest from several players in this industry. we do see with the european increase in spend and the focus on finding regional strategic suppliers there is an incoming interest from several players in this industry We have discussions ongoing and activities ongoing, even though, of course, we know that, you know, creating business out of this is of course going to take some time. we have discussions ongoing and activities ongoing even though of course we know that you know creating business out of this is of course going to take some time We also have some very well-known customers already in this industry. we also have some very well-known customers already in this industry That is developing in a good way. that is developing in a good way Also the India market, very positive. The fact that we now have a strong local presence is very appreciated both by our existing global customers with the activities in India, but also, we see interest from local Indian players and new players as well. Positive development there, and we know that there is massive infrastructure investment happening in India, especially in metro expansions, in long distance trains, in freight locomotives and so on. The activity level is very high in India, so that's very good. The Welotec continues to develop very well as well. Also the India market, very positive. also the india market very positive The fact that we now have a strong local presence is very appreciated both by our existing global customers with the activities in India, but also, we see interest from local Indian players and new players as well. the fact that we now have a strong local presence is very appreciated both by our existing global customers with the activities in india but also we see interest from local indian players and new players as well Positive development there, and we know that there is massive infrastructure investment happening in India, especially in metro expansions, in long distance trains, in freight locomotives and so on. positive development there and we know that there is massive infrastructure investment happening in india especially in metro expansions in long distance trains in freight locomotives and so on The activity level is very high in India, so that's very good. the activity level is very high in india so that's very good The Welotec continues to develop very well as well. the welotec continues to develop very well as well Also I can mention, and we mentioned that in the report, we have initiated a strategy update in the Westermo business entity, and that is really to set the stage basically for the next growth phase, looking at our segments, looking at our playing to win strategy, and also looking at our sales organization, how we can make sure that we have the most effective sales organization going forward. Okay, let's move into Beijer Electronics. I'm very pleased to see that with all the work that has been going on within Beijer Electronics, with the strategy that has been put in place and executed over the last years in a business environment that has been actually very challenging. Also I can mention, and we mentioned that in the report, we have initiated a strategy update in the Westermo business entity, and that is really to set the stage basically for the next growth phase, looking at our segments, looking at our playing to win strategy, and also looking at our sales organization, how we can make sure that we have the most effective sales organization going forward. also i can mention and we mentioned that in the report we have initiated a strategy update in the westermo business entity and that is really to set the stage basically for the next growth phase looking at our segments looking at our playing to win strategy and also looking at our sales organization how we can make sure that we have the most effective sales organization going forward Okay, let's move into Beijer Electronics. okay let's move into beijer electronics I'm very pleased to see that with all the work that has been going on within Beijer Electronics, with the strategy that has been put in place and executed over the last years in a business environment that has been actually very challenging. i'm very pleased to see that with all the work that has been going on within beijer electronics with the strategy that has been put in place and executed over the last years in a business environment that has been actually very challenging I'm very pleased to see that now we are starting to see the results of that, and we see an order intake growth of 20%, driven on one hand by the marine segment with lots of activities with our customers there, but also a high demand from customers within EV charging, and also in a growing niche segment that we are seeing, which is data centers, where Beijer Electronics products are used for UPS equipment that is then used in data centers, particularly in the U.S. market. Sales-wise, we are at -6%. We have the last quarter now where we still had in the comparison quarter a small volume of phased out products, SEK 9 million. I'm very pleased to see that now we are starting to see the results of that, and we see an order intake growth of 20%, driven on one hand by the marine segment with lots of activities with our customers there, but also a high demand from customers within EV charging, and also in a growing niche segment that we are seeing, which is data centers, where Beijer Electronics products are used for UPS equipment that is then used in data centers, particularly in the U.S. market. i'm very pleased to see that now we are starting to see the results of that and we see an order intake growth of 20% driven on one hand by the marine segment with lots of activities with our customers there but also a high demand from customers within ev charging and also in a growing niche segment that we are seeing which is data centers where beijer electronics products are used for ups equipment that is then used in data centers particularly in the u.s market Sales-wise, we are at - 6%. sales-wise we are at - 6% We have the last quarter now where we still had in the comparison quarter a small volume of phased out products, SEK 9 million . we have the last quarter now where we still had in the comparison quarter a small volume of phased out products sek 9 million If we look at the currency adjusted in fixed currencies, the sales development was actually +2%. Book-to-bill at 1.33 for the quarter, quite strong, and the most important part here, of course, is that we see that the profitability has moved in the right direction for sure with the increased gross margins according to what we were expecting from the new strategy with a more focused portfolio, and we came out at 11.4% the EBITDA margin in the quarter. The next, the new generation of HMIs, the X3 family, we do see a lot of customer interest still, and that is really, really good. If we look at the currency adjusted in fixed currencies, the sales development was actually +2%. if we look at the currency adjusted in fixed currencies the sales development was actually +2% Book-to-bill at 1.33 for the quarter, quite strong, and the most important part here, of course, is that we see that the profitability has moved in the right direction for sure with the increased gross margins according to what we were expecting from the new strategy with a more focused portfolio, and we came out at 11.4% the EBITDA margin in the quarter. book-to-bill at 1.33 for the quarter quite strong and the most important part here of course is that we see that the profitability has moved in the right direction for sure with the increased gross margins according to what we were expecting from the new strategy with a more focused portfolio and we came out at 11.4% the ebitda margin in the quarter The next, the new generation of HMIs, the X3 family, we do see a lot of customer interest still, and that is really, really good. the next the new generation of hmis the x3 family we do see a lot of customer interest still and that is really really good We have more than 200 customers now that have placed orders, and what I'm really pleased to see, and what we are also expected of course from this launch, is that some 20% of these are new customers, which is of course very promising as well. Beijer Electronics have also targeted the defense segment, and we have launched a version of X3 called now X3 Ultra towards the defense sector, where we have certified the, tested the product against military standards and are now talking to potential customers and also some existing customers in the defense sector as well. That was a summary of the two business entities. With that, Joakim, I will hand over to you. We have more than 200 customers now that have placed orders, and what I'm really pleased to see, and what we are also expected of course from this launch, is that some 20% of these are new customers, which is of course very promising as well. we have more than 200 customers now that have placed orders and what i'm really pleased to see and what we are also expected of course from this launch is that some 20% of these are new customers which is of course very promising as well Beijer Electronics have also targeted the defense segment, and we have launched a version of X3 called now X3 Ultra towards the defense sector, where we have certified the, tested the product against military standards and are now talking to potential customers and also some existing customers in the defense sector as well. beijer electronics have also targeted the defense segment and we have launched a version of x3 called now x3 ultra towards the defense sector where we have certified the tested the product against military standards and are now talking to potential customers and also some existing customers in the defense sector as well That was a summary of the two business entities. that was a summary of the two business entities With that, Joakim, I will hand over to you. with that joakim i will hand over to you

Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Jenny. I will go into the financials. I will start with some words on orders and sales. As Jenny said, the orders were up 41%, the level SEK 778 million actually. That is an all-time high record level. We have never been on the SEK 700 before, SEK 700 million before, so it is something that we are very pleased to note. Organically, as Jenny said earlier, 32% up. The acquisition of Welotec is contributing 19%, and we have quite a strong headwind when it comes to FX that is impacting with minus 10%. Together that gives us the 41%. Sales, as Jenny pointed out, no big uptake on the sales level yet, so organically flat. Acquisition is adding then the 16%, and also here the headwind of FX is impacting -7%. Thank you very much, Jenny. thank you very much jenny I will go into the financials. i will go into the financials I will start with some words on orders and sales. i will start with some words on orders and sales As Jenny said, the orders were up 41%, the level SEK 778 million actually. as jenny said the orders were up 41% the level sek 778 million actually That is an all-time high record level. that is an all-time high record level We have never been on the SEK 700 before, SEK 700 million before, so it is something that we are very pleased to note. we have never been on the sek 700 before, sek 700 million before so it is something that we are very pleased to note Organically, as Jenny said earlier, 32% up. organically as jenny said earlier 32% up The acquisition of Welotec is contributing 19%, and we have quite a strong headwind when it comes to FX that is impacting with minus 10%. the acquisition of welotec is contributing 19% and we have quite a strong headwind when it comes to fx that is impacting with minus 10% Together that gives us the 41%. together that gives us the 41% Sales, as Jenny pointed out, no big uptake on the sales level yet, so organically flat. sales as jenny pointed out no big uptake on the sales level yet so organically flat Acquisition is adding then the 16%, and also here the headwind of FX is impacting - 7%. acquisition is adding then the 16% and also here the headwind of fx is impacting - 7% If we look at sequentially, we do see a strengthened order intake also from the good quarter in Q4 last year. That was well above SEK 600 million, so we're up 22% compared to last quarter. Sales is also improving somewhat. If we look at the profitability, the improvement is then 2.8% points from the low level in Q1 last year, now to 12.5% for Q1 this year. The main background to this uptick is that we have a definitely better performance by Beijer Electronics, as Jenny Sjödahl pointed out before. Also the fact that Westermo is delivering on a stable level, being a larger part of the group now with the addition of Welotec. If we look at sequentially, we do see a strengthened order intake also from the good quarter in Q4 last year. if we look at sequentially we do see a strengthened order intake also from the good quarter in q4 last year That was well above SEK 600 million, so we're up 22% compared to last quarter. that was well above sek 600 million so we're up 22% compared to last quarter Sales is also improving somewhat. sales is also improving somewhat If we look at the profitability, the improvement is then 2.8% points from the low level in Q1 last year, now to 12.5% for Q1 this year. if we look at the profitability the improvement is then 2.8% points from the low level in q1 last year now to 12.5% for q1 this year The main background to this uptick is that we have a definitely better performance by Beijer Electronics, as Jenny Sjödahl pointed out before. the main background to this uptick is that we have a definitely better performance by beijer electronics as jenny sjödahl pointed out before Also the fact that Westermo is delivering on a stable level, being a larger part of the group now with the addition of Welotec. also the fact that westermo is delivering on a stable level being a larger part of the group now with the addition of welotec Two point, two folds on the profit increase, Beijer Electronics improvement and the fact that Westermo is the bigger part of the group. If we look at the income statement summary, we talked about the first two lines already. Should mention that in the quarter the impact of currency effects is negative, and it's impacting the EBITDA level with SEK 6.5 million. The main part of that is transactional variances. In between the EBITDA and EBIT, we have the depreciations and amortizations of excess values of, driven by the acquisitions. We had a larger impact of the Welotec acquisition already in Q4, and the level remains now in the first quarter this year. Two point, two folds on the profit increase, Beijer Electronics improvement and the fact that Westermo is the bigger part of the group. two point two folds on the profit increase beijer electronics improvement and the fact that westermo is the bigger part of the group If we look at the income statement summary, we talked about the first two lines already. if we look at the income statement summary we talked about the first two lines already Should mention that in the quarter the impact of currency effects is negative, and it's impacting the EBITDA level with SEK 6.5 million. should mention that in the quarter the impact of currency effects is negative and it's impacting the ebitda level with sek 6.5 million The main part of that is transactional variances. the main part of that is transactional variances In between the EBITDA and EBIT, we have the depreciations and amortizations of excess values of, driven by the acquisitions. in between the ebitda and ebit we have the depreciations and amortizations of excess values of driven by the acquisitions We had a larger impact of the Welotec acquisition already in Q4, and the level remains now in the first quarter this year. we had a larger impact of the welotec acquisition already in q4 and the level remains now in the first quarter this year The EBITDA margin came in at 11.2% compared to the 9% in last year. There is a relatively big difference on the financial income and expenses line, and that is driven by currency effects on financial items. Net profit increased with 27% to SEK 40.5 million for the quarter, and the earnings per share is up 15% to SEK 1.26. If we look at then the cash flow, and Jenny Sjödahl pointed out that we have impacts of increased inventories related mainly to increased safety stocks for some of the components that we now see some turbulence in the market. We believe that it's important for us to secure our delivery of possibilities and therefore we have increased our safety stocks. That is impacting. The EBITDA margin came in at 11.2% compared to the 9% in last year. the ebitda margin came in at 11.2% compared to the 9% in last year There is a relatively big difference on the financial income and expenses line, and that is driven by currency effects on financial items. there is a relatively big difference on the financial income and expenses line and that is driven by currency effects on financial items Net profit increased with 27% to SEK 40.5 million for the quarter, and the earnings per share is up 15% to SEK 1.26. net profit increased with 27% to sek 40.5 million for the quarter and the earnings per share is up 15% to sek 1.26 If we look at then the cash flow, and Jenny Sjödahl pointed out that we have impacts of increased inventories related mainly to increased safety stocks for some of the components that we now see some turbulence in the market. if we look at then the cash flow and jenny sjödahl pointed out that we have impacts of increased inventories related mainly to increased safety stocks for some of the components that we now see some turbulence in the market We believe that it's important for us to secure our delivery of possibilities and therefore we have increased our safety stocks. we believe that it's important for us to secure our delivery of possibilities and therefore we have increased our safety stocks That is impacting. that is impacting Also our accounts receivables, phasing you could say. There is more of that by the end of the quarter. That gives us the minus SEK 9 million. However, if you look at the history, it is a seasonal pattern you could say. Last year we were around minus SEK 12. A negative start, but going forward, we are quite optimistic when it comes to the cash flow. When it comes to net debt EBITDA, we can conclude that we have a healthy balance sheet, and that provides confidence that we can continue the active M&A agenda that we are having in the group. That concludes the finance. Over to you, Jenny. Also our accounts receivables, phasing you could say. also our accounts receivables phasing you could say There is more of that by the end of the quarter. there is more of that by the end of the quarter That gives us the minus SEK 9 million. that gives us the minus sek 9 million However, if you look at the history, it is a seasonal pattern you could say. however if you look at the history it is a seasonal pattern you could say Last year we were around minus SEK 12. last year we were around minus sek 12 A negative start, but going forward, we are quite optimistic when it comes to the cash flow. a negative start but going forward we are quite optimistic when it comes to the cash flow When it comes to net debt EBITDA, we can conclude that we have a healthy balance sheet, and that provides confidence that we can continue the active M&A agenda that we are having in the group. when it comes to net debt ebitda we can conclude that we have a healthy balance sheet and that provides confidence that we can continue the active m&a agenda that we are having in the group That concludes the finance. that concludes the finance Over to you, Jenny. over to you jenny

Speaker 3: Yeah. Thank you for that, Joakim. With that, I will try to summarize this and conclude the call. Again, the geopolitical uncertainty is bound to remain as it seems right now with potential impact on our business in the short term. It's really hard to predict right now what's going to happen, but that's how we see it. Very pleased to see an increasing activity level among our customers in all our key segments and across all our geographies. It's also very encouraging to see the improved profitability level in the first quarter. Yeah. yeah Thank you for that, Joakim. thank you for that joakim With that, I will try to summarize this and conclude the call. with that i will try to summarize this and conclude the call Again, the geopolitical uncertainty is bound to remain as it seems right now with potential impact on our business in the short term. again the geopolitical uncertainty is bound to remain as it seems right now with potential impact on our business in the short term It's really hard to predict right now what's going to happen, but that's how we see it. it's really hard to predict right now what's going to happen but that's how we see it Very pleased to see an increasing activity level among our customers in all our key segments and across all our geographies. very pleased to see an increasing activity level among our customers in all our key segments and across all our geographies It's also very encouraging to see the improved profitability level in the first quarter. it's also very encouraging to see the improved profitability level in the first quarter As I mentioned before, across our organizations, there is a very strong focus now on driving profitable growth based on the significant investments that we have made in recent years in the X3 series, in the Welotec acquisition, in the India establishment, and of course also the general R&D spend, the new product development that we are continuously doing in both business entities. As we have said before, medium and long term, we are confident about our ability to continue our profitable growth journey because the segments and areas that we are in, are driven by very clear global trends such as digitalization, electrification, sustainability and so on. Regardless of business conditions, we are of course committed to creating value regardless of the market conditions. All right. As I mentioned before, across our organizations, there is a very strong focus now on driving profitable growth based on the significant investments that we have made in recent years in the X3 series, in the Welotec acquisition, in the India establishment, and of course also the general R&D spend, the new product development that we are continuously doing in both business entities. as i mentioned before across our organizations there is a very strong focus now on driving profitable growth based on the significant investments that we have made in recent years in the x3 series in the welotec acquisition in the india establishment and of course also the general r&d spend the new product development that we are continuously doing in both business entities As we have said before, medium and long term, we are confident about our ability to continue our profitable growth journey because the segments and areas that we are in, are driven by very clear global trends such as digitalization, electrification, sustainability and so on. as we have said before medium and long term we are confident about our ability to continue our profitable growth journey because the segments and areas that we are in are driven by very clear global trends such as digitalization electrification sustainability and so on Regardless of business conditions, we are of course committed to creating value regardless of the market conditions. regardless of business conditions we are of course committed to creating value regardless of the market conditions All right. all right The financial targets. You have seen this before. The growth, we are targeting an organic growth level of at least 10%. That has been a struggle of course in the last years with the business conditions that we have seen. Now we are looking at a little bit more stronger market development going forward. Profitability level, the EBITDA measurement that we have now introduced should be at least 15%. We are moving towards that target now, and that's what we are, you know, committed to achieving going forward. We shall be a dividend paying company. When it comes to the outlook, as I said, we do operate in attractive markets with strong underlying growth over time, although it has been a bit sluggish in the last couple of years. The financial targets. the financial targets You have seen this before. you have seen this before The growth, we are targeting an organic growth level of at least 10%. the growth we are targeting an organic growth level of at least 10% That has been a struggle of course in the last years with the business conditions that we have seen. that has been a struggle of course in the last years with the business conditions that we have seen Now we are looking at a little bit more stronger market development going forward. now we are looking at a little bit more stronger market development going forward Profitability level, the EBITDA measurement that we have now introduced should be at least 15%. profitability level the ebitda measurement that we have now introduced should be at least 15% We are moving towards that target now, and that's what we are, you know, committed to achieving going forward. we are moving towards that target now and that's what we are you know committed to achieving going forward We shall be a dividend paying company. When it comes to the outlook, as I said, we do operate in attractive markets with strong underlying growth over time, although it has been a bit sluggish in the last couple of years. we shall be a dividend paying company. when it comes to the outlook as i said we do operate in attractive markets with strong underlying growth over time although it has been a bit sluggish in the last couple of years Medium term, we do see a possibility, a good possibility to achieve both growth and profitability targets. Geopolitically, economically, the uncertainty will remain. We are cautiously optimistic regarding our development now in 2026. With that, we would like to open up for Q&A. Medium term, we do see a possibility, a good possibility to achieve both growth and profitability targets. medium term we do see a possibility a good possibility to achieve both growth and profitability targets Geopolitically, economically, the uncertainty will remain. geopolitically economically the uncertainty will remain We are cautiously optimistic regarding our development now in 2026. we are cautiously optimistic regarding our development now in 2026 With that, we would like to open up for Q&A. with that we would like to open up for q&a

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Speaker 1: Hi. Just a few quick questions from my side. Congratulations to begin with on a really strong report in all senses. My main question is basically on the duration of the order book. If we look at Beijer Electronics and Welotec specifically, what can you say about the order book duration for those two entities? Hi. hi Just a few quick questions from my side. just a few quick questions from my side Congratulations to begin with on a really strong report in all senses. congratulations to begin with on a really strong report in all senses My main question is basically on the duration of the order book. my main question is basically on the duration of the order book If we look at Beijer Electronics and Welotec specifically, what can you say about the order book duration for those two entities? if we look at beijer electronics and welotec specifically what can you say about the order book duration for those two entities

Speaker 3: You wanna take that one, Joakim? You wanna take that one, Joakim? you wanna take that one joakim

Speaker 4: Yeah. Hey, Daniel. Yeah. yeah Hey, Daniel. hey daniel

Speaker 1: Hey Hey hey

Speaker 4: When it comes to Beijer Electronics, we have an order book on, of the level of one to up to three months, in the backlog normally. The orders that we have received, in general, I would say is within that range. We did write in the report that there is a small portion of the volume, of customers prolonging their order horizon. We mention in the report SEK 15 million, and that is related to some customers, placing orders that is longer than the horizon that I just said, with the ambition to secure their volumes, given the turbulence on the component side. When it comes to Beijer Electronics, we have an order book on, of the level of one to up to three months, in the backlog normally. when it comes to beijer electronics we have an order book on of the level of one to up to three months in the backlog normally The orders that we have received, in general, I would say is within that range. the orders that we have received in general i would say is within that range We did write in the report that there is a small portion of the volume, of customers prolonging their order horizon. we did write in the report that there is a small portion of the volume of customers prolonging their order horizon We mention in the report SEK 15 million, and that is related to some customers, placing orders that is longer than the horizon that I just said, with the ambition to secure their volumes, given the turbulence on the component side. we mention in the report sek 15 million and that is related to some customers placing orders that is longer than the horizon that i just said with the ambition to secure their volumes given the turbulence on the component side When it comes to Welotec, they had a good quarter, and their position or their backlog is looking healthy for the targeted sales in 2026. Quite stable. When it comes to Welotec, they had a good quarter, and their position or their backlog is looking healthy for the targeted sales in 2026. when it comes to welotec they had a good quarter and their position or their backlog is looking healthy for the targeted sales in 2026 Quite stable. quite stable

Speaker 1: A longer duration on the, on the Welotec order system. A longer duration on the, on the Welotec order system. a longer duration on the on the welotec order system

Speaker 4: Say again. Say again. Say again. say again Say again. say again

Speaker 1: A long, a longer timeframe for the deliveries of the Welotec. A long, a longer timeframe for the deliveries of the Welotec. a long a longer timeframe for the deliveries of the welotec

Speaker 4: They have a three-. They have a three-. they have a three-

Speaker 1: backlog then. backlog then. backlog then

Speaker 4: They have a three to six months backlog horizon in Welotec. They have a three to six months backlog horizon in Welotec. they have a three to six months backlog horizon in welotec

Speaker 3: Shorter typically than the average in Westermo, you can say, but still, quite reasonable. Shorter typically than the average in Westermo, you can say, but still, quite reasonable. shorter typically than the average in westermo you can say but still quite reasonable

Speaker 1: Perfect. I mean, we've gotten used to a bit of the fluctuations in the train orders, so really nice with this one, safeguarding quite some future then, I would guess. Was there something else to keep in mind with the order intake in Westermo this time around? Perfect. perfect I mean, we've gotten used to a bit of the fluctuations in the train orders, so really nice with this one, safeguarding quite some future then, I would guess. i mean we've gotten used to a bit of the fluctuations in the train orders so really nice with this one safeguarding quite some future then i would guess Was there something else to keep in mind with the order intake in Westermo this time around? was there something else to keep in mind with the order intake in westermo this time around

Speaker 3: I think what stood out was the strong order intake in the train segment. As we have been talking about before, there are quarters where we have very low bookings in the train segment, and there are quarters where we have strong bookings, and this was a particularly strong quarter. But what was encouraging to see is that it wasn't just that, it was also the energy segment picking up nicely, strong order bookings in Welotec, of course, contributing to that. Also, track side and to a smaller extent, of course, because it's still a small segment, also the defense sector increased. It was broad across all our key focus segments. I think what stood out was the strong order intake in the train segment. i think what stood out was the strong order intake in the train segment As we have been talking about before, there are quarters where we have very low bookings in the train segment, and there are quarters where we have strong bookings, and this was a particularly strong quarter. as we have been talking about before there are quarters where we have very low bookings in the train segment and there are quarters where we have strong bookings and this was a particularly strong quarter But what was encouraging to see is that it wasn't just that, it was also the energy segment picking up nicely, strong order bookings in Welotec, of course, contributing to that. but what was encouraging to see is that it wasn't just that it was also the energy segment picking up nicely strong order bookings in welotec of course contributing to that Also, track side and to a smaller extent, of course, because it's still a small segment, also the defense sector increased. also track side and to a smaller extent of course because it's still a small segment also the defense sector increased It was broad across all our key focus segments. it was broad across all our key focus segments

Speaker 1: Excellent. Just the final on Welotec, and then on Welotec combined with your energy offering. On Welotec, you had some postponements from Q4 into Q1. Should we expect that the full postponements was delivered in Q1? Excellent. excellent Just the final on Welotec, and then on Welotec combined with your energy offering. just the final on welotec and then on welotec combined with your energy offering On Welotec, you had some postponements from Q4 into Q1. on welotec you had some postponements from q4 into q1 Should we expect that the full postponements was delivered in Q1? should we expect that the full postponements was delivered in q1

Speaker 3: We had a little bit of delays, in Welotec in Q4. That's correct. All of that has been delivered now in Q4, Q1, so I don't expect any effect on Q2, so to say, in that sense. We had a little bit of delays, in Welotec in Q4. we had a little bit of delays in welotec in q4 That's correct. that's correct All of that has been delivered now in Q4, Q1, so I don't expect any effect on Q2, so to say, in that sense. all of that has been delivered now in q4 q1 so i don't expect any effect on q2 so to say in that sense

Speaker 1: Perfect. Just the Welotec, you've discussed earlier that the Welotec acquisition has also strengthened your energy offering in Westermo. Could you elaborate on that and if that has any effect in this quarter? Perfect. perfect Just the Welotec, you've discussed earlier that the Welotec acquisition has also strengthened your energy offering in Westermo. just the welotec you've discussed earlier that the welotec acquisition has also strengthened your energy offering in westermo Could you elaborate on that and if that has any effect in this quarter? could you elaborate on that and if that has any effect in this quarter

Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it has had, it has not yet had a huge effect on, you know, our sales or even our order intake as such. As we know, there are long, relatively long business cycles in this industry so that the activities that we are doing now will typically result in orders in, you know, six to 12 months or even longer. What is very positive is to see how the teams are collaborating, how we are visiting customers together with a broader offering, using the relationships that Welotec came in with, very strong relationships with several large system integrators, also grid operators, both in Europe and outside of Europe. Yeah. yeah I think it has had, it has not yet had a huge effect on, you know, our sales or even our order intake as such. i think it has had it has not yet had a huge effect on you know our sales or even our order intake as such As we know, there are long, relatively long business cycles in this industry so that the activities that we are doing now will typically result in orders in, you know, six to 12 months or even longer. as we know there are long relatively long business cycles in this industry so that the activities that we are doing now will typically result in orders in you know six to 12 months or even longer What is very positive is to see how the teams are collaborating, how we are visiting customers together with a broader offering, using the relationships that Welotec came in with, very strong relationships with several large system integrators, also grid operators, both in Europe and outside of Europe. what is very positive is to see how the teams are collaborating how we are visiting customers together with a broader offering using the relationships that welotec came in with very strong relationships with several large system integrators also grid operators both in europe and outside of europe Also the Westermo relationships, how we can leverage from that combined, those combined customer relationships now in a much better way. I think the teams are collaborating extremely well and we see a lot of opportunities arising from that in the medium term. Also the Westermo relationships, how we can leverage from that combined, those combined customer relationships now in a much better way. also the westermo relationships how we can leverage from that combined those combined customer relationships now in a much better way I think the teams are collaborating extremely well and we see a lot of opportunities arising from that in the medium term. i think the teams are collaborating extremely well and we see a lot of opportunities arising from that in the medium term

Speaker 1: Perfect. Once again, congratulations on this report. Really strong data points in my view. I'll get back in line. Thank you. Perfect. perfect Once again, congratulations on this report. once again congratulations on this report Really strong data points in my view. really strong data points in my view I'll get back in line. i'll get back in line Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Daniel. Thank you very much, Daniel. thank you very much daniel

Speaker 6: The next question comes from Markus Almerud from DNB Carnegie. Please go ahead. The next question comes from Markus Almerud from DNB Carnegie. the next question comes from markus almerud from dnb carnegie Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 5: Yeah. Hi. Hi Jenny. Hi Joakim. It's Markus here from DNB Carnegie. My first question is on the train side. It sounds to me like when you're describing it that it's quite broad-based, there are no big orders which are driving this. Is it anything that any market customers et cetera that sticks out? Is it India which is driving it, or what do you say about underlying demand? Has demand changed, or is the strength just the normal course of business? Yeah. yeah Hi. hi Hi Jenny. hi jenny Hi Joakim. hi joakim It's Markus here from DNB Carnegie. it's markus here from dnb carnegie My first question is on the train side. my first question is on the train side It sounds to me like when you're describing it that it's quite broad-based, there are no big orders which are driving this. it sounds to me like when you're describing it that it's quite broad-based there are no big orders which are driving this Is it anything that any market customers et cetera that sticks out? is it anything that any market customers et cetera that sticks out Is it India which is driving it, or what do you say about underlying demand? is it india which is driving it or what do you say about underlying demand Has demand changed, or is the strength just the normal course of business? has demand changed or is the strength just the normal course of business

Speaker 3: I think it's several things. We are seeing India starting to contribute with new business, so to say, on the rail side, which is very positive and again, massive investments happening there. We are also seeing, you know, the projects are moving ahead in Europe and in other places. You can ask yourself, you know, what has happened because nothing has changed in terms of the geopolitical situation. I think that, you know, you can only push projects that long, so to say. At the end of the day, we still need infrastructure upgrades and so on and so forth. I think it's several things. i think it's several things We are seeing India starting to contribute with new business, so to say, on the rail side, which is very positive and again, massive investments happening there. we are seeing india starting to contribute with new business so to say on the rail side which is very positive and again massive investments happening there We are also seeing, you know, the projects are moving ahead in Europe and in other places. we are also seeing you know the projects are moving ahead in europe and in other places You can ask yourself, you know, what has happened because nothing has changed in terms of the geopolitical situation. you can ask yourself you know what has happened because nothing has changed in terms of the geopolitical situation I think that, you know, you can only push projects that long, so to say. i think that you know you can only push projects that long so to say At the end of the day, we still need infrastructure upgrades and so on and so forth. at the end of the day we still need infrastructure upgrades and so on and so forth I think that is what we are seeing, that projects are finally moving ahead, getting financed, and that is driving the increased activity level that we are seeing. I think that is what we are seeing, that projects are finally moving ahead, getting financed, and that is driving the increased activity level that we are seeing. i think that is what we are seeing that projects are finally moving ahead getting financed and that is driving the increased activity level that we are seeing

Speaker 5: You wouldn't say. Because we know also that train orders are very bulky and have been very bulky, but it feels like this is more of a bigger movement, that it's kind of If you talk about projects which are moving ahead, that we're kind of reaching a new level, or it's catching up to demand. Is that the right interpretation, you think? You wouldn't say. you wouldn't say Because we know also that train orders are very bulky and have been very bulky, but it feels like this is more of a bigger movement, that it's kind of If you talk about projects which are moving ahead, that we're kind of reaching a new level, or it's catching up to demand. because we know also that train orders are very bulky and have been very bulky but it feels like this is more of a bigger movement that it's kind of if you talk about projects which are moving ahead that we're kind of reaching a new level or it's catching up to demand Is that the right interpretation, you think? is that the right interpretation you think

Speaker 3: Yeah, that is of course what we are hoping to see and what we are to some extent seeing now. But again, we know that the order intake in the rail segment, train segment can be quite bumpy from quarter to quarter. You need to look at it, you know, longer term, how it is kind of gradually increasing, you know, year by year rather than quarter by quarter. Yeah, that is of course what we are hoping to see and what we are to some extent seeing now. yeah that is of course what we are hoping to see and what we are to some extent seeing now But again, we know that the order intake in the rail segment, train segment can be quite bumpy from quarter to quarter. but again we know that the order intake in the rail segment train segment can be quite bumpy from quarter to quarter You need to look at it, you know, longer term, how it is kind of gradually increasing, you know, year by year rather than quarter by quarter. you need to look at it you know longer term how it is kind of gradually increasing you know year by year rather than quarter by quarter

Speaker 5: Follow-up on Daniel's question on the duration of the order book. The duration in Welotec is about three to six months, which is lower than the average investment. What would you say is the average investment length? Follow-up on Daniel's question on the duration of the order book. follow-up on daniel's question on the duration of the order book The duration in Welotec is about three to six months, which is lower than the average investment. the duration in welotec is about three to six months which is lower than the average investment What would you say is the average investment length? what would you say is the average investment length

Speaker 4: 6 to 12 months, that is what we. 6 to 12 months, that is what we. 6 to 12 months that is what we

Speaker 3: Yeah, 6 months-12 months. Yeah, 6 months-12 months. yeah 6 months-12 months

Speaker 4: Yeah. six to 12 months is you could say, the average. Yeah. six to 12 months is you could say, the average. yeah six to 12 months is you could say the average

Speaker 5: Perfect. On Welotec, how is integration in Welotec? I assume it's continuing well, but the cross-selling that you started to see some of, is that accelerating as well or is it moving along, yeah, what are you seeing in terms of cross-selling opportunities and progress? Perfect. perfect On Welotec, how is integration in Welotec? on welotec how is integration in welotec I assume it's continuing well, but the cross-selling that you started to see some of, is that accelerating as well or is it moving along, yeah, what are you seeing in terms of cross-selling opportunities and progress? i assume it's continuing well but the cross-selling that you started to see some of is that accelerating as well or is it moving along yeah what are you seeing in terms of cross-selling opportunities and progress

Speaker 3: No, I definitely think that the cross-selling activities are increasing all the time as we get to know each other, as we, you know, start to figure out where we have customers in common and where we have, you know, customers that Welotec know well and customers that Westermo knows well. I think that the collaboration has been strengthening all along actually since the acquisition, since the closing in June of last year. I think that we are seeing that the Welotec offering to some extent when it comes to digitalizing substations is attractive to customers. It's a door opener to a larger extent actually than the networking equipment that Westermo originally was offering. No, I definitely think that the cross-selling activities are increasing all the time as we get to know each other, as we, you know, start to figure out where we have customers in common and where we have, you know, customers that Welotec know well and customers that Westermo knows well. no i definitely think that the cross-selling activities are increasing all the time as we get to know each other as we you know start to figure out where we have customers in common and where we have you know customers that welotec know well and customers that westermo knows well I think that the collaboration has been strengthening all along actually since the acquisition, since the closing in June of last year. i think that the collaboration has been strengthening all along actually since the acquisition since the closing in june of last year I think that we are seeing that the Welotec offering to some extent when it comes to digitalizing substations is attractive to customers. i think that we are seeing that the welotec offering to some extent when it comes to digitalizing substations is attractive to customers It's a door opener to a larger extent actually than the networking equipment that Westermo originally was offering. it's a door opener to a larger extent actually than the networking equipment that westermo originally was offering It is clear that we now have a much stronger combined offering and a better way, an easier way, you know, into the big grid operators, for example, getting to the table and actually talking about the whole Westermo offering. It is clear that we now have a much stronger combined offering and a better way, an easier way, you know, into the big grid operators, for example, getting to the table and actually talking about the whole Westermo offering. it is clear that we now have a much stronger combined offering and a better way an easier way you know into the big grid operators for example getting to the table and actually talking about the whole westermo offering

Speaker 5: Would you say it's a key factor to the energy segment growing nicely? Would you say it's a key factor to the energy segment growing nicely? would you say it's a key factor to the energy segment growing nicely

Speaker 3: Uh- Uh- uh-

Speaker 5: Is it too early? Is it too early? is it too early

Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit too early to say. Of course, Welotec is, that was the whole idea actually of the acquisition, is adding nicely to that. I don't think that we have seen a big effect as of yet of the cross-selling because again, the business cycles are quite long. Customers need to test solutions and so on. It's looking positive. I think it's a little bit too early to say. i think it's a little bit too early to say Of course, Welotec is, that was the whole idea actually of the acquisition, is adding nicely to that. of course welotec is that was the whole idea actually of the acquisition is adding nicely to that I don't think that we have seen a big effect as of yet of the cross-selling because again, the business cycles are quite long. i don't think that we have seen a big effect as of yet of the cross-selling because again the business cycles are quite long Customers need to test solutions and so on. customers need to test solutions and so on It's looking positive. it's looking positive

Speaker 5: On the strategic update that you mentioned in Westermo, if I read you right, it is an offensive strategic review rather than to save cost. On the strategic update that you mentioned in Westermo, if I read you right, it is an offensive strategic review rather than to save cost. on the strategic update that you mentioned in westermo if i read you right it is an offensive strategic review rather than to save cost

Speaker 3: It's more of an offensive strategy, yes. Looking more on the front end side of things rather than the back end. In the back end when it comes to supply chain and all that, I think we have been doing and are doing quite a lot of activities to, you know, to optimize our footprint and so on. That's ongoing. This is more market front end looking for sure. It's more of an offensive strategy, yes. it's more of an offensive strategy yes Looking more on the front end side of things rather than the back end. looking more on the front end side of things rather than the back end In the back end when it comes to supply chain and all that, I think we have been doing and are doing quite a lot of activities to, you know, to optimize our footprint and so on. in the back end when it comes to supply chain and all that i think we have been doing and are doing quite a lot of activities to you know to optimize our footprint and so on That's ongoing. that's ongoing This is more market front end looking for sure. this is more market front end looking for sure

Speaker 5: Then on electronics and on the X3 orders, we talked about last quarter about most orders were still small, and they were mostly for evaluation purposes, and you hadn't really seen the volumes or volume orders taking off yet. Are we still there? We still no volume orders, but still the same kind of orders. Then on electronics and on the X3 orders, we talked about last quarter about most orders were still small, and they were mostly for evaluation purposes, and you hadn't really seen the volumes or volume orders taking off yet. then on electronics and on the x3 orders we talked about last quarter about most orders were still small and they were mostly for evaluation purposes and you hadn't really seen the volumes or volume orders taking off yet Are we still there? are we still there We still no volume orders, but still the same kind of orders. we still no volume orders but still the same kind of orders

Speaker 3: I don't know. I think as we move along, you know, the customers that placed the orders early to test have now been placing, you know, larger orders, so that we can see that customers are moving towards, you know, replacing X2 or new customers starting to use X3 to some extent. Step by step we are seeing that pattern, so to say, as we move ahead here. I think the launch and the introduction of this product range is really going according to plan, I would say. I don't know. i don't know i I think as we move along, you know, the customers that placed the orders early to test have now been placing, you know, larger orders, so that we can see that customers are moving towards, you know, replacing X2 or new customers starting to use X3 to some extent. don't know i think as we move along you know the customers that placed the orders early to test have now been placing you know larger orders so that we can see that customers are moving towards you know replacing x2 or new customers starting to use x3 to some extent Step by step we are seeing that pattern, so to say, as we move ahead here. step by step we are seeing that pattern so to say as we move ahead here I think the launch and the introduction of this product range is really going according to plan, I would say. i think the launch and the introduction of this product range is really going according to plan i would say

Speaker 5: Okay. Perfect. That's all for me right now. Thanks. Okay. okay Perfect. perfect That's all for me right now. that's all for me right now Thanks. thanks

Speaker 3: Thank you, Markus. Thank you, Markus. thank you markus

Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

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Speaker 2: Hello, well, congrats on the very strong numbers. First of all, I'm interested to hear if you have seen any, like, shift in market sentiment lately, considering what's happening in the Gulf, the Persian Gulf? Hello, well, congrats on the very strong numbers. hello well congrats on the very strong numbers First of all, I'm interested to hear if you have seen any, like, shift in market sentiment lately, considering what's happening in the Gulf, the Persian Gulf? first of all i'm interested to hear if you have seen any like shift in market sentiment lately considering what's happening in the gulf the persian gulf

Speaker 3: If we have seen any effects from that? If we have seen any effects from that? if we have seen any effects from that

Speaker 2: Well, yes, in terms of, I mean, you described basically the strong order bookings during the quarter, but considering how you usually refer to macroeconomic uncertainties and market hesitation, I'm interested to hear if you've seen that coming back a little bit now? Well, yes, in terms of, I mean, you described basically the strong order bookings during the quarter, but considering how you usually refer to macroeconomic uncertainties and market hesitation, I'm interested to hear if you've seen that coming back a little bit now? well yes in terms of i mean you described basically the strong order bookings during the quarter but considering how you usually refer to macroeconomic uncertainties and market hesitation i'm interested to hear if you've seen that coming back a little bit now

Speaker 3: Well, I think we can say that of course the war in the Gulf is not helping in any way because it's, you know, it's keeping the geopolitical uncertainty high. On the other hand, this has been the case now for quite some time, and despite that, we are seeing an increased activity level in basically all geographies and business segments. The Gulf crisis has not had any direct impact on our business. We do very little. We don't have any organizations in that area. We do very little business in general in that area. From that perspective, it's neutral for us at this point. Well, I think we can say that of course the war in the Gulf is not helping in any way because it's, you know, it's keeping the geopolitical uncertainty high. well i think we can say that of course the war in the gulf is not helping in any way because it's you know it's keeping the geopolitical uncertainty high On the other hand, this has been the case now for quite some time, and despite that, we are seeing an increased activity level in basically all geographies and business segments. on the other hand this has been the case now for quite some time and despite that we are seeing an increased activity level in basically all geographies and business segments The Gulf crisis has not had any direct impact on our business. the gulf crisis has not had any direct impact on our business We do very little. we do very little We don't have any organizations in that area. we don't have any organizations in that area We do very little business in general in that area. we do very little business in general in that area From that perspective, it's neutral for us at this point. from that perspective it's neutral for us at this point However, of course, we are following the development, you know, when it comes to cost increases, and so on and so forth. However, of course, we are following the development, you know, when it comes to cost increases, and so on and so forth. however of course we are following the development you know when it comes to cost increases and so on and so forth

Speaker 2: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Great. Then just a couple questions on Beijer Electronics. You mentioned the charging infrastructure, as, well, one segment that has been positive for you lately. Is this relating to rollouts in specific countries, or is it, like, in general in several countries? Yeah. yeah Mm-hmm. mm-hmm Great. great Then just a couple questions on Beijer Electronics. then just a couple questions on beijer electronics You mentioned the charging infrastructure, as, well, one segment that has been positive for you lately. you mentioned the charging infrastructure as well one segment that has been positive for you lately Is this relating to rollouts in specific countries, or is it, like, in general in several countries? is this relating to rollouts in specific countries or is it like in general in several countries

Speaker 4: We have a few customers that are delivering into their market. They are having a positive volume development, and the demand for our panels to them is increasing. On what particular markets they are successful, that is a bit uncertain for me, actually. We have a few customers that are delivering into their market. we have a few customers that are delivering into their market They are having a positive volume development, and the demand for our panels to them is increasing. they are having a positive volume development and the demand for our panels to them is increasing On what particular markets they are successful, that is a bit uncertain for me, actually. on what particular markets they are successful that is a bit uncertain for me actually

Speaker 3: They are active on a global market, actually. Yeah, Asian-based companies, active on a global market. They are active on a global market, actually. they are active on a global market actually Yeah, Asian-based companies, active on a global market. yeah asian-based companies active on a global market

Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Then, well, the Beijer Electronics business in the U.S., I'm interested to hear if you. I mean, the industry there is, well, moving towards Buy American, Build American suppliers, and if you could just say something about that, how it possibly is affecting you, if you see anything that coming for those reasons. Also, you have said before that you have raised prices there to, well, mitigate the tariffs. Is that? Have you been able to compensate fully for the tariffs? Or, well, if you could elaborate a little bit on that. Yeah. yeah Okay. okay Then, well, the Beijer Electronics business in the U.S., I'm interested to hear if you. then well the beijer electronics business in the u.s i'm interested to hear if you I mean, the industry there is, well, moving towards Buy American, Build American suppliers, and if you could just say something about that, how it possibly is affecting you, if you see anything that coming for those reasons. i mean the industry there is well moving towards buy american build american suppliers and if you could just say something about that how it possibly is affecting you if you see anything that coming for those reasons Also, you have said before that you have raised prices there to, well, mitigate the tariffs. also you have said before that you have raised prices there to well mitigate the tariffs Is that? is that Have you been able to compensate fully for the tariffs? have you been able to compensate fully for the tariffs Or, well, if you could elaborate a little bit on that. or well if you could elaborate a little bit on that

Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. If we start with the tariffs, as you probably know, they are hitting the Beijer Electronics products, not Westermo. Beijer Electronics have, you know, right away, implemented price increases to mitigate that. We don't see any major pushback from our customers regarding that, and we don't see any effect either on our volume. I think that has worked quite well. When it comes to the Buy America impact, of course, this is a discussion that is coming up more and more, I would say, in discussing with the North American customers. So far there, you know, have been ways around it. With our customers, it hasn't been a big issue. Mm-hmm. mm-hmm If we start with the tariffs, as you probably know, they are hitting the Beijer Electronics products, not Westermo. if we start with the tariffs as you probably know they are hitting the beijer electronics products not westermo Beijer Electronics have, you know, right away, implemented price increases to mitigate that. beijer electronics have you know right away implemented price increases to mitigate that We don't see any major pushback from our customers regarding that, and we don't see any effect either on our volume. we don't see any major pushback from our customers regarding that and we don't see any effect either on our volume I think that has worked quite well. i think that has worked quite well When it comes to the Buy America impact, of course, this is a discussion that is coming up more and more, I would say, in discussing with the North American customers. when it comes to the buy america impact of course this is a discussion that is coming up more and more i would say in discussing with the north american customers So far there, you know, have been ways around it. so far there you know have been ways around it With our customers, it hasn't been a big issue. with our customers it hasn't been a big issue It's not preventing us from selling in any way, but it is, of course, a factor that we are monitoring and looking at, to see if and when, you know, we need to do, take some measures, because of that. If that answered your question, Henrik. Hello? It's not preventing us from selling in any way, but it is, of course, a factor that we are monitoring and looking at, to see if and when, you know, we need to do, take some measures, because of that. it's not preventing us from selling in any way but it is of course a factor that we are monitoring and looking at to see if and when you know we need to do take some measures because of that If that answered your question, Henrik. if that answered your question henrik Hello? hello

Speaker 4: Maybe we lost, Henrik. Maybe we lost, Henrik. maybe we lost henrik

Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. yeah yeah

Speaker 6: There are no more phone questions at this time, so I hand the conference back to the speakers for any written questions and closing comments. There are no more phone questions at this time, so I hand the conference back to the speakers for any written questions and closing comments. there are no more phone questions at this time so i hand the conference back to the speakers for any written questions and closing comments

Speaker 3: Yes. Thanks for that. We do have one written question here. How large is your data center business? Today it's actually a relatively small business, and it's Beijer Electronics that are one of their or a couple of their customers that are active in this industry. We all know that it's a growing industry, especially in the U.S., we see a big interest. We expect this business to grow going forward, and we can grow with our existing customers there. There are no more written questions. With that, we will conclude this call. Thank you all for listening in, and have a great evening. Yes. yes Thanks for that. thanks for that We do have one written question here. we do have one written question here How large is your data center business? how large is your data center business Today it's actually a relatively small business, and it's Beijer Electronics that are one of their or a couple of their customers that are active in this industry. today it's actually a relatively small business and it's beijer electronics that are one of their or a couple of their customers that are active in this industry We all know that it's a growing industry, especially in the U.S., we see a big interest. we all know that it's a growing industry especially in the u.s we see a big interest We expect this business to grow going forward, and we can grow with our existing customers there. we expect this business to grow going forward and we can grow with our existing customers there There are no more written questions. there are no more written questions With that, we will conclude this call. with that we will conclude this call Thank you all for listening in, and have a great evening. thank you all for listening in and have a great evening

Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you. thank you