Arcosa, Inc. — Call Transcript 2026

Good morning, this is the conference operator. Welcome, and thank you for joining the Crédit Agricole fourth quarter and full year 2025 results conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions by pressing star and one on your telephone. Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, they may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on their telephone. Today's speakers will be Ms. Clotilde L’Angevin, Deputy General Manager of Crédit Agricole, and Mr. Olivier Gavalda, Chief Executive Officer of Crédit Agricole. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Gavalda. Please go ahead, sir. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure for me to share with you the strong results published this morning by Crédit Agricole S.A., that Clotilde will describe extensively in a few minutes. Before that, let me start with a brief introduction and highlight the key commercial and financial figures, as well as give you an outlook for 2026. On this slide, once again, and despite the uncertainties and erratic events in 2025, Crédit Agricole S.A. is posting high results for 2025, reaching again a level above EUR 7 billion, and this performance is supported by a very dynamic commercial activity. Net income group share amounts precisely to EUR 7.1 billion. It is stable level compared to 2024, despite the tax surcharge of EUR 147 million recorded this year. So in fact, excluding this tax surcharge, it is a slight increase. These very good results are driven by an increase in revenues by 3.3%, thanks to a dynamic commercial activity this year, that I will further illustrate in a few minutes. These very good results also translate into strong profitability, with a return on tangible equity of 13.5%, stable compared to last year, and the capacity to distribute a dividend of 14 euros per share, increased by 3% this year. CASA CET1 ratio is above the 11% target. Its level is of 11.8% at the end of December. We confirm that very high solvency level of the group with a CET1 ratio of 17.4%, placing us among the most solid of major European banks. A few words on the fourth quarter that Clotilde will describe in much more details afterwards. Q4 is impacted by Banco BPM first consolidation for EUR 607 million. Thanks to this consolidation, there will no longer be volatility in the P&L linked to the evolution of Banco BPM share price. As this operation sets the foundation of a regular contribution of Banco BPM to our results, around EUR 100 million per quarter, regarding the 2025 performance of Banco BPM. On the next slide, in 2025, we have experienced numerous commercial successes. A few examples deserve to be highlighted. We have acquired 2.1 million new clients. Best performance in the history of Crédit Agricole. Loan production for our retail banks increased by 15% compared to 2024, reaching EUR 140 billion. Insurance premium income set a new record at EUR 52 billion, up 20% compared to 2024. Among these, net inflows were multiplied by 1.6 to reach EUR 58 billion. CACEIS reaches record results, driven by all its business lines across our different geographies. And despite the difficulties incurred by CA PFM in the automotive market in Europe and China, the level of activity remains high, particularly in personal finance. Furthermore, in 2025, Crédit Agricole S.A. continued its momentum in partnership and investments, notably with structuring partnerships and targeted acquisitions in Europe, Asia, and U.S. We can, in particular, mention launch of partnership with Victory Capital in U.S., increase in our stake in Banco BPM in Italy, long-term partnership with Crelan in Belgium, acquisition of non-controlling interests in CACEIS, and major partnership with ICG in private assets. These key transactions strengthen the group's position as a leading European player, and accelerate its development in high-potential markets. On the next slide, our solid results reinforce the financial ambition set in our strategic plan. All in all, as illustrated in the chart, in pro forma data, those results achieved in 2025 are fully in line with the trajectory of our plan, and reinforce our confidence in our ability to meet objectives we have set regarding our revenue growths, net income group share, return on tangible equity, and cost income ratio. For the cost income ratio, we have reached a peak point, and I'm very confident it should drop in the next quarters. More specifically, 2026 outlook is based on the set of favorable factors. In particular, the continuation and acceleration of the commercial momentum, amplified by the rollout of new strategic initiatives of our plan, the gradual integration of recent acquisitions and realization of synergies. The retail banking and personal finance business line in France are expected to continue to benefit from the upturn in margins, whereas mobility activities are set to see a recovery in profitability. Corporate investment banking should continue to perform in the volatile environment. And finally, Banco BPM will now make a recurring and high contribution to profit of around, as I said, EUR 100 million per quarter. Obviously, uncertainties, and you know that, will remain high. In the last slide, as it is, many investments undertaken in 2025 have already materialized or will materialize in the coming weeks and coming months. We are truly off to a running start. Here are a few examples, starting with our thoughts for acceleration. First, concerning retail banking in France, we can mention that the regional banks have developed, as part of their 2030 ambitions, the 100% digital housing loan journey. LCL has just deployed its digital offering for professionals and is preparing its easy digital offering for individuals. The transformation of LCL is on track. We have launched Indosuez Corporate Advisory to serve mid-size companies, and we can mention also a few upcoming international developments. Particularly, the European savings platform will be launched in April in Germany. In Asia, CACEIS will open a branch in Singapore in 2026. Of course, our transformation and simplification efforts will continue, particularly around AI, as well as our innovation efforts with, for example, CACEIS, CACIB, and Amundi joining forces to launch initiatives in the world of tokenized finance. All these projects and the value created by our recent acquisitions make me very confident about the future. Our development in France, in Italy, in Europe, and in Asia is on track, and our model demonstrated its strength once again. Now it's time to give the floor to Clotilde, who will provide you with a more detailed presentation of our quarterly and annual results. Thank you, and see you soon. Clotilde? Thank you, Olivier. Hello, everybody. So moving to the slide regarding the key figures, you see here that we have strong annual results, as Olivier was saying, that are in particular stable for CACEIS this year without any form of adjustments. Now, in the quarter, specifically, the results for Group Crédit Agricole and for CACEIS were impacted in particular by Banco BPM effects. One, that I'm going to detail a little bit further down on the revenue front, an impact of the fluctuations in the share price of Banco BPM for EUR 320 million. And another on the net income front, an impact of the first time consolidation of Banco BPM for EUR 607 million. And this explains the decrease in net income by 23.9% for Group Crédit Agricole and by 39.3% for Crédit Agricole S.A. this quarter. Now, if we look at the annual results, however, the revenues are record in 2025, both for the group, it increased by 3.9%, and for CACEIS, it increased by 3.3%, thanks to dynamic activity in all the business lines, and in particular for the group, thanks to the rebound in net interest income in France. The growth operating income, as you see, was up this year. Despite the investments that Olivier was talking about, to set the stage for future developments in our medium-term plan, we have operational efficiency that is well managed, with a cost income ratio at 55.7% for CACEIS and 59.6% for the group. The cost of risk is under control. We have a cost of risk on outstandings of 35 basis points, sorry, for CA, compared to 34 last year, and 28 for the group, compared to 27 last year. So all in all, net income group share reached EUR 8.8 billion for the group and EUR 7.1 billion for CA. This is, in particular, stable for CA, despite the impact of the additional corporate tax charge, which is EUR 280 million for the group and EUR 147 million for CA. The increase in net income would have been 1.8% for CA and 4.6% for Crédit Agricole Group, excluding this impact. Now, if I move to the next slide, activity supported this strong growth in revenues over the year, and in particular, we have activity that was sustained across all of the business lines this quarter and over the year. Now, customer capture was strong, 517,000 this quarter, which brings, brings the total for the year to the 2,100,000 new customers that Olivier was talking about in France, Italy, and Poland, and our customer base is also expanding this year. Activity was strong, in particular in retail banking in France. I talked about it for the group. Loan production was dynamic, driven by the corporate loan production that increased by 14% quarter-on-quarter and 16% year-on-year. And the home loan production was also strong, 9% quarter-on-quarter, 21% year-on-year, in particular in the regional banks this quarter. And over the year, we have, again, an increase in market share for the regional banks. International loan production was also strong, in particular in Italy, with a 5.44% growth rate quarter-on-quarter in corporate and individuals, but also, for example, in Poland, thanks to retail. And so outstanding loans increased in all of our markets. On-balance sheet savings also increased in all our markets, and the off-balance sheet savings inflows were dynamic in France and in Italy. And so this translates into the performance of insurance. We had record net inflows over the year in life insurance, EUR 15.9 billion, and this quarter they were strong, driven by France and both by unit-linked in the Eurofund. The premium income in insurance is high. It crossed in 2025, the EUR 50 billion threshold with a 20% increase this quarter. Thanks, of course, to savings and retirements. You know that there's a context of increased precautionary savings, but also thanks to the P&C activity, to individual death and disability insurance, and to group insurance. And so P&C activity is growing both in France and internationally, with 17.9 million contracts in our portfolio, and the equipment of our customers continues to increase in all of the new retail networks. In asset management, we have a record level of AUMs of EUR 2,380 billion, thanks mainly to strong inflows. Olivier was talking about the EUR 88 billion inflows over the year, EUR 21 billion this quarter, thanks to medium to long-term assets into the JVs, and in particular, passive management, and to continued strong momentum in third-party distribution. In wealth management, activity was also strong this quarter, with record net inflows and strong customer capture. In wealth management, just a parenthesis, the integration of the group is well underway. We have 30% of synergies that are already achieved, and this allows us to comfortably confirm our guidance of EUR 150-200 million Net Income Group Share contribution by 2028. In personal finance and mobility, production was also high, EUR 12.1 billion this quarter, thanks in particular to dynamic activity in personal finance. As you know, the automobile activity was impacted this quarter and this year by unfavorable market conditions, but we have managed loans that increase across all segments. Production and leasing was dynamic this quarter, thanks in particular to renewable energy in France and benefiting from the integration of MercaLeasing. And finally, in the large customers division, the CIB confirms its performance with a new record level of Q4 in 2025 revenues, thanks both to market activities, where we had a strong performance in rates and repos activities, and to financing activities, in particular the telco sector in corporate and leveraged finance. And of course, we maintain our leading positions on syndicated loans and bond issuances. Finally, in asset servicing, we have assets under custody and assets under management that increased this quarter, thanks to positive effects, market effects, sorry, but also to the arrival of new customers. The ISB integration is now finalized. Customer and IT migrations are completed, and the synergies have been achieved at a rate of 66%, and so we're very confident on our guidance of EUR 100 million net income for 2026 contribution of ISB integration. By the way, I was talking about the growth in ISB. If you're curious, on slide 41, we have analyzed the majority of our 2015 to 2022 transactions in order to look at the return on investments of these past acquisitions, which is, of course, on average, higher than our 10% limits, 13% as of 2025. It's too early to calculate a three-year ROI for the 2023, 2024 operations. We already have strong ROIs to date, and the synergies are on track for the three main operations of the period. I was talking about ISB for CACEIS, the group, but also ALD, which is very profitable. Now moving to revenues. So this activity, the dynamism of activity, translates as it has been doing, as you can see on the figure on the right, for the past 10 years, into revenue growth. Now, this quarter, CA revenues were impacted by a negative Banco BPM share valuation of EUR -57 million. And so compared to the Q4 positive effect of EUR 263 million, this valuation impacts the change in revenues by EUR 320 million. Now, recall that until the first consolidation of Banco BPM in December, we had fluctuations in the share price of Banco BPM that impacted our revenues, and so we do still have this fluctuation. And this is why, in particular, we wanted to limit the exposure of our income statement, sorry, to the volatility in Banco BPM's share price. This is why we asked, and we received the authorization by the ECB to cross the 20% threshold in order to equity account our stake within the framework of significant influence. This is consistent with our position as a long-term shareholder and partner of Banco BPM. Now, going forward, this stake will be immune to the fluctuation of the share price of Banco BPM, and it's going to generate regular net income of, as Olivier was saying, if we base this on the past income statements of Banco BPM, about EUR 400 million per year. This is strong value creation. Recall that over the past years, we have had strong value creation also, thanks to, in particular, the dividend earnings from Banco BPM. All in all, the contribution was EUR 200 million in 2023, about EUR 600 million in 2024, and about EUR 200 million in 2025, including, and I'm going to come back to it just afterwards, the impact of the first consolidation. So you see, we have a strong value creation in our accounts in the past and in the future, thanks to this share in Banco BPM. Now, if I come back to revenues, excluding this EUR 320 million impact, the revenues increased by 2.7% this quarter, and this is thanks to the sustained activity that I was talking about in our business lines. The revenues increased by EUR 60 million in asset gathering. We have a scope effect linked to the Amundi US deconsolidation, but also a scope effect linked to the integration of our insurance activities that are in JV with Banco BPM. And these two scope effects more or less cancel out. Besides this, activity was strong in all of the business lines. Revenues also increased in CIB, despite an unfavorable foreign exchange impact and in asset servicing, thanks to strong fees and commissions income. In SFS, the revenues were impacted by a EUR 30 million base effect that we had talked to you about last year in consumer finance. But on the other hand, we had revenues in leasing that benefited from the integration of MercaLeasing. And besides this, revenues benefited from favorable price and volume effects in consumer finance, which offset the decline in mobility revenues. You know that we have mobility revenues in our Crédit Agricole Auto Bank entity. Finally, the revenues increased by EUR 91 million in retail banking in all geographies, thanks to the strength of fees and commissions income in Italy and in France. And in France, finally, thanks to the rebound in net interest income. So as you can see, we're starting to see what we talked about in the medium-term plan on net interest income. A net interest income that's going to continue to slightly decrease in 2026 in Italy, but a net interest income that will increase in LCL, by the way, also in regional banks. Thanks to the reduction in the cost of resources, we have a normalization of the customer deposit mix and the rate effect, and thanks to the gradual repricing of loans. So all in all, we have growing revenues in the businesses, continuing the dynamics that you observed over the past 10 years. Now, if I move to costs. The cost to income ratio has increased this year at 55.7%, but it remains very under control. It's an increase of 1.3 percentage points after 15 percentage points dropped between 2015 and 2024. And if we look at the quarter, you see that we have a growth by 4.7%, but if we break down the expenses, you'll see a certain number of elements. First, we have scope effects. We have scope effects linked to the deconsolidation of Amundi US, but we also, negative, but we also have positive scope effects for the integration of insurance entities in partnership with Banco BPM, Bank Teller, and the resumption of depository activities. So these scope effects, as you can see on the right, along with the integration and acquisition costs, they more or less cancel out. First point. The second point, we have restructuring costs. You know that we talked about in the last quarter, about EUR 80 million restructuring costs for Amundi in the context of an optimization plan in France, Italy, Germany, and Australia that will generate EUR 40 million of annual savings from 2026 onwards. We have an addition to that for EUR 8 million this quarter. But more importantly, we have strong restructuring charges in Italy, EUR 65 million. This is really, as Olivier was saying, to prepare for a medium-term plan, i.e., the growth in digital customer capture, productivity efforts on administrative activities, improved salesforce expertise. Then if we take off the scope effects and restructuring costs, we have a growth that is very limited in recurring expenses, 2.5%. This growth also allows us this growth in recurring expenses also corresponds to investments within our medium-term plan. For example, in LCL, to continue to transform our distribution model, for example, in CIB, in cash management and equity solutions. We're really laying the ground for our medium-term plan with these expenses. Now, if I move to cost of risk. Cost of risk increased by 5.9% this quarter, but if you look at the stage three incurred cost of risk, you'll see that it's very stable compared to the Q3 and Q2 levels. Now, what are the exceptional items that explain the increase in cost of risk this quarter? There's mainly two exceptional items. The first one is a EUR 41 million provision on the UK car loans litigation. As you know, we have a 2% market share, so it's limited for us. Of course, all of the CA PFM UK entities immediately complied with regulation on, you know, it's the setting of rates by distribution intermediaries. But we are subject, as the other players that have a larger market share, to customer claims related to the past. We decided to prudently increase our provisioning in the context of an ongoing consultation by FCA, to bring the total stock of our provisions to EUR 88 million. The outcome of the consultation is expected soon, hopefully by the end of the month. The second exceptional effect is a EUR 30 million provision. This corresponds in Italy, again, to a market element. It corresponds to our current estimation of our 5% share of the bailing out of a small digital bank in Italy, which is Banca Progetto, a bailing out by the Italian Deposit Guarantee Scheme. As I was saying, besides these elements, the stage three cost of risk is very close to the Q3 and Q2 levels. 44% of the stage three cost of risk is explained by SFS, where the risk has been relatively stable over the past quarters. Then we have 32% for LCL, with an increase in individual risk on corporates, mainly in retail distribution sector. Then we have a little bit in Italy, in CIB. In CIB, the cost of risk remains very low, with investment-grade customers mainly, and a diversified and a balanced geopolitical risk. So if I conclude on this slide, there's no surge in loan loss provisions, even though, of course, we monitor closely the corporate customers in retail banking, and in particular, for example, small real estate developers, construction, distribution, automobile, textiles, and more generally SMEs. Our lending policy is cautious, and as always, our provisioning is very prudent. As you can see, our main asset quality indicators are very solid. The cost of risk as a share of outstandings is low, both at CASA and Group. The loan loss reserves are very high, and we have among the best coverage ratios in Europe, both for the group and for CASA. I'm going to move very quickly on to the next slide, just to tell you that for Crédit Agricole Italia in particular, you see that the cost of risk on outstandings is stable at 39 basis points, excluding the Banca Progetto provision. And you see that we have relatively stable cost of risks after very low quarters, by the way, in beginning of 2025 and end of 2024. Moving on to the slide on quarterly results. So we have strong activity, managed operational efficiency, cost of risks that are under control. However, our results in the fourth quarter were impacted by two exceptional effects that I'm going to explain in a little bit more detail right now. First of all, a first effect, which is a negative impact, as you can see, on equity accounting of the performance of our JV with Stellantis, which is Leasys, with a minus EUR 111 million contribution. Now, what happened? In CA PFM, we have three growth drivers in 22 countries, and we have two growth drivers that performed well in 2025: the servicing to the bank entities and personal finance, which is restoring its margins. There was one growth driver, mobility, that suffered in 2025 due to market conditions, in particular because the automobile market has been suffering in 2025. On top of that, the car manufacturers that we have close ties with have had specific difficulties. So I'm thinking of GAC in China, I'm thinking of Tesla in Europe, and of course, I'm thinking of Stellantis, with which we have our JV. So the three entities that we have on mobility, one is Crédit Agricole Auto Bank, for which we have growth operating income, which is good. The second one is our JV with GAC, GAC-Sofinco, where production has been impacted, but results are positive, and production is picking up in the last months of the year. And then finally, Leasys. Now, the difficulties faced by Stellantis reduced the attractivity of the range of vehicles. And so Leasys, which is the JV we have, we have with Stellantis, had to make commercial investments, and the performance of remarketing was impacted. In the Q4, we decided to review all of the remarketing values of our used vehicle portfolios in Leasys, systematically applying a conservative discount compared to market prices. So this impacted the Q4 results, but it's going to strengthen our financial base for Leasys, and it allows Leasys to prepare for a rebound in profitability, because we're well-positioned to benefit from the growth which is coming in the long-term leasing market. We're starting on solid footing, and we also have a strong position, in particular in Italy, number one. And going forward, we're going to roll out new services and insurance solutions focusing on added value. That's the first effect. The second effect is one that you know better, which is the impact of the first consolidation of Banco BPM. So you recall that we acquired Banco BPM shares in tranches, each at a different price. And so when we consolidate for the first time, we decided to take a prudent accounting position, which is to take as reference, the equity value and not the share price. And so we assess at each date of the acquisition, our share of the net assets acquired. So we carve out the fair value effect in PNL OCI for about EUR 1.9 billion. It's negative because the price is higher today than what it was when we bought the shares. And then, conversely, we recognize the goodwill effect, which is the difference between the price of the shares at the moment of the acquisition and the equity value of our participation. And then there's an adjustment to net book value in that position. And so all in all, since the difference between the price of our participation at the time of consolidation and the equity value of our participation today is positive, we have a PNL impact that's negative. But as I was saying, going forward, we're based upon Banco BPM's past results, we should have an increase of about EUR 100 million of net income per quarter. So this quarterly net income has these exceptional effects that made it a little bit complicated to read. But if you look at annual results, without any form of restatement, we have stable results at EUR 7.1 billion. So we have a certain number of exceptional elements that more or less cancel out. We have the impact of the first consolidation that I talked about of Banco BPM. We also have, in the Q2, the capital gain linked to the deconsolidation of Amundi US in the Q2, and we also have an additional corporate tax charge for EUR 147 million. So if you exclude all of these elements on the right of the figure, you see that we have a growth operating income, which increased in 2025 by 1.3%, thanks to buoyant activity in our business lines and thanks to our constant attention to operational efficiency. Cost of risk is under control. So all in all, you remember that we had told you that we would have a stable net income over the year, excluding additional corporate tax. Now, including this, it's stable, and excluding it, net income would had increased by 1.8%. Finally, as indicated by Olivier, the ROTE is high at 13.5%. Pro forma, it's at 13.9%, and this bodes well for our 2028 financial trajectory. Now, if I move to capital. For CASA, recall that the target in our medium-term plan is 11%. So we still have a very high level of CET1 this quarter, 11.8%, about 300 basis points, sorry, above our 8.75% SREP requirement. And this is thanks to, first, retained results, 22 basis points, which are the consequence of the generation of income that I commented before, but also integrating a 50% payout. Payout based upon a distributable net income, which we adjusted to exclude the capital gain related to the deconsolidation of Amundi US for EUR 304 million, it's not a cash effect, and to exclude this accounting effect of the six hundred and seven million PNL impact of the first consolidation of Banco BPM. And so this amounts to a dividend of EUR 1.13 per share, an increase compared to last year of 3%. Now, if I come back to the waterfall, we also have the effect of the organic growth for the business lines, six percentage points, and we have an active management of our balance sheet. In particular, we have optimized, as planned in our medium-term plan, our RWAs through the synthetic risk transfers for about 7 basis points, and this allowed us to re-release 1.6 billion RWAs in CACIB, net, and 0.6 billion in Crédit Agricole Personal Finance and Mobility in the fourth quarter. So we're going to really have an attitude which is scarce resource monitoring, always making sure that the cost of release is accretive. But you see here that we have this active management of the balance sheet, which allows us to compensate, almost the methodological impact in the M&A and others. These M&A, impacts include a +9 basis point impact of Banco BPM. Now, we have a negative impact of the EUR 607 million PNL first consolidation effect that I talked to you about, 14 basis points. Then there's naturally, because we have this prudent view regarding our equity accounting, there's a decrease in the prudential value of Banco BPM in our CET1. So we have a positive impact corresponding to the reduction in RWAs corresponding to this decrease. And this is why the impact of the first consolidation is positive for CASA and non-significant for the group because for CASA, this positive impact is stronger because our exemption threshold for the significant participations above 10% had already been full. So this is why we have a different impact between CASA and the group on the next page. This box also includes a share buyback impact, which compensates the Q3 impact of the capital increase for employees in order to neutralize the dilutive impact of that Q3 capital increase. This is 9 basis points, and we have a couple of small M&A impacts, of which is the beginning of the participation in ICG. And finally, we have a few methodological effects. For example, in Italy, we have put in place new retail RWA models. This was included. This is about 15 basis points, and this was included in the 40 basis points methodological impact we announced on our capital markets day. So the waterfall brings us to 11.8%, which is very comfortably above 11%. And then slide CET1 group, Crédit Agricole. Next slide. I'm going to go very quickly on this because I talked about the effects regarding Banco BPM in particular, but I just wanted to insist upon the fact that our objective is not to accumulate CASA at the level, capital at the level of CA SA. That's why, in terms of solidity, the relevant figure is the CET1 of the group, which is very comfortable at 17.4%, a 760 basis point distance to our SREP requirement. We have organic growth of businesses, and we also have a slight methodological impact regarding the correction of corporate loss given defaults for the regional banks. Leverage ratio is very comfortable. TLAC and MREL ratios are very strong, so we have a very strong capital position at the level of the group. On slide 18, we also have a very comfortable liquidity position, a high level of liquidity reserves at EUR 485 billion. The LCR and NSFR ratios are excellent. NSFR is going to be published end of March, but in the Q3, we were close to 120%, for the group, 114% for CACIB. And the group has mobilized various levers to diversify the sources of liquidity, thanks to its universal banking model. One, our customer deposits that are abundant, stable, diversified, and granular. And so our liquidity coverage ratio is very high, above our targets, which is a range between 110% and 130%. On the next slide, we have our transition plan that continues to be organized around three pillars, accelerating of the development of financing to renewables and low-carbon energy sources. That has increased from the first half to 28.6 billion euros in 2025. We're also helping our customers in their own transition by providing financing consistently with the group's sustainable asset framework. This has increased this quarter to EUR 116.5 billion. And finally, we continue to decrease our financing to carbon-based energy sources. And so moving on to the next slide, let me conclude by saying that this quarter, net income is impacted by an accounting effect linked to the impact of the first consolidation of Banco BPM and by the difficulties of the automobile market. These two elements should, in fact, disappear in 2026, and contributes, on the other hand, to growth, thanks to the growth in mobility and thanks to the regular high and recurring profit contribution of Banco BPM. Activity was sustained in all of the business lines, with record inflows, outstandings, and premiums income and asset gathering, record performance in CIB, a strong pickup in net interest income in France. The fourth quarter, as Olivier was saying, marks the beginning of the medium-term plan, and we have already started rolling out the different dimensions of our plan in retail banking in France, in Germany, in terms of innovation and efficiency. And so the growth operating income increased in 2025 for CACEIS and the group. Income is high at EUR 7.1 billion, and this strong performance allows us to post high profitability with a ROTE of 13.5%, and to propose to the general assembly an increasing dividend. So we're very much on track to meet our 2028 financial targets. I'm going to stop here. Thank you very much for your attention. We can now open the floor to your questions. This is the conference operator. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your touchtone telephone. To remove yourself from the question queue, please press star and two. Please pick up the receiver when asking questions. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. The first question is from Jacques-Henri Gaulard, Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead. Yes, good morning, all of you. The question is a bit conceptual, but when I look at your results and revenues in particular versus consensus, I mean, very strong activity everywhere. You've beaten. It's very strong, but at the same time, Clotilde, I feel for you because you spent the last 45 minutes literally going through every single one-off and restructuring and everything, and at the end of the day, you know, your stock is down 3%, which, you know, I think is a bit harsh. So, I mean, I totally appreciate the whole non-recurring aspects of Banco BPM and everything. You've explained the legal cases, but is it fair to say that the reason why you ended up with that accumulation of non-recurring aspect is probably due to the fact that you have a plan coming, and you need a bit of a reset for a perimeter you feel comfortable with over the next three years and everything? Or is it actually, you know, the problems of having a decentralized structure, which means that, you know, you end up at the end of each quarter with an accumulation of things that were not necessarily planned at the beginning? Just to try to figure out when we can actually expect something quite clean, if you see what I mean. Thank you very much. Yes. Thank you, Jacques-Henri. I see what you mean, and thank you for filling for me for this 45 minutes. It's true that we really want to set the stage for the medium-term plan, and so that's why we were very satisfied when we received the authorization from the ECB to equity account our stake in Banco BPM, because that's going to reduce fluctuations and provide high recurring profit going forward. We intentionally accounted for the restructuring costs in Amundi and Crédit Agricole Italia in 2025, because this again sets the stage for our medium-term plan, and growth going forward in retail, in asset management. But we're also, I didn't talk about it too much, but we're also investing also in CIB, in LCL. So the costs that you have this quarter really reflect this investment that we have for the future in our medium-term plan. Now, there are a few one-offs that don't depend on us, in fact, regarding, in particular, the UK provision and the Banca Progetto restructuring. And we have this issue in terms of the automobile market, but all of this should pick up. And I, I think what we really want—what I really want to insist upon, is the fact that we have really an outlook that's going to be strong for 2026, because we also have the integration of the recent acquisitions. That's also something that's going to pick up. We no longer have these integration costs for CACEIS. We have very limited integration costs that are going to be coming in 2026 for Degroof, but it's going to be limited. And as you can see, we're on the slide, on the sixth, we really have a lot of tailwinds going forward, in particular with margins that are going to pick up, in particular for French retail and for consumer finance. And of course, performance continues to be very strong in CIB and Crédit Agricole Assurance. Thank you. The next question is from Tarik El Mejjad, at Bank of America. Please go ahead. Hi, good morning. A few questions on my side as well. First of all, I mean, given the restatements you've done for the BPM on the, your accounts, this was very helpful. Would you guide for an increasing net income year-over-year from the, restated, EUR 7.27 billion in 2025, given all the moving parts? Consensus has that, flat or slightly down, which I think is, is a bit too cautious. And the second question is on capital and distribution. I mean, you've, you've been increasing your DPS, but still accumulating excess capital. So you've just presented your plan, so there's no policy increase, policy distribution and so on, but just want to hear you in terms of your plans, in terms of what areas you could do some bolt-on and where you see good use of capital. And then talking about this bolt-on, I mean, you had a very interesting chart, slide 41, showing the ROI for the previous M&A deals. I mean, I already picked up on this with you, Clotilde, on the CMD, when you said that 10% ROI, or both 10% ROI is satisfactory. I thought it was quite a low number, but now I look at what you've done so far, you know, between 11% and 13%. I mean, is that something really you, you've kind of expected from the origination of those deals? Or you were hoping for better than that and been disappointed by the integration? Thank you. Thank you, Tariq, for your question. Now, regarding guidance, I think really what I want to go back to is what Olivier was saying in terms of how we're setting the stage for the plan, for the Act 2028 plan. So indeed, if you look at pro forma, we have a 7.3 net income group share in 2025, and so we're well on track to reach our target, which is to go beyond 8.5% in 2028. But as you know, we really like to remain on, multi-annual targets. In terms of cost to income, what I can tell you maybe more precisely, however, is that the 57.4% pro forma cost to income is a peak. It should go down next year. So 2026 cost to income should be lower than what it was in 2025. On the other elements, in terms of revenues, net income, and ROTE, what I can just tell you is that all of this, we're on track to increase. And it's true that the 13.9% pro forma ROTE of 2025 really bodes well for the future, and I think we can really say that the 14% target for 2028 is really a minimum. Now, you were talking on organic bolt-ons. You know that our track record is really based upon a mix of organic and a mix of bolt-ons. In the capital markets today, we talked to you about the fact that we had revenue growth that was 70% organic and 30% external growth, and that's why we had a revenue growth that was more than 5% over the past six years, and we're targeting a revenue growth of 3.5% in this medium-term plan. This is supposing that there would only be organic growth. We do hope we will do external growth operations. As you were saying, Tarik, we do have very strict financial criteria. So thank you for pointing out slide 41, and so thank you for Cécile and this team, and by the way, who prepared this slide. We take into account ROI, of course, and we're happy to have these figures. The 10% figure is a minimum, but there's also other criteria that we take into account, and we talked about it in the capital market day. We have to have operations that are accretive in terms of ROTE. We have to have a demonstrated integration capacity by the businesses integrating. We have to have revenues and cost synergies. And of course, these operations have to be very well aligned with our strategy. And so to answer maybe your question as to what we can see in terms of bolt-ons, it's gonna be linked with our strategy. Olivier was talking about the fact that we want to develop, in terms of, in France, in Europe, in Germany. We want to develop in Asia. We want to support the savings development in Europe in particular. We want to support the development of corporates, in particular with midcaps, in Europe. More generally, we were talking about these different triangles of growth, where the midcaps and the corporates are going to support the competitiveness of Europe. All these are areas where we want to continue to develop, and all of the business lines that you see, by the way, on slide 41, all of the business lines have critical size, are profitable, and so are very well positioned to continue to seizing opportunities if they appear. But we're really in an opportunistic mode because our medium-term plan, we can reach the targets through solely through organic growth. Thank you. The next question is from Delphine Lee, J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead. Yes, good morning. Thanks for hosting the call, Clotilde, and thanks for the presentation. I have two questions. On the first one, if I can ask on sort of, you know, your comments, going back to your comments on 2026 outlook, when you mentioned the headwinds on NII for Italy, CACEIS, and, and wealth management. I'm just wondering, you know, is that just you trying to be conservative? Because, you know, you do have already volume growth, and NII has stabilized in Italy. Shouldn't volume be able to offset the rate headwinds? Just if you could give a bit of color on that. The second thing is, you know, if, do you mind just, like, expanding a little bit and elaborating more about, you know, sort of thesis and, and GAC-Sofinco in China? Because, I mean, how quickly can we see a rebound in your associate income? Production is picking up, it seems, in China, but, like, how quickly can we see that already in the numbers? And, you know, how can we measure the sort of the implications of the write-down you've done on this, this quarter in terms of, you know, what that means for, you know, 2026 and 2027? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your question, Delphine. Yeah, we have tailwinds for net interest income in France, but we do have headwinds for net interest income, as you were saying, in Italy, in CACEIS and wealth management. We're, of course, hoping that volumes are going to pick up, and we have dynamism in commissions, but it's true that there is a rate effect that we see, in Italy. The decrease in net interest income in Italy should not be that significant. On the other hand, the increase in net income, the interest income in France, should be a little bit stronger, in particular for LCL, and of course, in the regional banks, which also are going to support, which is also going to support growth in the regional banks, which is always good for the activity of the business lines of CA. So relatively reasonable headwinds on net interest income in Italy. Now, if I come back a little bit to Leasys and to China. So let me just maybe talk about China a little bit, because I didn't go too much into detail about that. Because, in fact, the production had slowed down in the first quarters of the year, in particular, I talked to you about that in the Q2 and in the Q3 in China. And in fact, we have had in the Q2, 2025, an event where the Chinese authorities imposed a 5% floor to the commissions, which caused the market to normalize because we had had the entry onto the market of, banks, which caused competitive conditions on the market. And so production is picking up. December was the highest month of the year for GAC-Sofinco and GAC Leasing. But the effect of this normalization, it's gonna take a few quarters to come into the income, because the average duration of these loans is a little bit more than 30 months. So we have to be cautious, but nevertheless, GAC has also begun to diversify its activities to the used car financing, for example, to the development of new services. So I think reasonably we could consider that China's income could stabilize in 2026 compared to 2025, and hopefully it's gonna pick up going after that. Now, for Leasys, there's gonna be drivers of profitability going forward for Leasys and for mobility more generally. A diversification of the distribution channel, a revamping of the services catalog, an improvement in the remarketing process with value sharing with car constructors, IT tools. We're developing across European remarketing strategy, building on synergies between different entities, and of course, the automobile market should pick up, and we are gonna have more value-driven pricing. Now, we're confident in the fact that Leasys was gonna recover profitability levels in 2026, and pick up even more in 2027. So a regular increase over the years of the medium-term plan. Great. Thank you very much. The next question is from Pierre Chedeville at CIC. Please go ahead. Yes, good morning. Thank you for the presentation. Two questions on my side. First question regarding the launch of the platform in Germany and more generally in Europe, on the savings side and online side. Will it cost some? Do we have to anticipate some extra charges regarding this launch and this project in 2026? Because you were not very precise on that side in the PMT. So, do we have, I don't know, IT investments, things like that? I'd like to come back also on the cost of risk in LCL. You mentioned some attention points regarding retail and distribution. Do you think that here we will have to have a forecast in the coming quarters in terms of cost of risk, similar to what we've seen in this Q4 for the next quarter? Or is this a peak, I would say, in Q4 and a normalization in the coming quarters? Thank you very much. Thank you, Pierre, for your questions. So regarding the development in Germany, of which we have the development of a digital savings platform, but which includes the development, for example, of everyday banking services. This development should be relatively low cost. I would say would be below EUR 50 million. Why? Because we already have a setup in Germany with Creditplus, 20 branches, and Creditplus is already doing EUR 15 billion in on-balance sheet savings. What we're going to do is we're going to put up a very agile and efficient platform, in particular, to internalize the margins in terms of on-balance sheet saving. And this is something that we should start in the first half of 2026. And then we're going to incrementally build upon that, adding day-to-day banking solutions with essential banking products. This should come in the second half of 2026. Then in 2027, we should have off-balance sheet savings offers. What am I talking about? I'm talking about all of the synergies that we can do with the entities of the group, such as Amundi, for example, or Crédit Agricole Assurances. But these on-balance sheet savings themselves should be relatively competitive, because we're going to propose a number of on-balance sheet solutions for our customers in Germany, which should make this digital saving platform very interesting. But to answer precisely your question, Pierre, all of these developments should be at a very low cost, less than EUR 50 million, and hopefully we're gonna have revenues that are gonna contribute to our growth, thanks to these initiatives. That's the first point. The second point, you're talking about cost of risk in LCL. It's true that we have had an increase in incurred Stage 3 Cost of Risk this quarter in LCL. And so it's true that we're going to be very cautious regarding the different sectors that I talked to you about, retail development, automobile, textiles, distribution, et cetera, et cetera. It's very difficult to say what's coming, in fact. A lot of uncertainty. We have a lot of uncertainty in France, in Europe, regarding the corporate market. What I can tell you is that we have had low Cost of Risk in the recent quarters, but we have, more importantly, accumulated over the past year, very strong provisions. Provisions at the level of the group, provisions also at the level of CACEIS. The provisions at the level of CA include prudent provisions that represent about 1.5 years of cost of risk. At the level of the group, we're close to 3 years of cost of risk. So we have very strong provisioning, and so if the Stage 3 cost of risk continues to increase over the next quarters, we really have these buffers in terms of prudent provisioning, that allows us to limit the cost of risk. I'm still very comfortable regarding the hypothesis that we have in our medium-term plan, which is a cost of risk at 40 basis points for CA during the medium-term plan. Okay, thank you. The next question is from Matthew Clark, Mediobanca. Please go ahead. Hi. So a couple of questions, firstly, on Leasys, and then on slide 41. So with Leasys, can we expect it to break even already next quarter, or is it more a full year break even kind of project? Is that the right way to think about it? And then the second question is just on the calculation of your ROI on slide 41. Is the 13% as simple as your net profit divided by the sum of all the considerations for those entities, or is it more like a return on invested capital calculation or some other aspects of it? Any guidance there would be appreciated. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Matt. Regarding Leasys, I'm not going to give you any quarterly guidance. What I'm going to tell you is that hopefully we're going to have a positive profitability for leases in 2026, picking up in 2027. But uncertainty is relatively high on the automobile market, so it would not be reasonable for me to give you any quarterly guidance regarding leases. But we are comfortable on the fact that we're confident on the fact that we're going to resume profitability, double-digit prof, contribution to net income in 2026. Now, for the M&A operations, in fact, it depends, because some of the M&A operations are difficult to calculate—the ROI is difficult to calculate because the objective of these operations usually is to really have them really feed into the business, and it's oftentimes very difficult to see what is the contribution of this integrated activity to cost or revenue synergies. So when we look at the ROI, we look at the revenue synergies, we look at the cost synergies, we compare that to the price of acquisition, and then going forward, we try to estimate the contribution of the integrated activity to the net income. But it's going to be an estimation, naturally, because it's difficult because we don't have separate entities. One of the cost synergies that, one of the drivers of the cost synergies is the migration, IT migration and the merging of legal entities. So this makes things difficult, but what we do look at, to simplify, is we do look at additional net income in year three compared to the capital that we invested. So just to clarify, is it compared to the consideration that you, when you say capital that you invested, is that the consideration you pay to the seller, or is that the CET1- It's the cash. The capital that's- It's- Okay. cash that we paid. It's not a CET1. We do have a return on CET1, but that is more comparable, in fact, to the ROTE. When I'm telling you that we have an ROI, and we want to have something that is accretive in terms of ROTE, to have something that's accretive in terms of ROTE, we look at a certain number of elements, the RONE, but oftentimes the ROCET1, which looks at the capital consideration that you're talking about. When we look at ROI, we're comparing it to the cash invested. Okay, thank you. The next question is from Alberto Artoni, Intesa Sanpaolo. Please go ahead. Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Now you have two. The first one is just a quick follow-up on the cost of risk in LCL. And I just wanted to better understand if the increase of cost of risk was linked to limited number of big tickets, or was more a broad-based issue with certain sectors that you called out in the slide. The second one is on the tax. What do you expect for 2026 taxation at caisse level? Thank you. All right. Thank you very much, Alberto, for your questions. Regarding LCL, it's an increase in a certain number of individual risks on corporates, but I would not say that it's one or two large deals. There are individual risks, but it's a little bit more diversified regarding the SMEs. So it's an increase in the SME risk in the different sectors that I was talking to you about. It's not one or two specific cases. Now, regarding the corporate tax. Going forward, we do have, as you saw, the publication of the tax decisions by the government, which causes us to forecast a relatively similar corporate tax going forward. It's too early as of today to draw conclusions, but we should have a corporate tax that should be based on an average of the fiscal revenues of past year and current year. So that's why we can't estimate it as of today. The corporate tax for 2025 was based upon the average of the fiscal revenues of 2024 and 2025. So we have to calculate, we're going to have to calculate the corporate tax going forward based upon the fiscal revenues of 2025 and 2026. Now, it's more or less the same type of corporate tax, except that the threshold in terms of turnover, it's a little bit higher. It goes from EUR 1 billion to EUR 1.5 billion, which could have an impact at the level of the group. But all in all, we will have a corporate tax. The amount will be in the same ballpark as what we had this year. And it's true that this is something that is taking into account in our medium-term plan; we know that we have to take into account a certain number of uncertainties, and this is one of the uncertainties that we have to take into account. Hopefully, it's not going to continue until 2028, i.e., the end of our medium-term plan. Very clear. Thank you very much. The next question is from Sharath Kumar, Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I had two. Firstly, on specialized financial services, I know that this is one area where consensus seems to be consistently underestimating your strength. Anything that you can say as to why consensus seems slower, and what do you think it is missing? A follow-up on leases, can you clarify what drove the higher used car sale losses, and whether there's more pain to come? Lastly, on corporate center, if you can give guidance now that we will not have the Banco BPM accounting impact, do you think the Q4 underlying level of, say, call it EUR 80 million negative net income, is a reasonable run rate to extrapolate going forward? Thank you. Okay, thank you, Sharath. So for SFS, the thing is that it's difficult to estimate the impact on mobility in the context that we have currently, which is a context of an automobile market that is under difficulty. So this is something, in fact, that has had an impact on most of the car constructors. But it's true that the car constructors with which we have a relationship, Crédit Agricole Auto Bank, specifically, with Tesla, GAC-Sofinco with GAC, and Leasys with Stellantis. We have had difficulties on these three car constructors, each for specific reasons that hopefully are going, are behind us, and hopefully activity should pick up. That's the first point. But if I extrapolate a little bit to used car, there is a market where the arrival of electric vehicles is making the residual value of used cars difficult also to estimate. That's also why we adopted a very prudent approach by applying a conservative discount to our used car residual values for leases. This is really to put us on a solid base for the future regarding this dimension. And because we have a certain number of growth drivers in CA PFM, not only mobility, we also have personal finance. And in terms of personal finance, we're optimistic as to the pickup. We're going to have tailwinds linked to the margins, and we're going to have also a pickup in the insurance and services. So these are elements that should help us going forward. For corporate center, what we said in the medium-term plan was that we could target around EUR 900-400 million in contribution, I think. I'm just verifying that with Cécile right now. No, she's, she's nodding, she's, she's shaking her head. So maybe that's not that. I'm gonna have to come back to you as to the guidance we have in the medium-term plan in terms of the corporate center. Thank you. Next question is from Benoît Valleaux, ODDO BHF. Please go ahead. Yes, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. A few questions on insurance, if I may, which are about the very strong figures. The first question is related to CSM, which I enjoy the very strong growth of 9.1%, about 12 months. So it's partly due, of course, to the activity, but also you mentioned some positive market effect. Can you just please tell us what has been the market effect or what has been the new business CSM, just to understand what may be the quality of this, of this strong increase? The second question is on P&C. Your combined ratio has been broadly stable at 94.6% for the full year. So what do you expect in terms of price increase this year? And what do you expect in terms of combined ratio this year and over the plan? I have in mind that maybe you expect a broadly stable combined ratio as a plan, but I don't know if you can confirm or elaborate a little bit on that. Yeah. Maybe the third question is on solvency. Solvency is down a little bit compared to your end 2024, but it's still very strong, so it's fine. My question is, first, I mean, do you have a view on the dividend to be paid by Crédit Agricole Assurances to CASA in Q2 and the impact on CET1 ratio, or is it maybe too early for this? And the second question is, do you have a view on what could be or what will be the impact of the Solvency II review on the solvency margin? Thank you. All right. Thank you, Benoît. Now, regarding the CSM, so we have a certain number of elements, and in particular, we have the Variable Fee Approach dimension, which is contributing to the allocation of the CSM. So we have a very slight decrease in the allocation factor, but nevertheless, we have a CSM that is that we have where which we have new business contribution that is higher than the CSM allocation. The positive market effects are effects that you can have, in particular in the GSA, in terms of for the life insurance. Now, regarding P&C, we have a combined ratio indeed that is 94.6% at the end of the year. Going forward, there's gonna be pluses and minuses. There's going to be an impact on claims, for example, of climate change, for example. But on the other hand, the premiums in this context should adapt. The idea for us is to be able to develop P&Cs in France, internationally, to develop the equipment rate, to diversify, also to principalize our customers in the retail banking, in order to increase the extent of P&C solutions that they can have. So these are areas for growth in terms of P&C going forward. But it's true that there will be this mix between claims and premiums going forward, because this is linked to the evolution of the markets. And in terms of solvency, it's really too early to give you any elements like that. Of course, the solvency ratio is something that we usually give you at an annual level. For Crédit Agricole Assurances, which is very high. We had a slight decrease this year, six percentage points year-over-year in the context of increased rates, but strong growth in activity, but it remains extremely high, and very comfortable. Okay, thank you. Maybe just, regarding the CSM, do you have the figures regarding the contribution from the new business to the CSM in 2025? We have the fact that the allocation factor is 7.5%, and the new business contribution is higher than the CSM allocation. Okay, thank you very much. The next question is from Matt Padmash, Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I just wanted to ask, how is the current macro situation in France impacting CA? And can you talk a little bit more about your outlook on French retail going forward, given the recent positive developments on the deposit mix and pricing, please? All right. Thank you. So in fact, the uncertainty linked to the fiscal budget government situation has decreased a little bit, and we have seen that in the asset swaps from the OATs, which has decreased in these past weeks. In fact, the asset swap for OATs has gone below that of Italy. So we have had a market where conditions have been relatively good. Now, there is still uncertainty going forward, more generally, but uncertainty linked to European growth, to the aging of population, to competitiveness issues. There is an uncertainty linked to the level of public debt, for example, in Europe, and also, of course, to the geopolitical risk, which will have an impact on the supply chains, global supply chains. This all creates uncertainty, more generally. Now, two points. First of all, on our capacity to raise liquidity to meet our funding plans, CA has a very strong position. There is a slight impact of the fact that we are, we have an impact due to the government, French government debt. But nevertheless, the spreads are very low for us, and in fact, our funding plan for last year, we went beyond our funding plan, which was EUR 20 billion. We went to EUR 23.1 billion because the conditions were very strong. And the funding plan that we have this. Very favorable, sorry. The funding plan that we have this year is about EUR 18.18 billion, and we have already achieved about 31% of this planned funding plan as of end of January, which is very good, and which shows that there's abundant liquidity for the European banks and for Crédit Agricole, which has a very strong capital and liquidity position, and our conditions, our funding conditions, are very good. So that's the first point. The second point is, so there's no issue for us, Crédit Agricole Group, in terms of capacity to raise funding. The second point is, will macroeconomic uncertainty have an impact on activity in the countries where we operate and our activity? Now, you saw in our medium-term plan that we want to increase the share of revenues outside of France from about 55% to about 60%. So this is development that will allow us to diversify also our business mix, first point. And then the second point is that we consider that we're very well positioned to support our customers in the developments that will be necessary, i.e., for example, I was talking about aging population. We're very well positioned to support the savings, the development of savings in Europe, thanks to insurance, thanks to asset management, thanks to the deal that we just signed with ICG and private debt, et cetera, et cetera. That's the first point on savings, and in our medium-term plan, we're also committing to support the midcaps in Europe in the way that they contribute to competitiveness of Europe in a certain number of sectors like defense or health or agri or technology. So we're well positioned to navigate in this uncertain environment. The next question is from Siri Tutungi, BNP Paribas. Please go ahead. Hi, everyone, and thank you for taking the questions. So I've got two. The first one will be on Germany. I know you're launching your platform this year, so I'm just wondering what's your strategy to capture market share in a market that's becoming more and more competitive with new entrants? And the second one would be on French retail revenues, so it was really strong this quarter, and the drivers of NII, especially are pretty structural. So I'm just wondering what's preventing us to maybe extrapolate this growth that's quite above the strategic plan revenue target. Thank you. All right. Thank you for your question. How we want to gain market share? So we're being very reasonable in the targets that we have. We want to go from 1 million customers to 2 million customers in Germany. We have savings outstandings that are EUR 15 billion. We want to reach about EUR 30 billion in Germany, and if we expand that to other countries, we're going to reach the EUR 40 billion that we talked about in our medium-term plan. So it's a relatively reasonable target because we're starting on this basis of 1 million customers and EUR 15 billion in outstandings. And as I was saying just before, we think that we're going to have a competitive edge linked to the number of- solutions we can provide in terms of on-balance sheet savings in this digital platform, time deposits, et cetera. So we have a certain number of solutions that should be more numerous than those of other competitors. But recall that Germany is a market where there's a very strong depth in terms of savings. We want to target affluent customers, and so we're relatively optimistic regarding this. First point. The second point, indeed, the net interest income revenue increased strongly in France this quarter, and in particular, in the regional banks, and in the medium-term plan, we have increased an increase- we have in, in included, sorry, an increase in net interest income. The 11%, net interest income that we have seen in French retail this quarter is probably a little bit strong, but for going forward, but in 2026, I think we can say that we will have a high single-digit increase in French retail in 2026. And then maybe coming back, because Cécile and the team were just checking to the corporate center, the minus EUR 400 million I was talking about is indeed a good order of magnitude for a guidance for the net income for the corporate center by 2028. Thank you. For any further questions, please press star and one on your telephone. Gentlemen, Miss L’Angevin, there are no more questions registered at this time. I turn the conference back to you for any closing remarks. Thank you. Thank you very much, everyone, for your attention. So I'm not gonna come back to the results that are very strong this year. I just wanted to make one last point. We talked a lot about the medium-term plan, which is very good because we're really orienting ourselves into this medium-term plan by 2028. And during the medium-term plan, we had promised that we would do a couple of workshops on a couple of businesses. And in particular, we had talked to you about a workshop for LCL in the first half of this year. And so I'm very pleased to ask you to save the date of May 26th, where we will be pleased to host you for an LCL workshop in Paris. And I'm gonna stop there. Thank you, everyone, for your attention, and have a very nice day. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining. The conference is now over, and you may disconnect your telephones.

Speaker 9: Good morning, this is the conference operator. Welcome, and thank you for joining the Crédit Agricole fourth quarter and full year 2025 results conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions by pressing star and one on your telephone. Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, they may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on their telephone. Today's speakers will be Ms. Clotilde L’Angevin, Deputy General Manager of Crédit Agricole, and Mr. Olivier Gavalda, Chief Executive Officer of Crédit Agricole. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Gavalda. Please go ahead, sir. Good morning, this is the conference operator. good morning this is the conference operator Welcome, and thank you for joining the Crédit Agricole fourth quarter and full year 2025 results conference call. welcome and thank you for joining the crédit agricole fourth quarter and full year 2025 results conference call As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode. as a reminder all participants are in listen-only mode After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions by pressing star and one on your telephone. after the presentation there will be an opportunity to ask questions by pressing star and one on your telephone Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, they may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on their telephone. should anyone need assistance during the conference call they may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on their telephone Today's speakers will be Ms. Clotilde L’Angevin, Deputy General Manager of Crédit Agricole, and Mr. Olivier Gavalda, Chief Executive Officer of Crédit Agricole. today's speakers will be ms clotilde l’angevin deputy general manager of crédit agricole and mr olivier gavalda chief executive officer of crédit agricole At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Gavalda. at this time i would like to turn the conference over to mr gavalda Please go ahead, sir. please go ahead sir

Speaker 8: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure for me to share with you the strong results published this morning by Crédit Agricole S.A., that Clotilde will describe extensively in a few minutes. Before that, let me start with a brief introduction and highlight the key commercial and financial figures, as well as give you an outlook for 2026. On this slide, once again, and despite the uncertainties and erratic events in 2025, Crédit Agricole S.A. is posting high results for 2025, reaching again a level above EUR 7 billion, and this performance is supported by a very dynamic commercial activity. Net income group share amounts precisely to EUR 7.1 billion. It is stable level compared to 2024, despite the tax surcharge of EUR 147 million recorded this year. Thank you. thank you Good morning, everyone. good morning everyone It's a pleasure for me to share with you the strong results published this morning by Crédit Agricole S.A., that Clotilde will describe extensively in a few minutes. it's a pleasure for me to share with you the strong results published this morning by crédit agricole s.a that clotilde will describe extensively in a few minutes Before that, let me start with a brief introduction and highlight the key commercial and financial figures, as well as give you an outlook for 2026. before that let me start with a brief introduction and highlight the key commercial and financial figures as well as give you an outlook for 2026 On this slide, once again, and despite the uncertainties and erratic events in 2025, Crédit Agricole S.A. is posting high results for 2025, reaching again a level above EUR 7 billion, and this performance is supported by a very dynamic commercial activity. on this slide once again and despite the uncertainties and erratic events in 2025 crédit agricole s.a is posting high results for 2025 reaching again a level above eur 7 billion and this performance is supported by a very dynamic commercial activity Net income group share amounts precisely to EUR 7.1 billion. net income group share amounts precisely to eur 7.1 billion It is stable level compared to 2024, despite the tax surcharge of EUR 147 million recorded this year. it is stable level compared to 2024 despite the tax surcharge of eur 147 million recorded this year So in fact, excluding this tax surcharge, it is a slight increase. These very good results are driven by an increase in revenues by 3.3%, thanks to a dynamic commercial activity this year, that I will further illustrate in a few minutes. These very good results also translate into strong profitability, with a return on tangible equity of 13.5%, stable compared to last year, and the capacity to distribute a dividend of 14 euros per share, increased by 3% this year. CASA CET1 ratio is above the 11% target. Its level is of 11.8% at the end of December. We confirm that very high solvency level of the group with a CET1 ratio of 17.4%, placing us among the most solid of major European banks. So in fact, excluding this tax surcharge, it is a slight increase. so in fact excluding this tax surcharge it is a slight increase These very good results are driven by an increase in revenues by 3.3%, thanks to a dynamic commercial activity this year, that I will further illustrate in a few minutes. these very good results are driven by an increase in revenues by 3.3% thanks to a dynamic commercial activity this year that i will further illustrate in a few minutes These very good results also translate into strong profitability, with a return on tangible equity of 13.5%, stable compared to last year, and the capacity to distribute a dividend of 14 euros per share, increased by 3% this year. these very good results also translate into strong profitability with a return on tangible equity of 13.5% stable compared to last year and the capacity to distribute a dividend of 14 euros per share increased by 3% this year CASA CET1 ratio is above the 11% target. casa cet1 ratio is above the 11% target Its level is of 11.8% at the end of December. its level is of 11.8% at the end of december We confirm that very high solvency level of the group with a CET1 ratio of 17.4%, placing us among the most solid of major European banks. we confirm that very high solvency level of the group with a cet1 ratio of 17.4% placing us among the most solid of major european banks A few words on the fourth quarter that Clotilde will describe in much more details afterwards. Q4 is impacted by Banco BPM first consolidation for EUR 607 million. Thanks to this consolidation, there will no longer be volatility in the P&L linked to the evolution of Banco BPM share price. As this operation sets the foundation of a regular contribution of Banco BPM to our results, around EUR 100 million per quarter, regarding the 2025 performance of Banco BPM. On the next slide, in 2025, we have experienced numerous commercial successes. A few examples deserve to be highlighted. We have acquired 2.1 million new clients. Best performance in the history of Crédit Agricole. Loan production for our retail banks increased by 15% compared to 2024, reaching EUR 140 billion. A few words on the fourth quarter that Clotilde will describe in much more details afterwards. a few words on the fourth quarter that clotilde will describe in much more details afterwards Q4 is impacted by Banco BPM first consolidation for EUR 607 million. q4 is impacted by banco bpm first consolidation for eur 607 million Thanks to this consolidation, there will no longer be volatility in the P&L linked to the evolution of Banco BPM share price. thanks to this consolidation there will no longer be volatility in the p&l linked to the evolution of banco bpm share price As this operation sets the foundation of a regular contribution of Banco BPM to our results, around EUR 100 million per quarter, regarding the 2025 performance of Banco BPM. as this operation sets the foundation of a regular contribution of banco bpm to our results around eur 100 million per quarter regarding the 2025 performance of banco bpm On the next slide, in 2025, we have experienced numerous commercial successes. on the next slide in 2025 we have experienced numerous commercial successes A few examples deserve to be highlighted. a few examples deserve to be highlighted We have acquired 2.1 million new clients. we have acquired 2.1 million new clients Best performance in the history of Crédit Agricole. best performance in the history of crédit agricole Loan production for our retail banks increased by 15% compared to 2024, reaching EUR 140 billion. loan production for our retail banks increased by 15% compared to 2024 reaching eur 140 billion Insurance premium income set a new record at EUR 52 billion, up 20% compared to 2024. Among these, net inflows were multiplied by 1.6 to reach EUR 58 billion. CACEIS reaches record results, driven by all its business lines across our different geographies. And despite the difficulties incurred by CA PFM in the automotive market in Europe and China, the level of activity remains high, particularly in personal finance. Furthermore, in 2025, Crédit Agricole S.A. continued its momentum in partnership and investments, notably with structuring partnerships and targeted acquisitions in Europe, Asia, and U.S. We can, in particular, mention launch of partnership with Victory Capital in U.S., increase in our stake in Banco BPM in Italy, long-term partnership with Crelan in Belgium, acquisition of non-controlling interests in CACEIS, and major partnership with ICG in private assets. Insurance premium income set a new record at EUR 52 billion, up 20% compared to 2024. insurance premium income set a new record at eur 52 billion up 20% compared to 2024 Among these, net inflows were multiplied by 1.6 to reach EUR 58 billion. among these net inflows were multiplied by 1.6 to reach eur 58 billion CACEIS reaches record results, driven by all its business lines across our different geographies. caceis reaches record results driven by all its business lines across our different geographies And despite the difficulties incurred by CA PFM in the automotive market in Europe and China, the level of activity remains high, particularly in personal finance. and despite the difficulties incurred by ca pfm in the automotive market in europe and china the level of activity remains high particularly in personal finance Furthermore, in 2025, Crédit Agricole S.A. continued its momentum in partnership and investments, notably with structuring partnerships and targeted acquisitions in Europe, Asia, and U.S. furthermore in 2025 crédit agricole s.a continued its momentum in partnership and investments notably with structuring partnerships and targeted acquisitions in europe asia and u.s We can, in particular, mention launch of partnership with Victory Capital in U.S., increase in our stake in Banco BPM in Italy, long-term partnership with Crelan in Belgium, acquisition of non-controlling interests in CACEIS, and major partnership with ICG in private assets. we can in particular mention launch of partnership with victory capital in u.s increase in our stake in banco bpm in italy long-term partnership with crelan in belgium acquisition of non-controlling interests in caceis and major partnership with icg in private assets These key transactions strengthen the group's position as a leading European player, and accelerate its development in high-potential markets. On the next slide, our solid results reinforce the financial ambition set in our strategic plan. All in all, as illustrated in the chart, in pro forma data, those results achieved in 2025 are fully in line with the trajectory of our plan, and reinforce our confidence in our ability to meet objectives we have set regarding our revenue growths, net income group share, return on tangible equity, and cost income ratio. For the cost income ratio, we have reached a peak point, and I'm very confident it should drop in the next quarters. More specifically, 2026 outlook is based on the set of favorable factors. These key transactions strengthen the group's position as a leading European player, and accelerate its development in high-potential markets. these key transactions strengthen the group's position as a leading european player and accelerate its development in high-potential markets On the next slide, our solid results reinforce the financial ambition set in our strategic plan. on the next slide our solid results reinforce the financial ambition set in our strategic plan All in all, as illustrated in the chart, in pro forma data, those results achieved in 2025 are fully in line with the trajectory of our plan, and reinforce our confidence in our ability to meet objectives we have set regarding our revenue growths, net income group share, return on tangible equity, and cost income ratio. all in all as illustrated in the chart in pro forma data those results achieved in 2025 are fully in line with the trajectory of our plan and reinforce our confidence in our ability to meet objectives we have set regarding our revenue growths net income group share return on tangible equity and cost income ratio For the cost income ratio, we have reached a peak point, and I'm very confident it should drop in the next quarters. for the cost income ratio we have reached a peak point and i'm very confident it should drop in the next quarters More specifically, 2026 outlook is based on the set of favorable factors. more specifically 2026 outlook is based on the set of favorable factors In particular, the continuation and acceleration of the commercial momentum, amplified by the rollout of new strategic initiatives of our plan, the gradual integration of recent acquisitions and realization of synergies. The retail banking and personal finance business line in France are expected to continue to benefit from the upturn in margins, whereas mobility activities are set to see a recovery in profitability. Corporate investment banking should continue to perform in the volatile environment. And finally, Banco BPM will now make a recurring and high contribution to profit of around, as I said, EUR 100 million per quarter. Obviously, uncertainties, and you know that, will remain high. In the last slide, as it is, many investments undertaken in 2025 have already materialized or will materialize in the coming weeks and coming months. We are truly off to a running start. In particular, the continuation and acceleration of the commercial momentum, amplified by the rollout of new strategic initiatives of our plan, the gradual integration of recent acquisitions and realization of synergies. in particular the continuation and acceleration of the commercial momentum amplified by the rollout of new strategic initiatives of our plan the gradual integration of recent acquisitions and realization of synergies The retail banking and personal finance business line in France are expected to continue to benefit from the upturn in margins, whereas mobility activities are set to see a recovery in profitability. the retail banking and personal finance business line in france are expected to continue to benefit from the upturn in margins whereas mobility activities are set to see a recovery in profitability Corporate investment banking should continue to perform in the volatile environment. corporate investment banking should continue to perform in the volatile environment And finally, Banco BPM will now make a recurring and high contribution to profit of around, as I said, EUR 100 million per quarter. and finally banco bpm will now make a recurring and high contribution to profit of around as i said eur 100 million per quarter Obviously, uncertainties, and you know that, will remain high. obviously uncertainties and you know that will remain high In the last slide, as it is, many investments undertaken in 2025 have already materialized or will materialize in the coming weeks and coming months. in the last slide as it is many investments undertaken in 2025 have already materialized or will materialize in the coming weeks and coming months We are truly off to a running start. we are truly off to a running start Here are a few examples, starting with our thoughts for acceleration. First, concerning retail banking in France, we can mention that the regional banks have developed, as part of their 2030 ambitions, the 100% digital housing loan journey. LCL has just deployed its digital offering for professionals and is preparing its easy digital offering for individuals. The transformation of LCL is on track. We have launched Indosuez Corporate Advisory to serve mid-size companies, and we can mention also a few upcoming international developments. Particularly, the European savings platform will be launched in April in Germany. In Asia, CACEIS will open a branch in Singapore in 2026. Here are a few examples, starting with our thoughts for acceleration. here are a few examples starting with our thoughts for acceleration First, concerning retail banking in France, we can mention that the regional banks have developed, as part of their 2030 ambitions, the 100% digital housing loan journey. first concerning retail banking in france we can mention that the regional banks have developed as part of their 2030 ambitions the 100% digital housing loan journey LCL has just deployed its digital offering for professionals and is preparing its easy digital offering for individuals. lcl has just deployed its digital offering for professionals and is preparing its easy digital offering for individuals The transformation of LCL is on track. the transformation of lcl is on track We have launched I ndosuez Corporate Advisory to serve mid-size companies, and we can mention also a few upcoming international developments. we have launched i ndosuez corporate advisory to serve mid-size companies and we can mention also a few upcoming international developments Particularly, the European savings platform will be launched in April in Germany. particularly the european savings platform will be launched in april in germany In Asia, CACEIS will open a branch in Singapore in 2026. in asia caceis will open a branch in singapore in 2026 Of course, our transformation and simplification efforts will continue, particularly around AI, as well as our innovation efforts with, for example, CACEIS, CACIB, and Amundi joining forces to launch initiatives in the world of tokenized finance. All these projects and the value created by our recent acquisitions make me very confident about the future. Our development in France, in Italy, in Europe, and in Asia is on track, and our model demonstrated its strength once again. Now it's time to give the floor to Clotilde, who will provide you with a more detailed presentation of our quarterly and annual results. Thank you, and see you soon. Clotilde? Of course, our transformation and simplification efforts will continue, particularly around AI, as well as our innovation efforts with, for example, CACEIS, CACIB, and Amundi joining forces to launch initiatives in the world of tokenized finance. of course our transformation and simplification efforts will continue particularly around ai as well as our innovation efforts with for example caceis cacib and amundi joining forces to launch initiatives in the world of tokenized finance All these projects and the value created by our recent acquisitions make me very confident about the future. all these projects and the value created by our recent acquisitions make me very confident about the future Our development in France, in Italy, in Europe, and in Asia is on track, and our model demonstrated its strength once again. our development in france in italy in europe and in asia is on track and our model demonstrated its strength once again Now it's time to give the floor to Clotilde, who will provide you with a more detailed presentation of our quarterly and annual results. now it's time to give the floor to clotilde who will provide you with a more detailed presentation of our quarterly and annual results Thank you, and see you soon. thank you and see you soon Clotilde? clotilde

Speaker 3: Thank you, Olivier. Hello, everybody. So moving to the slide regarding the key figures, you see here that we have strong annual results, as Olivier was saying, that are in particular stable for CACEIS this year without any form of adjustments. Now, in the quarter, specifically, the results for Group Crédit Agricole and for CACEIS were impacted in particular by Banco BPM effects. One, that I'm going to detail a little bit further down on the revenue front, an impact of the fluctuations in the share price of Banco BPM for EUR 320 million. And another on the net income front, an impact of the first time consolidation of Banco BPM for EUR 607 million. And this explains the decrease in net income by 23.9% for Group Crédit Agricole and by 39.3% for Crédit Agricole S.A. this quarter. Thank you, Olivier. thank you olivier Hello, everybody. hello everybody So moving to the slide regarding the key figures, you see here that we have strong annual results, as Olivier was saying, that are in particular stable for CACEIS this year without any form of adjustments. so moving to the slide regarding the key figures you see here that we have strong annual results as olivier was saying that are in particular stable for caceis this year without any form of adjustments Now, in the quarter, specifically, the results for Group Crédit Agricole and for CACEIS were impacted in particular by Banco BPM effects. now in the quarter specifically the results for group crédit agricole and for caceis were impacted in particular by banco bpm effects One, that I'm going to detail a little bit further down on the revenue front, an impact of the fluctuations in the share price of Banco BPM for EUR 320 million. one that i'm going to detail a little bit further down on the revenue front an impact of the fluctuations in the share price of banco bpm for eur 320 million And another on the net income front, an impact of the first time consolidation of Banco BPM for EUR 607 million. and another on the net income front an impact of the first time consolidation of banco bpm for eur 607 million And this explains the decrease in net income by 23.9% for Group Crédit Agricole and by 39.3% for Crédit Agricole S.A. this quarter. and this explains the decrease in net income by 23.9% for group crédit agricole and by 39.3% for crédit agricole s.a this quarter Now, if we look at the annual results, however, the revenues are record in 2025, both for the group, it increased by 3.9%, and for CACEIS, it increased by 3.3%, thanks to dynamic activity in all the business lines, and in particular for the group, thanks to the rebound in net interest income in France. The growth operating income, as you see, was up this year. Despite the investments that Olivier was talking about, to set the stage for future developments in our medium-term plan, we have operational efficiency that is well managed, with a cost income ratio at 55.7% for CACEIS and 59.6% for the group. The cost of risk is under control. Now, if we look at the annual results, however, the revenues are record in 2025, both for the group, it increased by 3.9%, and for CACEIS, it increased by 3.3%, thanks to dynamic activity in all the business lines, and in particular for the group, thanks to the rebound in net interest income in France. now if we look at the annual results however the revenues are record in 2025 both for the group it increased by 3.9% and for caceis it increased by 3.3% thanks to dynamic activity in all the business lines and in particular for the group thanks to the rebound in net interest income in france The growth operating income, as you see, was up this year. the growth operating income as you see was up this year Despite the investments that Olivier was talking about, to set the stage for future developments in our medium-term plan, we have operational efficiency that is well managed, with a cost income ratio at 55.7% for CACEIS and 59.6% for the group. despite the investments that olivier was talking about to set the stage for future developments in our medium-term plan we have operational efficiency that is well managed with a cost income ratio at 55.7% for caceis and 59.6% for the group The cost of risk is under control. the cost of risk is under control We have a cost of risk on outstandings of 35 basis points, sorry, for CA, compared to 34 last year, and 28 for the group, compared to 27 last year. So all in all, net income group share reached EUR 8.8 billion for the group and EUR 7.1 billion for CA. This is, in particular, stable for CA, despite the impact of the additional corporate tax charge, which is EUR 280 million for the group and EUR 147 million for CA. The increase in net income would have been 1.8% for CA and 4.6% for Crédit Agricole Group, excluding this impact. We have a cost of risk on outstandings of 35 basis points, sorry, for CA, compared to 34 last year, and 28 for the group, compared to 27 last year. we have a cost of risk on outstandings of 35 basis points sorry for ca compared to 34 last year and 28 for the group compared to 27 last year So all in all, net income group share reached EUR 8.8 billion for the group and EUR 7.1 billion for CA. so all in all net income group share reached eur 8.8 billion for the group and eur 7.1 billion for ca This is, in particular, stable for CA, despite the impact of the additional corporate tax charge, which is EUR 280 million for the group and EUR 147 million for CA. this is in particular stable for ca despite the impact of the additional corporate tax charge which is eur 280 million for the group and eur 147 million for ca The increase in net income would have been 1.8% for CA and 4.6% for Crédit Agricole Group, excluding this impact. the increase in net income would have been 1.8% for ca and 4.6% for crédit agricole group excluding this impact Now, if I move to the next slide, activity supported this strong growth in revenues over the year, and in particular, we have activity that was sustained across all of the business lines this quarter and over the year. Now, customer capture was strong, 517,000 this quarter, which brings, brings the total for the year to the 2,100,000 new customers that Olivier was talking about in France, Italy, and Poland, and our customer base is also expanding this year. Activity was strong, in particular in retail banking in France. I talked about it for the group. Loan production was dynamic, driven by the corporate loan production that increased by 14% quarter-on-quarter and 16% year-on-year. Now, if I move to the next slide, activity supported this strong growth in revenues over the year, and in particular, we have activity that was sustained across all of the business lines this quarter and over the year. now if i move to the next slide activity supported this strong growth in revenues over the year and in particular we have activity that was sustained across all of the business lines this quarter and over the year Now, customer capture was strong, 517,000 this quarter, which brings, brings the total for the year to the 2,100,000 new customers that Olivier was talking about in France, Italy, and Poland, and our customer base is also expanding this year. now customer capture was strong 517,000 this quarter which brings brings the total for the year to the 2,100,000 new customers that olivier was talking about in france italy and poland and our customer base is also expanding this year Activity was strong, in particular in retail banking in France. activity was strong in particular in retail banking in france I talked about it for the group. i talked about it for the group Loan production was dynamic, driven by the corporate loan production that increased by 14% quarter-on-quarter and 16% year-on-year. loan production was dynamic driven by the corporate loan production that increased by 14% quarter-on-quarter and 16% year-on-year And the home loan production was also strong, 9% quarter-on-quarter, 21% year-on-year, in particular in the regional banks this quarter. And over the year, we have, again, an increase in market share for the regional banks. International loan production was also strong, in particular in Italy, with a 5.44% growth rate quarter-on-quarter in corporate and individuals, but also, for example, in Poland, thanks to retail. And so outstanding loans increased in all of our markets. On-balance sheet savings also increased in all our markets, and the off-balance sheet savings inflows were dynamic in France and in Italy. And so this translates into the performance of insurance. We had record net inflows over the year in life insurance, EUR 15.9 billion, and this quarter they were strong, driven by France and both by unit-linked in the Eurofund. And the home loan production was also strong, 9% quarter-on-quarter, 21% year-on-year, in particular in the regional banks this quarter. and the home loan production was also strong 9% quarter-on-quarter 21% year-on-year in particular in the regional banks this quarter And over the year, we have, again, an increase in market share for the regional banks. and over the year we have again an increase in market share for the regional banks International loan production was also strong, in particular in Italy, with a 5.44% growth rate quarter-on-quarter in corporate and individuals, but also, for example, in Poland, thanks to retail. international loan production was also strong in particular in italy with a 5.44% growth rate quarter-on-quarter in corporate and individuals but also for example in poland thanks to retail And so outstanding loans increased in all of our markets. and so outstanding loans increased in all of our markets On-balance sheet savings also increased in all our markets, and the off-balance sheet savings inflows were dynamic in France and in Italy. on-balance sheet savings also increased in all our markets and the off-balance sheet savings inflows were dynamic in france and in italy And so this translates into the performance of insurance. and so this translates into the performance of insurance We had record net inflows over the year in life insurance, EUR 15.9 billion, and this quarter they were strong, driven by France and both by unit-linked in the Eurofund. we had record net inflows over the year in life insurance eur 15.9 billion and this quarter they were strong driven by france and both by unit-linked in the eurofund The premium income in insurance is high. It crossed in 2025, the EUR 50 billion threshold with a 20% increase this quarter. Thanks, of course, to savings and retirements. You know that there's a context of increased precautionary savings, but also thanks to the P&C activity, to individual death and disability insurance, and to group insurance. And so P&C activity is growing both in France and internationally, with 17.9 million contracts in our portfolio, and the equipment of our customers continues to increase in all of the new retail networks. In asset management, we have a record level of AUMs of EUR 2,380 billion, thanks mainly to strong inflows. The premium income in insurance is high. the premium income in insurance is high It crossed in 2025, the EUR 50 billion threshold with a 20% increase this quarter. it crossed in 2025 the eur 50 billion threshold with a 20% increase this quarter Thanks, of course, to savings and retirements. thanks of course to savings and retirements You know that there's a context of increased precautionary savings, but also thanks to the P&C activity, to individual death and disability insurance, and to group insurance. you know that there's a context of increased precautionary savings but also thanks to the p&c activity to individual death and disability insurance and to group insurance And so P&C activity is growing both in France and internationally, with 17.9 million contracts in our portfolio, and the equipment of our customers continues to increase in all of the new retail networks. and so p&c activity is growing both in france and internationally with 17.9 million contracts in our portfolio and the equipment of our customers continues to increase in all of the new retail networks In asset management, we have a record level of AUMs of EUR 2,380 billion, thanks mainly to strong inflows. in asset management we have a record level of aums of eur 2,380 billion thanks mainly to strong inflows Olivier was talking about the EUR 88 billion inflows over the year, EUR 21 billion this quarter, thanks to medium to long-term assets into the JVs, and in particular, passive management, and to continued strong momentum in third-party distribution. In wealth management, activity was also strong this quarter, with record net inflows and strong customer capture. In wealth management, just a parenthesis, the integration of the group is well underway. We have 30% of synergies that are already achieved, and this allows us to comfortably confirm our guidance of EUR 150-200 million Net Income Group Share contribution by 2028. In personal finance and mobility, production was also high, EUR 12.1 billion this quarter, thanks in particular to dynamic activity in personal finance. Olivier was talking about the EUR 88 billion inflows over the year, EUR 21 billion this quarter, thanks to medium to long-term assets into the JVs, and in particular, passive management, and to continued strong momentum in third-party distribution. olivier was talking about the eur 88 billion inflows over the year, eur 21 billion this quarter thanks to medium to long-term assets into the jvs and in particular passive management and to continued strong momentum in third-party distribution In wealth management, activity was also strong this quarter, with record net inflows and strong customer capture. in wealth management activity was also strong this quarter with record net inflows and strong customer capture In wealth management, just a parenthesis, the integration of the group is well underway. in wealth management just a parenthesis the integration of the group is well underway We have 30% of synergies that are already achieved, and this allows us to comfortably confirm our guidance of EUR 150-200 million Net Income Group Share contribution by 2028. we have 30% of synergies that are already achieved and this allows us to comfortably confirm our guidance of eur 150-200 million net income group share contribution by 2028 In personal finance and mobility, production was also high, EUR 12.1 billion this quarter, thanks in particular to dynamic activity in personal finance. in personal finance and mobility production was also high eur 12.1 billion this quarter thanks in particular to dynamic activity in personal finance As you know, the automobile activity was impacted this quarter and this year by unfavorable market conditions, but we have managed loans that increase across all segments. Production and leasing was dynamic this quarter, thanks in particular to renewable energy in France and benefiting from the integration of MercaLeasing. And finally, in the large customers division, the CIB confirms its performance with a new record level of Q4 in 2025 revenues, thanks both to market activities, where we had a strong performance in rates and repos activities, and to financing activities, in particular the telco sector in corporate and leveraged finance. And of course, we maintain our leading positions on syndicated loans and bond issuances. As you know, the automobile activity was impacted this quarter and this year by unfavorable market conditions, but we have managed loans that increase across all segments. as you know the automobile activity was impacted this quarter and this year by unfavorable market conditions but we have managed loans that increase across all segments Production and leasing was dynamic this quarter, thanks in particular to renewable energy in France and benefiting from the integration of MercaLeasing. production and leasing was dynamic this quarter thanks in particular to renewable energy in france and benefiting from the integration of mercaleasing And finally, in the large customers division, the CIB confirms its performance with a new record level of Q4 in 2025 revenues, thanks both to market activities, where we had a strong performance in rates and repos activities, and to financing activities, in particular the telco sector in corporate and leveraged finance. and finally in the large customers division the cib confirms its performance with a new record level of q4 in 2025 revenues thanks both to market activities where we had a strong performance in rates and repos activities and to financing activities in particular the telco sector in corporate and leveraged finance And of course, we maintain our leading positions on syndicated loans and bond issuances. and of course we maintain our leading positions on syndicated loans and bond issuances Finally, in asset servicing, we have assets under custody and assets under management that increased this quarter, thanks to positive effects, market effects, sorry, but also to the arrival of new customers. The ISB integration is now finalized. Customer and IT migrations are completed, and the synergies have been achieved at a rate of 66%, and so we're very confident on our guidance of EUR 100 million net income for 2026 contribution of ISB integration. By the way, I was talking about the growth in ISB. Finally, in asset servicing, we have assets under custody and assets under management that increased this quarter, thanks to positive effects, market effects, sorry, but also to the arrival of new customers. finally in asset servicing we have assets under custody and assets under management that increased this quarter thanks to positive effects market effects sorry but also to the arrival of new customers The ISB integration is now finalized. the isb integration is now finalized Customer and IT migrations are completed, and the synergies have been achieved at a rate of 66%, and so we're very confident on our guidance of EUR 100 million net income for 2026 contribution of ISB integration. customer and it migrations are completed and the synergies have been achieved at a rate of 66% and so we're very confident on our guidance of eur 100 million net income for 2026 contribution of isb integration By the way, I was talking about the growth in ISB. by the way i was talking about the growth in isb If you're curious, on slide 41, we have analyzed the majority of our 2015 to 2022 transactions in order to look at the return on investments of these past acquisitions, which is, of course, on average, higher than our 10% limits, 13% as of 2025. It's too early to calculate a three-year ROI for the 2023, 2024 operations. We already have strong ROIs to date, and the synergies are on track for the three main operations of the period. I was talking about ISB for CACEIS, the group, but also ALD, which is very profitable. Now moving to revenues. If you're curious, on slide 41, we have analyzed the majority of our 2015 to 2022 transactions in order to look at the return on investments of these past acquisitions, which is, of course, on average, higher than our 10% limits, 13% as of 2025. if you're curious on slide 41 we have analyzed the majority of our 2015 to 2022 transactions in order to look at the return on investments of these past acquisitions which is of course on average higher than our 10% limits 13% as of 2025 It's too early to calculate a three-year ROI for the 2023, 2024 operations. it's too early to calculate a three-year roi for the 2023 2024 operations We already have strong ROIs to date, and the synergies are on track for the three main operations of the period. we already have strong rois to date and the synergies are on track for the three main operations of the period I was talking about ISB for CACEIS, the group, but also ALD, which is very profitable. i was talking about isb for caceis the group but also ald which is very profitable Now moving to revenues. now moving to revenues So this activity, the dynamism of activity, translates as it has been doing, as you can see on the figure on the right, for the past 10 years, into revenue growth. Now, this quarter, CA revenues were impacted by a negative Banco BPM share valuation of EUR -57 million. And so compared to the Q4 positive effect of EUR 263 million, this valuation impacts the change in revenues by EUR 320 million. Now, recall that until the first consolidation of Banco BPM in December, we had fluctuations in the share price of Banco BPM that impacted our revenues, and so we do still have this fluctuation. And this is why, in particular, we wanted to limit the exposure of our income statement, sorry, to the volatility in Banco BPM's share price. So this activity, the dynamism of activity, translates as it has been doing, as you can see on the figure on the right, for the past 10 years, into revenue growth. so this activity the dynamism of activity translates as it has been doing as you can see on the figure on the right for the past 10 years into revenue growth Now, this quarter, CA revenues were impacted by a negative Banco BPM share valuation of EUR -57 million. now this quarter ca revenues were impacted by a negative banco bpm share valuation of eur -57 million And so compared to the Q4 positive effect of EUR 263 million, this valuation impacts the change in revenues by EUR 320 million. and so compared to the q4 positive effect of eur 263 million this valuation impacts the change in revenues by eur 320 million Now, recall that until the first consolidation of Banco BPM in December, we had fluctuations in the share price of Banco BPM that impacted our revenues, and so we do still have this fluctuation. now recall that until the first consolidation of banco bpm in december we had fluctuations in the share price of banco bpm that impacted our revenues and so we do still have this fluctuation And this is why, in particular, we wanted to limit the exposure of our income statement, sorry, to the volatility in Banco BPM's share price. and this is why in particular we wanted to limit the exposure of our income statement sorry to the volatility in banco bpm's share price This is why we asked, and we received the authorization by the ECB to cross the 20% threshold in order to equity account our stake within the framework of significant influence. This is consistent with our position as a long-term shareholder and partner of Banco BPM. Now, going forward, this stake will be immune to the fluctuation of the share price of Banco BPM, and it's going to generate regular net income of, as Olivier was saying, if we base this on the past income statements of Banco BPM, about EUR 400 million per year. This is strong value creation. Recall that over the past years, we have had strong value creation also, thanks to, in particular, the dividend earnings from Banco BPM. This is why we asked, and we received the authorization by the ECB to cross the 20% threshold in order to equity account our stake within the framework of significant influence. this is why we asked and we received the authorization by the ecb to cross the 20% threshold in order to equity account our stake within the framework of significant influence This is consistent with our position as a long-term shareholder and partner of Banco BPM. this is consistent with our position as a long-term shareholder and partner of banco bpm Now, going forward, this stake will be immune to the fluctuation of the share price of Banco BPM, and it's going to generate regular net income of, as Olivier was saying, if we base this on the past income statements of Banco BPM, about EUR 400 million per year. now going forward this stake will be immune to the fluctuation of the share price of banco bpm and it's going to generate regular net income of as olivier was saying if we base this on the past income statements of banco bpm about eur 400 million per year This is strong value creation. this is strong value creation Recall that over the past years, we have had strong value creation also, thanks to, in particular, the dividend earnings from Banco BPM. recall that over the past years we have had strong value creation also thanks to in particular the dividend earnings from banco bpm All in all, the contribution was EUR 200 million in 2023, about EUR 600 million in 2024, and about EUR 200 million in 2025, including, and I'm going to come back to it just afterwards, the impact of the first consolidation. So you see, we have a strong value creation in our accounts in the past and in the future, thanks to this share in Banco BPM. Now, if I come back to revenues, excluding this EUR 320 million impact, the revenues increased by 2.7% this quarter, and this is thanks to the sustained activity that I was talking about in our business lines. The revenues increased by EUR 60 million in asset gathering. All in all, the contribution was EUR 200 million in 2023, about EUR 600 million in 2024, and about EUR 200 million in 2025, including, and I'm going to come back to it just afterwards, the impact of the first consolidation. all in all the contribution was eur 200 million in 2023 about eur 600 million in 2024 and about eur 200 million in 2025 including and i'm going to come back to it just afterwards the impact of the first consolidation So you see, we have a strong value creation in our accounts in the past and in the future, thanks to this share in Banco BPM. so you see we have a strong value creation in our accounts in the past and in the future thanks to this share in banco bpm Now, if I come back to revenues, excluding this EUR 320 million impact, the revenues increased by 2.7% this quarter, and this is thanks to the sustained activity that I was talking about in our business lines. now if i come back to revenues excluding this eur 320 million impact the revenues increased by 2.7% this quarter and this is thanks to the sustained activity that i was talking about in our business lines The revenues increased by EUR 60 million in asset gathering. the revenues increased by eur 60 million in asset gathering We have a scope effect linked to the Amundi US deconsolidation, but also a scope effect linked to the integration of our insurance activities that are in JV with Banco BPM. And these two scope effects more or less cancel out. Besides this, activity was strong in all of the business lines. Revenues also increased in CIB, despite an unfavorable foreign exchange impact and in asset servicing, thanks to strong fees and commissions income. In SFS, the revenues were impacted by a EUR 30 million base effect that we had talked to you about last year in consumer finance. But on the other hand, we had revenues in leasing that benefited from the integration of MercaLeasing. And besides this, revenues benefited from favorable price and volume effects in consumer finance, which offset the decline in mobility revenues. We have a scope effect linked to the Amundi US deconsolidation, but also a scope effect linked to the integration of our insurance activities that are in JV with Banco BPM. we have a scope effect linked to the amundi us deconsolidation but also a scope effect linked to the integration of our insurance activities that are in jv with banco bpm And these two scope effects more or less cancel out. and these two scope effects more or less cancel out Besides this, activity was strong in all of the business lines. besides this activity was strong in all of the business lines Revenues also increased in CIB, despite an unfavorable foreign exchange impact and in asset servicing, thanks to strong fees and commissions income. revenues also increased in cib despite an unfavorable foreign exchange impact and in asset servicing thanks to strong fees and commissions income In SFS, the revenues were impacted by a EUR 30 million base effect that we had talked to you about last year in consumer finance. in sfs the revenues were impacted by a eur 30 million base effect that we had talked to you about last year in consumer finance But on the other hand, we had revenues in leasing that benefited from the integration of MercaLeasing. but on the other hand we had revenues in leasing that benefited from the integration of mercaleasing And besides this, revenues benefited from favorable price and volume effects in consumer finance, which offset the decline in mobility revenues. and besides this revenues benefited from favorable price and volume effects in consumer finance which offset the decline in mobility revenues You know that we have mobility revenues in our Crédit Agricole Auto Bank entity. Finally, the revenues increased by EUR 91 million in retail banking in all geographies, thanks to the strength of fees and commissions income in Italy and in France. And in France, finally, thanks to the rebound in net interest income. So as you can see, we're starting to see what we talked about in the medium-term plan on net interest income. A net interest income that's going to continue to slightly decrease in 2026 in Italy, but a net interest income that will increase in LCL, by the way, also in regional banks. Thanks to the reduction in the cost of resources, we have a normalization of the customer deposit mix and the rate effect, and thanks to the gradual repricing of loans. You know that we have mobility revenues in our Crédit Agricole Auto Bank entity. you know that we have mobility revenues in our crédit agricole auto bank entity Finally, the revenues increased by EUR 91 million in retail banking in all geographies, thanks to the strength of fees and commissions income in Italy and in France. finally the revenues increased by eur 91 million in retail banking in all geographies thanks to the strength of fees and commissions income in italy and in france And in France, finally, thanks to the rebound in net interest income. and in france finally thanks to the rebound in net interest income So as you can see, we're starting to see what we talked about in the medium-term plan on net interest income. so as you can see we're starting to see what we talked about in the medium-term plan on net interest income A net interest income that's going to continue to slightly decrease in 2026 in Italy, but a net interest income that will increase in LCL, by the way, also in regional banks. a net interest income that's going to continue to slightly decrease in 2026 in italy but a net interest income that will increase in lcl by the way also in regional banks Thanks to the reduction in the cost of resources, we have a normalization of the customer deposit mix and the rate effect, and thanks to the gradual repricing of loans. thanks to the reduction in the cost of resources we have a normalization of the customer deposit mix and the rate effect and thanks to the gradual repricing of loans So all in all, we have growing revenues in the businesses, continuing the dynamics that you observed over the past 10 years. Now, if I move to costs. The cost to income ratio has increased this year at 55.7%, but it remains very under control. It's an increase of 1.3 percentage points after 15 percentage points dropped between 2015 and 2024. And if we look at the quarter, you see that we have a growth by 4.7%, but if we break down the expenses, you'll see a certain number of elements. First, we have scope effects. We have scope effects linked to the deconsolidation of Amundi US, but we also, So all in all, we have growing revenues in the businesses, continuing the dynamics that you observed over the past 10 years. so all in all we have growing revenues in the businesses continuing the dynamics that you observed over the past 10 years Now, if I move to costs. now if i move to costs The cost to income ratio has increased this year at 55.7%, but it remains very under control. the cost to income ratio has increased this year at 55.7% but it remains very under control It's an increase of 1.3 percentage points after 15 percentage points dropped between 2015 and 2024. it's an increase of 1.3 percentage points after 15 percentage points dropped between 2015 and 2024 And if we look at the quarter, you see that we have a growth by 4.7%, but if we break down the expenses, you'll see a certain number of elements. and if we look at the quarter you see that we have a growth by 4.7% but if we break down the expenses you'll see a certain number of elements First, we have scope effects. first we have scope effects We have scope effects linked to the deconsolidation of Amundi US, but we also, we have scope effects linked to the deconsolidation of amundi us but we also negative, but we also have positive scope effects for the integration of insurance entities in partnership with Banco BPM, Bank Teller, and the resumption of depository activities. So these scope effects, as you can see on the right, along with the integration and acquisition costs, they more or less cancel out. First point. The second point, we have restructuring costs. You know that we talked about in the last quarter, about EUR 80 million restructuring costs for Amundi in the context of an optimization plan in France, Italy, Germany, and Australia that will generate EUR 40 million of annual savings from 2026 onwards. We have an addition to that for EUR 8 million this quarter. But more importantly, we have strong restructuring charges in Italy, EUR 65 million. negative, but we also have positive scope effects for the integration of insurance entities in partnership with Banco BPM, Bank Teller, and the resumption of depository activities. negative but we also have positive scope effects for the integration of insurance entities in partnership with banco bpm bank teller and the resumption of depository activities So these scope effects, as you can see on the right, along with the integration and acquisition costs, they more or less cancel out. so these scope effects as you can see on the right along with the integration and acquisition costs they more or less cancel out First point. first point The second point, we have restructuring costs. the second point we have restructuring costs You know that we talked about in the last quarter, about EUR 80 million restructuring costs for Amundi in the context of an optimization plan in France, Italy, Germany, and Australia that will generate EUR 40 million of annual savings from 2026 onwards. you know that we talked about in the last quarter about eur 80 million restructuring costs for amundi in the context of an optimization plan in france italy germany and australia that will generate eur 40 million of annual savings from 2026 onwards We have an addition to that for EUR 8 million this quarter. we have an addition to that for eur 8 million this quarter But more importantly, we have strong restructuring charges in Italy, EUR 65 million. but more importantly we have strong restructuring charges in italy, eur 65 million This is really, as Olivier was saying, to prepare for a medium-term plan, i.e., the growth in digital customer capture, productivity efforts on administrative activities, improved salesforce expertise. Then if we take off the scope effects and restructuring costs, we have a growth that is very limited in recurring expenses, 2.5%. This growth also allows us this growth in recurring expenses also corresponds to investments within our medium-term plan. For example, in LCL, to continue to transform our distribution model, for example, in CIB, in cash management and equity solutions. We're really laying the ground for our medium-term plan with these expenses. Now, if I move to cost of risk. This is really, as Olivier was saying, to prepare for a medium-term plan, i.e., the growth in digital customer capture, productivity efforts on administrative activities, improved salesforce expertise. this is really as olivier was saying to prepare for a medium-term plan i.e the growth in digital customer capture productivity efforts on administrative activities improved salesforce expertise Then if we take off the scope effects and restructuring costs, we have a growth that is very limited in recurring expenses, 2.5%. then if we take off the scope effects and restructuring costs we have a growth that is very limited in recurring expenses 2.5% This growth also allows us this growth in recurring expenses also corresponds to investments within our medium-term plan. this growth also allows us this growth in recurring expenses also corresponds to investments within our medium-term plan For example, in LCL, to continue to transform our distribution model, for example, in CIB, in cash management and equity solutions. for example in lcl to continue to transform our distribution model for example in cib in cash management and equity solutions We're really laying the ground for our medium-term plan with these expenses. we're really laying the ground for our medium-term plan with these expenses Now, if I move to cost of risk. now if i move to cost of risk Cost of risk increased by 5.9% this quarter, but if you look at the stage three incurred cost of risk, you'll see that it's very stable compared to the Q3 and Q2 levels. Now, what are the exceptional items that explain the increase in cost of risk this quarter? There's mainly two exceptional items. The first one is a EUR 41 million provision on the UK car loans litigation. As you know, we have a 2% market share, so it's limited for us. Of course, all of the CA PFM UK entities immediately complied with regulation on, you know, it's the setting of rates by distribution intermediaries. But we are subject, as the other players that have a larger market share, to customer claims related to the past. Cost of risk increased by 5.9% this quarter, but if you look at the stage three incurred cost of risk, you'll see that it's very stable compared to the Q3 and Q2 levels. cost of risk increased by 5.9% this quarter but if you look at the stage three incurred cost of risk you'll see that it's very stable compared to the q3 and q2 levels Now, what are the exceptional items that explain the increase in cost of risk this quarter? now what are the exceptional items that explain the increase in cost of risk this quarter There's mainly two exceptional items. there's mainly two exceptional items The first one is a EUR 41 million provision on the UK car loans litigation. the first one is a eur 41 million provision on the uk car loans litigation As you know, we have a 2% market share, so it's limited for us. as you know we have a 2% market share so it's limited for us Of course, all of the CA PFM UK entities immediately complied with regulation on, you know, it's the setting of rates by distribution intermediaries. of course all of the ca pfm uk entities immediately complied with regulation on you know it's the setting of rates by distribution intermediaries But we are subject, as the other players that have a larger market share, to customer claims related to the past. but we are subject as the other players that have a larger market share to customer claims related to the past We decided to prudently increase our provisioning in the context of an ongoing consultation by FCA, to bring the total stock of our provisions to EUR 88 million. The outcome of the consultation is expected soon, hopefully by the end of the month. The second exceptional effect is a EUR 30 million provision. This corresponds in Italy, again, to a market element. It corresponds to our current estimation of our 5% share of the bailing out of a small digital bank in Italy, which is Banca Progetto, a bailing out by the Italian Deposit Guarantee Scheme. As I was saying, besides these elements, the stage three cost of risk is very close to the Q3 and Q2 levels. We decided to prudently increase our provisioning in the context of an ongoing consultation by FCA, to bring the total stock of our provisions to EUR 88 million. we decided to prudently increase our provisioning in the context of an ongoing consultation by fca to bring the total stock of our provisions to eur 88 million The outcome of the consultation is expected soon, hopefully by the end of the month. the outcome of the consultation is expected soon hopefully by the end of the month The second exceptional effect is a EUR 30 million provision. the second exceptional effect is a eur 30 million provision This corresponds in Italy, again, to a market element. this corresponds in italy again to a market element It corresponds to our current estimation of our 5% share of the bailing out of a small digital bank in Italy, which is Banca Progetto, a bailing out by the Italian Deposit Guarantee Scheme. it corresponds to our current estimation of our 5% share of the bailing out of a small digital bank in italy which is banca progetto a bailing out by the italian deposit guarantee scheme As I was saying, besides these elements, the stage three cost of risk is very close to the Q3 and Q2 levels. as i was saying besides these elements the stage three cost of risk is very close to the q3 and q2 levels 44% of the stage three cost of risk is explained by SFS, where the risk has been relatively stable over the past quarters. Then we have 32% for LCL, with an increase in individual risk on corporates, mainly in retail distribution sector. Then we have a little bit in Italy, in CIB. In CIB, the cost of risk remains very low, with investment-grade customers mainly, and a diversified and a balanced geopolitical risk. So if I conclude on this slide, there's no surge in loan loss provisions, even though, of course, we monitor closely the corporate customers in retail banking, and in particular, for example, small real estate developers, construction, distribution, automobile, textiles, and more generally SMEs. Our lending policy is cautious, and as always, our provisioning is very prudent. As you can see, our main asset quality indicators are very solid. 44% of the stage three cost of risk is explained by SFS, where the risk has been relatively stable over the past quarters. 44% of the stage three cost of risk is explained by sfs where the risk has been relatively stable over the past quarters Then we have 32% for LCL, with an increase in individual risk on corporates, mainly in retail distribution sector. then we have 32% for lcl with an increase in individual risk on corporates mainly in retail distribution sector Then we have a little bit in Italy, in CIB. then we have a little bit in italy in cib In CIB, the cost of risk remains very low, with investment-grade customers mainly, and a diversified and a balanced geopolitical risk. in cib the cost of risk remains very low with investment-grade customers mainly and a diversified and a balanced geopolitical risk So if I conclude on this slide, there's no surge in loan loss provisions, even though, of course, we monitor closely the corporate customers in retail banking, and in particular, for example, small real estate developers, construction, distribution, automobile, textiles, and more generally SMEs. so if i conclude on this slide there's no surge in loan loss provisions even though of course we monitor closely the corporate customers in retail banking and in particular for example small real estate developers construction distribution automobile textiles and more generally smes Our lending policy is cautious, and as always, our provisioning is very prudent. our lending policy is cautious and as always our provisioning is very prudent As you can see, our main asset quality indicators are very solid. as you can see our main asset quality indicators are very solid The cost of risk as a share of outstandings is low, both at CASA and Group. The loan loss reserves are very high, and we have among the best coverage ratios in Europe, both for the group and for CASA. I'm going to move very quickly on to the next slide, just to tell you that for Crédit Agricole Italia in particular, you see that the cost of risk on outstandings is stable at 39 basis points, excluding the Banca Progetto provision. And you see that we have relatively stable cost of risks after very low quarters, by the way, in beginning of 2025 and end of 2024. Moving on to the slide on quarterly results. So we have strong activity, managed operational efficiency, cost of risks that are under control. The cost of risk as a share of outstandings is low, both at CASA and Group. the cost of risk as a share of outstandings is low both at casa and group The loan loss reserves are very high, and we have among the best coverage ratios in Europe, both for the group and for CASA. the loan loss reserves are very high and we have among the best coverage ratios in europe both for the group and for casa I'm going to move very quickly on to the next slide, just to tell you that for Crédit Agricole Italia in particular, you see that the cost of risk on outstandings is stable at 39 basis points, excluding the Banca Progetto provision. i'm going to move very quickly on to the next slide just to tell you that for crédit agricole italia in particular you see that the cost of risk on outstandings is stable at 39 basis points excluding the banca progetto provision And you see that we have relatively stable cost of risks after very low quarters, by the way, in beginning of 2025 and end of 2024. and you see that we have relatively stable cost of risks after very low quarters by the way in beginning of 2025 and end of 2024 Moving on to the slide on quarterly results. moving on to the slide on quarterly results So we have strong activity, managed operational efficiency, cost of risks that are under control. so we have strong activity managed operational efficiency cost of risks that are under control However, our results in the fourth quarter were impacted by two exceptional effects that I'm going to explain in a little bit more detail right now. First of all, a first effect, which is a negative impact, as you can see, on equity accounting of the performance of our JV with Stellantis, which is Leasys, with a minus EUR 111 million contribution. Now, what happened? In CA PFM, we have three growth drivers in 22 countries, and we have two growth drivers that performed well in 2025: the servicing to the bank entities and personal finance, which is restoring its margins. There was one growth driver, mobility, that suffered in 2025 due to market conditions, in particular because the automobile market has been suffering in 2025. However, our results in the fourth quarter were impacted by two exceptional effects that I'm going to explain in a little bit more detail right now. however our results in the fourth quarter were impacted by two exceptional effects that i'm going to explain in a little bit more detail right now First of all, a first effect, which is a negative impact, as you can see, on equity accounting of the performance of our JV with Stellantis, which is Leasys, with a minus EUR 111 million contribution. first of all a first effect which is a negative impact as you can see on equity accounting of the performance of our jv with stellantis which is leasys with a minus eur 111 million contribution Now, what happened? now what happened In CA PFM, we have three growth drivers in 22 countries, and we have two growth drivers that performed well in 2025: the servicing to the bank entities and personal finance, which is restoring its margins. in ca pfm we have three growth drivers in 22 countries and we have two growth drivers that performed well in 2025 the servicing to the bank entities and personal finance which is restoring its margins There was one growth driver, mobility, that suffered in 2025 due to market conditions, in particular because the automobile market has been suffering in 2025. there was one growth driver mobility that suffered in 2025 due to market conditions in particular because the automobile market has been suffering in 2025 On top of that, the car manufacturers that we have close ties with have had specific difficulties. So I'm thinking of GAC in China, I'm thinking of Tesla in Europe, and of course, I'm thinking of Stellantis, with which we have our JV. So the three entities that we have on mobility, one is Crédit Agricole Auto Bank, for which we have growth operating income, which is good. The second one is our JV with GAC, GAC-Sofinco, where production has been impacted, but results are positive, and production is picking up in the last months of the year. And then finally, Leasys. Now, the difficulties faced by Stellantis reduced the attractivity of the range of vehicles. And so Leasys, which is the JV we have, we have with Stellantis, had to make commercial investments, and the performance of remarketing was impacted. On top of that, the car manufacturers that we have close ties with have had specific difficulties. on top of that the car manufacturers that we have close ties with have had specific difficulties So I'm thinking of GAC in China, I'm thinking of Tesla in Europe, and of course, I'm thinking of Stellantis, with which we have our JV. so i'm thinking of gac in china i'm thinking of tesla in europe and of course i'm thinking of stellantis with which we have our jv So the three entities that we have on mobility, one is Crédit Agricole Auto Bank, for which we have growth operating income, which is good. so the three entities that we have on mobility one is crédit agricole auto bank for which we have growth operating income which is good The second one is our JV with GAC, GAC-Sofinco, where production has been impacted, but results are positive, and production is picking up in the last months of the year. the second one is our jv with gac gac-sofinco where production has been impacted but results are positive and production is picking up in the last months of the year And then finally, Leasys. and then finally leasys Now, the difficulties faced by Stellantis reduced the attractivity of the range of vehicles. now the difficulties faced by stellantis reduced the attractivity of the range of vehicles And so Leasys, which is the JV we have, we have with Stellantis, had to make commercial investments, and the performance of remarketing was impacted. and so leasys which is the jv we have we have with stellantis had to make commercial investments and the performance of remarketing was impacted In the Q4, we decided to review all of the remarketing values of our used vehicle portfolios in Leasys, systematically applying a conservative discount compared to market prices. So this impacted the Q4 results, but it's going to strengthen our financial base for Leasys, and it allows Leasys to prepare for a rebound in profitability, because we're well-positioned to benefit from the growth which is coming in the long-term leasing market. We're starting on solid footing, and we also have a strong position, in particular in Italy, number one. And going forward, we're going to roll out new services and insurance solutions focusing on added value. That's the first effect. The second effect is one that you know better, which is the impact of the first consolidation of Banco BPM. In the Q4, we decided to review all of the remarketing values of our used vehicle portfolios in Leasys, systematically applying a conservative discount compared to market prices. in the q4 we decided to review all of the remarketing values of our used vehicle portfolios in leasys systematically applying a conservative discount compared to market prices So this impacted the Q4 results, but it's going to strengthen our financial base for Leasys, and it allows Leasys to prepare for a rebound in profitability, because we're well-positioned to benefit from the growth which is coming in the long-term leasing market. so this impacted the q4 results but it's going to strengthen our financial base for leasys and it allows leasys to prepare for a rebound in profitability because we're well-positioned to benefit from the growth which is coming in the long-term leasing market We're starting on solid footing, and we also have a strong position, in particular in Italy, number one. we're starting on solid footing and we also have a strong position in particular in italy number one And going forward, we're going to roll out new services and insurance solutions focusing on added value. and going forward we're going to roll out new services and insurance solutions focusing on added value That's the first effect. that's the first effect The second effect is one that you know better, which is the impact of the first consolidation of Banco BPM. the second effect is one that you know better which is the impact of the first consolidation of banco bpm So you recall that we acquired Banco BPM shares in tranches, each at a different price. And so when we consolidate for the first time, we decided to take a prudent accounting position, which is to take as reference, the equity value and not the share price. And so we assess at each date of the acquisition, our share of the net assets acquired. So we carve out the fair value effect in PNL OCI for about EUR 1.9 billion. It's negative because the price is higher today than what it was when we bought the shares. And then, conversely, we recognize the goodwill effect, which is the difference between the price of the shares at the moment of the acquisition and the equity value of our participation. And then there's an adjustment to net book value in that position. So you recall that we acquired Banco BPM shares in tranches, each at a different price. so you recall that we acquired banco bpm shares in tranches each at a different price And so when we consolidate for the first time, we decided to take a prudent accounting position, which is to take as reference, the equity value and not the share price. and so when we consolidate for the first time we decided to take a prudent accounting position which is to take as reference the equity value and not the share price And so we assess at each date of the acquisition, our share of the net assets acquired. and so we assess at each date of the acquisition our share of the net assets acquired So we carve out the fair value effect in PNL OCI for about EUR 1.9 billion. so we carve out the fair value effect in pnl oci for about eur 1.9 billion It's negative because the price is higher today than what it was when we bought the shares. it's negative because the price is higher today than what it was when we bought the shares And then, conversely, we recognize the goodwill effect, which is the difference between the price of the shares at the moment of the acquisition and the equity value of our participation. and then conversely we recognize the goodwill effect which is the difference between the price of the shares at the moment of the acquisition and the equity value of our participation And then there's an adjustment to net book value in that position. and then there's an adjustment to net book value in that position And so all in all, since the difference between the price of our participation at the time of consolidation and the equity value of our participation today is positive, we have a PNL impact that's negative. But as I was saying, going forward, we're based upon Banco BPM's past results, we should have an increase of about EUR 100 million of net income per quarter. So this quarterly net income has these exceptional effects that made it a little bit complicated to read. But if you look at annual results, without any form of restatement, we have stable results at EUR 7.1 billion. So we have a certain number of exceptional elements that more or less cancel out. We have the impact of the first consolidation that I talked about of Banco BPM. And so all in all, since the difference between the price of our participation at the time of consolidation and the equity value of our participation today is positive, we have a PNL impact that's negative. and so all in all since the difference between the price of our participation at the time of consolidation and the equity value of our participation today is positive we have a pnl impact that's negative But as I was saying, going forward, we're based upon Banco BPM's past results, we should have an increase of about EUR 100 million of net income per quarter. but as i was saying going forward we're based upon banco bpm's past results we should have an increase of about eur 100 million of net income per quarter So this quarterly net income has these exceptional effects that made it a little bit complicated to read. so this quarterly net income has these exceptional effects that made it a little bit complicated to read But if you look at annual results, without any form of restatement, we have stable results at EUR 7.1 billion. but if you look at annual results without any form of restatement we have stable results at eur 7.1 billion So we have a certain number of exceptional elements that more or less cancel out. so we have a certain number of exceptional elements that more or less cancel out We have the impact of the first consolidation that I talked about of Banco BPM. we have the impact of the first consolidation that i talked about of banco bpm We also have, in the Q2, the capital gain linked to the deconsolidation of Amundi US in the Q2, and we also have an additional corporate tax charge for EUR 147 million. So if you exclude all of these elements on the right of the figure, you see that we have a growth operating income, which increased in 2025 by 1.3%, thanks to buoyant activity in our business lines and thanks to our constant attention to operational efficiency. Cost of risk is under control. So all in all, you remember that we had told you that we would have a stable net income over the year, excluding additional corporate tax. Now, including this, it's stable, and excluding it, net income would had increased by 1.8%. We also have, in the Q2, the capital gain linked to the deconsolidation of Amundi US in the Q2, and we also have an additional corporate tax charge for EUR 147 million. we also have in the q2 the capital gain linked to the deconsolidation of amundi us in the q2 and we also have an additional corporate tax charge for eur 147 million So if you exclude all of these elements on the right of the figure, you see that we have a growth operating income, which increased in 2025 by 1.3%, thanks to buoyant activity in our business lines and thanks to our constant attention to operational efficiency. so if you exclude all of these elements on the right of the figure you see that we have a growth operating income which increased in 2025 by 1.3% thanks to buoyant activity in our business lines and thanks to our constant attention to operational efficiency Cost of risk is under control. cost of risk is under control So all in all, you remember that we had told you that we would have a stable net income over the year, excluding additional corporate tax. so all in all you remember that we had told you that we would have a stable net income over the year excluding additional corporate tax Now, including this, it's stable, and excluding it, net income would had increased by 1.8%. now including this it's stable and excluding it net income would had increased by 1.8% Finally, as indicated by Olivier, the ROTE is high at 13.5%. Pro forma, it's at 13.9%, and this bodes well for our 2028 financial trajectory. Now, if I move to capital. For CASA, recall that the target in our medium-term plan is 11%. So we still have a very high level of CET1 this quarter, 11.8%, about 300 basis points, sorry, above our 8.75% SREP requirement. And this is thanks to, first, retained results, 22 basis points, which are the consequence of the generation of income that I commented before, but also integrating a 50% payout. Finally, as indicated by Olivier, the ROTE is high at 13.5%. finally as indicated by olivier the rote is high at 13.5% Pro forma, it's at 13.9%, and this bodes well for our 2028 financial trajectory. pro forma it's at 13.9% and this bodes well for our 2028 financial trajectory Now, if I move to capital. now if i move to capital For CASA, recall that the target in our medium-term plan is 11%. for casa recall that the target in our medium-term plan is 11% So we still have a very high level of CET1 this quarter, 11.8%, about 300 basis points, sorry, above our 8.75% SREP requirement. so we still have a very high level of cet1 this quarter 11.8% about 300 basis points sorry above our 8.75% srep requirement And this is thanks to, first, retained results, 22 basis points, which are the consequence of the generation of income that I commented before, but also integrating a 50% payout. and this is thanks to first retained results 22 basis points which are the consequence of the generation of income that i commented before but also integrating a 50% payout Payout based upon a distributable net income, which we adjusted to exclude the capital gain related to the deconsolidation of Amundi US for EUR 304 million, it's not a cash effect, and to exclude this accounting effect of the six hundred and seven million PNL impact of the first consolidation of Banco BPM. And so this amounts to a dividend of EUR 1.13 per share, an increase compared to last year of 3%. Now, if I come back to the waterfall, we also have the effect of the organic growth for the business lines, six percentage points, and we have an active management of our balance sheet. Payout based upon a distributable net income, which we adjusted to exclude the capital gain related to the deconsolidation of Amundi US for EUR 304 million, it's not a cash effect, and to exclude this accounting effect of the six hundred and seven million PNL impact of the first consolidation of Banco BPM. payout based upon a distributable net income which we adjusted to exclude the capital gain related to the deconsolidation of amundi us for eur 304 million it's not a cash effect and to exclude this accounting effect of the six hundred and seven million pnl impact of the first consolidation of banco bpm And so this amounts to a dividend of EUR 1.13 per share, an increase compared to last year of 3%. and so this amounts to a dividend of eur 1.13 per share an increase compared to last year of 3% Now, if I come back to the waterfall, we also have the effect of the organic growth for the business lines, six percentage points, and we have an active management of our balance sheet. now if i come back to the waterfall we also have the effect of the organic growth for the business lines six percentage points and we have an active management of our balance sheet In particular, we have optimized, as planned in our medium-term plan, our RWAs through the synthetic risk transfers for about 7 basis points, and this allowed us to re-release 1.6 billion RWAs in CACIB, net, and 0.6 billion in Crédit Agricole Personal Finance and Mobility in the fourth quarter. So we're going to really have an attitude which is scarce resource monitoring, always making sure that the cost of release is accretive. But you see here that we have this active management of the balance sheet, which allows us to compensate, almost the methodological impact in the M&A and others. These M&A, impacts include a +9 basis point impact of Banco BPM. Now, we have a negative impact of the EUR 607 million PNL first consolidation effect that I talked to you about, 14 basis points. In particular, we have optimized, as planned in our medium-term plan, our RWAs through the synthetic risk transfers for about 7 basis points, and this allowed us to re-release 1.6 billion RWAs in CACIB, net, and 0.6 billion in Crédit Agricole Personal Finance and Mobility in the fourth quarter. in particular we have optimized as planned in our medium-term plan our rwas through the synthetic risk transfers for about 7 basis points and this allowed us to re-release 1.6 billion rwas in cacib net and 0.6 billion in crédit agricole personal finance and mobility in the fourth quarter So we're going to really have an attitude which is scarce resource monitoring, always making sure that the cost of release is accretive. so we're going to really have an attitude which is scarce resource monitoring always making sure that the cost of release is accretive But you see here that we have this active management of the balance sheet, which allows us to compensate, almost the methodological impact in the M&A and others. but you see here that we have this active management of the balance sheet which allows us to compensate almost the methodological impact in the m&a and others These M&A, impacts include a +9 basis point impact of Banco BPM. these m&a impacts include a +9 basis point impact of banco bpm Now, we have a negative impact of the EUR 607 million PNL first consolidation effect that I talked to you about, 14 basis points. now we have a negative impact of the eur 607 million pnl first consolidation effect that i talked to you about 14 basis points Then there's naturally, because we have this prudent view regarding our equity accounting, there's a decrease in the prudential value of Banco BPM in our CET1. So we have a positive impact corresponding to the reduction in RWAs corresponding to this decrease. And this is why the impact of the first consolidation is positive for CASA and non-significant for the group because for CASA, this positive impact is stronger because our exemption threshold for the significant participations above 10% had already been full. So this is why we have a different impact between CASA and the group on the next page. This box also includes a share buyback impact, which compensates the Q3 impact of the capital increase for employees in order to neutralize the dilutive impact of that Q3 capital increase. Then there's naturally, because we have this prudent view regarding our equity accounting, there's a decrease in the prudential value of Banco BPM in our CET1. then there's naturally because we have this prudent view regarding our equity accounting there's a decrease in the prudential value of banco bpm in our cet1 So we have a positive impact corresponding to the reduction in RWAs corresponding to this decrease. so we have a positive impact corresponding to the reduction in rwas corresponding to this decrease And this is why the impact of the first consolidation is positive for CASA and non-significant for the group because for CASA, this positive impact is stronger because our exemption threshold for the significant participations above 10% had already been full. and this is why the impact of the first consolidation is positive for casa and non-significant for the group because for casa this positive impact is stronger because our exemption threshold for the significant participations above 10% had already been full So this is why we have a different impact between CASA and the group on the next page. so this is why we have a different impact between casa and the group on the next page This box also includes a share buyback impact, which compensates the Q3 impact of the capital increase for employees in order to neutralize the dilutive impact of that Q3 capital increase. this box also includes a share buyback impact which compensates the q3 impact of the capital increase for employees in order to neutralize the dilutive impact of that q3 capital increase This is 9 basis points, and we have a couple of small M&A impacts, of which is the beginning of the participation in ICG. And finally, we have a few methodological effects. For example, in Italy, we have put in place new retail RWA models. This was included. This is about 15 basis points, and this was included in the 40 basis points methodological impact we announced on our capital markets day. So the waterfall brings us to 11.8%, which is very comfortably above 11%. And then slide CET1 group, Crédit Agricole. Next slide. I'm going to go very quickly on this because I talked about the effects regarding Banco BPM in particular, but I just wanted to insist upon the fact that our objective is not to accumulate CASA at the level, capital at the level of CA SA. This is 9 basis points, and we have a couple of small M&A impacts, of which is the beginning of the participation in ICG. this is 9 basis points and we have a couple of small m&a impacts of which is the beginning of the participation in icg And finally, we have a few methodological effects. and finally we have a few methodological effects For example, in Italy, we have put in place new retail RWA models. for example in italy we have put in place new retail rwa models This was included. this was included This is about 15 basis points, and this was included in the 40 basis points methodological impact we announced on our capital markets day. this is about 15 basis points and this was included in the 40 basis points methodological impact we announced on our capital markets day So the waterfall brings us to 11.8%, which is very comfortably above 11%. so the waterfall brings us to 11.8% which is very comfortably above 11% And then slide CET1 group, Crédit Agricole. and then slide cet1 group crédit agricole Next slide. next slide I'm going to go very quickly on this because I talked about the effects regarding Banco BPM in particular, but I just wanted to insist upon the fact that our objective is not to accumulate CAS A at the level, capital at the level of CA SA. i'm going to go very quickly on this because i talked about the effects regarding banco bpm in particular but i just wanted to insist upon the fact that our objective is not to accumulate cas a at the level capital at the level of ca sa That's why, in terms of solidity, the relevant figure is the CET1 of the group, which is very comfortable at 17.4%, a 760 basis point distance to our SREP requirement. We have organic growth of businesses, and we also have a slight methodological impact regarding the correction of corporate loss given defaults for the regional banks. Leverage ratio is very comfortable. TLAC and MREL ratios are very strong, so we have a very strong capital position at the level of the group. On slide 18, we also have a very comfortable liquidity position, a high level of liquidity reserves at EUR 485 billion. The LCR and NSFR ratios are excellent. That's why, in terms of solidity, the relevant figure is the CET1 of the group, which is very comfortable at 17.4%, a 760 basis point distance to our SREP requirement. that's why in terms of solidity the relevant figure is the cet1 of the group which is very comfortable at 17.4% a 760 basis point distance to our srep requirement We have organic growth of businesses, and we also have a slight methodological impact regarding the correction of corporate loss given defaults for the regional banks. we have organic growth of businesses and we also have a slight methodological impact regarding the correction of corporate loss given defaults for the regional banks Leverage ratio is very comfortable. leverage ratio is very comfortable TLAC and MREL ratios are very strong, so we have a very strong capital position at the level of the group. tlac and mrel ratios are very strong so we have a very strong capital position at the level of the group On slide 18, we also have a very comfortable liquidity position, a high level of liquidity reserves at EUR 485 billion. on slide 18 we also have a very comfortable liquidity position a high level of liquidity reserves at eur 485 billion The LCR and NSFR ratios are excellent. the lcr and nsfr ratios are excellent NSFR is going to be published end of March, but in the Q3, we were close to 120%, for the group, 114% for CACIB. And the group has mobilized various levers to diversify the sources of liquidity, thanks to its universal banking model. One, our customer deposits that are abundant, stable, diversified, and granular. And so our liquidity coverage ratio is very high, above our targets, which is a range between 110% and 130%. On the next slide, we have our transition plan that continues to be organized around three pillars, accelerating of the development of financing to renewables and low-carbon energy sources. That has increased from the first half to 28.6 billion euros in 2025. NSFR is going to be published end of March, but in the Q3, we were close to 120%, for the group, 114% for CACIB. nsfr is going to be published end of march but in the q3 we were close to 120% for the group 114% for cacib And the group has mobilized various levers to diversify the sources of liquidity, thanks to its universal banking model. and the group has mobilized various levers to diversify the sources of liquidity thanks to its universal banking model One, our customer deposits that are abundant, stable, diversified, and granular. one our customer deposits that are abundant stable diversified and granular And so our liquidity coverage ratio is very high, above our targets, which is a range between 110% and 130%. and so our liquidity coverage ratio is very high above our targets which is a range between 110% and 130% On the next slide, we have our transition plan that continues to be organized around three pillars, accelerating of the development of financing to renewables and low-carbon energy sources. on the next slide we have our transition plan that continues to be organized around three pillars accelerating of the development of financing to renewables and low-carbon energy sources That has increased from the first half to 28.6 billion euros in 2025. that has increased from the first half to 28.6 billion euros in 2025 We're also helping our customers in their own transition by providing financing consistently with the group's sustainable asset framework. This has increased this quarter to EUR 116.5 billion. And finally, we continue to decrease our financing to carbon-based energy sources. And so moving on to the next slide, let me conclude by saying that this quarter, net income is impacted by an accounting effect linked to the impact of the first consolidation of Banco BPM and by the difficulties of the automobile market. These two elements should, in fact, disappear in 2026, and contributes, on the other hand, to growth, thanks to the growth in mobility and thanks to the regular high and recurring profit contribution of Banco BPM. We're also helping our customers in their own transition by providing financing consistently with the group's sustainable asset framework. we're also helping our customers in their own transition by providing financing consistently with the group's sustainable asset framework This has increased this quarter to EUR 116.5 billion. this has increased this quarter to eur 116.5 billion And finally, we continue to decrease our financing to carbon-based energy sources. and finally we continue to decrease our financing to carbon-based energy sources And so moving on to the next slide, let me conclude by saying that this quarter, net income is impacted by an accounting effect linked to the impact of the first consolidation of Banco BPM and by the difficulties of the automobile market. and so moving on to the next slide let me conclude by saying that this quarter net income is impacted by an accounting effect linked to the impact of the first consolidation of banco bpm and by the difficulties of the automobile market These two elements should, in fact, disappear in 2026, and contributes, on the other hand, to growth, thanks to the growth in mobility and thanks to the regular high and recurring profit contribution of Banco BPM. these two elements should in fact disappear in 2026 and contributes on the other hand to growth thanks to the growth in mobility and thanks to the regular high and recurring profit contribution of banco bpm Activity was sustained in all of the business lines, with record inflows, outstandings, and premiums income and asset gathering, record performance in CIB, a strong pickup in net interest income in France. The fourth quarter, as Olivier was saying, marks the beginning of the medium-term plan, and we have already started rolling out the different dimensions of our plan in retail banking in France, in Germany, in terms of innovation and efficiency. And so the growth operating income increased in 2025 for CACEIS and the group. Income is high at EUR 7.1 billion, and this strong performance allows us to post high profitability with a ROTE of 13.5%, and to propose to the general assembly an increasing dividend. So we're very much on track to meet our 2028 financial targets. I'm going to stop here. Activity was sustained in all of the business lines, with record inflows, outstandings, and premiums income and asset gathering, record performance in CIB, a strong pickup in net interest income in France. activity was sustained in all of the business lines with record inflows outstandings and premiums income and asset gathering record performance in cib a strong pickup in net interest income in france The fourth quarter, as Olivier was saying, marks the beginning of the medium-term plan, and we have already started rolling out the different dimensions of our plan in retail banking in France, in Germany, in terms of innovation and efficiency. the fourth quarter as olivier was saying marks the beginning of the medium-term plan and we have already started rolling out the different dimensions of our plan in retail banking in france in germany in terms of innovation and efficiency And so the growth operating income increased in 2025 for CACEIS and the group. and so the growth operating income increased in 2025 for caceis and the group Income is high at EUR 7.1 billion, and this strong performance allows us to post high profitability with a ROTE of 13.5%, and to propose to the general assembly an increasing dividend. income is high at eur 7.1 billion and this strong performance allows us to post high profitability with a rote of 13.5% and to propose to the general assembly an increasing dividend So we're very much on track to meet our 2028 financial targets. so we're very much on track to meet our 2028 financial targets I'm going to stop here. i'm going to stop here Thank you very much for your attention. We can now open the floor to your questions. Thank you very much for your attention. thank you very much for your attention We can now open the floor to your questions. we can now open the floor to your questions

Speaker 9: This is the conference operator. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your touchtone telephone. To remove yourself from the question queue, please press star and two. Please pick up the receiver when asking questions. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. The first question is from Jacques-Henri Gaulard, Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead. This is the conference operator. this is the conference operator We will now begin the question-and-answer session. we will now begin the question-and-answer session Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your touchtone telephone. anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your touchtone telephone To remove yourself from the question queue, please press star and two. to remove yourself from the question queue please press star and two Please pick up the receiver when asking questions. please pick up the receiver when asking questions Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time The first question is from Jacques-Henri Gaulard, Kepler Cheuvreux. the first question is from jacques-henri gaulard kepler cheuvreux Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 5: Yes, good morning, all of you. The question is a bit conceptual, but when I look at your results and revenues in particular versus consensus, I mean, very strong activity everywhere. You've beaten. It's very strong, but at the same time, Clotilde, I feel for you because you spent the last 45 minutes literally going through every single one-off and restructuring and everything, and at the end of the day, you know, your stock is down 3%, which, you know, I think is a bit harsh. So, I mean, I totally appreciate the whole non-recurring aspects of Banco BPM and everything. Yes, good morning, all of you. yes good morning all of you The question is a bit conceptual, but when I look at your results and revenues in particular versus consensus, I mean, very strong activity everywhere. the question is a bit conceptual but when i look at your results and revenues in particular versus consensus i mean very strong activity everywhere You've beaten. you've beaten It's very strong, but at the same time, Clotilde, I feel for you because you spent the last 45 minutes literally going through every single one-off and restructuring and everything, and at the end of the day, you know, your stock is down 3%, which, you know, I think is a bit harsh. it's very strong but at the same time clotilde i feel for you because you spent the last 45 minutes literally going through every single one-off and restructuring and everything and at the end of the day you know your stock is down 3% which you know i think is a bit harsh So, I mean, I totally appreciate the whole non-recurring aspects of Banco BPM and everything. so i mean i totally appreciate the whole non-recurring aspects of banco bpm and everything You've explained the legal cases, but is it fair to say that the reason why you ended up with that accumulation of non-recurring aspect is probably due to the fact that you have a plan coming, and you need a bit of a reset for a perimeter you feel comfortable with over the next three years and everything? Or is it actually, you know, the problems of having a decentralized structure, which means that, you know, you end up at the end of each quarter with an accumulation of things that were not necessarily planned at the beginning? Just to try to figure out when we can actually expect something quite clean, if you see what I mean. Thank you very much. You've explained the legal cases, but is it fair to say that the reason why you ended up with that accumulation of non-recurring aspect is probably due to the fact that you have a plan coming, and you need a bit of a reset for a perimeter you feel comfortable with over the next three years and everything? you've explained the legal cases but is it fair to say that the reason why you ended up with that accumulation of non-recurring aspect is probably due to the fact that you have a plan coming and you need a bit of a reset for a perimeter you feel comfortable with over the next three years and everything Or is it actually, you know, the problems of having a decentralized structure, which means that, you know, you end up at the end of each quarter with an accumulation of things that were not necessarily planned at the beginning? or is it actually you know the problems of having a decentralized structure which means that you know you end up at the end of each quarter with an accumulation of things that were not necessarily planned at the beginning Just to try to figure out when we can actually expect something quite clean, if you see what I mean. just to try to figure out when we can actually expect something quite clean if you see what i mean Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 3: Yes. Thank you, Jacques-Henri. I see what you mean, and thank you for filling for me for this 45 minutes. It's true that we really want to set the stage for the medium-term plan, and so that's why we were very satisfied when we received the authorization from the ECB to equity account our stake in Banco BPM, because that's going to reduce fluctuations and provide high recurring profit going forward. We intentionally accounted for the restructuring costs in Amundi and Crédit Agricole Italia in 2025, because this again sets the stage for our medium-term plan, and growth going forward in retail, in asset management. But we're also, I didn't talk about it too much, but we're also investing also in CIB, in LCL. Yes. yes Thank you, Jacques-Henri. thank you jacques-henri I see what you mean, and thank you for filling for me for this 45 minutes. i see what you mean and thank you for filling for me for this 45 minutes It's true that we really want to set the stage for the medium-term plan, and so that's why we were very satisfied when we received the authorization from the ECB to equity account our stake in Banco BPM, because that's going to reduce fluctuations and provide high recurring profit going forward. it's true that we really want to set the stage for the medium-term plan and so that's why we were very satisfied when we received the authorization from the ecb to equity account our stake in banco bpm because that's going to reduce fluctuations and provide high recurring profit going forward We intentionally accounted for the restructuring costs in Amundi and Crédit Agricole Italia in 2025, because this again sets the stage for our medium-term plan, and growth going forward in retail, in asset management. we intentionally accounted for the restructuring costs in amundi and crédit agricole italia in 2025 because this again sets the stage for our medium-term plan and growth going forward in retail in asset management But we're also, I didn't talk about it too much, but we're also investing also in CIB, in LCL. but we're also i didn't talk about it too much but we're also investing also in cib in lcl So the costs that you have this quarter really reflect this investment that we have for the future in our medium-term plan. Now, there are a few one-offs that don't depend on us, in fact, regarding, in particular, the UK provision and the Banca Progetto restructuring. And we have this issue in terms of the automobile market, but all of this should pick up. And I, I think what we really want—what I really want to insist upon, is the fact that we have really an outlook that's going to be strong for 2026, because we also have the integration of the recent acquisitions. That's also something that's going to pick up. We no longer have these integration costs for CACEIS. So the costs that you have this quarter really reflect this investment that we have for the future in our medium-term plan. so the costs that you have this quarter really reflect this investment that we have for the future in our medium-term plan Now, there are a few one-offs that don't depend on us, in fact, regarding, in particular, the UK provision and the Banca Progetto restructuring. now there are a few one-offs that don't depend on us in fact regarding in particular the uk provision and the banca progetto restructuring And we have this issue in terms of the automobile market, but all of this should pick up. and we have this issue in terms of the automobile market but all of this should pick up And I, I think what we really want—what I really want to insist upon, is the fact that we have really an outlook that's going to be strong for 2026, because we also have the integration of the recent acquisitions. and i i think what we really want—what i really want to insist upon is the fact that we have really an outlook that's going to be strong for 2026 because we also have the integration of the recent acquisitions That's also something that's going to pick up. that's also something that's going to pick up We no longer have these integration costs for CACEIS. we no longer have these integration costs for caceis We have very limited integration costs that are going to be coming in 2026 for Degroof, but it's going to be limited. And as you can see, we're on the slide, on the sixth, we really have a lot of tailwinds going forward, in particular with margins that are going to pick up, in particular for French retail and for consumer finance. And of course, performance continues to be very strong in CIB and Crédit Agricole Assurance. We have very limited integration costs that are going to be coming in 2026 for Degroof, but it's going to be limited. we have very limited integration costs that are going to be coming in 2026 for degroof but it's going to be limited And as you can see, we're on the slide, on the sixth, we really have a lot of tailwinds going forward, in particular with margins that are going to pick up, in particular for French retail and for consumer finance. and as you can see we're on the slide on the sixth we really have a lot of tailwinds going forward in particular with margins that are going to pick up in particular for french retail and for consumer finance And of course, performance continues to be very strong in CIB and Crédit Agricole Assurance. and of course performance continues to be very strong in cib and crédit agricole assurance

Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 9: The next question is from Tarik El Mejjad, at Bank of America. Please go ahead. The next question is from Tarik El Mejjad, at Bank of America. the next question is from tarik el mejjad at bank of america Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 13: Hi, good morning. A few questions on my side as well. First of all, I mean, given the restatements you've done for the BPM on the, your accounts, this was very helpful. Would you guide for an increasing net income year-over-year from the, restated, EUR 7.27 billion in 2025, given all the moving parts? Consensus has that, flat or slightly down, which I think is, is a bit too cautious. And the second question is on capital and distribution. I mean, you've, you've been increasing your DPS, but still accumulating excess capital. Hi, good morning. hi good morning A few questions on my side as well. a few questions on my side as well First of all, I mean, given the restatements you've done for the BPM on the, your accounts, this was very helpful. first of all i mean given the restatements you've done for the bpm on the your accounts this was very helpful Would you guide for an increasing net income year-over-year from the, restated, EUR 7.27 billion in 2025, given all the moving parts? would you guide for an increasing net income year-over-year from the restated eur 7.27 billion in 2025 given all the moving parts Consensus has that, flat or slightly down, which I think is, is a bit too cautious. consensus has that flat or slightly down which i think is is a bit too cautious And the second question is on capital and distribution. and the second question is on capital and distribution I mean, you've, you've been increasing your DPS, but still accumulating excess capital. i mean you've you've been increasing your dps but still accumulating excess capital So you've just presented your plan, so there's no policy increase, policy distribution and so on, but just want to hear you in terms of your plans, in terms of what areas you could do some bolt-on and where you see good use of capital. And then talking about this bolt-on, I mean, you had a very interesting chart, slide 41, showing the ROI for the previous M&A deals. I mean, I already picked up on this with you, Clotilde, on the CMD, when you said that 10% ROI, or both 10% ROI is satisfactory. I thought it was quite a low number, but now I look at what you've done so far, you know, between 11% and 13%. So you've just presented your plan, so there's no policy increase, policy distribution and so on, but just want to hear you in terms of your plans, in terms of what areas you could do some bolt-on and where you see good use of capital. so you've just presented your plan so there's no policy increase policy distribution and so on but just want to hear you in terms of your plans in terms of what areas you could do some bolt-on and where you see good use of capital And then talking about this bolt-on, I mean, you had a very interesting chart, slide 41, showing the ROI for the previous M&A deals. and then talking about this bolt-on i mean you had a very interesting chart slide 41 showing the roi for the previous m&a deals I mean, I already picked up on this with you, Clotilde, on the CMD, when you said that 10% ROI, or both 10% ROI is satisfactory. i mean i already picked up on this with you clotilde on the cmd when you said that 10% roi or both 10% roi is satisfactory I thought it was quite a low number, but now I look at what you've done so far, you know, between 11% and 13%. i thought it was quite a low number but now i look at what you've done so far you know between 11% and 13% I mean, is that something really you, you've kind of expected from the origination of those deals? Or you were hoping for better than that and been disappointed by the integration? Thank you. I mean, is that something really you, you've kind of expected from the origination of those deals? i mean is that something really you you've kind of expected from the origination of those deals Or you were hoping for better than that and been disappointed by the integration? or you were hoping for better than that and been disappointed by the integration Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Thank you, Tariq, for your question. Now, regarding guidance, I think really what I want to go back to is what Olivier was saying in terms of how we're setting the stage for the plan, for the Act 2028 plan. So indeed, if you look at pro forma, we have a 7.3 net income group share in 2025, and so we're well on track to reach our target, which is to go beyond 8.5% in 2028. But as you know, we really like to remain on, multi-annual targets. In terms of cost to income, what I can tell you maybe more precisely, however, is that the 57.4% pro forma cost to income is a peak. It should go down next year. Thank you, Tariq, for your question. thank you tariq for your question Now, regarding guidance, I think really what I want to go back to is what Olivier was saying in terms of how we're setting the stage for the plan, for the Act 2028 plan. now regarding guidance i think really what i want to go back to is what olivier was saying in terms of how we're setting the stage for the plan for the act 2028 plan So indeed, if you look at pro forma, we have a 7.3 net income group share in 2025, and so we're well on track to reach our target, which is to go beyond 8.5% in 2028. so indeed if you look at pro forma we have a 7.3 net income group share in 2025 and so we're well on track to reach our target which is to go beyond 8.5% in 2028 But as you know, we really like to remain on, multi-annual targets. but as you know we really like to remain on multi-annual targets In terms of cost to income, what I can tell you maybe more precisely, however, is that the 57.4% pro forma cost to income is a peak. in terms of cost to income what i can tell you maybe more precisely however is that the 57.4% pro forma cost to income is a peak It should go down next year. it should go down next year So 2026 cost to income should be lower than what it was in 2025. On the other elements, in terms of revenues, net income, and ROTE, what I can just tell you is that all of this, we're on track to increase. And it's true that the 13.9% pro forma ROTE of 2025 really bodes well for the future, and I think we can really say that the 14% target for 2028 is really a minimum. Now, you were talking on organic bolt-ons. You know that our track record is really based upon a mix of organic and a mix of bolt-ons. So 2026 cost to income should be lower than what it was in 2025. so 2026 cost to income should be lower than what it was in 2025 On the other elements, in terms of revenues, net income, and ROTE, what I can just tell you is that all of this, we're on track to increase. on the other elements in terms of revenues net income and rote what i can just tell you is that all of this we're on track to increase And it's true that the 13.9% pro forma ROTE of 2025 really bodes well for the future, and I think we can really say that the 14% target for 2028 is really a minimum. and it's true that the 13.9% pro forma rote of 2025 really bodes well for the future and i think we can really say that the 14% target for 2028 is really a minimum Now, you were talking on organic bolt-ons. now you were talking on organic bolt-ons You know that our track record is really based upon a mix of organic and a mix of bolt-ons. you know that our track record is really based upon a mix of organic and a mix of bolt-ons In the capital markets today, we talked to you about the fact that we had revenue growth that was 70% organic and 30% external growth, and that's why we had a revenue growth that was more than 5% over the past six years, and we're targeting a revenue growth of 3.5% in this medium-term plan. This is supposing that there would only be organic growth. We do hope we will do external growth operations. As you were saying, Tarik, we do have very strict financial criteria. So thank you for pointing out slide 41, and so thank you for Cécile and this team, and by the way, who prepared this slide. We take into account ROI, of course, and we're happy to have these figures. In the capital markets today, we talked to you about the fact that we had revenue growth that was 70% organic and 30% external growth, and that's why we had a revenue growth that was more than 5% over the past six years, and we're targeting a revenue growth of 3.5% in this medium-term plan. in the capital markets today we talked to you about the fact that we had revenue growth that was 70% organic and 30% external growth and that's why we had a revenue growth that was more than 5% over the past six years and we're targeting a revenue growth of 3.5% in this medium-term plan This is supposing that there would only be organic growth. this is supposing that there would only be organic growth We do hope we will do external growth operations. we do hope we will do external growth operations As you were saying, Tarik, we do have very strict financial criteria. as you were saying tarik we do have very strict financial criteria So thank you for pointing out slide 41, and so thank you for Cécile and this team, and by the way, who prepared this slide. so thank you for pointing out slide 41 and so thank you for cécile and this team and by the way who prepared this slide We take into account ROI, of course, and we're happy to have these figures. we take into account roi of course and we're happy to have these figures The 10% figure is a minimum, but there's also other criteria that we take into account, and we talked about it in the capital market day. We have to have operations that are accretive in terms of ROTE. We have to have a demonstrated integration capacity by the businesses integrating. We have to have revenues and cost synergies. And of course, these operations have to be very well aligned with our strategy. And so to answer maybe your question as to what we can see in terms of bolt-ons, it's gonna be linked with our strategy. Olivier was talking about the fact that we want to develop, in terms of, in France, in Europe, in Germany. We want to develop in Asia. We want to support the savings development in Europe in particular. The 10% figure is a minimum, but there's also other criteria that we take into account, and we talked about it in the capital market day. the 10% figure is a minimum but there's also other criteria that we take into account and we talked about it in the capital market day We have to have operations that are accretive in terms of ROTE. we have to have operations that are accretive in terms of rote We have to have a demonstrated integration capacity by the businesses integrating. we have to have a demonstrated integration capacity by the businesses integrating We have to have revenues and cost synergies. we have to have revenues and cost synergies And of course, these operations have to be very well aligned with our strategy. and of course these operations have to be very well aligned with our strategy And so to answer maybe your question as to what we can see in terms of bolt-ons, it's gonna be linked with our strategy. and so to answer maybe your question as to what we can see in terms of bolt-ons it's gonna be linked with our strategy Olivier was talking about the fact that we want to develop, in terms of, in France, in Europe, in Germany. olivier was talking about the fact that we want to develop in terms of in france in europe in germany We want to develop in Asia. we want to develop in asia We want to support the savings development in Europe in particular. we want to support the savings development in europe in particular We want to support the development of corporates, in particular with midcaps, in Europe. More generally, we were talking about these different triangles of growth, where the midcaps and the corporates are going to support the competitiveness of Europe. All these are areas where we want to continue to develop, and all of the business lines that you see, by the way, on slide 41, all of the business lines have critical size, are profitable, and so are very well positioned to continue to seizing opportunities if they appear. But we're really in an opportunistic mode because our medium-term plan, we can reach the targets through solely through organic growth. We want to support the development of corporates, in particular with midcaps, in Europe. we want to support the development of corporates in particular with midcaps in europe More generally, we were talking about these different triangles of growth, where the midcaps and the corporates are going to support the competitiveness of Europe. more generally we were talking about these different triangles of growth where the midcaps and the corporates are going to support the competitiveness of europe All these are areas where we want to continue to develop, and all of the business lines that you see, by the way, on slide 41, all of the business lines have critical size, are profitable, and so are very well positioned to continue to seizing opportunities if they appear. all these are areas where we want to continue to develop and all of the business lines that you see by the way on slide 41 all of the business lines have critical size are profitable and so are very well positioned to continue to seizing opportunities if they appear But we're really in an opportunistic mode because our medium-term plan, we can reach the targets through solely through organic growth. but we're really in an opportunistic mode because our medium-term plan we can reach the targets through solely through organic growth

Speaker 13: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 9: The next question is from Delphine Lee, J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead. The next question is from Delphine Lee, J.P. the next question is from delphine lee j.p Morgan. morgan Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 4: Yes, good morning. Thanks for hosting the call, Clotilde, and thanks for the presentation. I have two questions. On the first one, if I can ask on sort of, you know, your comments, going back to your comments on 2026 outlook, when you mentioned the headwinds on NII for Italy, CACEIS, and, and wealth management. I'm just wondering, you know, is that just you trying to be conservative? Because, you know, you do have already volume growth, and NII has stabilized in Italy. Shouldn't volume be able to offset the rate headwinds? Just if you could give a bit of color on that. The second thing is, you know, if, do you mind just, like, expanding a little bit and elaborating more about, you know, sort of thesis and, and GAC-Sofinco in China? Yes, good morning. yes good morning Thanks for hosting the call, Clotilde, and thanks for the presentation. thanks for hosting the call clotilde and thanks for the presentation I have two questions. i have two questions On the first one, if I can ask on sort of, you know, your comments, going back to your comments on 2026 outlook, when you mentioned the headwinds on NII for Italy, CACEIS, and, and wealth management. on the first one if i can ask on sort of you know your comments going back to your comments on 2026 outlook when you mentioned the headwinds on nii for italy caceis and and wealth management I'm just wondering, you know, is that just you trying to be conservative? i'm just wondering you know is that just you trying to be conservative Because, you know, you do have already volume growth, and NII has stabilized in Italy. because you know you do have already volume growth and nii has stabilized in italy Shouldn't volume be able to offset the rate headwinds? shouldn't volume be able to offset the rate headwinds Just if you could give a bit of color on that. just if you could give a bit of color on that The second thing is, you know, if, do you mind just, like, expanding a little bit and elaborating more about, you know, sort of thesis and, and GAC-Sofinco in China? the second thing is you know if do you mind just like expanding a little bit and elaborating more about you know sort of thesis and and gac-sofinco in china Because, I mean, how quickly can we see a rebound in your associate income? Production is picking up, it seems, in China, but, like, how quickly can we see that already in the numbers? And, you know, how can we measure the sort of the implications of the write-down you've done on this, this quarter in terms of, you know, what that means for, you know, 2026 and 2027? Thank you. Because, I mean, how quickly can we see a rebound in your associate income? because i mean how quickly can we see a rebound in your associate income Production is picking up, it seems, in China, but, like, how quickly can we see that already in the numbers? production is picking up it seems in china but like how quickly can we see that already in the numbers And, you know, how can we measure the sort of the implications of the write-down you've done on this, this quarter in terms of, you know, what that means for, you know, 2026 and 2027? and you know how can we measure the sort of the implications of the write-down you've done on this this quarter in terms of you know what that means for you know 2026 and 2027 Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you for your question, Delphine. Yeah, we have tailwinds for net interest income in France, but we do have headwinds for net interest income, as you were saying, in Italy, in CACEIS and wealth management. We're, of course, hoping that volumes are going to pick up, and we have dynamism in commissions, but it's true that there is a rate effect that we see, in Italy. The decrease in net interest income in Italy should not be that significant. On the other hand, the increase in net income, the interest income in France, should be a little bit stronger, in particular for LCL, and of course, in the regional banks, which also are going to support, which is also going to support growth in the regional banks, which is always good for the activity of the business lines of CA. Thank you. thank you Thank you for your question, Delphine. thank you for your question delphine Yeah, we have tailwinds for net interest income in France, but we do have headwinds for net interest income, as you were saying, in Italy, in CACEIS and wealth management. yeah we have tailwinds for net interest income in france but we do have headwinds for net interest income as you were saying in italy in caceis and wealth management We're, of course, hoping that volumes are going to pick up, and we have dynamism in commissions, but it's true that there is a rate effect that we see, in Italy. we're of course hoping that volumes are going to pick up and we have dynamism in commissions but it's true that there is a rate effect that we see in italy The decrease in net interest income in Italy should not be that significant. the decrease in net interest income in italy should not be that significant On the other hand, the increase in net income, the interest income in France, should be a little bit stronger, in particular for LCL, and of course, in the regional banks, which also are going to support, which is also going to support growth in the regional banks, which is always good for the activity of the business lines of CA. on the other hand the increase in net income the interest income in france should be a little bit stronger in particular for lcl and of course in the regional banks which also are going to support which is also going to support growth in the regional banks which is always good for the activity of the business lines of ca So relatively reasonable headwinds on net interest income in Italy. Now, if I come back a little bit to Leasys and to China. So let me just maybe talk about China a little bit, because I didn't go too much into detail about that. Because, in fact, the production had slowed down in the first quarters of the year, in particular, I talked to you about that in the Q2 and in the Q3 in China. And in fact, we have had in the Q2, 2025, an event where the Chinese authorities imposed a 5% floor to the commissions, which caused the market to normalize because we had had the entry onto the market of, banks, which caused competitive conditions on the market. And so production is picking up. So relatively reasonable headwinds on net interest income in Italy. so relatively reasonable headwinds on net interest income in italy Now, if I come back a little bit to Leasys and to China. now if i come back a little bit to leasys and to china So let me just maybe talk about China a little bit, because I didn't go too much into detail about that. so let me just maybe talk about china a little bit because i didn't go too much into detail about that Because, in fact, the production had slowed down in the first quarters of the year, in particular, I talked to you about that in the Q2 and in the Q3 in China. because in fact the production had slowed down in the first quarters of the year in particular i talked to you about that in the q2 and in the q3 in china And in fact, we have had in the Q2, 2025, an event where the Chinese authorities imposed a 5% floor to the commissions, which caused the market to normalize because we had had the entry onto the market of, banks, which caused competitive conditions on the market. and in fact we have had in the q2 2025 an event where the chinese authorities imposed a 5% floor to the commissions which caused the market to normalize because we had had the entry onto the market of banks which caused competitive conditions on the market And so production is picking up. and so production is picking up December was the highest month of the year for GAC-Sofinco and GAC Leasing. But the effect of this normalization, it's gonna take a few quarters to come into the income, because the average duration of these loans is a little bit more than 30 months. So we have to be cautious, but nevertheless, GAC has also begun to diversify its activities to the used car financing, for example, to the development of new services. So I think reasonably we could consider that China's income could stabilize in 2026 compared to 2025, and hopefully it's gonna pick up going after that. Now, for Leasys, there's gonna be drivers of profitability going forward for Leasys and for mobility more generally. December was the highest month of the year for GAC-Sofinco and GAC Leasing. december was the highest month of the year for gac-sofinco and gac leasing But the effect of this normalization, it's gonna take a few quarters to come into the income, because the average duration of these loans is a little bit more than 30 months. but the effect of this normalization it's gonna take a few quarters to come into the income because the average duration of these loans is a little bit more than 30 months So we have to be cautious, but nevertheless, GAC has also begun to diversify its activities to the used car financing, for example, to the development of new services. so we have to be cautious but nevertheless gac has also begun to diversify its activities to the used car financing for example to the development of new services So I think reasonably we could consider that China's income could stabilize in 2026 compared to 2025, and hopefully it's gonna pick up going after that. so i think reasonably we could consider that china's income could stabilize in 2026 compared to 2025 and hopefully it's gonna pick up going after that Now, for Leasys, there's gonna be drivers of profitability going forward for Leasys and for mobility more generally. now for leasys there's gonna be drivers of profitability going forward for leasys and for mobility more generally A diversification of the distribution channel, a revamping of the services catalog, an improvement in the remarketing process with value sharing with car constructors, IT tools. We're developing across European remarketing strategy, building on synergies between different entities, and of course, the automobile market should pick up, and we are gonna have more value-driven pricing. Now, we're confident in the fact that Leasys was gonna recover profitability levels in 2026, and pick up even more in 2027. So a regular increase over the years of the medium-term plan. A diversification of the distribution channel, a revamping of the services catalog, an improvement in the remarketing process with value sharing with car constructors, IT tools. a diversification of the distribution channel a revamping of the services catalog an improvement in the remarketing process with value sharing with car constructors it tools We're developing across European remarketing strategy, building on synergies between different entities, and of course, the automobile market should pick up, and we are gonna have more value-driven pricing. we're developing across european remarketing strategy building on synergies between different entities and of course the automobile market should pick up and we are gonna have more value-driven pricing Now, we're confident in the fact that Leasys was gonna recover profitability levels in 2026, and pick up even more in 2027. now we're confident in the fact that leasys was gonna recover profitability levels in 2026 and pick up even more in 2027 So a regular increase over the years of the medium-term plan. so a regular increase over the years of the medium-term plan

Speaker 4: Great. Thank you very much. Great. great Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 9: The next question is from Pierre Chedeville at CIC. Please go ahead. The next question is from Pierre Chedeville at CIC. the next question is from pierre chedeville at cic Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 10: Yes, good morning. Thank you for the presentation. Two questions on my side. First question regarding the launch of the platform in Germany and more generally in Europe, on the savings side and online side. Will it cost some? Do we have to anticipate some extra charges regarding this launch and this project in 2026? Because you were not very precise on that side in the PMT. So, do we have, I don't know, IT investments, things like that? I'd like to come back also on the cost of risk in LCL. You mentioned some attention points regarding retail and distribution. Yes, good morning. yes good morning Thank you for the presentation. thank you for the presentation Two questions on my side. two questions on my side First question regarding the launch of the platform in Germany and more generally in Europe, on the savings side and online side. first question regarding the launch of the platform in germany and more generally in europe on the savings side and online side Will it cost some? will it cost some Do we have to anticipate some extra charges regarding this launch and this project in 2026? do we have to anticipate some extra charges regarding this launch and this project in 2026 Because you were not very precise on that side in the PMT. because you were not very precise on that side in the pmt So, do we have, I don't know, IT investments, things like that? so do we have i don't know it investments things like that I'd like to come back also on the cost of risk in LCL. i'd like to come back also on the cost of risk in lcl You mentioned some attention points regarding retail and distribution. you mentioned some attention points regarding retail and distribution Do you think that here we will have to have a forecast in the coming quarters in terms of cost of risk, similar to what we've seen in this Q4 for the next quarter? Or is this a peak, I would say, in Q4 and a normalization in the coming quarters? Thank you very much. Do you think that here we will have to have a forecast in the coming quarters in terms of cost of risk, similar to what we've seen in this Q4 for the next quarter? do you think that here we will have to have a forecast in the coming quarters in terms of cost of risk similar to what we've seen in this q4 for the next quarter Or is this a peak, I would say, in Q4 and a normalization in the coming quarters? or is this a peak i would say in q4 and a normalization in the coming quarters Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 3: Thank you, Pierre, for your questions. So regarding the development in Germany, of which we have the development of a digital savings platform, but which includes the development, for example, of everyday banking services. This development should be relatively low cost. I would say would be below EUR 50 million. Why? Because we already have a setup in Germany with Creditplus, 20 branches, and Creditplus is already doing EUR 15 billion in on-balance sheet savings. What we're going to do is we're going to put up a very agile and efficient platform, in particular, to internalize the margins in terms of on-balance sheet saving. And this is something that we should start in the first half of 2026. And then we're going to incrementally build upon that, adding day-to-day banking solutions with essential banking products. Thank you, Pierre, for your questions. thank you pierre for your questions So regarding the development in Germany, of which we have the development of a digital savings platform, but which includes the development, for example, of everyday banking services. so regarding the development in germany of which we have the development of a digital savings platform but which includes the development for example of everyday banking services This development should be relatively low cost. this development should be relatively low cost I would say would be below EUR 50 million. i would say would be below eur 50 million Why? why Because we already have a setup in Germany with Credit plus, 20 branches, and Creditp lus is already doing EUR 15 billion in on-balance sheet savings. because we already have a setup in germany with credit plus 20 branches and creditp lus is already doing eur 15 billion in on-balance sheet savings What we're going to do is we're going to put up a very agile and efficient platform, in particular, to internalize the margins in terms of on-balance sheet saving. what we're going to do is we're going to put up a very agile and efficient platform in particular to internalize the margins in terms of on-balance sheet saving And this is something that we should start in the first half of 2026. and this is something that we should start in the first half of 2026 And then we're going to incrementally build upon that, adding day-to-day banking solutions with essential banking products. and then we're going to incrementally build upon that adding day-to-day banking solutions with essential banking products This should come in the second half of 2026. Then in 2027, we should have off-balance sheet savings offers. What am I talking about? I'm talking about all of the synergies that we can do with the entities of the group, such as Amundi, for example, or Crédit Agricole Assurances. But these on-balance sheet savings themselves should be relatively competitive, because we're going to propose a number of on-balance sheet solutions for our customers in Germany, which should make this digital saving platform very interesting. But to answer precisely your question, Pierre, all of these developments should be at a very low cost, less than EUR 50 million, and hopefully we're gonna have revenues that are gonna contribute to our growth, thanks to these initiatives. That's the first point. This should come in the second half of 2026. this should come in the second half of 2026 Then in 2027, we should have off-balance sheet savings offers. then in 2027 we should have off-balance sheet savings offers What am I talking about? what am i talking about I'm talking about all of the synergies that we can do with the entities of the group, such as Amundi, for example, or Cr édit Agricole Assurances . i'm talking about all of the synergies that we can do with the entities of the group such as amundi for example or cr édit agricole assurances But these on-balance sheet savings themselves should be relatively competitive, because we're going to propose a number of on-balance sheet solutions for our customers in Germany, which should make this digital saving platform very interesting. but these on-balance sheet savings themselves should be relatively competitive because we're going to propose a number of on-balance sheet solutions for our customers in germany which should make this digital saving platform very interesting But to answer precisely your question, Pierre, all of these developments should be at a very low cost, less than EUR 50 million, and hopefully we're gonna have revenues that are gonna contribute to our growth, thanks to these initiatives. but to answer precisely your question pierre all of these developments should be at a very low cost less than eur 50 million and hopefully we're gonna have revenues that are gonna contribute to our growth thanks to these initiatives That's the first point. that's the first point The second point, you're talking about cost of risk in LCL. It's true that we have had an increase in incurred Stage 3 Cost of Risk this quarter in LCL. And so it's true that we're going to be very cautious regarding the different sectors that I talked to you about, retail development, automobile, textiles, distribution, et cetera, et cetera. It's very difficult to say what's coming, in fact. A lot of uncertainty. We have a lot of uncertainty in France, in Europe, regarding the corporate market. What I can tell you is that we have had low Cost of Risk in the recent quarters, but we have, more importantly, accumulated over the past year, very strong provisions. Provisions at the level of the group, provisions also at the level of CACEIS. The second point, you're talking about cost of risk in LCL. the second point you're talking about cost of risk in lcl It's true that we have had an increase in incurred Stage 3 Cost of Risk this quarter in LCL. it's true that we have had an increase in incurred stage 3 cost of risk this quarter in lcl And so it's true that we're going to be very cautious regarding the different sectors that I talked to you about, retail development, automobile, textiles, distribution, et cetera, et cetera. and so it's true that we're going to be very cautious regarding the different sectors that i talked to you about retail development automobile textiles distribution et cetera et cetera It's very difficult to say what's coming, in fact. it's very difficult to say what's coming in fact A lot of uncertainty. a lot of uncertainty We have a lot of uncertainty in France, in Europe, regarding the corporate market. we have a lot of uncertainty in france in europe regarding the corporate market What I can tell you is that we have had low Cost of Risk in the recent quarters, but we have, more importantly, accumulated over the past year, very strong provisions. what i can tell you is that we have had low cost of risk in the recent quarters but we have more importantly accumulated over the past year very strong provisions Provisions at the level of the group, provisions also at the level of CACEIS. provisions at the level of the group provisions also at the level of caceis The provisions at the level of CA include prudent provisions that represent about 1.5 years of cost of risk. At the level of the group, we're close to 3 years of cost of risk. So we have very strong provisioning, and so if the Stage 3 cost of risk continues to increase over the next quarters, we really have these buffers in terms of prudent provisioning, that allows us to limit the cost of risk. I'm still very comfortable regarding the hypothesis that we have in our medium-term plan, which is a cost of risk at 40 basis points for CA during the medium-term plan. The provisions at the level of CA include prudent provisions that represent about 1.5 years of cost of risk. the provisions at the level of ca include prudent provisions that represent about 1.5 years of cost of risk At the level of the group, we're close to 3 years of cost of risk. at the level of the group we're close to 3 years of cost of risk So we have very strong provisioning, and so if the Stage 3 cost of risk continues to increase over the next quarters, we really have these buffers in terms of prudent provisioning, that allows us to limit the cost of risk. so we have very strong provisioning and so if the stage 3 cost of risk continues to increase over the next quarters we really have these buffers in terms of prudent provisioning that allows us to limit the cost of risk I'm still very comfortable regarding the hypothesis that we have in our medium-term plan, which is a cost of risk at 40 basis points for CA during the medium-term plan. i'm still very comfortable regarding the hypothesis that we have in our medium-term plan which is a cost of risk at 40 basis points for ca during the medium-term plan

Speaker 10: Okay, thank you. Okay, thank you. okay thank you

Speaker 9: The next question is from Matthew Clark, Mediobanca. Please go ahead. The next question is from Matthew Clark, Mediobanca. the next question is from matthew clark mediobanca Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 7: Hi. So a couple of questions, firstly, on Leasys, and then on slide 41. So with Leasys, can we expect it to break even already next quarter, or is it more a full year break even kind of project? Is that the right way to think about it? And then the second question is just on the calculation of your ROI on slide 41. Is the 13% as simple as your net profit divided by the sum of all the considerations for those entities, or is it more like a return on invested capital calculation or some other aspects of it? Any guidance there would be appreciated. Thank you. Hi. hi So a couple of questions, firstly, on Leasys, and then on slide 41. so a couple of questions firstly on leasys and then on slide 41 So with Leasys, can we expect it to break even already next quarter, or is it more a full year break even kind of project? so with leasys can we expect it to break even already next quarter or is it more a full year break even kind of project Is that the right way to think about it? is that the right way to think about it And then the second question is just on the calculation of your ROI on slide 41. and then the second question is just on the calculation of your roi on slide 41 Is the 13% as simple as your net profit divided by the sum of all the considerations for those entities, or is it more like a return on invested capital calculation or some other aspects of it? is the 13% as simple as your net profit divided by the sum of all the considerations for those entities or is it more like a return on invested capital calculation or some other aspects of it Any guidance there would be appreciated. any guidance there would be appreciated Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: All right. Thank you, Matt. Regarding Leasys, I'm not going to give you any quarterly guidance. What I'm going to tell you is that hopefully we're going to have a positive profitability for leases in 2026, picking up in 2027. But uncertainty is relatively high on the automobile market, so it would not be reasonable for me to give you any quarterly guidance regarding leases. But we are comfortable on the fact that we're confident on the fact that we're going to resume profitability, double-digit prof, contribution to net income in 2026. All right. all right Thank you, Matt. thank you matt Regarding Leasys, I'm not going to give you any quarterly guidance. regarding leasys i'm not going to give you any quarterly guidance What I'm going to tell you is that hopefully we're going to have a positive profitability for leases in 2026, picking up in 2027. what i'm going to tell you is that hopefully we're going to have a positive profitability for leases in 2026 picking up in 2027 But uncertainty is relatively high on the automobile market, so it would not be reasonable for me to give you any quarterly guidance regarding leases. but uncertainty is relatively high on the automobile market so it would not be reasonable for me to give you any quarterly guidance regarding leases But we are comfortable on the fact that we're confident on the fact that we're going to resume profitability, double-digit prof, contribution to net income in 2026. but we are comfortable on the fact that we're confident on the fact that we're going to resume profitability double-digit prof contribution to net income in 2026 Now, for the M&A operations, in fact, it depends, because some of the M&A operations are difficult to calculate—the ROI is difficult to calculate because the objective of these operations usually is to really have them really feed into the business, and it's oftentimes very difficult to see what is the contribution of this integrated activity to cost or revenue synergies. So when we look at the ROI, we look at the revenue synergies, we look at the cost synergies, we compare that to the price of acquisition, and then going forward, we try to estimate the contribution of the integrated activity to the net income. But it's going to be an estimation, naturally, because it's difficult because we don't have separate entities. Now, for the M&A operations, in fact, it depends, because some of the M&A operations are difficult to calculate—the ROI is difficult to calculate because the objective of these operations usually is to really have them really feed into the business, and it's oftentimes very difficult to see what is the contribution of this integrated activity to cost or revenue synergies. now for the m&a operations in fact it depends because some of the m&a operations are difficult to calculate—the roi is difficult to calculate because the objective of these operations usually is to really have them really feed into the business and it's oftentimes very difficult to see what is the contribution of this integrated activity to cost or revenue synergies So when we look at the ROI, we look at the revenue synergies, we look at the cost synergies, we compare that to the price of acquisition, and then going forward, we try to estimate the contribution of the integrated activity to the net income. so when we look at the roi we look at the revenue synergies we look at the cost synergies we compare that to the price of acquisition and then going forward we try to estimate the contribution of the integrated activity to the net income But it's going to be an estimation, naturally, because it's difficult because we don't have separate entities. but it's going to be an estimation naturally because it's difficult because we don't have separate entities One of the cost synergies that, one of the drivers of the cost synergies is the migration, IT migration and the merging of legal entities. So this makes things difficult, but what we do look at, to simplify, is we do look at additional net income in year three compared to the capital that we invested. One of the cost synergies that, one of the drivers of the cost synergies is the migration, IT migration and the merging of legal entities. one of the cost synergies that one of the drivers of the cost synergies is the migration it migration and the merging of legal entities So this makes things difficult, but what we do look at, to simplify, is we do look at additional net income in year three compared to the capital that we invested. so this makes things difficult but what we do look at to simplify is we do look at additional net income in year three compared to the capital that we invested

Speaker 7: So just to clarify, is it compared to the consideration that you, when you say capital that you invested, is that the consideration you pay to the seller, or is that the CET1- So just to clarify, is it compared to the consideration that you, w hen you say capital that you invested, is that the consideration you pay to the seller, or is that the CET1- so just to clarify is it compared to the consideration that you, w hen you say capital that you invested is that the consideration you pay to the seller or is that the cet1-

Speaker 3: It's the cash. It's the cash. it's the cash

Speaker 7: The capital that's- The capital that's- the capital that's-

Speaker 3: It's- It's- it's-

Speaker 7: Okay. Okay. okay

Speaker 3: cash that we paid. It's not a CET1. We do have a return on CET1, but that is more comparable, in fact, to the ROTE. When I'm telling you that we have an ROI, and we want to have something that is accretive in terms of ROTE, to have something that's accretive in terms of ROTE, we look at a certain number of elements, the RONE, but oftentimes the ROCET1, which looks at the capital consideration that you're talking about. When we look at ROI, we're comparing it to the cash invested. cash that we paid. cash that we paid It's not a CET1. it's not a cet1 We do have a return on CET1, but that is more comparable, in fact, to the ROTE. we do have a return on cet1 but that is more comparable in fact to the rote When I'm telling you that we have an ROI, and we want to have something that is accretive in terms of ROTE, to have something that's accretive in terms of ROTE, we look at a certain number of elements, the RONE, but oftentimes the ROCET1, which looks at the capital consideration that you're talking about. when i'm telling you that we have an roi and we want to have something that is accretive in terms of rote to have something that's accretive in terms of rote we look at a certain number of elements the rone but oftentimes the rocet1 which looks at the capital consideration that you're talking about When we look at ROI, we're comparing it to the cash invested. when we look at roi we're comparing it to the cash invested

Speaker 7: Okay, thank you. Okay, thank you. okay thank you

Speaker 9: The next question is from Alberto Artoni, Intesa Sanpaolo. Please go ahead. The next question is from Alberto Artoni, Intesa Sanpaolo. the next question is from alberto artoni intesa sanpaolo Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 1: Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Now you have two. The first one is just a quick follow-up on the cost of risk in LCL. And I just wanted to better understand if the increase of cost of risk was linked to limited number of big tickets, or was more a broad-based issue with certain sectors that you called out in the slide. The second one is on the tax. What do you expect for 2026 taxation at caisse level? Thank you. Good morning. good morning Thank you for taking my questions. thank you for taking my questions Now you have two. now you have two The first one is just a quick follow-up on the cost of risk in LCL. the first one is just a quick follow-up on the cost of risk in lcl And I just wanted to better understand if the increase of cost of risk was linked to limited number of big tickets, or was more a broad-based issue with certain sectors that you called out in the slide. and i just wanted to better understand if the increase of cost of risk was linked to limited number of big tickets or was more a broad-based issue with certain sectors that you called out in the slide The second one is on the tax. the second one is on the tax What do you expect for 2026 taxation at caisse level? what do you expect for 2026 taxation at caisse level Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: All right. Thank you very much, Alberto, for your questions. Regarding LCL, it's an increase in a certain number of individual risks on corporates, but I would not say that it's one or two large deals. There are individual risks, but it's a little bit more diversified regarding the SMEs. So it's an increase in the SME risk in the different sectors that I was talking to you about. It's not one or two specific cases. Now, regarding the corporate tax. Going forward, we do have, as you saw, the publication of the tax decisions by the government, which causes us to forecast a relatively similar corporate tax going forward. All right. all right Thank you very much, Alberto, for your questions. thank you very much alberto for your questions Regarding LCL, it's an increase in a certain number of individual risks on corporates, but I would not say that it's one or two large deals. regarding lcl it's an increase in a certain number of individual risks on corporates but i would not say that it's one or two large deals There are individual risks, but it's a little bit more diversified regarding the SMEs. there are individual risks but it's a little bit more diversified regarding the smes So it's an increase in the SME risk in the different sectors that I was talking to you about. so it's an increase in the sme risk in the different sectors that i was talking to you about It's not one or two specific cases. it's not one or two specific cases Now, regarding the corporate tax. now regarding the corporate tax Going forward, we do have, as you saw, the publication of the tax decisions by the government, which causes us to forecast a relatively similar corporate tax going forward. going forward we do have as you saw the publication of the tax decisions by the government which causes us to forecast a relatively similar corporate tax going forward It's too early as of today to draw conclusions, but we should have a corporate tax that should be based on an average of the fiscal revenues of past year and current year. So that's why we can't estimate it as of today. The corporate tax for 2025 was based upon the average of the fiscal revenues of 2024 and 2025. So we have to calculate, we're going to have to calculate the corporate tax going forward based upon the fiscal revenues of 2025 and 2026. Now, it's more or less the same type of corporate tax, except that the threshold in terms of turnover, it's a little bit higher. It's too early as of today to draw conclusions, but we should have a corporate tax that should be based on an average of the fiscal revenues of past year and current year. it's too early as of today to draw conclusions but we should have a corporate tax that should be based on an average of the fiscal revenues of past year and current year So that's why we can't estimate it as of today. so that's why we can't estimate it as of today The corporate tax for 2025 was based upon the average of the fiscal revenues of 2024 and 2025. the corporate tax for 2025 was based upon the average of the fiscal revenues of 2024 and 2025 So we have to calculate, we're going to have to calculate the corporate tax going forward based upon the fiscal revenues of 2025 and 2026. so we have to calculate we're going to have to calculate the corporate tax going forward based upon the fiscal revenues of 2025 and 2026 Now, it's more or less the same type of corporate tax, except that the threshold in terms of turnover, it's a little bit higher. now it's more or less the same type of corporate tax except that the threshold in terms of turnover it's a little bit higher It goes from EUR 1 billion to EUR 1.5 billion, which could have an impact at the level of the group. But all in all, we will have a corporate tax. The amount will be in the same ballpark as what we had this year. And it's true that this is something that is taking into account in our medium-term plan; we know that we have to take into account a certain number of uncertainties, and this is one of the uncertainties that we have to take into account. Hopefully, it's not going to continue until 2028, i.e., the end of our medium-term plan. It goes from EUR 1 billion to EUR 1.5 billion, which could have an impact at the level of the group. it goes from eur 1 billion to eur 1.5 billion which could have an impact at the level of the group But all in all, we will have a corporate tax. but all in all we will have a corporate tax The amount will be in the same ballpark as what we had this year. the amount will be in the same ballpark as what we had this year And it's true that this is something that is taking into account in our medium-term plan; we know that we have to take into account a certain number of uncertainties, and this is one of the uncertainties that we have to take into account. and it's true that this is something that is taking into account in our medium-term plan we know that we have to take into account a certain number of uncertainties and this is one of the uncertainties that we have to take into account Hopefully, it's not going to continue until 2028, i.e., the end of our medium-term plan. hopefully it's not going to continue until 2028 i.e the end of our medium-term plan

Speaker 1: Very clear. Thank you very much. Very clear. very clear Thank you very much. thank you very much

Speaker 9: The next question is from Sharath Kumar, Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. The next question is from Sharath Kumar, Deutsche Bank. the next question is from sharath kumar deutsche bank Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 11: Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I had two. Firstly, on specialized financial services, I know that this is one area where consensus seems to be consistently underestimating your strength. Anything that you can say as to why consensus seems slower, and what do you think it is missing? A follow-up on leases, can you clarify what drove the higher used car sale losses, and whether there's more pain to come? Lastly, on corporate center, if you can give guidance now that we will not have the Banco BPM accounting impact, do you think the Q4 underlying level of, say, call it EUR 80 million negative net income, is a reasonable run rate to extrapolate going forward? Thank you. Good morning. good morning Thank you for taking my questions. thank you for taking my questions I had two. i had two Firstly, on specialized financial services, I know that this is one area where consensus seems to be consistently underestimating your strength. firstly on specialized financial services i know that this is one area where consensus seems to be consistently underestimating your strength Anything that you can say as to why consensus seems slower, and what do you think it is missing? anything that you can say as to why consensus seems slower and what do you think it is missing A follow-up on leases, can you clarify what drove the higher used car sale losses, and whether there's more pain to come? a follow-up on leases can you clarify what drove the higher used car sale losses and whether there's more pain to come Lastly, on corporate center, if you can give guidance now that we will not have the Banco BPM accounting impact, do you think the Q4 underlying level of, say, call it EUR 80 million negative net income, is a reasonable run rate to extrapolate going forward? lastly on corporate center if you can give guidance now that we will not have the banco bpm accounting impact do you think the q4 underlying level of say call it eur 80 million negative net income is a reasonable run rate to extrapolate going forward Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Sharath. So for SFS, the thing is that it's difficult to estimate the impact on mobility in the context that we have currently, which is a context of an automobile market that is under difficulty. So this is something, in fact, that has had an impact on most of the car constructors. But it's true that the car constructors with which we have a relationship, Crédit Agricole Auto Bank, specifically, with Tesla, GAC-Sofinco with GAC, and Leasys with Stellantis. We have had difficulties on these three car constructors, each for specific reasons that hopefully are going, are behind us, and hopefully activity should pick up. That's the first point. Okay, thank you, Sharath. okay thank you sharath So for SFS, the thing is that it's difficult to estimate the impact on mobility in the context that we have currently, which is a context of an automobile market that is under difficulty. so for sfs the thing is that it's difficult to estimate the impact on mobility in the context that we have currently which is a context of an automobile market that is under difficulty So this is something, in fact, that has had an impact on most of the car constructors. so this is something in fact that has had an impact on most of the car constructors But it's true that the car constructors with which we have a relationship, Crédit Agricole Auto Bank, specifically, with Tesla, GAC-Sofinco with GAC, and Leasys with Stellantis. but it's true that the car constructors with which we have a relationship crédit agricole auto bank specifically with tesla gac-sofinco with gac and leasys with stellantis We have had difficulties on these three car constructors, each for specific reasons that hopefully are going, are behind us, and hopefully activity should pick up. we have had difficulties on these three car constructors each for specific reasons that hopefully are going are behind us and hopefully activity should pick up That's the first point. that's the first point But if I extrapolate a little bit to used car, there is a market where the arrival of electric vehicles is making the residual value of used cars difficult also to estimate. That's also why we adopted a very prudent approach by applying a conservative discount to our used car residual values for leases. This is really to put us on a solid base for the future regarding this dimension. And because we have a certain number of growth drivers in CA PFM, not only mobility, we also have personal finance. And in terms of personal finance, we're optimistic as to the pickup. We're going to have tailwinds linked to the margins, and we're going to have also a pickup in the insurance and services. So these are elements that should help us going forward. But if I extrapolate a little bit to used car, there is a market where the arrival of electric vehicles is making the residual value of used cars difficult also to estimate. but if i extrapolate a little bit to used car there is a market where the arrival of electric vehicles is making the residual value of used cars difficult also to estimate That's also why we adopted a very prudent approach by applying a conservative discount to our used car residual values for leases. that's also why we adopted a very prudent approach by applying a conservative discount to our used car residual values for leases This is really to put us on a solid base for the future regarding this dimension. this is really to put us on a solid base for the future regarding this dimension And because we have a certain number of growth drivers in CA PFM, not only mobility, we also have personal finance. and because we have a certain number of growth drivers in ca pfm not only mobility we also have personal finance And in terms of personal finance, we're optimistic as to the pickup. and in terms of personal finance we're optimistic as to the pickup We're going to have tailwinds linked to the margins, and we're going to have also a pickup in the insurance and services. we're going to have tailwinds linked to the margins and we're going to have also a pickup in the insurance and services So these are elements that should help us going forward. so these are elements that should help us going forward For corporate center, what we said in the medium-term plan was that we could target around EUR 900-400 million in contribution, I think. I'm just verifying that with Cécile right now. No, she's, she's nodding, she's, she's shaking her head. So maybe that's not that. I'm gonna have to come back to you as to the guidance we have in the medium-term plan in terms of the corporate center. For corporate center, what we said in the medium-term plan was that we could target around EUR 900-400 million in contribution, I think. for corporate center what we said in the medium-term plan was that we could target around eur 900-400 million in contribution i think I'm just verifying that with Cécile right now. i'm just verifying that with cécile right now No, she's, she's nodding, she's, she's shaking her head. no she's she's nodding she's she's shaking her head So maybe that's not that. so maybe that's not that I'm gonna have to come back to you as to the guidance we have in the medium-term plan in terms of the corporate center. i'm gonna have to come back to you as to the guidance we have in the medium-term plan in terms of the corporate center

Speaker 11: Thank you. Thank you. thank you

Speaker 9: Next question is from Benoît Valleaux, ODDO BHF. Please go ahead. Next question is from Benoît Valleaux, ODDO BHF. next question is from benoît valleaux oddo bhf Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 2: Yes, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. A few questions on insurance, if I may, which are about the very strong figures. The first question is related to CSM, which I enjoy the very strong growth of 9.1%, about 12 months. So it's partly due, of course, to the activity, but also you mentioned some positive market effect. Can you just please tell us what has been the market effect or what has been the new business CSM, just to understand what may be the quality of this, of this strong increase? The second question is on P&C. Your combined ratio has been broadly stable at 94.6% for the full year. So what do you expect in terms of price increase this year? And what do you expect in terms of combined ratio this year and over the plan? Yes, good morning. yes good morning Thank you for taking my question. thank you for taking my question A few questions on insurance, if I may, which are about the very strong figures. a few questions on insurance if i may which are about the very strong figures The first question is related to CSM, which I enjoy the very strong growth of 9.1%, about 12 months. the first question is related to csm which i enjoy the very strong growth of 9.1% about 12 months So it's partly due, of course, to the activity, but also you mentioned some positive market effect. so it's partly due of course to the activity but also you mentioned some positive market effect Can you just please tell us what has been the market effect or what has been the new business CSM, just to understand what may be the quality of this, of this strong increase? can you just please tell us what has been the market effect or what has been the new business csm just to understand what may be the quality of this of this strong increase The second question is on P&C. the second question is on p&c Your combined ratio has been broadly stable at 94.6% for the full year. your combined ratio has been broadly stable at 94.6% for the full year So what do you expect in terms of price increase this year? so what do you expect in terms of price increase this year And what do you expect in terms of combined ratio this year and over the plan? and what do you expect in terms of combined ratio this year and over the plan I have in mind that maybe you expect a broadly stable combined ratio as a plan, but I don't know if you can confirm or elaborate a little bit on that. I have in mind that maybe you expect a broadly stable combined ratio as a plan, but I don't know if you can confirm or elaborate a little bit on that. i have in mind that maybe you expect a broadly stable combined ratio as a plan but i don't know if you can confirm or elaborate a little bit on that

Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. yeah

Speaker 2: Maybe the third question is on solvency. Solvency is down a little bit compared to your end 2024, but it's still very strong, so it's fine. My question is, first, I mean, do you have a view on the dividend to be paid by Crédit Agricole Assurances to CASA in Q2 and the impact on CET1 ratio, or is it maybe too early for this? And the second question is, do you have a view on what could be or what will be the impact of the Solvency II review on the solvency margin? Thank you. Maybe the third question is on solvency. maybe the third question is on solvency Solvency is down a little bit compared to your end 2024, but it's still very strong, so it's fine. solvency is down a little bit compared to your end 2024 but it's still very strong so it's fine My question is, first, I mean, do you have a view on the dividend to be paid by Crédit Agricole Assurances to CASA in Q2 and the impact on CET1 ratio, or is it maybe too early for this? my question is first i mean do you have a view on the dividend to be paid by crédit agricole assurances to casa in q2 and the impact on cet1 ratio or is it maybe too early for this And the second question is, do you have a view on what could be or what will be the impact of the Solvency II review on the solvency margin? and the second question is do you have a view on what could be or what will be the impact of the solvency ii review on the solvency margin Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: All right. Thank you, Benoît. Now, regarding the CSM, so we have a certain number of elements, and in particular, we have the Variable Fee Approach dimension, which is contributing to the allocation of the CSM. So we have a very slight decrease in the allocation factor, but nevertheless, we have a CSM that is that we have where which we have new business contribution that is higher than the CSM allocation. The positive market effects are effects that you can have, in particular in the GSA, in terms of for the life insurance. Now, regarding P&C, we have a combined ratio indeed that is 94.6% at the end of the year. Going forward, there's gonna be pluses and minuses. All right. all right Thank you, Benoît. thank you benoît Now, regarding the CSM, so we have a certain number of elements, and in particular, we have the Variable Fee A pproach dimension, which is contributing to the allocation of the CSM. now regarding the csm so we have a certain number of elements and in particular we have the variable fee a pproach dimension which is contributing to the allocation of the csm So we have a very slight decrease in the allocation factor, but nevertheless, we have a CSM that is that we have where which we have new business contribution that is higher than the CSM allocation. so we have a very slight decrease in the allocation factor but nevertheless we have a csm that is that we have where which we have new business contribution that is higher than the csm allocation The positive market effects are effects that you can have, in particular in the GSA, in terms of for the life insurance. the positive market effects are effects that you can have in particular in the gsa in terms of for the life insurance Now, regarding P&C, we have a combined ratio indeed that is 94.6% at the end of the year. now regarding p&c we have a combined ratio indeed that is 94.6% at the end of the year Going forward, there's gonna be pluses and minuses. going forward there's gonna be pluses and minuses There's going to be an impact on claims, for example, of climate change, for example. But on the other hand, the premiums in this context should adapt. The idea for us is to be able to develop P&Cs in France, internationally, to develop the equipment rate, to diversify, also to principalize our customers in the retail banking, in order to increase the extent of P&C solutions that they can have. So these are areas for growth in terms of P&C going forward. But it's true that there will be this mix between claims and premiums going forward, because this is linked to the evolution of the markets. And in terms of solvency, it's really too early to give you any elements like that. Of course, the solvency ratio is something that we usually give you at an annual level. There's going to be an impact on claims, for example, of climate change, for example. there's going to be an impact on claims for example of climate change for example But on the other hand, the premiums in this context should adapt. but on the other hand the premiums in this context should adapt The idea for us is to be able to develop P&Cs in France, internationally, to develop the equipment rate, to diversify, also to principalize our customers in the retail banking, in order to increase the extent of P&C solutions that they can have. the idea for us is to be able to develop p&cs in france internationally to develop the equipment rate to diversify also to principalize our customers in the retail banking in order to increase the extent of p&c solutions that they can have So these are areas for growth in terms of P&C going forward. so these are areas for growth in terms of p&c going forward But it's true that there will be this mix between claims and premiums going forward, because this is linked to the evolution of the markets. but it's true that there will be this mix between claims and premiums going forward because this is linked to the evolution of the markets And in terms of solvency, it's really too early to give you any elements like that. and in terms of solvency it's really too early to give you any elements like that Of course, the solvency ratio is something that we usually give you at an annual level. of course the solvency ratio is something that we usually give you at an annual level For Crédit Agricole Assurances, which is very high. We had a slight decrease this year, six percentage points year-over-year in the context of increased rates, but strong growth in activity, but it remains extremely high, and very comfortable. For Crédit Agricole Assurances, which is very high. for crédit agricole assurances which is very high We had a slight decrease this year, six percentage points year-over-year in the context of increased rates, but strong growth in activity, but it remains extremely high, and very comfortable. we had a slight decrease this year six percentage points year-over-year in the context of increased rates but strong growth in activity but it remains extremely high and very comfortable

Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Maybe just, regarding the CSM, do you have the figures regarding the contribution from the new business to the CSM in 2025? Okay, thank you. okay thank you Maybe just, regarding the CSM, do you have the figures regarding the contribution from the new business to the CSM in 2025? maybe just regarding the csm do you have the figures regarding the contribution from the new business to the csm in 2025

Speaker 3: We have the fact that the allocation factor is 7.5%, and the new business contribution is higher than the CSM allocation. We have the fact that the allocation factor is 7.5%, and the new business contribution is higher than the CSM allocation. we have the fact that the allocation factor is 7.5% and the new business contribution is higher than the csm allocation

Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much. Okay, thank you very much. okay thank you very much

Speaker 9: The next question is from Matt Padmash, Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. The next question is from Matt Padmash, Morgan Stanley. the next question is from matt padmash morgan stanley Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 6: Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I just wanted to ask, how is the current macro situation in France impacting CA? And can you talk a little bit more about your outlook on French retail going forward, given the recent positive developments on the deposit mix and pricing, please? Good morning. good morning Thank you for taking my question. thank you for taking my question I just wanted to ask, how is the current macro situation in France impacting CA? i just wanted to ask how is the current macro situation in france impacting ca And can you talk a little bit more about your outlook on French retail going forward, given the recent positive developments on the deposit mix and pricing, please? and can you talk a little bit more about your outlook on french retail going forward given the recent positive developments on the deposit mix and pricing please

Speaker 3: All right. Thank you. So in fact, the uncertainty linked to the fiscal budget government situation has decreased a little bit, and we have seen that in the asset swaps from the OATs, which has decreased in these past weeks. In fact, the asset swap for OATs has gone below that of Italy. So we have had a market where conditions have been relatively good. Now, there is still uncertainty going forward, more generally, but uncertainty linked to European growth, to the aging of population, to competitiveness issues. There is an uncertainty linked to the level of public debt, for example, in Europe, and also, of course, to the geopolitical risk, which will have an impact on the supply chains, global supply chains. This all creates uncertainty, more generally. Now, two points. All right. all right Thank you. thank you So in fact, the uncertainty linked to the fiscal budget government situation has decreased a little bit, and we have seen that in the asset swaps from the OATs, which has decreased in these past weeks. so in fact the uncertainty linked to the fiscal budget government situation has decreased a little bit and we have seen that in the asset swaps from the oats which has decreased in these past weeks In fact, the asset swap for OATs has gone below that of Italy. in fact the asset swap for oats has gone below that of italy So we have had a market where conditions have been relatively good. so we have had a market where conditions have been relatively good Now, there is still uncertainty going forward, more generally, but uncertainty linked to European growth, to the aging of population, to competitiveness issues. now there is still uncertainty going forward more generally but uncertainty linked to european growth to the aging of population to competitiveness issues There is an uncertainty linked to the level of public debt, for example, in Europe, and also, of course, to the geopolitical risk, which will have an impact on the supply chains, global supply chains. there is an uncertainty linked to the level of public debt for example in europe and also of course to the geopolitical risk which will have an impact on the supply chains global supply chains This all creates uncertainty, more generally. this all creates uncertainty more generally Now, two points. now two points First of all, on our capacity to raise liquidity to meet our funding plans, CA has a very strong position. There is a slight impact of the fact that we are, we have an impact due to the government, French government debt. But nevertheless, the spreads are very low for us, and in fact, our funding plan for last year, we went beyond our funding plan, which was EUR 20 billion. We went to EUR 23.1 billion because the conditions were very strong. And the funding plan that we have this. Very favorable, sorry. First of all, on our capacity to raise liquidity to meet our funding plans, CA has a very strong position. first of all on our capacity to raise liquidity to meet our funding plans ca has a very strong position There is a slight impact of the fact that we are, we have an impact due to the government, French government debt. there is a slight impact of the fact that we are we have an impact due to the government french government debt But nevertheless, the spreads are very low for us, and in fact, our funding plan for last year, we went beyond our funding plan, which was EUR 20 billion. but nevertheless the spreads are very low for us and in fact our funding plan for last year we went beyond our funding plan which was eur 20 billion We went to EUR 23.1 billion because the conditions were very strong. we went to eur 23.1 billion because the conditions were very strong And the funding plan that we have this. and the funding plan that we have this Very favorable, sorry. very favorable sorry The funding plan that we have this year is about EUR 18.18 billion, and we have already achieved about 31% of this planned funding plan as of end of January, which is very good, and which shows that there's abundant liquidity for the European banks and for Crédit Agricole, which has a very strong capital and liquidity position, and our conditions, our funding conditions, are very good. So that's the first point. The second point is, so there's no issue for us, Crédit Agricole Group, in terms of capacity to raise funding. The second point is, will macroeconomic uncertainty have an impact on activity in the countries where we operate and our activity? The funding plan that we have this year is about EUR 18.18 billion, and we have already achieved about 31% of this planned funding plan as of end of January, which is very good, and which shows that there's abundant liquidity for the European banks and for Crédit Agricole, which has a very strong capital and liquidity position, and our conditions, our funding conditions, are very good. the funding plan that we have this year is about eur 18.18 billion and we have already achieved about 31% of this planned funding plan as of end of january which is very good and which shows that there's abundant liquidity for the european banks and for crédit agricole which has a very strong capital and liquidity position and our conditions our funding conditions are very good So that's the first point. so that's the first point The second point is, so there's no issue for us, Crédit Agricole Group, in terms of capacity to raise funding. the second point is so there's no issue for us crédit agricole group in terms of capacity to raise funding The second point is, will macroeconomic uncertainty have an impact on activity in the countries where we operate and our activity? the second point is will macroeconomic uncertainty have an impact on activity in the countries where we operate and our activity Now, you saw in our medium-term plan that we want to increase the share of revenues outside of France from about 55% to about 60%. So this is development that will allow us to diversify also our business mix, first point. And then the second point is that we consider that we're very well positioned to support our customers in the developments that will be necessary, i.e., for example, I was talking about aging population. We're very well positioned to support the savings, the development of savings in Europe, thanks to insurance, thanks to asset management, thanks to the deal that we just signed with ICG and private debt, et cetera, et cetera. Now, you saw in our medium-term plan that we want to increase the share of revenues outside of France from about 55% to about 60%. now you saw in our medium-term plan that we want to increase the share of revenues outside of france from about 55% to about 60% So this is development that will allow us to diversify also our business mix, first point. so this is development that will allow us to diversify also our business mix first point And then the second point is that we consider that we're very well positioned to support our customers in the developments that will be necessary, i.e., for example, I was talking about aging population. and then the second point is that we consider that we're very well positioned to support our customers in the developments that will be necessary i.e for example i was talking about aging population We're very well positioned to support the savings, the development of savings in Europe, thanks to insurance, thanks to asset management, thanks to the deal that we just signed with ICG and private debt, et cetera, et cetera. we're very well positioned to support the savings the development of savings in europe thanks to insurance thanks to asset management thanks to the deal that we just signed with icg and private debt et cetera et cetera That's the first point on savings, and in our medium-term plan, we're also committing to support the midcaps in Europe in the way that they contribute to competitiveness of Europe in a certain number of sectors like defense or health or agri or technology. So we're well positioned to navigate in this uncertain environment. That's the first point on savings, and in our medium-term plan, we're also committing to support the midcaps in Europe in the way that they contribute to competitiveness of Europe in a certain number of sectors like defense or health or agri or technology. that's the first point on savings and in our medium-term plan we're also committing to support the midcaps in europe in the way that they contribute to competitiveness of europe in a certain number of sectors like defense or health or agri or technology So we're well positioned to navigate in this uncertain environment. so we're well positioned to navigate in this uncertain environment

Speaker 9: The next question is from Siri Tutungi, BNP Paribas. Please go ahead. The next question is from Siri Tutungi, BNP Paribas. the next question is from siri tutungi bnp paribas Please go ahead. please go ahead

Speaker 12: Hi, everyone, and thank you for taking the questions. So I've got two. The first one will be on Germany. I know you're launching your platform this year, so I'm just wondering what's your strategy to capture market share in a market that's becoming more and more competitive with new entrants? And the second one would be on French retail revenues, so it was really strong this quarter, and the drivers of NII, especially are pretty structural. So I'm just wondering what's preventing us to maybe extrapolate this growth that's quite above the strategic plan revenue target. Thank you. Hi, everyone, and thank you for taking the questions. hi everyone and thank you for taking the questions So I've got two. so i've got two The first one will be on Germany. the first one will be on germany I know you're launching your platform this year, so I'm just wondering what's your strategy to capture market share in a market that's becoming more and more competitive with new entrants? i know you're launching your platform this year so i'm just wondering what's your strategy to capture market share in a market that's becoming more and more competitive with new entrants And the second one would be on French retail revenues, so it was really strong this quarter, and the drivers of NII, especially are pretty structural. and the second one would be on french retail revenues so it was really strong this quarter and the drivers of nii especially are pretty structural So I'm just wondering what's preventing us to maybe extrapolate this growth that's quite above the strategic plan revenue target. so i'm just wondering what's preventing us to maybe extrapolate this growth that's quite above the strategic plan revenue target Thank you. thank you

Speaker 3: All right. Thank you for your question. How we want to gain market share? So we're being very reasonable in the targets that we have. We want to go from 1 million customers to 2 million customers in Germany. We have savings outstandings that are EUR 15 billion. We want to reach about EUR 30 billion in Germany, and if we expand that to other countries, we're going to reach the EUR 40 billion that we talked about in our medium-term plan. So it's a relatively reasonable target because we're starting on this basis of 1 million customers and EUR 15 billion in outstandings. And as I was saying just before, we think that we're going to have a competitive edge linked to the number of- All right. all right Thank you for your question. thank you for your question How we want to gain market share? how we want to gain market share So we're being very reasonable in the targets that we have. so we're being very reasonable in the targets that we have We want to go from 1 million customers to 2 million customers in Germany. we want to go from 1 million customers to 2 million customers in germany We have savings outstandings that are EUR 15 billion. we have savings outstandings that are eur 15 billion We want to reach about EUR 30 billion in Germany, and if we expand that to other countries, we're going to reach the EUR 40 billion that we talked about in our medium-term plan. we want to reach about eur 30 billion in germany and if we expand that to other countries we're going to reach the eur 40 billion that we talked about in our medium-term plan So it's a relatively reasonable target because we're starting on this basis of 1 million customers and EUR 15 billion in outstandings. so it's a relatively reasonable target because we're starting on this basis of 1 million customers and eur 15 billion in outstandings And as I was saying just before, we think that we're going to have a competitive edge linked to the number of- and as i was saying just before we think that we're going to have a competitive edge linked to the number of- solutions we can provide in terms of on-balance sheet savings in this digital platform, time deposits, et cetera. So we have a certain number of solutions that should be more numerous than those of other competitors. But recall that Germany is a market where there's a very strong depth in terms of savings. We want to target affluent customers, and so we're relatively optimistic regarding this. First point. The second point, indeed, the net interest income revenue increased strongly in France this quarter, and in particular, in the regional banks, and in the medium-term plan, we have increased an increase- we have in, in included, sorry, an increase in net interest income. solutions we can provide in terms of on-balance sheet savings in this digital platform, time deposits, et cetera. solutions we can provide in terms of on-balance sheet savings in this digital platform time deposits et cetera So we have a certain number of solutions that should be more numerous than those of other competitors. so we have a certain number of solutions that should be more numerous than those of other competitors But recall that Germany is a market where there's a very strong depth in terms of savings. but recall that germany is a market where there's a very strong depth in terms of savings We want to target affluent customers, and so we're relatively optimistic regarding this. we want to target affluent customers and so we're relatively optimistic regarding this First point. first point The second point, indeed, the net interest income revenue increased strongly in France this quarter, and in particular, in the regional banks, and in the medium-term plan, we have increased an increase- we have in, in included, sorry, an increase in net interest income. the second point indeed the net interest income revenue increased strongly in france this quarter and in particular in the regional banks and in the medium-term plan we have increased an increase- we have in in included sorry an increase in net interest income The 11%, net interest income that we have seen in French retail this quarter is probably a little bit strong, but for going forward, but in 2026, I think we can say that we will have a high single-digit increase in French retail in 2026. And then maybe coming back, because Cécile and the team were just checking to the corporate center, the minus EUR 400 million I was talking about is indeed a good order of magnitude for a guidance for the net income for the corporate center by 2028. Thank you. The 11%, net interest income that we have seen in French retail this quarter is probably a little bit strong, but for going forward, but in 2026, I think we can say that we will have a high single-digit increase in French retail in 2026. the 11% net interest income that we have seen in french retail this quarter is probably a little bit strong but for going forward but in 2026 i think we can say that we will have a high single-digit increase in french retail in 2026 And then maybe coming back, because Cécile and the team were just checking to the corporate center, the minus EUR 400 million I was talking about is indeed a good order of magnitude for a guidance for the net income for the corporate center by 2028. and then maybe coming back because cécile and the team were just checking to the corporate center the minus eur 400 million i was talking about is indeed a good order of magnitude for a guidance for the net income for the corporate center by 2028 Thank you. thank you

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you very much, everyone, for your attention. So I'm not gonna come back to the results that are very strong this year. I just wanted to make one last point. We talked a lot about the medium-term plan, which is very good because we're really orienting ourselves into this medium-term plan by 2028. And during the medium-term plan, we had promised that we would do a couple of workshops on a couple of businesses. And in particular, we had talked to you about a workshop for LCL in the first half of this year. And so I'm very pleased to ask you to save the date of May 26th, where we will be pleased to host you for an LCL workshop in Paris. And I'm gonna stop there. Thank you. thank you Thank you very much, everyone, for your attention. thank you very much everyone for your attention So I'm not gonna come back to the results that are very strong this year. so i'm not gonna come back to the results that are very strong this year I just wanted to make one last point. i just wanted to make one last point We talked a lot about the medium-term plan, which is very good because we're really orienting ourselves into this medium-term plan by 2028. we talked a lot about the medium-term plan which is very good because we're really orienting ourselves into this medium-term plan by 2028 And during the medium-term plan, we had promised that we would do a couple of workshops on a couple of businesses. and during the medium-term plan we had promised that we would do a couple of workshops on a couple of businesses And in particular, we had talked to you about a workshop for LCL in the first half of this year. and in particular we had talked to you about a workshop for lcl in the first half of this year And so I'm very pleased to ask you to save the date of May 26th, where we will be pleased to host you for an LCL workshop in Paris. and so i'm very pleased to ask you to save the date of may 26th where we will be pleased to host you for an lcl workshop in paris And I'm gonna stop there. and i'm gonna stop there Thank you, everyone, for your attention, and have a very nice day. Thank you. Thank you, everyone, for your attention, and have a very nice day. thank you everyone for your attention and have a very nice day Thank you. thank you

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