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ADAMAS TRUST, INC. — Call Transcript 2026
Feb 19, 2026
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the AdamasTrust Fourth Quarter 2025 Results Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, the conference will be open for questions. If you have a question, please press the star followed by one one on your touchtone phone. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star one one again. If you are using speaker equipment, we do ask that you please lift your handset before making selection. This conference is being recorded on Thursday, February 19th, 2026. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kristi Mussallem, Investor Relations. Ma'am, please go ahead. Good morning, and welcome to the fourth quarter 2025 earnings call for Adamas Trust. A press release and supplemental financial presentation with Adamas Trust's fourth quarter 2025 results was released yesterday. Both the press release and supplemental financial presentation are available on the company's website at www.adamasreit.com. Additionally, we are hosting a live webcast of today's call, which you can access in the Events and Presentation section of the company's website. At this time, management would like me to inform you that certain statements made during the conference call, which are not historical, may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although Adamas Trust believes the expectations reflected in any forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, it can give no assurance that its expectations will be attained. Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are detailed in yesterday's press release and from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Now, at this time, I would like to introduce Jason Serrano, Chief Executive Officer. Jason, please go ahead. Hello. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our 2025 fourth quarter results. With me this morning is Nick Mah, President, and Kristine Nario, our CFO. We are excited about entering a new year, as 2025 represented a strategic inflection point for the company, characterized by significant balance sheet growth, accelerating profitability, and a strategic expansion into Constructive, a leading business purpose loan originator. We exited 2025 stronger and larger than at any point in our history. The transformation of Adamas over the past year has been deliberate and decisive. We expanded scale, materially enhanced recurring earnings power, strengthened the balance sheet, and positioned the company for durable long-term growth. Our Q4 results are another validation to our strategy, which reinforce our confidence in the trajectory ahead. Salient 2025 company performance highlights include $3.1 billion investment portfolio expansion, a 44% increase to earnings available for distribution year-over-year, where we generated over $100 million of net income, leading to a 15% increase to our common dividend. All these factors contributed to generating a 36% cumulative total stockholder return, a transformational year where we also grew company book value. We stayed firm with the disciplined capital allocation, active portfolio management, and a clear strategic vision. By meaningfully increasing our allocation to Agency RMBS, we improved liquidity, reduced credit volatility, enhanced financing flexibility, and strengthened the trajectory of earnings. The balance sheet today is materially more resilient than it was a year ago and positioned well for 2026. The addition of a powerful new earnings engine in the full acquisition of Constructive strategically positioned Adamas to benefit from both stable spread income and scalable origination economics, a combination that we believe differentiates our platform. As an update to fourth quarter, GAAP book value and adjusted book value increased by 4.3% and 2.4%, respectively. Continuing the positive momentum we generated throughout the year, quarterly EAAD of $0.23 per share fully covered our dividend, but declined by $0.01 sequentially. This slight reduction from last quarter was anticipated and directly tied to the J-curve effect discussed in our third quarter communication related to the integration of Constructive. Importantly, this temporary negative impact reflects upfront integration and scaling costs, not structural earnings pressure. As we transition from from integration to production, we expect Constructive to be a positive contributor to EAAD in the first quarter. Throughout 2025, we found scaling agency RMBS to be both an attractive investment on an absolute and relative basis, providing mid- to high-teens equity returns. We increased the company's agency RMBS portfolio by $3.4 billion, or to 56% of company capital, from 23% a year earlier, at an attractive average spread to Treasury, interpolated between five to 10-year maturities of 139 basis points. The strategic reallocation of capital throughout the year enhanced liquidity and balance sheet flexibility, also lowered our credit exposure and tail risk, as well as increased visibility into book value performance. Now, against that base, Constructive's DSCR origination platform introduces significant upside potential. As volume scales and efficiencies are realized, we believe the earnings contribution from the DSCR production from both a gain on sale as well as interest income from loans held can expand materially. We are excited to demonstrate the operating leverage embedded within our business model in the new year. Despite the transformation of the company, Adamas shares continue to trade at a substantial discount to intrinsic value. At year-end, the shares traded at a 31% discount to book value. Even more compelling, the market capitalization represents approximately a 14% discount to just the agency capital held on our balance sheet alone. In practical terms, the market in 2025, and continuing in early 2026, is assigning limited to no value to our non-agency and multifamily holdings, our scaled origination platform with an exciting embedded earnings growth track, and our ability to grow book value. We believe the discount creates compelling upside potential as we continue to execute and expand earnings and demonstrate sustained book value creation. We have entered 2026 with strong momentum. In the first quarter, we were off to an exceptional start, as Adjusted Book Value is up between 3%-4%. At the same time, Constructive DSCR originations are beginning to contribute to earnings as expected. As acquisition efficiencies are realized, we see a clear path to expanding EAD in 2026. We are highly encouraged by the early results and increasingly confident in the earnings power of the platform. We approach 2026 with conviction and optimism in the macro backdrop. The progression of the Fed easing cycle, coupled with declining volatility, has created a favorable environment of lower rates and tighter spreads. The current administration's policy focus of improving housing affordability and reducing mortgage rates further reinforces our positive outlook on the residential assets. Our goal is to maintain flexibility, to capitalize emerging opportunities, and to direct capital to the most attractive risk-adjusted returns in the residential mortgage market. Dividend sustainability remains a core priority. In the year, we are focused on balancing competitive yields to expand recurring earnings with robust coverage and long-term capital preservation. We are energized by the opportunity in front of us and confident in our ability to deliver long-term value for our stockholders. At this time, I'll pass the call over to Nick for a market and strategy update. Thank you, Jason. As we close out 2025, we are excited to have delivered significant EAD expansion alongside book value growth. Looking forward, we are confident that our two-pronged approach of investing in Agency RMBS and high-quality residential credit remains the optimal strategy for the current market environment. In the quarter, we deployed $810 million into residential assets, reflecting another period of solid investment activity. Agency RMBS purchases totaled $347 million in the fourth quarter, as tightening spreads moderated the pace of acquisitions. In residential credit, we invested in $276 million of BPL rental loans and $181 million of BPL bridge loans. This marks the first quarter where rental loan purchases exceeded bridge loan purchases, reflecting our deeper utilization of Constructive origination capabilities in rental loans. We anticipate that this trend will continue. Our agency portfolio ended the year at $6.6 billion, doubling in size over the course of 2025, constituting 63% of our investment portfolio and 56% of our equity capital. Agency RMBS now represents our single largest asset exposure. In the fourth quarter, our agency purchases were concentrated entirely in 5% coupon spec pools. We have continued to target low payup spec pools at or slightly under the current coupon, where we see the best balance of positive net interest margin, duration upside, and a more favorable convexity profile. Agency leverage also declined slightly in the quarter, falling to 7.7xfrom 7.8x. The pace of agency acquisitions was tempered by meaningful spread compression during the period. Current coupon Agency spreads tightened by 16 basis points, narrowing from 126 basis points to 110 basis points. Interest rate volatility fell meaningfully in the fourth quarter and has steadily declined since the tariff announcements in April, providing the impetus for tightening spreads in agencies. Despite spreads normalizing toward longer-term averages, we continue to see value in Agency RMBS. Our capital allocation to agencies is expected to grow through 2026 to between 60% and 70% of equity capital. We will adjust the pace and magnitude of future acquisitions opportunistically in response to spread movements and broader market conditions over the course of the year. Our BPL rental portfolio has almost doubled over the course of 2025, growing from $770 million to $1.4 billion. This core strategy has benefited from the integration of Constructive's origination platform alongside our disciplined underwriting standards. Borrower metrics remain strong across the BPL rental portfolio, with a 748 average FICO, 71% average LTV, and 1.36x DSCR. Credit performance has been robust, with delinquencies remaining low at 1.4%, a direct result of our focus on credit quality. In 2025, we completed 4 securitizations across our whole loan portfolio. We continue to aggregate loans to execute securitizations, and we are on pace for executing one BPL rental deal a quarter, targeting a mid- to high-teens levered return. In the fourth quarter, non-QM AAA spreads remained range-bound at around 130 basis points. Into the new year, however, we have seen meaningful spread compression as non-agency AAA spreads have converged towards agency levels, creating a favorable environment for us to grow our BPL rental loan securitization program. We continue to take a selective approach in BPL Bridge, where the portfolio stands at $820 million of UPB, a decline from $1.2 billion at the beginning of the year. The proliferation of revolving securitizations across a myriad of issuers has intensified buyer competition, driving yields tighter. At this juncture, we see more compelling opportunities in agencies and BPL rental, and we expect the size of the BPL Bridge portfolio to decline throughout 2026. Constructive continues to scale successfully, delivering its highest volume quarter of the year in Q4, with $474 million of originations. Constructive originated $1.8 billion worth of loans in 2025, with 93% of those originations in BPL rental, reflecting a strong alignment with our core credit strategy. Origination quality remains robust, with a weighted average FICO of 751 and an average LTV of 74%. After our full acquisition of the platform, Constructive's loan production now matches closely with Adamas's investment criteria. We target strong borrower profiles in the stable segments of the credit spectrum. Beyond disciplined credit underwriting, we have deliberately minimized originations at the margins of securitization and eligibility and shifting institutional buyer mandates, concentrating production where institutional sponsorship and secondary market liquidity are the strongest. Over the past 12 months, new construction loans have represented less than 2%, and multifamily loans have represented less than 5% of Constructive's total origination. We expect Constructive to become a strategic earnings driver and sourcing engine for the firm. In the quarter, Adamas purchased 44% of Constructive's originations, deliberately striking a balance of investment portfolio growth and the cultivation of Constructive's third-party distribution network. Through Constructive, we benefit from a capital-light model that produces both gain on sale revenue and a proprietary investment pipeline. We have the flexibility to direct BPL rental originations to our portfolio or to the secondary markets as conditions warrant, and we expect a broadly balanced allocation between the two in 2026. In multifamily, we had another positive quarter of resolutions at an accelerated 39% annualized payoff rate. Performance has been strong throughout 2025, with only one delinquent and one restructured asset, both unchanged over the course of the year. As the portfolio seasons, we anticipate that the pace of payoffs to be higher than the historical average of 26%, and we will continue to redeploy the proceeds into our higher-yielding core strategies. Our diversified agency and credit portfolio, paired with Constructive's origination capabilities, provide us multiple avenues to grow earnings in this market environment. We are well positioned to extend this momentum in portfolio growth and earnings through 2026. I will now pass the call to Kristine to walk through our financial highlights. Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. For the fourth quarter, we reported GAAP net income attributable to common stockholders of $41.6 million or $0.46 per share, and earnings available for distribution of $0.23 per share, which fully covered our quarterly dividend. After accounting for our $0.23 dividend, we generated a 6.85% economic return on GAAP book value and a 4.62% economic return on adjusted book value. For full year 2025, economic return on GAAP and adjusted book value was 12.72% and 11.1%, respectively. Our quarterly performance benefited from strong investment mark-to-market gains. We saw spread tightening across Agency RMBS and certain portions of our residential loan portfolio, which increased asset valuations and contributed meaningfully to earnings. In addition, gains on our interest rate swaps contributed to our results as swap spreads widened during the quarter. Adjusted net interest income increased to $46.3 million in the fourth quarter from $42.8 million in the third quarter, and net interest spread remained stable at 152 basis points. These results reflect our continued portfolio repositioning toward Agency RMBS and BPL rental loans, while also benefiting from improved financing costs. Partially offsetting the positive valuation impact that I mentioned earlier, we recorded $14.9 million of realized losses, primarily related to discounted payoffs and resolution activity on certain non-performing residential loans and valuation adjustments on foreclosed properties, primarily related to our BPL Bridge portfolio. These actions reflect ongoing active portfolio management and credit resolution efforts, and in most cases, the realized losses had been substantially reflected in prior period marks. Turning to Constructive, the platform continued to demonstrate solid origination momentum during the quarter. Constructive generated $12.5 million in mortgage banking income, driven by higher origination volumes and related origination fees, partially offset by lower valuation on interest rate lock commitments and the prudent increase in loan repurchase reserves. Constructive incurred $4.3 million in direct loan origination costs and $10.2 million in direct G&A expenses, resulting in a $2 million loss for the quarter on a standalone basis. Direct G&A for Constructive increased in line with higher production volumes, the full quarter impact of consolidation, and also continues to include expenses associated with integration. We view these items as part of normal progression of integrating and scaling the platform. Origination activity and pipeline trends remain healthy, and as integration efforts moderate and production continue to grow, we expect a more consistent earnings contribution from Constructive. At acquisition, we estimated Constructive to generate approximately 15% annual equity return, and our current expectations remain aligned with that target. Total consolidated Adamas G&A expenses were $25.1 million for the quarter, up from $23.3 million last quarter, reflecting the full quarter consolidation of Constructive. From a capital markets perspective, we continue to strengthen our balance sheet. During the year, we issued $198 million senior unsecured notes to extend and diversify our funding profile. Subsequent to quarter end, we issued $90 million of 9.25% senior unsecured notes due 2031, and redeem our $100 million, 5.75% senior unsecured notes due 2026 at par, retiring that obligation ahead of its April maturity. As a result, we now have no corporate debt maturities for the next three years. This provides meaningful flexibility and positions us to focus our capital on growing the investment portfolio rather than addressing near-term refinancing needs. At year-end, we maintained $206 million of available cash and approximately $420 million of total liquidity capacity, including financing available on unencumbered and underlevered assets. Our company recourse leverage ratio was 5x, and portfolio recourse leverage ratio was 4.7x, with leverage primarily concentrated in agency financing. Overall, our strategic repositioning has strengthened the durability of our earnings profile and positioned the company for continued growth in recurring income. We remain focused on disciplined execution and delivering sustainable returns for our stockholders. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open it up for questions. Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment while we compile our Q&A roster. Our first question will come from the line of Doug Harter with UBS. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Good morning, it's Marissa Lobel on for Doug today. Thanks for taking my question. On the pace of deployment between Agency MBS and residential loans in 2026, how are you viewing the relative attractiveness of Agency MBS given the significant spread tightening year to date? Yeah, so from a levered return perspective, we do see a higher return on the non-agency credit that we invest in, in particular, BPL rental. So for that particular asset class, we see somewhere in the mid- to high-teens-type levered return, compared to agencies today, somewhere in the mid-teens-type return, on a levered hedge basis. So we are still constructive on both. We still like both asset classes. We like the balance and the diversity that having both on our portfolio gives us. As I mentioned in my earlier remarks, we do expect the agency portfolio to grow. So right now it's at 56% of equity capital. We do expect it to grow into the 60s, assuming market conditions hold. We do think that the agency, the non-agency part of our portfolio will stay about the same, but that's not because we are not increasing our BPL rental exposure. We're gonna continue to increase that, but because BPL Bridge does pay down relatively quickly and we find less opportunity there, that effectively the mix within non-agencies will change, but we expect that the percentages in the non-agency side to remain relatively static. So where does the additional equity capital come from? It comes from the continued resolutions in the multifamily portfolio and other non-core strategies. That's very helpful. Thank you. And looking at the expenses related to the Constructive acquisition, how should we think about the remaining integration costs and the 2026 run rate for operating expenses related to Constructive? We still see in the first quarter, partially some integration costs, you know, with Constructive. It's only been there for about six months. But in terms of G&A ratio, when you think about it, it's gonna be approximately 7%-7.5% of stockholders' equity, and really approximately 44% of that would be attributable to Constructive, with the rest, really, Adamas. And if you think about Constructive, roughly 40% of their G&A is variable and directly tied to origination activity. And this really provides us meaningful expense flexibility as volumes fluctuate. So, as I said, it's about 7% or 7.5% of stockholders' equity would be our run rate. Got it. Thank you. And finally, just on that comment about the gain on sale, change this quarter, reflecting lower, commitment valuations and the increase in loan repurchase reserves, could you expand on that? Are there, you know, what are the implications to the valuation of loans on balance sheet? We don't-- Yeah, we think it is transitional. Let's talk about the interest rate lock commit, interest rate lock valuation. It was really primarily driven by a smaller pipeline compared to last quarter and modestly lower pull-through rate, reflecting pricing conditions during the period. These changes are consistent with kind of normal quarter-to-quarter market fluctuations, and we continue to actively monitor and manage the pipeline and align it with current market conditions. In terms of repurchase reserves, we think it was prudent to increase the repurchase reserves, and it is really tied into our purchase of the 50% interest into Constructive, and Nick can go into a little bit more detail. Yeah, we effectively coordinated the magnitude and timing of some of these repurchases and the corresponding reserves, with, in collaboration with our former equity partner in the Constructive business. And primarily, these actions were executed in the fourth quarter to take advantage of, you know, provisions and indemnities that were provided as part of the Constructive purchase transaction. We don't see the repurchase loan loss reserves as an extrapolation of higher loss trends or credit concerns for 2026. We feel very comfortable with the credit underwriting that we currently have in Constructive. Got it. Thank you very much. Thanks for taking my questions. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Bose George with KBW. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Thanks. It's actually Frank Libetti on for Bose. Good morning, guys. I want to start with discussing about the balancing between capital, capital deployment, between scale and Constructive originations versus increasing agency deployment or share repurchases. Then is there like, a preferred return threshold guiding that allocation going forward? Thanks. Yeah, thank you for the question. So, ultimately, you know, we're focusing on mid- to high-teens returns on a risk-adjusted basis throughout the different avenues which we deploy capital into. You know, the interchange of that, you know, does change per quarter based on what, you know, what's available in the market and, you know, different underwriting trends that we're seeing. Going back to Constructive, we see it as more of a capital-light model given their wholesale origination business. You know, Nick mentioned earlier that we're focused on both, you know, gain on sale through selling to third parties, as well as holding on balance sheet for our origination activity, securitization activity, which we expect one securitization a month in this space. But we don't expect to have, you know, a significant increase of capital allocation towards that strategy, even with origination volumes that were to grow. That was one of the primary focuses that we looked at, Constructive many years ago, and you know, why we were excited about their business model. It provides for flexibility on the capital side, you know, keeping it flat with origination trends going up or down. So we think it'll be consistent kind of capital allocation there. And then the trends of looking at different asset classes, again, it's really, you know, we're Nick mentioned a target of 60% on agencies, and that's just looking at where we see value in today's market, the interchange between BPL Bridge and rental. The fact that BPL Bridge, we think will be reduced on our balance sheet just due to payoffs that are happening there and a lack of opportunity that we're seeing. And on the rental side, you know, continuing to support efforts there from Constructive and seeing value in that space. So ultimately, you know, it really depends what the market's giving us, and we're gonna make the prudent, you know, capital allocations accordingly. One follow-on comment on Constructive. So we're still in the process of transition, and there are still things that we can do to more to increase volume and increase efficiencies and reduce costs that does not require capital. Like, for example, getting them better better financing lines with better terms, whether it's, you know, providing our captive capital to reduce the time the warehouse time that they have their their loans under. So there's things that we can do that doesn't necessarily require additional capital, and we're actually focused on those things first before planning to put additional capital in. Great. That's, that's very helpful. And then sticking on Constructive, you just talk about the competition in the business purpose lending channel. You know, demand for the product is clearly very strong. Are you seeing any new entrants in the space and any pressure on margins there? Yeah, on the competition in DSCR loans in particular, yes, this is a space that Constructive has been in for a while, so we have seen the ebbs and flows in terms of competition. Obviously, at this juncture, it is a relatively competitive business. There's also very strong demand for loans from institutional buyers across both non-QM as well as BPL rental/DSCR. So, there's fortunately a strong demand there from... In terms of comp, and therefore originators have tried to grow in that particular space. I think from our perspective, Constructive has always been a top-tier player. They have very long-term relationships. They're navigating the competition very well. And I think one of the things that we are, we are seeing is some of the larger non-QM originators having a higher percentage allocation of originations into BPL rental. That is a trend that we think will continue. In some cases, we have also or Constructive has partnered with some of these larger entities to grow volume as well. So the market continues to evolve and change. Fortunately, there's strong demand, but the competition is something that we have been we've been mindful of and navigating very well. Great. Thank you. Just one more if I can. Did you guys provide an update on book value quarter to date? Yeah. So in Jason's remarks, he mentioned that adjusted book value is up somewhere between 3%-4%, thus far quarter to date. Okay, great. Thank you, guys. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Erdner with Jones Trading. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. You know, there's been a lot of talk about institutionals, or I guess, institutions being banned kind of from that rental space. Could you talk about just the profile of borrower that you guys have? You know, and if that were to occur, what impact it would have? Sure. Well, we think that if this policy ultimately goes through, that it will be positive for Constructive's business. So Constructive originates loans really to individual investors, not to institutional investors. Every single one of Constructive's borrowers of loans originated in 2025 owns less than 80 single-family properties, and the average is significantly lower than that. So, and institutional investors own SFR properties by the thousands. So we don't have a lot of details yet, but in the White House executive order, the policy is really looking to limit purchases, and I quote, "From, you know, Wall Street investors and large institutional investors." So the definitions of which are forthcoming, but these are not necessarily descriptors of Constructive's client base. So, you know, that overall, I think that if there was a ban on institutions owning SFR, it would be positive for Constructive. It should increase the supply of homes and transactions, and reduce the demand for homes that our borrowers target. Got it. Got it. That's helpful. And then apologies if I missed this on the last question, but, could you kind of talk about share repurchases, you know, if you did any during the quarter? I don't think you did, and how you're viewing that going forward. Yeah, so, you know, the way we look at share repurchases is, you know, just as a different capital allocation relative to the opportunities we see in the market as a whole. We did not repurchase shares in the quarter, in the fourth quarter. We do look at, you know, where our price to book is, and the creative value of actually utilizing capital for that. You know, in share repurchases, it, you know, it's a permanent capital reduction, you know, in retiring those shares. We don't get the ability to hold in treasury and try to issue later. So, you know, what we have to do is just -- we focus on whether or not, you know, the capital that we have allocated to and budgeted for our investment programs, you know, is accretive relative to, you know, using that capital and permanent deletion of that capital related to those share repurchases. So it's something that we consistently look at, and we monitor, we throw in our models as it relates to core capital allocations, and, you know, we will continue doing that. You know, we have, in previous quarters, repurchased shares as the market, you know, provided some opportunities there, and we'll continue to look at that going forward. Got it. That, that's helpful. Last one for me. How are you guys looking at agency leverage, given that, you know, we've kind of moved into a tighter spread range? Obviously, there's the GSE backstop, you know, I guess with their loan purchases. Just how are you guys thinking about leverage? Yeah, so in the quarter, leverage declined slightly. Right now, it's about 7.7x. Historically, we have run leverage up into, you know, 8x-8.5x leverage. For now, we are probably going to be trending on the lower end, so closer to the 7.7x, but depending on market conditions, we could go higher. Great. Thank you, guys. Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Our next question will be from the line of Timothy D'Agostino with Equity Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Yeah, I thank you for taking the question. Good morning. With the comments on, you know, 60%-70% of equity capital being agency and, you know, potentially seeing a decline in BPL bridge in 2026, I was just wondering, the total investment portfolio size currently is at $10.5 billion. Do you have, like, a target size you or a goal you're, you're trying to reach? Or do you have any near-term, like, percentage increases? Just thinking about, you know, what you're striving for in terms of a total portfolio size, maybe at the end of 2026 or at the end of 2027. Thank you. Yeah. So the goal is to maximize, you know, our total return within our portfolio. I mean, that's the core. That's where we start with looking at capital allocation. So in doing so, you know, when the market has different moves and whether it's on credit or an agency, we will look to change our capital allocation relative to those two different asset classes. So there is not a target that we, you know, are focused on reaching as a sense of just reaching a target versus maximizing, you know, our recurring earnings that we have in our portfolio. The comments that Nick made earlier on, you know, the targets around 60% is based on what we see the market giving us today and the different roll-offs of non-core strategies we have in our balance sheet. So, yeah, we, we don't, we don't have a, you know, a capital allocation model that focuses on either investment portfolio size or a certain percent that we need to be in either strategy. It's really where we see the best risk-adjusted returns in the market and how to maximize, you know, our earnings potential. Okay, great. Thank you so much. And then just as a second question, regarding available cash, you know, you've probably averaged maybe around, like, $170 million over the trailing five quarters, and obviously, at the year-end, you have $206 million available cash. I guess, could you just provide maybe an overview of how you plan to allocate that cash, whether you wanna continue to hold the stockpile, if you're just seeing kind of rotation capital? I guess just any sort of color on the available cash at year-end would be great, and how you plan to use it. Thank you. Yeah. You know, we, as the agency strategy and spreads tightened into year-end, you know, we -- it did take away some of our expectations of what we could grow our portfolio in the beginning of that quarter. So we ended up the quarter with a little bit more cash than we would have expected, which is partially the reason, or the reason why we ended up maturing our 5.75 note due April 2026. And we just saw an opportunity there, given the cash allocation that we had, and the fact that there was a near-term maturity coming up and utilize the capital in that way. But I think overall, you know, the opportunity for us is, you know, continued deployment in the two areas. We talked about a capital-light model on the Constructive side and then looking for opportunities within Agency. So, you know, to the extent that the, you know, the market, you know, winds down on the Agency side, we expect to have further deployment there, and looking for more opportunistic trades in the market as a whole, versus, you know, kind of a scheduled deployment. Okay, got it. Thank you for taking the questions today. Thank you, and one moment for our next question. I am showing no further questions at this time, and I would now like to hand the conference back over to Jason Serrano for closing remarks. Yes, we appreciate your continued support and look forward to discussing our first quarter results in April. Have a great day. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.
Speaker 8: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the AdamasTrust Fourth Quarter 2025 Results Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, the conference will be open for questions. If you have a question, please press the star followed by one one on your touchtone phone. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star one one again. If you are using speaker equipment, we do ask that you please lift your handset before making selection. This conference is being recorded on Thursday, February 19th, 2026. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kristi Mussallem, Investor Relations. Ma'am, please go ahead. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. good morning ladies and gentlemen and thank you for standing by Wel come to the Adamas Trust Fourth Quarter 2025 Results Conference Call. wel come to the adamas trust fourth quarter 2025 results conference call During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. during today's presentation all parties will be in a listen-only mode Following the presentation, the conference will be open for questions. following the presentation the conference will be open for questions If you have a question, please press the star followed by one one on your touchtone phone. if you have a question please press the star followed by one one on your touchtone phone If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star one one again. if you would like to withdraw your question please press star one one again If you are using speaker equipment, we do ask that you please lift your handset before making selection. if you are using speaker equipment we do ask that you please lift your handset before making selection This conference is being recorded on Thursday, February 19th, 2026. this conference is being recorded on thursday february 19th 2026 I would now like to turn the conference over to Kristi Mussallem, Investor Relations. i would now like to turn the conference over to kristi mussallem investor relations Ma'am, please go ahead. ma'am please go ahead
Speaker 3: Good morning, and welcome to the fourth quarter 2025 earnings call for Adamas Trust. A press release and supplemental financial presentation with Adamas Trust's fourth quarter 2025 results was released yesterday. Both the press release and supplemental financial presentation are available on the company's website at www.adamasreit.com. Additionally, we are hosting a live webcast of today's call, which you can access in the Events and Presentation section of the company's website. At this time, management would like me to inform you that certain statements made during the conference call, which are not historical, may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although Adamas Trust believes the expectations reflected in any forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, it can give no assurance that its expectations will be attained. Good morning, and welcome to the fourth quarter 2025 earnings call for Adamas Trust. good morning and welcome to the fourth quarter 2025 earnings call for adamas trust A press release and supplemental financial presentation with Adamas Trust's fourth quarter 2025 results was released yesterday. a press release and supplemental financial presentation with adamas trust's fourth quarter 2025 results was released yesterday Both the press release and supplemental financial presentation are available on the company's website at www.adamasreit.com. both the press release and supplemental financial presentation are available on the company's website at www.adamasreit.com Additionally, we are hosting a live webcast of today's call, which you can access in the Events and Presentation section of the company's website. additionally we are hosting a live webcast of today's call which you can access in the events and presentation section of the company's website At this time, management would like me to inform you that certain statements made during the conference call, which are not historical, may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. at this time management would like me to inform you that certain statements made during the conference call which are not historical may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the private securities litigation reform act of 1995 Although Adamas Trust believes the expectations reflected in any forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, it can give no assurance that its expectations will be attained. although adamas trust believes the expectations reflected in any forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions it can give no assurance that its expectations will be attained Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are detailed in yesterday's press release and from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Now, at this time, I would like to introduce Jason Serrano, Chief Executive Officer. Jason, please go ahead. Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are detailed in yesterday's press release and from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are detailed in yesterday's press release and from time to time in the company's filings with the securities and exchange commission Now, at this time, I would like to introduce Jason Serrano, Chief Executive Officer. now at this time i would like to introduce jason serrano chief executive officer Jason, please go ahead. jason please go ahead
Speaker 2: Hello. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our 2025 fourth quarter results. With me this morning is Nick Mah, President, and Kristine Nario, our CFO. We are excited about entering a new year, as 2025 represented a strategic inflection point for the company, characterized by significant balance sheet growth, accelerating profitability, and a strategic expansion into Constructive, a leading business purpose loan originator. We exited 2025 stronger and larger than at any point in our history. The transformation of Adamas over the past year has been deliberate and decisive. We expanded scale, materially enhanced recurring earnings power, strengthened the balance sheet, and positioned the company for durable long-term growth. Our Q4 results are another validation to our strategy, which reinforce our confidence in the trajectory ahead. Hello. hello Thank you for joining us today to discuss our 2025 fourth quarter results. thank you for joining us today to discuss our 2025 fourth quarter results With me this morning is Nick Mah, President, and Kristine Nario, our CFO. with me this morning is nick mah president and kristine nario our cfo We are excited about entering a new year, as 2025 represented a strategic inflection point for the company, characterized by significant balance sheet growth, accelerating profitability, and a strategic expansion into Constructive, a leading business purpose loan originator. we are excited about entering a new year as 2025 represented a strategic inflection point for the company characterized by significant balance sheet growth accelerating profitability and a strategic expansion into constructive a leading business purpose loan originator We exited 2025 stronger and larger than at any point in our history. we exited 2025 stronger and larger than at any point in our history The transformation of Adamas over the past year has been deliberate and decisive. the transformation of adamas over the past year has been deliberate and decisive We expanded scale, materially enhanced recurring earnings power, strengthened the balance sheet, and positioned the company for durable long-term growth. we expanded scale materially enhanced recurring earnings power strengthened the balance sheet and positioned the company for durable long-term growth Our Q4 results are another validation to our strategy, which reinforce our confidence in the trajectory ahead. our q4 results are another validation to our strategy which reinforce our confidence in the trajectory ahead Salient 2025 company performance highlights include $3.1 billion investment portfolio expansion, a 44% increase to earnings available for distribution year-over-year, where we generated over $100 million of net income, leading to a 15% increase to our common dividend. All these factors contributed to generating a 36% cumulative total stockholder return, a transformational year where we also grew company book value. We stayed firm with the disciplined capital allocation, active portfolio management, and a clear strategic vision. By meaningfully increasing our allocation to Agency RMBS, we improved liquidity, reduced credit volatility, enhanced financing flexibility, and strengthened the trajectory of earnings. The balance sheet today is materially more resilient than it was a year ago and positioned well for 2026. Salient 2025 company performance highlights include $3.1 billion investment portfolio expansion, a 44% increase to earnings available for distribution year-over-year, where we generated over $100 million of net income, leading to a 15% increase to our common dividend. salient 2025 company performance highlights include $3.1 billion investment portfolio expansion a 44% increase to earnings available for distribution year-over-year where we generated over $100 million of net income leading to a 15% increase to our common dividend All these factors contributed to generating a 36% cumulative total stockholder return, a transformational year where we also grew company book value. all these factors contributed to generating a 36% cumulative total stockholder return a transformational year where we also grew company book value We stayed firm with the disciplined capital allocation, active portfolio management, and a clear strategic vision. we stayed firm with the disciplined capital allocation active portfolio management and a clear strategic vision By meaningfully increasing our allocation to Agency RMBS, we improved liquidity, reduced credit volatility, enhanced financing flexibility, and strengthened the trajectory of earnings. by meaningfully increasing our allocation to agency rmbs we improved liquidity reduced credit volatility enhanced financing flexibility and strengthened the trajectory of earnings The balance sheet today is materially more resilient than it was a year ago and positioned well for 2026. the balance sheet today is materially more resilient than it was a year ago and positioned well for 2026 The addition of a powerful new earnings engine in the full acquisition of Constructive strategically positioned Adamas to benefit from both stable spread income and scalable origination economics, a combination that we believe differentiates our platform. As an update to fourth quarter, GAAP book value and adjusted book value increased by 4.3% and 2.4%, respectively. Continuing the positive momentum we generated throughout the year, quarterly EAAD of $0.23 per share fully covered our dividend, but declined by $0.01 sequentially. This slight reduction from last quarter was anticipated and directly tied to the J-curve effect discussed in our third quarter communication related to the integration of Constructive. Importantly, this temporary negative impact reflects upfront integration and scaling costs, not structural earnings pressure. The addition of a powerful new earnings engine in the full acquisition of Constructive strategically positioned Adamas to benefit from both stable spread income and scalable origination economics, a combination that we believe differentiates our platform. the addition of a powerful new earnings engine in the full acquisition of constructive strategically positioned adamas to benefit from both stable spread income and scalable origination economics a combination that we believe differentiates our platform As an update to fourth quarter, GAAP book value and adjusted book value increased by 4.3% and 2.4%, respectively. as an update to fourth quarter gaap book value and adjusted book value increased by 4.3% and 2.4% respectively Continuing the positive momentum we generated throughout the year, quarterly EAAD of $0.23 per share fully covered our dividend, but declined by $0.01 sequentially. continuing the positive momentum we generated throughout the year quarterly eaad of $0.23 per share fully covered our dividend but declined by $0.01 sequentially This slight reduction from last quarter was anticipated and directly tied to the J-curve effect discussed in our third quarter communication related to the integration of Constructive. this slight reduction from last quarter was anticipated and directly tied to the j-curve effect discussed in our third quarter communication related to the integration of constructive Importantly, this temporary negative impact reflects upfront integration and scaling costs, not structural earnings pressure. importantly this temporary negative impact reflects upfront integration and scaling costs not structural earnings pressure As we transition from from integration to production, we expect Constructive to be a positive contributor to EAAD in the first quarter. Throughout 2025, we found scaling agency RMBS to be both an attractive investment on an absolute and relative basis, providing mid- to high-teens equity returns. We increased the company's agency RMBS portfolio by $3.4 billion, or to 56% of company capital, from 23% a year earlier, at an attractive average spread to Treasury, interpolated between five to 10-year maturities of 139 basis points. The strategic reallocation of capital throughout the year enhanced liquidity and balance sheet flexibility, also lowered our credit exposure and tail risk, as well as increased visibility into book value performance. Now, against that base, Constructive's DSCR origination platform introduces significant upside potential. As we transition from from integration to production, we expect Constructive to be a positive contributor to EAAD in the first quarter. as we transition from from integration to production we expect constructive to be a positive contributor to eaad in the first quarter Throughout 2025, we found scaling agency RMBS to be both an attractive investment on an absolute and relative basis, providing mid- to high-teens equity returns. throughout 2025 we found scaling agency rmbs to be both an attractive investment on an absolute and relative basis providing mid- to high-teens equity returns We increased the company's agency RMBS portfolio by $3.4 billion, or to 56% of company capital, from 23% a year earlier, at an attractive average spread to Treasury, interpolated between five to 10-year maturities of 139 basis points. we increased the company's agency rmbs portfolio by $3.4 billion or to 56% of company capital from 23% a year earlier at an attractive average spread to treasury interpolated between five to 10-year maturities of 139 basis points The strategic reallocation of capital throughout the year enhanced liquidity and balance sheet flexibility, also lowered our credit exposure and tail risk, as well as increased visibility into book value performance. the strategic reallocation of capital throughout the year enhanced liquidity and balance sheet flexibility also lowered our credit exposure and tail risk as well as increased visibility into book value performance Now, against that base, Constructive's DSCR origination platform introduces significant upside potential. now against that base constructive's dscr origination platform introduces significant upside potential As volume scales and efficiencies are realized, we believe the earnings contribution from the DSCR production from both a gain on sale as well as interest income from loans held can expand materially. We are excited to demonstrate the operating leverage embedded within our business model in the new year. Despite the transformation of the company, Adamas shares continue to trade at a substantial discount to intrinsic value. At year-end, the shares traded at a 31% discount to book value. Even more compelling, the market capitalization represents approximately a 14% discount to just the agency capital held on our balance sheet alone. As volume scales and efficiencies are realized, we believe the earnings contribution from the DSCR production from both a gain on sale as well as interest income from loans held can expand materially. as volume scales and efficiencies are realized we believe the earnings contribution from the dscr production from both a gain on sale as well as interest income from loans held can expand materially We are excited to demonstrate the operating leverage embedded within our business model in the new year. we are excited to demonstrate the operating leverage embedded within our business model in the new year Despite the transformation of the company, Adamas shares continue to trade at a substantial discount to intrinsic value. despite the transformation of the company adamas shares continue to trade at a substantial discount to intrinsic value At year-end, the shares traded at a 31% discount to book value. at year-end the shares traded at a 31% discount to book value Even more compelling, the market capitalization represents approximately a 14% discount to just the agency capital held on our balance sheet alone. even more compelling the market capitalization represents approximately a 14% discount to just the agency capital held on our balance sheet alone In practical terms, the market in 2025, and continuing in early 2026, is assigning limited to no value to our non-agency and multifamily holdings, our scaled origination platform with an exciting embedded earnings growth track, and our ability to grow book value. We believe the discount creates compelling upside potential as we continue to execute and expand earnings and demonstrate sustained book value creation. We have entered 2026 with strong momentum. In the first quarter, we were off to an exceptional start, as Adjusted Book Value is up between 3%-4%. At the same time, Constructive DSCR originations are beginning to contribute to earnings as expected. As acquisition efficiencies are realized, we see a clear path to expanding EAD in 2026. In practical terms, the market in 2025, and continuing in early 2026, is assigning limited to no value to our non-agency and multifamily holdings, our scaled origination platform with an exciting embedded earnings growth track, and our ability to grow book value. in practical terms the market in 2025 and continuing in early 2026 is assigning limited to no value to our non-agency and multifamily holdings our scaled origination platform with an exciting embedded earnings growth track and our ability to grow book value We believe the discount creates compelling upside potential as we continue to execute and expand earnings and demonstrate sustained book value creation. we believe the discount creates compelling upside potential as we continue to execute and expand earnings and demonstrate sustained book value creation We have entered 2026 with strong momentum. we have entered 2026 with strong momentum In the first quarter, we were off to an exceptional start, as Adjusted Book Value is up between 3%-4%. in the first quarter we were off to an exceptional start as adjusted book value is up between 3%-4% At the same time, Constructive DSCR originations are beginning to contribute to earnings as expected. at the same time constructive dscr originations are beginning to contribute to earnings as expected As acquisitio n efficiencies are realized, we see a clear path to expanding EAD in 2026. as acquisitio n efficiencies are realized we see a clear path to expanding ead in 2026 We are highly encouraged by the early results and increasingly confident in the earnings power of the platform. We approach 2026 with conviction and optimism in the macro backdrop. The progression of the Fed easing cycle, coupled with declining volatility, has created a favorable environment of lower rates and tighter spreads. The current administration's policy focus of improving housing affordability and reducing mortgage rates further reinforces our positive outlook on the residential assets. Our goal is to maintain flexibility, to capitalize emerging opportunities, and to direct capital to the most attractive risk-adjusted returns in the residential mortgage market. Dividend sustainability remains a core priority. In the year, we are focused on balancing competitive yields to expand recurring earnings with robust coverage and long-term capital preservation. We are energized by the opportunity in front of us and confident in our ability to deliver long-term value for our stockholders. We are highly encouraged by the early results and increasingly confident in the earnings power of the platform. we are highly encouraged by the early results and increasingly confident in the earnings power of the platform We approach 2026 with conviction and optimism in the macro backdrop. we approach 2026 with conviction and optimism in the macro backdrop The progression of the Fed easing cycle, coupled with declining volatility, has created a favorable environment of lower rates and tighter spreads. the progression of the fed easing cycle coupled with declining volatility has created a favorable environment of lower rates and tighter spreads The current administration's policy focus of improving housing affordability and reducing mortgage rates further reinforces our positive outlook on the residential assets. the current administration's policy focus of improving housing affordability and reducing mortgage rates further reinforces our positive outlook on the residential assets Our goal is to maintain flexibility, to capitalize emerging opportunities, and to direct capital to the most attractive risk-adjusted returns in the residential mortgage market. our goal is to maintain flexibility to capitalize emerging opportunities and to direct capital to the most attractive risk-adjusted returns in the residential mortgage market Dividend sustainability remains a core priority. dividend sustainability remains a core priority In the year, we are focused on balancing competitive yields to expand recurring earnings with robust coverage and long-term capital preservation. in the year we are focused on balancing competitive yields to expand recurring earnings with robust coverage and long-term capital preservation We are energized by the opportunity in front of us and confident in our ability to deliver long-term value for our stockholders. we are energized by the opportunity in front of us and confident in our ability to deliver long-term value for our stockholders At this time, I'll pass the call over to Nick for a market and strategy update. At this time, I'll pass the call over to Nick for a market and strategy update. at this time i'll pass the call over to nick for a market and strategy update
Speaker 7: Thank you, Jason. As we close out 2025, we are excited to have delivered significant EAD expansion alongside book value growth. Looking forward, we are confident that our two-pronged approach of investing in Agency RMBS and high-quality residential credit remains the optimal strategy for the current market environment. In the quarter, we deployed $810 million into residential assets, reflecting another period of solid investment activity. Agency RMBS purchases totaled $347 million in the fourth quarter, as tightening spreads moderated the pace of acquisitions. In residential credit, we invested in $276 million of BPL rental loans and $181 million of BPL bridge loans. This marks the first quarter where rental loan purchases exceeded bridge loan purchases, reflecting our deeper utilization of Constructive origination capabilities in rental loans. We anticipate that this trend will continue. Thank you, Jason. thank you jason As we close out 2025, we are excited to have delivered significant EAD expansion alongside book value growth. as we close out 2025 we are excited to have delivered significant ead expansion alongside book value growth Looking forward, we are confident that our two-pronged approach of investing in Agency RMBS and high-quality residential credit remains the optimal strategy for the current market environment. looking forward we are confident that our two-pronged approach of investing in agency rmbs and high-quality residential credit remains the optimal strategy for the current market environment In the quarter, we deployed $810 million into residential assets, reflecting another period of solid investment activity. in the quarter we deployed $810 million into residential assets reflecting another period of solid investment activity Agency RMBS purchases totaled $347 million in the fourth quarter, as tightening spreads moderated the pace of acquisitions. agency rmbs purchases totaled $347 million in the fourth quarter as tightening spreads moderated the pace of acquisitions In residential credit, we invested in $276 million of BPL rental loans and $181 million of BPL bridge loans. in residential credit we invested in $276 million of bpl rental loans and $181 million of bpl bridge loans This marks the first quarter where rental loan purchases exceeded bridge loan purchases, reflecting our deeper utilization of Constructive origination capabilities in rental loans. this marks the first quarter where rental loan purchases exceeded bridge loan purchases reflecting our deeper utilization of constructive origination capabilities in rental loans We anticipate that this trend will continue. we anticipate that this trend will continue Our agency portfolio ended the year at $6.6 billion, doubling in size over the course of 2025, constituting 63% of our investment portfolio and 56% of our equity capital. Agency RMBS now represents our single largest asset exposure. In the fourth quarter, our agency purchases were concentrated entirely in 5% coupon spec pools. We have continued to target low payup spec pools at or slightly under the current coupon, where we see the best balance of positive net interest margin, duration upside, and a more favorable convexity profile. Agency leverage also declined slightly in the quarter, falling to 7.7xfrom 7.8x. The pace of agency acquisitions was tempered by meaningful spread compression during the period. Our agency portfolio ended the year at $6.6 billion, doubling in size over the course of 2025, constituting 63% of our investment portfolio and 56% of our equity capital. our agency portfolio ended the year at $6.6 billion doubling in size over the course of 2025 constituting 63% of our investment portfolio and 56% of our equity capital Agency RMBS now represents our single largest asset exposure. agency rmbs now represents our single largest asset exposure In the fourth quarter, our agency purchases were concentrated entirely in 5% coupon spec pools. in the fourth quarter our agency purchases were concentrated entirely in 5% coupon spec pools We have continued to target low payup spec pools at or slightly under the current coupon, where we see the best balance of positive net interest margin, duration upside, and a more favorable convexity profile. we have continued to target low payup spec pools at or slightly under the current coupon where we see the best balance of positive net interest margin duration upside and a more favorable convexity profile Agency leverage also declined slightly in the quarter, falling to 7.7 x from 7.8 x. agency leverage also declined slightly in the quarter falling to 7.7 x from 7.8 x The pace of agency acquisitions was tempered by meaningful spread compression during the period. the pace of agency acquisitions was tempered by meaningful spread compression during the period Current coupon Agency spreads tightened by 16 basis points, narrowing from 126 basis points to 110 basis points. Interest rate volatility fell meaningfully in the fourth quarter and has steadily declined since the tariff announcements in April, providing the impetus for tightening spreads in agencies. Despite spreads normalizing toward longer-term averages, we continue to see value in Agency RMBS. Our capital allocation to agencies is expected to grow through 2026 to between 60% and 70% of equity capital. We will adjust the pace and magnitude of future acquisitions opportunistically in response to spread movements and broader market conditions over the course of the year. Our BPL rental portfolio has almost doubled over the course of 2025, growing from $770 million to $1.4 billion. Current coupon Agency spreads tightened by 16 basis points, narrowing from 126 basis points to 110 basis points. current coupon agency spreads tightened by 16 basis points narrowing from 126 basis points to 110 basis points Interest rate volatility fell meaningfully in the fourth quarter and has steadily declined since the tariff announcements in April, providing the impetus for tightening spreads in agencies. interest rate volatility fell meaningfully in the fourth quarter and has steadily declined since the tariff announcements in april providing the impetus for tightening spreads in agencies Despite spreads normalizing toward longer-term averages, we continue to see value in Agency RMBS. despite spreads normalizing toward longer-term averages we continue to see value in agency rmbs Our capital allocation to agencies is expected to grow through 2026 to between 60% and 70% of equity capital. our capital allocation to agencies is expected to grow through 2026 to between 60% and 70% of equity capital We will adjust the pace and magnitude of future acquisitions opportunistically in response to spread movements and broader market conditions over the course of the year. we will adjust the pace and magnitude of future acquisitions opportunistically in response to spread movements and broader market conditions over the course of the year Our BPL rental portfolio has almost doubled over the course of 2025, growing from $770 million to $1.4 billion. our bpl rental portfolio has almost doubled over the course of 2025 growing from $770 million to $1.4 billion This core strategy has benefited from the integration of Constructive's origination platform alongside our disciplined underwriting standards. Borrower metrics remain strong across the BPL rental portfolio, with a 748 average FICO, 71% average LTV, and 1.36x DSCR. Credit performance has been robust, with delinquencies remaining low at 1.4%, a direct result of our focus on credit quality. In 2025, we completed 4 securitizations across our whole loan portfolio. We continue to aggregate loans to execute securitizations, and we are on pace for executing one BPL rental deal a quarter, targeting a mid- to high-teens levered return. In the fourth quarter, non-QM AAA spreads remained range-bound at around 130 basis points. This core strategy has benefited from the integration of Constructive's origination platform alongside our disciplined underwriting standards. this core strategy has benefited from the integration of constructive's origination platform alongside our disciplined underwriting standards Borrower metrics remain strong across the BPL rental portfolio, with a 748 average FICO, 71% average LTV, and 1.36x DSCR. borrower metrics remain strong across the bpl rental portfolio with a 748 average fico 71% average ltv and 1.36x dscr Credit performance has been robust, with delinquencies remaining low at 1.4%, a direct result of our focus on credit quality. credit performance has been robust with delinquencies remaining low at 1.4% a direct result of our focus on credit quality In 2025, we completed 4 securitizations across our whole loan portfolio. in 2025 we completed 4 securitizations across our whole loan portfolio We continue to aggregate loans to execute securitizations, and we are on pace for executing one BPL rental deal a quarter, targeting a mid- to high-teens levered return. we continue to aggregate loans to execute securitizations and we are on pace for executing one bpl rental deal a quarter targeting a mid- to high-teens levered return In the fourth quarter, non-QM AAA spreads remained range-bound at around 130 basis points. in the fourth quarter non-qm aaa spreads remained range-bound at around 130 basis points Into the new year, however, we have seen meaningful spread compression as non-agency AAA spreads have converged towards agency levels, creating a favorable environment for us to grow our BPL rental loan securitization program. We continue to take a selective approach in BPL Bridge, where the portfolio stands at $820 million of UPB, a decline from $1.2 billion at the beginning of the year. The proliferation of revolving securitizations across a myriad of issuers has intensified buyer competition, driving yields tighter. At this juncture, we see more compelling opportunities in agencies and BPL rental, and we expect the size of the BPL Bridge portfolio to decline throughout 2026. Constructive continues to scale successfully, delivering its highest volume quarter of the year in Q4, with $474 million of originations. Into the new year, however, we have seen meaningful spread compression as non-agency AAA spreads have converged towards agency levels, creating a favorable environment for us to grow our BPL rental loan securitization program. into the new year however we have seen meaningful spread compression as non-agency aaa spreads have converged towards agency levels creating a favorable environment for us to grow our bpl rental loan securitization program We continue to take a selective approach in BPL Bridge, where the portfolio stands at $820 million of UPB, a decline from $1.2 billion at the beginning of the year. we continue to take a selective approach in bpl bridge where the portfolio stands at $820 million of upb a decline from $1.2 billion at the beginning of the year The proliferation of revolving securitizations across a myriad of issuers has intensified buyer competition, driving yields tighter. the proliferation of revolving securitizations across a myriad of issuers has intensified buyer competition driving yields tighter At this juncture, we see more compelling opportunities in agencies and BPL rental, and we expect the size of the BPL Bridge portfolio to decline throughout 2026. at this juncture we see more compelling opportunities in agencies and bpl rental and we expect the size of the bpl bridge portfolio to decline throughout 2026 Constructive continues to scale successfully, delivering its highest volume quarter of the year in Q4, with $474 million of originations. constructive continues to scale successfully delivering its highest volume quarter of the year in q4 with $474 million of originations Constructive originated $1.8 billion worth of loans in 2025, with 93% of those originations in BPL rental, reflecting a strong alignment with our core credit strategy. Origination quality remains robust, with a weighted average FICO of 751 and an average LTV of 74%. After our full acquisition of the platform, Constructive's loan production now matches closely with Adamas's investment criteria. We target strong borrower profiles in the stable segments of the credit spectrum. Beyond disciplined credit underwriting, we have deliberately minimized originations at the margins of securitization and eligibility and shifting institutional buyer mandates, concentrating production where institutional sponsorship and secondary market liquidity are the strongest. Over the past 12 months, new construction loans have represented less than 2%, and multifamily loans have represented less than 5% of Constructive's total origination. Constructive originated $1.8 billion worth of loans in 2025, with 93% of those originations in BPL rental, reflecting a strong alignment with our core credit strategy. constructive originated $1.8 billion worth of loans in 2025 with 93% of those originations in bpl rental reflecting a strong alignment with our core credit strategy Origination quality remains robust, with a weighted average FICO of 751 and an average LTV of 74%. origination quality remains robust with a weighted average fico of 751 and an average ltv of 74% After our full acquisition of the platform, Constructive's loan production now matches closely with Adamas's investment criteria. after our full acquisition of the platform constructive's loan production now matches closely with adamas's investment criteria We target strong borrower profiles in the stable segments of the credit spectrum. we target strong borrower profiles in the stable segments of the credit spectrum Beyond disciplined credit underwriting, we have deliberately minimized originations at the margins of securitization and eligibility and shifting institutional buyer mandates, concentrating production where institutional sponsorship and secondary market liquidity are the strongest. beyond disciplined credit underwriting we have deliberately minimized originations at the margins of securitization and eligibility and shifting institutional buyer mandates concentrating production where institutional sponsorship and secondary market liquidity are the strongest Over the past 12 months, new construction loans have represented less than 2%, and multifamily loans have represented less than 5% of Constructive's total origination. over the past 12 months new construction loans have represented less than 2% and multifamily loans have represented less than 5% of constructive's total origination We expect Constructive to become a strategic earnings driver and sourcing engine for the firm. In the quarter, Adamas purchased 44% of Constructive's originations, deliberately striking a balance of investment portfolio growth and the cultivation of Constructive's third-party distribution network. Through Constructive, we benefit from a capital-light model that produces both gain on sale revenue and a proprietary investment pipeline. We have the flexibility to direct BPL rental originations to our portfolio or to the secondary markets as conditions warrant, and we expect a broadly balanced allocation between the two in 2026. In multifamily, we had another positive quarter of resolutions at an accelerated 39% annualized payoff rate. Performance has been strong throughout 2025, with only one delinquent and one restructured asset, both unchanged over the course of the year. We expect Constructive to become a strategic earnings driver and sourcing engine for the firm. we expect constructive to become a strategic earnings driver and sourcing engine for the firm In the quarter, Adamas purchased 44% of Constructive's originations, deliberately striking a balance of investment portfolio growth and the cultivation of Constructive's third-party distribution network. in the quarter adamas purchased 44% of constructive's originations deliberately striking a balance of investment portfolio growth and the cultivation of constructive's third-party distribution network Through Constructive, we benefit from a capital-light model that produces both gain on sale revenue and a proprietary investment pipeline. through constructive we benefit from a capital-light model that produces both gain on sale revenue and a proprietary investment pipeline We have the flexibility to direct BPL rental originations to our portfolio or to the secondary markets as conditions warrant, and we expect a broadly balanced allocation between the two in 2026. we have the flexibility to direct bpl rental originations to our portfolio or to the secondary markets as conditions warrant and we expect a broadly balanced allocation between the two in 2026 In multifamily, we had another positive quarter of resolutions at an accelerated 39% annualized payoff rate. in multifamily we had another positive quarter of resolutions at an accelerated 39% annualized payoff rate Performance has been strong throughout 2025, with only one delinquent and one restructured asset, both unchanged over the course of the year. performance has been strong throughout 2025 with only one delinquent and one restructured asset both unchanged over the course of the year As the portfolio seasons, we anticipate that the pace of payoffs to be higher than the historical average of 26%, and we will continue to redeploy the proceeds into our higher-yielding core strategies. Our diversified agency and credit portfolio, paired with Constructive's origination capabilities, provide us multiple avenues to grow earnings in this market environment. We are well positioned to extend this momentum in portfolio growth and earnings through 2026. I will now pass the call to Kristine to walk through our financial highlights. As the portfolio seasons, we anticipate that the pace of payoffs to be higher than the historical average of 26%, and we will continue to redeploy the proceeds into our higher-yielding core strategies. as the portfolio seasons we anticipate that the pace of payoffs to be higher than the historical average of 26% and we will continue to redeploy the proceeds into our higher-yielding core strategies Our diversified agency and credit portfolio, paired with Constructive's origination capabilities, provide us multiple avenues to grow earnings in this market environment. our diversified agency and credit portfolio paired with constructive's origination capabilities provide us multiple avenues to grow earnings in this market environment We are well positioned to extend this momentum in portfolio growth and earnings through 2026. we are well positioned to extend this momentum in portfolio growth and earnings through 2026 I will now pass the call to Kristine to walk through our financial highlights. i will now pass the call to kristine to walk through our financial highlights
Speaker 4: Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. For the fourth quarter, we reported GAAP net income attributable to common stockholders of $41.6 million or $0.46 per share, and earnings available for distribution of $0.23 per share, which fully covered our quarterly dividend. After accounting for our $0.23 dividend, we generated a 6.85% economic return on GAAP book value and a 4.62% economic return on adjusted book value. For full year 2025, economic return on GAAP and adjusted book value was 12.72% and 11.1%, respectively. Our quarterly performance benefited from strong investment mark-to-market gains. We saw spread tightening across Agency RMBS and certain portions of our residential loan portfolio, which increased asset valuations and contributed meaningfully to earnings. Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. thank you nick and good morning everyone For the fourth quarter, we reported GAAP net income attributable to common stockholders of $41.6 million or $0.46 per share, and earnings available for distribution of $0.23 per share, which fully covered our quarterly dividend. for the fourth quarter we reported gaap net income attributable to common stockholders of $41.6 million or $0.46 per share and earnings available for distribution of $0.23 per share which fully covered our quarterly dividend After accounting for our $0.23 dividend, we generated a 6.85% economic return on GAAP book value and a 4.62% economic return on adjusted book value. after accounting for our $0.23 dividend we generated a 6.85% economic return on gaap book value and a 4.62% economic return on adjusted book value For full year 2025, economic return on GAAP and adjusted book value was 12.72% and 11.1%, respectively. for full year 2025 economic return on gaap and adjusted book value was 12.72% and 11.1% respectively Our quarterly performance benefited from strong investment mark-to-market gains. our quarterly performance benefited from strong investment mark-to-market gains We saw spread tightening across Agency RMBS and certain portions of our residential loan portfolio, which increased asset valuations and contributed meaningfully to earnings. we saw spread tightening across agency rmbs and certain portions of our residential loan portfolio which increased asset valuations and contributed meaningfully to earnings In addition, gains on our interest rate swaps contributed to our results as swap spreads widened during the quarter. Adjusted net interest income increased to $46.3 million in the fourth quarter from $42.8 million in the third quarter, and net interest spread remained stable at 152 basis points. These results reflect our continued portfolio repositioning toward Agency RMBS and BPL rental loans, while also benefiting from improved financing costs. Partially offsetting the positive valuation impact that I mentioned earlier, we recorded $14.9 million of realized losses, primarily related to discounted payoffs and resolution activity on certain non-performing residential loans and valuation adjustments on foreclosed properties, primarily related to our BPL Bridge portfolio. These actions reflect ongoing active portfolio management and credit resolution efforts, and in most cases, the realized losses had been substantially reflected in prior period marks. In addition, gains on our interest rate swaps contributed to our results as swap spreads widened during the quarter. in addition gains on our interest rate swaps contributed to our results as swap spreads widened during the quarter Adjusted net interest income increased to $46.3 million in the fourth quarter from $42.8 million in the third quarter, and net interest spread remained stable at 152 basis points. adjusted net interest income increased to $46.3 million in the fourth quarter from $42.8 million in the third quarter and net interest spread remained stable at 152 basis points These results reflect our continued portfolio repositioning toward Agency RMBS and BPL rental loans, while also benefiting from improved financing costs. these results reflect our continued portfolio repositioning toward agency rmbs and bpl rental loans while also benefiting from improved financing costs Partially offsetting the positive valuation impact that I mentioned earlier, we recorded $14.9 million of realized losses, primarily related to discounted payoffs and resolution activity on certain non-performing residential loans and valuation adjustments on foreclosed properties, primarily related to our BPL Bridge portfolio. partially offsetting the positive valuation impact that i mentioned earlier we recorded $14.9 million of realized losses primarily related to discounted payoffs and resolution activity on certain non-performing residential loans and valuation adjustments on foreclosed properties primarily related to our bpl bridge portfolio These actions reflect ongoing active portfolio management and credit resolution efforts, and in most cases, the realized losses had been substantially reflected in prior period marks. these actions reflect ongoing active portfolio management and credit resolution efforts and in most cases the realized losses had been substantially reflected in prior period marks Turning to Constructive, the platform continued to demonstrate solid origination momentum during the quarter. Constructive generated $12.5 million in mortgage banking income, driven by higher origination volumes and related origination fees, partially offset by lower valuation on interest rate lock commitments and the prudent increase in loan repurchase reserves. Constructive incurred $4.3 million in direct loan origination costs and $10.2 million in direct G&A expenses, resulting in a $2 million loss for the quarter on a standalone basis. Direct G&A for Turning to Constructive, the platform continued to demonstrate solid origination momentum during the quarter. turning to constructive the platform continued to demonstrate solid origination momentum during the quarter Constructive generated $12.5 million in mortgage banking income, driven by higher origination volumes and related origination fees, partially offset by lower valuation on interest rate lock commitments and the prudent increase in loan repurchase reserves. constructive generated $12.5 million in mortgage banking income driven by higher origination volumes and related origination fees partially offset by lower valuation on interest rate lock commitments and the prudent increase in loan repurchase reserves Constructive incurred $4.3 million in direct loan origination costs and $10.2 million in direct G&A expenses, resulting in a $2 million loss for the quarter on a standalone basis. constructive incurred $4.3 million in direct loan origination costs and $10.2 million in direct g&a expenses resulting in a $2 million loss for the quarter on a standalone basis Direct G&A for direct g&a for Constructive increased in line with higher production volumes, the full quarter impact of consolidation, and also continues to include expenses associated with integration. We view these items as part of normal progression of integrating and scaling the platform. Constructive increased in line with higher production volumes, the full quarter impact of consolidation, and also continues to include expenses associated with integration. constructive increased in line with higher production volumes the full quarter impact of consolidation and also continues to include expenses associated with integration We view these items as part of normal progression of integrating and scaling the platform. we view these items as part of normal progression of integrating and scaling the platform Origination activity and pipeline trends remain healthy, and as integration efforts moderate and production continue to grow, we expect a more consistent earnings contribution from Constructive. At acquisition, we estimated Constructive to generate approximately 15% annual equity return, and our current expectations remain aligned with that target. Total consolidated Adamas G&A expenses were $25.1 million for the quarter, up from $23.3 million last quarter, reflecting the full quarter consolidation of Constructive. From a capital markets perspective, we continue to strengthen our balance sheet. During the year, we issued $198 million senior unsecured notes to extend and diversify our funding profile. Origination activity and pipeline trends remain healthy, and as integration efforts moderate and production continue to grow, we expect a more consistent earnings contribution from Constructive. origination activity and pipeline trends remain healthy and as integration efforts moderate and production continue to grow we expect a more consistent earnings contribution from constructive At acquisition, we estimated Constructive to generate approximately 15% annual equity return, and our current expectations remain aligned with that target. at acquisition we estimated constructive to generate approximately 15% annual equity return and our current expectations remain aligned with that target Total consolidated Adamas G&A expenses were $25.1 million for the quarter, up from $23.3 million last quarter, reflecting the full quarter consolidation of Constructive. total consolidated adamas g&a expenses were $25.1 million for the quarter up from $23.3 million last quarter reflecting the full quarter consolidation of constructive From a capital markets perspective, we continue to strengthen our balance sheet. from a capital markets perspective we continue to strengthen our balance sheet During the year, we issued $198 million senior unsecured notes to extend and diversify our funding profile. during the year we issued $198 million senior unsecured notes to extend and diversify our funding profile Subsequent to quarter end, we issued $90 million of 9.25% senior unsecured notes due 2031, and redeem our $100 million, 5.75% senior unsecured notes due 2026 at par, retiring that obligation ahead of its April maturity. As a result, we now have no corporate debt maturities for the next three years. This provides meaningful flexibility and positions us to focus our capital on growing the investment portfolio rather than addressing near-term refinancing needs. At year-end, we maintained $206 million of available cash and approximately $420 million of total liquidity capacity, including financing available on unencumbered and underlevered assets. Our company recourse leverage ratio was 5x, and portfolio recourse leverage ratio was 4.7x, with leverage primarily concentrated in agency financing. Subsequent to quarter end, we issued $90 million of 9.25% senior unsecured notes due 2031, and redeem our $100 million, 5.75% senior unsecured notes due 2026 at par, retiring that obligation ahead of its April maturity. subsequent to quarter end we issued $90 million of 9.25% senior unsecured notes due 2031 and redeem our $100 million 5.75% senior unsecured notes due 2026 at par retiring that obligation ahead of its april maturity As a result, we now have no corporate debt maturities for the next three years. as a result we now have no corporate debt maturities for the next three years This provides meaningful flexibility and positions us to focus our capital on growing the investment portfolio rather than addressing near-term refinancing needs. this provides meaningful flexibility and positions us to focus our capital on growing the investment portfolio rather than addressing near-term refinancing needs At year-end, we maintained $206 million of available cash and approximately $420 million of total liquidity capacity, including financing available on unencumbered and underlevered assets. at year-end we maintained $206 million of available cash and approximately $420 million of total liquidity capacity including financing available on unencumbered and underlevered assets Our company recourse leverage ratio was 5x, and portfolio recourse leverage ratio was 4.7x, with leverage primarily concentrated in agency financing. our company recourse leverage ratio was 5x and portfolio recourse leverage ratio was 4.7x with leverage primarily concentrated in agency financing Overall, our strategic repositioning has strengthened the durability of our earnings profile and positioned the company for continued growth in recurring income. We remain focused on disciplined execution and delivering sustainable returns for our stockholders. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open it up for questions. Overall, our strategic repositioning has strengthened the durability of our earnings profile and positioned the company for continued growth in recurring income. overall our strategic repositioning has strengthened the durability of our earnings profile and positioned the company for continued growth in recurring income We remain focused on disciplined execution and delivering sustainable returns for our stockholders. we remain focused on disciplined execution and delivering sustainable returns for our stockholders That concludes our prepared remarks. that concludes our prepared remarks Operator, please open it up for questions. operator please open it up for questions
Speaker 8: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment while we compile our Q&A roster. Our first question will come from the line of Doug Harter with UBS. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Thank you. thank you As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. as a reminder to ask a question please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. to withdraw your question please press star one one again One moment while we compile our Q&A roster. one moment while we compile our q&a roster Our first question will come from the line of Doug Harter with UBS. our first question will come from the line of doug harter with ubs Your line is open. your line is open Please go ahead. please go ahead
Speaker 5: Good morning, it's Marissa Lobel on for Doug today. Thanks for taking my question. On the pace of deployment between Agency MBS and residential loans in 2026, how are you viewing the relative attractiveness of Agency MBS given the significant spread tightening year to date? Good morning, it's Marissa Lobel on for Doug today. good morning it's marissa lobel on for doug today Thanks for taking my question. thanks for taking my question On the pace of deployment between Agency MBS and residential loans in 2026, how are you viewing the relative attractiveness of Agency MBS given the significant spread tightening year to date? on the pace of deployment between agency mbs and residential loans in 2026 how are you viewing the relative attractiveness of agency mbs given the significant spread tightening year to date
Speaker 7: Yeah, so from a levered return perspective, we do see a higher return on the non-agency credit that we invest in, in particular, BPL rental. So for that particular asset class, we see somewhere in the mid- to high-teens-type levered return, compared to agencies today, somewhere in the mid-teens-type return, on a levered hedge basis. So we are still constructive on both. We still like both asset classes. We like the balance and the diversity that having both on our portfolio gives us. As I mentioned in my earlier remarks, we do expect the agency portfolio to grow. So right now it's at 56% of equity capital. We do expect it to grow into the 60s, assuming market conditions hold. Yeah, so from a levered return perspective, we do see a higher return on the non-agency credit that we invest in, in particular, BPL rental. yeah so from a levered return perspective we do see a higher return on the non-agency credit that we invest in in particular bpl rental So for that particular asset class, we see somewhere in the mid- to high-teens-type levered return, compared to agencies today, somewhere in the mid-teens-type return, on a levered hedge basis. so for that particular asset class we see somewhere in the mid- to high-teens-type levered return compared to agencies today somewhere in the mid-teens-type return on a levered hedge basis So we are still constructive on both. so we are still constructive on both We still like both asset classes. we still like both asset classes We like the balance and the diversity that having both on our portfolio gives us. we like the balance and the diversity that having both on our portfolio gives us As I mentioned in my earlier remarks, we do expect the agency portfolio to grow. as i mentioned in my earlier remarks we do expect the agency portfolio to grow So right now it's at 56% of equity capital. so right now it's at 56% of equity capital We do expect it to grow into the 60s, assuming market conditions hold. we do expect it to grow into the 60s assuming market conditions hold We do think that the agency, the non-agency part of our portfolio will stay about the same, but that's not because we are not increasing our BPL rental exposure. We're gonna continue to increase that, but because BPL Bridge does pay down relatively quickly and we find less opportunity there, that effectively the mix within non-agencies will change, but we expect that the percentages in the non-agency side to remain relatively static. So where does the additional equity capital come from? It comes from the continued resolutions in the multifamily portfolio and other non-core strategies. We do think that the agency, the non-agency part of our portfolio will stay about the same, but that's not because we are not increasing our BPL rental exposure. we do think that the agency the non-agency part of our portfolio will stay about the same but that's not because we are not increasing our bpl rental exposure We're gonna continue to increase that, but because BPL Bridge does pay down relatively quickly and we find less opportunity there, that effectively the mix within non-agencies will change, but we expect that the percentages in the non-agency side to remain relatively static. we're gonna continue to increase that but because bpl bridge does pay down relatively quickly and we find less opportunity there that effectively the mix within non-agencies will change but we expect that the percentages in the non-agency side to remain relatively static So where does the additional equity capital come from? so where does the additional equity capital come from It comes from the continued resolutions in the multifamily portfolio and other non-core strategies. it comes from the continued resolutions in the multifamily portfolio and other non-core strategies
Speaker 5: That's very helpful. Thank you. And looking at the expenses related to the Constructive acquisition, how should we think about the remaining integration costs and the 2026 run rate for operating expenses related to Constructive? That's very helpful. that's very helpful Thank you. thank you And looking at the expenses related to the Constructive acquisition, how should we think about the remaining integration costs and the 2026 run rate for operating expenses related to Constructive? and looking at the expenses related to the constructive acquisition how should we think about the remaining integration costs and the 2026 run rate for operating expenses related to constructive
Speaker 4: We still see in the first quarter, partially some integration costs, you know, with Constructive. It's only been there for about six months. But in terms of G&A ratio, when you think about it, it's gonna be approximately 7%-7.5% of stockholders' equity, and really approximately 44% of that would be attributable to Constructive, with the rest, really, Adamas. And if you think about Constructive, roughly 40% of their G&A is variable and directly tied to origination activity. And this really provides us meaningful expense flexibility as volumes fluctuate. So, as I said, it's about 7% or 7.5% of stockholders' equity would be our run rate. We still see in the first quarter, partially some integration costs, you know, with Constructive. we still see in the first quarter partially some integration costs you know with constructive It's only been there for about six months. it's only been there for about six months But in terms of G&A ratio, when you think about it, it's gonna be approximately 7%-7.5% of stockholders' equity, and really approximately 44% of that would be attributable to Constructive, with the rest, really, Adamas. but in terms of g&a ratio when you think about it it's gonna be approximately 7%-7.5% of stockholders' equity and really approximately 44% of that would be attributable to constructive with the rest really adamas And if you think about Constructive, roughly 40% of their G&A is variable and directly tied to origination activity. and if you think about constructive roughly 40% of their g&a is variable and directly tied to origination activity And this really provides us meaningful expense flexibility as volumes fluctuate. and this really provides us meaningful expense flexibility as volumes fluctuate So, as I said, it's about 7% or 7.5% of stockholders' equity would be our run rate. so as i said it's about 7% or 7.5% of stockholders' equity would be our run rate
Speaker 5: Got it. Thank you. And finally, just on that comment about the gain on sale, change this quarter, reflecting lower, commitment valuations and the increase in loan repurchase reserves, could you expand on that? Are there, you know, what are the implications to the valuation of loans on balance sheet? Got it. got it Thank you. thank you And finally, just on that comment about the gain on sale, change this quarter, reflecting lower, commitment valuations and the increase in loan repurchase reserves, could you expand on that? and finally just on that comment about the gain on sale change this quarter reflecting lower commitment valuations and the increase in loan repurchase reserves could you expand on that Are there, you know, what are the implications to the valuation of loans on balance sheet? are there you know what are the implications to the valuation of loans on balance sheet
Speaker 4: We don't-- Yeah, we think it is transitional. Let's talk about the interest rate lock commit, interest rate lock valuation. It was really primarily driven by a smaller pipeline compared to last quarter and modestly lower pull-through rate, reflecting pricing conditions during the period. These changes are consistent with kind of normal quarter-to-quarter market fluctuations, and we continue to actively monitor and manage the pipeline and align it with current market conditions. In terms of repurchase reserves, we think it was prudent to increase the repurchase reserves, and it is really tied into our purchase of the 50% interest into Constructive, and Nick can go into a little bit more detail. We don't-- Yeah, we think it is transitional. we don't-- yeah we think it is transitional Let's talk about the interest rate lock commit, interest rate lock valuation. let's talk about the interest rate lock commit interest rate lock valuation It was really primarily driven by a smaller pipeline compared to last quarter and modestly lower pull-through rate, reflecting pricing conditions during the period. it was really primarily driven by a smaller pipeline compared to last quarter and modestly lower pull-through rate reflecting pricing conditions during the period These changes are consistent with kind of normal quarter-to-quarter market fluctuations, and we continue to actively monitor and manage the pipeline and align it with current market conditions. these changes are consistent with kind of normal quarter-to-quarter market fluctuations and we continue to actively monitor and manage the pipeline and align it with current market conditions In terms of repurchase reserves, we think it was prudent to increase the repurchase reserves, and it is really tied into our purchase of the 50% interest into Constructive, and Nick can go into a little bit more detail. in terms of repurchase reserves we think it was prudent to increase the repurchase reserves and it is really tied into our purchase of the 50% interest into constructive and nick can go into a little bit more detail
Speaker 7: Yeah, we effectively coordinated the magnitude and timing of some of these repurchases and the corresponding reserves, with, in collaboration with our former equity partner in the Constructive business. And primarily, these actions were executed in the fourth quarter to take advantage of, you know, provisions and indemnities that were provided as part of the Constructive purchase transaction. We don't see the repurchase loan loss reserves as an extrapolation of higher loss trends or credit concerns for 2026. We feel very comfortable with the credit underwriting that we currently have in Constructive. Yeah, we effectively coordinated the magnitude and timing of some of these repurchases and the corresponding reserves, with, in collaboration with our former equity partner in the Constructive business. yeah we effectively coordinated the magnitude and timing of some of these repurchases and the corresponding reserves with in collaboration with our former equity partner in the constructive business And primarily, these actions were executed in the fourth quarter to take advantage of, you know, provisions and indemnities that were provided as part of the Constructive purchase transaction. and primarily these actions were executed in the fourth quarter to take advantage of you know provisions and indemnities that were provided as part of the constructive purchase transaction We don't see the repurchase loan loss reserves as an extrapolation of higher loss trends or credit concerns for 2026. we don't see the repurchase loan loss reserves as an extrapolation of higher loss trends or credit concerns for 2026 We feel very comfortable with the credit underwriting that we currently have in Constructive. we feel very comfortable with the credit underwriting that we currently have in constructive
Speaker 5: Got it. Thank you very much. Thanks for taking my questions. Got it. got it Thank you very much. thank you very much Thanks for taking my questions. thanks for taking my questions
Speaker 8: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Bose George with KBW. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Thank you. thank you One moment for our next question. one moment for our next question Our next question will come from the line of Bose George with KBW. our next question will come from the line of bose george with kbw Your line is open. your line is open Please go ahead. please go ahead
Speaker 1: Thanks. It's actually Frank Libetti on for Bose. Good morning, guys. I want to start with discussing about the balancing between capital, capital deployment, between scale and Constructive originations versus increasing agency deployment or share repurchases. Then is there like, a preferred return threshold guiding that allocation going forward? Thanks. Thanks. thanks It's actually Frank Libetti on for Bose. it's actually frank libetti on for bose Good morning, guys. good morning guys I want to start with discussing about the balancing between capital, capital deployment, between scale and Constructive originations versus increasing agency deployment or share repurchases. i want to start with discussing about the balancing between capital capital deployment between scale and constructive originations versus increasing agency deployment or share repurchases Then is there like, a preferred return threshold guiding that allocation going forward? then is there like a preferred return threshold guiding that allocation going forward Thanks. thanks
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for the question. So, ultimately, you know, we're focusing on mid- to high-teens returns on a risk-adjusted basis throughout the different avenues which we deploy capital into. You know, the interchange of that, you know, does change per quarter based on what, you know, what's available in the market and, you know, different underwriting trends that we're seeing. Going back to Constructive, we see it as more of a capital-light model given their wholesale origination business. You know, Nick mentioned earlier that we're focused on both, you know, gain on sale through selling to third parties, as well as holding on balance sheet for our origination activity, securitization activity, which we expect one securitization a month in this space. Yeah, thank you for the question. yeah thank you for the question So, ultimately, you know, we're focusing on mid- to high-teens returns on a risk-adjusted basis throughout the different avenues which we deploy capital into. so ultimately you know we're focusing on mid- to high-teens returns on a risk-adjusted basis throughout the different avenues which we deploy capital into You know, the interchange of that, you know, does change per quarter based on what, you know, what's available in the market and, you know, different underwriting trends that we're seeing. you know the interchange of that you know does change per quarter based on what you know what's available in the market and you know different underwriting trends that we're seeing Going back to Constructive, we see it as more of a capital-light model given their wholesale origination business. going back to constructive we see it as more of a capital-light model given their wholesale origination business You know, Nick mentioned earlier that we're focused on both, you know, gain on sale through selling to third parties, as well as holding on balance sheet for our origination activity, securitization activity, which we expect one securitization a month in this space. you know nick mentioned earlier that we're focused on both you know gain on sale through selling to third parties as well as holding on balance sheet for our origination activity securitization activity which we expect one securitization a month in this space But we don't expect to have, you know, a significant increase of capital allocation towards that strategy, even with origination volumes that were to grow. That was one of the primary focuses that we looked at, Constructive many years ago, and you know, why we were excited about their business model. It provides for flexibility on the capital side, you know, keeping it flat with origination trends going up or down. So we think it'll be consistent kind of capital allocation there. But we don't expect to have, you know, a significant increase of capital allocation towards that strategy, even with origination volumes that were to grow. but we don't expect to have you know a significant increase of capital allocation towards that strategy even with origination volumes that were to grow That was one of the primary focuses that we looked at, Constructive many years ago, and you know, why we were excited about their business model. that was one of the primary focuses that we looked at constructive many years ago and you know why we were excited about their business model It provides for flexibility on the capital side, you know, keeping it flat with origination trends going up or down. it provides for flexibility on the capital side you know keeping it flat with origination trends going up or down So we think it'll be consistent kind of capital allocation there. so we think it'll be consistent kind of capital allocation there And then the trends of looking at different asset classes, again, it's really, you know, we're Nick mentioned a target of 60% on agencies, and that's just looking at where we see value in today's market, the interchange between BPL Bridge and rental. The fact that BPL Bridge, we think will be reduced on our balance sheet just due to payoffs that are happening there and a lack of opportunity that we're seeing. And on the rental side, you know, continuing to support efforts there from Constructive and seeing value in that space. So ultimately, you know, it really depends what the market's giving us, and we're gonna make the prudent, you know, capital allocations accordingly. And then the trends of looking at different asset classes, again, it's really, you know, we're Nick mentioned a target of 60% on agencies, and that's just looking at where we see value in today's market, the interchange between BPL Bridge and rental. and then the trends of looking at different asset classes again it's really you know we're nick mentioned a target of 60% on agencies and that's just looking at where we see value in today's market the interchange between bpl bridge and rental The fact that BPL Bridge, we think will be reduced on our balance sheet just due to payoffs that are happening there and a lack of opportunity that we're seeing. the fact that bpl bridge we think will be reduced on our balance sheet just due to payoffs that are happening there and a lack of opportunity that we're seeing And on the rental side, you know, continuing to support efforts there from Constructive and seeing value in that space. and on the rental side you know continuing to support efforts there from constructive and seeing value in that space So ultimately, you know, it really depends what the market's giving us, and we're gonna make the prudent, you know, capital allocations accordingly. so ultimately you know it really depends what the market's giving us and we're gonna make the prudent you know capital allocations accordingly
Speaker 7: One follow-on comment on Constructive. So we're still in the process of transition, and there are still things that we can do to more to increase volume and increase efficiencies and reduce costs that does not require capital. Like, for example, getting them better better financing lines with better terms, whether it's, you know, providing our captive capital to reduce the time the warehouse time that they have their their loans under. So there's things that we can do that doesn't necessarily require additional capital, and we're actually focused on those things first before planning to put additional capital in. One follow-on comment on Constructive. one follow-on comment on constructive So we're still in the process of transition, and there are still things that we can do to more to increase volume and increase efficiencies and reduce costs that does not require capital. so we're still in the process of transition and there are still things that we can do to more to increase volume and increase efficiencies and reduce costs that does not require capital Like, for example, getting them better better financing lines with better terms, whether it's, you know, providing our captive capital to reduce the time the warehouse time that they have their their loans under. like for example getting them better better financing lines with better terms whether it's you know providing our captive capital to reduce the time the warehouse time that they have their their loans under So there's things that we can do that doesn't necessarily require additional capital, and we're actually focused on those things first before planning to put additional capital in. so there's things that we can do that doesn't necessarily require additional capital and we're actually focused on those things first before planning to put additional capital in
Speaker 1: Great. That's, that's very helpful. And then sticking on Constructive, you just talk about the competition in the business purpose lending channel. You know, demand for the product is clearly very strong. Are you seeing any new entrants in the space and any pressure on margins there? Great. great That's, that's very helpful. that's that's very helpful And then sticking on Constructive, you just talk about the competition in the business purpose lending channel. and then sticking on constructive you just talk about the competition in the business purpose lending channel You know, demand for the product is clearly very strong. you know demand for the product is clearly very strong Are you seeing any new entrants in the space and any pressure on margins there? are you seeing any new entrants in the space and any pressure on margins there
Speaker 7: Yeah, on the competition in DSCR loans in particular, yes, this is a space that Constructive has been in for a while, so we have seen the ebbs and flows in terms of competition. Obviously, at this juncture, it is a relatively competitive business. There's also very strong demand for loans from institutional buyers across both non-QM as well as BPL rental/DSCR. So, there's fortunately a strong demand there from... In terms of comp, and therefore originators have tried to grow in that particular space. I think from our perspective, Constructive has always been a top-tier player. They have very long-term relationships. They're navigating the competition very well. Yeah, on the competition in DSCR loans in particular, yes, this is a space that Constructive has been in for a while, so we have seen the ebbs and flows in terms of competition. yeah on the competition in dscr loans in particular yes this is a space that constructive has been in for a while so we have seen the ebbs and flows in terms of competition Obviously, at this juncture, it is a relatively competitive business. obviously at this juncture it is a relatively competitive business There's also very strong demand for loans from institutional buyers across both non-QM as well as BPL rental/DSCR. there's also very strong demand for loans from institutional buyers across both non-qm as well as bpl rental/dscr So, there's fortunately a strong demand there from... so there's fortunately a strong demand there from In terms of comp, and therefore originators have tried to grow in that particular space. in terms of comp and therefore originators have tried to grow in that particular space I think from our perspective, Constructive has always been a top-tier player. i think from our perspective constructive has always been a top-tier player They have very long-term relationships. they have very long-term relationships They're navigating the competition very well. they're navigating the competition very well And I think one of the things that we are, we are seeing is some of the larger non-QM originators having a higher percentage allocation of originations into BPL rental. That is a trend that we think will continue. In some cases, we have also or Constructive has partnered with some of these larger entities to grow volume as well. So the market continues to evolve and change. Fortunately, there's strong demand, but the competition is something that we have been we've been mindful of and navigating very well. And I think one of the things that we are, we are seeing is some of the larger non-QM originators having a higher percentage allocation of originations into BPL rental. and i think one of the things that we are we are seeing is some of the larger non-qm originators having a higher percentage allocation of originations into bpl rental That is a trend that we think will continue. that is a trend that we think will continue In some cases, we have also or Constructive has partnered with some of these larger entities to grow volume as well. in some cases we have also or constructive has partnered with some of these larger entities to grow volume as well So the market continues to evolve and change. so the market continues to evolve and change Fortunately, there's strong demand, but the competition is something that we have been we've been mindful of and navigating very well. fortunately there's strong demand but the competition is something that we have been we've been mindful of and navigating very well
Speaker 1: Great. Thank you. Just one more if I can. Did you guys provide an update on book value quarter to date? Great. great Thank you. thank you Just one more if I can. just one more if i can Did you guys provide an update on book value quarter to date? did you guys provide an update on book value quarter to date
Speaker 7: Yeah. So in Jason's remarks, he mentioned that adjusted book value is up somewhere between 3%-4%, thus far quarter to date. Yeah. yeah So in Jason's remarks, he mentioned that adjusted book value is up somewhere between 3%-4%, thus far quarter to date. so in jason's remarks he mentioned that adjusted book value is up somewhere between 3%-4% thus far quarter to date
Speaker 1: Okay, great. Thank you, guys. Okay, great. okay great Thank you, guys. thank you guys
Speaker 8: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Erdner with Jones Trading. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Thank you. thank you One moment for our next question. one moment for our next question Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Erdner with Jones Trading. our next question comes from the line of matthew erdner with jones trading Your line is open. your line is open Please go ahead. please go ahead
Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. You know, there's been a lot of talk about institutionals, or I guess, institutions being banned kind of from that rental space. Could you talk about just the profile of borrower that you guys have? You know, and if that were to occur, what impact it would have? Hey, good morning, guys. hey good morning guys Thanks for taking the question. thanks for taking the question You know, there's been a lot of talk about institutionals, or I guess, institutions being banned kind of from that rental space. you know there's been a lot of talk about institutionals or i guess institutions being banned kind of from that rental space Could you talk about just the profile of borrower that you guys have? could you talk about just the profile of borrower that you guys have You know, and if that were to occur, what impact it would have? you know and if that were to occur what impact it would have
Speaker 7: Sure. Well, we think that if this policy ultimately goes through, that it will be positive for Constructive's business. So Constructive originates loans really to individual investors, not to institutional investors. Every single one of Constructive's borrowers of loans originated in 2025 owns less than 80 single-family properties, and the average is significantly lower than that. So, and institutional investors own SFR properties by the thousands. So we don't have a lot of details yet, but in the White House executive order, the policy is really looking to limit purchases, and I quote, "From, you know, Wall Street investors and large institutional investors." So the definitions of which are forthcoming, but these are not necessarily descriptors of Constructive's client base. So, you know, that overall, I think that if there was a ban on institutions owning SFR, it would be positive for Constructive. Sure. sure Well, we think that if this policy ultimately goes through, that it will be positive for Constructive's business. well we think that if this policy ultimately goes through that it will be positive for constructive's business So Constructive originates loans really to individual investors, not to institutional investors. so constructive originates loans really to individual investors not to institutional investors Every single one of Constructive's borrowers of loans originated in 2025 owns less than 80 single-family properties, and the average is significantly lower than that. every single one of constructive's borrowers of loans originated in 2025 owns less than 80 single-family properties and the average is significantly lower than that So, and institutional investors own SFR properties by the thousands. so and institutional investors own sfr properties by the thousands So we don't have a lot of details yet, but in the White House executive order, the policy is really looking to limit purchases, and I quote, "From, you know, Wall Street investors and large institutional investors." So the definitions of which are forthcoming, but these are not necessarily descriptors of Constructive's client base. so we don't have a lot of details yet but in the white house executive order the policy is really looking to limit purchases and i quote "from you know wall street investors and large institutional investors." so the definitions of which are forthcoming but these are not necessarily descriptors of constructive's client base So, you know, that overall, I think that if there was a ban on institutions owning SFR, it would be positive for Constructive. so you know that overall i think that if there was a ban on institutions owning sfr it would be positive for constructive It should increase the supply of homes and transactions, and reduce the demand for homes that our borrowers target. It should increase the supply of homes and transactions, and reduce the demand for homes that our borrowers target. it should increase the supply of homes and transactions and reduce the demand for homes that our borrowers target
Speaker 6: Got it. Got it. That's helpful. And then apologies if I missed this on the last question, but, could you kind of talk about share repurchases, you know, if you did any during the quarter? I don't think you did, and how you're viewing that going forward. Got it. got it Got it. got it That's helpful. that's helpful And then apologies if I missed this on the last question, but, could you kind of talk about share repurchases, you know, if you did any during the quarter? and then apologies if i missed this on the last question but could you kind of talk about share repurchases you know if you did any during the quarter I don't think you did, and how you're viewing that going forward. i don't think you did and how you're viewing that going forward
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, the way we look at share repurchases is, you know, just as a different capital allocation relative to the opportunities we see in the market as a whole. We did not repurchase shares in the quarter, in the fourth quarter. We do look at, you know, where our price to book is, and the creative value of actually utilizing capital for that. You know, in share repurchases, it, you know, it's a permanent capital reduction, you know, in retiring those shares. We don't get the ability to hold in treasury and try to issue later. Yeah, so, you know, the way we look at share repurchases is, you know, just as a different capital allocation relative to the opportunities we see in the market as a whole. yeah so you know the way we look at share repurchases is you know just as a different capital allocation relative to the opportunities we see in the market as a whole We did not repurchase shares in the quarter, in the fourth quarter. we did not repurchase shares in the quarter in the fourth quarter We do look at, you know, where our price to book is, and the creative value of actually utilizing capital for that. we do look at you know where our price to book is and the creative value of actually utilizing capital for that You know, in share repurchases, it, you know, it's a permanent capital reduction, you know, in retiring those shares. you know in share repurchases it you know it's a permanent capital reduction you know in retiring those shares We don't get the ability to hold in treasury and try to issue later. we don't get the ability to hold in treasury and try to issue later So, you know, what we have to do is just -- we focus on whether or not, you know, the capital that we have allocated to and budgeted for our investment programs, you know, is accretive relative to, you know, using that capital and permanent deletion of that capital related to those share repurchases. So it's something that we consistently look at, and we monitor, we throw in our models as it relates to core capital allocations, and, you know, we will continue doing that. You know, we have, in previous quarters, repurchased shares as the market, you know, provided some opportunities there, and we'll continue to look at that going forward. So, you know, what we have to do is just -- we focus on whether or not, you know, the capital that we have allocated to and budgeted for our investment programs, you know, is accretive relative to, you know, using that capital and permanent deletion of that capital related to those share repurchases. so you know what we have to do is just -- we focus on whether or not you know the capital that we have allocated to and budgeted for our investment programs you know is accretive relative to you know using that capital and permanent deletion of that capital related to those share repurchases So it's something that we consistently look at, and we monitor, we throw in our models as it relates to core capital allocations, and, you know, we will continue doing that. so it's something that we consistently look at and we monitor we throw in our models as it relates to core capital allocations and you know we will continue doing that You know, we have, in previous quarters, repurchased shares as the market, you know, provided some opportunities there, and we'll continue to look at that going forward. you know we have in previous quarters repurchased shares as the market you know provided some opportunities there and we'll continue to look at that going forward
Speaker 6: Got it. That, that's helpful. Last one for me. How are you guys looking at agency leverage, given that, you know, we've kind of moved into a tighter spread range? Obviously, there's the GSE backstop, you know, I guess with their loan purchases. Just how are you guys thinking about leverage? Got it. got it That, that's helpful. that that's helpful Last one for me. last one for me How are you guys looking at agency leverage, given that, you know, we've kind of moved into a tighter spread range? how are you guys looking at agency leverage given that you know we've kind of moved into a tighter spread range Obviously, there's the GSE backstop, you know, I guess with their loan purchases. obviously there's the gse backstop you know i guess with their loan purchases Just how are you guys thinking about leverage? just how are you guys thinking about leverage
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in the quarter, leverage declined slightly. Right now, it's about 7.7x. Historically, we have run leverage up into, you know, 8x-8.5x leverage. For now, we are probably going to be trending on the lower end, so closer to the 7.7x, but depending on market conditions, we could go higher. Yeah, so in the quarter, leverage declined slightly. yeah so in the quarter leverage declined slightly Right now, it's about 7.7x. right now it's about 7.7x Historically, we have run leverage up into, you know, 8x-8.5x leverage. historically we have run leverage up into you know 8x-8.5x leverage For now, we are probably going to be trending on the lower end, so closer to the 7.7x, but depending on market conditions, we could go higher. for now we are probably going to be trending on the lower end so closer to the 7.7x but depending on market conditions we could go higher
Speaker 6: Great. Thank you, guys. Great. great Thank you, guys. thank you guys
Speaker 8: Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Our next question will be from the line of Timothy D'Agostino with Equity Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Thank you. thank you And one moment for our next question. and one moment for our next question Our next question will be from the line of Timothy D'Agostino with Equity Research. our next question will be from the line of timothy d'agostino with equity research Your line is open. your line is open Please go ahead. please go ahead
Speaker 9: Yeah, I thank you for taking the question. Good morning. With the comments on, you know, 60%-70% of equity capital being agency and, you know, potentially seeing a decline in BPL bridge in 2026, I was just wondering, the total investment portfolio size currently is at $10.5 billion. Do you have, like, a target size you or a goal you're, you're trying to reach? Or do you have any near-term, like, percentage increases? Just thinking about, you know, what you're striving for in terms of a total portfolio size, maybe at the end of 2026 or at the end of 2027. Thank you. Yeah, I thank you for taking the question. yeah i thank you for taking the question Good morning. good morning With the comments on, you know, 60%-70% of equity capital being agency and, you know, potentially seeing a decline in BPL bridge in 2026, I was just wondering, the total investment portfolio size currently is at $10.5 billion. with the comments on you know 60%-70% of equity capital being agency and you know potentially seeing a decline in bpl bridge in 2026 i was just wondering the total investment portfolio size currently is at $10.5 billion Do you have, like, a target size you or a goal you're, you're trying to reach? do you have like a target size you or a goal you're you're trying to reach Or do you have any near-term, like, percentage increases? or do you have any near-term like percentage increases Just thinking about, you know, what you're striving for in terms of a total portfolio size, maybe at the end of 2026 or at the end of 2027. just thinking about you know what you're striving for in terms of a total portfolio size maybe at the end of 2026 or at the end of 2027 Thank you. thank you
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the goal is to maximize, you know, our total return within our portfolio. I mean, that's the core. That's where we start with looking at capital allocation. So in doing so, you know, when the market has different moves and whether it's on credit or an agency, we will look to change our capital allocation relative to those two different asset classes. Yeah. yeah So the goal is to maximize, you know, our total return within our portfolio. so the goal is to maximize you know our total return within our portfolio I mean, that's the core. i mean that's the core That's where we start with looking at capital allocation. that's where we start with looking at capital allocation So in doing so, you know, when the market has different moves and whether it's on credit or an agency, we will look to change our capital allocation relative to those two different asset classes. so in doing so you know when the market has different moves and whether it's on credit or an agency we will look to change our capital allocation relative to those two different asset classes So there is not a target that we, you know, are focused on reaching as a sense of just reaching a target versus maximizing, you know, our recurring earnings that we have in our portfolio. The comments that Nick made earlier on, you know, the targets around 60% is based on what we see the market giving us today and the different roll-offs of non-core strategies we have in our balance sheet. So, yeah, we, we don't, we don't have a, you know, a capital allocation model that focuses on either investment portfolio size or a certain percent that we need to be in either strategy. It's really where we see the best risk-adjusted returns in the market and how to maximize, you know, our earnings potential. So there is not a target that we, you know, are focused on reaching as a sense of just reaching a target versus maximizing, you know, our recurring earnings that we have in our portfolio. so there is not a target that we you know are focused on reaching as a sense of just reaching a target versus maximizing you know our recurring earnings that we have in our portfolio The comments that Nick made earlier on, you know, the targets around 60% is based on what we see the market giving us today and the different roll-offs of non-core strategies we have in our balance sheet. the comments that nick made earlier on you know the targets around 60% is based on what we see the market giving us today and the different roll-offs of non-core strategies we have in our balance sheet So, yeah, we, we don't, we don't have a, you know, a capital allocation model that focuses on either investment portfolio size or a certain percent that we need to be in either strategy. so yeah we we don't we don't have a you know a capital allocation model that focuses on either investment portfolio size or a certain percent that we need to be in either strategy It's really where we see the best risk-adjusted returns in the market and how to maximize, you know, our earnings potential. it's really where we see the best risk-adjusted returns in the market and how to maximize you know our earnings potential
Speaker 9: Okay, great. Thank you so much. And then just as a second question, regarding available cash, you know, you've probably averaged maybe around, like, $170 million over the trailing five quarters, and obviously, at the year-end, you have $206 million available cash. I guess, could you just provide maybe an overview of how you plan to allocate that cash, whether you wanna continue to hold the stockpile, if you're just seeing kind of rotation capital? I guess just any sort of color on the available cash at year-end would be great, and how you plan to use it. Thank you. Okay, great. okay great Thank you so much. thank you so much And then just as a second question, regarding available cash, you know, you've probably averaged maybe around, like, $170 million over the trailing five quarters, and obviously, at the year-end, you have $206 million available cash. and then just as a second question regarding available cash you know you've probably averaged maybe around like $170 million over the trailing five quarters and obviously at the year-end you have $206 million available cash I guess, could you just provide maybe an overview of how you plan to allocate that cash, whether you wanna continue to hold the stockpile, if you're just seeing kind of rotation capital? i guess could you just provide maybe an overview of how you plan to allocate that cash whether you wanna continue to hold the stockpile if you're just seeing kind of rotation capital I guess just any sort of color on the available cash at year-end would be great, and how you plan to use it. i guess just any sort of color on the available cash at year-end would be great and how you plan to use it Thank you. thank you
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, we, as the agency strategy and spreads tightened into year-end, you know, we -- it did take away some of our expectations of what we could grow our portfolio in the beginning of that quarter. So we ended up the quarter with a little bit more cash than we would have expected, which is partially the reason, or the reason why we ended up maturing our 5.75 note due April 2026. And we just saw an opportunity there, given the cash allocation that we had, and the fact that there was a near-term maturity coming up and utilize the capital in that way. But I think overall, you know, the opportunity for us is, you know, continued deployment in the two areas. Yeah. yeah You know, we, as the agency strategy and spreads tightened into year-end, you know, we -- it did take away some of our expectations of what we could grow our portfolio in the beginning of that quarter. you know we as the agency strategy and spreads tightened into year-end you know we -- it did take away some of our expectations of what we could grow our portfolio in the beginning of that quarter So we ended up the quarter with a little bit more cash than we would have expected, which is partially the reason, or the reason why we ended up maturing our 5.75 note due April 2026. so we ended up the quarter with a little bit more cash than we would have expected which is partially the reason or the reason why we ended up maturing our 5.75 note due april 2026 And we just saw an opportunity there, given the cash allocation that we had, and the fact that there was a near-term maturity coming up and utilize the capital in that way. and we just saw an opportunity there given the cash allocation that we had and the fact that there was a near-term maturity coming up and utilize the capital in that way But I think overall, you know, the opportunity for us is, you know, continued deployment in the two areas. but i think overall you know the opportunity for us is you know continued deployment in the two areas We talked about a capital-light model on the Constructive side and then looking for opportunities within Agency. So, you know, to the extent that the, you know, the market, you know, winds down on the Agency side, we expect to have further deployment there, and looking for more opportunistic trades in the market as a whole, versus, you know, kind of a scheduled deployment. We talked about a capital-light model on the Constructive side and then looking for opportunities within Agency. we talked about a capital-light model on the constructive side and then looking for opportunities within agency So, you know, to the extent that the, you know, the market, you know, winds down on the Agency side, we expect to have further deployment there, and looking for more opportunistic trades in the market as a whole, versus, you know, kind of a scheduled deployment. so you know to the extent that the you know the market you know winds down on the agency side we expect to have further deployment there and looking for more opportunistic trades in the market as a whole versus you know kind of a scheduled deployment
Speaker 9: Okay, got it. Thank you for taking the questions today. Okay, got it. okay got it Thank you for taking the questions today. thank you for taking the questions today
Speaker 8: Thank you, and one moment for our next question. I am showing no further questions at this time, and I would now like to hand the conference back over to Jason Serrano for closing remarks. Thank you, and one moment for our next question. thank you and one moment for our next question I am showing no further questions at this time, and I would now like to hand the conference back over to Jason Serrano for closing remarks. i am showing no further questions at this time and i would now like to hand the conference back over to jason serrano for closing remarks
Speaker 2: Yes, we appreciate your continued support and look forward to discussing our first quarter results in April. Have a great day. Yes, we appreciate your continued support and look forward to discussing our first quarter results in April. yes we appreciate your continued support and look forward to discussing our first quarter results in april Have a great day. have a great day
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