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Alexander & Baldwin, Inc. — Call Transcript 2025
Oct 30, 2025
Thank you, Operator. Aloha and welcome to Alexander & Baldwin's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are A&B's Chief Executive Officer, Lance Parker, and Chief Financial Officer, Clayton Chun. We are also joined by Kit Millan, Senior Vice President of Asset Management, who is available to participate in the Q&A portion of the call. During our call, please refer to our third quarter 2025 financial presentation available on our website at investors.alexanderbaldwin.com. Before we commence, please note that statements in this presentation that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by the relevant forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding possible or assumed future results of operations, business strategies, growth opportunities, and competitive positions. In addition, words such as believes, expects, anticipates, intends, plans, estimates, projects, forecasts, and future or conditional verbs such as will, may, could, should, and would, as well as any other statement that necessarily depends on future events, are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking statements speak only as of the date the statements were made and are not guarantees of future performance. Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties, assumptions, and other factors that could cause actual results and the timing of certain events to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by the forward-looking statements. These factors include, but are not limited to, prevailing market conditions and other factors related to the company's REIT status and the company's business, and the risk factors discussed in Part I, Item 1A, of the company's most recent Form 10-K under the heading Risk Factors, Form 10-Q, and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The information in this presentation should be evaluated in light of these important risk factors. We do not undertake any obligation to update the company's forward-looking statements. Management will be referring to non-GAAP financial measures during our call today. Please refer to our statement regarding the use of these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations included in our third quarter 2025 supplemental information and presentation materials. Lance will start today's presentation highlighting Alexander & Baldwin's third quarter highlights and CRE results and then hand it over to Clayton for a discussion on financial matters. To close, Lance will return for final remarks and open it up for your questions. With that, let me turn the call over to Lance. Thank you, Tram. That was a lot. Great job. Aloha and thanks to everyone joining us on the call today. Overall, our third quarter results exceeded expectations, and I am pleased by the progress we've made throughout the year. Our full-year outlook remains positive, and as a result, we are raising our FFO guidance. Turning to quarter highlights, our CRE portfolio performed in line with expectations and experienced same-store NOI growth of 0.6% for the quarter. Subsequent to quarter end, we executed a renewal with an anchor tenant in Kailua Town at an 11% lease spread, reflecting continued leasing strength. On the internal growth front, we continued to build momentum. At Komohana Industrial Park in West Oahu, we broke ground on two new buildings, a 91,000-square-foot warehouse pre-leased to Lowe’s and a 30,000-square-foot one on spec. We've already seen early interest in Building 2, underscoring demand for newly constructed industrial product in the market. We expect both buildings to be placed into service in the fourth quarter of 2026 and generate $2.8 million in annual NOI when they are stabilized in the first quarter of 2027. On Maui, vertical construction at our project at Maui Business Park remains on schedule, with completion anticipated in the first quarter of 2026. This project is expected to add approximately $1 million in annual NOI when it is complete. Earlier this year, we executed a strategic backfill at Kaka‘ako Commerce Center, successfully leasing two challenging vacant floors to a single tenant, bringing occupancy to 96.3%. During the third quarter, the company completed all required contingencies, and the tenant exercised their option to purchase three floors. This transaction provides an additional source of capital for future acquisition opportunities. On the external growth side, we're seeing increased momentum in the Hawaii investment market, including three large portfolios being marketed for sale, and we are actively pursuing acquisition opportunities aligned with our long-term growth strategy. Turning to our third quarter CRE highlights, we executed 49 leases in our improved property portfolio, representing approximately 164,000 square feet of GLA and $3.3 million of ABR. Our blended leasing spreads increased 4.4% on a comparable basis. Our lease occupancy was 95.6%, 160 basis points higher compared to the third quarter of last year and 20 basis points lower sequentially. Economic occupancy at quarter end was 94.3%, 130 basis points higher than the same period last year and 50 basis points lower than last quarter. SNO at quarter end was $6.4 million, including $3.1 million related to our two build-to-suit projects and $700,000 for our ground lease at Maui Business Park. We remain confident in our full-year outlook. Our CRE portfolio continues to perform well, and I'm encouraged by the progress across our internal and external growth initiatives. With that, I'll turn the call over to Clayton to discuss financial results and our full-year outlook. Clayton? Thanks, Lance. And aloha, everyone. Our portfolio generated $32.8 million of NOI in the third quarter, representing an increase of 1.2% over the same period last year. This growth was primarily driven by higher base rent year over year. Same-store NOI was $31.9 million for the quarter, a 60 basis point increase year over year. Consistent with our prior guidance, we experienced modest growth in the third quarter. This was due primarily to the impact of tenant move-outs that occurred earlier this year and have since been backfilled in one-time recoveries in Q3 of 2024. Additionally, higher bad debt expense related to a few isolated tenants further tempered growth in the quarter. Third quarter CRE and corporate-related FFO per share of $0.30 grew $0.02 or 7.1% from the same quarter last year. This improvement was attributed to lower G&A and higher portfolio NOI. Total company FFO for the quarter was $0.29 per share. In addition to the $0.30 from CRE and corporate previously mentioned, FFO for the third quarter included an operating loss of $298,000 from land operations as there were no land parcel sales in the quarter. Annual carrying costs in land operations continues to be in the range of $3.75 million-$4.5 million. G&A was $6.1 million for the quarter, approximately $1.4 million lower than the same period last year, primarily reflecting certain non-recurring and transaction-related items, as well as the timing of recurring expenses. In line with prior guidance, we expect full-year G&A to range from flat to a penny per share lower as compared to 2024. As Lance mentioned earlier, a tenant at Kaka‘ako Commerce Center has exercised its purchase option of three floors, two of which they currently lease. The sale is expected to close in the first quarter of 2026 and will generate $24.1 million of proceeds that we expect to recycle into an acquisition property via a 1031 exchange. Turning to our balance sheet and liquidity. At quarter end, we had total liquidity of $284.3 million, and our net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio stood at 3.5 times. Approximately 89% of our debt was at fixed rates, and our weighted average interest rate was 4.7%. Consistent with historical practice, the company's Board of Directors plans to declare a fourth quarter 2025 dividend in December with payment in January. Given our year-to-date performance, we are pleased to update our 2025 guidance as follows. We are reaffirming our guidance of full-year same-store NOI growth of 3.4%-3.8%. Implied in this guidance is our estimate for the fourth quarter, where we expect a 4.4% same-store NOI growth at the midpoint. We are raising our guidance for CRE and corporate FFO and expect our full-year results to be within a range of $1.13-$1.17 per share, due primarily to the lower-than-expected interest expense in the third quarter. Total FFO is now expected to be $1.36-$1.41 per share, up a penny from our previous guidance. We feel confident about our portfolio, and we've positioned ourselves to close out the 2025 year strong. With that, I will turn the call over to Lance for his closing remarks. Thank you, Clayton. To wrap up, I'm pleased with our overall performance. This is the third consecutive quarter we've raised guidance, reflecting our continued confidence in the full-year outlook. Our CRE FFO for the year has outperformed initial expectations, driven by strong portfolio performance, better-than-expected expense management, and steady progress across our growth initiatives. As we look ahead, we remain optimistic about how the year is shaping up and focused on executing our strategy to drive long-term value for shareholders. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to questions. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star key followed by the number one on your touch-tone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press the star key followed by the number two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please, for your first question. Your first question comes from Rob Stevenson of Janney. Please go ahead. Good afternoon, guys. Either Lance or Clayton, can you talk about when the $6.4 million of ABR from the SNO leases start to impact earnings or the bulk of that as we start thinking about 2026 in our model? Is that halfway through the year, or is that towards the end of the year? How should we be thinking about when that $6.4 million comes online? Hi, Rob. This is Clayton. I'll start off, and then either Lance or Kit can chime in and elaborate. With respect to the SNO, we typically anticipate normal SNO to become economic over 9 months-12 months. What's embedded in the SNO, importantly, is a couple of our development projects that are currently ongoing. One of those is a build-to-suit on Maui, and that's about $1 million, and that's expected to become economic in Q1 of next year. We also have a Komohana, which is a build-to-suit for Lowe’s, and that one's going to be really more in the fourth quarter or Q1 of 2027 timeframe. That one is about a couple million, so. Okay. That's helpful. You said that the $24 million that you're getting on the purchase option that you're going to 1031 that. Has the asset that that's going to be rolled into been identified yet, or is that still to be determined? Hey, Rob, it's Lance. No, it has not yet been determined. I've spoken in the past just about the fact that our market is starting to open up from an investment standpoint, and there's a few active portfolios being marketed. Our investment team has been really busy in underwriting opportunities. We feel confident, particularly given the timing, that it won't close until Q1 of next year. We'll have sufficient time to identify and close on the upleg. Okay. Clayton, you said that you're still expecting, despite the reduced G&A in the quarter, you're still expecting sort of flat to a penny a share lower versus 2024. If I look at 2024, you were just under $30 million. You're at, call it, $20 million year to date. You guys are going to be at somewhere between, call it, $9 million-$10 million of G&A in the fourth quarter. That sounds right? Yeah. We are expecting an uptick in G&A in the fourth quarter. I think if you do the math, it would be around $9 milloin-ish. What that's really reflecting is just we did have some timing differences that were part of our Q3 numbers, and so there's some element to that. In addition, we've been pretty open about the fact that we've been actively pursuing opportunities in the market. Our guidance does reflect that there would be some transaction-related costs associated with those pursuits. Now, having said that, we are taking steps to mitigate these items and control costs to the extent that we're able to, but that's really what our G&A guidance currently reflects. Okay. Last one for me. Did you guys, did the entirety of the Sam's Club TI hit in the third quarter? If so, what was that? It did. We paid that out, and it was about $19.6 million. Okay, thanks, guys. Appreciate the time this evening. Thanks, Rob. Your next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Hey. I think it's still good morning out there, so good morning out there. Just a few questions. First, and forgive me, my Hawaiian is not good, so if I botch the name, Kaka‘ako, the two-floor sale in that asset. Is that something common that you have in other properties, and do you have it in the rest of this building? We normally don't see tenants sort of buying out their floors. We see that overseas in various foreign markets, but in the U.S., a little less common. Just curious if there are other buildings or other parts of this building that have that same structure and if that's something that we may see more of as a way for you guys to extract value. Hey, Alex, it's Lance. I'm going to give you a solid C on the Hawaiian because you nailed the first half. The second half of the pronunciation was a little rough, but I appreciate the effort. Kaka‘ako Commerce Center, if you may recall, is a six-story industrial building that we own in urban Honolulu. We had one floor that was vacant in all of 2024. It was the sixth floor. It was pretty challenging. I just want to commend the team for coming up with a really creative solution that allowed us to backfill not just that floor, but a second floor to the same tenant. One of the ways that we attracted this tenant is we actually put a CPR or condo map on the building so that we could divide each of the six floors into individual units. We provided an option to that tenant to purchase, which they have now exercised. It is unique to the space. It's a unique building. We don't have anything else like it in the portfolio. It was a really creative solution, one, to take the overall leased occupancy in the space to over 96% and allow us to extract some capital and recycle it into other strategic investments. Okay. The next question is, I appreciate the commentary on the land overhead, the penny loss, just because there are no land sales. Is that something that we should think about for next year? As we're modeling 2026, just think about that there's a -$0.01 per quarter if there aren't any land sales. Alex, it's Clayton. With respect to next year, as you know, we haven't guided for 2026 at this point. What we have provided guidance on is the run rate for land operations. In that, we have indicated that there's $3.75 million-$4.5 million, which is the annualized run rate. We are very conscious and taking steps to manage those costs as best as possible. As we're able to further monetize and streamline, we're going to be bringing that cost down further. At this point, this is what we have for our run rate. We'll give you more information in the fourth quarter as we guide to 2026. Right. Basically, absent land sales, it's a penny a quarter is the drag. We do also have some offsetting revenue. We've got some land leases in some of the non-core assets that we still own in Land Operations. To Clayton's point, in the absence of any activity, which we have typically not guided to because we acknowledge it's episodic, you should or could expect a modest loss in the Land Operations division. Okay. Finally, on the rent spreads, first of all, great to see you guys raising guidance, so I don't want to take away from that. On the new rents, recently they've been slightly negative. The renewals have been positive, which is great. I'm just sort of curious, why would I usually see new rent spreads to be much higher than renewals, and here you guys seem to be trending the reverse. Is there something peculiar about the past number of quarters, the types of deals that have been rolling, or what else is sort of driving this dynamic? I'll start first with just what happened in Q3, Alex. I think it's sort of a similar dynamic for prior quarters where, in some cases, and it certainly was this past quarter, we have one tenant that sort of disproportionately impacted our numbers. Yeah, you guys have talked about the Sam's. Yeah. In this case, it was one tenant in Kailua, and we had basically moved the use from a residential brokerage operation to a Pilates studio. That deal was more about the fact that the prior tenant was above market than it was that the new tenant was below market. Just for context, we're talking about a 2,000 square foot space, and the absolute dollar impact was about $33,000 of ABR. At least from our perspective, it was more just a deal as opposed to anything that's reflective of the portfolio as a whole. Okay. Yeah. No, I mean, when you look at the volume, it's pretty clear the new deals are very, it's a very small sample set versus the renewals are more robust, which is why I asked if it was just the peculiarities of what it was. That's helpful. Anyway, listen, thank you. Okay, thanks, Alex. Your next question is from Mitch Germain of Citizens Bank. Please go ahead. Thank you. Do you guys have the same-store number if you remove that one-time item in the prior? I think you have one-time reimbursement. If you remove that, where would your same-store have been for the quarter? Hi, Mitch. Clayton. I'll take that one, and Kit can chime in to the extent it needs more elaboration. Our same-store NOI growth was impacted by a couple key factors, one of which was the one-time item related to bad debt. We also had a couple non-recurring items related to real property tax that really pertained to Q3 of last year. If you were to take those into account, as well as some move-outs, we actually quantified that to be about 370 basis points collectively. That would have got you more in line with what we were experiencing, same-store NOI growth for the first half of the year. Three main factors, just to recap: it's the bad debt, there were the real property tax one-time items that related to last year, and then we had known move-outs that happened. That was economic in Q3 of last year, but not this year. Right. I think that's perfect. Thank you. I just wanted to add also, I think it's important to note that those known move-outs, all of them have been backfilled. They're not all economic yet, but they will all be economic in Q1. The final one is the Komohana ground lease that we are now converting to a new build and space lease property. Perfect. Lance, you seem pretty bullish about acquisition prospects. It seems like that tone has continued. I'm curious about the competitive landscape. Are you seeing a lot of that private capital back now that the lending markets appear to be a little bit more efficient currently? We've talked in the past, Mitch, just about the typical construct of the competitive market that we play in, where typically lower-priced assets from just a dollar standpoint, we're usually competing with local buyers, sometimes smaller family offices here. When we get into larger assets, typically $100 million+, you'll start to see mainland capital, whether it's on the private side. Rarely we'll see any public. We don't have too many REITs in our asset classes. That middle space is where we tend to see less competition from the extremes. Specifically to what we're seeing in the market, look, we're just really sort of seeing it open up. I referenced a few portfolios. There are two retail portfolios that are currently being marketed. There's an industrial portfolio that's currently being marketed. Portfolios in scale typically are larger and more expensive. We are seeing some mainland capital explore the marketplace, sort of typical in terms of the types of people that we compete with. Usually where we have the competitive edge against buyers like that is the fact that we're here, we're local, and we know the assets typically better than mainland buyers. We're optimistic that we'll be able to make some of these or other opportunities that we're looking at work. Obviously, at the end of the day, it's going to be subject to pricing. Hopefully, that gives you just some color in terms of what we're seeing in real time. Perfect. Thank you, guys. Your next question comes from Brendan McCarthy from Sidoti. Please go ahead. Great. Hey, Lance. Hey, Clay. Appreciate you taking my questions here. Just wanted to start off looking at the ground lease portfolio, the 36-acre industrial space. I know that that was up for renewal, I think, this year. Just curious if you can provide color on how we can think about the renewal process there. I think I noticed in some marketing materials that you're considering developing that internally. I think it's the heartyard. Just curious as to how we can think about that asset. Hey, Brendan. It's Lance. We've talked about the likelihood of that ground lease renewing. We still have that perspective. I think it's highly likely that we end up renewing the tenant there. We are in early discussions despite the fact that it does naturally expire at the end of this year. It's premature to provide any color in terms of where we think that ends up. Longer term, we have been articulating just the internal growth path that we have as a result of our land inventory. Some of it is currently ready to build in Maui Business Park. Others in Kapolei, like this 36 acres, is currently under covered ground leases. We're getting active income while we can plan. That's really more sort of longer-term value creation once we get through the renewal process. That probably takes us out a few more years before we go active on that. That makes sense. Any detail on the potential ABR step-up opportunity there with the renewal? Just because this is sort of live, probably inappropriate and premature for us to discuss, but hopefully by our next call, we'll have more insight in how that kind of played out. That makes sense. Understood. Looking at capital allocation, I know you discussed a favorable outlook, improving outlook on the deal market. You have these internal development opportunities. How can we kind of think about share buybacks? I know we discussed this on a previous call, but considering where their share prices are, are share buybacks something that you're increasingly looking into? I'll take that. Hey, Brendan, Clayton. With respect to the share repurchases, we do have a program that is in effect and that is one of the tools that we have in our capital allocation toolkit. Obviously, as the stock price fluctuates, that does weigh into our consideration. At the end of the day, we kind of look at capital allocation just from a risk-adjusted return perspective. That would entail whether it's placing capital for acquisitions, for internal development opportunities, as well as share repurchases. We are considering that, and we'll make decisions according to the opportunities that are in front of us. Got it. Thanks, Clayton. Thanks, Lance. That's all for me. Thanks, Brandon. As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please press star one. Your next question comes from Gaurav Mehta of Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead. Thank you. I wanted to ask you on the portfolios that you discussed. I think you said two retail and one industrial. Can you provide some color on what kind of pricing and cap rates you are seeing on those portfolios? Just to clarify, are those portfolios you are looking at for your own acquisition, or are they being marketed for sale in the transaction market? Hey, Gaurav. It's Lance. Just because these are live deals, I'm not sure it would be appropriate for me to talk about our perspective on cap rates. To the second part of your question, before I provide a little bit more detail, I would say, look, we look at every opportunity that comes into the market. We typically don't talk about deals that we're actively pursuing or actively considering until we get further along in the process, typically after we close. That all said, our perspective on the market in general is sort of holding from where we were last quarter. I would say expected pricing in the market, call it 5%-6% cap type deals in general. You may see flex on either side of that, depending on the type of asset we're looking at, depending on the quality of the property that it may be. Value-add type deals, for example, you would expect to see some expansion on that cap rate. Ground leases, you would expect to see some compression on those cap rates. In general, that's sort of our perspective of where the market is today. Okay. Second question I want to ask you on your office portfolio. The office property Lono Center, I noticed the occupancy on that property is 37%. I just want to get some color on that property. Generally, what you're thinking about your office portfolio, is that something you want to hold or is that something you want to recycle at some point? Lono Center is actually one of two office buildings that sits on a 19-acre block that we own in Kahului on Maui. We purposefully were driving occupancy away from that building into our Kahului office building. The thinking was that could have been an individual disposition, maybe even an owner-user type sale. We do have that 19-acre block currently on the market. We have it listed for sale. We've been in discussions with a buyer. I think we may have disclosed that last quarter. We are actively looking to dispose of what we've talked about in the past, again, as non-strategic asset class for us, recycling that capital into more strategic investments. As we sort of head into the end of the year, we can probably provide a little bit more color in terms of where that process stands. Okay, thank you. That's all I had. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Clayton Chun. Please continue. Thank you, operator. Thank you all for joining us today. If you have any follow-up questions, please feel free to call us at 808-525-8475 or email us.
Speaker 9: Thank you, Operator. Aloha and welcome to Alexander & Baldwin's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are A&B's Chief Executive Officer, Lance Parker, and Chief Financial Officer, Clayton Chun. We are also joined by Kit Millan, Senior Vice President of Asset Management, who is available to participate in the Q&A portion of the call. During our call, please refer to our third quarter 2025 financial presentation available on our website at investors.alexanderbaldwin.com. Before we commence, please note that statements in this presentation that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by the relevant forward-looking statements. Thank you, Operator. thank you operator Aloha and welcome to Alexander & Baldwin's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. aloha and welcome to alexander & baldwin's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call With me today are A&B's Chief Executive Officer, Lance Parker, and Chief Financial Officer, Clayton Chun. with me today are a&b's chief executive officer lance parker and chief financial officer clayton chun We are also joined by Kit Millan, Senior Vice President of Asset Management, who is available to participate in the Q&A portion of the call. we are also joined by kit millan senior vice president of asset management who is available to participate in the q&a portion of the call During our call, please refer to our third quarter 2025 financial presentation available on our website at investors.alexanderbaldwin.com. during our call please refer to our third quarter 2025 financial presentation available on our website at investors.alexanderbaldwin.com Before we commence, please note that statements in this presentation that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by the relevant forward-looking statements. before we commence please note that statements in this presentation that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the private securities litigation reform act of 1995 and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by the relevant forward-looking statements These forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding possible or assumed future results of operations, business strategies, growth opportunities, and competitive positions. In addition, words such as believes, expects, anticipates, intends, plans, estimates, projects, forecasts, and future or conditional verbs such as will, may, could, should, and would, as well as any other statement that necessarily depends on future events, are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking statements speak only as of the date the statements were made and are not guarantees of future performance. Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties, assumptions, and other factors that could cause actual results and the timing of certain events to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by the forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding possible or assumed future results of operations, business strategies, growth opportunities, and competitive positions. these forward-looking statements include but are not limited to statements regarding possible or assumed future results of operations business strategies growth opportunities and competitive positions In addition, words such as believes, expects, anticipates, intends, plans, estimates, projects, forecasts, and future or conditional verbs such as will, may, could, should, and would, as well as any other statement that necessarily depends on future events, are intended to identify forward-looking statements. in addition words such as believes expects anticipates intends plans estimates projects forecasts and future or conditional verbs such as will may could should and would as well as any other statement that necessarily depends on future events are intended to identify forward-looking statements Such forward-looking statements speak only as of the date the statements were made and are not guarantees of future performance. such forward-looking statements speak only as of the date the statements were made and are not guarantees of future performance Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties, assumptions, and other factors that could cause actual results and the timing of certain events to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by the forward-looking statements. forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks uncertainties assumptions and other factors that could cause actual results and the timing of certain events to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by the forward-looking statements These factors include, but are not limited to, prevailing market conditions and other factors related to the company's REIT status and the company's business, and the risk factors discussed in Part I, Item 1A, of the company's most recent Form 10-K under the heading Risk Factors, Form 10-Q, and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The information in this presentation should be evaluated in light of these important risk factors. We do not undertake any obligation to update the company's forward-looking statements. Management will be referring to non-GAAP financial measures during our call today. Please refer to our statement regarding the use of these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations included in our third quarter 2025 supplemental information and presentation materials. Lance will start today's presentation highlighting Alexander & Baldwin's third quarter highlights and CRE results and then hand it over to Clayton for a discussion on financial matters. These factors include, but are not limited to, prevailing market conditions and other factors related to the company's REIT status and the company's business, and the risk factors discussed in Part I, Item 1A, of the company's most recent Form 10-K under the heading Risk Factors, Form 10-Q, and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. these factors include but are not limited to prevailing market conditions and other factors related to the company's reit status and the company's business and the risk factors discussed in part i item 1a of the company's most recent form 10-k under the heading risk factors form 10-q and other filings with the securities and exchange commission The information in this presentation should be evaluated in light of these important risk factors. the information in this presentation should be evaluated in light of these important risk factors We do not undertake any obligation to update the company's forward-looking statements. we do not undertake any obligation to update the company's forward-looking statements Management will be referring to non-GAAP financial measures during our call today. management will be referring to non-gaap financial measures during our call today Please refer to our statement regarding the use of these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations included in our third quarter 2025 supplemental information and presentation materials. please refer to our statement regarding the use of these non-gaap measures and reconciliations included in our third quarter 2025 supplemental information and presentation materials Lance will start today's presentation highlighting Alexander & Baldwin's third quarter highlights and CRE results and then hand it over to Clayton for a discussion on financial matters. lance will start today's presentation highlighting alexander & baldwin's third quarter highlights and cre results and then hand it over to clayton for a discussion on financial matters To close, Lance will return for final remarks and open it up for your questions. With that, let me turn the call over to Lance. To close, Lance will return for final remarks and open it up for your questions. to close lance will return for final remarks and open it up for your questions With that, let me turn the call over to Lance. with that let me turn the call over to lance
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tram. That was a lot. Great job. Aloha and thanks to everyone joining us on the call today. Overall, our third quarter results exceeded expectations, and I am pleased by the progress we've made throughout the year. Our full-year outlook remains positive, and as a result, we are raising our FFO guidance. Turning to quarter highlights, our CRE portfolio performed in line with expectations and experienced same-store NOI growth of 0.6% for the quarter. Subsequent to quarter end, we executed a renewal with an anchor tenant in Kailua Town at an 11% lease spread, reflecting continued leasing strength. On the internal growth front, we continued to build momentum. At Komohana Industrial Park in West Oahu, we broke ground on two new buildings, a 91,000-square-foot warehouse pre-leased to Lowe’s and a 30,000-square-foot one on spec. Thank you, Tram. thank you tram That was a lot. that was a lot Great job. great job Aloha and thanks to everyone joining us on the call today. aloha and thanks to everyone joining us on the call today Overall, our third quarter results exceeded expectations, and I am pleased by the progress we've made throughout the year. overall our third quarter results exceeded expectations and i am pleased by the progress we've made throughout the year Our full-year outlook remains positive, and as a result, we are raising our FFO guidance. our full-year outlook remains positive and as a result we are raising our ffo guidance Turning to quarter highlights, our CRE portfolio performed in line with expectations and experienced same-store NOI growth of 0.6% for the quarter. turning to quarter highlights our cre portfolio performed in line with expectations and experienced same-store noi growth of 0.6% for the quarter Subsequent to quarter end, we executed a renewal with an anchor tenant in Kailua Town at an 11% lease spread, reflecting continued leasing strength. subsequent to quarter end we executed a renewal with an anchor tenant in kailua town at an 11% lease spread reflecting continued leasing strength On the internal growth front, we continued to build momentum. on the internal growth front we continued to build momentum At Komohana Industrial Park in West Oahu, we broke ground on two new buildings, a 91,000-square-foot warehouse pre-leased to Lowe’s and a 30,000-square-foot one on spec. at komohana industrial park in west oahu we broke ground on two new buildings a 91,000-square-foot warehouse pre-leased to lowe’s and a 30,000-square-foot one on spec We've already seen early interest in Building 2, underscoring demand for newly constructed industrial product in the market. We expect both buildings to be placed into service in the fourth quarter of 2026 and generate $2.8 million in annual NOI when they are stabilized in the first quarter of 2027. On Maui, vertical construction at our project at Maui Business Park remains on schedule, with completion anticipated in the first quarter of 2026. This project is expected to add approximately $1 million in annual NOI when it is complete. Earlier this year, we executed a strategic backfill at Kaka‘ako Commerce Center, successfully leasing two challenging vacant floors to a single tenant, bringing occupancy to 96.3%. During the third quarter, the company completed all required contingencies, and the tenant exercised their option to purchase three floors. This transaction provides an additional source of capital for future acquisition opportunities. We've already seen early interest in Building 2, underscoring demand for newly constructed industrial product in the market. we've already seen early interest in building 2 underscoring demand for newly constructed industrial product in the market We expect both buildings to be placed into service in the fourth quarter of 2026 and generate $2.8 million in annual NOI when they are stabilized in the first quarter of 2027. we expect both buildings to be placed into service in the fourth quarter of 2026 and generate $2.8 million in annual noi when they are stabilized in the first quarter of 2027 On Maui, vertical construction at our project at Maui Business Park remains on schedule, with completion anticipated in the first quarter of 2026. on maui vertical construction at our project at maui business park remains on schedule with completion anticipated in the first quarter of 2026 This project is expected to add approximately $1 million in annual NOI when it is complete. this project is expected to add approximately $1 million in annual noi when it is complete Earlier this year, we executed a strategic backfill at Kaka‘ako Commerce Center, successfully leasing two challenging vacant floors to a single tenant, bringing occupancy to 96.3%. earlier this year we executed a strategic backfill at kaka‘ako commerce center successfully leasing two challenging vacant floors to a single tenant bringing occupancy to 96.3% During the third quarter, the company completed all required contingencies, and the tenant exercised their option to purchase three floors. during the third quarter the company completed all required contingencies and the tenant exercised their option to purchase three floors This transaction provides an additional source of capital for future acquisition opportunities. this transaction provides an additional source of capital for future acquisition opportunities On the external growth side, we're seeing increased momentum in the Hawaii investment market, including three large portfolios being marketed for sale, and we are actively pursuing acquisition opportunities aligned with our long-term growth strategy. Turning to our third quarter CRE highlights, we executed 49 leases in our improved property portfolio, representing approximately 164,000 square feet of GLA and $3.3 million of ABR. Our blended leasing spreads increased 4.4% on a comparable basis. Our lease occupancy was 95.6%, 160 basis points higher compared to the third quarter of last year and 20 basis points lower sequentially. Economic occupancy at quarter end was 94.3%, 130 basis points higher than the same period last year and 50 basis points lower than last quarter. SNO at quarter end was $6.4 million, including $3.1 million related to our two build-to-suit projects and $700,000 for our ground lease at Maui Business Park. On the external growth side, we're seeing increased momentum in the Hawaii investment market, including three large portfolios being marketed for sale, and we are actively pursuing acquisition opportunities aligned with our long-term growth strategy. on the external growth side we're seeing increased momentum in the hawaii investment market including three large portfolios being marketed for sale and we are actively pursuing acquisition opportunities aligned with our long-term growth strategy Turning to our third quarter CRE highlights, we executed 49 leases in our improved property portfolio, representing approximately 164,000 square feet of GLA and $3.3 million of ABR. turning to our third quarter cre highlights we executed 49 leases in our improved property portfolio representing approximately 164,000 square feet of gla and $3.3 million of abr Our blended leasing spreads increased 4.4% on a comparable basis. our blended leasing spreads increased 4.4% on a comparable basis Our lease occupancy was 95.6%, 160 basis points higher compared to the third quarter of last year and 20 basis points lower sequentially. our lease occupancy was 95.6% 160 basis points higher compared to the third quarter of last year and 20 basis points lower sequentially Economic occupancy at quarter end was 94.3%, 130 basis points higher than the same period last year and 50 basis points lower than last quarter. economic occupancy at quarter end was 94.3% 130 basis points higher than the same period last year and 50 basis points lower than last quarter SNO at quarter end was $6.4 million, including $3.1 million related to our two build-to-suit projects and $700,000 for our ground lease at Maui Business Park. sno at quarter end was $6.4 million including $3.1 million related to our two build-to-suit projects and $700,000 for our ground lease at maui business park We remain confident in our full-year outlook. Our CRE portfolio continues to perform well, and I'm encouraged by the progress across our internal and external growth initiatives. With that, I'll turn the call over to Clayton to discuss financial results and our full-year outlook. Clayton? We remain confident in our full-year outlook. we remain confident in our full-year outlook Our CRE portfolio continues to perform well, and I'm encouraged by the progress across our internal and external growth initiatives. our cre portfolio continues to perform well and i'm encouraged by the progress across our internal and external growth initiatives With that, I'll turn the call over to Clayton to discuss financial results and our full-year outlook. with that i'll turn the call over to clayton to discuss financial results and our full-year outlook Clayton? clayton
Speaker 1: Thanks, Lance. And aloha, everyone. Our portfolio generated $32.8 million of NOI in the third quarter, representing an increase of 1.2% over the same period last year. This growth was primarily driven by higher base rent year over year. Same-store NOI was $31.9 million for the quarter, a 60 basis point increase year over year. Consistent with our prior guidance, we experienced modest growth in the third quarter. This was due primarily to the impact of tenant move-outs that occurred earlier this year and have since been backfilled in one-time recoveries in Q3 of 2024. Additionally, higher bad debt expense related to a few isolated tenants further tempered growth in the quarter. Third quarter CRE and corporate-related FFO per share of $0.30 grew $0.02 or 7.1% from the same quarter last year. This improvement was attributed to lower G&A and higher portfolio NOI. Thanks, Lance. thanks lance And aloha, everyone. and aloha everyone Our portfolio generated $32.8 million of NOI in the third quarter, representing an increase of 1.2% over the same period last year. our portfolio generated $32.8 million of noi in the third quarter representing an increase of 1.2% over the same period last year This growth was primarily driven by higher base rent year over year. this growth was primarily driven by higher base rent year over year Same-store NOI was $31.9 million for the quarter, a 60 basis point increase year over year. same-store noi was $31.9 million for the quarter a 60 basis point increase year over year Consistent with our prior guidance, we experienced modest growth in the third quarter. consistent with our prior guidance we experienced modest growth in the third quarter This was due primarily to the impact of tenant move-outs that occurred earlier this year and have since been backfilled in one-time recoveries in Q3 of 2024. this was due primarily to the impact of tenant move-outs that occurred earlier this year and have since been backfilled in one-time recoveries in q3 of 2024 Additionally, higher bad debt expense related to a few isolated tenants further tempered growth in the quarter. additionally higher bad debt expense related to a few isolated tenants further tempered growth in the quarter Third quarter CRE and corporate-related FFO per share of $0.30 grew $0.02 or 7.1% from the same quarter last year. third quarter cre and corporate-related ffo per share of $0.30 grew $0.02 or 7.1% from the same quarter last year This improvement was attributed to lower G&A and higher portfolio NOI. this improvement was attributed to lower g&a and higher portfolio noi Total company FFO for the quarter was $0.29 per share. In addition to the $0.30 from CRE and corporate previously mentioned, FFO for the third quarter included an operating loss of $298,000 from land operations as there were no land parcel sales in the quarter. Annual carrying costs in land operations continues to be in the range of $3.75 million-$4.5 million. G&A was $6.1 million for the quarter, approximately $1.4 million lower than the same period last year, primarily reflecting certain non-recurring and transaction-related items, as well as the timing of recurring expenses. In line with prior guidance, we expect full-year G&A to range from flat to a penny per share lower as compared to 2024. As Lance mentioned earlier, a tenant at Kaka‘ako Commerce Center has exercised its purchase option of three floors, two of which they currently lease. Total company FFO for the quarter was $0.29 per share. total company ffo for the quarter was $0.29 per share In addition to the $0.30 from CRE and corporate previously mentioned, FFO for the third quarter included an operating loss of $298,000 from land operations as there were no land parcel sales in the quarter. in addition to the $0.30 from cre and corporate previously mentioned ffo for the third quarter included an operating loss of $298,000 from land operations as there were no land parcel sales in the quarter Annual carrying costs in land operations continues to be in the range of $3.75 million- $4.5 million. annual carrying costs in land operations continues to be in the range of $3.75 million- $4.5 million G&A was $6.1 million for the quarter, approximately $1.4 million lower than the same period last year, primarily reflecting certain non-recurring and transaction-related items, as well as the timing of recurring expenses. g&a was $6.1 million for the quarter approximately $1.4 million lower than the same period last year primarily reflecting certain non-recurring and transaction-related items as well as the timing of recurring expenses In line with prior guidance, we expect full-year G&A to range from flat to a penny per share lower as compared to 2024. in line with prior guidance we expect full-year g&a to range from flat to a penny per share lower as compared to 2024 As Lance mentioned earlier, a tenant at Kaka‘ako Commerce Center has exercised its purchase option of three floors, two of which they currently lease. as lance mentioned earlier a tenant at kaka‘ako commerce center has exercised its purchase option of three floors two of which they currently lease The sale is expected to close in the first quarter of 2026 and will generate $24.1 million of proceeds that we expect to recycle into an acquisition property via a 1031 exchange. Turning to our balance sheet and liquidity. At quarter end, we had total liquidity of $284.3 million, and our net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio stood at 3.5 times. Approximately 89% of our debt was at fixed rates, and our weighted average interest rate was 4.7%. Consistent with historical practice, the company's Board of Directors plans to declare a fourth quarter 2025 dividend in December with payment in January. Given our year-to-date performance, we are pleased to update our 2025 guidance as follows. We are reaffirming our guidance of full-year same-store NOI growth of 3.4%-3.8%. The sale is expected to close in the first quarter of 2026 and will generate $24.1 million of proceeds that we expect to recycle into an acquisition property via a 1031 exchange. the sale is expected to close in the first quarter of 2026 and will generate $24.1 million of proceeds that we expect to recycle into an acquisition property via a 1031 exchange Turning to our balance sheet and liquidity. turning to our balance sheet and liquidity At quarter end, we had total liquidity of $284.3 million, and our net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio stood at 3.5 times. at quarter end we had total liquidity of $284.3 million and our net debt to adjusted ebitda ratio stood at 3.5 times Approximately 89% of our debt was at fixed rates, and our weighted average interest rate was 4.7%. approximately 89% of our debt was at fixed rates and our weighted average interest rate was 4.7% Consistent with historical practice, the company's Board of Directors plans to declare a fourth quarter 2025 dividend in December with payment in January. consistent with historical practice the company's board of directors plans to declare a fourth quarter 2025 dividend in december with payment in january Given our year-to-date performance, we are pleased to update our 2025 guidance as follows. given our year-to-date performance we are pleased to update our 2025 guidance as follows We are reaffirming our guidance of full-year same-store NOI growth of 3.4%- 3.8%. we are reaffirming our guidance of full-year same-store noi growth of 3.4%- 3.8% Implied in this guidance is our estimate for the fourth quarter, where we expect a 4.4% same-store NOI growth at the midpoint. We are raising our guidance for CRE and corporate FFO and expect our full-year results to be within a range of $1.13-$1.17 per share, due primarily to the lower-than-expected interest expense in the third quarter. Total FFO is now expected to be $1.36-$1.41 per share, up a penny from our previous guidance. We feel confident about our portfolio, and we've positioned ourselves to close out the 2025 year strong. With that, I will turn the call over to Lance for his closing remarks. Implied in this guidance is our estimate for the fourth quarter, where we expect a 4.4% same-store NOI growth at the midpoint. implied in this guidance is our estimate for the fourth quarter where we expect a 4.4% same-store noi growth at the midpoint We are raising our guidance for CRE and corporate FFO and expect our full-year results to be within a range of $1.13- $1.17 per share, due primarily to the lower-than-expected interest expense in the third quarter. we are raising our guidance for cre and corporate ffo and expect our full-year results to be within a range of $1.13- $1.17 per share due primarily to the lower-than-expected interest expense in the third quarter Total FFO is now expected to be $1.36- $1.41 per share, up a penny from our previous guidance. total ffo is now expected to be $1.36- $1.41 per share up a penny from our previous guidance We feel confident about our portfolio, and we've positioned ourselves to close out the 2025 year strong. we feel confident about our portfolio and we've positioned ourselves to close out the 2025 year strong With that, I will turn the call over to Lance for his closing remarks. with that i will turn the call over to lance for his closing remarks
Speaker 2: Thank you, Clayton. To wrap up, I'm pleased with our overall performance. This is the third consecutive quarter we've raised guidance, reflecting our continued confidence in the full-year outlook. Our CRE FFO for the year has outperformed initial expectations, driven by strong portfolio performance, better-than-expected expense management, and steady progress across our growth initiatives. As we look ahead, we remain optimistic about how the year is shaping up and focused on executing our strategy to drive long-term value for shareholders. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to questions. Thank you, Clayton. thank you clayton To wrap up, I'm pleased with our overall performance. to wrap up i'm pleased with our overall performance This is the third consecutive quarter we've raised guidance, reflecting our continued confidence in the full-year outlook. this is the third consecutive quarter we've raised guidance reflecting our continued confidence in the full-year outlook Our CRE FFO for the year has outperformed initial expectations, driven by strong portfolio performance, better-than-expected expense management, and steady progress across our growth initiatives. our cre ffo for the year has outperformed initial expectations driven by strong portfolio performance better-than-expected expense management and steady progress across our growth initiatives As we look ahead, we remain optimistic about how the year is shaping up and focused on executing our strategy to drive long-term value for shareholders. as we look ahead we remain optimistic about how the year is shaping up and focused on executing our strategy to drive long-term value for shareholders With that, I'd like to turn the call over to questions. with that i'd like to turn the call over to questions
Speaker 6: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star key followed by the number one on your touch-tone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press the star key followed by the number two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please, for your first question. Your first question comes from Rob Stevenson of Janney. Please go ahead. Thank you. thank you Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. ladies and gentlemen we will now begin the question-and-answer session Should you have a question, please press the star key followed by the number one on your touch-tone phone. should you have a question please press the star key followed by the number one on your touch-tone phone You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. you will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press the star key followed by the number two. should you wish to decline from the polling process please press the star key followed by the number two If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. if you are using a speakerphone please lift the handset before pressing any keys One moment, please, for your first question. one moment please for your first question Your first question comes from Rob Stevenson of Janney. your first question comes from rob stevenson of janney Please go ahead. please go ahead
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, guys. Either Lance or Clayton, can you talk about when the $6.4 million of ABR from the SNO leases start to impact earnings or the bulk of that as we start thinking about 2026 in our model? Is that halfway through the year, or is that towards the end of the year? How should we be thinking about when that $6.4 million comes online? Good afternoon, guys. good afternoon guys Either Lance or Clayton, can you talk about when the $6.4 million of ABR from the SNO leases start to impact earnings or the bulk of that as we start thinking about 2026 in our model? either lance or clayton can you talk about when the $6.4 million of abr from the sno leases start to impact earnings or the bulk of that as we start thinking about 2026 in our model Is that halfway through the year, or is that towards the end of the year? is that halfway through the year or is that towards the end of the year How should we be thinking about when that $6.4 million comes online? how should we be thinking about when that $6.4 million comes online
Speaker 1: Hi, Rob. This is Clayton. I'll start off, and then either Lance or Kit can chime in and elaborate. With respect to the SNO, we typically anticipate normal SNO to become economic over 9 months-12 months. What's embedded in the SNO, importantly, is a couple of our development projects that are currently ongoing. One of those is a build-to-suit on Maui, and that's about $1 million, and that's expected to become economic in Q1 of next year. We also have a Komohana, which is a build-to-suit for Lowe’s, and that one's going to be really more in the fourth quarter or Q1 of 2027 timeframe. That one is about a couple million, so. Hi, Rob. hi rob This is Clayton. this is clayton I'll start off, and then either Lance or Kit can chime in and elaborate. i'll start off and then either lance or kit can chime in and elaborate With respect to the SNO, we typically anticipate normal SNO to become economic over 9 months- 12 months. with respect to the sno we typically anticipate normal sno to become economic over 9 months- 12 months What's embedded in the SNO, importantly, is a couple of our development projects that are currently ongoing. what's embedded in the sno importantly is a couple of our development projects that are currently ongoing One of those is a build-to-suit on Maui, and that's about $1 million, and that's expected to become economic in Q1 of next year. one of those is a build-to-suit on maui and that's about $1 million and that's expected to become economic in q1 of next year We also have a Komohana, which is a build-to-suit for Lowe’s, and that one's going to be really more in the fourth quarter or Q1 of 2027 timeframe. we also have a komohana which is a build-to-suit for lowe’s and that one's going to be really more in the fourth quarter or q1 of 2027 timeframe That one is about a couple million, so. that one is about a couple million so
Speaker 3: Okay. That's helpful. You said that the $24 million that you're getting on the purchase option that you're going to 1031 that. Has the asset that that's going to be rolled into been identified yet, or is that still to be determined? Okay. okay That's helpful. that's helpful You said that the $24 million that you're getting on the purchase option that you're going to 1031 that. you said that the $24 million that you're getting on the purchase option that you're going to 1031 that Has the asset that that's going to be rolled into been identified yet, or is that still to be determined? has the asset that that's going to be rolled into been identified yet or is that still to be determined
Speaker 2: Hey, Rob, it's Lance. No, it has not yet been determined. I've spoken in the past just about the fact that our market is starting to open up from an investment standpoint, and there's a few active portfolios being marketed. Our investment team has been really busy in underwriting opportunities. We feel confident, particularly given the timing, that it won't close until Q1 of next year. We'll have sufficient time to identify and close on the upleg. Hey, Rob, it's Lance. hey rob it's lance No, it has not yet been determined. no it has not yet been determined I've spoken in the past just about the fact that our market is starting to open up from an investment standpoint, and there's a few active portfolios being marketed. i've spoken in the past just about the fact that our market is starting to open up from an investment standpoint and there's a few active portfolios being marketed Our investment team has been really busy in underwriting opportunities. our investment team has been really busy in underwriting opportunities We feel confident, particularly given the timing, that it won't close until Q1 of next year. we feel confident particularly given the timing that it won't close until q1 of next year We'll have sufficient time to identify and close on the upleg. we'll have sufficient time to identify and close on the upleg
Speaker 3: Okay. Clayton, you said that you're still expecting, despite the reduced G&A in the quarter, you're still expecting sort of flat to a penny a share lower versus 2024. If I look at 2024, you were just under $30 million. You're at, call it, $20 million year to date. You guys are going to be at somewhere between, call it, $9 million-$10 million of G&A in the fourth quarter. That sounds right? Okay. okay Clayton, you said that you're still expecting, despite the reduced G&A in the quarter, you're still expecting sort of flat to a penny a share lower versus 2024. clayton you said that you're still expecting despite the reduced g&a in the quarter you're still expecting sort of flat to a penny a share lower versus 2024 If I look at 2024, you were just under $30 million. if i look at 2024 you were just under $30 million You're at, call it, $20 million year to date. you're at call it $20 million year to date You guys are going to be at somewhere between, call it, $9 million- $10 million of G&A in the fourth quarter. you guys are going to be at somewhere between call it $9 million- $10 million of g&a in the fourth quarter That sounds right? that sounds right
Speaker 1: Yeah. We are expecting an uptick in G&A in the fourth quarter. I think if you do the math, it would be around $9 milloin-ish. What that's really reflecting is just we did have some timing differences that were part of our Q3 numbers, and so there's some element to that. In addition, we've been pretty open about the fact that we've been actively pursuing opportunities in the market. Our guidance does reflect that there would be some transaction-related costs associated with those pursuits. Now, having said that, we are taking steps to mitigate these items and control costs to the extent that we're able to, but that's really what our G&A guidance currently reflects. Yeah. yeah We are expecting an uptick in G&A in the fourth quarter. we are expecting an uptick in g&a in the fourth quarter I think if you do the math, it would be around $9 milloin-ish. i think if you do the math it would be around $9 milloin-ish What that's really reflecting is just we did have some timing differences that were part of our Q3 numbers, and so there's some element to that. what that's really reflecting is just we did have some timing differences that were part of our q3 numbers and so there's some element to that In addition, we've been pretty open about the fact that we've been actively pursuing opportunities in the market. in addition we've been pretty open about the fact that we've been actively pursuing opportunities in the market Our guidance does reflect that there would be some transaction-related costs associated with those pursuits. our guidance does reflect that there would be some transaction-related costs associated with those pursuits Now, having said that, we are taking steps to mitigate these items and control costs to the extent that we're able to, but that's really what our G&A guidance currently reflects. now having said that we are taking steps to mitigate these items and control costs to the extent that we're able to but that's really what our g&a guidance currently reflects
Speaker 3: Okay. Last one for me. Did you guys, did the entirety of the Sam's Club TI hit in the third quarter? If so, what was that? Okay. okay Last one for me. last one for me Did you guys, did the entirety of the Sam's Club TI hit in the third quarter? did you guys did the entirety of the sam's club ti hit in the third quarter If so, what was that? if so what was that
Speaker 1: It did. We paid that out, and it was about $19.6 million. It did. it did We paid that out, and it was about $19.6 million. we paid that out and it was about $19.6 million
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, guys. Appreciate the time this evening. Okay, thanks, guys. okay thanks guys Appreciate the time this evening. appreciate the time this evening
Speaker 1: Thanks, Rob. Thanks, Rob. thanks rob
Speaker 6: Your next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Your next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb of Piper Sandler. your next question comes from alexander goldfarb of piper sandler Please go ahead. please go ahead
Speaker 10: Hey. I think it's still good morning out there, so good morning out there. Just a few questions. First, and forgive me, my Hawaiian is not good, so if I botch the name, Kaka‘ako, the two-floor sale in that asset. Is that something common that you have in other properties, and do you have it in the rest of this building? We normally don't see tenants sort of buying out their floors. We see that overseas in various foreign markets, but in the U.S., a little less common. Just curious if there are other buildings or other parts of this building that have that same structure and if that's something that we may see more of as a way for you guys to extract value. Hey. hey I think it's still good morning out there, so good morning out there. i think it's still good morning out there so good morning out there Just a few questions. just a few questions First, and forgive me, my Hawaiian is not good, so if I botch the name, Kaka‘ako, the two-floor sale in that asset. first and forgive me my hawaiian is not good so if i botch the name kaka‘ako the two-floor sale in that asset Is that something common that you have in other properties, and do you have it in the rest of this building? is that something common that you have in other properties and do you have it in the rest of this building We normally don't see tenants sort of buying out their floors. we normally don't see tenants sort of buying out their floors We see that overseas in various foreign markets, but in the U.S., a little less common. we see that overseas in various foreign markets but in the u.s a little less common Just curious if there are other buildings or other parts of this building that have that same structure and if that's something that we may see more of as a way for you guys to extract value. just curious if there are other buildings or other parts of this building that have that same structure and if that's something that we may see more of as a way for you guys to extract value
Speaker 2: Hey, Alex, it's Lance. I'm going to give you a solid C on the Hawaiian because you nailed the first half. The second half of the pronunciation was a little rough, but I appreciate the effort. Kaka‘ako Commerce Center, if you may recall, is a six-story industrial building that we own in urban Honolulu. We had one floor that was vacant in all of 2024. It was the sixth floor. It was pretty challenging. I just want to commend the team for coming up with a really creative solution that allowed us to backfill not just that floor, but a second floor to the same tenant. One of the ways that we attracted this tenant is we actually put a CPR or condo map on the building so that we could divide each of the six floors into individual units. Hey, Alex, it's Lance. hey alex it's lance I'm going to give you a solid C on the Hawaiian because you nailed the first half. i'm going to give you a solid c on the hawaiian because you nailed the first half The second half of the pronunciation was a little rough, but I appreciate the effort. the second half of the pronunciation was a little rough but i appreciate the effort Kaka‘ako Commerce Center, if you may recall, is a six-story industrial building that we own in urban Honolulu. kaka‘ako commerce center if you may recall is a six-story industrial building that we own in urban honolulu We had one floor that was vacant in all of 2024. we had one floor that was vacant in all of 2024 It was the sixth floor. it was the sixth floor It was pretty challenging. it was pretty challenging I just want to commend the team for coming up with a really creative solution that allowed us to backfill not just that floor, but a second floor to the same tenant. i just want to commend the team for coming up with a really creative solution that allowed us to backfill not just that floor but a second floor to the same tenant One of the ways that we attracted this tenant is we actually put a CPR or condo map on the building so that we could divide each of the six floors into individual units. one of the ways that we attracted this tenant is we actually put a cpr or condo map on the building so that we could divide each of the six floors into individual units We provided an option to that tenant to purchase, which they have now exercised. It is unique to the space. It's a unique building. We don't have anything else like it in the portfolio. It was a really creative solution, one, to take the overall leased occupancy in the space to over 96% and allow us to extract some capital and recycle it into other strategic investments. We provided an option to that tenant to purchase, which they have now exercised. we provided an option to that tenant to purchase which they have now exercised It is unique to the space. it is unique to the space It's a unique building. it's a unique building We don't have anything else like it in the portfolio. we don't have anything else like it in the portfolio It was a really creative solution, one, to take the overall leased occupancy in the space to over 96% and allow us to extract some capital and recycle it into other strategic investments. it was a really creative solution one to take the overall leased occupancy in the space to over 96% and allow us to extract some capital and recycle it into other strategic investments
Speaker 10: Okay. The next question is, I appreciate the commentary on the land overhead, the penny loss, just because there are no land sales. Is that something that we should think about for next year? As we're modeling 2026, just think about that there's a -$0.01 per quarter if there aren't any land sales. Okay. okay The next question is, I appreciate the commentary on the land overhead, the penny loss, just because there are no land sales. the next question is i appreciate the commentary on the land overhead the penny loss just because there are no land sales Is that something that we should think about for next year? is that something that we should think about for next year As we're modeling 2026, just think about that there's a - $0.01 per quarter if there aren't any land sales. as we're modeling 2026 just think about that there's a - $0.01 per quarter if there aren't any land sales
Speaker 1: Alex, it's Clayton. With respect to next year, as you know, we haven't guided for 2026 at this point. What we have provided guidance on is the run rate for land operations. In that, we have indicated that there's $3.75 million-$4.5 million, which is the annualized run rate. We are very conscious and taking steps to manage those costs as best as possible. As we're able to further monetize and streamline, we're going to be bringing that cost down further. At this point, this is what we have for our run rate. We'll give you more information in the fourth quarter as we guide to 2026. Alex, it's Clayton. alex it's clayton With respect to next year, as you know, we haven't guided for 2026 at this point. with respect to next year as you know we haven't guided for 2026 at this point What we have provided guidance on is the run rate for land operations. what we have provided guidance on is the run rate for land operations In that, we have indicated that there's $3.75 million- $4.5 million, which is the annualized run rate. in that we have indicated that there's $3.75 million- $4.5 million which is the annualized run rate We are very conscious and taking steps to manage those costs as best as possible. we are very conscious and taking steps to manage those costs as best as possible As we're able to further monetize and streamline, we're going to be bringing that cost down further. as we're able to further monetize and streamline we're going to be bringing that cost down further At this point, this is what we have for our run rate. at this point this is what we have for our run rate We'll give you more information in the fourth quarter as we guide to 2026. we'll give you more information in the fourth quarter as we guide to 2026
Speaker 10: Right. Basically, absent land sales, it's a penny a quarter is the drag. Right. right Basically, absent land sales, it's a penny a quarter is the drag. basically absent land sales it's a penny a quarter is the drag
Speaker 2: We do also have some offsetting revenue. We've got some land leases in some of the non-core assets that we still own in Land Operations. To Clayton's point, in the absence of any activity, which we have typically not guided to because we acknowledge it's episodic, you should or could expect a modest loss in the Land Operations division. We do also have some offsetting revenue. we do also have some offsetting revenue We've got some land leases in some of the non-core assets that we still own in Land Operations. we've got some land leases in some of the non-core assets that we still own in land operations To Clayton's point, in the absence of any activity, which we have typically not guided to because we acknowledge it's episodic, you should or could expect a modest loss in the Land Operations division. to clayton's point in the absence of any activity which we have typically not guided to because we acknowledge it's episodic you should or could expect a modest loss in the land operations division
Speaker 10: Okay. Finally, on the rent spreads, first of all, great to see you guys raising guidance, so I don't want to take away from that. On the new rents, recently they've been slightly negative. The renewals have been positive, which is great. I'm just sort of curious, why would I usually see new rent spreads to be much higher than renewals, and here you guys seem to be trending the reverse. Is there something peculiar about the past number of quarters, the types of deals that have been rolling, or what else is sort of driving this dynamic? Okay. okay Finally, on the rent spreads, first of all, great to see you guys raising guidance, so I don't want to take away from that. finally on the rent spreads first of all great to see you guys raising guidance so i don't want to take away from that On the new rents, recently they've been slightly negative. on the new rents recently they've been slightly negative The renewals have been positive, which is great. the renewals have been positive which is great I'm just sort of curious, why would I usually see new rent spreads to be much higher than renewals, and here you guys seem to be trending the reverse. i'm just sort of curious why would i usually see new rent spreads to be much higher than renewals and here you guys seem to be trending the reverse Is there something peculiar about the past number of quarters, the types of deals that have been rolling, or what else is sort of driving this dynamic? is there something peculiar about the past number of quarters the types of deals that have been rolling or what else is sort of driving this dynamic
Speaker 2: I'll start first with just what happened in Q3, Alex. I think it's sort of a similar dynamic for prior quarters where, in some cases, and it certainly was this past quarter, we have one tenant that sort of disproportionately impacted our numbers. I'll start first with just what happened in Q3, Alex. i'll start first with just what happened in q3 alex I think it's sort of a similar dynamic for prior quarters where, in some cases, and it certainly was this past quarter, we have one tenant that sort of disproportionately impacted our numbers. i think it's sort of a similar dynamic for prior quarters where in some cases and it certainly was this past quarter we have one tenant that sort of disproportionately impacted our numbers
Speaker 10: Yeah, you guys have talked about the Sam's. Yeah, you guys have talked about the Sam's. yeah you guys have talked about the sam's
Speaker 2: Yeah. In this case, it was one tenant in Kailua, and we had basically moved the use from a residential brokerage operation to a Pilates studio. That deal was more about the fact that the prior tenant was above market than it was that the new tenant was below market. Just for context, we're talking about a 2,000 square foot space, and the absolute dollar impact was about $33,000 of ABR. At least from our perspective, it was more just a deal as opposed to anything that's reflective of the portfolio as a whole. Yeah. yeah In this case, it was one tenant in Kailua, and we had basically moved the use from a residential brokerage operation to a Pilates studio. in this case it was one tenant in kailua and we had basically moved the use from a residential brokerage operation to a pilates studio That deal was more about the fact that the prior tenant was above market than it was that the new tenant was below market. that deal was more about the fact that the prior tenant was above market than it was that the new tenant was below market Just for context, we're talking about a 2,000 square foot space, and the absolute dollar impact was about $33,000 of ABR. just for context we're talking about a 2,000 square foot space and the absolute dollar impact was about $33,000 of abr At least from our perspective, it was more just a deal as opposed to anything that's reflective of the portfolio as a whole. at least from our perspective it was more just a deal as opposed to anything that's reflective of the portfolio as a whole
Speaker 10: Okay. Yeah. No, I mean, when you look at the volume, it's pretty clear the new deals are very, it's a very small sample set versus the renewals are more robust, which is why I asked if it was just the peculiarities of what it was. That's helpful. Anyway, listen, thank you. Okay. okay Yeah. yeah No, I mean, when you look at the volume, it's pretty clear the new deals are very, it's a very small sample set versus the renewals are more robust, which is why I asked if it was just the peculiarities of what it was. no i mean when you look at the volume it's pretty clear the new deals are very it's a very small sample set versus the renewals are more robust which is why i asked if it was just the peculiarities of what it was That's helpful. that's helpful Anyway, listen, thank you. anyway listen thank you
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, Alex. Okay, thanks, Alex. okay thanks alex
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Speaker 4: Thank you. Do you guys have the same-store number if you remove that one-time item in the prior? I think you have one-time reimbursement. If you remove that, where would your same-store have been for the quarter? Thank you. thank you Do you guys have the same-store number if you remove that one-time item in the prior? do you guys have the same-store number if you remove that one-time item in the prior I think you have one-time reimbursement. i think you have one-time reimbursement If you remove that, where would your same-store have been for the quarter? if you remove that where would your same-store have been for the quarter
Speaker 1: Hi, Mitch. Clayton. I'll take that one, and Kit can chime in to the extent it needs more elaboration. Our same-store NOI growth was impacted by a couple key factors, one of which was the one-time item related to bad debt. We also had a couple non-recurring items related to real property tax that really pertained to Q3 of last year. If you were to take those into account, as well as some move-outs, we actually quantified that to be about 370 basis points collectively. That would have got you more in line with what we were experiencing, same-store NOI growth for the first half of the year. Three main factors, just to recap: it's the bad debt, there were the real property tax one-time items that related to last year, and then we had known move-outs that happened. Hi, Mitch. hi mitch Clayton. clayton I'll take that one, and Kit can chime in to the extent it needs more elaboration. i'll take that one and kit can chime in to the extent it needs more elaboration Our same-store NOI growth was impacted by a couple key factors, one of which was the one-time item related to bad debt. our same-store noi growth was impacted by a couple key factors one of which was the one-time item related to bad debt We also had a couple non-recurring items related to real property tax that really pertained to Q3 of last year. we also had a couple non-recurring items related to real property tax that really pertained to q3 of last year If you were to take those into account, as well as some move-outs, we actually quantified that to be about 370 basis points collectively. if you were to take those into account as well as some move-outs we actually quantified that to be about 370 basis points collectively That would have got you more in line with what we were experiencing, same-store NOI growth for the first half of the year. that would have got you more in line with what we were experiencing same-store noi growth for the first half of the year Three main factors, just to recap: it's the bad debt, there were the real property tax one-time items that related to last year, and then we had known move-outs that happened. three main factors just to recap it's the bad debt there were the real property tax one-time items that related to last year and then we had known move-outs that happened That was economic in Q3 of last year, but not this year. That was economic in Q3 of last year, but not this year. that was economic in q3 of last year but not this year
Speaker 4: Right. I think that's perfect. Right. right I think that's perfect. i think that's perfect
Speaker 8: Thank you. I just wanted to add also, I think it's important to note that those known move-outs, all of them have been backfilled. They're not all economic yet, but they will all be economic in Q1. The final one is the Komohana ground lease that we are now converting to a new build and space lease property. Thank you. thank you i I just wanted to add also, I think it's important to note that those known move-outs, all of them have been backfilled. thank you i just wanted to add also i think it's important to note that those known move-outs all of them have been backfilled They're not all economic yet, but they will all be economic in Q1. they're not all economic yet but they will all be economic in q1 The final one is the Komohana ground lease that we are now converting to a new build and space lease property. the final one is the komohana ground lease that we are now converting to a new build and space lease property
Speaker 4: Perfect. Lance, you seem pretty bullish about acquisition prospects. It seems like that tone has continued. I'm curious about the competitive landscape. Are you seeing a lot of that private capital back now that the lending markets appear to be a little bit more efficient currently? Perfect. perfect Lance, you seem pretty bullish about acquisition prospects. lance you seem pretty bullish about acquisition prospects It seems like that tone has continued. it seems like that tone has continued I'm curious about the competitive landscape. i'm curious about the competitive landscape Are you seeing a lot of that private capital back now that the lending markets appear to be a little bit more efficient currently? are you seeing a lot of that private capital back now that the lending markets appear to be a little bit more efficient currently
Speaker 2: We've talked in the past, Mitch, just about the typical construct of the competitive market that we play in, where typically lower-priced assets from just a dollar standpoint, we're usually competing with local buyers, sometimes smaller family offices here. When we get into larger assets, typically $100 million+, you'll start to see mainland capital, whether it's on the private side. Rarely we'll see any public. We don't have too many REITs in our asset classes. That middle space is where we tend to see less competition from the extremes. Specifically to what we're seeing in the market, look, we're just really sort of seeing it open up. I referenced a few portfolios. There are two retail portfolios that are currently being marketed. There's an industrial portfolio that's currently being marketed. Portfolios in scale typically are larger and more expensive. We've talked in the past, Mitch, just about the typical construct of the competitive market that we play in, where typically lower-priced assets from just a dollar standpoint, we're usually competing with local buyers, sometimes smaller family offices here. we've talked in the past mitch just about the typical construct of the competitive market that we play in where typically lower-priced assets from just a dollar standpoint we're usually competing with local buyers sometimes smaller family offices here When we get into larger assets, typically $100 million+ , you'll start to see mainland capital, whether it's on the private side. when we get into larger assets typically $100 million+ you'll start to see mainland capital whether it's on the private side Rarely we'll see any public. rarely we'll see any public We don't have too many REITs in our asset classes. we don't have too many reits in our asset classes That middle space is where we tend to see less competition from the extremes. that middle space is where we tend to see less competition from the extremes Specifically to what we're seeing in the market, look, we're just really sort of seeing it open up. specifically to what we're seeing in the market look we're just really sort of seeing it open up I referenced a few portfolios. i referenced a few portfolios There are two retail portfolios that are currently being marketed. there are two retail portfolios that are currently being marketed There's an industrial portfolio that's currently being marketed. there's an industrial portfolio that's currently being marketed Portfolios in scale typically are larger and more expensive. portfolios in scale typically are larger and more expensive We are seeing some mainland capital explore the marketplace, sort of typical in terms of the types of people that we compete with. Usually where we have the competitive edge against buyers like that is the fact that we're here, we're local, and we know the assets typically better than mainland buyers. We're optimistic that we'll be able to make some of these or other opportunities that we're looking at work. Obviously, at the end of the day, it's going to be subject to pricing. Hopefully, that gives you just some color in terms of what we're seeing in real time. We are seeing some mainland capital explore the marketplace, sort of typical in terms of the types of people that we compete with. we are seeing some mainland capital explore the marketplace sort of typical in terms of the types of people that we compete with Usually where we have the competitive edge against buyers like that is the fact that we're here, we're local, and we know the assets typically better than mainland buyers. usually where we have the competitive edge against buyers like that is the fact that we're here we're local and we know the assets typically better than mainland buyers We're optimistic that we'll be able to make some of these or other opportunities that we're looking at work. we're optimistic that we'll be able to make some of these or other opportunities that we're looking at work Obviously, at the end of the day, it's going to be subject to pricing. obviously at the end of the day it's going to be subject to pricing Hopefully, that gives you just some color in terms of what we're seeing in real time. hopefully that gives you just some color in terms of what we're seeing in real time
Speaker 4: Perfect. Thank you, guys. Perfect. perfect Thank you, guys. thank you guys
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Speaker 5: Great. Hey, Lance. Hey, Clay. Appreciate you taking my questions here. Just wanted to start off looking at the ground lease portfolio, the 36-acre industrial space. I know that that was up for renewal, I think, this year. Just curious if you can provide color on how we can think about the renewal process there. I think I noticed in some marketing materials that you're considering developing that internally. I think it's the heartyard. Just curious as to how we can think about that asset. Great. great Hey, Lance. hey lance Hey, Clay. hey clay Appreciate you taking my questions here. appreciate you taking my questions here Just wanted to start off looking at the ground lease portfolio, the 36-acre industrial space. just wanted to start off looking at the ground lease portfolio the 36-acre industrial space I know that that was up for renewal, I think, this year. i know that that was up for renewal i think this year Just curious if you can provide color on how we can think about the renewal process there. just curious if you can provide color on how we can think about the renewal process there I think I noticed in some marketing materials that you're considering developing that internally. i think i noticed in some marketing materials that you're considering developing that internally I think it's the heartyard. i think it's the heartyard Just curious as to how we can think about that asset. just curious as to how we can think about that asset
Speaker 2: Hey, Brendan. It's Lance. We've talked about the likelihood of that ground lease renewing. We still have that perspective. I think it's highly likely that we end up renewing the tenant there. We are in early discussions despite the fact that it does naturally expire at the end of this year. It's premature to provide any color in terms of where we think that ends up. Longer term, we have been articulating just the internal growth path that we have as a result of our land inventory. Some of it is currently ready to build in Maui Business Park. Others in Kapolei, like this 36 acres, is currently under covered ground leases. We're getting active income while we can plan. That's really more sort of longer-term value creation once we get through the renewal process. That probably takes us out a few more years before we go active on that. Hey, Brendan. hey brendan It's Lance. it's lance We've talked about the likelihood of that ground lease renewing. we've talked about the likelihood of that ground lease renewing We still have that perspective. we still have that perspective I think it's highly likely that we end up renewing the tenant there. i think it's highly likely that we end up renewing the tenant there We are in early discussions despite the fact that it does naturally expire at the end of this year. we are in early discussions despite the fact that it does naturally expire at the end of this year It's premature to provide any color in terms of where we think that ends up. it's premature to provide any color in terms of where we think that ends up Longer term, we have been articulating just the internal growth path that we have as a result of our land inventory. longer term we have been articulating just the internal growth path that we have as a result of our land inventory Some of it is currently ready to build in Maui Business Park. some of it is currently ready to build in maui business park Others in Kapolei, like this 36 acres, is currently under covered ground leases. others in kapolei like this 36 acres is currently under covered ground leases We're getting active income while we can plan. we're getting active income while we can plan That's really more sort of longer-term value creation once we get through the renewal process. that's really more sort of longer-term value creation once we get through the renewal process That probably takes us out a few more years before we go active on that. that probably takes us out a few more years before we go active on that
Speaker 5: That makes sense. Any detail on the potential ABR step-up opportunity there with the renewal? That makes sense. that makes sense Any detail on the potential ABR step-up opportunity there with the renewal? any detail on the potential abr step-up opportunity there with the renewal
Speaker 2: Just because this is sort of live, probably inappropriate and premature for us to discuss, but hopefully by our next call, we'll have more insight in how that kind of played out. Just because this is sort of live, probably inappropriate and premature for us to discuss, but hopefully by our next call, we'll have more insight in how that kind of played out. just because this is sort of live probably inappropriate and premature for us to discuss but hopefully by our next call we'll have more insight in how that kind of played out
Speaker 5: That makes sense. Understood. Looking at capital allocation, I know you discussed a favorable outlook, improving outlook on the deal market. You have these internal development opportunities. How can we kind of think about share buybacks? I know we discussed this on a previous call, but considering where their share prices are, are share buybacks something that you're increasingly looking into? That makes sense. that makes sense Understood. understood Looking at capital allocation, I know you discussed a favorable outlook, improving outlook on the deal market. looking at capital allocation i know you discussed a favorable outlook improving outlook on the deal market You have these internal development opportunities. you have these internal development opportunities How can we kind of think about share buybacks? how can we kind of think about share buybacks I know we discussed this on a previous call, but considering where their share prices are, are share buybacks something that you're increasingly looking into? i know we discussed this on a previous call but considering where their share prices are are share buybacks something that you're increasingly looking into
Speaker 1: I'll take that. Hey, Brendan, Clayton. With respect to the share repurchases, we do have a program that is in effect and that is one of the tools that we have in our capital allocation toolkit. Obviously, as the stock price fluctuates, that does weigh into our consideration. At the end of the day, we kind of look at capital allocation just from a risk-adjusted return perspective. That would entail whether it's placing capital for acquisitions, for internal development opportunities, as well as share repurchases. We are considering that, and we'll make decisions according to the opportunities that are in front of us. I'll take that. i'll take that Hey, Brendan, Clayton. hey brendan clayton With respect to the share repurchases, we do have a program that is in effect and that is one of the tools that we have in our capital allocation toolkit. with respect to the share repurchases we do have a program that is in effect and that is one of the tools that we have in our capital allocation toolkit Obviously, as the stock price fluctuates, that does weigh into our consideration. obviously as the stock price fluctuates that does weigh into our consideration At the end of the day, we kind of look at capital allocation just from a risk-adjusted return perspective. at the end of the day we kind of look at capital allocation just from a risk-adjusted return perspective That would entail whether it's placing capital for acquisitions, for internal development opportunities, as well as share repurchases. that would entail whether it's placing capital for acquisitions for internal development opportunities as well as share repurchases We are considering that, and we'll make decisions according to the opportunities that are in front of us. we are considering that and we'll make decisions according to the opportunities that are in front of us
Speaker 5: Got it. Thanks, Clayton. Thanks, Lance. That's all for me. Got it. got it Thanks, Clayton. thanks clayton Thanks, Lance. thanks lance That's all for me. that's all for me
Speaker 1: Thanks, Brandon. Thanks, Brandon. thanks brandon
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Speaker 7: Thank you. I wanted to ask you on the portfolios that you discussed. I think you said two retail and one industrial. Can you provide some color on what kind of pricing and cap rates you are seeing on those portfolios? Just to clarify, are those portfolios you are looking at for your own acquisition, or are they being marketed for sale in the transaction market? Thank you. thank you I wanted to ask you on the portfolios that you discussed. i wanted to ask you on the portfolios that you discussed I think you said two retail and one industrial. i think you said two retail and one industrial Can you provide some color on what kind of pricing and cap rates you are seeing on those portfolios? can you provide some color on what kind of pricing and cap rates you are seeing on those portfolios Just to clarify, are those portfolios you are looking at for your own acquisition, or are they being marketed for sale in the transaction market? just to clarify are those portfolios you are looking at for your own acquisition or are they being marketed for sale in the transaction market
Speaker 2: Hey, Gaurav. It's Lance. Just because these are live deals, I'm not sure it would be appropriate for me to talk about our perspective on cap rates. To the second part of your question, before I provide a little bit more detail, I would say, look, we look at every opportunity that comes into the market. We typically don't talk about deals that we're actively pursuing or actively considering until we get further along in the process, typically after we close. That all said, our perspective on the market in general is sort of holding from where we were last quarter. I would say expected pricing in the market, call it 5%-6% cap type deals in general. You may see flex on either side of that, depending on the type of asset we're looking at, depending on the quality of the property that it may be. Hey, Gaurav. hey gaurav It's Lance. it's lance Just because these are live deals, I'm not sure it would be appropriate for me to talk about our perspective on cap rates. just because these are live deals i'm not sure it would be appropriate for me to talk about our perspective on cap rates To the second part of your question, before I provide a little bit more detail, I would say, look, we look at every opportunity that comes into the market. to the second part of your question before i provide a little bit more detail i would say look we look at every opportunity that comes into the market We typically don't talk about deals that we're actively pursuing or actively considering until we get further along in the process, typically after we close. we typically don't talk about deals that we're actively pursuing or actively considering until we get further along in the process typically after we close That all said, our perspective on the market in general is sort of holding from where we were last quarter. that all said our perspective on the market in general is sort of holding from where we were last quarter I would say expected pricing in the market, call it 5%- 6% cap type deals in general. i would say expected pricing in the market call it 5%- 6% cap type deals in general You may see flex on either side of that, depending on the type of asset we're looking at, depending on the quality of the property that it may be. you may see flex on either side of that depending on the type of asset we're looking at depending on the quality of the property that it may be Value-add type deals, for example, you would expect to see some expansion on that cap rate. Ground leases, you would expect to see some compression on those cap rates. In general, that's sort of our perspective of where the market is today. Value-add type deals, for example, you would expect to see some expansion on that cap rate. value-add type deals for example you would expect to see some expansion on that cap rate Ground leases, you would expect to see some compression on those cap rates. ground leases you would expect to see some compression on those cap rates In general, that's sort of our perspective of where the market is today. in general that's sort of our perspective of where the market is today
Speaker 7: Okay. Second question I want to ask you on your office portfolio. The office property Lono Center, I noticed the occupancy on that property is 37%. I just want to get some color on that property. Generally, what you're thinking about your office portfolio, is that something you want to hold or is that something you want to recycle at some point? Okay. okay Second question I want to ask you on your office portfolio. second question i want to ask you on your office portfolio The office property Lono Center, I noticed the occupancy on that property is 37%. the office property lono center i noticed the occupancy on that property is 37% I just want to get some color on that property. i just want to get some color on that property Generally, what you're thinking about your office portfolio, is that something you want to hold or is that something you want to recycle at some point? generally what you're thinking about your office portfolio is that something you want to hold or is that something you want to recycle at some point
Speaker 2: Lono Center is actually one of two office buildings that sits on a 19-acre block that we own in Kahului on Maui. We purposefully were driving occupancy away from that building into our Kahului office building. The thinking was that could have been an individual disposition, maybe even an owner-user type sale. We do have that 19-acre block currently on the market. We have it listed for sale. We've been in discussions with a buyer. I think we may have disclosed that last quarter. We are actively looking to dispose of what we've talked about in the past, again, as non-strategic asset class for us, recycling that capital into more strategic investments. As we sort of head into the end of the year, we can probably provide a little bit more color in terms of where that process stands. Lono Center is actually one of two office buildings that sits on a 19-acre block that we own in Kahului on Maui. lono center is actually one of two office buildings that sits on a 19-acre block that we own in kahului on maui We purposefully were driving occupancy away from that building into our Kahului office building. we purposefully were driving occupancy away from that building into our kahului office building The thinking was that could have been an individual disposition, maybe even an owner-user type sale. the thinking was that could have been an individual disposition maybe even an owner-user type sale We do have that 19-acre block currently on the market. we do have that 19-acre block currently on the market We have it listed for sale. we have it listed for sale We've been in discussions with a buyer. we've been in discussions with a buyer I think we may have disclosed that last quarter. i think we may have disclosed that last quarter We are actively looking to dispose of what we've talked about in the past, again, as non-strategic asset class for us, recycling that capital into more strategic investments. we are actively looking to dispose of what we've talked about in the past again as non-strategic asset class for us recycling that capital into more strategic investments As we sort of head into the end of the year, we can probably provide a little bit more color in terms of where that process stands. as we sort of head into the end of the year we can probably provide a little bit more color in terms of where that process stands
Speaker 7: Okay, thank you. That's all I had. Okay, thank you. okay thank you That's all I had. that's all i had
Speaker 6: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Clayton Chun. Please continue. There are no further questions at this time. there are no further questions at this time I will now turn the call over to Clayton Chun. i will now turn the call over to clayton chun Please continue. please continue
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